Is It Just Me? - DRAG RACE DEBRIEF: Week 3 💃
Episode Date: August 15, 2022Recapping Episode 3, Season 2 of Ru Paul's Drag Race Down UnderSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....
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Is it just me? A podcast by a couple of Mitches. Don't fuck it up.
Hello everybody, welcome to Drag Race Debrief. Mitchell Coombs is here, hello.
Hi, this is a bit of a weird version of Drag Race Debrief. We're essentially doing an episode
to let you know that we're not doing an episode this week.
Yeah, it's like an anti-episode, so see ya, bye.
Yeah, we promise that every single Monday afternoon we'll be catching up with each drag
queen as she was eliminated from Drag Race Down Under Season 2.
Yeah.
And that was going to be happening today, but then Pamara Fifth pulled the pin last
minute.
I don't know.
I think she might have a busy schedule.
She was in the Gold Coast on the weekend, so maybe she had trouble getting back to Sydney.
I don't know.
But yeah, we're just letting you know that we're not doing this, even though we're here.
There's no interview with Primara Feef.
I think she drove past to Betty's Burgers and just is still there.
Oh, no, make fat jokes.
Did you see the episode?
I did see the episode.
I love because last week, Mitchell the bitch,
you ruined it for me last week because you text me and you said,
oh, we're interviewing Aubrey Have on Monday.
Like, oh, what are we going to do?
What are we going to ask her?
What do you want to ask her?
And I was like, oh, shit. You spoiled it for me.
Oh, you hadn't watched it yet.
No.
Well, the reason I brought it up is because they were making bloody fat jokes at Pamara's
expense in the episode.
So don't kick a while shit's down.
Did you hear all the jokes they made about her corset and struggling or whatever it was?
No.
Listen, as a big boy, I feel like big can laugh at big.
I think the first one was funny.
But yeah, you're right.
We knew the punchline. Like, it lost the emphasis by the sixth joke and everyone
did it.
So it must be a gag backstage or behind the scenes, don't you think?
Maybe as a big girl yourself, you could take inspiration from her drag name and you could
be Hippomara Fifth.
Oh, can I just say, no shade towards it.
I don't get the name.
What's Pimara Fifth?
What does it mean? Well, I just assumed it was a play on towards her. I don't get the name. What's Pamara Fifth? What does it mean?
Well, I just assumed it was a play on Paloma Faith, you know, the singer.
But right at the top of episode one, she said it's not based off Paloma Faith.
And I can't remember what the explanation was, but who knows?
No, it's done.
I think it's a stupid name.
And I like the Queen.
I like the Queen.
Look, we are friends with Carla from Bankstown on the show.
And if you want to do some Googling and some online sleuthing, you'll find out that those
two aren't the best of friends. And all I'll say is I stand with Carla from Bankstown on the show, and if you want to do some Googling and some online sleuthing, you'll find out that those two aren't the best of friends.
And all I'll say is I stand with Carla.
That's mine.
Yeah, I honestly don't know what the go is there.
I've just heard that Pamara has, I don't know,
accused Carla of being a bully,
and obviously I don't know her side of the story,
have not spoken to her, but I just struggle to imagine
because, like, Ben or Carla, whatever you want to call him,
is just an angel on this earth.
So I just can't fathom how someone could have ever experienced her as a bully.
But anyway, we won't get into that.
It's not about business, really.
No, no.
And we don't have Penorama 4th on the show, so she won't be here.
But let's recap the episode.
You know what?
I will say this is the first episode in this season that I actually laughed out loud at.
I enjoyed this episode a lot.
Yeah, I really thought this was a big improvement from last week.
Because remember how I said episode one was such a strong start to season two, it was
perfect.
And then I said, fuck me, episode two sucked.
But yeah, they've bounced back.
I thought this was the best one of the season so far, to be honest.
They did like some, it was essentially a comedy challenge, but they disguised it as a drag brunch challenge.
And so they just had to like co-host a drag brunch
and do a bit of an opening set.
Which I liked.
I liked it too.
I liked.
It was almost like a roast as well.
And RuPaul even said that.
He's like, you can toast, you can roast,
and I don't know, something else.
But I liked that element of it a lot.
When it started, oh my God, when Mini Cooper was saying,
I'll get down on my knees for you, talking about Spanky Jackson,
I want to officially on the record take back my championing of Mini Cooper.
I don't want her to win anymore.
She's pissing me off.
Love her.
Really?
But I don't want her to win anymore.
No, I'm over Mini Cooper.
Oh, that's interesting because I thought the opposite
because I did say last week, like episode two,
I thought, Jesus, this isn't good PR for Minnie Cooper
because she was just coming across as a bit shit-sturry,
even though I do adore Minnie and have so for many years.
But I thought she really redeemed herself this episode.
I thought that her runway.
Oh, that was beautiful.
Yeah, she killed that.
Got me all emotional.
The tits were out.
She had a nip slip. That was random. Although tits were out. She had a nip slip.
That was random. Although you would
probably respect her more for the nip slip, I'd
think. I'd say you'd like that. I know. I
actually thought she should have just said that that
was part of it and she was doing that on purpose because the
cameras were like, oh, whoops, Minnie had
a nip slip and I'm like, she should have just owned it and been like,
no, no, I did that on purpose. I swear. Yeah, well, if we
learn anything from Aubrey Haver last week, it's if you
fuck up on the runway, just say it's part of it. Exactly. Yeah. No, look, I think Minnie on purpose, I swear. Yeah, well, if we learn anything from Aubrey Haver last week, it's if you fuck up on the runway, just say it's part of it.
Exactly.
Yeah.
No, look, I think Minnie's hilarious and I like her
and I wanted to go far because she's entertaining.
But my winner, I'll probably change every week.
I want Hannah Conda to win because I think she's so funny.
I've seen her live and her runways have been exceptional.
But I'm also really liking, liking, who won the first week?
I can't remember her name.
From Newcastle.
Molly Poppins?
Yes.
I think Molly Poppins will win.
I think she'll be in the top four.
Molly Poppins.
You reckon?
And Hannah Condit.
100%.
Yeah.
God, yeah.
I think she'll win.
I mean, I'm going to just disclose that I have a complete and utter bias towards Hannah.
I want her to win because I've met her and I think she's amazing.
And she is doing well in the series as well.
I reckon that her drag brunch comedy thing that she did was like the best one.
She's such a natural because I go to her trivia nights that she hosts.
I've been to a few of them.
So, yeah, I think she's good at that.
That's her element.
I was going to say, yeah, it came so naturally to her.
Beverly Kills, I like Beverly Kills.
I think she's quite charming, but I don't think she nailed this challenge.
I also, hot take.
Again, don't kick her while she's down.
She had a full-on bloody meltdown after that challenge
because she thought she might be going home.
I'm sorry, but here's my hot take.
I don't think they were in the bottom.
I rewatched just the challenge portion, and those two were really funny.
I genuinely don't think they should have been in the bottom.
I think who was the one that got cum in her eye?
What was that?
What was her name?
Yuri.
Yuri!
Yuri Churi!
Yuri should have been in the bottom.
I'm sorry for her performance.
Can we just take a pause to acknowledge the fact that for once I know more about Drag Race
than you.
You're asking me for their names?
It's the name.
I honest to God, I need a bloody bingo card at this point.
I don't know any of their names.
But Yuri should have been in the bottom.
Sorry, hand on heart.
Not speaking for Yuri.
Really? I love Yuri.
Yeah, yeah.
I would have put Yuri in the bottom with Mini Cooper,
but they were judged as pairs,
which you probably wouldn't know this, Mitch,
but in Drag Race, it's a bit of editing bias.
Sometimes they will put the couple,
like the duo in the bottom
or other times Rue will conveniently say, this week you're being judged individually
and they'll put two shit people in the bottom. So it's how production want the storyline
to progress really. But I think it should have been Minnie and yeah, Kamai.
Well, it was your mate Molly Poppins that actually paired together Beverly and Pamara.
I reckon she knew what she was doing there. She knew that they wouldn't necessarily gel easily.
I think they got there in the end, but, yeah, they struggled.
It's funny watching because I think some people are really good working solo
and then you throw people together in a duo and they just struggle a little bit
to have a rapport and bounce off each other.
But I thought that they came good in the end in that challenge.
Like nobody really bombed, not one of them.
No, there was no bomb, no. I think you know who actually in the end in that challenge. Like nobody really bombed, not one of them. No, there was no bomb.
No.
I think, you know who actually should have won in my eyes was,
and it was a weird duo for the two of them because Minnie was a bit manic,
but Queen Kong.
Queen Kong was sensational.
Oh, yeah, of course.
So good.
Like she really.
Yeah, that was a bounce back from last week.
Major bounce back.
Finally arrived, looked gorgeous,
Yeah, that was a bounce back from last week.
Major bounce back.
Finally arrived.
Looked gorgeous.
And absolutely led the whole roast with humour and was magnetic.
I was listening to everything she said.
I thought she should have won.
And then, of course, I had the runway, which was red for filth.
They were all wearing gorgeous red outfits.
And I didn't think I'd say this, but my favourite was Spanky Jackson.
I was like, oh, she looked gorgeous that week.
What a bounce back from episode one where she looked like a fucking,
I don't know, dead octopus you found on the side of the beach.
I don't know.
Yeah, she did not look good.
She looked like a Wendy's hot dog, like a Frankfurt.
Yeah, the runways this week were exceptional, actually.
I couldn't knock anyone.
Because sometimes the runways on Drag Race Down Under, a bit crunchy.
Like, it's a bit cringe.
But this week they were all exceptional.
Again, Hannah Conda robbed again.
She's had the best runways consistently.
I know.
I don't know when she's going to get her win.
I know.
Yeah, they looked great.
But did you notice during the lip sync right at the end that you could see right up Pamara's tiny skirt?
Like she had the biggest granny panties ever and they were so visible. I couldn't like unsee it.
I know, which is funny because Faux Fur episode one eliminated for that
and then they're like, ah, no, you've won the challenge.
Yeah, we like you.
It's so funny.
No, they didn't.
Pamara left the fucking show.
She didn't win.
Oh, I think he was spanky.
Sorry, sorry.
I really need a bingo chart.
No, I'm talking about Pamara, the one that left and was meant to be here
right now talking to us.
In that lip sync, you could see her full gut.
Oh, when she pulled the reveal down.
Oh, I know what you're talking about.
That was not nice to really look at.
It looked like her fanny was out.
But I couldn't believe that they just didn't mention it.
Because like you said, they had such an issue with faux fur having her black panties out.
But because these were flesh-coloured panties, they were like, we just won't acknowledge the fact that her skirt
is far too short.
Like her skirt didn't even cover her fucking belly button.
No, can I just say, did you look at Rue's face?
They cut to Rue and he looked so dissatisfied at the sight of her gut.
I don't think he was happy.
Oh, I didn't make the connection.
I do remember them cutting away to him though.
Oh, what about Ursula?
Did you like Ursula Carlson, who I don't think got to shine in her full glory
because she made a funny Anzac Bridge reference and no one understood it?
No, I actually turned to my friend that I was watching Drag Race with
and I said, oh, fuck me, I forgot Ursula was there
because there was a solid what felt like 20 minutes
where she didn't say anything.
And then you just heard her make some joke.
And I was like, oh, Jesus, they're not showing much of Ursula, are they?
But yeah, no, she's great. So iser um yeah back to the lip sync though did you notice i thought that even though beverly won that i was
like one trick is fine yes she just kept throwing herself on the ground and i was like it's losing
its novelty you just keep like rolling around on the stage doing this splits it's like we get it
like it was impressive at first, but yeah, anyway.
She was, you know when a new baby calf gets born
and then it tries to walk on its legs for the first time
and it kind of jumps in the air and it kicks its limbs?
That's what she was acting like.
A brand new koala or giraffe had been born at Taronga Zoo,
kicking her legs around.
At one point she did like a backflip and a cartwheel
then landed in the splits too much and it didn't match the song.
Like, if the song is next level dance, but this was Kylie Minogue singing with some little
British gay boy.
Like, too much.
And then did you notice that Pamara obviously saw that she'd done the splits 40 times, and
she's like, oh, I better.
So she got down and did the splits as well.
I was like, guys, just dance.
That's what I want to see.
I know.
And that, I mean i mean look as a
drag i've seen every freaking lip sync there's ever been that has been done a hundred times like
that's not funny anymore everyone has they did that 10 years ago it's like think of something
new please i'm over the i'm over the stick i was happy to see her go because i didn't think she was
adding anything and i i don't know i loved her runway her runway was incredible and i love the
message that she stood for
on the runway and she looked gorgeous.
But I think she sort of hit her peak in the competition.
I really wanted to ask her about her beef with Minnie Cooper
because it was very much implied in episode two
that there was some history there.
Like Minnie used to mentor her or something.
There was just some mention about that.
That reminded me of when Jenna just – you know how Jenna sometimes
just starts speaking in
the middle of conversation for nothing.
Like Minnie, I don't know, went, well, you know what?
I mentored you and I didn't enjoy it.
It's like, where did that come from, Minnie?
What the fuck?
That's what I meant when I said last week, Minnie seemed like a bit of a pest.
But no, after this week, she's redeemed herself and I can go back to adoring her like I always
have.
Did you notice, I don't know if you would have noticed this, but I certainly did because I'm a Sherrilyn Barnes fan.
When Pamara left the stage, she said, pussy kiss.
And I was like, yes.
Are you trying to make that your own or is that like meant to be an in joke
with fellow Sherrilyn Barnes fans?
Because I'm like, you can't claim that.
That's the Sherrilyn thing.
Oh, you know what?
I will say something a bit off the record here, but at the Logies.
No, we're literally recording.
Off the record on the record.
Yeah.
That's like when people say receipt and reseat.
It's like different words.
I was having drinks, so drunk at the end of the Logies with Rhys Nicholson and Art Simone.
And Art was in drag and Rhys was there.
And it's like, you know, the Logies are a bit of a wank fest, but like three gay boys.
We kind of all know each other.
It's like, we'll just sit down and we can just not have to perform.
So we had like an hour just like sitting in the cold.
It was really nice.
And they gave me some goss.
So, you know, a bit of goss is that apparently one of the queens
asked to do Sherrilyn Barnes on Snatch Game,
which is the sketch show.
It's in the middle of every season, Mitch.
I mean, Snatch Game is like.
Yeah, I know what Snatch Game is.
They're doing it next week.
That's what I was going to ask Tamara.
What did you have planned for that?
Oh, well, yes.
So apparently one of the queens, obviously production want to know ahead of time who
they're going to be so they can prepare, you know, so they can sort of plan out the episode.
And someone wanted to be Sherilyn and production vetoed it.
They said no to Sherilyn because RuPaul doesn't like when other drag queens impersonate drag
queens that aren't him.
That's what I heard.
Right.
Okay.
Who says that Sherrilyn Barnes is a drag queen?
Last time I checked, she's a real woman.
It's not a character.
That's what I said.
I go, I don't understand.
What are you talking about?
That's exactly what I said to them.
But yeah, a bit of goss for you.
There you go.
Yeah, right.
No, I had heard that goss.
Sorry.
I didn't want to interrupt and say I've heard that.
Oh, well, maybe.
Just so you know, I'm very invested this season.
I'm across it all.
I'm impressed.
I'm impressed.
You need to start watching the, there'll be a new international one soon, and I want to
watch that.
I want you to watch that.
I've already watched episode one of that secret celebrity one.
Oh, what did you think?
I didn't know any of them.
Same.
I didn't like it.
It's like a Masked Singer ripoff, but a drag race version.
So they're all done up in drag, and you're not meant to recognize them.
And I didn't recognize any of them, probably because I don't know any of them,
apart from my old mate from Glee, which is clearly him.
Oh, which is so obvious.
There's something missing in the format.
I think they legally can't toy too close to the Masked Singer,
so they can't say, oh, who could it be?
Or they can't guess because there's been no guesses.
And that's what I think it misses.
I think that Rochelle, Carson, Rochelle, Michelle, Carson and Rue need to guess.
But who knows?
Yeah.
And also watching that, that's when I was like, oh, actually,
maybe the Australian production value isn't quite up to scratch
compared to other series.
Yeah.
You know how voice has been like, oh, the Aussie version looks the same.
Why is everyone staying down under Luke's budget?
And then I watched that secret celebrity, whatever the fuck. And I was like, oh, okay. And it looks the same. Why is everyone staying down under Luke's budget? And then I watched that secret celebrity, whatever the fuck.
And I was like, oh, okay, that was a big show.
Oh, Mitch, no, you need to watch Canada's Drag Race, which is a spinoff, and you need
to watch France, the Drag Race France.
And oh my God, you'll know instantly.
The production value is, you know, it's not a lot of history.
But I've heard that Canada is very, I've never seen it.
I'll say that.
But I've heard that Canada is very, I've never seen it. I'll say that. But I've heard that Canada is like equally not great.
And it's been voted the worst season of all time.
And Drag Race Season 1 comes in at the second worst of all time.
Listen, I, yeah, well, Canada was the first ever spinoff.
And I remember when Canada was announced, it was like, oh, my God,
this is the first non-RuPaul hosted season.
Everyone watched it.
So it had all that hype.
So I think that's why I enjoyed the first season of Canada's Drag Race.
I haven't watched one since.
That's all I'll say.
Yeah, right.
You know what I've realised about watching Drag Race?
Because I'm actually invested in this series.
I'm actually watching and discussing it every week.
It's got good talkability about it.
And I've realised this must be what football is for straight people. Yes, I think you're so right.
100%. I played it for my dad and he thought the exact same thing. He's like
they get eliminated? Oh and they've got fan bases? Yeah, the queens are the players.
Everyone watches them. And it just gives us all something to talk about.
I agree. Have you ever watched Drag Race? I mean obviously you know
this but many gay bars do, like they like put the show on and you can go and drink and dance and watch the show live at a gay club. Like it's a big communal thing. Like straight men go watch a fucking footy game. All the gay boys go to the gay's Drag Race was. I'd never heard of the show.
And we were texting and I was like, oh, what are you up to?
And he goes, oh, I'm at the pub watching Drag Race.
And I was like, oh, my God, he's so masc.
He watches Drag Race cars.
I thought he was at the pub watching actual drag racing.
And then it clicked later that it's a big old gay show.
It's Men in Wigs.
Well, look, I'm glad you're hooked.
Overall thoughts on this episode, my favourite yet. And I can't wait for Snatch Game. Let's been in weeks. Well, look, I'm glad you're hooked. Overall thoughts on this episode, my favourite yet,
and I can't wait for Snatch Game.
Let's do some predictions.
Who do you want to see impersonated on Snatch Game?
Aussie icons.
I reckon Julia Gillard has got to get a run.
Oh, that misogyny speech.
God, that'd be good.
Word for word.
Very funny.
I'd like Gillard.
Yeah, you're right.
Someone only did Pauline Hanson last season, didn't they?
No, I don't think they did.
Oh, I must be imagining that.
Pauline Hanson would be very funny, though.
You're very right.
Julie Bishop would be good. Another badass, sort of bitchy politician.
I'd love Tracy Grimshaw would be really funny.
There's a lot you can play with.
The Bob, always sitting at the desk,
ridiculous hoons and hooligans running amok.
Tracy would be good.
Jackie O.
What about Ida Buttrose?
Oh, Ida Buttrose!
That'd be really funny.
Yeah, and Buttrose, like that's funny.
Our very own Jackie O, I think,
actually could be a really good person to ham up.
What would the drag version of her be?
Tabacchio?
Well, no, you are actually playing them, so you'd just be her.
Oh, you don't have to give them a drag name.
I was just trying to fucking riff here, but don't work with me.
That's all right.
I'm a super fan of Cunt's Drag.
What are you, Beverly Kills?
No, Pamora Falf.
Fuck her name is.
Oh, look, I'm not glad we didn't get her, but yeah, you know.
Oh, well, apparently she has been bad-mouthing Carla,
and even though it's none of my business and I'm going to stay out of it,
there was part of me that felt like a guilty conscience if I were to, you know.
Give her a break, guys.
Carla's a bona fide celeb, all right?
You plebs, back off, Ben.
Oh, Mitchell.
Thank you very much.
Sorry.
All right, well, thank you for listening, everyone.
It was an absolute pleasure.
Thank you to all the messages I got.
A lot of people said, oh, we had to put up with all right, hey,
on the podcast.
We miss you, we miss you.
I went, oh, that's very sweet.
So love you all.
Have you listened yet?
No, I haven't.
Not yet, no.
Pete spoke very highly of you.
You're kidding.
I don't know why you do this, but you bag him out.
I didn't bag him out.
I said people said, oh, we missed you.
No, you said we had to put up with all right, hey.
I know what you were doing.
Don't backtrack.
Yeah, yeah, but it's, you know, they're my show.
They come looking to my show.
If you went to Baker's Delight, they said we've only got fish.
I'd be like, damn it, I do miss the bread.
You know what I mean?
Well, what do you expect me to do when you can't be available
for the recording?
I know, I know, I know.
I think you did a great job and Matt was fantastic.
Thank you.
I'm not knocking Matt.
All right, back next week with another Drag Race debrief
after Snatch Game.
It'll be very hot
and i who do you think out of the current queens will falter in the impersonation comedy challenge
maybe yuri yeah i can see that because during this week's challenge she openly wasn't that
confident so i don't know maybe she's one of those people that comes alive when they're hiding behind
a character i could be way off yeah Yeah, I think you're right.
I think Minnie will struggle unless it's someone that matches her energy.
I can't see her removing that energy.
So unless she plays a character that has that, I think it'll be hard.
Yeah, right.
Anyway, are we done here?
Yeah, for Drag Race Debrief.
I thought we weren't doing an episode.
I know.
Well, this is the most non-episode ever. Yeah, we ended up doing one. All right, everyone. We'll see you next week for Drag Race Debrief. I thought we weren't doing an episode. I know. Well, this is the most non-episode ever.
Yeah, we ended up doing one.
All right, everyone.
We'll see you next week for Drag Race Debrief.
Have a great week.
Love you.
Bye, darling.
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