Is It Just Me? - BEST OF: Sex Stuff (ft. Abbie Chatfield & Cam Fraser)

Episode Date: January 8, 2023

Throwing back to some of our favourite bits from the podcast (so far!) This week, it's all the times we've talked FILTH including:   • Kink Class - Omorashi, Blood Play, Mpreg & more • Abbie ...Chatfield talks “Emotional Anal”  • Top 5 Anal Perks with sexologist Cam Fraser  • Root & Boots • The FILTHY FanFic about Mitch & Mitch   **TRIGGER WARNING** This discussion about 'Blood Play' may not be suitable for all listeners (12:39) **SAFE TO RESUME** (15:53)   SEASON 5 COMING SOON!   Hit us up @coupleofmitches xxSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Is it just me? A podcast by a couple of Mitches. Hello you, we're back. Hello Mitchell. Oh, hello you. God, time flies, doesn't it? It feels like we're well into the new year already. We really are. 2022, who is she? Nah, we're back. 2023, I'm loving it. I am about to go off on my first trip of the new year.
Starting point is 00:00:20 I'm going to South Australia for the first time in my life tomorrow. I fly out. You're joking, because I fucking love Adela tomorrow. I fly out. You're joking. Because I fucking love Adelaide. I was converted. I was like, I could live here easily. Yeah, you have massive Adelaide energy. I don't think that a good thing.
Starting point is 00:00:32 I've been told I have very Sydney energy before. So I don't know if I should be offended by that. I don't know if I'd take that as a compliment. Sydney energy. Smog. Congestion. Yeah. Clutter.
Starting point is 00:00:43 Overpriced. Coward punches. Yes. Lockout punches. Yes. Lockout laws. Yeah. So I'm going to Adelaide. I'm seeing Sam Smith. I'm interviewing Sam while they're here for their – they're only doing one show.
Starting point is 00:00:55 Oh, so you're straight back to work. Jesus. Yeah, I know. But it'll be nice, though. So like Tourism SA are sending me down to do like a wine tasting and then I get to interview Sam. That sounds stunning. Yeah, it'd be really nice. So you're right, it is back to work.
Starting point is 00:01:09 But these ones are nice. I should be less vocal about how much I love South Australia in that case because that's why Tourism South Australia didn't send me. They're like, we don't need to convert him. He's already a fan. Good call. Yeah. Where else do you really want to go?
Starting point is 00:01:21 I hate Adelaide. Yes. You're also saying you hate five-star hotels in London. Isn't that right, Mitchell? You really hate them. I can't stand Paris, yeah. Where else do you really want to go? I hate Adelaide. Yes. You're also saying you hate five-star hotels in London. Isn't that right, Mitchell? You really hate them. I can't stand Paris, yeah. No. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:01:31 New York City. No. I really need to be sold. My own Greek island sounds disgusting. I haven't been, though. I've been to it. Anyway, I'm going to SA tomorrow. So South Australian listeners, if you've got any tips for me,
Starting point is 00:01:43 let me know because I'm there for a couple of days on my own as so i'd love to do stuff so dm me on your own yeah yeah well hayden's coming halfway halfway through but i'm working so oh okay on my own yeah wow you're straight back to work we're only in episode three out of five with this little best bit series we're doing and you're already back to work i know we may as well just start doing the podcast again no no no no no no let me no. Let me enjoy my break. But listen, we are here with best bits number three. We're talking sex stuff today. That's this week's theme.
Starting point is 00:02:11 So we often talk about sex stuff on the show. I didn't realise how much we did until we sort of packaged this all up together, but we love some sex chat, Mitch. Yeah, and you might notice as we work our way through some of these throwbacks that a lot of them are clustered within like a five episode bundle. Like we were just really filthy for a few weeks in a row, apparently. Shit, maybe we were horned up. You were very pent up for a while. I mean, this was my single days, I suppose. So maybe. Yeah. It was a lot going on. Firstly, let's kick it off. Do you remember that time we did a segment
Starting point is 00:02:43 called kink class and where we were just learning about all the different kinks out there not kink shaming just a bit of awareness going on because you know some people are into things we don't have to be into them ourselves but hey good to know we didn't yuck anyone's young but we certainly learned a little something or two didn't we i can't say that you know there hasn't been times where i've fought back to this episode and gone god God, maybe I could incorporate that. Some of the things are a bit extreme, as you'll hear. But Kink Class was very fun. And it was all stemmed from your housemate, Jordan, who we've spoken about on the show.
Starting point is 00:03:13 Your ex-housemate, Jordan. We've spoken about him many times. But he, Sam's sex toy, had to fill the void, so to speak. Well, you could say that he was fulfilling someone else's kink. And so this is how kink class came about back in episode 63. But first, Jordan was telling us about something that one of his hookups was into involving food. Let's just put it that way. Take a listen.
Starting point is 00:03:38 Funny story. I have involved food once in a threesome. Oh, now I'm interested. What the fuck is that? I have involved food once in a threesome. Oh, now I'm interested. What the fuck is that? Basically, a few years ago, one guy who I'd been with a few times, he messaged me and he was like, hey, I've got a new kink.
Starting point is 00:04:00 And he's like, my new kink is to be fucked with food. And I'm like, what? Oh, Mitch's eyes just lit up. I can incorporate food. Jordan, you weren't supposed to tell them about that call I made to you. No, so I'm like, okay, continue. And he's like, oh yeah, I like, you know, grocery items and food and stuff. I'm like, oh, what? Okay, like, he's like, can you, do you want to come over? And I'm like, I mean, sure. He's like, cool, what? Okay. Like, he's like, can you, do you want to come over? And I'm like, I mean, sure.
Starting point is 00:04:26 He's like, cool. Can you go to Coles beforehand? What sort of grocery items? Like deodorant cans? What are we talking? Yeah. Did he want an aubergine? Cucumber? Aubergine?
Starting point is 00:04:34 Yes. Cucumber? Yes. So, um, aubergine being eggplant. Yes. Eggplant, cucumber. Capsicum was a really weird one. There was a bitter melon as well.
Starting point is 00:04:44 Oh. Um, and those are like, bitter melons, like a zucchini. Capsicum was a really weird one. There was a bitter melon as well. No. And those are like, bitter melon's like a zucchini that's ribbed for pleasure, basically. Okay. And the final one was a Kent pumpkin. Oh, right. That's huge. Did you go ahead with the fruit root? Yes, I did go ahead with the fruit root.
Starting point is 00:05:03 And there was, so it was a threesome as well. So we were basically making a salad inside his arsehole. Right. Okay. Please tell me you didn't put those things back in the fridge. I swear to God. No, no, no. Most of them actually got peeled and I cooked them into a soup for him.
Starting point is 00:05:23 Are you serious? I am dead serious. Yeah, so reminder, we don't kink shame in this house. No, of course, of course. No, no, no, we do it never. But I did ask our listeners to send in any other out of the ordinary kinks that we might not have heard of that they've either been involved with or been asked to be involved with.
Starting point is 00:05:43 Interesting. And, oh, my God, we've all got some learning to do. I hadn't heard a half of these. Really? But I've been doing the research. So first up, this one comes from Jules. Hi, Jules. Hi, my name's Jules and I am from Melbourne.
Starting point is 00:05:55 I'm an emergency nurse. I had a guy come in with the ambulance with a chopstick in his piss hole. There was a blanket over his lap tented for which i pulled off his lap and see this timber chopstick sticking straight through his dick and i basically in a professional say a professional way rather asked why the fuck did you do that and in his really bogan-y dodgy way was like look i just get off on this shit, you know, man. I was very perplexed at his response, however,
Starting point is 00:06:30 you are your own rainbow. Have a great day, guys. Thanks very much for your podcast and keep up the amazing work. Thanks, Jules. Thank you, Jules. Well, that one was really quite shocking for contraceptive diaphragm Sander. Yeah, you're right, he just got out of his chair.
Starting point is 00:06:47 No, no, no. He has to sneeze too much, isn't it? No, no, no. I'm just thinking about the splinters. Like you get the cheap ones in Deliveroo. They've got a tiny bit off. They just get stuck in. Yeah, that's where he went wrong because he used a wooden chopstick.
Starting point is 00:06:59 But what he was trying to achieve was what's called urethral sounding. People are into it because the urethra passes by very sensitive nerve areas that can feel nice. Women can be into this too. But for men, if a sounding toy goes deep enough, it can stimulate the prostate. But obviously you don't want to use something that's going to get caught. Yes, of course. Like a wooden chopstick from Sushi Go. We don't recommend that one.
Starting point is 00:07:24 All right. Thanks, Jules. This next wooden chopstick from Sushi Go. We don't recommend that one. Oh, all right. Thanks, Jules. This next one comes from Cal. Hey, it's Cal from Dubbo. So one time I was jerking my gherkin and there was like a kind of intense but kind of good burn on my pecker. And then I remembered that I'd cut up chilies about an hour before and i've tried some hotter chilies and it's even better oh so he's actually loving the chili wanks
Starting point is 00:07:57 yeah he's into it that's his new thing and i tried to google more information about this fetish i think it's literally just him. Cal's created it. Yeah, because all that came up was like, danger, in case of emergency, this is what to do. Like, apparently it's not something that people usually enjoy. It's quite a horrific pain, but whatever, he likes it. It's a Dubbo thing. Yeah, I can imagine. I have to admit, I have done that before.
Starting point is 00:08:21 Accidentally. Oh, yes. Chopped up a bird's eye chilli, then rubbed my groin on the chopping board. I just accidentally touched, and it's killer. It's the same as doing it on your lip or your eye, you know, or your nose after you've touched chilli. And, yeah, it's a ride. Well, Cal was into it, but apparently if that does happen,
Starting point is 00:08:38 you're meant to apply milk, yoghurt, canola or vegetable oil to try and ease the burning situation. Unless you're enjoying it. I'm sure he was fine with the milk there. He'd go to the fridge if you know what I mean. Alright, we have someone else. Kent, is it? Yeah, this one's from Kent. Hey, it's Kent from Sydney. And I once hooked up with someone
Starting point is 00:08:58 who had a pregnancy fetish. A pregnancy fetish. Oh. So these are kind of common as it turns out apparently on porn sites the term pregnancy gets searched just as often as the terms redhead and babysitter oh my two kinks what a killer combination of pregnant redhead babysitter oh my god do you want someone to be pregnant while you're doing it or do you want to get them pregnant? I imagine it would be different for everyone,
Starting point is 00:09:31 but they're not actually turned on by the thought of the baby itself. That'd be quite fucked, right? Right, yeah. But apparently it's more to do with, like, the heavy breathing and the moaning that comes with when you're in labour. It kind of sounds like sex noises to some people. Oh, yeah, fair, fair, fair. Jenna, do an impression of being in labour. Oh.
Starting point is 00:09:46 Oh. Okay. Okay. She's not going to end up in any preggo porn sites anytime soon. No. And some people find the actual look of a pregnant body quite a turn on. They like the, you know, the big bump. It's curvaceous.
Starting point is 00:09:57 And a lot of the time women get extra horny when they're pregnant. So, you know, their husbands are quite happy to take advantage of that. I have heard that. Ride the wave, so to speak. I was picturing, like, pregnancy kink. Like, you know, their husbands are quite happy to take advantage of that. I have heard that. Ride the wave, so to speak. I was picturing like pregnancy kink, like, you know, take me to baby bunting! Well, actually, male pregnancy, or M-preg, as they call it, is also part of this kink.
Starting point is 00:10:17 A lot of gay couples like to role play the idea of one of them being pregnant because it's literally something they'll just never actually experience. So it's kind of like, I don't know, letting their imagination run wild. And they say it's all about the emotional closeness and vulnerability, something rarely seen in porn. I agree. I tend to. Oh, I like that.
Starting point is 00:10:35 I agree. Babe, do you want a foot massage? You've been walking around with that third trimester belly all day. I don't know how it works. Yeah, put this bib on. Yeah. I don't know. Let me spoon feed you some mashed apple. That my kind of kick i know i've been there i didn't know but we haven't done a pregnancy
Starting point is 00:10:49 kink but there's been things thrown around like oh get you pregnant that kind of vibe yeah right there you go that kind of ties in with that like knock me out that sort of thing yeah kind of yeah it's kind of like you know right at the end when you're about to climax it's like yeah go go there save me yeah yes goodness me all right this next one comes from ashley all right climax it's like yeah go go there so read me yeah yes goodness me all right this next one comes from ashley all right hey it's ashley and i'm from brisbane so this guy asked me if i would be willing to put on a pair of heels and both stand on and walk all over his body while he lay on the ground so yeah essentially he asked me to trample him the more bruises the better interestingly contraceptive diaphragm sam is nodding his head oh yeah no not for me but i have a mate that
Starting point is 00:11:33 that sounds like not me but i have a friend yeah no but literally i have a mate that that is his absolute life he just all that he wants is a girl and a great pair of like jimmy chews or something and just just give it to him. Yeah, I feel like the heels part, that's a little bit more extreme because all the examples I found was all just barefoot, having someone walk on you, feeling trampled because it's all about feeling submissive and having someone dominate over you. But it just makes me think of the bloody stampede on The Lion King.
Starting point is 00:12:00 Oh, yeah. He was running through his damn life. Yes, in that trench. Yeah, what are they called? Wildebeest. Something like that. Antelope. Yeah, in that trench. Yeah, what are they called? Wildebeest. Something like that. Antelope. Yeah, something like that.
Starting point is 00:12:07 Yeah, that wouldn't work for me. The heel would go straight through my back. It's very soft down there. Yeah, the heel. That's so risky. But hey. Wow. But being dominated is dominatrix and BDSM and that's huge.
Starting point is 00:12:18 Yeah, no, I get that element. But I'm just like, the heels. Like, that's a new extreme. That's dangerous. And you know what I love about that is that often it's real heterosexual, burly, straight men who love that shit. But we never talk about it. But that's their kink in their bedroom.
Starting point is 00:12:31 I love that. I think that's so cool. Totally. All right. This next one from Joanna. Before we get into it, Sam's got a bit of a trigger warning for us. Warning. The following segment contains conversations about blood play
Starting point is 00:12:44 and may not be suitable for all audiences. If conversations about cutting is something you may find distressing, please pause the podcast now and check the show notes for a time code of when it's safe to resume. And remember, if you need someone to turn to, Lifeline is always available for support on 13 11 14. Yeah, so we're talking about blood play. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:13:05 Now, this one comes from Joanna. Okay, let's go. Hi, my name is Joanna. I am from Melbourne. My friend's kink is that she loves blood play. So she loves basically sex with blood, like to be cut someone and that they bleed, or sex on her period,
Starting point is 00:13:27 or anything that basically creates a pool of blood. It's not something that goes so deep that will be harmful, but it's enough for them to bleed. And if they don't like actual blood, she will use like fake blood. Interesting. Yeah. So apparently some people enjoy the taste of blood and like to incorporate it in the bedroom. I find that would be very hard to find someone that enjoys the blood but also find someone that's okay with being cut. Yeah, I feel like you'd have to kind of meet people on the blood play forums.
Starting point is 00:13:56 People who also enjoy that kind of thing. But it might just be a little sewing needle or something to prick the skin, you know, like the diabetes testing kits or something. Or some people, they like to do something a little sewing needle or something to prick the skin, you know, like the diabetes testing kits or something. Or some people, they like to do something a little more extreme, knife play, which doesn't necessarily involve actual cutting, but apparently they just enjoy the fear factor of having someone take their clothes off with the knife. It's like, ooh, you're going to cut me?
Starting point is 00:14:18 They might do a little bit of light scratching and not actually draw blood. But for people who actually do like to draw blood, they usually would do research beforehand because there's like safe zones that you can cut and it won't like fucking kill someone and then i don't know like the thigh or something yeah but then there's obviously danger zones like the neck i'm sorry you can't just go slitting people's throats for fun you can't it's just no good but yeah there's like a a. But yeah, there's like a diagram. There's like a human body online that I saw and it had like red zones. Wrists.
Starting point is 00:14:52 Yeah. And then like the green zones are like okay. Like it's less risky. Interesting. But imagine the cleaning up. Yeah, there'd be a lot. Well, I don't imagine they aim to get a lot of it involved. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:15:03 Also, imagine the discovery of that. Like are you just clipping your little toes one day and you cut too deep and you had a bit of blood and you're like, oh, I am. I'm hard. Yeah. Or like they've got a bleeding nose and they feel a bit of it coming through the back of their throat like they're sinus. And they're like, yummy.
Starting point is 00:15:17 Yeah. I don't mind that. Well, that's the thing. You know, we didn't even talk about it on the show. I don't know why we didn't. It seems very upper alley. The whole army hammer cannibalism. Yeah, that's what I was thinking as well.
Starting point is 00:15:26 Well, I saw a lot of threads online that was like, yeah, what plays is kink. It's fine. And everyone's like, don't kink shame. I'm like, I can get around that. But then he was taking it to the next level. But that was the first time that I was ever made aware that people actually get off on this.
Starting point is 00:15:37 Yeah, like there's a difference between blood play and Armie Hammer wanting to eat someone's heart and rip it out of their chest. That's a bit off. Yes, he wanted to eat someone's ear. rip it out of their chest that's a bit off yes he wanted to eat someone's call me old-fashioned i'm not into that interesting okay and then we have a couple more right yeah this one's from hannah hi it's hannah from the sunshine coast so when i was with my ex he had this fetish for me to wet myself when wearing it had to be jeans it specifically had to be jeans and one day it was the day my car had broken down I had to go to the bathroom because I had been sitting on the side of the road for three hours
Starting point is 00:16:09 waiting for RAC to come get me and he picked me up and then he ended up driving for two hours straight trying to tickle me trying to make me laugh so that I would wet my jeans because it really got him going and when I pulled him up on it I didn't know about the fetish at the time I found out like a month later and he told me all about it and it's got this name called omarashi yes it has a real name for girls wetting themselves but he's specifically in jeans at the end of the night he wanted me to wet myself in jeans and to the point that when it was his birthday he even asked me I was like what do you want for your birthday? He goes, I want you to wet yourself in jeans for me. I'm like, ew.
Starting point is 00:16:48 So, yeah, that's the story of how my ex basically forced me to wet myself like a toddler. I didn't wet myself, though, so. It's like a Netflix original series. I know. Funnily enough, didn't work out between those two. Yeah, I know. Oh, I thought they were really a good match for each other.
Starting point is 00:17:03 I think the important thing there is also consent. I mean, it definitely has to be consensual. Precisely. Driving someone around for two hours trying to make them piss themselves, not cool. But yes, she mentioned it's called omorashi, the Japanese word for wet yourself. Oh.
Starting point is 00:17:16 And people get aroused by the discomfort of a full bladder and they enjoy, like, the tension in the lead up. And then when someone finally pisses themselves, it's like a release. So there's kind of a sexual connotation. I kind of get that. I can understand. Yeah, but they also enjoy the embarrassment factor as well. So it kind of comes into the whole heel trampling thing.
Starting point is 00:17:37 Guys, communicate with your partners. If they want to kick, make sure you're okay with it. And if you wanted her to piss herself laughing, you should have played this podcast. Oh, my God. with it and if you wanted her to piss herself laughing you should have played this podcast oh my god all right finally just when you hadn't heard enough bodily fluid this last one comes from joel hey it's joel from perth and this wasn't me but one of my friends once had a guy ask her to sit on top of a glass table and do a shit while he's watching from underneath oh goodness me yep so uh this is what's called a hot carl, as I found out. There's a few variations of the hot carl. Either you can put cling wrap over your partner's face
Starting point is 00:18:12 while doing a shit in their mouth so that they physically experience the warmth and the shape of the turd. It's called a rusty trombone, that one. Oh, don't. Oh, I'm going to vomit. Or if you do it on their chest, it's called a rusty trombone, that one Oh, don't Or, if you do it on their chest It's called a Cleveland steamer
Starting point is 00:18:27 Or there's what we call the cold car Which is what he mentioned Which is sitting on the glass table While the partner enjoys the view from underneath While you do a shit Lay log right there on the glass Move the TV week, babe I'm feeling horny
Starting point is 00:18:40 Babe, where's the Foxtel remote? Remember we did the stinkyinky Cleveland last week? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's under the pile of feces. Hey, no king shaming. That's next level, though. That's a lot. Yeah, that is.
Starting point is 00:18:55 I don't understand fecal matter. I understand that, like, as a gayman, you are obviously toying with danger when sex involves that region where the shit comes from but I prefer to detach the two from each other. I prefer to not remember that that also serves that function. Yes, I completely agree. I don't want to watch someone do a shit. No. I don't.
Starting point is 00:19:16 Ever. Especially pressed into it's like when you go to therapy and they get a piece of paint and squash it between a folded piece of paper and go, what do you see here? And it's still like, but with poo. Yeah, I know. Goodness me. And so this one and a lot of the others,
Starting point is 00:19:31 I basically tried to find a clear answer of why do they like it? Like, what is it? And there really isn't a clear answer for a lot of them, but all the websites that I read did make clear that it's like, it doesn't make you a psychopath. Some people just, you know, have quirky kinks, and that's just the way the way their brains wired as long as it's consensual and you know you're not yes i completely agree as long as both or multiple parties are safe yeah more than two these days in 2021 um and the other thing is that a lot of these ones that i just read out all of the website said
Starting point is 00:20:00 that they're more common than you think because it's just like not spoken about so you never know there could be someone in this room that wants to confess to having any of those kinks. No, no one? I did want to pitch for the next merch, though, that we get glass coffee tables. And that's just a personal thing. Okay, no one wants to come forward. No, no. Well, thank you guys for writing in.
Starting point is 00:20:16 That was very nice. Very sweet. Is it just me? All right, this next one is a good friend of ours, good friend of the show, Abby Chatfield. We had her on the show and she was great, wasn't she? Yeah, she was. This was when she did not work for Arrival Network,
Starting point is 00:20:34 so we were allowed to admit that we get along. Now you guys are rivals, so that's fine. She'll never be on the podcast again. Yes, there's no bad blood between us and Abby, but contractually we hate her. And that's just what we have to say, you know. It's a T's and C's. We don't hate each other.
Starting point is 00:20:48 Our bosses hate each other. I love Abby. Anyway, this is Abby. I believe we were talking about anal. What happened with Abby? Yeah, she was talking about what she referred to as emotional anal at one point. This is back in episode 55. If you want to hear the whole thing, it was a great episode.
Starting point is 00:21:04 But, yeah, here's Abby talking about emotional anal as she describes it is it just me or is anal more intimate than vaginal well in my not that either You can. I've done both. Have you? Yeah, you know this. Which one's more intimate? Well, I mean, one requires preparation and thought and meal choices and it's not spontaneous. Yes. And then there's anal sex.
Starting point is 00:21:37 That doesn't make sense. But, yeah, I don't know. It's definitely way more intimate. It's more delicate. It's more, I literally, my ex and I used to call it emotional anal. Wow. And like I would cry during anal and be like, I love you. He's like fucking my ass.
Starting point is 00:21:52 But in the pussy, it would just be like, I'm your whore. Fuck me. Did you enjoy it the first time? Yes, because I prepared properly. I went to the Den in Brisbane, which is like a sex store, and there was a twink working. And I said, I want to do anal. How do I do it?
Starting point is 00:22:07 And he gave me the whole rundown and he was like, you need to enjoy it, prepare for it. Gave me the douche. Gave me like a training kit. What made you curious about it in the first place? I had like a boyfriend of like a year and he was like 34 and I was like. Did he suggest it or was it your idea? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:22:25 I think I like fingered my art. I know. I had autonomy in that. Okay. I think. Oh, sorry. That's your awesome rosé. And then he was like, here's a training kit.
Starting point is 00:22:37 The different size plugs. Yep. And then he said, and then he was like, make yourself come without anyone else. So like I had like a training. I had like a boot camp from Miss Twink. That's Twink. And then I did the anus. And then I come, like, now it's at a point where when I do anal,
Starting point is 00:22:51 I, like, have to stop myself from coming because it feels so fucking good. Do you know what I mean? That's good. And you don't even have a prostate because that's one of the perks of being a gay man is that that's where the G-spot is. The male G-spot is at the back door. It does make sense, doesn't it? You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:23:03 Yeah, it does make sense. It would be nice to get fucked in the ass as a man, but I think it's also like naughty. And also you put a butt plug in the asshole, your pussy's tighter and therefore it's... I actually, you mentioned the butt plug training kit where it's like small, medium and large, you work your way up.
Starting point is 00:23:19 So my mate Mitchell here, he's actually deathly afraid of receptive anal. No, I'm not afraid. I have heard this on the street. You have not on the whole street were you on. So Mitch has always been like, I'm the giver, not the receiver. And I said, no, what you need to understand is that as
Starting point is 00:23:35 the top, you can actually be the giver with the plug in the back door and it actually enhances the giving experience. Whilst receiving. And so I got him the small, medium and large kit. I haven't actually asked, have you used it yet? It's like baby's first butt plug. It's like all the three sizes.
Starting point is 00:23:51 I did, we went to try the little one. It looks like a push pop size for reference. Yeah. And I didn't get there, no. Wait, were you with your partner? Yeah. No, don't do that. What are you worried about?
Starting point is 00:24:04 I'm not worried. I just don't enjoy that. What are you worried about? Alone. I'm not worried. I just don't enjoy it. No, you do. You do. You literally need to lube it up. Also, were you shoving? I don't know what to do. Really?
Starting point is 00:24:13 Yeah. Were you shoving or were you twisting? Shoving. You were shoving. I wasn't shoving. I know. I can look with my eyes. Did you twist or shove?
Starting point is 00:24:21 It probably was more of a delicate shove. Yes. You need to do this. She's doing a twist. She's pulling probably was more of a delicate shove. Yes. You need to do this. She threw you a twist. She's pulling a cork from a blind barrel. And then in further. So do it on my own. And then encourage yourself.
Starting point is 00:24:33 Well done, Mitch. I just got you linen bed sheets and bed threads. Pat on the back. Well done. Pat on the prostate. Well done. Well done. And try and sit on it so your body weight.
Starting point is 00:24:43 Don't be like doggy style. Sorry, you want my body weight to put anything inside of me? You'll never see it again. It'll come out my nose. Usually when I get fucked in the ass, I start off by being, because I'm in control with a real human man. I'll start off on top because I'm like, yeah, I can control it. And then I'm like, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:24:59 I couldn't be on top. But of your butt plug? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. But what I'm saying is like for preparation, I just think you're a whole new world aerial star. Can I ask, do you switch between the vajayjay and the backdoor or do you just purely enjoy backdoor nowadays?
Starting point is 00:25:17 No, so I haven't had anal for a while. You know. Turn that off. Sorry, sorry, sorry. It's just been a bit of a pause for me. But you actually can't switch because if you put the pinos in the anus... It's like using chicken and beef on the same chopping board. Yeah, it's Gordon Ramsay, like, raw and cooked meat.
Starting point is 00:25:39 You know what I mean? Chicken and beef. So it's one or the other. Cross-contam. You get bacterial vaginosis. Yeah, that's not good. So you can go vagina to anus. You can't go anus to vagina.
Starting point is 00:25:48 And then you can't go back. So once you start... And they have to come. And also, once I come, I'm like, get the fuck out of there. Yeah. Like, as soon as I come, I'm like, no more time. So I have to hold off and not touch my clit. Because they can't even do this.
Starting point is 00:26:00 I come. But do you get... So do you make sure the guy always gets off before you because you know you get disinterested as soon as you finish no i'll just say you're gonna have to come when i say i'm coming you have to come okay time it do you know what i've decided mitchell i because i want to get to abby's deep uh next week on the show i'm gonna set aside time i want to do it's been a while since i've done an Idjim top five. Oh, it is, yeah. I'm going to do like a top five reasons why you should give it a crack. Because it makes me sad. It makes me desperately sad to think that there's so many men out there that will never
Starting point is 00:26:33 experience their own G-spot. Grow up, give it a go, and I'll tell you why. Would you like to add to the list? Another reason why? Yeah. No, as a woman, why should you give it a go? Why do you love it? It's just a bit naughty, isn't it? Yeah. No, as a woman, why should he give it a go? Why do you love it? It's just a bit naughty, isn't it?
Starting point is 00:26:48 Yeah. And it's fun. And also, you're a gay man. We're a bi man, pan man, whatever we are. We're fucking a man. Yeah, but I know it's there. It's not the chocolate in the pantry. It's like, I know it's there, but I'll just leave it for a cold night.
Starting point is 00:26:59 Okay, well, next week. What's a cold night tonight, darling? Go home. Very true. Is it just me? Don't forget to subscribe and leave a review on your podcast app. Or follow on Spotify. Oh, Cherry, do you remember this one back in episode 58?
Starting point is 00:27:16 We should get an update from you while we're here. No, no, I don't think so. Was this, I mean, is this what I think it is? Is this you trying to get me to delve into some some play i just wanted you to be more open for want of a better phrase um and then i took it one step further it was almost like an intervention i got sexologist camfrazer on to describe to you the top five perks of anal i don't know if he was sold even after that no it was very um confrontational which i don't doesn't work well with even after that No, it was very confrontational
Starting point is 00:27:45 Which doesn't work well with me, as you well know But no, I will say, and I think I have given an update on this But, you know, the cheeks have been spread And there is, you know, as Bob Catter would say A thousand blossoms have bloomed And it's not, you know, it's like peppermint tea I enjoy it sometimes, like after a really hot meal Or I enjoy it when it's cold, but a couple times a year.
Starting point is 00:28:09 It's not my go-to. I'm an English breakfast boy, if that analogy checks out. No, that analogy checks out. Okay. Well, congratulations. Wow. Thank you. Thank you.
Starting point is 00:28:18 Thank you. Thank you. So what you could say is this little intervention that I did actually worked. I did open you, so to speak. Maybe I'll open someone else today. Yeah. Hey, listen, if you're struggling with penetrating your prostate, 131065, give us a call and we'll get you on the pod. All right. This is Cam Fraser. Is he a sexologist? Is he a sex therapist? What's his title?
Starting point is 00:28:38 Yeah. He hosts his own podcast and stuff. So yeah, he was the man for the job. Yeah. Here it is from episode 58. It's Cam Fraser. Pigeon Top 5. and stuff. So yeah, he was the man for the job. Yeah, here it is from episode 58. It's Cam Fraser. Yes, you know me. I love a good countdown here on the show. And today it's all about the reasons that men should try anal. How long have you had this in the back pocket? Well, I've been saying for a couple of weeks now I was going to do this topic with you. You have. Because I feel like you don't really understand what all the fuss is about, even as a gay man.
Starting point is 00:29:03 No, I'm not fussed about it. I'm probably just, you know, we've got our role that I play in my relationship and we're very happy there. And it's like, well, I'm probably just, you know, I'm just going to keep pushing it off because there's no pressure to get it done. Well, no, I'm not pressuring you. Put it that way.
Starting point is 00:29:17 You don't have to do anything you don't want to do. Very true. This is actually, this can apply to anyone really, even females who are in a heterosexual relationship. Correct. After hearing this might think, hey, I might just slip a finger in next time. Very true. As I'm about to detail, there are perks to the backdoor action. So I couldn't think of five myself. I'm like, I need an expert to actually help me out with this.
Starting point is 00:29:40 So Cam Fraser, he's a male sex coach. And he's a host of his own podcast, Men, Sex and Pleasure with Cam Fraser. And he wrote an article for lovehoney.com.au all about the reasons that men should try anal play. So I've got him on the podcast today to talk about it. Hey Cam. Hi Cam. Hi. Hi. Thanks for having me. Our pleasure. So you like talking about anal, huh? Yeah. I think it's, especially as a as a straight dude i think it's really important for uh you know my demographic of dudes to talk about anal penetration and anal pleasure how do you tell your parents what you do you go mom and dad i'm an anal pro and they're like well as long as you're happy it's all over social media so uh they definitely uh they're definitely
Starting point is 00:30:18 aware of it so what sort of other topics do you do on your podcast? Because it's a whole range of things, right? It's just basically sex talk for men. Yeah, totally. Yeah, I talk about, I've had an episode all about food play and incorporating that into your, you know, both solo and partnered sexual experiences. Mitchell's eyes just lit up. I know.
Starting point is 00:30:38 I'm like, all right, Cam, I'm going to have to get your Instagram handle and we can talk off of you. I've got a room full of red rooster at the moment and a half erection. So I feel like we're getting there. What can I do with it? Very true. Okay, cool. That's exciting.
Starting point is 00:30:49 I'm really curious about that. Long story short, what's the, in a nutshell, what does food play? Okay, in a nutshell, push the pip out of a peach and stick your dick inside of it. Oh, call me by your name vibes. Yeah, wow. Yeah, sure, yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:05 Oh, my God. So start fucking a fruit pretty much. Yeah, sure, yeah. Oh, my God. So start fucking a fruit pretty much. Wow, well, I do that on a daily basis. Interesting. Yes, we're not talking about fucking peaches. We're talking about fucking the peach emoji today. Oh, yeah, very true. Now, do you think that particularly with straight men
Starting point is 00:31:20 there is a little bit of stigma around anal? They're like, oh, that's a bit too gay for me. Yeah, I think there's more than just a little bit of stigma around anal. They're like, oh, that's a bit too gay for me. Yeah, I think there's more than just a little bit of stigma, unfortunately. There's a couple of resistances that I find when I talk to guys, straight guys about anal play, and it's the – there's a fear that it's going to hurt. There's like they're afraid that it's going to be painful. There's some hygiene, you know, concerns,
Starting point is 00:31:43 and they're not sure how to do it hygienically. And then the big one is the fear of being, you know concerns and they're not sure how to do it hygienically and then the big one is the fear of being you know making them gay or being called gay or being thought of as anything less than a heterosexual manly man so like emasculated almost like it's yeah yeah this is this internalized homophobia for sure that a lot of guys have they want to externalize it and express it but when it comes to exploring that part of their body that's a big resistance resistance for them. And we've got you up on Zoom. We can see that like, you're a manly man yourself. You've got the rugged beard. Like you're not like secretly gay because you love anal. You're all about it. Even as a straight man. I appreciate that. I don't, I don't consider myself maybe stereotypically masculine. I don't fit that like alpha jock stereotype, but I, I say to say to straight guys all the time you know guys that are in heterosexual relationships anything you do with a woman is by definition heterosexual
Starting point is 00:32:31 sex doesn't matter what the act is that you're doing if you're doing it with a person it's like it doesn't doesn't matter what the act act actually is yeah and it's on the flip side there's mitchell here who just really does not give a fat rat. He's not really that interested in receptive. So I'm going to work through this. Let's go to the list. I'm going to work through this top five. I feel like you need to hear this thing again. Okay.
Starting point is 00:32:51 I need to hear my jingle. Yeah, we're not really in the countdown, but now we are. Number one, it feels really good, says Cam Fraser. You're kidding. A common myth about anal play is that it is painful. Sure, it can hurt if you go too fast, but like all sexual activities, Says Cam Fraser. You're kidding. A common myth about anal play is that it is painful. Sure, it can hurt if you go too fast, but like all sexual activities, if you go slow and do it right, you'll get better.
Starting point is 00:33:12 And that's when the fun starts. The anus is rich with nerve endings and elicits a completely different experience of pleasure compared to simulation of the penis. Mitchell, would you say that that's been an issue with the – because I did get you the training kit remember you are you dove in the deep end so to speak well i just before practice it's not very deep it's a shallow pond um it's not that i i just yeah i just don't see what i how i will get any uh any interest out of it because i'm very happy doing what i do essentially um but if there's if there's a wealth of pleasure out there that I'm missing,
Starting point is 00:33:45 then, you know, that is – that I'm open to. Okay. Correct me if I'm wrong, but you can actually – if you're the giver and you're enjoying your role, is that giving experience, that can be enhanced if you've got, you know, a toy or something up your own right? Yeah, totally. Yeah, the anus itself has a bunch of different types
Starting point is 00:34:08 of nerve endings which is really fascinating i want to get into the anatomy of it but we can experience sensations from pressure temperature roughness of touch as well whether it's smooth or whether it's like really vigorous there's all these different things and we haven't even talked about the prostate yet this is just simply like the the canal. And all of that can elicit some pleasurable sensations. So if you're incorporating, you don't even have to enter into, you don't even have to talk about penetration. We can just talk about like just massaging the rim or just using a little bit of lube and just kind of palpating or pulsing just the anal opening, because there's a lot of sensation to be had just from that. So yeah, so you mentioned the prostate, right? that's on the list too number two is it helps overcome stigmatization which we
Starting point is 00:34:49 touched on number three you can have prostate orgasms okay so you've written the prostate which is roughly the size of a walnut and is located about two inches inside your anus when pressed or rubbed the prostate is capable of bringing you to orgasm. You could say that the prostate is the male equivalent of the female G-spot. Now, the interesting thing about this is that we had Abby Chatfield in the studio a couple of weeks ago and she loves anal. And I was like, what's so interesting? They don't have a prostate. Yeah. Well, I mean, they still have all those beautiful nerve endings in the anus as well. So there's still a lot of pleasure to be had from that type of stimulation. um so either way you're you're going to experience pleasure the prostate which is something that can really only be stimulated through direct
Starting point is 00:35:35 penetration of the anus is um something that can really unlock male body people's experiences of pleasure it can take it to the next level. Interesting. Jenna looks like she's going to be sick. I know. Poor Jenna's got a red rooster hat on. She's about to spew into it. It's beautiful, but I know all about that. I mean, I'm gay for Christ's sake, and I do have gay sex.
Starting point is 00:35:54 I mean, I know all about the prostate, and things are being done, and I agree. Once you unlock that, it's like, oh, it's a completely different kind of feeling to its standard, you know, old-school 1920s jerk-off, you know, old school 1920s jerk off, you know. Oh, my God. It's like just jerking off or having sex is like having like a fine economy and then like you get the prostate involved, it's like, baby,
Starting point is 00:36:15 you're in business. You know, you get the champagne on arrival. Right. Well, it's a totally different experience. Like an ejaculation or an ejaculatory orgasm is mediated through what's called the pedendal nerve versus the prostate, which is connected primarily to the hypogastric nerve. You can have a prostate orgasm and not ejaculate. So you can have another prostate orgasm and another one and another
Starting point is 00:36:33 one and become multi-orgasmic because you don't enter into a refractory period. Oh my God. Oh my God. That is just, I'm writing that down. There's going to be no mess because I've spoken on this show about how much I hate jizz. And I said I'd love to live in a world where you could orgasm without making a mess. Oh, we've cracked it. Amazing.
Starting point is 00:36:50 I'm learning from this top five myself. Segment done. Thanks, Cam. I'm getting out of here. I'm going to have a toy and I'm going to be in bed for an hour. Now the next one, this one I thought was really interesting. I didn't know this. Number four, it's good for your health.
Starting point is 00:37:02 Prostate massages. It's one way you can help reduce your risk of prostate cancer. Massaging the prostate helps to clear the, oh, God, what is this? A prostatic duct. My Dyson does that, I think. What is a prostatic duct? Right. So our reproductive system has a series of ducts that transport prostatic fluid or seminal fluid to form our jizz. Wow.
Starting point is 00:37:30 And those ducts can get congested, right? If they're not cleaned out, right? It's cleaning the pipes. That's kind of where this idea kind of comes from. Wow. In terms of kind of sexual lingo. So doing a manual massage on the prostate can be really beneficial for releasing and relaxing the fluid that's been congested in there, that's been stagnant in there. And oftentimes this is what's called prostate milking. You're releasing that prostatic fluid in it.
Starting point is 00:37:56 Did you have to say milking? That's foul. This sounds great. That sounds fun. You know, in year six, I went and milked cows at the local farm. We should all be taken and taught how to milk ourselves because it's beneficial. And if it's helping us, my God, then that's brilliant.
Starting point is 00:38:11 And it feels good, right? Yeah, yeah, that's the benefit as well. It's the bonus, I suppose, is that it's good for your health and it feels good. Wow. Now, number five on the reasons all men should try anal play. This is the one any straight man should listen up to. It makes you a better lover.
Starting point is 00:38:28 When you learn how your own anatomy works, you will better understand the anatomy of others. If you ever want to get really good at penetrating, you need to know how it feels to be penetrated. There you go. Yeah, that's a big one, I think. Right, Cam? I can agree with that.
Starting point is 00:38:42 Totally, yeah. This is like you wouldn't do something to another person that you haven't done yourself already right that's kind of the principle behind this and um and for me personally and for all the men that i've worked with uh you know heterosexual dudes that have done this they have all come back to me and said i've got a newfound appreciation for how slow you need to go for how much lube you need to use for how how much patience you need to have for how much lube you need to use, for how much patience you need to have, for how much checking in you need to do with regards to how the experience is going.
Starting point is 00:39:11 They all translated that experience from themselves onto their partner and their partners then said, wow, you're way more attuned and attentive to the needs that I have. So your partner must just think you're the best fuck ever. Yeah. We've been together for a long time as well so we we do know each other's bodies quite well so they've really seen from you know beginning to to where you are now is the the sex buddha yeah um we're actually expecting our first child together her and i so when's that happening when's it uh that's uh We're 34 weeks pregnant at the moment, so it's within the next month, hopefully.
Starting point is 00:39:49 Oh, really? I don't know how the weeks work. I was like, what does 34 mean? But, wow, that's quite far along. That's really close. We're at the pointy end, yeah. Well, please let us know how you go. That's very exciting.
Starting point is 00:39:59 I think it's quite possible that you are the first cis white straight dude that we've had on this podcast. I think you are. Oh, my God. I think you are. Oh my god. Oh my god. Very true. We need a pause for that. Just on our behalf. Look at us go. Getting all the demos. Cam, before we let you go. We do have beautiful Sam.
Starting point is 00:40:15 But he fucking, God knows what he gets up to. I don't think he's fully straight. I completely agree. We're all there. Before I let you go, Cam, question. Do you have any advice or any sort of, I don't know, tidbits for lack there of a better term, about erectile dysfunction maybe in youth or maybe in gay men age? Are you having issues, darling?
Starting point is 00:40:35 No, I'm perfectly fine. My ducks are cleared. I may be talking about a friend that I know or a podcast co-host that I have who has had to get Viagra prescribed at the very young and youthful age of 24. I mean, any tips or any advice? Maybe Mitch's ducks need clearing and Jenna and I can help. Hang on.
Starting point is 00:40:52 We know that just for some background, Cam, I was put on antidepressants and one of the side effects is sexual dysfunction. Yes. So just in case there was any, you know, issues getting up and staying up in the bedroom, they prescribed me Viagra as well. And didn't Mitch just fucking sink the boot in? Every week on the podcast he was bringing it up.
Starting point is 00:41:12 He just couldn't get over the fact that someone who is only 24, not in their 80s, already needs Viagra. Oh, no. It's not like I made a segment called Viagra Update and checked in weekly to see how his penis was faring and how the blood flow was going. No, but it's very interesting. But Mitch also wasn't told that it took how many hours, three hours to kick in.
Starting point is 00:41:29 So he went on a hookup, popped a pill, and then he didn't get the stiffy until the guy, you know, went in a jiffy, if you know what I mean. Yeah, it only takes, it acts like an hour to an hour and a half. But is that something you've talked about in your podcast, erectile dysfunction, all that? Yeah, definitely. I've talked about natural Viagras as well. So if you're not keen on taking pharmaceuticals, there's other types of things that you can take to help with your sexual function but um you've got to listen to the podcast oh he's good oh he's good
Starting point is 00:41:52 i'll give you a little bit of advice a little bit of some tidbits here is to focus on what pleasure you're experiencing right so it's natural actually for erections to wax and wane over the course of a sexual experience for them to get a little bit firmer to get a little bit softer maybe to go flaccid completely and then to become erect again but then secondly if you do kind of lose your erection lose a little bit of firmness one of the ways you can start to just continue that sexual experience and maybe allow that erection to come back is to start focusing on what you feel with your hands start to notice the sensation of pleasure from touching your partner's body from touching your body focus on the pleasure rather than on that like performative
Starting point is 00:42:33 oh god now i don't have an erect cock now i can't do anything sexual yeah just bring it back to the sensation of pleasure that you're experiencing and oftentimes by focusing on the pleasure you'll start to enjoy yourself and by enjoying yourself, you'll allow the erection to just come back naturally and then you're able to be penetrative or do whatever it is that you want to do with your erect penis again. Cam, I know this is a podcast, but Mitch has just filled an A4 book. He's just been writing frantically.
Starting point is 00:42:57 He's run a bit kilometrico dry. He's just writing notes frantically. No, they're very good tips. That's great. That's good for all of us. I mean, we all go exactly like you said. I mean, you know, erections come and go. It happens to all of us regardless of, you know,
Starting point is 00:43:09 erectile dysfunction and things that are influencing. So great tips. And there's plenty more tips you can get on the podcast, Men, Sex and Pleasure, with Cam Fraser. Cam, thanks for coming on the podcast today. Thanks for having me on. I really appreciate it. Is it just me?
Starting point is 00:43:25 A podcast by a couple of mitches. Alright, now this is going back to my single days once again. Do you remember back in episode 38 and this was the first time I'd ever been kicked out of someone's house after a hookup? Oh my god, I remember this. You were quite upset about this, to be honest. I don't think I was
Starting point is 00:43:41 upset. I was definitely a bit shocked because I thought it was kind of normal if you've, you know, if you've just porked someone to be like, oh, you know, crash or you just fall asleep together. It was normal, but it sparked a bit of a debate. We had a listener coming on giving their two cents as well. So here's how that went. We've got Xander on the phone right now. Hi, darling. Hi. Hey, boy. How you going? We're so good. Now, Mitch, I've been chatting with Xander on Instagram and I've asked him to come on to do an Is It Just You. You ready to go, Xander?
Starting point is 00:44:08 Yes. All right. Hit it, Bradley. Is it just me or? Do you refuse to let someone stay over your house after you've hooked up with them? Oh. Because I don't understand the logic behind it. The logic behind the hookup or the kicking out?
Starting point is 00:44:29 Look, I know. Why would you let someone stay over, a random person in your bed? So you're a fan of a root and boot, are you? That's a fucking lily. Jesus Christ, it's a family program. So hold on, I'm confused. Mitch, do you agree with this? And you've just, like, how has this come
Starting point is 00:44:45 about? Well, it's very interesting that this has come up when it has, because I've only recently changed my mind on this topic, because someone that I hooked up with recently said to me afterwards,
Starting point is 00:45:01 in no uncertain terms, get the hell off my property, please. Oh, you were rooted then booted. And it was such. As any normal person would. Well, this is the thing. I got such a rude shock at first because every hookup in the past of mine before this, I'd stayed over either me at their place, them at my place.
Starting point is 00:45:23 And to me, it's not a big deal it's like the equivalent of offering a glass of water it's like oh you can crash if you want oh yeah most of the time there's no discussion where you don't know where that person's been i mean i know okay having said that you've just fucked them yes you do they've been in you you know exactly where they've been like where do you draw the line when it comes to exchanging germs? And so I used to be like, oh, it's fine. It's no big deal, which I still kind of believe. Like, I'm not fussy about sleeping. Like, I'll crash on someone's couch, whatever.
Starting point is 00:45:53 Yeah. It's not a big deal. You crashed on my couch the other week. Exactly. Like, I don't care. I'm not one of those, I have to be in my own bed kind of people, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah. But when I was evicted from the home recently.
Starting point is 00:46:06 Did Sonia Kruger peer through the window? It's time to go. Mitchell. You're like, what the fuck? But I was thinking to myself, I have lived with my housemate for a year now and he is, I've never once woken up and had someone that he's been hooking up with there the next morning. He's a normal person. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:46:26 He's like you, Xander. He likes his own space. Once he's done with them, he's done with them. As soon as we're done, I need them and their skin particles as far away from my house as possible. What do you mean by as soon as you're done? Yeah, like are we talking once you've both finished or are you very selfish?
Starting point is 00:46:42 Like you get off and then it's like you just take yourself and you, you know. No, no, not selfish. Okay. I mean, you can have a bit of a chat, but like just like go then. Like go. Go. God, you know what? Hold on.
Starting point is 00:46:54 Sorry. I'm going to do something. Hold on. Wait there. Is it just me? Could you not live with yourself if you kick someone out of your home after sleeping with them? I'd offer them a banana smoothie. I would watch a YouTube tutorial.
Starting point is 00:47:10 I will get the linen out. I could not kick someone out after kissing someone, let alone copulating with someone in my own bed. I thought you would feel that way. Having said this, my ex-boyfriend, the first time I met him was a hookup. And I let him stay over because I was absolutely just like taken aback. I was like, oh, my God, I want him to stay here forever. Right. Romantic.
Starting point is 00:47:34 That's been the only time ever. But other than that, get out. But what's the problem with it? You've literally had them in your mouth and in your orifices. It's literally my own insecurities. I just don't like it. It's my insecurities keeping them there because I don in your orifices. It's literally my own insecurities. I just, I just, I just, I just, I don't like it. It's my insecurities keeping them there because I don't want to be hated. Also, what I'm offering isn't exactly a 10 plus service, you know, so I want to make
Starting point is 00:47:56 sure they're happy with all the amenities because they might not be thrilled with what I was giving them. You know what I mean? You're such a people pleaser as well, Nick. I know. I knew that you were going to feel this way about this topic. I love that you've dedicated your origin to it as well. You're that passionate.
Starting point is 00:48:08 You would just make, like, breakfast in bed. I don't know. I mean, you kind of just came out of the closet and then you were basically married. So I know that you're not really that familiar with hookup culture, but I feel like you would be such, like, you'd probably freak them out with, like, the clinginess. They'd wake up and you'd be making pancakes
Starting point is 00:48:26 with them. Yeah. You'd leave a towel on the end of the bed. No, crepes, Jenna, crepes. Pancakes are too heavy after penetration. Well, the last time I hooked up with a woman, God, feels like eons ago, I did stay the night, but then I did also wake up with a
Starting point is 00:48:41 face full of blood. I think I've told that story, haven't I? Oh, did you get a bleeding nose? Well, that's the running theory, but we won't go into the other conspiracies. Oh, God. Yeah, yeah. And I stayed there with a bloody nose. So literally, nothing would stop me. But so did you, were you offended that he asked you to leave, Mitch?
Starting point is 00:48:57 At first, but then I thought about it, and I think some people's brains are just wired differently. People like my housemate, people like Xander on the phone. Like, I reckon that I think that you... I think myself, if I went to someone's house for a hookup and then just invited myself to stay afterwards, I don't like... Why would you do that? Well, I don't think you invite yourself.
Starting point is 00:49:17 I think it's just been coincidence that every time in the past it just hasn't been a thing. It's been like, oh, you can crash if you want. It's insinuated. I had someone come over and then we kind of finished and then they were like, oh, cool. So later tonight we can blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 00:49:32 Sorry, later tonight I have plans of laying in my bed alone. Yes, a mood. But you have to set boundaries. You do have to. So you said that the only person you've let stay over has been someone that you had feelings for. Do you reckon that's why people like you, Xander, don't like having hookups sleep over? Because they're that afraid of commitment.
Starting point is 00:49:51 They're like, oh, God, I'm leading them on. They're catching feelings. They have to get out. Yeah. I'm seeing a psychologist for this. You've just traumatized me even more. Because I'm the opposite. I'm like, to me, it's not like a positive sign or like,
Starting point is 00:50:06 oh, they must be into me because they're staying over. It's just not a thing. It's just like, you know, relax, crash if you want. Look, I am literally seeing a psychologist for commitment issues. For commitment issues? Yeah, so this could be, we might be getting too deep here now. Classic top energy, isn't it? Says Queen Bottom herself.
Starting point is 00:50:25 Oh! Have you two fucked? There's a weird energy in the room. I mean, Jenna, are you vibing it too? I am. This is creepy. We haven't fucked, just for the record. Right, but you two are the matching parts, you know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:50:39 Anyway. It just feels awkward. No, oh, please. It's totally awkward if you make it awkward. You kick him out. All right, well, thank you, Xander. You're on the Central Coast, aren't you, Xander? I am on the Central Coast.
Starting point is 00:50:50 Yeah, no, that's too far for a rootin' food. If I'm not allowed to fucking stay the night, I'm not going to bother. Yeah, I'd still kick you out if you came up here. Oh, you two are bloody disgusting. Why don't you find someone to marry and you should start thinking about morals? Oh, God. No, thanks. Well, thank you, Xander.
Starting point is 00:51:04 Appreciate it. Thank you, guys. Oh, God. No, thanks. Well, thank you, Xander. Appreciate it. Thank you, guys. Happy fucking. You stupid. See ya. Is it just me? All right, since we're talking all things sex, how could we possibly look past the moment, Chiri,
Starting point is 00:51:20 that someone wrote a fanfic about you and I hooking up? Listen, we get often asked this. That is the number one question I get asked about. Have you and Mitch, was there ever any love romance? Yeah, it's weird. I don't know why people ask if we've hooked up before. We haven't, no offence, probably never will. But anyway, this fanfic will describe what possibly could happen
Starting point is 00:51:39 if we were to hook up, I suppose. Last week on the show, we were talking about fan fictions, right? Yeah. As in erotica, that people write about people that they're fans of. Correct. So, for example, someone might write a dirty novel about, I don't know, Hagrid and Dumbledore. Yeah. They let their imagination run wild.
Starting point is 00:51:59 And so, we asked our listeners to send in some fanfic about you and I, Mitch. Oh, God. So prepare to be uncomfortable because I've been sent some fanfic and it actually came from our good mate, Talisha Veskio, who, as you know, Mitch, used to be the co-host with me on my old podcast, Not My Cup of Tea. Do you want to hear it? She actually sent it in as audio.
Starting point is 00:52:26 Oh, so you don't want any porn music or any sound effects? It's all sorted? No, no, no, it's all sorted. Okay, great. I'm really excited. I haven't heard this either, but she gave me a heads up. She said, you're going to feel uncomfortable listening to it. Mitch, I don't think I'm going to be able to look you in the eyes,
Starting point is 00:52:41 if I'm honest, while this is playing. Oh, well, thank God I'm working from home. I know. All right, let's roll this fan fiction for Mitch Coombs, Mitch Turi from Talisha Veskio. I'm ready to hear. Hello to the couple of Mitches. It is Talisha.
Starting point is 00:52:57 Welcome to your fan fic or your worst nightmare. Let's get into the reading, shall we? So the trio had finally finished what could only be described as the most disastrous recording of the Is It Just Me podcast. From the very beginning, everything was going wrong and Jenna only added to the stress by offering less than usual to the podcast. That's accurate.
Starting point is 00:53:24 Sounds realistic. As soon as the recording ended. Thanks for listening and we'll usual to the podcast. That's accurate. Sounds realistic. As soon as the recording ended, Thanks for listening and we'll see you next week. Bye-bye. Jenna abruptly got up from her stool and announced, I'm going to get a tea. And Coombs excused himself to the producer's booth to calm down. This left Turi alone in the studio,
Starting point is 00:53:41 who was stressed and feeling flustered from the ordeal. He wiped a single bead of sweat from his forehead and licked it off his finger. His finger lingered there for a moment and he slid it between his lips. His eyebrow shot up and he realised he was getting quite quickly aroused. He swirled his tongue around his finger and closed his eyes as he rocked back in his chair. He placed his free hand on the desk to stabilise him as his erection grew in his jeans.
Starting point is 00:54:17 He pulled his finger from his mouth and traced down his body and unzipped his fly in one fluid movement. Wow. He knew what he needed to do to relieve the stress in his body and unzipped his fly in one fluid movement. Wow. He knew what he needed to do to relieve the stress in his body. What? He wrapped his hand around and held it against his body. You're wanking. And he slipped a slight moan from his lips.
Starting point is 00:54:36 At that moment, Coombs suddenly looked up to the speaker and realised the microphone was on. Coombs lingered in the producer's booth for a short time and his mind began to wander should he tell him should he leave him alone or should he join him no my god he's done he stood up and made his way to the studio door where he peered through a glass panel to see churi completely exposed with his leg up on the desk. He was curious and was beginning to get aroused by the scene unfolding in front of him. No! Coombs tried to get Churi's attention
Starting point is 00:55:15 from outside the door, but realised he needed to go in. Oh, are you done? He lightly pushed on the door and entered the room. Churi was startled and tried to cover himself. It's okay, said Coombs, leaning against the door with a smirk creeping over his lips. He moved towards the desk, biting his lip. Churi looked shocked but was now feeling more intrigued. Coombs looked into Churi's eyes, searching for permission, and he climbed aboard his lap, straddling Churi's around. Get off, get off.
Starting point is 00:55:52 He lingered there for a split second, one hand guiding Churi to his entrance and the other pulling down the fader. Just turn the fader off, Coombs whispered, before letting Churi inside him. Oh. Just turn the fader off, Coombs whispered before letting Churi inside him. Coombs rode Churi like a horse from the farm and dug his nails into his chest for stability. Guys, I think we need to re-record.
Starting point is 00:56:26 That was an absolute disaster, quivered Jenna, flinging the studio door open with a cup of tea in hand. Coombs clambered off Churi and flung his bare body against the wall in an attempt to hide, but it was too late. Oh, no. Jenna stood opposite Churi, who was still exposed. Oh, fuck. What's going on in here? So that's, that was that. Wow. I hope you enjoyed it. Oh, thank was that. Wow.
Starting point is 00:56:45 I hope you enjoyed it. Oh, thank God it ends there. Thank you so much for coming to my reading. Well done, Talisha. Well done. Very good writing. Very good. I'm so uncomfortable.
Starting point is 00:56:57 Yeah. I'm just going to turn the webcam off for the rest of the show. We don't need to. That was a bit of movement, I'm not going to lie. We don't need to It was a bit of movement, I'm not going to lie So if you guys didn't quite keep up with the story In a nutshell, Mitch was wanking in the studio And I just decided to hop on board
Starting point is 00:57:13 And I was making a tea Yeah, and I was trying to search for your entrance Why in that story was I the most disgusting beast Deciding to jerk off after tasting my own sweat, which I think was a real plot flaw. And it said single bead of sweat, which is not me. It's entire surface of body sweating. You're always drenched. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:34 There is a real, like she really lingered on the fact that you were a bit of a creep. In the studio. I'm not the creepy one. I just helped myself. But you were the one that was wanking in the first place. True. You're fine. You just saw an opportunity that I'm sure you've wanted to do since the day you met me.
Starting point is 00:57:51 And fair and fine. I think the biggest plot flaw is that Jenna storms back in the studio and says, Guys, we need to re-record. This was a disaster. If this was real life, I would have turned to her and said, you're not the boss here, bitch. I'm having a ride. Is it just me?
Starting point is 00:58:11 You can follow the show online. Just search Couple of Mitches. If you don't, you're a dickhead. All right, well, that is us done. Best bits number three ticked off the list. We only have two more of these to go and then we're back. Next week's a big one, I will say. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:25 Well, this is one of your favourites and this is a segment that you created, Mitch. We're doing the best of Talkback Tings. I mean, how do you narrow it down? Talkback Tings is not only one of our favourite segments, but our listeners' favourite segments as well. So we've had to narrow down some of the best Talkback Tings we've done over time. Yeah. Yeah, it's going to be jam-packed with good shit, I promise. Well, if you're new here
Starting point is 00:58:45 and maybe you've only heard one of our more recent talkback tings we've been doing it since the start of the show way back when it's years old so mitch and i mean i work in radio mitch that's how we met in radar radio station we love oh boy we love am radio talkback radio i've been listening to a lot actually mitch when i did the brekkie stint in december i would listen to am radio in the morning so i have some freshies when we when we start season five but talk back tings oh yeah oh god i actually have some plagiarism from another radio station from our podcast but hold that stop it yeah so we have to wait until we're back for season five for all that yeah i'll it's a long hook this is a couple weeks maybe the first episode back we can do a Talk Back Tings
Starting point is 00:59:25 and I can play for you what has been plagiarised from our show on another network is all I'm going to say. Well, let me tell you that during the drive out to Bogangate when Sean and I were in the car, oh, my God, we took so many notes. I'm like, that'll be good for Talk Back Tings. That'll be good for Talk Back Tings. I think I've converted him into hate listening to Talk Back Radio because there were some fucking cooked callers coming through that whole trip.
Starting point is 00:59:48 It was just wild. So I can't wait. Talk Back Tings will be back with it, Vengeance, in Season 5. All right. But next week we're going through the back catalogue, the best of Talk Back Tings, best bits, Episode 4. We will see you then, guys. Look after yourselves.
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