It Could Happen Here - Agenda 47: Trump's Plan For Trans Kids

Episode Date: April 10, 2024

Mia and Gare discuss Trump's plan to ban gender affirming care for youth, prevent government insurance from paying for any transition, and force teachers to teach sexism.See omnystudio.com/listener fo...r privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:01:59 hi okay so we're covering another aspect of Trump's Agenda 47. Alright, we're looking at President Trump's plan to protect children from left-wing gender insanity. Now, despite that title, this is the least Trumpy of all of these. He is just phoning this one the fuck in. It's the most him reading off a teleprompter I have ever seen in any speech he's ever given. Because historically, he's never cared about this kind of stuff. He's just having to do it now to appease
Starting point is 00:02:32 the people he needs to get votes from. But like, if you look at Trump's stances on transgender people historically, however not good, they're not like genocidal. And you can really tell his heart isn't in it he i mean legitimately he sounds like someone doing an ad read for a rage shadow legend
Starting point is 00:02:52 sponsorship like it's it's he's so bored there's like one it's funny because you can tell there's something that started happening in the middle of the administration was you could tell when his speech writers were just writing in a trump word for him to say, so it would look less like he was. They're doing it in this one. There's only like one genuinely Trumpy thing in this. Unfortunately, it all fucking sucks ass. It's quite bleak. So let's get into what exactly is in this. I would love to hear Trump's plan for the transgender. Yeah, so first he wants to end Biden's executive order on gender affirming care. Now you might be asking, wait, Mia, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:03:30 Wait, what executive order? I had to look this up too. Cause I was like, wait, what is he talking about? So apparently back in 2022, Biden issued a series of executive orders that were supposed to protect the rights of trans kids to get gender affirming care so that didn't happen no no no these were yeah these were mostly stunningly ineffective well let's i'm gonna quote from i i finally found the actual executive order which is disturbingly hard to find the actual text of because everyone just wanted you to read the press release because what's actually in it is, okay. The Secretary of Health and Human Services shall, as appropriate and consistent with applicable law, use the Department of Health and Human Services authority to project LGBTQI plus individuals access to medically necessary care from harmful state and local laws and practices, and practices and shall promote the adoption of promising policies and practices to support health equity, including in the area of mental health for LGBTQI youth and adults.
Starting point is 00:04:30 Within 200 days of this order, the Secretary of HHS shall develop and release sample policies for states to safeguard and expand access to health care for LGBTQI individuals and their families, including mental health care services. individuals and their families including mental health care services now let's pull out for one second to try to figure out what what does that actually do so what is being done there the thing that is being commanded is that the department of health and human services makes sample guidelines for states and then there's another part where they're talking about how they were going to form a committee to study trans mental health care uh-huh so none of this did shit right but this is the first thing that trump's like we're going to overturn this i guess the actual
Starting point is 00:05:19 substantive shift here is and we'll get to this in a bit this didn't do anything this was just a pr op he does and this is funny because he does a series of these things every single trans day of visibility and then nothing ever happens because yeah joke we've had like so many states since 2022 completely restrict health care for trans people under the age of 18. And I've not heard of a single instance where the federal government has intervened to help a kid get puberty blockers in a state where they pass these sorts of bills. I will say this.
Starting point is 00:05:57 The Justice Department has done lawsuits. Sure, sure. And I think they won one of them. So that's not literally nothing it's just mostly nothing like and then this is the thing it's coming through the judiciary not through the federal bureaucracy and that's a point of contrast that i want to get to because trump you know and this is something that's that's always been true about sort of the use of executive power by democratic versus republican presidents right sure you know they're like the democrats sometimes do
Starting point is 00:06:26 use like massive executive power overreach things like for example obama's claim to have the legal authority to kill any man woman or child moment they step off the u.s door regardless of citizenship status i think that he used to kill a 16 year old american citizen in yemen so that he does that sometimes right but they don't do anything useful with it. And now let's get to what Trump is going to do with this. Quote, sign a new executive order instructing every federal agency to cease all programs that promote the concept of sex and gender transition at any age. Ask Congress to permanently stop federal taxpayer dollars from being used to promote or pay for these procedures.
Starting point is 00:07:04 Okay. So that's bad. What exactly this does is kind of murky. We're going to talk about Planned Parenthood in a second because there's another one of these proposals that's a lot worse for Planned Parenthood. And I guess that'd be going after some level of government insurance if you're trying to get uh medical care paid for if you
Starting point is 00:07:26 have government insurance i guess that'd be what that's trying to target yeah i think there's like two things one and i think this is the main target is well i don't know it's sort of unclear but i the two main targets i think are any kind of federal education program that talks about queer people sure and then the second one yeah it's like like if you're in the military you won't be able to transition anymore because or if and this is actually a pretty big deal because there are a lot of federal employees um the federal employees health insurance would no longer cover anti-gender affirming care and this is for everyone right this is not unfortunately yes a lot of transgender employees at the dot yep so that's very bad fly those drones oh god oh you meant oh
Starting point is 00:08:11 you went dod yes the department of no you said dot department of transportation i was like well yeah that too there's a bunch of well yes also because people are into trains yes no but i meant i i meant the dod yeah no trains and drones you know it's bad there's an open question here about how exactly this works so one question that i i'm genuinely not sure about there's a possibility this works like abortion funding where so federal money can't go to promoting abortions i think there's some very weird stuff with usaid money overseas so sometimes happens but i don't know someone i'm not i'm not a usaid expert but you know so for example you you so if you are a a clinic that does abortions right you can take federal money you just can't use the federal money for the abortions so it's possible that you know for example so one of the one of the the informed
Starting point is 00:09:10 consent clinics in chicago takes federal money for hiv treatment under this wording it seems like they could still get federal funding for that but they couldn't take any money for gender affirming care but also congress could just pass a bill that stops i'm pretty sure could pass a bill that stops all funding for anyone who does this so you know but this is something that's kind of interesting about these is that this stuff is all very very bad it's also not quite the maximalist genocidal policy yet i think in large part because they haven't taken power and because the the groups who are like pushing this stuff this is actually kind of an older um this is this is from february 2023 so okay it's that it's actually a lot older than a lot of the other stuff here and
Starting point is 00:09:57 but even even back like in 2023 the beginning of the year stuff was less radical than it is now yeah that was before the big we must eliminate transgenderism yeah thing that started with the daily wire then trump mirrored some of that rhetoric in his like a c-pack talk from that spring yeah it was it was kind of a ramp up but like on some of like the quote-unquote transgenderism rhetoric really was getting more popular around that time the the kind of groomer rhetoric from the year previous 2022 was starting to kind of fade away and they were finding a new thing to replace it yeah so so there's a there's a good just a decent chance that this stuff is all actually much worse when it gets implemented that that's the way it's written right now as
Starting point is 00:10:40 best as i can tell so the third one and this one is a fiasco any hospital or health care provider who either like gives up puberty blockers or does gender affirming surgery for minors or gives hormones to minors can't accept medicare medicaid they get knocked off of the approved list okay so that is a huge deal because that immediately knocks out Planned Parenthood. Planned Parenthood gets this Sophie's Choice thing of either you don't provide gender-affirming care of either hormones or puberty blockers to kids, or you lose every single person who uses Medicare or Medicaid. And that's a lot of people. That's like, I've seen numbers that suggest it's like 40% of people who use Planned Parenthood
Starting point is 00:11:30 use particularly Medicare, and this is a complete fiasco. I also wonder how this would impact, like, cis children who need to be put on puberty blockers, because people forget that, like, puberty blockers because people forget that like puberty
Starting point is 00:11:45 blockers have been a thing for like decades and decades and are like well proven to be safe and effective for delaying puberty it does not stop puberty from happening altogether it does not castrate you permanently or any of these kind of wild claims yeah well and the stuff that's weird here too is like it's the language they're using is really inflammatory shit. So it's actually deeply unclear what the fuck they're talking about. language that would ultimately if written and acted upon as written would like block a whole bunch of regular medical procedures from happening they're often confused about why they're being asked about this because they're like no obviously things will continue on as normal and if we have to amend the bill to like change this this one little thing uh then we'll do that they don't actually think about all the little tiny ways that this also just like interferes with like
Starting point is 00:12:43 regular medical science yeah and they they just they don't care because they know it's because they're never going to prosecute for stuff like that it just isn't it they're genuinely not thinking about those other use cases at all yeah and like i'm gonna read the the first sentence or the first one of these like the text of it revoke joe biden's cruel policies on so-called gender affirming care in quotes a process that includes giving kids puberty blockers mutating their physical appearance and ultimately performing surgery on minor children so that's like not real that's not what gender affirming care is no so but the thing is right it's it's fucking
Starting point is 00:13:22 impossible to tell whether this would result in them actually banning all gender affirming care whatsoever, which includes other stuff as well. Or if it's just a more limited ban, like who the fuck knows, because they're not being specific at all. So this can mutate into a whole bunch of stuff. one of the other immediate sort of impacts of banning particularly of banning medicaid is that like there's a lot of trans people on it because trans people are significantly poorer than cis people so i mean just just to take like a random statistic um so the unemployment rate right now in the u.s is 3.8 the unemployment rate for trans people is 18 which is a 1935 great depression levels of unemployment so you know if you if you're a trans person out there and you're listening to people tell you how great the economy is and
Starting point is 00:14:10 you're like what the fuck is going on the answer is that you literally do not live in the same world as assist people who are telling you this you live in 19 in the 1930 in 1935 great depression so yeah and but the and you know so so cutting off one of the ways that people can access medical care if they you know can't afford it is a fucking disaster this is going to i don't like presumably if this goes through it's the only way that you're going to be able to get like gender affirming care if you're a kid is by having rich parents and going to like some kind of clinic that doesn't take medicaid or medicare medicaid yeah so you know what else doesn't take medicare medicaid actually who knows i don't know look i it's a bad time to be doing that Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more.
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Starting point is 00:18:21 pass a law prohibiting child sexual mutilation in all 50 states. So... So this is, see, this is a great example of the thing i was just talking about how like theoretically if one was a smart ass you'd be like oh so you're banning circumcision you're like no of course not because they they're not thinking about this sort of thing this is this is like yeah no it's just yeah trans kids can't get which also like almost never happens there may be like one or two very bizarre like outliers where someone has gone through extensive therapy from a very young age that might result in them receiving such surgery at like 16 or 17 but that is such a minuscule amount
Starting point is 00:18:56 that that simply just does not happen yeah in any real statistical uh no shit you know but i mean but this is one of these things that's hard because it's like okay so like what are they actually what are they talking about and the answer is who the fuck knows this they think this is happening well no but but also like because like you know because one of the things that they do here right is they'll talk about female like they'll talk about like genital mutilation like whatever but they'll also include in that like puberty blockers yeah of course because because to them puberty blockers are like a chemical castration device yeah and it's all
Starting point is 00:19:32 you know this is one of these things but you know but the the thing i i should mention about this one that is i don't know it's something i'm sort of hesitant to talk about because i i don't know like i don't like i'm torn between wanting sort of hesitant to talk about because i i don't know like i don't like i'm torn between wanting to spread panic and wanting to be like well this is probably what's going to happen but there's a non-zero chance that with how far this stuff has gone that if republicans take the house and the senate that this bill turns into just a full band because that's what's being pushed for now by the sort of constituencies that this stuff is for it's just like a full ban on all care it's way less popular than even the anti-trans kid stuff which is not very popular but on the other hand like this is i mean this entire thing is just
Starting point is 00:20:16 trump sort of like being like yeah sure whatever to these like these weird anti-trans dipshits yeah there certainly are a percentage of republican politicians and like right-wing influencers who who do want some of these bills to expand up to just including everyone or everyone under the age of 25 as we've mentioned before i i still don't think there's it's it's too too far off to say whether or not this is something to actually worry about in any real sense. It's too murky. Yeah, but on the other hand,
Starting point is 00:20:54 he is very explicit on just banning care for minors. That's just in the text, right? The next one is one of the... is like one of the sort of almost every bill that gets passed by a state legislature now has this provision that creates like, quote, the private right of action for victims to sue doctors for anyone who got any kind of gender affirming care as a minor.
Starting point is 00:21:22 This is we've talked about this on the show before. This is this is, you know, this is a thing that lets detrans grifters who think that god talks to them like try to go and destroy like doctors and clinics yeah it's it's one of the tactics that they use to try to like run people who they can't otherwise go after legally out of existence so you know that that that's like a that's just a sort of normal classic anti-trans thing that they want to bring to well i guess the other important part of it is it is having this on a national level lets them target clinics in like blue states that they otherwise normally wouldn't be able to yeah i mean that's the big goal of a lot of this federal stuff yeah it's being able to actually have it affect like new
Starting point is 00:22:08 york california the other half of the country whereas because right-wing governors are doing all this sort of stuff in a lot of the red states but that is not satisfying to a lot of these people they the reason why this is being pushed on a federal level is to try to put as much pressure on blue states as they can just out of the desire for sheer human misery yep now speaking of the desire for human misery so there is there is just a there is one very trump one that i've actually haven't seen before quote direct the department of justice to investigate big pharma the big hospital networks to determine whether they deliberately covered up horrific long-term side effects of, quote, sex transitions to get rich at the expense of vulnerable patients or illegally marketed hormones and puberty blockers which are in no way licensed or approved for this use.
Starting point is 00:23:00 That's, that's deeply funny because it's just like nothing he's saying is real. that's that's deeply funny because it's just like nothing he's saying is real no like all that's fake the long-term side effects of sex transition is being extremely based and cool but no like there's also there's just nothing to support any of that notion so even if the doj does investigate this they're not going to find anything because no one's trying to market testosterone or estrogen to like make money off it. I know this is one thing that certain freaks at the Daily Wire try to talk about, be like, ooh, the shady pharmaceutical companies are making all this money off of estrogen.
Starting point is 00:23:32 It just isn't true. Most people aren't paying for estrogen anyway. They're getting it through health insurance. The most I have to pay for is the fucking needles. And also, the thing about estrogen is the majority of the people who get estrogen are cis women yes yes like so the majority of people who get testosterone
Starting point is 00:23:52 are male bodybuilders yeah it's like have you ever fucking tried to like get a like get like like even something like facial feminization surgery which is like technically speaking is like a fairly highly paid from when he was plastic surgeon. Do you know how long the waiting lists are for that? You can't even pay them to do this to you. You have to pay them and then wait for fucking years because no one does it. It's like it's something that I think coming off of like the opioid epidemic. that I think coming off of the opioid epidemic,
Starting point is 00:24:24 we have certain influencers online who are trying to find different ways to tie in big pharma to whatever thing they're currently talking about. And they're trying to do that with trans healthcare. And it just, honestly, it doesn't... The reason why it hardly gets talked about, because it doesn't lead anywhere.
Starting point is 00:24:39 It'll get a passing mention in the What is a Woman documentary. It'll get this passing mention by Trump. But you don't actually see anything on a legislative level actually targeting this. Because it's just, there's just nothing to do. There's nothing to investigate. Also, all of these drugs are approved and tested for all of these things. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And have been for, like, decades.
Starting point is 00:24:58 So, like, it's simply not real. Yeah, I mean, this is the thing where, I mean, I think the actual effect of this with DOJ would just be Trump doing, doing like random witch hunts and like going through and like rating patients files for shit which like i could hepa hepa you're not allowed not allowed i i don't think the trump justice department is gonna give us well here's the thing is the supreme court gonna stop them no of course the supreme court's going to stop. This is such a non-problem because there's just nothing to do here. Yeah, but it's like, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:25:29 I think the prospect of Trump realizing he could actually just do unlimited judicial tyranny and do whatever the fuck he wants in the Supreme Court. Sure. 7-2 will be like, yeah, cops have the right to execute trans prisoners or some shit.
Starting point is 00:25:44 Yeah, but that's not what's currently being talked about yeah yeah yeah yeah but i mean i i do i i i do think there'll be sort of like fake scaremongering investigations i don't sure i just don't think it'll lead on this list at all i just don't think it'll lead anywhere i think it's mostly just like a wild goose chase to satisfy whatever fucking person who watches too many right-wing podcasts on youtube so that like it's it's i don't see this as anything like super pressing the next one i think actually could be real depending on how motivated they are to do it so the next one so this is a ban on teachers and anyone who works so this this is this is supposed to be a directive sent down from the department
Starting point is 00:26:22 of education and it and it says no one who works for a school so no teachers or any school administration can tell a kid that might be trans and that the consequences for this are civil like civil rights like investigations into them and also the elimination of federal funding for any school district where this happens okay and that's this is effect what what this effectively is is a threat to cut off federal funding from states if they don't implement what is effectively a don't say trans bill that one i think that one's going to be pretty real it kind of depends on the extent to which the department of education is willing to spend a bunch of time going through individual
Starting point is 00:27:05 cases, but given that it's possible, the Department of Education just gets filled with a bunch of deranged Trump weirdos. I think there's a real chance that this one actually goes through and does stuff. Yeah, and the other thing with that
Starting point is 00:27:21 one is because that's a directive through federal agencies, it doesn't have to go through Congress, which is sort of alarming. It's, I don't know, it's one of these things where it's a question of how powerful is the federal bureaucracy going to be, and I tend to lean towards the side of the federal bureaucracy has an immense capacity to cause harm. The last part is he wants to get a bill in Congress that ends all recognition of there being non-binary people and saying that the only genders are man and woman. So this would do things immediately like getting rid of the X gender marker on passports and only recognizing people's assigned gender at birth, which means the government is now saying that only two genders exist and also that the federal bureaucracy gets to assign you a gender which is you know normally the exact kind of federal tyranny the republican party decries but you know they hate us do they ever do they ever actually decry that sort of tyranny federal why federal tyranny they're supposed to also i think it's supposed to be their thing it's also less like
Starting point is 00:28:25 the federal government declaring your gender it's like whatever random doctor fills out the paper but sure but the the but the the the government now is forcing you to in their eyes be whatever gender that they decide that you are yes and we've had we we've had some stuff like this try to get yeah through uh in europe and certain certain certain u.s states for like their own state ids yeah so that's part i don't know why this bill is these three things lumped together but it's the bill this specific bill is this one using title nine to stop trans women from playing in women's sports in college or in schools sure and then protecting the right of the parent to keep
Starting point is 00:29:06 their kid from transitioning which is fucking so that's fascinating because protecting the right of the parent to make to have your kid not transition that that's some really interesting wording there yeah well so let me read the exact the exact wording is protects the rights of parents from being forced to allow their child to assume a new gender identity without the parents consent. Yeah, so they're referring to the types of parental Bill of Rights laws. Yeah, that have passed in like six Republican states. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:29:45 is really interesting and it kind of gives the game away as to what this is all like what the actual point of this is for someone like trump who's not that interested doesn't like trans people but isn't that interested and this one i'm okay i'm gonna read it first as part of our new credentialing system credentialing body for teachers we will promote positive education about the nuclear family the role of mothers and fathers and celebrating rather than erasing the things that make men and women different and unique sure so this is this is literally this is this is legislating institutional like sexism education yes and you know we've talked about the credentialing stuff it's unclear to me how this would work because it's not it's not quite the same credentialing thing that you were talking about but basically this is a federal mandate that says that you can't be a teacher without teaching sexism um which is i'm sure i'm sure the teachers
Starting point is 00:30:36 unions will love to take that one on yeah well i you know i'm i and this is one of the things that i i i don't know i mean you have to like go go into like walking with a stick and beat them on it. But I am so excited for the Trump administration to have to deal with an actual national teacher strike. Like have fun with that one. You dipshits. This is why these types of conservatives really, really hate teachers union. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:31:02 Yeah. They frame teachers unions as being like one of like the most evil lobbying forces in america because they really don't like that they don't have complete total control over teaching uh uh kids whatever kind of fucked up nuclear family patriarchal bullshit that they want to like mandate by law yeah and so they're going to attempt to do they're they're going to attempt to ever they're gonna they're gonna make everyone watch a shitty matt walsh documentary or some shit and if you complain about it they they they prosecute you under the civil rights act for being good luck
Starting point is 00:31:41 discrimination or something so that's that's that that's Trump's plan to protect children from left-wing gender insanity. It's really quite bad, as funny as some of it is. I mean, it's a bunch of gender-affirming care bans sort of stitched together with stuff trying to knock hospitals out from doing it stitched to the the just the sexism law very cool yeah it's quite bad come back tomorrow for probably even worse shit i don't remember which one is tomorrow but you'll find out when we do.
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