It Could Happen Here - Agenda 47: Trump's Plan For Trans Kids
Episode Date: April 10, 2024Mia and Gare discuss Trump's plan to ban gender affirming care for youth, prevent government insurance from paying for any transition, and force teachers to teach sexism.See omnystudio.com/listener fo...r privacy information.
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and current president doesn't give a shit i'm your host neil wong with me is garrison
hi okay so we're covering another aspect of Trump's Agenda 47.
Alright, we're looking at President Trump's plan to protect children from left-wing gender insanity.
Now, despite that title, this is the least Trumpy of all of these.
He is just phoning this one the fuck in.
It's the most him reading off a teleprompter I have ever seen in any speech he's ever
given. Because historically, he's never
cared about this kind of stuff. He's just having
to do it now to appease
the people he needs to get votes
from. But like, if you look
at Trump's stances on transgender people
historically, however
not good, they're not
like genocidal. And you
can really tell his heart isn't in it
he i mean legitimately he sounds like someone doing an ad read for a rage shadow legend
sponsorship like it's it's he's so bored there's like one it's funny because you can tell there's
something that started happening in the middle of the administration was you could tell when
his speech writers were just writing in a trump word for him to say, so it would look less like he was. They're doing it
in this one. There's only like one genuinely Trumpy thing in this. Unfortunately, it all
fucking sucks ass. It's quite bleak. So let's get into what exactly is in this.
I would love to hear Trump's plan for the transgender.
Yeah, so first he wants to end
Biden's executive order on gender affirming care. Now you might be asking, wait, Mia, what the fuck?
Wait, what executive order? I had to look this up too. Cause I was like, wait, what is he talking
about? So apparently back in 2022, Biden issued a series of executive orders that were supposed
to protect the rights of trans kids to get gender affirming care so that didn't happen no no no these were yeah these were mostly stunningly
ineffective well let's i'm gonna quote from i i finally found the actual executive order which
is disturbingly hard to find the actual text of because everyone just wanted you to read the press
release because what's actually in it is, okay.
The Secretary of Health and Human Services shall, as appropriate and consistent with applicable law, use the Department of Health and Human Services authority to project LGBTQI plus individuals access to medically necessary care from harmful state and local laws and practices,
and practices and shall promote the adoption of promising policies and practices to support health equity, including in the area of mental health for LGBTQI youth and adults.
Within 200 days of this order, the Secretary of HHS shall develop and release sample policies
for states to safeguard and expand access to health care for LGBTQI individuals and
their families, including mental health care services.
individuals and their families including mental health care services now let's pull out for one second to try to figure out what what does that actually do so what is being done there the thing
that is being commanded is that the department of health and human services makes sample guidelines
for states and then there's another part where they're talking about how they were
going to form a committee to study trans mental health care uh-huh so none of this did shit right
but this is the first thing that trump's like we're going to overturn this i guess the actual
substantive shift here is and we'll get to this in a bit this didn't do anything this was just a pr op
he does and this is funny because he does a series of these things every single trans day of
visibility and then nothing ever happens because yeah joke we've had like so many states since
2022 completely restrict health care for trans people under the age of 18. And I've not heard of a single instance
where the federal government has intervened
to help a kid get puberty blockers
in a state where they pass these sorts of bills.
I will say this.
The Justice Department has done lawsuits.
Sure, sure.
And I think they won one of them.
So that's not literally nothing it's just mostly
nothing like and then this is the thing it's coming through the judiciary not through the
federal bureaucracy and that's a point of contrast that i want to get to because trump you know and
this is something that's that's always been true about sort of the use of executive power by
democratic versus republican presidents right sure you know they're like the democrats sometimes do
use like massive executive power overreach things like for example obama's claim to have the legal
authority to kill any man woman or child moment they step off the u.s door regardless of citizenship
status i think that he used to kill a 16 year old american citizen in yemen so that he does that
sometimes right but they don't do anything useful with it. And now let's get to what Trump is going to do with this.
Quote, sign a new executive order instructing every federal agency to cease all programs
that promote the concept of sex and gender transition at any age.
Ask Congress to permanently stop federal taxpayer dollars from being used to promote or pay
for these procedures.
Okay.
So that's bad.
What exactly this does is kind of murky.
We're going to talk about Planned Parenthood in a second
because there's another one of these proposals
that's a lot worse for Planned Parenthood.
And I guess that'd be going after some level of government insurance
if you're trying to get uh medical care paid for if you
have government insurance i guess that'd be what that's trying to target yeah i think there's like
two things one and i think this is the main target is well i don't know it's sort of unclear but i
the two main targets i think are any kind of federal education program that talks about queer
people sure and then the second one yeah it's like like if you're in the military you won't
be able to transition anymore because or if and this is actually a pretty big deal
because there are a lot of federal employees um the federal employees health insurance would no
longer cover anti-gender affirming care and this is for everyone right this is not unfortunately
yes a lot of transgender employees at the dot yep so that's very bad fly those drones oh god oh you meant oh
you went dod yes the department of no you said dot department of transportation i was like well
yeah that too there's a bunch of well yes also because people are into trains yes no but i meant i i meant the dod yeah no trains and drones you know
it's bad there's an open question here about how exactly this works so one question that i i'm
genuinely not sure about there's a possibility this works like abortion funding where so federal
money can't go to promoting abortions i think there's some very weird stuff with usaid money overseas so
sometimes happens but i don't know someone i'm not i'm not a usaid expert but you know so for
example you you so if you are a a clinic that does abortions right you can take federal money you just
can't use the federal money for the abortions so it's possible that you know for example so one of the one of the the informed
consent clinics in chicago takes federal money for hiv treatment under this wording it seems like
they could still get federal funding for that but they couldn't take any money for gender affirming
care but also congress could just pass a bill that stops i'm pretty sure could pass a bill that
stops all funding for anyone who does this so you know but this is something that's kind of
interesting about these is that this stuff is all very very bad it's also not quite the maximalist
genocidal policy yet i think in large part because they haven't taken power and because the the groups who are like
pushing this stuff this is actually kind of an older um this is this is from february 2023
so okay it's that it's actually a lot older than a lot of the other stuff here and
but even even back like in 2023 the beginning of the year stuff was less radical than it is now yeah that was before the
big we must eliminate transgenderism yeah thing that started with the daily wire then trump mirrored
some of that rhetoric in his like a c-pack talk from that spring yeah it was it was kind of a
ramp up but like on some of like the quote-unquote transgenderism rhetoric really was getting more
popular around that time the the kind of groomer
rhetoric from the year previous 2022 was starting to kind of fade away and they were finding a new
thing to replace it yeah so so there's a there's a good just a decent chance that this stuff is
all actually much worse when it gets implemented that that's the way it's written right now as
best as i can tell so the third one and this one is a fiasco any hospital or health care
provider who either like gives up puberty blockers or does gender affirming surgery for minors or
gives hormones to minors can't accept medicare medicaid they get knocked off of the approved
list okay so that is a huge deal because that immediately knocks out Planned Parenthood.
Planned Parenthood gets this Sophie's Choice thing of either you don't provide gender-affirming care of either hormones or puberty blockers to kids, or you lose every single person who uses Medicare or Medicaid.
And that's a lot of people. That's like, I've seen
numbers that suggest it's like 40% of
people who use Planned Parenthood
use
particularly Medicare, and
this is a complete
fiasco. I also
wonder how this would impact, like,
cis children who need to be put on
puberty blockers, because
people forget that, like, puberty blockers because people forget that like puberty
blockers have been a thing for like decades and decades and are like well proven to be safe and
effective for delaying puberty it does not stop puberty from happening altogether it does not
castrate you permanently or any of these kind of wild claims yeah well and the stuff that's weird
here too is like it's the language they're using is really inflammatory shit. So it's actually deeply unclear what the fuck they're talking about.
language that would ultimately if written and acted upon as written would like block a whole bunch of regular medical procedures from happening they're often confused about why they're being
asked about this because they're like no obviously things will continue on as normal and if we have
to amend the bill to like change this this one little thing uh then we'll do that they don't
actually think about all the little tiny ways that this also just like interferes with like
regular medical science yeah
and they they just they don't care because they know it's because they're never going to prosecute
for stuff like that it just isn't it they're genuinely not thinking about those other use
cases at all yeah and like i'm gonna read the the first sentence or the first one of these like the
text of it revoke joe biden's cruel policies on so-called gender
affirming care in quotes a process that includes giving kids puberty blockers mutating their
physical appearance and ultimately performing surgery on minor children so that's like
not real that's not what gender affirming care is no so but the thing is right it's it's fucking
impossible to tell whether this would result in them actually banning all gender affirming care whatsoever, which includes other stuff as well.
Or if it's just a more limited ban, like who the fuck knows, because they're not being specific at all.
So this can mutate into a whole bunch of stuff. one of the other immediate sort of impacts of banning particularly of banning medicaid is that
like there's a lot of trans people on it because trans people are significantly poorer than cis
people so i mean just just to take like a random statistic um so the unemployment rate right now
in the u.s is 3.8 the unemployment rate for trans people is 18 which is a 1935 great depression
levels of unemployment so you know if you if you're a
trans person out there and you're listening to people tell you how great the economy is and
you're like what the fuck is going on the answer is that you literally do not live in the same world
as assist people who are telling you this you live in 19 in the 1930 in 1935 great depression
so yeah and but the and you know so so cutting off one of the ways that people can access medical
care if they you know can't afford it is a fucking disaster this is going to
i don't like presumably if this goes through it's the only way that you're going to be able to get
like gender affirming care if you're a kid is by having rich parents and going to like some kind of clinic that doesn't take medicaid or medicare medicaid yeah so you know what else doesn't take medicare medicaid actually
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Okay, so we're back.
So, okay, now having gone into all of that detail,
number four is just, quote,
pass a law prohibiting child sexual mutilation in all 50 states.
So... So this is, see, this is a great example of the thing i
was just talking about how like theoretically if one was a smart ass you'd be like oh so you're
banning circumcision you're like no of course not because they they're not thinking about this sort
of thing this is this is like yeah no it's just yeah trans kids can't get which also like almost
never happens there may be like one or two very bizarre
like outliers where someone has gone through extensive therapy from a very young age that
might result in them receiving such surgery at like 16 or 17 but that is such a minuscule amount
that that simply just does not happen yeah in any real statistical uh no shit you know but i mean
but this is one of these things that's hard
because it's like okay so like what are they actually what are they talking about and the
answer is who the fuck knows this they think this is happening well no but but also like because
like you know because one of the things that they do here right is they'll talk about female like
they'll talk about like genital mutilation like whatever but they'll also include in that like
puberty blockers yeah of course because
because to them puberty blockers are like a chemical castration device yeah and it's all
you know this is one of these things but you know but the the thing i i should mention about this
one that is i don't know it's something i'm sort of hesitant to talk about because i i don't know
like i don't like i'm torn between wanting sort of hesitant to talk about because i i don't know like i don't
like i'm torn between wanting to spread panic and wanting to be like well this is probably what's
going to happen but there's a non-zero chance that with how far this stuff has gone that if
republicans take the house and the senate that this bill turns into just a full band because
that's what's being pushed for now by the sort of constituencies that this stuff is for it's just like a full ban on all care it's way less popular than even the anti-trans kid stuff
which is not very popular but on the other hand like this is i mean this entire thing is just
trump sort of like being like yeah sure whatever to these like these weird anti-trans dipshits yeah there certainly are a percentage of republican
politicians and like right-wing influencers who who do want some of these bills to expand up to
just including everyone or everyone under the age of 25 as we've mentioned before
i i still don't think there's it's it's too too far off to say whether or not this is
something to actually worry about
in any real sense.
It's too murky.
Yeah, but on the other hand,
he is very explicit
on just banning
care for minors.
That's just in the text, right?
The next one is one of the... is like one of the sort of almost every bill that gets
passed by a state legislature now has this provision that creates like, quote, the private
right of action for victims to sue doctors for anyone who got any kind of gender affirming
care as a minor.
This is we've talked about this on the show before.
This is this is, you know, this is a thing that lets detrans grifters who think that god
talks to them like try to go and destroy like doctors and clinics yeah it's it's one of the
tactics that they use to try to like run people who they can't otherwise go after legally out
of existence so you know that that that's like a that's just a sort of
normal classic anti-trans thing that they want to bring to well i guess the other important part of
it is it is having this on a national level lets them target clinics in like blue states that they
otherwise normally wouldn't be able to yeah i mean that's the big goal of a lot of this federal stuff yeah it's being able to actually have it affect like new
york california the other half of the country whereas because right-wing governors are doing
all this sort of stuff in a lot of the red states but that is not satisfying to a lot of these people
they the reason why this is being pushed on a federal level is to try to put as much pressure on blue states as they can just out of the desire for sheer human misery yep now
speaking of the desire for human misery so there is there is just a there is one very trump one
that i've actually haven't seen before quote direct the department of justice to investigate
big pharma the big hospital networks to determine whether they
deliberately covered up horrific long-term side effects of, quote, sex transitions to get rich at the expense of vulnerable patients
or illegally marketed hormones and puberty blockers which are in no way licensed or approved for this use.
That's, that's deeply funny because it's just like nothing he's saying is real.
that's that's deeply funny because it's just like nothing he's saying is real no like all that's fake the long-term side effects of sex transition is being extremely
based and cool but no like there's also there's just nothing to support any of that notion so
even if the doj does investigate this they're not going to find anything because no one's trying to
market testosterone or estrogen to like make money off it. I know this is one thing that certain
freaks at the Daily Wire try to talk
about, be like, ooh, the shady pharmaceutical companies
are making all this money off of estrogen.
It just isn't true.
Most people aren't paying
for estrogen anyway. They're getting it through health
insurance. The most I have to pay
for is the fucking needles.
And also, the thing about estrogen is
the majority of
the people who get estrogen are cis women yes yes like so the majority of people who get testosterone
are male bodybuilders yeah it's like have you ever fucking tried to like get a like get like
like even something like facial feminization surgery which is like technically speaking is
like a fairly highly paid from when he was plastic surgeon.
Do you know how long the waiting lists are for that?
You can't even pay them to do this to you.
You have to pay them and then wait for fucking years because no one does it.
It's like it's something that I think coming off of like the opioid epidemic.
that I think coming off of the opioid epidemic,
we have certain influencers online
who are trying to find different ways to tie
in big pharma to whatever thing
they're currently talking about. And they're
trying to do that with trans healthcare.
And it just, honestly, it doesn't...
The reason why it hardly gets talked about,
because it doesn't lead anywhere.
It'll get a passing mention in the
What is a Woman documentary. It'll get this passing
mention by Trump. But you don't actually see anything on a legislative level actually targeting this.
Because it's just, there's just nothing to do.
There's nothing to investigate.
Also, all of these drugs are approved and tested for all of these things.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
And have been for, like, decades.
So, like, it's simply not real.
Yeah, I mean, this is the thing where, I mean, I think the actual effect of this with DOJ
would just be Trump doing, doing like random witch hunts and like going through and like rating
patients files for shit which like i could hepa hepa you're not allowed not allowed i i don't
think the trump justice department is gonna give us well here's the thing is the supreme court
gonna stop them no of course the supreme court's going to stop. This is such a non-problem
because there's just nothing to do here.
Yeah, but it's like, I don't know.
I think the prospect of
Trump realizing he could actually just do
unlimited judicial tyranny and do whatever
the fuck he wants in the Supreme Court.
Sure.
7-2 will be like, yeah, cops have the right
to execute trans prisoners
or some shit.
Yeah, but that's not
what's currently being talked about yeah yeah yeah yeah but i mean i i do i i i do think there'll be
sort of like fake scaremongering investigations i don't sure i just don't think it'll lead on this
list at all i just don't think it'll lead anywhere i think it's mostly just like a wild goose chase
to satisfy whatever fucking person who watches too many right-wing podcasts on youtube so that like
it's it's i don't see this as anything like super pressing the next one i think actually could be
real depending on how motivated they are to do it so the next one so this is a ban on teachers and
anyone who works so this this is this is supposed to be a directive sent down from the department
of education and it and it says no one who works for a school so no teachers or any school administration can tell a kid that
might be trans and that the consequences for this are civil like civil rights like investigations
into them and also the elimination of federal funding for any school district where this
happens okay and that's this is effect what
what this effectively is is a threat to cut off federal funding from states if they don't implement
what is effectively a don't say trans bill that one i think that one's going to be pretty real
it kind of depends on the extent to which the department of education is willing to
spend a bunch of time going through individual
cases, but given that it's
possible, the Department of Education
just gets filled with a bunch of
deranged Trump weirdos.
I think there's a
real chance that this one actually goes
through and does stuff.
Yeah, and the other thing with that
one is because that's a directive
through federal agencies, it doesn't have to go through Congress, which is sort of alarming.
It's, I don't know, it's one of these things where it's a question of how powerful is the federal bureaucracy going to be, and I tend to lean towards the side of the federal bureaucracy has an immense capacity to cause harm.
The last part is he wants to get a bill in Congress that ends all recognition of there being non-binary people and saying that the only genders are man and woman.
So this would do things immediately like getting rid of the X gender marker on passports and only recognizing people's assigned gender at birth, which means the government is now saying that only two genders exist and also that the federal bureaucracy gets to assign you a gender which is you know normally the exact kind of federal tyranny the republican
party decries but you know they hate us do they ever do they ever actually decry that sort of
tyranny federal why federal tyranny they're supposed to also i think it's supposed to be
their thing it's also less like
the federal government declaring your gender it's like whatever random doctor fills out the paper
but sure but the the but the the the government now is forcing you to in their eyes be whatever
gender that they decide that you are yes and we've had we we've had some stuff like this try to get
yeah through uh in europe and certain certain
certain u.s states for like their own state ids yeah so that's part i don't know why this bill
is these three things lumped together but it's the bill this specific bill is this one using
title nine to stop trans women from playing in women's sports in college or in schools sure and
then protecting the right of the parent to keep
their kid from transitioning which is fucking so that's fascinating because protecting the right
of the parent to make to have your kid not transition that that's some really interesting
wording there yeah well so let me read the exact the exact wording is protects the rights of parents
from being forced to allow their child to assume a new gender identity without the parents consent.
Yeah, so they're referring to the types of parental Bill of Rights laws.
Yeah, that have passed in like six Republican states.
Yeah.
Yeah.
is really interesting and it kind of gives the game away as to what this is all like what the actual point of this is for someone like trump who's not that interested doesn't like trans
people but isn't that interested and this one i'm okay i'm gonna read it first as part of our new
credentialing system credentialing body for teachers we will promote positive education
about the nuclear family the role of mothers and fathers and celebrating rather than erasing the things that make men and women different and unique
sure so this is this is literally this is this is legislating institutional like sexism education
yes and you know we've talked about the credentialing stuff it's unclear to me how
this would work because it's not it's not quite the same credentialing thing that you were talking about but basically this is a federal mandate that
says that you can't be a teacher without teaching sexism um which is i'm sure i'm sure the teachers
unions will love to take that one on yeah well i you know i'm i and this is one of the things that
i i i don't know i mean you have to like go go into like walking with a stick and beat them on it.
But I am so excited for the Trump administration to have to deal with an actual national teacher
strike.
Like have fun with that one.
You dipshits.
This is why these types of conservatives really, really hate teachers union.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They frame teachers unions as being like one of like the most
evil lobbying forces in america because they really don't like that they don't have complete
total control over teaching uh uh kids whatever kind of fucked up nuclear family
patriarchal bullshit that they want to like mandate by law
yeah and so they're going to attempt to do they're they're going to attempt to ever they're
gonna they're gonna make everyone watch a shitty matt walsh documentary or some shit and if you
complain about it they they they prosecute you under the civil rights act for being good luck
discrimination or something so that's that's that that's Trump's plan to protect children
from left-wing gender insanity.
It's really quite bad, as funny as some of it is.
I mean, it's a bunch of gender-affirming care bans
sort of stitched together with stuff
trying to knock hospitals out from doing it stitched to
the the just the sexism law very cool yeah it's quite bad come back tomorrow for
probably even worse shit i don't remember which one is tomorrow but you'll find out when we do.
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