Is It Just Me? - DRAG RACE DEBRIEF: Faúx Fúr 💃

Episode Date: August 1, 2022

Catching up with the eliminated drag queen from Episode 1, Season 2 of Ru Paul's Drag Race Down Under, Faúx Fúr - plus we hear from Michelle Visage!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Is it just me? A podcast by a couple of Mitches. Don't fuck it up. Well, here we are. Welcome to Drag Race Debrief, everybody. Hi, Mitchell. Hello, hello. Here we are with a special edition of the podcast. A little bonus episode we're going to be doing every Monday for the next few weeks because there's a brand new season of RuPaul's Drag Race Down Under, Season 2. I was at the premiere the other night.

Yes, I was at the after party at the premiere the other night. I missed the first half. I know, you missed the actual episode. And so we're going to be catching up with the drag queens as they are freshly eliminated from the show and dropping these little bonus episodes here on the podcast. And today we're also going to be hearing from Michelle Versace because you spoke to her for your radio show. I did, I did. And this is an exclusive. She only spoke to one radio show, one TV network, and then a couple of print stuff. So this is like the only Aussie chat she did for the show. Do I embarrass you?

Do you think that I would disgrace myself in the interview if I did it too? Well, I did pitch you and I. Oh. And apparently she vomited on her iPhone. And I said, I'm so sorry. Just do the radio show. It was horrific. All right.

Well, first, let's chat to the queen who got sent home in episode one. I'm pretty shocked at who went home in the first episode. By the way, spoilers, if you haven't watched the episode yet, we're obviously going to be spoiling who went home. Yeah, if you don't want to know who went home, if you haven't watched the episode yet, don't listen to this now. Listen to it later. Bye.

Thanks for coming, though. See ya. We never really have stated the fact that we want – actually, we did say, I think, that we want this to be like a book club. So we all want to be on the same page. So watch the episode when it comes out, Saturday or Sunday, or even Monday morning, and then you can listen to this as we release it. It'll be perfect.

Yep. You stream it on Stan and then you catch up with us. Well, what did you think of the episode? Because I know you're new to the drag race world. I've been very in it for years. I've watched every franchise, Ripoll's Drag Race, bloody Tasmania at this point. Did you like it? Do you like the season? Yeah, well, I haven't really

watched much of the franchise outside of the Down Under. I watched last season of Down Under, and already I think that season two is off to a stronger start. I feel like we're in for a good season, and that's in my expert opinion. Yes, of course. The first couple seasons,

first season actually had some criticisms. The lighting was a bit off, the mics sounded like the microphone was in a different room. They finesse. There were some teething issues apparently, but yeah, I couldn't tell. But I really enjoyed it. I think this crop of queens, normally when you watch Drag Race, you go out first, out second, out

third, you can sort of pick it. But at this point, I'm going to say my frontrunner. Why don't we both say our frontrunners? Then we can look back at the end and see how close we got. Hanaconda is who I would want to win. Actually, no. Mini Cooper or Hanaconda. I'm the same.

Hanaconda or Mini Cooper. I think Beverly Kills. But also, I kind of want them to get eliminated so that they get to come in studio and chat with us earlier. True. Oh, yeah. True. Well, I mean, we will have the winners and they'll be in a great bloody mood.

Beverly Keels looks too mean for my liking. I'm not afraid of her. Which is weird because I actually have met Beverly. Yeah. Beverly was part of a comedy lineup. The very first time I did stand-up comedy, she was also in the lineup. Oh, when you did that comedy drag bingo night. Yes.

Bingo. The switch up. There was no bingo. And yeah, she was gorgeous. Absolutely lovely. No meanness whatsoever. Did not realise that she was as young as she is. 21, right?

Well, she would have been 20 at the time. I had no idea. But anyway, she's safe for now. She's still on the show. And much to my surprise, the person that was booted off in episode one was Faux Fur. And she's come along to visit us here in the studio. Fofa is here. Hello.

Hello, darling. Oh, my God. Oh, I forget you're loud. I'm going to pop your mic down. Why would you do that? You're going down. No. Going down.

No. Scream now. Yeah, that works. People can hear that. Can they? Oh, that woke me up. That was like a coffee. No, that was really nice. I do feel alive now with that energy. Like can hear that. Can they? Oh, that woke me up. That was like a coffee. No, that was really nice.

I do feel alive now with that energy. Like a cold shower. Could you imagine that I was like, they're listening to this in the car and I caused car accidents because of a scream? Oh, it wouldn't be the first time on this show. Oh, my God. I love it, though, because you came in all guns blazing in that first episode. You're like, I'm just going to put it out there.

I'm the loud one. Yeah. I'm the loud one. And I thought, okay, she's not going anywhere. She's going to be here till the end. And I could not believe it. That was a wrong prediction as well. Yeah, because I thought, you know, you're such a character.

And I thought, and there were so many like memeable moments, like quotes that you said. Oh my God. That moment at the end when you realise you're in the bottom two potentially and you sit down and the girls go, how are you? You go, I'm fine. And then it cuts to the confession and you go, I am crushed. I am devastated. Oh, the dual? You go, I'm fine. And then it cuts to the confession and you go, I am crushed.

I am devastated. Oh, the duality. Yeah, stuff like that. And so I thought, yep, she's going to be here till the end. And I'm like, I know you can't say anything, but this is just me thinking out loud. I'm like, they're going to bring her back for sure. Yeah, that's what I thought.

That's what I thought. Trying to read the body English over here, not giving anything away. The arms are crossed. I might come back who knows tell me did you keep those controversial black panties that they kept banging on about oh yes i did and i'm probably gonna burn them if i ever get on all stars and be like they're back yeah did you have tan panties with you i had every colored panty with me but it was just the hardest thing because everything

would happen so fast right we were designing and everything and then all of a sudden it was like i was i haven't really fully unpacked yet so i was like where are these underwears and i had like suitcases to go through and i couldn't find any so i was like okay this will do and then like looking from the mirror and i was like okay not visible i actually didn't notice them until everyone kept banging on about it to be honest honest. Well, like, the thing was the funny thing was, like, I even asked the girls, do I look okay? Sabotage. Shady bitches.

Yeah, what did they say? They're like, oh no, you look fine from the back as well. Because I asked them how I looked from the back and they're like, yeah, you look fine from the back. And I was like, hmm. And so was that your first time when you watched the episode of the premiere the other night? Was that the first time you saw the panties from the back? Yeah.

Yeah, girl. And you were like, you bitches. I know. I was like, y'all saw behind me because you were all at the back of me. Can I just say, though, that your look, I thought, when they were going through the girls, could have been top. That was a good look. And what did they all crap on about that it was all one colour?

Like it was all a bit too neutral and a bit Ouija-y. But that's trend, isn't it? Like the monochrome look. Yes, it's so in. Colour on colour. I thought you could have been in the top, but that's just me. I thought so too until I, well. Pantygate.

Fucking pantygate. Fucking pantygate. What about the hat, the thing that kept flopping down? Did you think that was going to make the cut, that blooper? When you walked in on your entrance? Yeah. I didn't think that was going to make it because I wanted to go in there like all fierce and fabulous

And then that thing went So is that a bit shady you think? The edit maybe a bit No I actually enjoyed it It was funny No that's what I mean I loved it I'm like yeah such a character

These funny moments She'll be there till the end But bullshit I'm furious I'm absolutely furious How many times do you walk in? Because we watch and you go Oh they'll do it once

But no the magic of TV is that you probably walk in 100 times. Probably. Yeah, like twice. I did mine twice. And the hat fell. Twice. Twice. I was like, let's just get rid of this hat.

Do you get to pick the order you enter in or do productions say you're going in second? They pick it. Wow. So I'm just a product. I just like, they're like, okay, your turn. And a gorgeous product at that. Thank you. Did you have fun? Because going home first, I guess just a product. I just like, they're like, okay, your turn. And a gorgeous product at that. Thank you. Did you have fun?

Like, cause going home first, I guess, and you know what? Going home first is better than going home second or even third because everyone remembers the first and then by the second episode and the third, it's like who, what order, but first and the winner, you always remember. I had a lot of fun. Yeah. Like a lot of fun. It was crazy cause it went so fast. Like it went so fast and in a blink of an eye, I'm back fun. Yeah. Like, a lot of fun. It was crazy because it went so fast.

Like, it went so fast, and in a blink of an eye, I'm back here. Yeah. Was there, like, a lot of waiting around, though? That's what I think about those sorts of TV shows. It's very slick and polished and narrow-ended, but I feel like there'd be so much fucking around waiting for the production to be done. I didn't mind.

I just catched a nap whilst I could. Did you actually nap backstage? Yeah, well i to keep me quiet they had to put food in front of me so all you could hear on my mic was me crunching on chips and apples and like a schnitzel just to shut me up because they would they would tell you to like be quiet whilst they're filming things and you're just like did you get those notes from producers did they tell you to quiet down like were they it. It's fun. But a bit. It was just protocol.

Right. So like, I know I can't keep my mouth shut. Yeah. And I know that if I'm with the girls, I'm just going to keep talking. Yeah. Because the mics are on you. Mind you, my mic had to get turned down quite a lot. We did the same today.

Yeah. We empathize with production. But yeah, I want to talk. So I just had, I was like, if you guys want me to be quiet, just put food in front of me. Food. Gorgeous. That works for me. When I'm in a mood, Mitch just does that.

He puts a barbecue chicken on the table and I'm set. I just talk for about 12 minutes. I had like a whole pack. Oh, yum. You know those little packets of 12s? The chips? Yeah. I ate all of that on my own.

Gorgeous. And then all the girls would be like, where the fuck do you put it all? And I'm like, I don't know, maybe because I don't shut up. Yeah. This is where I lose the weight. You burn it off. Yeah, by talking. By talking, yeah, it works.

Now, what was it like with RuPaul? Because do you get much more time than we see? Does he come in at the start and go, hi, chookers, have fun? Or is it really the moments that we see on TV when he does the workroom and when he does the judging? You get moments with him a lot. And he's just amazing. Like, I gagged seeing him five feet away from me,

and I was like, oh, my God. He's literally in front of me. He's tall, right? He's so tall. Really? Yeah. I don't know why that shocks me, because he doesn't look like a tall person when he's out of heels.

No, but when you, yeah, because in Dragon, in the heels, in the wig, you think it's a normal-sized human, but in real life, that's like seven feet. Fuck. He's tall. Wow. And he's just got a beautiful aura about him like the moment he walks in the room he just pursuits that motherly like feeling and vibe and it's crazy because he just keeps us calm i don't know what it is about him but like the moment he walks in we're all just like the old wise and old yeah literally literally it all just like. The all wise and all known. Yeah, literally. Literally. It was just like, how do you have that type of presence?

Also very rich. You know when you meet a very rich person and they have that presence as well? True. It's like that money. Not all rich people have that type of presence. I reckon if I was to be a rich and famous person, which I am. Yes, of course. Of course.

I keep forgetting sometimes. That you're so rich and famous. Well, I'm not rich. Yet. One day It'll come But yeah I think I'd be like The complete opposite I am a

I will be honest I am a fun and a messy queen And if people are like Don't like messy queens Well then it's all that way You know Yeah I like to have fun

I like to have a few drinks I like to make sure That everyone else is having fun And if that makes me Being messy Then girl that's on you. Well, I did have fun at Pooftoff on Saturday. I saw you on stage.

Oh, my God. Are you getting a lot more gigs after being on the show? Yeah, a lot. See, you are becoming rich. There you go. She's got to hustle for that money, honey. So will you be doing more gigs if people in other cities want to see you? Definitely.

Yeah. Definitely. What time are you on? Because I need to know. That night's a bit of a blur to me. What time was I at Pooftoff? I was on at two. Oh, my God.

No wonder I was so hungover the next day. I was in the early stages of REM sleep. I was out to it. Yeah. I go to Pooftoff once a year and it's like Christmas for me. It's an event. Otherwise, I'm too tired for that, you know. But you guys do it.

I can't. What type of gay are you? I know. Mitch says the same thing But I go once a year I'll tell you what type of gay he is He literally fast tracked To like the elderly gay

He came out Got a boyfriend And just like Became a hermit In the space of a month I was like That's cheating You've got to go through

All the single years Of being a mess You've got to do the hard yards No but I'm kind of like you Because I've got a partner as well And I kind of grew into Why would we call this? We need to figure out what type this is.

Yeah. Because I don't get fascinated from a bottle of like Verve. I get fascinated looking at the furniture at David's. Thank you. Oh, my God. So good. You fucked yourself up, Mitch. We are the same.

I'm the same. And I'm like, if I can get a device that can cut onions half the time, girl, I will buy three of those, stock them, and then buy five more of those. And that's Christmas presents for everyone. See? And I'm here for that. Fofo's only at Pooftoff because it's business.

It's work. That's what she does. That's true, actually. But I enjoy it. Yeah. Being a drag queen is something I didn't think I would do ever. Really? Never.

I never thought I would be a drag queen. How did you fall into the dress, so to speak? So how did I land it or fall into it? Obviously, our legal age is 18, so I've never gone to the club ever. And I didn't even know that there was gay clubs when I came out. Where are you from? I'm from New Zealand, but I was raised here. Yeah.

But obviously when you're younger, you just don't... came out. Where are you from? I'm from New Zealand but I was raised here. Yeah. But I, like, obviously when you're younger you just don't, school doesn't educate you about, like, being gay and being who you are and stuff. You start at Stonewall and then you end up at Ard. That's how it works, boys and girls. But you know what I mean? Like, I got out of school and I was like, what the hell is this world?

Like, bills? Yeah. Rent? Tax? How to pay for my groceries I'm still coming to terms with all that shit quite frankly but do you know what I mean like they don't teach you

any of those lies no I agree when I went to my first ever gay bar I was at midnight shift and then I saw is that heaven now no that's universal oh right okay

and I saw this beautiful queen and I was like that's it who was it do you remember the queen? It was Charisma Belle. Oh, isn't she gorgeous? She's the first drag queen I ever met as well.

And she just like grabbed me and held me to her pussy and I felt safe. She's such an angel. We love her. So then how did you get into drag? What was the experience? Well, after seeing that, I was like, oh my God, that is so glamorous. I want to do it. And then also I was like where are the asian queens there was no asian queens when i first

started like when i started i was probably the only asian queen for four years on the strip yeah working on it and it was hard because like i was classified as a token not anymore like thank you that the asian community Is growing and everything But it was like There wasn't inspiration That I had to look up to Besides charisma And so you became that

And yeah I was like Give it to me I'll hold the fort Oh and you had nice messages Of people Like looking out Going oh my god

Seeing you has made me Want to do drag Or feel better in my skin Yeah I have plenty of that Like Ever since the show's aired It's just been really Lots of love Lots of care It's really nice's aired, it's just been really lots of love,

lots of care. It's really nice to see that there's a lot of younger Asian people being like, oh, my God, you're just like me, loud and obnoxious. And I'm like, yeah, there's a lot of us out there, and I'm glad I get to represent that for everyone. Now, there's one very important question that we ask all of our guests. I feel like you could actually be perfect for this. All these queens would be perfect for this.

Based off what you've just told me, the fact that you get off on, you know, onion choppers or whatever, we have a list of things better than drugs and dick, and all of our guests add a thing to that list. And what we mean when we say that is just a little thing in life that you appreciate. Well, I have one on the weekend that I can add, which will help you come up with your answer. I thought about it. So things better than drugs and dick add to the list.

Shopping centre or food court sushi. It's perfect every time. I reluctantly write that on the list. It's short. The sort of things that are on the list now are like, you know, a really good crunchy apple or like fresh bed linen, that sort of thing. Better than drugs and dick in my mind.

KFC. I feel like it's been on the list three times, but bugger, I'm putting it down there. Add it, add it. I love KFC. Or, I got this new thing from Kmart for $12. Gotta love Kmart.

Shout out to Anko. What is it? What's the brand? Anko. I love Anko. We are the same guy. I know how to make sushi the old way with the bamboo stuff. But then Kmart brought out this device where it makes the perfect sushi roll. Yeah. And instead of rolling it, you just put the rice into this tube and then everything. And then you just push it out and the rice and all the fillings inside it.

I've seen this on TikTok. And I was like, I just made sushi in less than five minutes. And it works? And it works. For 12 bucks? Mm-hmm. Shit. Okay, yep, that's going on the list.

That could be a good addition, even like a good Kmart haul, like a Kmart shop. No, no, I'm going specific. It's the $12 sushi maker. Kmart sushi maker. Okay. With your name signed next to it. Yep, it's on the list. Legit, though.

It's ridiculous. I was like, why are they making these things? It's out of control. Kmart is heaven. I know. I keep going in there and I keep buying things and I need to stop. I was like, you go in there and you're like, no, I just need bedsheets. Walk out and you're like, how the hell did I spend $1,000 in Kmart?

Yeah. Why do I have a porcelain dog doorstop? It always happens. You get those random shit. I went in the other day just to get some active wear and came out with like a back massager, which just looks like a huge vibrator. I didn't even get the active wear. You could probably use it on there too.

You know, it's probably the same thing. Don't be foul. You could. I'm just saying. I'm not that desperate, darling. Now, I want to ask before we let you go. Let's talk competition. Who, because I'm sure you probably know, but who are you picking to go all the way?

Who's your top four? I can't say anything. Who do you want to get to the top four? I'm not allowed. Oh! This must be really rough for you because you say that you love to talk. I know. And then you're absolutely gagged.

You can't actually say anything. Hold on, hold on. Susan from Stan PR. Susan, say hi. Hi. We love you. Can she say who she thinks should be in the top four? Absolutely not.

Susan! You can't ask either. I actually didn't ask because I read what we weren't allowed to ask. Good on you, Mitch. I've just read, Susan, that I love you. That's all I want you to know. Oh, she's furious.

We won't get you in trouble. We won't. Don't want to cause any dramas. I know. I love to be the pitiful drama. Y'all know me. I sit in the corner with popcorn just watching all the other bitches fight.

It's great. Let us be the naughty ones. You can be well behaved. Well, like, I love drama because I remember back in my days when I was a bad bitch. When I was a bad bitch.

Still a bad bitch. Yeah, I was going to say when. I used to cause drama and then pin it on someone else. Smart. Nobody would ever expect it. And I'd just sit there like, you deserve that bitch

for sleeping with my boyfriend, you dumb bitch. Oh, okay. In that case, yeah, I deserve it. Oh yeah, gotcha. Get your revenge, girls. In that scenario, go for it. Oh, yeah, gotcha. Get your revenge, girls. In that scenario, go for it.

Well, it was so good to meet you. You were so fun on the show. And fingers crossed for All Stars one day. Right? I can't wait. Fingers crossed. And bring back the black panties. I will bring them back just to haunt everyone.

Make an effigy. Burn them on the main stage. Literally, and they'll be like, you can't burn it on set. Oh, sorry. Too late. All right, we'll see you at Stonewall. See you at Stonewall. See you on all of Oxford Street.

All right, I also caught up with Michelle Visage, who obviously judge extraordinaire on Drag Race Down Under, has been best friends with RuPaul for decades, and has been on almost every, all but two, I think, seasons of Drag Race. So this is me and Michelle Visage in an Australian interview exclusive. Oh, my goodness i think it's only it's only right to be playing this so welcome to the show the one and only queen of

the girls the gays the days it's miss michelle visage hello my queen i bow down oh wow i'm not worthy you so are take it take it and run we run. We love you. How are you? I'm good, Mitch. How are you? I am really, really good. I'm great. I'm so excited for this. I'm obviously a gay man.

I mean, the hair, it gives it away and the extra button. It's quite clear. But I am such a fan of yours. I'm an admirer. And I know as an ex-radio broadcaster yourself, you are one of my all-time faves. It's a pleasure to have you on the show. How are you? Oh, thank you.

Us radio brethren have to stick together. We get it. Those eye bags, there's a real type of eye bag that a radio announcer gets. You know what I mean. It's tough. Indeed. And I only did breakfast shows for 17 years. Was it that long?

Yeah, 17 years. I got up at 3 o'clock in the morning through two pregnancies. Jesus. It's not enough coffee. There's not enough coffee in the world to make breakfast radio livable. It's rough. Did you do that with Rue? Did you do a show together for a period?

Yeah, so I started in radio in 96 with Rue, and Rue stayed on I think for like three years. We had a little syndicated radio show together for a minute. And then Rue left New York to move back to L.A. And I stayed in New York and carried on doing radio there before I went to L.A. and then did radio in L.A. Uh-huh. You know, it's funny. A lot of like I was reading Jimmy Kimmel, a book with Jimmy Kimmel,

and he started in radio. It's a good place to learn the roots, don't you think, and really get the showbiz bug. You got it. Hey, this is so fun. Obviously we're here to pump up season two of RuPaul's Drag Race, down and out, which is coming to stand later in the year. How does that feel?

Do you love the Aussie queens? Is there a difference between Aussie and the U.S. and now the U.K. and the world and Thailand and there's so many franchises? But do you love the Aussie girls? I always have. I mean, some of the, you know, one of the homes of original drag is in Australia, obviously. And the way Australia does drag is different to New Zealand,

which is different to the UK, which is different to America. That's the beauty of drag is regionally. It's done different everywhere. So I love to see how each queen does their drag and that's the fun of it. Yeah. And we've got Priscilla and I mean, it's just the drag culture down here is, and we've got such a small city, like in Sydney and in Melbourne, the cities are so small that drag shows are so accessible. And like you have a couple of drinks out on Oxford street in Sydney. You stumble upon a gay bar. You got drag queen. So I'm so glad you're getting a part of that.

Do you guys film here in Australia? Are you in New Zealand? Can you reveal that? We film in New Zealand. Lovely, lovely, lovely. That's exciting. Did you get to experience the Kiwi culture of New Zealand? Yeah.

I love it here. I've gone to Australia a few times and I've never gone to New Zealand before we started filming here. So I love to travel and it's been such a fun experience being in a place that when I tell people I go, they're like, oh, my God, that's on the bucket list. So a lot of people love it down here in Australasia. They love, you know, a lot of Americans, Australia and New Zealand have been on their bucket list. So it's it's just a lovely place to be, both of those countries. Yeah, it's stunning. And we're glad to have you. It's hard for drag queens, though.

It's very hot, very hot and humid down here in the lace front. Very hot for drag queens. That's indeed. But worth it. So worth it. Season two is very exciting. We're very pumped for it to be coming back to stand. That's it with Reese Nicholson. He's coming back, I believe. Reese will be there and you and Rue.

Yes, we will all be there. And you are going to freak out when you see the lineup. You are going to absolutely lose the plot with this season. Honestly, if you thought season one was good, wait till season two. We're pumped. We're very excited. How does it feel to kind of be the fairy godmother of the gays? I mean, I feel like every gay man has three big moments in their life. It's when they come out, they have their first gay experience, and then when they're first exposed to Michelle Visage. They're the big three. I am known as the fairy gay mother. It is my honor to be her. And listen, love is the most beautiful and precious thing in this world, right? So if,

if people look at me like that and they look at me like a source of trust or safety, then I'm here for it. I wish I could be that person that a lot of these kids don't get to experience growing up because of the obvious reasons. And if I can be that as a surrogate, then it is my honor. And I take that duty very seriously. Where did it come from from you? Did you have like really accepting parents and aunt? Or was there like a teacher?

Was there someone that was a beacon in your life that made you think that is how I need to be? You know, I always had a very accepting parent, you know, my mom and dad. I think it comes from the fact that i was adopted and being an adopted kid you start life on a different path right being in foster care and then going into my you know my parents adopted me very young but still you know once once you're an adopted kid there's always this feeling of um not being wanted and i think I don't ever want anybody to feel alone or feel that they're less than or not loved or not worthy.

So I feel like it's kind of my path in life as an ally to let every gay kid out there who questions their validity or if they matter or if they're loved to know that it may not seem like it, but they absolutely are loved. Even if it's by me from afar, somebody cares about them. Or read them to filth because that's an equal part of the love experience. See, that's my job. That's my job. That's not who I am as a human.

That's my job. I'm trying to make it all nice and you're trying to bring it down. No, I would never. You'd be able to claim some good shit on tax, Miss Visage. I mean, your job title is so expansive. You could be like, yeah, yeah, claim the lace front wig, the lips. Who knows? You can claim it all.

Yeah, I've tried. That doesn't work. My CPA doesn't go for that. I do try. I even try to claim my nails. I'm like, my nails are part of who I am. They're like part of my identity. It's like, sorry.

Okay. You've just got to start. We'll see you in the next season trying to get more and more in the shot like putting your ankle your toe ring in the shot and claim it all i want to know as a drag race fan is what's the tea the podcast you did with rue coming back i love that show you know we haven't talked about it coming back um and it's not for any reason except we stopped it during lockdown because of obvious reasons and then people were able to get their stuff up and running but you know with the delay and everything it's so difficult so now that we're back to working i haven't we haven't really discussed it but it is time for us to sit down and have that conversation about it yeah good it was so

much fun to do and we did many many years of it and absolutely love doing it so thank you for asking that well as a radio guy it's like oh yeah i love the podcast i love the audio i was hooked on it you got me hooked on um magnesium free or natural deodorant which is the most stupid thing to say in an interview but you said it once and now i only use natural deodorants because michelle visage said it once on what's the tea i am so proud of you it's actually aluminum free um you still need magnesium in your body, so please. But it's the best thing in the world to switch over to that. You're giving your body a break from all that crap and regular deodorant. So I'm so proud of you for listening.

I'm sure you stunk for a while, but if you stuck with it, you got through it. That's why I work in radio. I'm in an air-conditioned studio. It's perfect. I never sweat. So maybe that's the only reason my boyfriend's still with me. I want to know, as someone who makes stupid jokes for a living, do you ever get home from recording and on set, you've got these crazy recording schedules,

and obviously hilarious, the puns are coming hot and heavy when the girls are walking down the runway. Do you ever think of a pun, like when you're at home, like, you know, taking your shoes off for the day or making dinner and be like, shit, I wish I said that? Did you just call my jokes stupid? That's the highest form of compliment i promise i'm only kidding i'm only kidding um i can't tell you how many times even sooner than that like we'll

wrap and i'm in the dressing room going oh my god why did and i've even asked the producers listen i'm a producer on the show can i please do a voiceover and you dub it in and they're like, no, Michelle, no. I got voice notes. I'll send you a voice note. Add it in. Many, many times. You have no idea. That's gold. Is there something that Rue does, because you guys are lifelong friends,

that just cracks you up, that gets you going every time? Like, you know, you've got jokes with your friends that make you just melt. Is there a look that he gives you or a line that he says that will always make you crack? Oh, I don't know if there's a line that he says. There are things that we've done over the years that kind of hold the test of time. And it really depends on the mood that we're in, but we can just look at each other because we are the, the, the duo that finishes each other's thoughts and sentences, but there's, we can just make each other laugh with a look, you know, you know how it is with your best friend. All you need to do is

do that sideways glance and you are busting up yeah yeah and i love that you can always pull him back in what was it the other day the coffee enema i don't know what franchise it was but he was and you were just like it's the coffee enema guys you know you're being the best friend going it's the coffee that one with coffee like he'll go on a three four quad he'll do like oh i had three quad shots. And it's like, Rue, your heart's actually going to stop. So you need to stop doing it. So when he goes on one of those, it's like, I just, it's like up top.

You pull the string and let it go and you can't do anything. Great TV though. Great TV. Think of the ratings. Just let it crash. Let it crash and burn. It'll all, you know, die down down but it's so much fun i love when he gets on a caffeine so do we so do we um now i want to talk about you uh hosting wendy that's

cool look at you go you're such a natural host you did it with your pal leah remini would you do that full time do you have do you get wendy in australia i i'm a gay man. I get Wendy wherever I need it. Oh, okay. You know, Leah and I have been BFFs for 20 years. And when we first met each other, everybody was like, you two should host a talk show. So it was always our goal. And we had pitched it over the years. I remember going into agents and they're like, well, how is it different?

And it's like, because we're actually best friends. Usually you put people together and then you hope it has. Thank you. So at the end of the day, nobody got it. And then when this happened, Leah was the one who went to bat and said, okay, I'll do it. But Michelle's going to do it with me. This was a perfect opportunity. So yes, that was a very long way of saying that is our ultimate goal of doing that every single day yes you are so good at it and you're right you can't buy that chemistry it's the same in radio you'd know it you get thrown together with all these

people all the time and you cannot buy or make the kind of chemistry you have with leah so uh would you do something on your station do you have a wacky morning show with like 10 people? I think you've been on them. Kyle and Jackie O. I think, yeah, we have Kyle and Jackie O. Oh, yeah. They're kind of legendary for their shit talking. Yeah.

Yeah. I do nights. So it's just me at nights being an idiot in there in the morning. But it took years, I'm sure, for their chemistry to gel or to figure out, you know, whether or not they were made for each other. Then they started making all the headlines and doing all that stuff. And that's why they're there and they'll be there forever because they're good together. Amen.

Amen. You get it, Michelle. You get it. You just know, you know, you're a pro. My question was, would you host, would you do a show like a talk show yourself? You'd be fantastic at it. Of course. Of course I would.

Again, everybody that's done radio and you can back me up. They're lying if they say that a TV talk show is not their ultimate goal. Like in my head, I was like, oh, I'm the next Oprah. I can solve any problem. I can do this. Obviously, that hasn't happened yet. So, Oprah, if you want to produce it, I'm here. Um, but that's every, every person that is in radio or is in, you know, entertainment of some sort in the's guys rupaul just walked past it's radio you can't see rupaul just walked past uh oh my god roxy andrews just walked past steering wow roxy andrews in in australasia a little steering shit um all right i want to ask very quickly before i let you go i want to give you some aussie slang terms and i want you to do your best at decoding. I'm going to fail that. I think you'll be fine. As a radio goddess, would you like some stupid game show music?

You can say no. Yes. Oh, of course. I need a bed. Give me a bed. All right. All right, Michelle Visage. Right.

I have to pay a lot of money for these royalties, but that's fine. It's Michelle Visage. Let's do it. All right, Aussie lingo. Let's start with Ranga. Michelle, what do you think a Ranga is? Ugly. Well, it depends if you like redheads or not, because Ranga is a redhead.

Oh, I love redheads. No. I thought it was like, you know, the UK has mingers, so I thought it was like a minger. Yeah, minger. No, Ranga is redhead. All right, next. Durry. Use it in a sentence.

After this interview, I'm going to need a durry. A drink. Or a cigarette. Close. Close. No, not close. But they go hand in hand. They go hand in hand.

Both vices. What about bangers and mash? Bangers and mash is sausage and potatoes. Yeah, she's got it. Do you like sausage and potatoes? Yum. I don't eat the meat, but I do love a mashed potato. Okay, close. Alright, last three.

Bogan. What's a Bogan? Michelle Visage. Well, a Bogan, I don't know how to say Bogan without it being offensive. She's good. But isn't Bogan, again, how do I say it without being let me say it for you um is is redneck offensive um to some people um but that's you know what you can say yeah of course um yeah well i i'm a bogan let's say that mitch cheery is about that i think i would be too i

think i would be too same there you go all right shoey you know what a shoey is michelle the shoey is um somebody who's like a shoe in like a ringer like no you got this job sadly no sadly a shoey is uh it's an act that you perform at a party and you pour a beer into a shoe and then you drink it from said shoe. Why would anybody do that? We did it to Harry Styles when he came here. Lizzo's done a shoeie. Miley Cyrus has done a shoeie.

We really bestow it upon our internet. Did you do the showie at a Bogan prom? Yes. Yes. See, she got it. That's it. Not a showie. You did a shoeie at a Bogan prom.

Yes. Yes, you would. There you go. She's got it downoei, not a Shoei. You did a Shoei at a Bogan prom. Yes, yes, you would. There you go. She's got it down. Pat, well done, Michelle Visage. You can get her Santa. No, that was not well done. I failed. Oh, well, I don't want to piss you off.

I think you did right. I wanted you to fail. It's better. I failed. Michelle, I love you. I think you're a superstar. You just got a phone call. Is that Rue saying, get back to set?

No, I'm not filming right now. So that was somebody who didn't realize that I was on the computer. But, yes. Listen, we cannot wait for Drag Race Down Under Season 2. You, RuPaul, Reese Nicholson will be there. And can't wait to have you out on our shores and back on our TVs. It was a pleasure. Honey, thank you so much for loving our show. Thank you so much for being unabashedly you and being out on the radio,

which is not an easy thing to do. I appreciate you putting yourself out there, and thank you so, so much for having me. It's a pleasure. It's late night. No one listens, so they all think I'm straight anyway. That old chestnut. Thank you, superstar.

We'll talk soon, okay? Lovely to meet you. Thanks, Mitch. All right, we'll catch you again next Monday, idiots. And don't forget new episodes of our regular podcast, Is It Just Me, every Monday morning as well. That's right. See you then.

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