Is It Just Me? - DRAG RACE DEBRIEF: Minnie Cooper 💃

Episode Date: August 22, 2022

Catching up with the eliminated drag queen from Episode 4, Season 2 of Ru Paul's Drag Race Down Under, Minnie Cooper!See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

But I think they did me a favour, sent me home as well, because mentally I wasn't coping. Oh really? No, not at all. Yeah, because you said that you felt isolated by the group. In what way? What were they doing? Is it just me? A podcast by a couple of mitches.

Don't fuck it up. Hi everybody, welcome back to Drag Race Depress. Welcome back, we're into week four now. I just gotta say, this episode, Hannah Konda finally got the fucking recognition she deserved. At long last, I was worried too, because sometimes when they set it up at the start, like, I need a win, they don't get the win. But she did, and well deserved.

Although, close second was Yuri. I think Yuri Guy could have won Snatch Game. Oh my god, Yuri's absolutely stolen my heart. What a sweetheart. I love his dry wit. And just, like, so unexpected. I did not expect any of this from you, a guy. Totally. I also didn't expect this week's Elimine to be

the person that went home, in all honesty. I mean, no. I do think it was her time, though. I think she ran her course. Ran out of petrol, so to speak, for Mini Cooper. Yeah. Spoiler alert, it's Mini Cooper. And the reason I thought they'd keep her around is for the drama.

Because there were some weeks where she didn't even win or lose challenges, and she was still the queen that was most talked about. I think the thing is, though, she had pissed everyone off. So I think- Well, not everyone. I think the edit would have you think that. But I know what you mean. I know what you mean.

Because she's not afraid of confrontation. And every week it was a different person. There was Aubrey Have and then there was Pamara Fifth and then this week it was a little bit of tension with Beverly Keels but not too much to be honest. Well, the common denominator in that was Minnie. Not saying it's her fault but she was definitely in a lot of the drama. Quickly to talk about the episode, Snatch Game is I think everyone's

favourite episode. Better than the first season, because the first season was trash of the Down Under series. So bad. Yep. So this is what I've gathered is that everyone was like, oh, good. It's Snatch Game week. This will be good. And then the reaction from everyone I've spoken to has been, oh, that didn't hit the clip, did it? Well, this time around was good. I actually was disappointed in Spanky. I wanted more from Barry Humphreys.

I would have liked a better Dame Edna. There wasn't that much. But I thought that RuPaul didn't like other people impersonating other drag queens. That's what I thought. But you know what? Did you notice they didn't call her Dame Edna? It was Barry Humphreys. So maybe that's why.

And I was like, that's clearly not Baza, just his normal self. Well, who else didn't I like? NeNe Leakes was shocking. Who? From Queen Kong. The housewives. The housewives character. Well, who else didn't I like? NeNe Leakes was shocking. Who? From Queen Kong. The housewives. The housewives character. Oh, right.

Yeah, that reference went right over my head. Nothing there. So that didn't do much for me. But also, like, guys, if you're going to do a queen or do an impression of someone from another series or another show, we have to have seen it, you know? That's why the Liza's are good. Because even me, who's not a Liza fan, knows what a Liza impression is. Yeah, exactly.

And I just think that, oh, poor Minnie. She did Ellen DeGeneres and it just kind of fell on deaf ears. Like no one was really giving her the laughs or anything. It was just crickets. And I would just absolutely die if Michelle Visage flat out said to me, yeah, no, that wasn't funny. It wasn't funny. It didn't make me laugh.

I'd be like, oh, my God, I can never recover from Michelle Visage saying that to me. It would be so bad. I mean, because you haven't seen all the US franchises, but the ones that always do well in Drag Race are the queens that add like an extra hat on top of it. Like they'll do Ellen, but they'll do Ellen at a funeral or Ellen reveals that she's not actually gay.

Like they always give them a fake storyline. Right, okay. So how funny would it have been if it was Ellen, but, you know, she actually has been living a lie that she's not actually gay. Like they always give them a fake storyline. Right, okay. So how funny would it have been if it was Ellen but, you know, she actually has been living a lie that she hasn't been gay her whole life and she's actually straight. Hilarious. You know, they add an extra bit to it, which I think is why Hannah Condon did so well because it was Liza

with just a speech impediment, you know, in a weird way it was. I felt a bit weird laughing at that. I was like, isn't Liza like battling a bit? Yeah, now she is. But Liza has always been zany and nuts and the scatting and the so I thought it was really good and I think you're right. Hannah deserved

the win and her runway was my favourite. I loved it. On the clown. Cirque du Soleil. Did you see the editing fail that went viral? So when Hannah was on the main stage getting feedback from the judges they cut away to a reaction from one of the other queens in the background and you can just see Hannah standing behind them. So she's gone from on the main stage to standing at the back

in a matter of seconds. Oh, I didn't see. Yeah. People really like to pick on Drag Race Down Under for just little fails like that. Can I just say, I don't know what was going on with the mic quality this week, but there was one confessional from Minnie that sounded like it was recorded on Apple voice notes. So bad quality.

It could have been. They're like, oh fuck, the mic's gone flat. Get me iPhone. Truly. It was bizarre. Yeah. Wouldn't surprise me. Anyway, listen, we should cut to the chase because we have her here, the eliminated queen,

Minnie Cooper. Yes. She's come to visit us in studio. And she isn't, if you, for those who are outside of Sydney, you might not know, Minnie Cooper is a drag institution in Australia. Yeah, like to me, because I'm a Sydney gay, she's the Minnie Cooper. You know what I mean? She's absolute drag royalty in Sydney.

Top three drag queens. She's been doing it for 20 years. If you've been, if you've had a drunk night on Stonewall or on Oxford Street, you will have seen Minnie Cooper either on the stage or in the gutter. She's also the second oldest drag queen to ever compete in Drag Race ever. I didn't know that. So not the oldest. They really focused on that, the ageism thing.

I know. And she was also one of Australia's Got Talent, I think. She did quite well. Yeah, back in the day. So this is not her first taste of reality TV. No, I mean, she's here with us now. Minnie Cooper, the wonderful, the glamorous, the very tall. Minnie Cooper is here.

Hello, Minnie. Hello, darling. And you know what they say about tall girls? Big personality. Oh, God, yeah. Isn't that. And you know what they say about tall girls? Big personality. Oh, God, yeah. Isn't that bang on? I didn't realise how tall you were. You were walking and I was like, oh, she had to duck through the door.

Yeah, I'm six foot five in heels. I'm six foot without. Hey, no swearing. Thank you. I'm a lady. So sorry. Oh, no, we are allowed to swear here. How dare I?

If you want to drop an F-bomb, please do. I drop more than F-bombs, darling. Oh, keep them coming. As we learnt. Can I just say, like, for all the intents and purposes and everything that's floating around online, what you brought to Drag Race was exactly what I want out of Drag Race. And what's that? Drama.

No, good television. You know what I mean? Like, really good TV. Yeah. It was entertaining. Are you proud of what you had on Drag Race? I'm proud of some things, not proud of others. Yeah. But, you know, I think proud of some things, not proud of others. Yeah.

But, you know, I think it sees me as a fully round human person. None of us, I'm flawed just like everyone, and just more of my flaws were shown than most. Who do you reckon the heat's going to be on now that you're gone? Because surely they're going to have to hyper-fixate on someone else. Well, because that's what I find really interesting about that environment because I think I was the person, because it was very much the young kids and me.

Yeah. And I didn't even realise until the show aired that I had Kong and Spanky on my side until I saw the confessionals because you don't get to talk. Because once you're in that workroom, you're working and then you're on the bus and you're not allowed to talk. Yeah. And it's a very small amount of talking.

So I had no idea I had even had that kind of support. So my reaction is to this group of people. I don't know if anybody else would react the same or if it was just me, but it was almost like a retaliation of what I was getting. And to watch, it's very hard for me to watch because I'm like, oh God, I can see why they didn't like me because I don't like me either. Yeah. I feel like I'm a little bit like you in the way that if there's any sort of conflict, I just like to nip it in the butt, nut it out, just so that there's no risk of anyone festering

and getting bottled up. And it's interesting that you say that. In the very first episode where I was talking about Aubrey's costume, we're walking to the runway and you don't see any of this. They were actually talking behind my back. And I go, if you've got a problem, talk to me about it and I'm happy to discuss it. Then you see me come into the workroom and I've got this real confrontational conversation see but we don't

have the context you don't have the context so i look like this crazy old white man that's always ready to go yeah no it's tricky because i do sometimes think mitchell pick your battles pick your battles was there anything that you were like oh maybe i shouldn't have said that anything like that yeah definitely the thing in the last episode with Beverly. Okay. Because I think also, too, at that point, I really was at the end of my, I wasn't in a great mental space at that point because I really wasn't talking to anyone.

I was really on my own. And what happened prior to that is that they were saying, well, Minnie, you're bitching behind people. And they were all at me. So I was like, okay, if I'm not allowed to bitch behind someone's back, why are you allowed to do it? And that was where that comes from. But I don't know if that reads on television.

It just looks like I'm throwing Beverly under the bus, which I did. I actually didn't think that there was too much tension between you and Beverly. She seems quite fond of you. Oh, I actually love Beverly. And you know what's interesting that you didn't see on the show either is that I actually confronted them all. I go, okay, if someone's got a a problem can just the one person speak to me because whenever someone had a problem it wasn't just I've got a problem mini let's talk it was everyone having someone

with them is that because of I'm an older person and people can't stick up for themselves am I really that scary I think I'm pretty scary do you think some people do find it scary Mitchell do you find it just when you've got a little not you but me when i'm a little bit assertive he gets he does find that scary i think people don't know how to cope sometimes and i suppose that's the thing that i've had to being assertive yeah my i don't know i really don't know what i am to be honest i think i've lost my train of thought you are yourself and you like i said the end of the day it was entertaining yeah i don't care i'm watching a. You know, it's not a retirement village. You don't have to be civil.

And that's the thing with Beverly, because I actually asked the group. I go, who? And Beverly goes, oh, I'm not one of the people that was joining the group. And it was like an aha moment for me. I was like, oh. And other people owned up, which I won't say who they were, because we've made up since. And it was really like, oh, you... And then Beverly and I had this really nice moment,

which didn't air on TV, and I apologised to her. I said, I misunderstood you. And we came to a place of understanding. Both of us were going through something, me being the oldest and her being the youngest. We were both going through a similar sort of thing. Yeah, because you could see her turmoil of not performing to the level that she expected to on the show.

Exactly right. So you had that shared interest. Yeah, somebody on the ground trying. Yeah. And I would have liked to have seen that shared, you know, trauma really be unpacked. Yeah, and that is a moment that you didn't see. And Beverly and I actually discussed that after the episode. I said, oh, how did she get feel?

And she goes, I was disappointed at what they didn't show that moment between you and I actually showing each other respect. And I've been actually sticking up for Beverly online because she's been trolled a little bit about giving her opinions. I was like, she was asked her opinions and she gave them. Leave the poor kid alone. She just gave her opinions. I step on my out together. She thought it was terrible.

Good on her. Good luck to you, Beverly. I'm team Beverly. Yeah, no, I think that a lot of people misread her a bit. She seems quite lovely deep down. But then like any other queen on the show, just has the capacity to be shady and that's the whole point. Well, and the thing is, do you know what I like about Beverly?

She speaks her mind and I do as well and that's probably why we actually like each other. Oh, my God, Beverly is you. 20, 30? If Beverly's like at 21, I never said boo. What never said boo what's better when she's 50 oh shit that's very true actually um all in all like drama aside did you enjoy the experience what i noticed with you minnie was that you and rue there was a mutual respect from rue that i got that too that rue showed to you that i don't think she showed to other queens and i agree with that was my

favorite time on the show like And there was another moment. There were three times I had chats with Rue and there was another walkthrough. It was after I'd had my altercation with Aubrey and we'd made up. And then Rue goes, oh, Minnie, you're hence asking me, always asking me, me and the conflict, always asking that question.

I said, oh, Aubrey and I have made up. I said, when I started drag, I was told I was unwatchable. I don't know what Aubrey's worried about. And then Rue pisses himself. He says, Minnie, you should release an album called Unwatchable. I said, yeah, started drag, I was told I was unwatchable. I don't know what all we was worried about. And then Rude pisses himself. He says, Minnie, you should release an album called Unwatchable. I said, yeah, can't wait not to buy it. So it's really

funny. And we just, it's seeing the humour in the trauma, I suppose. Yeah. And we share that, I think. There was a moment on premiere night because it was, I was there too, and it was the drag queen's first time seeing the episode. Is that right? Yes. And then the Q&A on stage afterwards. You were a bit emotional, which I do love.

You wear your heart on your sleeve. And there was something you said along the lines of some of these queens did something I would never do to anyone. What was that in reference to? Because I was keeping an eye out the whole series. And do you know what? They didn't show it in the edit actually. Oh.

Yeah. What was it? It was when I wore the HIV dress. I went to talk show it in the edit, actually. Oh! Yeah. What was it? It was when I wore the HIV dress. I went to talk about it in the Untucked. And they were, oh, you spoke about that on the runway. And actually, it was more for me to say. And I wanted to share it with the group about these people, of our past and our history.

Yeah. And I thought that was disgusting. Yeah. That's what upset me. It wasn't me and anything like that. They didn't let me speak about these people. The reason why they're allowed to be on Drag Race is because of those people that passed. And I wasn't being able to share that.

And that, to me, was heartbreaking. And so were they just making jokes or throwing shade? No, they weren't making jokes. It was because I think it was that thing of because I was like Byrou and I do talk a lot. But let's face it, we all talk a lot on that show. And it was just I don't think they did it intentionally to be malicious, but it was really hurtful. Yeah, right.

And I think it wasn't the time to dismiss me. No, there's a time and a place for that. And there wasn't that. That runway was gorgeous. Right? It's a shame I'd lost so much weight. Yeah, your tits were. I like your tits.

Now, wasn't that an accident, the nip slip? Oh, totally. But you know what's interesting? It's funny. Legs and Tallulah, their tits were always out as well. Oh, really? It's almost sort of weird that that sort of happened with that dress. It's Abby who made the dress for me, was really good friends with them.

And he said, well, they always had their tits out as well. So it's almost like it was a sign. It's in some strange kind of way. I love that. If you don't follow Minnie on Instagram, go have a look. Because you put up photos of your sisters and that was beautiful to see. Especially after watching the runway. Gorgeous story.

Yeah, and they really joke about dying on the same day and they did. It was just, I think it's such a powerful story to tell. I think week three was definitely the best one in terms of the runway. What was the runway? That was the dress. Red to filth.

Oh, red to filth. Because every other week, fuck, they have made it hard. Like there was rubbish, insects, and now like clowns. Why is that? How do they make it? That's not easy to work with. Actually, I think the insect runway is one of the best they've ever had. You reckon?

As far as the Australian. For what it is. Dressed like a bug. No, you're right. For the Aussie. For the Aussie. I agree. I think it was.

Don't you think Yuri's. Incredible. Oh, my God. Yuri is extraordinary. Please tell me Yuri is as adorable in real life because I've just fallen in love. Do you know what? I've fallen in love with Yuri. Yuri's one of my favorites.

And coming out of her shell as well. I'm loving watching the journey. How great was she at Snatch Game? So great. Absolutely brilliant. And so funny in the Chain the Roach Challenge. I know. I actually stood up for Spanky and Yuri because they And so funny in the Chain the Roach challenge. I know. I actually stood up for Spanky and Yuri because they were so funny.

Like, they were really hilarious. I also love that Yuri just kind of, she's really shy and, like, doesn't quite believe in herself, but then she just kills it. Do you know what? She's silent but deadly. Yes, 100%. Those competitors always go very far. Yeah, yeah.

And Yuri, I'm a Yuri fan, like 100%. Yeah, I love her. You've said that you've mentored a lot of young drag queens over the years, one of them being dear friend of our show, Alright Hey. Yes. I've got to ask, what was Alright Hey like as a young drag queen? She's fantastic. Very super talented.

I can't even remember what Alright Hey's drag name was. It wasn't Alright Hey. Wasn't it Alright Hey? What was it? Well, that's what his stage name is now. I can't remember what his drag name was. He loves branding. He's shameless. Wasn't it all right, Hay? What was it? Well, that's what his stage name is now. I can't remember what his drag name was. He loves branding. He's shamelessly full of himself, so it's probably just all right, Hay.

He'd be the only drag queen to not have a drag name. Do you know what's really funny? You know how people laugh at RuPaul having all these people on his show and then she forgets their name? I'm one of those people. That's all right. Because I've mentored over 100 drag queens. Oh, wow.

It's something I put together because they used to have these talent comps where the kids would get up and they would get ripped to shreds. So I put together, it was like my pay it forward. I'd get 12 kids that were new at drag and I'd get them together for half an hour every week and I'd work on their performances. And to see them grow with having a supportive network instead of just, oh, we want to laugh at you, you'd see these kids just within 12 weeks, talent would grow. It was really, it was like my pay it forward.

Well, you know what's crazy? And you have to be applauded for this, Minnie, because Drag Race has done so much for drag. It's brought it to the world eye. Everyone's talking about drag. But even 10 years ago, 15 years ago, it wasn't as celebrated as it is now. And you have been doing it pre-Drag Race days.

And it was really interesting. This came up today. I said, because what was sad that I didn't get to share on the show, which was spoken out in my confessionals, was what it was like being a young boy in the 70s growing up as a gay person doing drag. It's very different. There's a lot of shame involved with that.

Like the only gay thing I ever saw was Rocky Horror Picture Show. And it's just a very different journey for someone that, and what I do love about Drag Race, and I don't regret any of the kids idolizing people on Drag Race, because they get to see themselves. And I think that's an extraordinary gift. Well, something you didn't have, right? Other than Rocky Horror Picture Show. I didn't have that at all.

Do you feel like a lot of people start out with the goal of going on Drag Race? Because I feel like it'd be like that for singers. You know, someone can sing really well. Everyone in their life goes, oh, audition for The Voice. I feel like that's the natural. Well, that's better. If someone's a drag queen, they want to do drag race. Yeah.

Well, that's my whole thing. I did drag because I love drag and I love performing. And in the scene at that time, Sydney's scene was thriving. We'd have all these production shows. Now people do drag to get on drag race yeah they don't actually learn the craft of what it is to do an acting challenge or choreograph a routine it's just about getting onto drag race so do you feel like that's where if someone's starting out that's where they shouldn't go wrong yeah they should learn the

craft of drag as well as learning how to do great makeup. Can you sew, though? Can you sew? I learned how to go. I did learn how to sew, but then I was sewing that because I had freezer bags. And when I was sewing, it was ripping. So I thought, oh, I'll just staple it together. And it worked. Well, did it? No, can I say, that was chic. The TV?

Were you holding a TV? Yeah, because people asked where did I get the TV? It was in the rubbish. and I just took it. And I was like doing RuPaul, what do they call them, RuMails? Oh, yeah, yeah. And they went to take it away and Yuri was like, oh, don't take away Minnie's television, she'll kill you.

Can I ask something? I've watched interviews with US queens from the US franchises. They say that they don't get provided any phones, you can't have internet in the room when you go back. But they give you porn. Is that true? Did you get porn? Darling, I haven't watched porn since the 70s.

And I was only 14 then. What sort of porn do they give them if it's not on a phone? It's a CD or a USB, I've heard. It's funny that you say it. I think it was Yuri that was talking about that she was watching herself in the mirror while she was watching porn. I seem to remember that conversation. That'd be a nice sign.

That'd be all right. What did you think of, for that last lip sync battle, what did you think of the song choice? Because I was like, oh, Dance in the Dark. Amazing. Oh, what did I think of that? Well, all I thought is, oh, my God, I'm dressed as a clown to this song. Right? It's a bit of a mismatch in terms of vibe, but, hey, what can you do?

Do the songs get chosen for you, I'm guessing? Yeah, they get chosen, and we get told the day before. Okay. So, you don't really, and I sort of guessed I was going to be in the bottom after all those crickets. With this one you were doing Ellen. Yeah, oh, my God, could I be any worse? No, I actually think it was funny in the end.

Was it funny? Yes. I mean, it was so bad think it was funny in the end was it funny yes it was i mean it was it was so bad it was funny and which is good yeah i don't know it's hard to be objective when you watch yourself but you know what i did love watching myself in the snatch game it's me laughing at everyone else yeah yeah no they didn't give that favor back to you did they oh never i would say a joke in that work room and it was like, I was like, okay, I'm as funny as, I won't say. Well, with the lip sync, did you, how does it work? Did you know you were going home? Because you seemed shocked

at the end. Didn't you go, oh, wow? Yeah, I said, oh, wow. Is this the part where we shoot Beverly leaving? I love that part. Yeah, that was great. I was like, oh, that would be such a head fuck. Because they do that for the winner, don't they? They film to your ending. Yeah, that's what they do. How cool! Yeah, that's what they do. How cool. Yeah, that's why I said it because I was like, is this where we go back and reshoot Beverly Going Home?

Were you shocked? Were you genuinely, did you think you'd win? Yeah, I was generally shocked. And why I was shocked because I thought I, because I was so liked by Rua and Michelle, I thought I was safe. Yeah. I thought, and that's why I thought, that's why I was shocked I went home. But I think they did me a favour, sending me home as well because mentally I wasn't

coping. Oh, really? No, not at all. Yeah, because you said that you felt isolated by the group. In what way? What were they doing? Well, just say you're in the bus going to work and you talk on the bus and no one's interacting with you.

Oh. And then there was- I'm also just getting past the fact that they put you on a bus. How glamorous. Yeah, well, that's just glamorous. Sounds like school camp. Yeah, that's what it was like. Oh, God.

So a bit of bullying, school camp energy. I hate using that word, but you know what? I've never experienced that before. Yeah, that's what it was like. Oh, God. So a bit of bullying, school camp energy. I hate using that word, but you know what? I've never experienced that before. Yeah. And when you've, first time you experience, like if you look at a lot of the psychology of that, is that you do start to mentally, it's like you suffocate. Because you think, why me?

Yeah. And you're back in your room, you're by yourself. Then you go to a group, and it had already been two weeks isolation prior to that. Oh, yeah, of course. And you add a competition element on top of that. And you add all that. Not a good recipe.

I'm a human being. I may be tough, but I'm not that tough. Do you have a partner, Minnie? No, I'm happily single. Good. I've got five partners as I raise my left hand. Left? Interesting.

You look like a right-hander. Well, no, left hand is more like it's someone else then. True, it feels a bit different. Oh, my God. There was a lot of talk about the ageism stuff on the show. There's so many other queens that I would love to see give it a crack. Like, how do you think someone like Charisma Bell would do? Because I would just adore seeing her on that show.

Yeah, I have no idea, to be perfectly honest. I really don't know. You know what? I wish there was more people of my ilk on that show? Yeah, I have no idea, to be perfectly honest. I really don't know. You know what? I wish there was more people of my ilk on that show, and I think it would have been very different. Have people of your ilk ever raised that as something they might want to do, or are you the only one that's given it a crack? Well, I know other people have,

but I'm the only one that has gotten on so far. But, no, that's not true, because who was last season of Mayug? It was one. Actually, Maud Boat, who's even older than me, has auditioned and got quite close. Oh, okay. Am I allowed to say that? Oh, I don't know. Yeah, yeah.

May Maud Boat. Did you audition, Minnie, for any of the international seasons before the AU? No. So the first audition was the Aussie version. Well, the Aussie version, I got interviewed by Skype the first year, the way they did it, but then the second year I did an audition tape. And I think that's probably, I think the audition tape is the way to go, because then you get to see a well-rounded

performer. It's not just, oh, I like your personality over Skype, you might make great TV. I think there's more, that's why I think this year has been the casting, I think they did the right thing by doing auditions. Vinny, is there any budget given to you guys for the runways? I've always wanted to know that.

No, no, no. It's all your investment. And that's why, and especially at the time of the year we get fined out, we fined out three weeks before Christmas. My God. So you can imagine trying to- The stress. It's really difficult.

Yeah, God. I can barely organise presents, let alone a praying mantis costume. Yeah, and like our promo looks were only like two weeks before we left and that was over Christmas. Your promo look was great. The racer? Was that your entry? Oh, no, no, that was my entry.

Actually, that look is older. Do you know how old that look is? Do you want me to tell you? Yeah. It is 18 years old. What do you mean? I had it made when I won Diva Award in 2004. Oh, really?

No way. The entry, the drag race look. You know the red one? Yeah, yeah, that's how old that outfit is. So it's actually before drag race. I love people going, oh, Minnie's just doing rude drag race. No, it was made way before. But I wore it because of Minnie Cooper the car.

Of course. That's why I wore it. But it's funny what people take from that when you walk in the workroom. I didn't understand Rue's exit line when he said, Minnie Cooper, I can't wait for the world to drive Minnie Coopers. I'm like, is this just a plug for Minnie Coopers? Well, Minnie on the outside, but once you get in the tub, you go real fast.

All right, why don't you ask the famed question, Mitchell, before the Mini goes. We've got a question that we ask every guest. It's because we've got a lot of younger listeners, and we just want to make sure that they know that there's more to life than partying and boys, which is why we've created our list of things better than drugs and dick. So it's just a little thing in life you appreciate.

Like, for example, Faux Fur said her $12 Kmart sushi maker. Aubrey Hafe said freshly cutting her toenails because sometimes you can just let them get out of hand. Just a little pleasure in life. Fresh bed linen, something like that. Mine's my Hey You account. Really? Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. Oh, the Real Housewives.

No, that is good. Better than Drugs and Dick. Oh, my God. Do you know what? I find Housewives is a little bit like Drag Race where I'm like, there's so many spin-offs,

I don't know where to start. Have you watched Salt Lake City? No. Oh, watch it. It's the best. I haven't. Oh, my God. It's the best.

You think? Start with it? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because everyone says Beverly Hills, right? No, no, no. The drama in Salt Lake City is worth it.

Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't Salt Lake City is worth it. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And I don't know what it is, but every episode there's drama and it's fantastic. And you can just sit back and go, God, I'm glad I'm not involved. Oh, it's a bit like season two of Down Under for me. I was just about to say, I wonder why you like it, Minnie. Well, you were great on the show. It was so good to see, like you said, a queen of your ilk representing the, you know, the

elder queens. Yes. You were so great. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. How do you feel about the word elder queen being used? Well, I am elder. I am of an ilk. your ilk representing the you know the elder queens you're so great thank you very much i appreciate how do you feel about the word elder queen being used well i am elder i am of an elk like i don't but you know what i was old at 35 and drag i've been old for years it's weird though because when all this talk of the ageism and elder queen and then i heard you say oh now that i'm 50

i'm like fuck 50 is not it's not even old but but that's what I found really extraordinary. The first question I was asked, literally sitting down at the table, was how old are you? I know. Was that Foe? Yeah. Yeah, that's right. The very first question, I just think, wow, after all.

And Foe's from Sydney, so she knows who I am. It's like, okay, so that's the first question I get asked. You just got to play my favourite game, which is how old do I look? Well, I did, didn't I? Exactly. The game didn't end that well. Yeah. Great to have you on.

Thank you for being here. Thank you very much. And if you're in Sydney, go and see Mini Cooper because it's an experience. You can see me for free. I'm real cheap. Great. I'll probably bump into you on a night out.

So yeah, I'll see you then. Oh, you can't say bump. Okie dokie. We'll be back next Monday afternoon with another episode of Drag Race Debrief, won't we? Yeah, we will see you then, guys. We're getting down. We're nearly halfway. Oh, yeah.

Who's your prediction? Who do you think manifest will be sitting in this chair with us next week? Molly Poppins. I shouldn't say that, but yeah. I have a sad feeling it'll be Yuri Gai. No. I know. I want her to go all the way, but I think they're going to chop Yuri Gai off.

Do not manifest that, please. Partly because I think she's quite cute, so it'd be nice to have her. And you just want her in here ASAP? Maybe, maybe. Yeah, right, okay. Maybe that's it. Part of it. Well, we'll find out next Monday.

And also, new episodes of our regular podcast, Is It Just Me, every Monday too. Yep, we'll see you then, guys. Bye-bye. Is It Just Me? A podcast by a couple of mitches. Make sure you've hit follow on your podcast app.