It Could Happen Here - Abundance, Or How To Sell Tech Fascism To Liberals

Episode Date: September 9, 2025

Mia talks about the new Abundance movement, its ideas and how it operates as a Trojan horse for its funders Peter Thiel and the Koch Brothers.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Let us check in slightly further to the right, but still firmly in the grounds of liberalism, on a new movement called Abundance. What is abundance? Brust into prominence by a book in March 2025, simply called Abundance by liberal stalwart Ezra Klein and Derek Thompson, who is slightly the most well known, and features people like Matthew and Glacius. They argue that growth is good. They argue we should make more things.

They argue we should have bold visions of the future, with, to quote Malcolm Harris' description in the baffler, desalinated ocean water flowing from the taps, skyscraper farms growing our food indoors, and, quote, star pills, manufactured in space, clean air, and super-fast planes. Think big, think fast, solve problems by building more. They even have a new magazine runoff of Substack called The Argument, which is supposed to be about bringing these new ideas to the left. It includes Social Democratic stalwart Matt Prunach. Isn't that nice? Semaphore in the reporting on the launch of the argument wrote, quote, many of the arguments writers have supported, or in Thompson's case authored, the ideas of abundance, a recent book

advocating for reforms to improve government deficiency, lower the cost of housing, and improve public transportation among other initiatives. And those sound like good things, don't they? And those sound like good things, don't they? Let's take a look at who's funding the argument. It's funded in part by Emergent Ventures, which was created by the Koch Brothers Mercantus Center with seed money from Peter Thiel? Wait, what? They have a conference every year. They had one in 2024. The 2025 conference was last week. Who was speaking? The opponent's conference 2025 speakers include Charles Lehman from the right-wing Manhattan Institute, an organization founded by Ronald Reagan's director of the CIA?

Well, let's hear him out. Let's see what he thinks. Lehman advocates what he calls deportation abundance, which is his plan to make a more efficient deportation machine that could actually deport every undocumented person in the U.S. Wait, what? This conference is also sponsored by the Koch family's organizations stand together. It includes speakers from the American Enterprise Institute.

One of the co-sponsors of the event did another conference with special guest Kevin Roberts, the guy who wrote Project 2025. Isn't this supposed to be a liberal movement? Oh, no, what's going on here? Could abundance really be funded by all these right-wing billionaires and tech fashion? Just, oh no! As you may have guessed from the title, most of today's episode is going to be about what the people behind abundance actually want, and it's not what you or I want.

It is what Peter Thiel wants, what Mark Andreessen wants, what J.D. Vance wants. In a sense, it is what Donald Trump wants, because abundance as an ideology is an attempt by the tech oligarchs to take over. over the left the same way they took over the right. And that makes the ideology extremely dangerous. As we are going to unfail, this project is directly tied to many of the worst people in this country right now. It is tied to Peter Thiel. It is funded by Peter Thiel. It is funded by Mark Andrescent, who is another effectively Thielite who believes in most of the same, if not all of the same things that Teal does. These ideas are normally unexceptive.

on the liberal left. But because abundance is wrapped in the ideology of liberalism, because it wears the faces of liberal Star Wars like Ezra Klein, it can be smuggled in in a way that leaves the left and liberalism as a whole susceptible to broad ideological capture by the very same tech fascists we are all trying to oppose. before we fully get into what the funders of abundance actually want, let's talk a little bit about what the ideology of abundance is. The very, very basic ideology of abundance is that we need more things, we need to build more, and that government regulations are standing in the way of building things.

Now, if this sounds suspiciously Reaganite to you, that's because, in the sense it is. Asra Klein describes this as progressive supply-side economics. Now, supply-side economics, famously, is Reagan's thing. You will note that basically everyone across the entire political spectrum, at least sort of when pressed, will agree that supply-side economics simply does not work.

But let's hear them out. I think another way to understand what abundance is and why it works the way that it does is to look at it in the context not of American political ideology and debates, but of Chinese political debates. Now, Chinese political debates have, for much of the last decade, really a decade and a half,

taken the form of arguments about either increasing the size of the pie or splitting the pie more evenly. On the left, you have a case for redistribution, right? For higher taxation, for higher welfare benefits, for giving people things

from the states and redistributing it from rich people to the poor. On the rights, you have growing the pie, which argues that instead of redistributing wealth, we should simply grow more wealth, and that wealth will trickle down to everyone else. Wait, this is just Reaganism again. It's all Reaganism. This is the very frustrating thing about abundance, is that when you actually go past the language they're using and you look at what they think will happen, it's just trickle down economics again. It's just trickle down economics, and abundance is on the right wing side of it. Now, you know, there are definitely arguments for places where we do in fact need to build more things, right? And this argument

has become particularly prominent with the rise of Yimbism. And like, yeah, I don't know, building more houses is good. I mean, it was it was literally a demand of the Hungarian revolution, right? Like, yeah, we need more of it. But comma, we need to be very, very careful here. Because the way that abundance structures its arguments and the ways that, for example, a really, really vulgar version of Yimbism has been deployed by these people in order to just sort of wholesale oppose government regulations. And we're not just talking about things here like eliminating zoning requirements, right? We are talking about, as we'll get into later, the people behind this movement wants to

create their own city, states, and special economic zones where no government regulations supply. But the fundamental argument here is that lifting government restrictions on production will, you know, increase the size of the market, and because prices just supply and demand, prices will fall because there's more supply. None of this is how markets actually work. One of the crucial insights of anthropology is that markets are not simply neutral objective forces that function according to precise mathematical laws. They are socially constructed. even in neoclassical economics, by their own logic, price is not just supply and demand.

That's something that's only true in perfectly competitive markets. Imperfectly competitive markets do not exist. They probably cannot exist, but they do not exist in the real world, and they do not represent something like the housing market. In the real world, markets are defined by power. Neoclassical economists attempt to explain the role of power in markets, through monopoly, right? You know, you can look at monopoly and monopsony.

There are a bunch of very different things that they think are sort of deviations of this perfect competitive market where people band together to build power and thus are able to distort what the perfect free market should be doing. And this is a feature of basically every market that actually exists, right?

There aren't perfectly competitive markets. They all have power in them and they all have degrees of monocon. to use a sort of Marxian term in them as well. Now, do you know what else has a degree of monopoly? That's right. It is the products and services that support this podcast. You hear that excuse? I don't know if you don't lie about that, right? Lauren came in.

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with abundance long long ago in a galaxy far far away I explained rent on this show and this is specifically here rent in the context of what you pay to your landlords, I promise this will circle back to this will circle back to sort of abundance yimbism in a second. I attempted to explain rent by drawing on the work of the legendary Venezuelian anthropologist Fernando Corrineal to argue that the

rent that we pay to our landlords function similarly to oil rent, reprice is not set by supply and demand, but instead by the social power of oil producers. Now, people got very, very mad at me for this, but the long deray of history has vindicated me. In the real world, it turns out, I was right. The most powerful example of this in the housing market is the case of RealPage, a service that allowed landlords to get recommendations on their pricing based on information from all the landlords who submitted their data, thus creating an algorithmic machine for price fixing. This got bad enough that even the Bighton Justice Department got involved. Here's from the Department of Justice's lawsuit against Real Page, quote, real page acknowledge that its software

is aimed at maximizing prices for landlords, referring to its products as, quote, driving every possible opportunity to increase price, avoiding the race to the bottom in down markets, and, quote, a rising tide raises all ships. A Real Page executive observed that its products help landlords avoid competing on the merits, noting, quote, there is a greater good in everybody's succeeding versus essentially trying to compete against one another in a way that actually keeps the entire industry down. A Real Page executive explains to a landlord that using competitor data can help identify situations where a landlord may have a $50 increase instead of $10 increase for the day. Another landlord commented about Real Page's product. I always like this

product because your algorithm's used proprietary data from other subscribers that suggest rents and terms. That's classical price fixing. Now, I was derived. for arguing that landlords would ban together using their social power to prevent rents from falling even with units sit and empty. And it turns out, I was right the whole time. They were doing exactly that. It turns out, in the actual real world of the market, all of these companies on all of these landlords had found a way to ban together in order to use their social power and use the information in their possession to fix the price of rent. here is from Reuters, drawing from yet another lawsuit this time from the Attorney General of D.C.

A monthly report from W.C. Smith in 2022 showed the company had increased revenues per unit by 4.6 to 4.7% despite decreased occupancy levels according to the lawsuit. So what is that saying? That is saying that the actual number of people in these apartments is decreasing. of apartments staying open that have no one in them is increasing, but the price is not going down. Even though there's more supply, the price is still going up. Why is the price still going up? Well, well, well, the Justice Department calls this price fixing, large-scale collusion to disrupt the functioning of the perfectly normal competitive market. The anthropologist Fernando Corrineal, as I argued before, calls it absolute rent. Rent extracted by virtue

of the social power of the landowner. As I wrote in that episode, quote, absolute rent does not obey the law of supply and demand. It is the product of social power, of the power of landownership itself and the organization of the landowning class, and they're backing by the state

and its militaries and police. And this causes economists attempting to use supply and demand to explain rent to get very, very important events, very wrong. Morris Edelman, the famous oil economist, predicted in 1972,

that the price of oil was going to collapse based on oversupply and competition. Instead, it increased 400% between 1973 and 1974 because oil producers banded together to exercise their power and their organization, known as OPEC, became a genuine world power. As Corneal put it, quote, The sharp increase of 1973 and 1974 in oil prices did not result from a world shortage of oil. It was, rather, the outcome of a long historical process by which OPEC nations, Acting as landowners developed a means to extract a rent on the basis of their ownership of

the oil fields, an absolute rent, in addition to the differential rents they had collected in the past. In 1973, a set of converging political and economic conditions helped establish their collective ability to restrict the world supply of oil. With this power, OPEC felt entitled to set the market price of oil, thus freeing the level of rent from the previous constraints of market price. Now rent itself, absolute and differential, would determine the market price of oil. What does that sound like? Oh, it sounds like Real Page's price-fixing algorithm. Why does it sound like Real Page's price-fixing algorithm? It's because, in the real world, markets are not neutral institutions that operate according to neutral laws. Their institutions

created and enforced by the state. Landlords can jack up your rent because they wield collective power together and have the ability to use the state to drag you out of your home at gunpoint. abundance is, to a large extent, an attempt to harness widespread discontent over the price of goods, the price of rent, the price of food, and argue that you can simply produce more and this will make all of the prices go down. But as we've seen here, as long as the social power is held by the rent extractors, they can simply set their own price. None of this is addressed in abundance, and there's a simple reason for that. The people funding the abundance agenda are the very same people profiting from their social power.

So let's talk about the money. I'm going to be quoting here from a report from prospect, which is very good. The Institute for Progress, IFP, which co-hosted Abundance, 2024, and is listed as a key institutional partner by the Inclusive Abundance Initiative, has a bevy of corporate ties. In 2022, IFP received $110,000 from FAI and has FAI's executive director on its board. Now, FAA is the Foundation for American Innovation. I'm going to read, this is also an abundance co-host, which is very funny. I am going to read a quote from Kate Willett, who has also done some excellent reporting on this,

and she describes how the FAA hosted another conference in 2024 called Reboot. The quote, surprise guest of the conference was Kevin Roberts, president of the Heritage Foundation and chief architect of 2025. Now, back to the Institute for Progress. Part of what's going on here, right, is that this is an, you know, what I'm trying to emphasize by how confusing this whole thing is, is that abundance is composed of a series of think tanks and weird institutes that are all tied into a bunch of tech money, right? Keeping the acronym straight is very difficult. You do not need to hold all of them in your head. The other thing that you need to understand about this, right, is if you look at who is co-hosting these conferences and who is behind these books and who is behind these media outlets,

a very, very clear picture starts to emerge. I'm going to go back to quoting from prospect. One of the funders of the Institute for Progress was Emergent Ventures, which is a product of the Cokeback Mercantus Institute at George Mason University. Emergent itself was launched by a grant from Peter Thiel. Peter Thiel is a right-wing billionaire with a vast influence network at the intersection of techno-futurism and anti-democratic thought, who has called technology an alternative to democratic politics.

Small D. Democratic, by the way, he means the concept of democracy, to, quote, unilaterally change the world. Vice President-elect J.D. Vance is a known scion of Peter Thiel. Let's look at the Chamber of Progress, another one of the groups that is heavily involved in abundance. Chamber of Progress, which self-identifies its work as part of a growing abundance policy movement, is a trade group started with Google Seed Money. By Google alum, Adam Kovacovich.

Kovacovic proudly touts his college activism, leading an effort to cross-seid. a united farm workers picket line. The Chamber of Progress's partners. Reefunders include A16Z, Circle, Coinbase, Google, Cracken, Ripple, Waymo, and Drison Horowitz, or A16Z, is a venture capital firm heavily invested in AI and crypto. Co-founder Mark Andresen believes the technology is the solution to every problem. He's also on Medas Board. He is also a theolyte tech fascist. This is it in some sense a very, very interesting collusion of forces, right? We have the Koch brothers who are, you know, sort of the ancient libertarian right side of Republican dark money. They are, you know, the people who have traditionally funded right-wing movements

in the past. They are the Tea Party people. They are, you know, they are sort of the boogeyman under the bed for anyone who has wanted to make the world a better place for a very very long time. And they and their organizations are working with the emergent tech fascist right. You know, people like, people like Mark Andresen, people with Peter Thiel. And these are the organizations that have gotten in bed together in order to do this. Now, these people have a bunch of absolutely hideous beliefs. We're not even going to get in to the eugenics here, but like these, the people funding this thing are huge eugenicists. We literally do not have time to do all of the eugenic shit associated with this

because if if I were to actually do the eugenic I mean we talked about some of like Maddie and Glacius's bullshit on this podcast earlier but like if I actually went through and did this this episode would be like 12 hours long I am going to cover this sort of network state peer

theolyte eugenics circle at some point later that is a forthcoming episode but yeah for now here are these ads hopefully are not eugenics Woo! You know if you're going to lie about that, right?

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So let's get back. to who I think are really the two primary villains of this story. And that is Peter Thiel and Mark Andresen, who are two of the most dangerous people in the entire world. Teal and Andresen are fascists who believe the state should be a corporation run by the tech elite. They do not believe in democracy, and particularly Thiel has said that democracy is the enemy of freedom. Right?

When these people talk about running the state like a business, they mean that there should be an unaccountable fucking philosopher's CEO king and that there shouldn't be democracy. A common feature of this, and, you know, the physical manifestation of this thing is an idea called the network state. And a very common theme of the founders of abundance is their support for the network state, both as a concept and in terms of building them. So what is the network state?

The network state is, to a large extent, the thing I've just been describing, right? the version of it that they pitch is that these are like opportunity zones, right? They're these like tech cities that will eventually become like real states that are based off of

special economic zones where, you know, special economic zones where like the normal regulations to the state do not apply so you can, you know, do whatever you want, right? You can, we can build prosperity

by having no government regulations and run everything through corporations. These network states would be, again, actual straight-up corporations that own and control territory and run it as the state. These states are already coming into existence. Maybe the most important is Prospera, a corporate city for profit in Honduras that is run

by a corporation, again, in a special economic zone where the state does not apply. It does not have a mayor. It has someone appointed by the corporation who runs the city. This is happening all over the world, particularly in developing countries, where it is being pushed by all of these just absolutely demonic tech goals, and they're also being started and attempts are being started to run them in the United States. I'm going to quote here from Shane Lee's Venture Capital, blog Venture Capital status, which is a very, very good resource on the network state, which we'll be covering more fully later because we don't have time to do

much more than a brief introduction to their ideas here. In Salero County, California, a cartel of venture capitalists associated with Andresen Horowitz, which is, again, Mark Andreessen's firm, bought up over 65,000 acres of rich, fertile farmland and using secretive and threatening methodologies, including suing local farmers. They plan to build a city with weapons developments and manufacturing, aerospace and robotics companies, shipbuilding homes and schools. This network state is called California Forever. Also in California, there's has been a discussion by network state operatives of taking over Presidio

in San Francisco. And there is a network state planned in Sumona County. Its founder is a, quote, former promoter's venture capitalists. These are the same people funding abundance. Here's from Kate Willett again. One of the California Forever billionaires,

California Forever is, again, the name of the network state they want to set up by buying a bunch of land in Salado County. One of the California Forever billionaires Patrick Coleson, the CEO of Stripe, Looms Large and Abundance World. Along with Open Philanthropy, he donated to fund a $120 million abundance grant tied to Ezra Klein's book release.

Colson is a key backer and inspiration for the Institute for Progress, a think tank, which works closely with others in the Abundance Network, including the Abundance 2020 for conference. The goal of the network state movement is to accelerate the destruction of the United States. States and create these corporate network states in their wake. They want the world to be composed of these networks of venture capital tech corporations run and ruled by them by the tech elite for profit. These are the people that are funding all of these fucking movements. These are the people funding the argument. These are the people funding the abundance conference. These are the people that people like Ezra Klein

have been brought in to run cover for. These are Trump people. They are the forces behind J.D. Vance. They want to inflict their vision of tech fascism on the world. But they are hideously popular in power. In order to achieve

their agenda, they cannot simply rely on their incredible hegemony on the right. They need you. They need your buy-in. They need the support of good and kind-hearted liberals who they can radicalize into Trumpian tech fascists

this is their opening gambit and they've played it well but there is still time for them to fail and there is still time for us to build a future built by us and for us by and for each other based on mutual aid and the benefit of all a world without death squads and ice

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