Is It Just Me? - #93: Jenna on the Panel

Episode Date: December 6, 2021

It's a big week, idiots!In this episode:Dot Wiggins investigates… Is Lay-by still a thing? (06:31)Churi’s in trouble with the law (13:45)The GAY edition of Tinder Fairytales & Fizzers (18:56)Another mispronunciation!!! (28:09)An ‘Is It Just YOU?’ from a dog listener (31:08)Kate Langbroek joins us! (35:12)Our “Secret Segment” ADDebrief (1:09:00)Follow us @coupleofmitchesSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Okay, we good to go? Yeah. Right. Oh, by the way, everyone, welcome to the podcast. Hi, hi, hi. Jenna is panelling the show today. Mitch and her have swapped seats. Yeah, this is in preparation for Jenna's side show.

Mitch is a bit too loud. Bring him down a bit. So she's pushing all the buttons. Yeah, it's all in preparation for the Jenna side show. Why is it going down? Because you're pulling your... Is you're pulling the one that says Mitch? Yeah.

That's you. You're in Mitch's seat. Because you're in Mitch's seat. So you're putting your own mic down. What? Am I? What? There? There? That's you. Because you're in Mitch's seat. You're putting your own mic down. What? Am I? That's me. Okay, yeah.

That sounds good. We're about even now. Bear with us for this show, everyone. So Jenna's never pushed the buttons in the radio studio ever, but she's going to be filling in for us over the Christmas break. So there'll still be weekly podcasts dropping in your feed, but they'll be hosted by Jenna. And this is training.

So whenever you're ready, hit the opener if you could. Without further ado, here's the show. Okay. I'm going now. People do some weird shit. Jenna! Fuck, that ruined our ears. Put it down a bit.

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I'm not even having a good time. This is Is It Just Me? You're hosted by a couple of Mitches. What about me? Don't forget Jenna. Who? Now, here's Mitch, Julie and Mitchell. Oh, 93 eggs and brie.

Hello, everyone. Welcome. Welcome, welcome. Can I pick a phone with you right now, Mitchell? Oh, straight away, yeah. Jenna, you might have to rewind on that opener because I've noticed in recent weeks you keep talking over my name. What do you mean? It's like, now, here's Mitch, Julie and Mitchell. Ah, hello, everyone. keep talking over my name. What do you mean? It's like, now here's Mitch Turi and Mitchell.

Ah, hello, everyone. Let him say my name. That's classic radio. No, it's not. Yes, you do. You never used to drown out my name. You're just jealous. Ever since the live shows were announced, I've decided that I'm blocking him out.

Jenna, turn it down. You've got the opener a bit too loud. Turn it down. Oh, yeah. You were drowning us out. No, it's very loud in our ears. That's better. There we are.

Much nicer. Okay, so, yeah, you need out. No, you're very loud in our ears. That's better. There we are. Much nicer. Yeah, you need to stop talking over my name. It's unintentional. I didn't mean to. Sure. I would never. Apologies. Well, anyway, Jenna is panelling the show today.

This will be fun. It should be pretty easy because we've got Kate Langbrook coming on, but we already spoke to her the other day, so really you just have to press play on the interview. I don't think that'll be too much of a challenge. I'm very excited for Caitlin Brooke. We love her. That was a hoot, I've got to say. She's got a new book out, Ciao Bella, and she tells us all about living in Italy for two years. Yeah, Ciao Bella

8 Take Italy? Six. Six. Six. Six of them, yeah. Righto, Matt Doran. No, no, you read the book, not me. So you did the heavy listening. But we love Kate. She's a superstar. She's beautiful. Also, Tinder Fairy Tales and Fizzes is back. And, God, there's a lot of sound effects on that one.

Jenna might struggle with that. Can you do a fairy tale now? Just give us a fairy tale. It should say Tinder Fairy Tale. You'll see it. It's right there. In plain sight. Tinder Fairy Tale. It's right there. Shut up! I'm getting it. Are you gaslighting her? No. That's not it.

That's not what we do. Okay, well, look, maybe Mitch can just panel you. No, sorry. Maybe when Tinder comes around, because like, let's bear in mind, this is all thanks to Tinder. They are the sponsor of that segment, so we can't have Jenna fucking with the sound. Oh, wait, I found it.

No, that's the opener, Jenna. I just want the fancy one. Doesn't matter. Is that okay if we let you do that? Yeah, I'll do it. I'll do it. I think that's a great idea. We also have some Tinder Gold memberships coming up. All thanks to Tinder.

It's going to be fun. It's the last Fairy Tales and Fizzes. So that later on in the show. Exactly right. We spoke to John Laws the other day, by the way. We did. We did. And we're holding that for next week, which will be our final episode of 2021.

Episode 94, the last show of the year. That'll be a big one next week. John Laws. Yeah. I hated it. Mitchell loved it. And we will the last show of the year. That'll be a big one next week. John Laws. Yeah. I hated it. Mitch loved it. And we will tell you more when it happens, but just keep that in mind when you're prepared to listen to it, because I didn't enjoy it.

Mitch walked away saying, that was a disaster. And I said, I nailed that. That was everything I wanted and more. Yeah. Mitch was the iceberg. I was the Titanic. I'm so excited for this. What was John?

The lifeboats? I'm not following. Now, hold on. I'm off. This position is completely different to what I've done for two years. I've never had a cough mute button. Let me try it. Ready? So we've got John Laws.

I love it! This seat is an odd position because I look to my left and there's you and I look to my right and there's Jenna, but in that seat, Jenna, you're sort of facing everyone. I know. I have to, like, physically use calories to burn, to turn my body to speak to you.

Why do you think I swapped seats with Jenna? I used to sit there. For, like, two years I sat there. You did sit here. Yeah. It's a whole new perspective. You know when you start sleeping on the other side of bed, you're like, I'm going to change things up.

Do you and Hayden do that? We did in the new house, yeah. And we hated it. We did it for one night, then we moved back. Really? Yeah. Did you flip the mattress? Yes, we flipped the mattress.

There's just something about that side that just works better, huh? Yep. And also, I'm closer to the door. And, you know, in case there's a murderer, I think I'm the one that would fight. Right. How do you figure that? No, I've got the guts. He'd be terrified.

Well, yes, he would. But I don't think that you would be any less terrified. No, I know. Maybe I'm making assumptions. I like to think that, I mean, it hasn't happened, but I don't think that you would be any less terrified. No, I know. Maybe I'm making assumptions. I like to think that, I mean, it hasn't happened, but I like to think that if I were in a fight or flight, I would belt the absolute fuck out of someone. Yeah. I've learned a thing or two from watching SVU.

You've got to scratch them as much as possible so you collect their DNA under your nails. Easy. That's brilliant. Well, in case they find your buddy, then there's evidence under their nails. Well, no. If you go to the cops and say, someone just mugged me and beat the shit out of me, tried to, you know, attack me. If you've got their DNA under your nails and boom, they track him down.

Also, SVU, if it's taught me anything, it's always the celebrity. Like it's always the star that's in that's either done the murdering or knows who did it. Yeah, exactly. That's why they get him there. Yeah, exactly. They're not going to get them there to be the auntie of the killer. Like, no. Cate Blanchett murdered the man.

Anyway, welcome to Is It Just Me, episode 93. How exciting, getting close to 100. If it's your first time listening, we start the show the same way every week, with two idjams to Is It Just Me. Something we've noticed, something we hate and appreciate. Is it or appreciate? And appreciate. Or appreciate, yeah.

Because I'm thrown by this side of the desk. Clearly. Mitch doesn't know mine. I don't know Mitch's. There we go. Yeah, who wants to go first? Yeah, you can go first. Go for it.

All right, Jenna, have you got the sound effect ready? Yeah, I have. That's if we get to it. Wait, okay, I'm getting it. Is it just me or? Do you reckon lay-by isn't a thing anymore? I remember it, but there used to be a dedicated lay-by at my local Kmart. Yeah, there did.

There used to be a whole lay-by section. I Kmart. Yeah, there did. There used to be a whole lay-by section. I don't think I've ever lay-by'd anything, but remember how you used to be able to just pay it off as you like? They wouldn't give it to you while it was on lay-by until it was fully paid off. But you could just pay little bits as you like. You could give them $1 one week and then $300 the next week. It was up to you how much you pay in increments. But after pay has ruined that.

Oh, but I agree. But I loved lay-by because it was so real. You would bring the item to them and they'd fucking bubble wrap it before your eyes and put it on a shelf. They would. You have to physically hand it over and be like, I'll be back for you. I'll be back for you.

That's the motivator to save up for it. Amen. Have you ever after paid anything? Because I feel like that's more dangerous. They give you the thing first and then expect you to pay it off gradually. No, I've never afterpaid. I'm too scared of it. Yeah, me too.

I couldn't do it. Also, it affects your credit score in the long run. Yeah. Really? Because the bank can have access to all the things that you have got loans for, and they're classed as microloans. And they're like, well, how can we trust you with a home loan if you can't even pay off your Lululemon tights, you dumb bitch?

It's true. So in a way, lay-by is actually a safer method. But I feel that it might have – I don't even reckon it's a thing anymore. Like there's no lay-by desk, that's for sure. But I don't reckon it's even a thing. No, it wouldn't be. I just had an idea, but I don't know. I'm second-guessing it because it would involve Jenna having to use the phone.

Then do it. Back it. What do you want to do? Jenna, we're throwing you in the deep end. So I think Dot Wiggins, your 90-year-old alter ego, Michelle the old lady, I think she should make a call to someone and just be like, can I lay by something? See if it's even a thing anymore. Yeah, okay.

I back it. Who should she call? Well, when you think lay by, I usually think Big W, to be honest. That's who I associate with lay by for some reason. Is that the sort of vibe we're going for? Yeah, I'm thinking a Big W target Kmartby, I usually think Big W, to be honest. That's who I associate with lay-by for some reason. Is that the sort of vibe we're going for? Yeah, I'm thinking a Big W target came up. So let's do Big W. Okay.

You get Big W, I'll get Dot. Dot! Oh, God. Dot. Here we go again. Yes, over here. The mousy brown girl, she's changed seats. Jenna, what are you doing?

What? You're not off Google, Judy. It's just because you're minding the dim. Get the number and dial it, dumbass. Stupid slut. Stip-dup. Sorry. I found it.

Hello, YouTube. Hi, Dot. You did so well on Kylie. I've got it, Jenna. I've got the number. You did so well on Kylie and Jackie. Thank you. Thanks, Dot.

Here, it's on my phone. Just take that. Yep. I don't know why I'm like, oh, you can't read out Big W's number. It's available to the public. I just found it. All right. So you're going to have to tell her how to dial.

Yeah. Just put me here. Dot, I'm just going to take the microphone. I forgot you were Dot. No, Dot is here. It's touchscreen. So hit dial. Dial.

And then there's like a dial box has come up, a keypad. Yes. So dial the number. Okay. Like a normal phone. And now are you sure that that phone is turned on? Oh, yeah. Like if she gets called, are we even going to hear it?

Great point. So Jenna, see there's two hybrids on the far left of the desk. Yes. Hybrid one is the first phone line. So on. On. There you go. And fade it up.

Probably about three quarters of the way. Dot, you're calling Big W and you're going to ask if you can put something on lay-by. It's up to you what that something is, but I just want to know if lay-by is still an option. Big double who? Turn my mic off, Jenna. Good evening. Thank you for calling Big W. Hello, Dot Wiggins here.

I'm just calling in regards to a question I have. I'm wondering if you could help me? Pardon? Oh, I'm wondering, there's a product that I'm interested in purchasing, but I'd love to put it on Layby, and I'm just wondering if that's still a service that is offered within the store. What service? Layby.

L-A-Y-B-Y. I can't spell. Layby is offered. Layby. Oh, fantastic. And I'm wondering if you have a product in stock for me, if you'd be able to search the database? Well, what are the goods?

I'll have to put you through to someone else. That's fine. They're called Nancy Gans. What is it, a swimwear? Shapewear. Shapewear for the bodice. Shapewear. All right, just one moment.

All right, thank you. Very loud. She was very rude to Doc. I agree. You're not one of them. No, I want to talk to Labour. All right, sorry. Love this song.

I first married Warren to this song. I can't see you loving nobody like him but all my life. He used to sing Loving nobody like him, but all my life. He's just saying dot, dot, dot, dot, dot. He perished 20 years ago. There we go. Turn me off the channel. How can I help you?

Big W? Yes, how can I help you? Hello, darling. I'm after Nancy Gantz shapewear for the bodice. Yes. What is the biggest size you have, dear? Two, please. She made a size two.

Okay, we have all different types. We have the long ones, the short ones, the big ones. Great, great, great, great, great. Could you put me through to the lay-by team? Yeah, sure. Thank you. What are you doing? I want to see how lay-by works. Hello, lay-by, can I help you? Hello, darling, how are you?

Good, thank you. I need to know, how does lay-bys work? Oh, lay-by, you can do it in the store also or you can do it online also. You could do digital lay-bys? Digital lay-by. You can do digital lay-by.

My goodness. And you keep it for 10 weeks. Then it's just fortnightly you need to come and pay. God, it's fortnightly.

And is it popular? Lots of people do it? Yeah, yeah. They do. A lot of people do lay-by. You can do even...

Sorry, tunnel. You pay for it and you can come and pick it up also. Yeah. Sorry, tunnel. Sorry, the tunnel. Yeah, sorry, tunnel. I'm going through a tunnel in the car. Sorry, tunnel. All right. Sorry, tunnel.

Did you hang up, Jenna? Fuck! Yeah, we forgot to tell Jenna how to hang up. That was kind of important. Especially when I'm sorry-tunneling someone. Well, there you go. Lay-by is still an option and they've adapted. You can do it online.

But it sounded like you had to pay it fortnightly. I don't feel that that used to be the case. Yeah. You had to come in and pay it physically. I think you could have kept an item on lay-by for 30 years if you wanted to. Yeah. Back in the day. Oh, that's what we should have asked.

Next time. Yeah, next time. What's the longest thing you've had on lay-by? Yeah. My mum would have some stories. My God. We're not calling back. All right. See you, asked. Next time. Yeah, next time. What's the longest thing you've had on lay-by? Yeah, my mum would have some stories. My God. We're not calling back. All right, see you, Dot.

All right, now, Jenna, before we get into Mitch's Is It Just Me, you need to know that we have a sound effect that plays at the end and there's no particular time when you need to play this. It's just kind of when you feel it in your guts that the conversation has come to a full stop, you know? Okay. And so it's over there. Okay.

So just do it a quick test now. There you go. Sounds good. Sounds good. You can stop it now. You can stop it now. So it's up to you when you play that, when you feel like it's come to a natural end. Yeah.

Okay? Okay. Okay, cool. All right. I'm ready for my gym. All right. You can hit the awe sound effect now. Cover. Cool. All right. I'm ready for my agent. All right. You can hit the awe sound effect now. Is it just me?

Aww. Is anyone else worried about the sizes of letterboxes? What do you mean? They're not getting bigger. No, they're not. They're getting bloody smaller. They're getting smaller, if anything. And the demand for packages and deliveries is only getting higher.

We need to redesign the letterbox. I feel that I should get a ding-dong on the doorbell when I get something in the letterbox. Yes. As a courtesy. Because most things aren't big enough to fit in there, hence they drop it off as a parcel. Yes. But how am I supposed to know to check that bastard? I forget I have a letterbox half the time.

I agree, especially in a high-rise apartment. They're all next to each other. Yeah. Like the bloody boxers in High Five with Jub Jub fingering himself in one. I don't know what he's doing. But I just think the other day, it's been raining here in Sydney for ages, and I got a speeding fine in the mail. Another one?

Another one. How many points? I've only got three left. Oh, fuck. Mitchell. I know. And we're coming into double demerit season. We are.

You've got to be careful, darling. I know. I just disassociate. I leave here at midnight, and I just get all my speeding fines between 12 and 1am because I'm just driving home exhausted. Does your car give you the option, even though it's an automatic, to switch gears? Yes, but I don't know how to do it. Oh, because if you bump it down to third, you just naturally go slower.

But then wouldn't you burn? I don't know how it works. No, no, no. Only if you're going downhill. I'm only talking about downhill because that's where they get you. They get you with the hills. What do you mean? And a speed camera at the bottom.

You just naturally speed up and end up speeding. I knew I should have got a country boy to help me with this. What do you mean going downhill? As in not uphill? No, I know what that means. With the gearbox. So if you're going downhill and you're on cruise control, your car will naturally speed up.

So even if you're doing the speed limit, by the time you start going downhill, it will speed up and you get pinged for speeding. But if you bump your gear down maybe to fourth or third instead of fifth, then the car, the revs will be up so it naturally stays slower. Oh, my God. Well, there you go. You learn something new every day. I do it every day on the way to this bloody studio because same thing,

that freaking new tunnel in Sydney. What's it called? West Connect? Oh, too many. Oh, dear. Oh, I wasn new tunnel in Sydney. What's it called? West Connect? Oh, too many. Oh, dear. Oh, I wasn't done, Jenna. Sorry. A bit too early there.

Sorry. I knew we'd gotten to the crux of the point. The conclusion. Oh, sorry. Anyway, what letterbox are you got? No, do you have, because you're in a house, what sort of letterbox do you have? We have a standard letterbox built into a concrete pylon,

but it's so narrow that letters don't even fit in. So my point was the speeding fine got so wet by the rain, it disintegrated, and I didn't get the speeding fine. So then I get this bloody knock on the door. Not the knock on the door, I get a call going, you need to start paying your fines. Horrendous. I got a notice in my letterbox that I'd been parking

in an illegal spot out the front of our house, and the police knocked up to my house the other morning. I was asleep, and then we get a... Hayden off his zoom call you know and hayden and i think it's probably this policeman in uniform yes hayden would have shat himself oh no no like distance himself i don't even know mitchell no and he went oh you're not in trouble but you've parked your car in an illegal spot a few days in a row and the tradies can't access because I'm blocking the corner. Big trucks can't fit.

You need to move your car immediately. Oh, yeah. Big fuck off truck coming around the corner will absolutely sideswipe you. Sure, I could finish the story. I'm done if you want. Is it just me? No, I'll just finish the story then. Yeah.

And I walk out and all the tradies are there and it's very awkward Hayden can't fucking drive so I have to do it of course in my Christmas Mickey pyjamas oh my god and I go sorry boys don't worry mate we got you out of a fine

and the police are there watching me and then I move my car do you reckon they called the police there especially for that yeah 100% they could have just come and said sorry can you do us a favour as the tradies Police are there watching me. And then I move my car. Do you reckon they called the police there especially for that? Yeah, 100%. Because the police can scan. They could have just come and said, sorry, can you do us a favour as the tradies? No, they don't know where I live. They've got no idea.

Oh, my God. That police officer had to jump through some hoops. Yeah, literally. They had to scan my ID. Anyway. Don't you check the signs to say illegal or not? Yes. To park at a certain spot?

I was over like by probably half a metre. Oh, that's not worth the fuss. No, I agree. Anyway. You can go now if you want dinner. Okay. I'm done. Nope.

There we go. Is it just me? You can follow the show online. Just search Couple of Mitches. If you don't, you're a dickhead. Alright, it's time for the finale of Tinder fairy tales and fizzes. Before we get into it, you guys are going to have to swap back. I can't have this messed up.

I think that's a good idea. We're making millions of dollars off this Tinder deal. Okay. Oh, a water bottle. You come over. There we go. Back. You did quite well though, Jenna, can I just say, for someone who's never touched a radio panel in their life.

Thank you. No, you did panel Orson Welles' War of the World. Oh, I forgot about that. I used to have to go to bloody night classes at the radio school in Sydney for like a year learning that thing. Jenna kind of took to it like a duck to water. She's one of those types actually. She is.

I actually want to do it more. And I still am learning. Yeah, you still haven't quite nailed it. We'll let you go back on the panel after Tinder, Jenna, because I just want to get this bit flawless. Smooth. With Mitch over there. God knows what will happen.

No, I'm fine. I'm sorry. Hold on. Okay, let's get into it. Ready? Is It Just Me presents Tinder Fairy Tales and Fizzles. Yeah, the final instalment in Tinder fairy tale and fizzes happening right now.

We've had some good entrants over the last couple of weeks. We have. We've heard all about people's shit dates. Let's face it, we've all had bad dates. Yeah. And then we've heard all about the fairy tales, people who've met on Tinder and have lived happily ever after. A.K.A. Hayden and I.

Yes, exactly. You guys are a Tinder fairy tale, absolutely. But first up, we're going to hear from Daniel. Hi, Daniel. What's your fizzer, darling? Well, I was on a date. It was going pretty well until we went to a bar up the back of the Opera House. Fancy, by the way. I know. State to the Opera House. La-di-da. Very bougie, which is where all the trouble started. We, you know, got a little bit tipsy, had a couple margaritas.

And then on the way out, I was saying to the guy I was with, I was like, ah, man, coming to the opera house for a date, bougie as hell. And some girl heard me who was coming up the stairs and was like, eh, bougie as hell. And he was like, did you hear that? She was making fun of you behind your back. What a coward. At the Opera House. Oh, damn.

And, you know, when I'm tipsy, normally I'm just like a dancer and I like going on adventures. But for some reason that night it just, Campbelltown came out of me and I was like, listen here, you don't know me. Oh, no. You don't know my story. And we had a little fight on the stairs. Oh, my God.

The margaritas made you a bit aggro, did they? It did. It did. I was like, yeah, this is special. Let me have this. Oh, no. What did the date say? How did he react?

Look, he was a little embarrassed. It's safe to say that was the last one we had. Right. Okay. That's fine. But it is a fizzer. That's what it is. That's defined as a Tinder fizzer. Yep. That's fine. But it is a fizzer. That's what it is. That's defined as a Tinder fizzer.

That's where I've gone wrong. That's why I'm single, clearly. I just keep arcing up at people on the date. Do people not like that? Weird. Oh, and the opera house. It was all geared to be a good date, too. We're going to hook you up with Tinder gold, okay, Daniel?

So you'll be able to find a man. Congratulations, buddy. Tinder gold is really good. It lets you see who has already liked you before you decide to match with them. You can also rewind if you say no to anyone and change your mind. Plus, you'll get all of Tinder's member-only services like

Passport, Unlimited Likes, Super Likes, Boosting. It's the best. We've got one for you. Thank you. Enjoy. Right, now, apparently it's the gay edition of Tinder Fairy Tales and Fizzes today. Corey's here. He wants to tell us about his fairy tale. Rub it in. Hello, Corey. Hi, Corey. Hello, now, apparently it's the gay edition of Tinder Fairy Tales and Fizzers today. Corey's here. He wants to tell us about his fairy tale. We'll rub it in. Hello, Corey.

Hi, Corey. Hi. Hello, lovelies. How are you? Yeah, we're good. We're excited. We're looking forward to a fairy tale. We've had two fizzers in a row, so hit us with your story.

Okay, amazing. So, before I met my partner, now, I had a lot of duds before him. There were a couple that just were all for no good. How many is a couple? Because I need to know how many duds I need to get through before I find the one. So I had two and they both cheated. So I was like, you know what, this is just no good for me. It's not a vibe.

It's not something I really envisioned for myself anyway. All right. So you've had your fizzes, but then we get to this point. I've had, and trust me, I've had a lot of fizzes. It's no good. So when we started talking, I didn't really have a lot of trust in people. I was very cautious. I was very like, you know what?

I'm not going to get my hopes up because I'm just terrified that it's just going to turn out the same way. Yeah, you've been burnt. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So we just started talking here and there, and it wasn't really, it was nice to talk to him, but I wasn't, like, getting my hopes up. So it was just sort of nothing at the moment. Do you remember what caught your eye on his Tinder profile?

What was it that stood out? Well, he just was funny. Like he just had really random shit on his, like he would be like, oh, I make really good mac and cheese. And I'm like, you know what? I'm a simple girl. I don't do extravagant things. So we ended up like talking for a little bit.

We talked for about two weeks before we ended up meeting up. And what was that chat like during that two weeks? It was just really not like he was just really random and he would always ask me like really stupid questions. Like I remember he asked me like, oh, let's rank your Lady Gaga albums. And I'm like. That's not stupid. That's intellectual conversation.

Yeah. I was like, to me, obviously the fame is like the best one. I can't really rank anything else above that because the first one's the best one. So we had decided, so he's a Shire boy. Hey, a boy to my heart. Yeah. So with the Shire boys, they, whenever they go over the bridge, it's like, it's Narnia. Like it's just. Thank you, Corey. Thank you, Corey. So with the Shire boys, whenever they go over the bridge, it's like it's Narnia. Like it's just a –

Thank you, Corey. Thank you, Corey. Appreciate the time. Anyway, so when we were organising to go out, we said let's go meet at George Street Cinemas. We'll go to the movies and – So interesting choice the first day, a movie. Like you don't really talk to each other, right?

Did you have dinner beforehand or anything? We kept talking through the movie, but we got kicked out. Oh, my God. Okay. Well, that's good in a way. Yeah, yeah. So then we left. We went to Darling Harbour, had some ice cream.

Cute. And then we sat at the Opera House, and we talked until, like, maybe 12.30 in the morning. And it got to the point where we're like, it's a weeknight. I need to go home to go to work tomorrow. Oh, that's a good feeling, though, when you're like, oh, I'm out late. I know I'm going to be tired tomorrow, but I'm enjoying this so much. You didn't see a gay man fighting with a white woman, did you, by any chance?

No, I'm sorry. You won't get that. Yeah, yeah, okay. Now that's another story for another time. Right. Anyway, so we ended up leaving because it was getting really late. And it was just the point where it was just a really nice conversation. Like, you just forget that time is a thing.

It was just very, just easy. It was easy to talk to. So how long after this, though, Corey, did you realize that he was the one? Oh, straight away. Like, I remember getting on the, so we had to catch the train back to Central to go back on our separate platforms. Yeah. And I was sitting on the train going, I don't know how to tell this guy I like him.

I don't know what to do to show that I like him. So I was going, do I hug him? Should I try and kiss him? I don't know what to tell this guy I like him. I don't know what to do to show that I like him. So I was going, do I hug him? Should I try and kiss him? I don't know what to do. At Central Station, every man and his dog is there. I'd get bashed, darling. I was like, oh, Jesus. You would.

Anyway, so I was on the train and I got really quiet and I don't shut up. So I keep talking. So I was sitting there really quiet going, I don't know how to approach this because he's about to leave. And I just like jumped in and just gave him a kiss. Wow. How bold of you. That was the best decision I ever made.

Oh, I love that. A true Tinder fairy tale, Corey. Okay, so after this first date, which obviously went very well, how long was it before you officially became a couple? Tell us about that moment. So it was probably about two weeks after. So we went on our second date probably about two days after. I ended up meeting his mum, who she, like, loves the show, by the way.

She's obsessed with you guys. Oh, hello. Give her a shout out. Hi, Janice. Oh, hi, Janice. We love you. Yeah, so we, yeah, probably about two or three weeks afterwards, we ended up, we were like, obviously it's a bit of an X-rated story,

but we were like, he's like, I'm not going any further until, like, we're together. I was like, you know what? Just ask the question. And he's like, you ask the question. I'm like, what question is it? And we kept going back and forth because I'm like, I'm not asking. You ask me.

Anyway, I ended up asking and we've been together now for like five years oh that is so sweet that he didn't want to go any further until you were official that's some old-fashioned romance right there yeah um and so where are you at now are you gonna also demand that he be the one to propose to you when the day comes that's the issue i want to be proposed to because i want to be a princess and he's like well i want to be proposed to and i'm like well we're in a fucking road And he's like, well, I want to be proposed to. And I'm like, well, we're in a fucking roadway here. We can't go anywhere with this because I'm not doing it.

Call him right now and propose on the podcast. I can't think of anything more romantic, just quietly. Why are you laughing? Anyway, so, yeah. And it's funny. Like, one of my good friends, him and his partner have been together for about two years. And they're talking about getting married as well. But they're both like, oh, we're going to try and do a proposal at the same time.

Oh, that's what we want. Yes. But I'm like, where's the spontaneity of it? Like, oh my God, like, you know, this is a wild thing. I don't know.

I want to be proposed to, but it's not happening anytime soon, I don't think. No, it's just that, you know, you'd hope that you both, if you're going to Paris, like, for God's sake,

you bring a ring. You know what I mean? Oh, exactly. Yeah. Bring the flowers, bring the condoms, bring everything. Condoms? I don't know what you're going to Paris, for God's sake, you bring a ring. You know what I mean? Oh, exactly. Yeah, bring the flowers, bring the condoms, bring everything. Condoms? I don't know what you're worried about. It's been a while since I bought a pack.

All right, Corey, send love. What's your partner's name? Send some big love. Sam. Sam and Corey. Congratulations, lovebirds. The team of love stories. Yes, Ingenious.

Don't throw the mum in there, you creep. No, they love their mums. Corey said they're their best friends. Yeah, but she's not part of the fairy tale equation. She could do the proposing. She's not part of the story as anything else. Yeah. Fairy godmother.

All right. Thanks, Corey. We love you, Corey. Thanks, guys. Thanks, Corey. What a nice one to end on. That was a big one. He got three fairy tale dings.

He did, actually. Is that a record? Yeah, that's the biggest. Have you noticed that every time we've done this, this is the third fairy tale in Fizz's, the one that has the fairy tale always just has a little pep in their step. You can hear it from their voice. Yes.

He sounds like he's getting regular sex. You can hear it in his voice. Is that why I sound like I'm falling asleep on this show half the time? We have more Tinder Gold memberships to go on thanks to Tinder. So if you want to hit us up, slide into our DMs and we'll look after you. Also, did you notice that he had a mispronunciation in that call, Corey? Oh, towards the end. Yeah, what was it?

I did. I did. So he said spontaneity. Oh, he did. Did you notice that too? I did, yeah. Oh, it's been a while since you've had a good mispronunciation. No.

Oh, Corey, you've served up a doozy. Spontaneity. Yep. He was good. You know what? He kind of reminded me. I used to have this horse trainer named Corey. He just reminded me of that.

And I missed Tobin. I've told you about Tobin the horse. He had the funniest night. Mitch, are you keen to order dinner? Because I can't be fucked cooking when I get home, but I forgot my wallet. Can you pie? Yeah, I can.

I can. I was talking to Harrison, my godson. He's so excited for Christmas because we're like a month away. His favourite part about Christmas is not the presents, not the reindeer. It's Santa and his sly. Oh, no. Oh, what's happened?

Jenna, before you came in, Mitch, Jenna was late today and she brought a portable DVD player. Yeah. I wouldn't believe it. She was watching Fifty Shades of Grey. Weird film. Weird film. You know what my favourite film is?

What? I don't even know if it's a film or a book, but I just wanted to say Eat Pry Love. I wrote a really good SI on that film in high school. I did. I did. It was a long one. Oh.

No, this one's wrong. I can't do this. I was going to say maybe I'm thinking of letting the world know that my preferred pronouns are die them. I shouldn't mock that. You've got to be careful after the gig you booked this week. What? You've just got to be careful with that stuff. Are we announcing it?

What? Oh, Jen and Mitch got booked on Home and a Why. Oh, God, we are in such a weird mood today. Oh, I'm coughing so loud I got spit on the spine. Oh, Jenna, are you all right? Oh, look at me. Oh, God, you've got to go to the dentist. Can you see that decay on her teeth?

God, this fucking whole show is in disarray. We should all go out and treat ourselves to a nice, fat, buff eye. You're always first in the line of a buff eye. Have you seen how much you eye? Okay, we're fucking getting carried away. We're done, we're done. You two should swap back now, by the way, Jenna. You can have the panel back.

Oh, yeah, you're right. Just take your headphones. I don't want to use yours. No, thanks. No, fine. Hurry up. Don't go wandering astray. Get out of my way.

Oh, shit. Spontaneity. Spontaneity. He knew too. Welcome back to my side of the desk, darling. Jeez, it's odd. Jenna sits on a cornice. She does.

There's like a corner in my gut. It's really pointed. Jeez, it's odd. Jenna sits on a cornice. She does. There's like a corner in my gut. It's really pointed. Right, Jenna. Yeah. What are we doing now? The Is It Just You? Yeah. Is there an opener for that?

No, no, no opener, but we do have the audio from the guest, Jenna, and the name. I won't announce it. I do it every week. I organise the Is It Just Yous, which is an Is It Just Me from a listener. If you have one, send us a voice message to couple of Mitch's on Instagram. We will play it. So the Is It Just You is on the button bar as well as the name. So you can announce it, Jenna.

Hang on. Are we really going to trust your naming of the listener? Because you've gotten it wrong twice now. Poor Tess, whose name is actually Holly last week. Now, what happened was, shout out, Holly. We love you and thank you for sending that in. I recorded them all in bulk and didn't save their names. So they all got fake names.

Well, you'll know for next time. That's right. Don't you remember back in the day when you were little, I feel like you would have sent in song requests on the radio. All the time. You know how some people used to send in pictures of the weather to Tim Bailey? Yeah.

And it'd give you a shout out? You get a little thrill out of hearing your name shouted out, so don't fuck it up again. Yeah, or on Cheese TV or Toast TV where you send in art and they let you draw and they hold it up. There you go. That exact thrill is not what we will be robbing our listeners of. So who have we got this week?

Yeah, it's up to you, Jenna. Jenna? Nope. That's fine. Where is it? Is it just you? It should be near the cake grabs-ish, left-hand side of the wall, maybe up to near the top. Okay, yeah.

All right. And the name's at the end of it. Yeah, I assume so. So you've got to let us know who it is. Okay. Today's Is It Just You is David. David, what have you got? Go for it, David.

Hey, Mitches. Love the show. Been thinking about this for the last couple of days and had to send it through. But is it just me or do you feel like you're cheating on Mitch Turi when you listen to Trash Alley? Oh, you don't have to feel like you're cheating on Mitch Turi when you listen to Trash Alley. You don't have to feel like you're cheating on Mitch Turi when you listen to Trash Alley. I've got two podcasts with different co-hosts.

You're not cheating. You're actually just supporting me. Not just you, Dave. I've had many messages. I've had listeners send me selfies of them crying. One message. Going, I can't do it. I can't listen to that podcast.

And I go, do it. Support a friend. Listen. Yeah, it's not like we're taking anything away from you by having a different podcast. If I asked you to do a separate podcast, you'd be like, fuck no. Yeah, but also no one's like not watching my other projects that you're not involved in because you're not there.

It must just be because there's Matt and it's alright hey. Similar energies. People think it's a similar vibe show. Right, but if I did a one woman show they wouldn't feel like they were cheating on me. Wouldn't give a flying fuck. If I launched a podcast with Katrina Roundtree no one would feel jealous. Right, okay. So shut up David.

Don't bring that bullshit energy in my way. You're allowed to feel fondly of me. You don't have to do it after of me. Oh, we're done. You don't have to do it after every segment. No, we've done that bit, Jenna. It's all good. We've done it.

Thank you, David. If you want to get it, is it just you on the air? Hit us up on Instagram. Slide into the DM. Send us a voice message. Yes, that's it. That's correct. And don't forget, new episodes of Trash Alley, Wednesday, 7am, only on Spotify.

Spotify, yeah. Spotify, yeah. Dying medium. All right, well. Coming from a radio announcer. Jenna, what is that? Jenna, stop going rogue. Dying medium. All right. Well, coming from a radio announcer. Jenna, what is that? Jenna, stop going rogue.

You've got to focus now. Okay, we've got the Kate Langbrook interview now. Oh, that's Kate's car. She just pulled up. Jenna, you've gotten carried away. Okay, sorry. Focus. Yep, I'm in it. Mitch and I spoke to Kate Langbrook the other day.

We did. And it was a lot of fun. We do love her. She's been on the show before. She has. We love Kate. And this should be an easy one for you to panel, Jenna. You basically just got to hit play.

Is it over there? Did you put the interview over there? Yeah, they're all on there. It's a pre-recorded interview, Jenna. Is it there, Jenna? It says Kate interview. Kate chat? Yep.

That's it. That's it. Kate Langbrook is here. Not yet. So there's also an opener for it. So like a bit of music and shit. Sets the scene. And then, so you play that first.

And then at the moment where we start talking, you hit play on the other one. That's us going, hello, Kate. This is where the skill's involved. So you have to time it and we've got to really hit the post. Yeah, you've got to fire off one sound effect and then make us start talking at the right moment. But don't talk over the vocals like I did at the start of the show

over Mitchell Coombs' name. Which will never happen again, will it? Amen. Thank you. You would never betray me. No, I can't. My brain is fried. Okay, I'm doing it now. Alright, here it is. Our catch up with Kate

Langbrook. Kisses Kate Langbrook. Thank you, thank you. Has an inspiring true story about moving to Italy. We didn't speak Italian. We knew nobody. And then throw in a pandemic. Kate Langbrook is here.

Hello, Katie. Welcome back. My bitches. My bitches. Is that your favourite bitches? We love you, Kate. When was the last time we had Kate on? What was it for?

Last time it was when Jenna went to court. And so Kate was our third wheel. Oh, yeah. Oh, was Jenna at court? Yeah, she was. I don't think I knew Jenna was at court. She's in a fight with her landlord. Yeah.

But last time we had you on, you were like in the studio, so I imagine we got work, Kate. But today on the Zoom she's kicked back in bed. We've got relaxed Kate. Don't forget you're allowed to swear here, Kate. That's the rule. Could I see you next Tuesday? Go for it.

Do you want to do it, Kate? Do you want? Yeah. No. I don't want to shock anybody, but, you know, I'm quite partial to that word. Oh, yeah. I love finding out that everyone that works in media is actually

a potty mouth behind the scenes. Disgusting. That's my favourite thing when I started working in media, being like they're all foul like me. It's amazing. Well, because when your microphone's on, you really just have to banish that part of you, then that part of you has to come out with a vengeance at some point.

It definitely does. Stupid little podcast. Gay boys, Kate. By the way, Mitch. Mitch. Which one? No, not you, Mitch. You, Mitch.

How did we tell your part last time? I think you called me Betty. I don't know if you remember, but you nicknamed me Betty. I thought I was Betty. We're both Betty. I thought I was Betty, but it's perfect that you're Betty. Anyway, Betty, you know that I moonlighted with Mitch. Did you?

When Monty was unwell. That's right. He was your other half on 3 p.m. Pick Up. They thought, you know, typically a show hosted by mums and women, they thought Mitch Cheery's the next best thing, isn't it? Slot and writing. We had a great time. Yeah, I was a bit jealous about that.

Was there jealousy involved, Mitch? Oh, of course there was. But I would have happily had you, Betty, but I didn't know where you were. You're such a mysterious sort of creature. Betty is. What do you do during the day? Oh, God. What does Betty do during the day? Oh, God. What does Betty do during the day?

Betty from Blacktown. He films videos and he's a very busy man. He's doing brand deals. He's one of those new age. Is he? Yeah, he's in demand, Kate. Mitch is being very polite and trying not to use the word influencer because he knows I hate that word.

But in a nutshell, it's basically that. I'm a good friend. Yeah. Betty. All right, Kate. Mitch has been – actually, this is true. Mitch hasn't read a page of your new book, Kate. Hasn't even – Now, hang on.

Of course he hasn't. Hang on. And you know what I call him? Matt Doran. And you know what you will call me? Adele. Adele. I was about to say, he don't be casting aspersions.

I'm no Matt Doran here. I haven't actually read a page, but I was thrilled to find that there's an audiobook version. Thank God. Oh, and that's me reading the audiobook version. It is, and I'm such an audiobook kind of person. Like my ADHD doesn't really, yeah, it doesn't allow me to like sit there and read a book, but I can multitask.

I've got Kate in my ear laughing at her own jokes in the book. That was my favourite part while I'm cooking dinner and stuff. It's great. Did you have to do that all in one go? Because it sounds like you've got the exact same tone of voice. It sounds like nothing differs. Or did they let you do like one chapter a day? No, I did.

I would do, I did it over a week, like a working week, Monday to Friday. That's still a lot. Yeah, it was a lot. But the guy who did it, he was so adorable, Derek. Derek. He looked like he'd be a Doctor Who fan. Do you know what I mean? Yeah, I know exactly what you mean.

Yeah. And I was kind of waiting for him to give me some notes. And then the girl from the book company was on Zoom as well watching and I waited for them to tell me. You know how it's like when you're at work, people might not know this, but in the radio, you know, if you're reading something or someone will say, oh, can you do it again with a bit more vim or, you know, you wrote.

Not one bit of direction. How was it? Betty, what would you have suggested to me? I thought it was great. I mean, you definitely sounded more, like, relaxed than you would when you're kind of performing on the radio. But that's what I liked about it. It was very, you know, chilled and conversational.

Yeah, but Mitch, you don't know this because when I jumped in on the pickup with you, Kate, Kate revealed, remember that giant earthquake that hit, it wasn't really giant, but the earthquake that hit Melbourne a few months ago. Kate, you need to send us the audio, Kate, if you can, because we'll insert it here. Oh, I have to. Yeah, Kate was recording the audio book when the earthquake hit and you hear it.

I'd totally forgotten that, Mitch. And then in it, how do you think I reacted, Betty? How do you think Katie would be? Well, I like to think your inner professional would have tried to soldier on, but at a certain point you just would have been like, oh, fuck. Like, what's going on? Like, surely. I really need to hear this.

Please send it through. I'll put it in the podcast. I could see with my mother eyes that his breath was high in his chest. He was nervous. And then after an inauspicious start. What was that? It could only be an earthquake. Huh? Is that an earthquake? It could only be an earthquake. Oh my goodness. I thought I was having a stroke or something. Anthea, we just had a tremble in the studio. I'm sorry. I just ran to the doorway because this house is shaking fully.

Anyway, sorry. Well, you can't be sorry for an earthquake. But we should say the book is Ciao Bella, Six Take Italy, Kate Lanebrook's story of a family moving to Italy before the pandemic, then the pandemic hit. It was chaos, Kate. And Mitch doesn't know this, but I know again from The Pick Up that you're a diehard Morning Wars fan, as is Mitch, as am I. And as I sit there, Kate, and I see Mitch Kessler sitting

in what looks to be, I'm thinking Lake Como, it looks like it's Lake Como. Yes. Is that what you pictured and envisioned for your Italian lifestyle to be? Yes, except, you know, Mitch Kessler wasn't really at Como. Where did he film it? They filmed it at some old nunnery in like Santa Barbara or San Francisco or something like that.

Oh, well, I fell for it. I fully believed it was Italy. However, all right, can we just deviate for a moment? I know we're talking about my fabulous book, Ciao Bella. Yeah, go on, deviate. Can we just talk about Morning Wars for a moment? Please, any time. It was a very, have you just watched the last episode?

Yeah, I just did. We're up to date. I was not happy with that last episode. Neither were we. She went full, Alex Levy went full Joe Rogan, right-wing conspiracy podcaster. And also, yes, and who cares? And there's old Chip nodding away, or is it Chuck? Chip.

You know. Yeah, Chip, Chip. Nodding away as though she's doing something amazing, and it actually was not amazing. It was just like – It wasn't. It was actually like someone had just given Auntie Nell an iPhone and she discovered the video function on it for the first time.

Yeah. I was way less glued this season. Like season one, I was very, oh my God, I can't wait for the next episode. But this one I was like, ah, better. And also, we're all over COVID. Like we just lived it. We don't want to rewatch it. Skip it.

Yes! Well, here you are, Mitch, saying, oh, no one wants to re-live COVID. But Kate's book, sorry, it very much touches on COVID. But I was actually waiting to get to the COVID part. There was so much in the build-up. You had like the most heavenly first year. Although the thing that I did find surprising, I didn't factor in the time difference. You were still doing your afternoon radio show in Australia from Italy. What time was it again? In the morning, but I was getting up at like four or five o'clock. Yeah, see, that's bullshit getting up at 4am when you're on this, you know, Italian escape. Mate, do you think that was my idea, Betty? No. That was David William

Hughes, the most persistent person in the world who said, you're not going to give up work, not giving up work, can do the show from over there. I'm like, what? Because now, of course, when we say I did the show from Italy, people are like, well, I zoom from my office all the time. No one did that then. We didn't even have Zoom. Zoom wasn't a thing.

But, yeah, you gave that up and I don't blame you because the rest of the story when you had all these getaways to Sicily, oh, it sounded heavenly. There was one thing you actually mentioned in the book that I really resonated with, which was, I wrote it down, you were talking about your son and your husband and you said, they clash as often as they bond these two, something I believe is not unusual for fathers and firstborn sons.

And I was like, oh, other people do this? My little brother is so, like, easygoing, but sometimes I just lock horns with my father for fun just because I'm bored and he always bites back. Yeah, yeah. There's something about I think fathers are harder on the firstborn son, but I've got girlfriends who say the same and they end up having the conversations with the dads of their sons saying,

you know, why? And then they accuse us of being too soft on them. I think I've overheard this exact argument between my parents. Yeah, you would have. You'd hear the same thing in our house. Oh, not that we argue, Betty. No, never. But we do discuss things sometimes in a very animated, vocal and loud manner.

Don't we all now? Mitch, do you ever clash with your dad? Yeah, I do. I'm the firstborn son. But no, my dad's very soft. My dad sends me inspirational quotes every day to start the day. Does he? Yeah.

Let me get what he sent me. He didn't send me one today, actually, but he's on start the day. Does he? Yeah, my dad. Let me get what he sent. He didn't send me one today, actually, but he's on a business trip. But let me find the most recent. He's on a business trip. Mark Turi. He's a businessman. So I'm thinking, no, they don't clash like most eldest sons and fathers

if he's sending you fucking inspirational quotes. No, it's not the same. Well, this is from yesterday. Slowing down, resting, and or stillness may feel unsafe and uncomfortable for you. If you're used to chaos or living under constant stress because your nervous system is used to being in survival mode. And he said, saw this, resonated with me, hope it resonates with you. Love you endlessly, Dad. Oh, I love him.

Yeah, that is very divine. No, but I was smack silly as a kid. So maybe he got it out of his system when I was an infant. Yeah, right. Oh, did he have a change, did he? Yeah, he had a change. There was a pivotal moment. But what brought about his change?

Once he turned 50, turned a corner, he was a changed man. Oh, really? Oh, I love that. God, I love people who show the capacity for change. Then I came out and I think he was probably terrified of hitting a gay man. He didn't like that. So he's like, oh, I might. Well, that's it.

Yeah. No one can. Dad, don't be a poof debasher. That's exactly right. Yeah, I've said that verbatim. Anyway, the book is available now. You can get it. You can buy it at all good booksellers.

And, of course, online you can get it on audiobooks, which Mitch is enjoying, right? Yes, I am loving it. We wanted to do with you, Kate, whilst you're here. Mitch, Betty, oh, you're adorable, you two. Oh, thank you. We're not done, Kate. Stay in bed.

Oh, yes. While we've got you, because you've experienced Australia and Italy and what they've both got to offer, we want to do a quick round of who does it better? Because I reckon from listening to that book there's a lot of things that Italy shits on us with, you know what I mean? Oh, I know, and you don't kind of want to be that person that goes,

oh, my God, initially, but yet I am that person. But there are some things that Australia does magnificently. For instance, this morning when I was in the supermarket and the lady was packing my bags for me, that doesn't happen in Italy. In Italy, you have to pack. It's like every store is fucking Aldi. Oh, my God. And you are there trying to, yeah, yeah.

No, I'm not here for that. So just little things like that. Getting our rubbish collected. Oh, my goodness, that doesn't happen in Italy. Really? Where do you put it? Well, because we lived rubbish collected. Oh, my goodness, that doesn't happen in Italy. Really? Where do you put it? Well, because we lived in a medieval city, you know,

and there's a lot of medieval cities in Italy. So we had to go to the rubbish bin, which was the central bins in the city. But because it was Italy and things are a bit scattered, the organico is in one place, the plastico is two blocks away, and you've got five different kinds of rubbish. Oh, I'd rather be dead than have to deal with that. That's no good. Chuck me in the plastico. All right, hit her with some other options.

Okay, so we've got a few things to get through. Number one is traffic. Who does it better, Australia or Italy? Italy, because you're allowed to speed. Oh, yeah, of course. Wasn't your husband a little bit frightened to try and keep up with their speed? Why is that? Well, because on the freeway, very rare that you saw a speeding sign,

like a speed limit sign on the freeway. So we really didn't know. But we would often get overtaken by a nonna going 160 kilometres an hour in a little Fiat. Yeah. And so we would ask our friends and then they would say things like, hey, well, you know, the speed limit, it's 120 kilometres an hour, but if it's a two-lane freeway, you can go 140, and if it's three lanes plus, you can go 140 plus,

whatever you like. Shit. So how is that an answer? Yeah, that sounds like it's open to interpretation. Australia would slap you with so many fines if you just kind of went, no, we're good. Do you know what? The freedom in Italy, the freedom to ride your bike without a helmet,

the freedom to have a cigarette with a glass of wine out in front of a restaurant, the freedom to speed, just the freedom to take your dog with you anywhere, into shop, the dog's welcome anywhere. Like just those little freedoms mean a lot in your life. Like they're very nourishing. Yeah, I've never known a time where those things are freedoms. Like if I ever had a fucking dart with my rosé in a restaurant, I would think I'm going to get tackled by someone like that.

I would just never. Yeah. All right, what's the next one? Who does it better, radio, Italians or Australians? 100% Australia. Great. Yeah, I'll take that. Sorry, current show accepted.

Oh, ouch. No, no, all of Italian pop music and their radio sounds like it's 1984. Really? Oh, so WSFM. It's just very, and when our producer Sash was over there trying to find somewhere for me to broadcast back to Australia from. She just couldn't get over how antiquated all the radio stations were. She went and looked at about seven in Bologna and she said they were just,

it was honestly like 1992. Wow. Yeah, gone. I bet they can smoke inside there too. You could do that back in the day in radio studios, couldn't you? I remember when I lived with my girlfriend, Mish, and she had a terrible breakup and she comforted herself by playing, what's that game with that gorgeous little guy,

that video game and he's a gorgeous guy and he has to lasso the horse. I have no idea. Zelda, maybe? Yeah, Zelda. There we go. Zelda. Anyway, my girlfriend, Zelda. There we go. Zelda. Anyway, my girlfriend, Mish, has played Zelda seriously for six months on repeat and chain smoked inside.

And because she was so heartbroken, I learnt to play Zelda just to keep her company. Yeah, wow. But I did have to say after about six months, do you reckon you might enjoy your cigarette more if you had it out? Because the whole house, it was a two-storey house, the whole house just reeked of cigarettes. Have your Dariel Fresco, Mish.

It's much nicer out there. Has she bounced back? Oh, she's totally bounced back. Bounced the bounce back. All right, Mish, do a couple more. Do a couple more. See, that's Mish saying I've given such long, elaborate and probably tedious answers.

What number are we actually going to do, Mish? How many are you going to give me? Do you know what? We're on a podcast. There are actually no rules about how long the answers are, how long we chat for. It's really just a question of how many you want to do, Kate. Obviously, Mish has got some rules.

No. I'm thinking of you, Kate Langbrook. I know you want to do, Kate. Obviously, Mitch has got some rules. No. I'm thinking of you, Kate Langbrook. I know you're a very busy lady. You've got succession on pause or whatever. Yeah, look at me in bed. You know, it's actually up to you. You tell us when you no longer give a fuck. Yeah.

Number three, Wi-Fi. Hey, guys, I no longer give a fuck. Come on, gimme, gimme. All right, do another one. Let's move on. Okay, so who does it better, customer service, Australia or Italy? We're pretty good. Australia.

Ooh, okay. I feel like you mentioned in the book, I might be paraphrasing, but I think you said at one point you were a little bit overwhelmed because they're quite aggressive. They're almost like, what, you want to shop here? They're not necessarily warm. Well, I found the women in their shops, they've got a strange manner. It's strange to me because I was a stranger, you know.

Yeah. But things like one of my Italian friends was saying the reason they put everything in the shop window in Italy or in Bologna is so that when you come in you know what you're looking for. So it's not like I've just come in to browse. Oh, right. But whereas I would go in not knowing what I wanted and they thought that was really weird.

All right, one more. Have you got somewhere to be? I'm just conscious that Kate has a half-eaten pack of salt and vinegars. What's wrong with him? He's really gone off me. No, they're finished. The salt and vinegars are finished. Fucking carry gone off me. No, they're finished. The salt and vinegar's are finished. Fucking carry on, Mitch.

I'm just going here waiting for the indigestion. It'll hit. Well, the next one is possibly the most important. Who does it better when it comes to men, Australia or Italy? Who has the finer gentleman? It's a very hard question to answer and I'll tell you why. I obviously have a massive soft spot for Australian men. I love a smart, working-class guy.

I love that Australians do that better than anyone. Like, you know, just a funny tradie or whatever, you know, we're just very good at that. But Italian men pay women such attention that it is, and whereas Australian men have been stolen from us by pornography, they don't care about real women anymore in Australia. Yeah, they don't care about real women. But Italian guys do, you reckon?

Italian men pay such attention to women. It is amazing. Wow. So that my girlfriend, she came over, couldn't believe it. Yeah, wow. Are they flirty, Kate? Like, were they flirtatious even with you? What do you mean, even with me, Mitch?

Hang on. Being there with your husband, your beloved Peter Allen Lewis. No, that's not. Let's just back up. This is why I wanted to stop. Even with your cadaverous 90-year-old horrendously out of shape self, did they muster a little Lazarus-like enthusiasm even for you?

Not what I meant. You're gorgeous and radiant. But Peter Allen Lewis was, I'm sure, by your side. Peter Allen Lewis. Well, you know what was funny? One, we used to go to this restaurant all the time that was run by the greatest food and run by this really, I've written about him in the book,

but I haven't written this story about him in the book, this really, I've written about him in the book, but I haven't written this story about him in the book. Very flirty guy who'd get drunk and sing opera and at the end of the night he'd come and give you a rose and give his speech and take your hand and kiss your hand and very fun, fun sort of guy. You don't get that shit here. No, at a restaurant. Oh, no, no, no, not in a hundred years. Anyway, especially not me.

Anyway, one night we were at his restaurant and Peter went to the toilet and the owner came over to my table and sat down. He always sits at your table and he pours wine and, you know, and he said to me, why don't you come back tomorrow for lunch without your husband? I'm like, mate, he's literally a two-minute piss away. Like what? I couldn't believe it.

And also his wife came into that restaurant all the time and his wife came up one night and the time. And his wife came up one night and introduced herself to me in a, she had a strange energy about it. Not unpleasant, but just a bit whatever. And then I realized, oh, it's his wife. And she's got the energy of a woman who's constantly cheated on by her husband in the restaurant that no doubt she works at. That's not a good reflection of Italian men, that one. You proved me wrong, Kate. What about?

That I've still got it. Yeah. Eh, eh, eh. Wink, wink. Do you know what, though? Speaking of your husband, people sometimes ask us, ooh, like would you ever date a listener? And I don't know if you've heard this story, Mitch,

but can you tell us, Kate, how you met your husband? Oh, yes. Oh. So my husband was I met on a radio trip. The station sponsor did this thing that they hadn't done for a few years and they would send a broadcaster over with a bunch of listeners. And I went on the trip with 15 listeners and Peter was one of those listeners. There you go. And did you shack up on the trip with 15 listeners and Peter was one of those listeners. There you go.

And did you shack up on that trip? No, Mitch. He had a girlfriend back in Australia and I had a boyfriend. What do you think? Okay. That look on her face, I can't read it. It's just one eye. Can't read it.

It's like my book. Can't read it. You need the audio book. Anyway, and so then we came back and we sort of tap danced around each other for a couple of years and then we got together. There you go. Where are you going? Hang on.

Oh, no, here's Lewis Lewis. Hello. Look, this is Mitch and Mitch. Come over and say hello. That's Mitch and that's Mitch. I tell them apart by calling this Mitch Betty. Right. Yeah. This is Lewis Lewis. We this Mitch Betty. Right. Yeah.

This is Lewis Lewis. We're talking about the book. You can ask Lewis something. Hey, Lewis, I have a question for you. Did you ever find out the backstory behind the, was it a Freddo Kate or a Caramello Koala in the letterbox? What have I missed here? Do you want to tell the story quickly, Lewis Lewis?

We found a letter in our letterbox. And it was during lockdown, wasn't it? Yeah, it was during lockdown. We found a letter in our letterbox. And it was during lockdown, wasn't it? Yeah, it was during lockdown. We found a letter in our letterbox. That's where letters are. But it was like a Freddo frog. Was it a Freddo frog? Yeah.

Sticky tape to a handwritten letter. It looked like it was done by a 12-year-old or a 10-year-old or something. And we weren't sure. It was just a random Freddo frog, so we weren't sure what it was. So we didn't eat it, but, yeah, so that was a strength. And it had a motivational message on it like, oh, be you,

everybody else is taken. Maybe it was from your daddy. My dad, maybe it was Mark Drury. What did you come in for, Lewis? If you want to go for a drive. Oh, Lewis is just, yeah, we'll go for a drive. All right, give me how long with these boys? An hour.

We'll let you go. Are you teaching him to drive, Kate? Is he on the L's? Yes. He's just, we just got them last week and I took him for his first ever drive in the car, which I realised I didn't really know what to tell him to do. Yeah, it's actually hard to explain. I was like, okay, just start the car and start driving.

You know, I thought you had to keep, if you took your foot off the accelerator, the car would stop instantly. That was my first thought when I started driving. I thought it was a stop start. Well, you would think that, wouldn't you? You would. Anyway, so we go to this big car park outside this, like, you know, sports centre here.

Ah, yeah. And then we just drive around. But then he drove on the road back home the other day. And once you've driven on the proper road with other traffic, what else is there to learn? Yeah, that's actually pretty scary because I grew up in the country, so, like, it was very quiet streets to learn on. But once I came to Sydney, oh, different story.

Oh, totally. But hang on, But once I came to Sydney, oh, different story. Oh, totally. But hang on, in the country, riddle me this, surely you would have driven people's paddock bashes and whatever. You would have been more familiar with a car than city kids who have never had any quiet street to practice on. Oh, I'd been driving manual since I was eight. Yeah, well, there you go. Oh, what? Yes. This is what I was eight. Yeah, well, there you go. Oh, what?

Yes. This is what I said to Lewis. Like, it's quite ridiculous. I was saying this to Petty the other night. How ridiculous that our children get to 18 and they've never sat behind the wheel of a car. Yeah. I mean, I know.

You know what I mean? Like, just not had that experience of bouncing around in a paddock or, you know. Smoking in a cafe with their dog on their lap. Yes. What's going on? Oh, yeah. You've got to get some country friends, darling.

Take them out to the farm. You'll be fine. Get the young ones started early. Yes, and I'd love some country friends. Do you think they'd love me? Yeah, I'll give you Ian and Jane's address. I'll meet you there. Head up to Bogan Gap for Christmas.

All right, Kate, let's let Kate go. Mitch, since I first came on your highly regarded show, you have been desperate to get rid of me. Who have you got waiting in the wings, Kylie? No one. Do you know what? I think it's his inner radio guy. He's like, you know, type five, a quick break.

I keep reminding him it's a podcast. We could do this for days if we so choose. I'm also aware of my guest. I mean, your guest is like being bundled out the door and your guest is going, but I haven't had my dessert yet. Have your grappa and get out. Well, do you know what? You've clearly got, you know, some driving lessons to do.

I'll ask you one last question. I can't believe I forgot to ask you this last time. Yeah. Because we have one question we ask every single guest that we have on. Yeah. And that is we get them to contribute to our things better than drugs and dick. It's a growing list. So it's essentially, you know, sweet pleasures,

like a little small thing in life that you love. Like what did Jess Malboy say? She said she likes being barefoot in a garden. Of course she did. Yeah. And the thing is, did you say the thing is better than drugs and dick? I did because I think we've got a lot of younger female listeners who might be a bit party and boy obsessed right now.

And male. So it's just our way of saying, guys, there's more to life. And male. Yes, men are listening. Yeah, no, it's true. We have a lot of gays, so this applies to them. We're just saying, listen, there's more to life. Yeah, I have so many little pleasures.

The ocean, just swimming in the ocean. That's literally the biggest pleasure, but okay. Oh, is that a big pleasure? Is it too big? It's quite a vast pleasure. The sea is large. All right. Don't know if you're across that.

You did live over them once. You did cross it to get to Italy. All right. Hang on. What about this? I love nothing more than eating crispy bacon streaky with a mini can of Coke in bed. Great added crisp bacon. Get every word.

Yep. Kate, do you bake your bacon? Do you put it in the oven on a baking dish? No, I don't. You can get fucked. I fry it the way the creator intended. And you know what else I do? And this is going the extra mile.

So I also remove the rind from the bacon. Uh-huh. And then in the Lewis Langbrook house, we cook that separately and it goes all crispy and stunning and it's a little chef's treat. Oh, I've never even thought of that. That sounds divine actually. Oh, it's stunning. Barbarians who cook their bacon with the rind on.

No, get away from me. Get in the bin. And if you eat that bacon and the coke in the kitchen, get fucked, not on the list. You must be in your bed. Must be in bed because one of my little pleasures, better than D&D, is eating in bed. Oh, 100%.

I really love to gobble, gobble, gobble in the sand. Why was the camera heading closer to your face with every gobble? Yeah. Kate, what are you watching on the screen? I started binging when I was sick a couple of weeks ago. I'm just like, I've got all the time in the world to watch something. So I started watching this show called Insecure. Oh, Insecure.

And so I started watching that. I'm in love with the lead girl. She's just so incredible. The rest of the show is just a bit strange, so strange that I persisted through five and a half seasons. Geez. And now I've actually caught up in the binge and now I'm just smashing down a new episode.

Yeah, I'm a bit like that with bloody SVU. I'm like the whole show is strange but, you know, that detective, Olivia Benson, she keeps me there. Yeah, you watch it for her. The strong female lead is all that keeps me there. Is that Mariska? Yeah. Are you a crime person?

Not normally. I don't like to go to bed, you know, to the sound of rapes and sodomy. That's what everyone always does. She was murdered and they slid her from her belly to her throat. Good night. I know. I've actually become numb to that shit. If something happens on the news, I'm like, oh, wait,

I need to take a moment to remember that that's fucking real. I'm just used to hearing that stuff. So, you know, I've always got a theory. Yeah. My theory is, you know, everyone's like, well, it's so violent. Be kind. It's gangster. Yeah.

Yeah. But they're the same people that are absolutely gorging themselves on true crime. And, you know, there's this Hawaiian religion or philosophy called huna yeah and one of the tenets of huna is energy goes where attention flows and so if you're just gorging on violence and women being raped and murdered and buried under their things and the teacher's pet and l-la. Where do you think that shit is going in your psyche? So if we all listen to podcasts about, like, winning the lotto and shit,

we're good. Yes, beautiful things. And a hummingbird. But you know what I mean? Like, if you're soul sick, start with what you're feeding your soul. That's a good point. I love that. Start with what you're feeding your soul. That's a good point. I love that. Mitch. Start with what you're feeding your soul.

Special victims unit. Dun, dun. All right, Kate, let's leave Kate on that. All right, bye. I'm sick of you trying to get rid of me. All right, I'm gone. Bye. We love you.

See you, Kate. What's not right that your guest is more fond of you than you are of your guest? Rack off. I do this out of fondness because I adore you so much. No, I don't accept it, Mitch. You've got all big-headed. Do you want to stay? You can stay, Kate.

You can host the show. No, no. She's gone. See you, Kate. Love you. Love you, buddy. Ciao, ciao. See you.

Oh, sorry, Jenna. I forgot to tell you. You've got to play the generic opener after that. It's just me. A generic opener. It should be next to the Kate that. It's just me. Oh, generic opener. It should be next to the Kate chat. Is it just me? Just rewind a bit.

Maybe we'll give her one more go with that because that's my bad. I forgot to tell her. Okay. After we wrap up with Kate, you play the... Closer, yeah. Okay. Do you want to stay? You can stay, Kate. You can host the show.

No. No. She's gone. Is it just me? Love you. Love you. Chat, chat. See ya. Talk over.? Love you. Love you. Chat, chat. See ya.

Talk over. That's fine. Welcome back. She's doing well so far. She's not doing bad at all. Well, we're about to wrap, so get that closing music ready, Jenna. Yep, whip it out, Jen. It's been a big show.

It's hard to shut Kate up, isn't it? Isn't it ever? She just goes and goes and goes. Like we said in the chat, she was in bed for the whole interview. I know. Oh. Wow. No, that's good.

You can have that. Yeah, not that loud though. There we are. Yeah. She was brilliant. In bed the whole show with a packet of Smith's chips. Like she was living the life. Empty.

They were empty. What was she watching? Some HBO show? I can't remember. And don't forget next week, our final episode of the year, episode 94, John Laws. You'll hear how mine and Mitch's interview with the king of radio, the king of talkback, I should say. Yes, of course. The king of radio is in this room.

Oh, please. You'll hear how that went next week. It's going to be a big one. Our last show of the year, guys. It's our little Chrissy gift to you, ending it with John Laws. Can't wait. Oh, now Jen is getting experimental. Bit of bit, huh?

You're impressing me. Yeah. Oh, same bit. Oh. Anything happening, Jenny? Because you can talk as well. Sorry. She's gone mute.

She's really not good at multitasking. Now I'm kind of impressed that you managed to do both. Doing both. Being hilarious. And pressing buttons hard. Okay, we'll see you next week. And handsome. Yeah, thank you.

And thin. We will see you next week for 94. It's been a pleasure. But don't forget, leave us a five-star review if you want to keep us on the cloud. Yep, if you're on Apple Podcasts, just leave us a five-star review. It won't be hard, we promise. No, it's very easy. See you next week, guys.

Thanks for listening. Bye. Is it just me? A podcast by a couple of mitches. Make sure you've hit follow on your podcast app. Welcome to ADD Brief. This is our secret segment on the end. We pretend we're done.

We wrap up the show, trick everyone out of listening, and then we have the real fun. Nothing's planned in this bit. We just let our ADHD brains run wild. Yeah, this is the after party of the main show. It's loose. You may have the best night of your life, or you may have the worst.

I do realise that was a mispronunciation. Now, Jenna, ADD brief is also strife with sound effects. This is where... Oh, someone's here. Who? Who? They crashed, sorry. They crashed.

Oh, you needed a crash sound effect. It sounded like they just sailed off into the sunset. No, it was too far. She hasn't mastered multiple at once. She's really sticking to one channel. You've got... Yeah, I'm sick of your stories. Sick of it.

I already feel that this ADD beef is going to be fucked. I already don't like it. I love it. Being on the receiving end of sound effects, it's comedy gold. Jenny, you sort of need to talk to accompany the sound effect or it doesn't make sense. No, I like the sound effect alone. Yeah, maybe you'll get a taste of your medicine. Now that you're

not the one pressing it, it's not as funny. If you're just having your conversations interrupted. Well, she's got them so low that it doesn't actually matter. I know, Jenna, why have the volume down so much? Yeah, Jenna, you're going to have to crank those headphones up so that you can check the levels as you go. Yeah. Too loud. She's become mute. She's just not talking. You down so much. Jenna, you're going to have to crank those headphones up so that you can check the levels as you go. Yeah.

Too loud. She's become mute. She's just not talking. You've got to make the joke, then use the sound effect. The sound effect is nothing. Back to the sound. Sorry, sorry. Back to the sound. I switched the wrong one.

Oh, did you? Yes. What a shock. Mitchell, I locked in two segments for the Jenna side show today. Good job. Don't tell me. I don't want to know. No, I know. I segments for the Jenna Side Show today. Good job. Don't tell me. I don't want to know. No, I know. Mitch doesn't want any involvement. And Jenna, I'm just helping you because you're incapable of it

and you will have to produce everything. But I'm going to send you all you need to know and it's the Jenna Side Show. You're producing it and you're getting it on the cloud. Yep. Can do. Yep. Fabulous. Janet, five seconds.

You have to pay for that. It's my least favourite song. That's coming out of your money. My least favourite song too. Oh. How did you find the Moderator Games intro? I forgot about that. Sorry.

Can we not? Sorry. We're about four months into the reign of our moderators, and the moderators are doing real well. I haven't had to approve a post on Enduring Idiots, our secret Facebook page, in months. Maybe they're getting a bit approve-heavy, like they're being too generous. Yeah, I noticed some post in there about peanut butter,

and I thought this didn't need to be approved. Peanut butter. I don't mind the peanut butter. No, some of them are too much. Do you like crunchy or smooth? Smooth. Smooth, absolutely. Crunchy.

I got berated when I was in Byron Bay a couple of weeks ago. Big group of friends. I went and did the shop. Yes. And peanut butter was on the list and I got smooth and everyone was like, you should get crunchy. I'm like, well, you do the shop. Why did you do the shop for them all?

No, there was a few of us. Oh, you all went, yeah. There was fucking 14 people there in total and so three of us went and did the shop. Too many. And no you all went, yeah. There was fucking 14 people there in total, and so three of us went and did the shop. Too many. And no one specified they wanted crunchy, and even if they did, I wouldn't have done it, because I want smooth. You know what? And I'm going to say this once, and I will never say it again.

There's nothing worse than an artisanal peanut butter. What? Like a, I'm trying to make a fancy peanut butter. Oh, I'm quite partial to a bit of fancy almond butter, even. It's not butter. Spoiler alert. Well, is peanut butter butter? Because some people put butter with peanut butter.

That's fucked. I put butter with peanut butter. Yuck. Really? You have to. No, you don't. Yeah, otherwise you choke. It's too dry.

It's clag glue on dry bread. Yeah, it is very risqué. It is. I'm still not over that. Neither am I. Fucking Corey. A great call That was some good fairy tales and fizzes today Very good

Yeah Oh That's not a sound effect That's the prize wheel behind you Mitch Get ready for the Get ready for the winner bed Jenna We landed on Not in the mood

We have Trent in Harrington Highlands Trent Oh Oh poor Trent. Didn't even get to tell him what he won. He won a pair of. Jenna, they're way too quiet, I feel.

Bowling shoes. Way too quiet. Look up here. See the levels? That's how you monitor. They're not cutting through, Jenna. They're shocking. Never use this ever.

What are they here for? What is that? Well, it's on your sound effects wall, darling. I know. Oh, yeah. Now, you know what's interesting? What? If you press on the keyboard Command F, you then can search anything you want.

So if we're talking about birds, you can search bird and you'll play a bird sound effect. That's when the craft gets involved. That's why you'll often hear Mitch furiously typing away over there and I'm like, what are you doing, what are you doing, what are you doing? Not a sound effect, we don't need it. So, Jenna, feel free to craft, Jenna. This is brilliant. I'm training my protege.

You're shocking at the moment, but you'll get there. No, it's my first time. You're creating a monster. I am. I spilt it wrong. Is she really going to be panelling this whole thing by herself? The genocide. The genocide show.

Yes. Yes, I will. Call 13 WS. Oh, sorry. No, that's not me. Wait, wait, no, no. I can't. I can't be.

That's my cousin Amanda Turi. Goodbye. No, no, no. Wait, wait, wait. What's this one? That's Britney Spears. Mitch is leaving Wait what if I look up Coombs

Yeah I'm sure you'll get stuff What's this It says Coombs voice family That sounds beautiful The Mitchell singing He's got a great voice Wow Wow he's impressive.

And that's his voice. It is. What a talent. Do you want to maybe search, I don't know, is it just me? Itch him. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, yeah. God, yeah. I agree. Oh, believe it. Hosted by a couple of Mitches. That's what they used on the Kyle and Jackie O Show for Mitchell Coombs'. Oh, really?

Yeah. Interesting, though, that they chose that and not something from one of his acclaimed videos. Yes, that's surprising. Well, it is the biggest thing he's known for. Is it just me, the podcast? Of course. Of course.

Beloved by thousands. Millions. Millions even, yeah. I heard him talking in the hallway. He said, oh, Trash Alley's beloved by people. I heard that too. I think they've got under 10 listeners. It's sad, but we'll get there.

Sad, but, you know, it's sad and maybe violin music would show me just how sad it is. Right, dogs. Okay, let's call it a night. I'm going to call it a night. Nope, I'm over it. I kinks. Yes!

Oh, my God. Oh, my. What is this? Wait. Where is he? I'm calling him to let him know. Oh, I was just calling you. I'm officially over it.

I'm done. Told you. Jenna, we're swapping back. You're less than over. Okay. Now you know what it's like to have someone blast down a Vex at you. She won't stop playing Jonesy and Amanda best options. Get it off!

Amanda and her stupid words. Thank God. Thank you, Jenna. Now wrap up the show. No, you've got to play the show closer because we're getting out of here. We are going. Okay. Yeah, God, we hope this podcast made you feel at least 3% better somehow. I feel your brain most weeks, Mitchell. This is how I make you feel.

I'm so glad it took 93 episodes to get through to you. Sometimes they're funny. And sometimes, Jenna, you can't. You've already hit the music. Just let it happen. Yeah, yeah. Let it play around. Sometimes they're funny and sometimes they're well-placed.

But sometimes when they're completely out of nowhere and they are interrupting the flow of the conversation, oh, it does my head in. Hell on earth. Head in. All right, love you, everyone. Thank you for listening. John Laws on the show next week for our last episode of the year.

Yeah, thank God we have one more show to redeem ourselves after Jenna's mess. Christ. We'll see you next week. Final episode of the year with John Laws, guys. Thanks for listening. Catch you then. Bye-bye.

How do I stop it? You work it out. Bye. Do I stop it now? That's up to you. Just press the red button. Which one? The red one.

Oh, that was a bit abrupt. You've got to fade it out. Sorry. Bring it back. There we are. And now start to fade it. Okay. See you it. Okay. See you guys.

Bye. Seven up. Slowly, slowly, slowly. There. What do I do now? Okay, bye. That'll do. Yeah. that'll do yeah