Is It Just Me? - DRAG RACE DEBRIEF: Spankie Jackzon & Hannah Conda 💃
Episode Date: September 19, 2022Catching up with the WINNER of Ru Paul's Drag Race Down Under, Spankie Jackzon! Plus the runner up, Hannah Conda ❤️See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....
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Is it just me?
A podcast by a couple of Mitches.
Don't fuck it up.
Hello everybody, welcome to the last and final Drag Race Debrief for RuPaul's Drag Race Down Under Season 2.
Hello Mitchell.
I can't believe that it's the last one, that bloody flew by, didn't it?
I know, were you happy with the finale? Were you happy with the end result? I am.
Yeah, I think the last episode was very wholesome. There was no drama and
there were all these cute little moments we got to see of just the three finalists just
hanging backstage in the workroom, just chatting. And some of that unscripted stuff we got out of
them was just gold. So yeah, it was a good episode. I liked it. The finales can be boring at times
because they always do a song and they don't have any drama. All the good drama queens have left.
So it's like, we're all best friends.
We all love each other.
We've all gotten this far.
But this one was actually very entertaining.
And we have our crowned queen.
We have a winner, Spanky Jackson.
You know how I measure whether it's a good episode or not?
Yeah.
Whether I'm going, oh, my God, when is this over?
It's going so long.
Or if I do what I did for this finale, which was, oh, my God,
it's finished already
that was quick yeah I'm with you if I get distracted on my phone and then like lose
track of time I'm like oh shit isn't that bad isn't that bad and that didn't happen
it didn't happen for a couple of the drag race down under episodes yeah really really good but
yeah we have our crowned queen spanky and of course the runners-up queen kong and hannah
conda so queen kong, I don't know if
she's taking the loss. Yeah, we wanted to do two separate interviews, one with the two runners-up
and then one with the winner of course, Spanky Jackson. Queen Kong couldn't make it today but
we've got Hannah, that's the good news. She's a hoot so we might kick off with Hannah, shall we?
Yeah, let's go. Spanky Jackson, the winner, coming up but right now here's Hannah Konda.
All right, let's get her on. One of our faves and from the start, Mitch, we said this from the very first episode of Drag Race Debrief
and even on the main show, Hannah Konda was our winner.
Yeah, we put our footy tips in the very first episode
of Drag Race Debrief and partially out of loyalty
but also out of her pure talent, I was like,
it's got to be Hannah, it's got to be bloody Hannah.
I know.
And she came real close.
She came so close.
Hannah Konda joins us now.
Hello, Hannah.
Welcome to the show.
Hi, babes. How's it going? it going oh more importantly how are you going i bet it was a bloody big weekend for you oh that's an understatement to be fair yeah i figured as much i got a little bit wild
oh good girl i reckon it's so fucked that they make you film like the multiple endings where
you each get a turn pretending you've won
and then you don't even know which one they're going to use.
So like what was your reaction when you filmed your fake ending?
Oh, I put on the waterworks, sobbing and going, oh, my God, you really?
Like to be fair, I can't think that it would have been nice
to watch over again.
But I tell you though, our reaction to Spanky winning was pretty good that was the third
time we did it yeah the last one I got the sense when I was watching the actual ending that they
ran with Spanky winning I got the sense that she might have thought to herself oh they're not going
to run this version because I was like it doesn't feel like she's that excited but now that I know
that it was the third bloody take she'd probably. Yeah, it's like she had to sit through myself and Queen doing it.
I had to go first because they did it in order.
Yeah, because I went first, I didn't realise I had to have, like, a speech.
And we all looked at each other and were like, whoops, whoopsies.
Yeah, yeah.
Do you remember what your speech was?
Oh, it was something about, like, snake by name, tender by nature,
and hopefully at the end of this show I'm your favourite flavour.
Let's thread the glitter and party.
Oh, that's gorgeous.
I think something like that.
That's nice.
I liked your lyrics too in the challenge, Hannah.
I thought your lyrics were sensational.
Did you pre-write them, think about what you want to write
before you come on the show,
or was that really all written in the workroom uh so i did write the lyrics for who is
she in the workroom oh really that's so much pressure mitch i couldn't write a song yeah how
much time did you actually have to do that oh you get like a few hours you kind of know that there's
gonna be that anyway so you kind of think about what general direction you want to go in.
Yeah, I'm pretty good with rhyming, so that works in my favour.
Made it easy, yeah, yeah.
I feel like we don't realise how long filming this shit actually takes.
And I remember in one of the earlier episodes, like a few weeks ago,
you were sort of the first to admit how burnt out you were feeling.
Like talk to me about what a day looks like.
How much work is there?
How many hours
how much sleep do you actually get yeah so you start um every day about seven o'clock in the
morning and you go in and that's where you film your like confessionals and is that commentating
on everything that happened the day before yes gotcha okay so everything's fresh in your mind
and then you'll go in depending on what day it is if it's like a
new challenge day or you're completing like a challenge in a runway oh yeah you go into the
work room and either room will come in or you just continue on the work and then i think the longest
day would be a runway day because you're you get ready really early and then like the runway takes
like oh i'd say like three or four hours especially in
the early parts to get filmed and so how late do you knock off oh well it depends on what we're
doing um i remember the first day when we did the construction challenge i don't think we left there
until well after like working hours and he's rue there well? So it's more than a nine to five.
Yeah.
And Rue stays the whole time, Anna?
No, Rue, they just pack down her green screen and then she's done.
Yeah, right.
She's on LA time, so it's early for her, early in the morning.
Yeah.
I remember when we had Reece Nicholson on the podcast,
he was explaining to us how their commentary works during the runways.
They get you to do two walks, one to music and one without music,
so they can just come up with their smart-ass comments.
Is that distracting when you just hear them talking and there's no music?
I would just be laughing at what they're saying.
Well, yeah, you do.
And, like, it's so weird because all you can hear is, like,
as you're, like, clopping down the fucking runway looking like a like a because you want
to get the music to get you into it and michelle got me in the first week because she's like oh
it's kate moss and i don't know why i just found that hysterical so i was like cackling myself
and they're like focus on the runway and i'm like oh sorry that would be very distracting
hannah how does it feel obviously to get so close and i don't want to, how does it feel, obviously, to get so close? And I don't want to go, how does it feel to get so close and not win?
But I truly saw you as a frontrunner the whole season.
And how does it feel to do so well in the competition and then come out and go, oh, I think I can win this or I think I'm close, but then see public reaction and then watch the edit?
And did your opinion on how you did change after seeing the show?
Ish.
Yeah.
I'm very proud of what I did at the show and I'm very proud
of how I sort of came across in the show.
I think the one thing that I wished I got to see more of for me
and my edit was more of my quirky, fun personality
that I think is the dominant feature of me.
I just feel like a bit of a robot at points,
especially on the runways when, like, they give a critique.
I look like a bloody blowfish just sitting there going,
yeah, thank you.
Yeah.
Were you biting back?
Were you throwing quips back that we didn't see?
Yeah, we were, like, gasping and we were chatting back and forth,
but you wouldn't have known it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I feel like we did get to see plenty of your funny personality, though.
I love that there were just these little extremely Australian moments.
Like you'd say things like, come on, slut, and I'm just like, oh, my God,
I'm so glad that she's the Aussie in the top three.
It was just beautiful.
I feel like you would have had international view.
It's been like, what did she say?
Because the accent's so thick.
Yeah, I think it's actually the Perth accent that takes over.
Who were your backups for Snatch Game?
I know you've mentioned a couple because you did Liza
and you did Liza so well, but who else did you have backed up?
I had Drew Barrymore with me and I'm thankful that I never did that.
Why?
Can you do a Drew?
Give us some Drew. Give us some Drew.
Give us some Drew.
Oh, that is so good, Drew.
I'm just a boho, chic, chic, chic mama.
Oh, my God.
The lips.
Look at the rain.
It's beautiful.
Yes, I wish people could see, like, the shape of the mouth.
The lips down.
That really makes it.
It's all in the mouth.
Were you gutted that you didn't win because you got so much out of it?
Was it really like were you crushed or were you like,
no, I'm going to take the positive out of this?
And well done to Spanky.
She's a sister.
She's a queen.
Where was your head at on the day, on the reveal day?
If I'm going to be completely 150% honest, I'm thrilled that I didn't win.
Why?
Yeah, because, like, I feel that I like being the robbed queen.
Yeah.
That never gets run for me.
Yeah.
I mean, you've seen how many Australian Idol runners-up have actually been
more successful than the winners.
You're like the Jess Malboy, you know?
Yeah, Imrushiana, yeah.
Actually, the Shannon Knoll.
Yeah, I did like that they didn't actually place a second and third,
so you and Queen Kong were technically equal,
but Queen Kong didn't rock up today, so you're fucking second in my books.
You're second in our books, yeah.
Well, you're fucking first, to be honest.
Let's be real.
So what's next for you?
Because people can see you live obviously in
sydney because you're a sydney queen are you coming back to trivia oh oh my god look not at
the moment oh she's a busy girl and she's traveling around so we're going on our uh big tour yes with
the casts um so that's going to be taking up you know a couple of months and then when we get back um
queen myself and spanky we're going to stay together and do some bab stuff oh that'll be
nice well that's what i was going to ask because they the queens often go on tours right um but
then the queens that don't win hashtag rob queens i.e hannah conda go back for queens versus the
world or australia versus the world or uk vs. the World or UK vs. the World, you know, or All Stars International.
Would you do it?
Have you been asked?
We need to know.
I haven't been asked but definitely would do it.
Yeah.
Hannah would be amazing.
A hundred percent.
And I think, like, people getting to know me as well and, like, you know,
also having that conversation with Queen in Episode 3,
which is really, really important for me to do.
I think people – and rightly so. You know, some people may not enjoy me or like me. And I think it gave
them a chance to see more than what the internet says about me and see me as a human being and what
I can do and, you know, and the work that I'm doing as well. So I think now that I've kind of
showcased that and can have people on the journey with me going back in, hopefully, you know, and the work that I'm doing as well. So I think now that I've kind of showcased that and can have people
on the journey with me, going back in, hopefully, you know,
I can show them even more.
Yeah.
I'd also love to see you with lip fillers because when the queens come back,
they get lip fillers and you're clearly all natural now.
So to see you with lip, it'd be so nice, Hannah.
It'd be beautiful to see.
Oh, you know, I think that's something I've been really thinking about.
Yeah.
Toying with the idea.
You know, one thing I really loved in that final episode was that letter you got from
your partner, Jack, and how you were just missing each other so much.
It was very gushy.
What was that first reunion like once you were done and dusted with the show?
Well, we had sex.
Oh, that's nice.
No, I was too freaking tired.
I was like, I'm moaning in your ear.
Do it yourself, babe.
Oh, my God.
No, he's just a sweetheart.
He's a trooper.
He held down the fort.
The house was clean.
And he cooked me dinner.
And I was really, really happy.
So, sick as it sounds, he's my best friend.
I couldn't do it without him.
And, yeah, just very lucky.
Yeah.
Oh, my God.
That is cute.
You're going to make me cry.
I know, right?
You're the real winner.
You've got your boyfriend.
You don't need a crown.
Well, listen, it was an absolute pleasure to watch you.
You were so good.
Wait, Mitch, you've got to ask Hannah our question we ask every guest.
Yeah, I was going to say, don't wrap this
shit up too soon. That's a bit premature,
darling. Oh, that's me. We like
to ask every guest we have on the show the same
question. We get them to contribute
to our list of things better than
drugs and dick. Yes.
And the reason that that
list exists is just to remind
any young listeners that we have that, hey,
there's more to life than partying and boys don't get obsessed.
There's little things in life you can appreciate.
So Faux Fur, the example she gave of something better than drugs
and dick is a $12 Kmart sushi maker.
Aubrey Haves said freshly cut toenails.
Yuri Guy said a hangover day in bed.
Minnie Cooper said her Hey You account,
watching Real Housewives of Salt Lake City.
She didn't say it. She yelled it. She was very yelly that episode. She was like, I have her Hey You account watching Real Housewives of Salt Lake City. She didn't say it, she yelled
it. She was very yelly that episode. She was like,
I have my Hey You account!
It's your delivery, sorry. It's all in the
delivery. It's very hot, very hot, Minnie.
What do you want to add to the list?
Things better than drugs and dick?
There is so many wonderful
things better than drugs and dick, but the thing
that I...
You know what i'm gonna say
the wizard of oz and preferably if you can get yourself a dvd player and watch it on dvd
because you can get all the bonus features and learn about the wizard of oz because it's such
a magical place and i think that shaped me a lot um because i like to escape into the fantasy realm
you know i always think when I step into drag,
it's like coming out of the door into Oz and being everything in colour
and fabulousness.
Yeah.
So it's my safe space.
When I feel down, I go and watch The Wizard of Oz.
So that's my addition.
Add that to the list.
Oh, do you know what I noticed though?
Because a friend of mine put on Wizard of Oz recently
and they had like a super HD TV.
And like when you watch it on high quality, I was like, fuck me, the set looks real cheap,
doesn't it?
Like you've got to watch it on a small screen,
otherwise the magic is bloody ruined.
It's so.
Yeah, small screen, DVD, because there's actually quite,
there was so many horrific things that happened on the set
of Wizard of Oz.
Like what?
Like Judy Garland, she was, like, constantly on drugs,
up and downers.
Yep.
The Tin Man paint that they used on him initially, like,
nearly killed him.
Really?
Wasn't there the rumour of someone hanging in the tree in the background
in one of the shots?
Yeah, one of the munchkins.
Oh, my.
Yeah, there was a whole.
Oh, and the lion's boot, like, apparently nearly killed the actor as well.
Oh, my God.
It's a horror film.
Oh, and the Wicked Witch, when she comes out of the ground,
you get all the flames and stuff.
She got, like, severely burned.
Oh, my God.
And they kept it in.
We're adding all this trauma to the list of things better than drugs and dick.
Yeah, well, that's Hannah's prerogative. That than drugs and dick. Okay. I don't make the rules.
That's Hannah's prerogative.
That's Hannah's choice.
Yeah, but look at something, Will.
Thank you so much for coming on.
Oh, you're welcome, darlings.
Love you.
Can't wait to see you soon.
Love you, Hannah.
All right.
It's been a long couple of weeks, but finally, at long last,
the winner of Drag Race Down Under Season 2, the one and only Spanker Jackson.
Hello, Spanks.
Hello, Spanky.
Oh, my God.
Hi, guys.
Excuse my voice.
I sound like a horse at the moment, but it's better than being called a horse,
but I get called that as well.
I've had that same problem the last few weeks.
Did you have a big weekend after celebrating the win?
No.
Like, I've had a throat problem before
i went on tour like um i was like on tour by myself and of course singing through it and of
course the doctor had said look if you push it too hard you're going to end up with laryngitis
and i think that's where i'm at um unfortunately so you're talking my language isn't it such
unhelpful advice when they say just rest the, and it's like you need the fucking voice.
You can't just rest it.
It's not that easy.
I know, right?
Are we allowed to swear?
Oh, please, as much as you like.
Oh, good.
Thanks, fuck, because I was like, oh, God, I have to beat myself.
Not at all.
I love the fact that everyone kept describing you as, like,
the rough queen as well.
And did you hear the theory that that was, like,
a tactic of yours going in in week one, being a little bit rough with the outfit and then just surprising
everyone and redeeming yourself so like it wasn't a tactic at all but I was very like honest with
myself before I went which is like I knew exactly what my critiques were going to be you know they
wanted bigger hair they were going to want stockings. They were going to want hips. And I came prepared for that.
But walking into that workroom, that's exactly why I chose the dress that I did, was because I wanted to give people exactly what they knew of Spanky.
And the people that know me know that I wear no pants and my bum's hanging out.
And I wanted to go in being the queen that I originally am.
But this is a process and we're all there to learn and grow.
And, you know, that's how I looked at this experience.
So I came prepared.
And when they asked for it, I gave it to them.
I loved it.
And because as someone like me who doesn't know anything about makeup, I don't know anything.
I could never do drag.
I'm so bad with that.
I was looking at you going, why does everyone keep calling her rough?
Like, she looks bloody great to me.
And there was just something so – I don't want to, like,
suck up your ass too much, but there was just something
captivating about you.
It didn't matter about the fashion.
Like, I was just drawn to you.
You just, like, you had everyone by the balls every time you performed.
Well, that's why Rue loves Spanky so much, right?
Like, Rue even said that.
He's like, I don't know what it is, but I'm addicted to this queen.
And that's how the whole audience felt.
Oh, it's insane.
Like I never expected to probably be in the final.
Like I thought for sure, like I had a lot of issues with outfits
and getting things finished and clearly they didn't get finished.
And I like nearly pulled out.
So like a week and a half before I was supposed to leave,
I nearly pulled out because I was like, I just can't embarrass myself like this.
But I was like, this may never happen again for me.
And I have to just go and, you know, balls to the wall.
And I knew I had the talent.
I knew I could ace the challenges.
Okay, maybe not the sewing challenge.
Let's be fair.
But it was so bad that it was good.
But yeah, I mean, it's just been a dream, really.
It's been a dream.
Yeah, that would have been a shame if you pulled out.
How does one even go about pulling out?
Like, I have a feeling that even if you tried to pull out,
they wouldn't let you.
They'd be like, no bitch, you're doing it.
I'm sure it's not the first time you've pulled out, Mitchell.
Oh, please.
You've done your research, Spanky.
It shows quite clearly.
Hey, I know you, Bert.
Spanky, I want to know, because you revealed in your Jaffa podcast chat,
I mean, they're not even podcast chats anymore,
the Jaffa chats that you have midway through the episode,
that you're a childcare worker.
Have any of the kids seen you ever in drag?
Have they seen the show?
Do they know you're on it?
I love that.
So I try to keep it very separate from the kids because i also don't feel like it's my place to um to you know
teach children about that but um i had already won house of drag and some of the kids had been
given a magazine at school that i happened to be in the center. And they all came in and they were like, oh my God, like what the heck?
You look ugly.
Did you look like a hoe?
What were you wearing?
I was just wearing like a sequined dress.
But I've actually had lots of messages from the parents and from some of the kids.
And it's,'s yeah it's overwhelming
it was one of the highlights of my life and unfortunately I just finished up because my
schedule is just too crazy and I it is one of the absolute highlights of my life was being able to be their surrogate fairy godmother um and just
bring joy and laughter and teach them to it's okay to you know screw up and be you and live
your dreams and if you want to be a cat be a cat i don't care like just do it like and to be able to
be living proof of everything that i spoke yeah um and for them to send me the love is just honestly so touching.
And I'm so grateful for the time that I have with their kids and the support of their parents.
I actually did kind of get the sense that you were a bit overwhelmed with all the attention after having one.
Is it a bit full on?
Because I saw you saying, oh, I'm trying to get back to you with all the messages.
Has it been a bit much?
It's like, I think it's just part of my personality it's like the messages and and love and support and it's like people took the time to write me a message you know and I don't want to
be that person who's like I'm too famous now that I can't reply to you I'm absolutely nobody like
I'm nobody I'm just the contestant in a show who
happened to win a crown and it's like if people are going to take time out of their day to reply
you know send me a message of support or love it's like the least I can do is try and reply
and just say thank you or you know um and reading the messages just makes me cry like
I didn't expect to touch people the way that I have and it was always part of my life that
I was destined for something else and I didn't know it was going to be this but I really wanted
to change the world and in some small way by just being me and just being there I've managed to do
that. Spanky what happened after the first episode you were in the bottom essentially almost went
home did that shake you because you
went on to win the bloody thing but watching it as a whole over eight weeks you can see your
trajectory but being in it i imagine that was different being in the bottom in episode one
would have thrown you i'd imagine um it didn't throw me it fueled me um i i knew that the
throwing or that challenge in particular was definitely a weakness but i knew that the the throwing or that challenge in particular was definitely a weakness but i knew
that the rest were all strengths so i didn't expect that to be the first challenge up either
so i thought i would have been able to show some of what i had which would have helped me get through
that challenge um and unfortunately it was first and it's the way it was. But I knew that I could nail the lip sync.
I, like, that's what I do.
So it definitely, I did think it was over.
And I was like, oh, my God, I'm going to be that girl who goes on first,
which is a horrible position to go home.
You don't get to show any of who you are, what you can do.
It's just based on, you know, that's how the cards fall.
And, yeah, it was definitely an emotional day and I got very emotional about it.
But I pushed on through and, I mean, it would have been,
like Reece Nicholson said, a huge mistake because, hello, here I am.
It's a good thing you didn't go home first
because everyone probably would have written you off being like,
oh, you can see her black panties too. That's why they sent faux fur home large in part.
But no, thank God you stuck around because I feel like everyone fell in love with you because you
were the unproblematic one. So I imagine that there's no point in asking if you were happy
with your edit because you know your edit was sick. Everyone fell in love with you. Do you
reckon there was anyone that was done dirty? Like who do you reckon got the roughest treatment on
the show? I think Hannah probably got a rough edit um we didn't get to see half of her hilarity like if there was one
she said the same thing to us when we spoke to her yesterday she goes you missed all my funny bits
oh she we were pissing ourselves the whole season um and they didn't really get to show her hilarious. Honestly, that girl is hysterical.
And she, I mean, we had to be separated at one point for one of the challenges because we were just pissing ourselves so hard.
And they were like, shut up, you two.
We were just laughing.
And then she'd like walk past the door like, and we'd just fucking lose it all over again.
the door like and we just fucking lose it all over again um so if there was somebody that probably got done dirty it's her that we didn't get to see enough of the beautiful um hilarious person that
she is 100 did you had you met hannah before the show no i hadn't but um hannah had watched house
of drag so she knew who i was i knew who she was um and then um her and her boyfriend had been
watching it just before she came and um yeah so she knew who I was and what I could do um but yeah
just hit it off right away with that girl she is a legend and so polished and finished and amazing
and so incredible and just like a dream fairy princess I like if some kid got that at Christmas,
that'd be bloody stoked.
Yeah.
She was definitely one of my favorites as well as Yuri.
I mean,
we've got to talk about bloody Yuri and how adorable he is.
Is he actually going to come over for Christmas?
Do you reckon?
Oh,
like,
I mean,
we actually were just talking.
He was at my hotel on the weekend and we were talking about,
cause there's probably a move on the cards.
For you?
For both of us. Oh, okay. And we were talking about, because there's probably a move on the cards. For you? For both of us.
Oh, okay.
And we were talking about moving in together.
To Australia?
Yeah, to Melbourne.
Oh.
And we were talking about moving in together.
So, yeah, a family Christmas could be on the cards.
Won't be this year, but could be next.
Oh, my God.
That would be the most fun place to have a house party with you two in charge. That we'd have fun with the booze on the tree it'll be perfect or an orgy i
mean that'd be hot well i've got no pants on so easy access all the time ready to go i gotta say
you really bagged out your hometown parmesan north quite a bit but i'd never heard of the place i
went and gave it a bit of a Google and it actually looks fucking lovely.
I was picturing an absolute shithole.
Is there a part of you that actually loves it?
Oh, I absolutely froth for my hometown.
I do.
It's where I grew up.
Do you know what I mean?
It's not, you know, I think it doesn't have all of the, like,
the new mod cons and, like, the stuff that I'm used to from living
in a big city.
It just doesn't so
when you go from the big city and come back here it's like oh god really like i can't even get
over it's past 10 p.m you know what i mean like stuff like yeah um but it's um parmesan north
doesn't have everything but it is one of the most beautiful cities in new zealand and it's the people
of parmesan north that make it incredible.
They're the most warm, open, kind, and loving people that you'll ever meet.
Okay, yeah, you're still going to get some pricks,
but you get that anywhere.
Everywhere, yeah.
But the thing is, it's the people of Palmerston North
that make Palmy so great.
Is there much of a queer scene there?
To be fair, there wasn't.
I mean, we used to have a couple of nightclubs back in the day
they've kind of disappeared but um we literally just had new zealand's biggest drag festival here
wow which was supposed to be part of but i was away um and we literally because mini cooper was
here yuri was in it karen from finance peter and it was here in Palmy. So we are definitely becoming a melting pot for drag
and it's a fabulous thing.
I love that.
No, it actually looked gorgeous.
And it's nice to head back home occasionally.
I find the same with my hometown.
It's like, okay, I don't want to live here forever,
but it's got a place in my heart, you know?
Oh, 100%.
It's like I wouldn't be who I am today if it wasn't for, like,
my time here and the roughness and the growing up here, you know oh 100 it's like i wouldn't be who i am today if it wasn't for like my time here and the
roughness and the growing up here you know um i think that that's who that's what made me me today
and i've always just kind of carried palmy with me um and like you say it is nice to come home
there's something comforting about coming back to the streets you grew up in um and now coming back
with a crown i mean babes you'll see
me at the wall i'm just going to be shopping at cayma i'll be like hey babes hey um that'll be me
is it heavy that thing that you've got on your head right now is that the actual crown they gave
you it's not the actual crown it's a replacement crown but i will get the crown hopefully soon and
i tell you what i'm gonna wear it around with no pants on and I'm going to pop back a dart and just have a wine when it arrives.
Oh, my God.
That is brilliant.
Another question about the prize, by the way.
I know that they said you get a year's supply of Anastasia Beverly Hills.
What the fuck does that actually mean?
Is it all you can eat?
You just use as much as you can and they keep filling you up?
Is it a gift card?
Well, I mean, I haven't received it yet,
but they just messaged me about my foundation colors and stuff i did make some specific requests um because we
used a lot of their products while we were on the show which they're brilliant do you know i mean
i'm stoked and for drag queen to win a year's supply hello mama is happy and so will my friends
be as well because anything that's beige i can't wear because I'm just too pretty for it.
I love it.
Now should we dive into the question we ask every guest, Mitchell?
Yeah, yeah, we do this to every guest.
And I don't know if any of the other queens have told you, Spanky,
but we ask all our guests, not just the Drag Race Debrief queens,
but any guests we have on the show, we have a list of things better
than drugs and dick because we have a lot of young listeners
who are focused on both drugs and dick.
And yes, they can be fun, but there's more to life than those two things.
So Mitch, what are some examples that we've had?
Yeah.
So is this a little thing in life that you appreciate?
So Faux First said her $12 Kmart sushi maker.
Yesterday, Hannah Conda said The Wizard of Oz, which is her comfort movie.
Yeah, I like that.
Yeah.
Molly Poppin said Burger, Shake and Fries.
Beverly Kill said pre-preparing your hangover,
like getting all the essentials you need for when you wake up.
Yeah, prepping.
Okay.
She's only 21.
She doesn't know what a hangover is.
God, get a grip.
I was thinking that.
So, yeah, it could be anything like fresh bed linen.
Oh, babes, it has to be KFC.
Like, honestly, come on, guys.
Better than drugs and sex or drugs and dick is KFC
because you still get to suck on something,
but you don't have the aftertaste after.
There's no shame in swallowing at all.
Right?
Right.
Or dropping skin into your boobs for later, you know?
That's fine.
What's your go-to KFC order?
Oh, everything.
It's quite a massive thing, really.
Double Zinger burger, Ultimate Burger Meal with a Wicked Wings pack
and another large chips, and you need a big thing of gravy as well.
100%.
And then if I'm with friends, I'll order like three family packs
and we will demolish it because I'm a big bitch.
Oh, my God. I'm so coming to visit you because I'm a big bitch. Oh, my God.
I'm so coming to visit you and Yuri for KFC.
Oh, my God.
I can't wait.
Could you imagine if I made a KFC Christmas tree
and I just had like a wing on it?
That'd be so stunning.
Popcorn chicken instead of baubles.
Yeah.
Oh, right.
Totally.
Long may you reign, Spanky Jackson.
Congratulations, Queen.
Thank you so much.
It just means the world to me, and I'm just so grateful to be standing here
and to be standing with two incredible queens like Queen and Hannah as well.
Some of the best drag talent in Australasia,
and I couldn't be more proud to represent all of us.
So thank you so much, guys.
Congratulations, Spanky.
We're absolutely thrilled for you. Mitchell, I absolutely love, guys. Congratulations, Spanky. We're absolutely thrilled for you.
Mitchell, I absolutely love your videos.
Oh, you're joking.
And I love the ones about your sister's baby.
Cracked me the fuck up.
Love it.
Oh, I didn't realise you'd see me.
Oh, thank you.
Mitchell, babes, I've been watching you for a while and I appreciate you.
Oh, wow, that's hot.
I'm flattered.
You're so funny.
Oh, thanks, darling. See you guys. Thankattered. You're so funny. Oh, thanks, darling.
See you guys.
Thank you.
She's fucking funny, isn't she?
I'd love to get a drink with Spanky Jackson.
By the sounds of it, she would too.
Same.
I'm just still a bit blushed at the fact that she already knew who I was
going into this interview.
I didn't know that she knew me.
She was looking at me, and I will say I have made one video
about my sister in 2012.
So I do.
It might be me.
We don't know.
We really don't.
No, there was definitely a plural.
She said, I love your videos.
Oh, shit.
So it's you.
Yeah.
Well, take it.
I'm so chuffed.
Spanky is an absolute icon.
Isn't she just a hoot?
She's so funny.
And guys, she's so hot.
She was wearing the crown that she was given.
Well, the interim crown, and she looked gorgeous.
I don't know what she's done with her makeup,
but she's changed a few things up and she looked stunning.
I think that she was just brilliant.
And so I'm glad it was her.
I'm sure everyone deserved to win, but, you know,
I'm happy with that winner.
Although two Kiwis in a row.
And when are people going to realise that that's what RuPaul likes?
All these queens that come on, like, you know,
I don't want to use Beverly in example, but she's what's coming to mind.
I'm fierce.
I can lip sync.
I can split.
That's not actually what RuPaul wants to see.
And that's not who he wants to win.
He wants to, like, laugh and belly laugh and look at a hooker on stage.
He's said it many times.
Did you notice in that final lip sync that they did,
Spanky Jackson's whole thing is like not wearing pants.
And yet it was the other two, Queen Kong and Hannah Konda, that at one point during the dance, like dropped their skirts and just had the pants on underneath so they could dance around.
Oh my God, you're right.
Yeah, that's like an old trick for Spanky.
She didn't need to pull that card.
No, she didn't.
But she won.
She's got the cash.
She's got the makeup and she's got the crown.
And I will say we had a great, great time doing Drag Race Debrief. card no she didn't but she won she's got the cash she's got the makeup and she's got the crown and
i will say we had a great great time doing drag race debrief this has been real fun i've loved
this book club of ours it has been a bit book club-esque hasn't it a bit of a you know sisterhood
of the traveling pants but um we're done here at drag race debrief uh who knows season three hasn't
been renewed yet we're in cahoots with Stan and they are, as soon as they know,
we'll know and we'll let you know if we're back.
But you can catch us for the main episode, of course,
every Monday on the main feed for Is It Just Me, for the main show.
Oh, yeah, duh.
Is It Just Me isn't going anywhere.
But, yes, our side hustle, Drag Race Debrief,
is done and dusted for now.
It's been a hoot, idiots.
Thanks for listening.
Thanks for listening, guys.
We'll see you next season.
See ya.
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