It Could Happen Here - An Alex Jones Update (featuring Knowledge Fight)

Episode Date: October 21, 2024

Robert sits down with Dan and Jordan, the world's top Alex Jones experts, to discuss his bankruptcy and the collapse and possible rebirth of Infowars.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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things falling apart, and today the thing that is falling apart is InfoWars. Now, this is not a new situation. InfoWars has been falling apart for like half a decade now, but we are reaching certainly a point in that process. And to talk about that point, I am bringing on really the only two people you can bring on if you want an expert opinion on Alex Jones, Dan and Jordan of Knowledge Fight. Dan dan jordan welcome to the program hello thank you for having us hello you can bring us on to tell you things that uh every other expert in the world will say are uh wrong yeah yeah well it's nice to know that we are once again at that point where

shit is looking that bad for alex yep that it's relevant for us to uh yeah get to start doing your media tours yeah i mean i mean hey we'll we're i'm enjoying this because i know we're gonna see you next year to have the same conversation and i was flashing back to earlier times we've talked we've probably probably been like, hey, things are looking bad for Alex. Oh, yeah. My fingers are crossed that he gets a bad batch of supplements and goes on, like, not a sad murdering spree, but like a cannibal spree. Like, he eats three or four people. And then the news, like, you guys are on fucking CNN talking about, well, actually, Alex has been discussing eating people for quite some time.

Sure. This is really a long story for him. Really, anyone should have seen this coming. The writing was on the wall. This is some of the least surprising cannibalism in media history. It turns out this supplement, it didn't make him a cannibal. It just brought out that cannibal that was already there. Yeah, that's what the iodine does.

First, before we get into it you know elephant in the room by which i mean uh dan you look like you're ready to lead the union army in a series of civil war battles that's a compliment to your facial hair so by elephant you mean the tusks yes well thank you very much i'm learning to accept compliments but yeah i've got a ridiculous handlebar situation that i did as a joke i got this as a joke to go to undercover to a tucker carlson event that's an incredible decision and then the positive feedback's been too much for me to handle it's good uh well i mean this is really changing things for me because prior to seeing this jordan would have been my go-to if i needed someone to help me burn atlanta but now i don't know i don't know i don't know could be either of you there's

a lot of civil war jokes a lot of uh hitting home runs in the 70s sure sure jokes it's okay i have a whole subreddit full of people that just photoshop my face on the pictures of Rasputin so it's what happens um speaking of Rasputin he was psychic and uh so was Alex according to Alex yep yeah where do you where do you guys want to start here because like obviously the big news right now is all of InfoWars is up for auction uh including apparently Alex's Twitter it sounds like will probably be part of the deal, although I guess that's a little unclear right now. He's trying to fight that inclusion of the Twitter handle in his bankruptcy estate. But I think almost anybody could make a pretty solid argument that it's company property. Yeah.

He uses it to broadcast his show. He takes calls on it for his show yeah from twitter spaces so like yeah he's probably gonna lose that fight and it's probably gonna be part of the auction yeah but i mean at the same time him not having it makes it valueless so it's worthless yeah so if i were gonna auction it it would be worth zero dollars but if i were going to give it to alex it would be worth to him millions upon millions of dollars and that's the issue here yeah it does kind of seem and i'm i listen to alex primarily through you but it does seem like from what i'm hearing your show he's kind of more concerned about the twitter account than the multi-million dollar studio space yeah yeah

which actually is kind of funny because i think it belies a lack of confidence yeah because i i think if he loses real alex jones on twitter he could have realer alex jones yep it doesn't seem like that would be a problem for him actually like do you think you can't gather this audience back together i think that's the problem he's worried he can't get it back yeah yeah well and specifically him like elon would tell people to follow him there'd be a bunch of people with huge accounts saying this is the new alex show like i really don't think it would be much more than a speed bump actually unfortunately you think that but these aren't your friends no you can't trust elon fucking musk to help you out? What? I do think that there's an abandonment

fear, possibly. Yeah. Or some sort of lack of confidence that, like, if this speed bump does hit, I won't be able to rebuild. Oh, no, and it makes sense. Yeah. I think it's delusional. I think he's totally fine. Start 100 new Twitter accounts. You can get

a million followers on all of them. Agreed. Yeah. But, I mean, he's totally fine. Start 100 new Twitter accounts. You get a million followers on all of them. Agreed. Yeah. But I mean, he's delusional about just about everything. So it makes sense that in this case, he would be delusional in the wrong direction. That's true. is like well there's probably someone rich out there some like rich asshole you know think tank funding oil billionaire that would consider it chump change to buy all this shit up and just give it back to alex but my understanding is that that's not actually like a thing you can do in these kind of situations although i'm not not an expert on it oh i think you can yeah the trustee has the ability to to even say like if there is if there

was like a bid that was from uh whomever you want to say like out of nowhere george soros if you like fucking william regneri the fifth or whichever regneri we're on now yeah yeah 10 billion dollars more money than god could imagine but the trustee wanted it to stay in right wing billionaire hands. He could give it to somebody who bid $6 million for it or five. I don't, I don't think that that's actually accurate fully. And I also don't think that the trustee is beholden to Alex in any way. I'm not saying that.

I'm just saying that there is that level of control that is not just like it's going to the highest bidder. As I understand it, the trustees control in terms of that is not just like it's going to the highest bidder as I understand it the trustees control in terms of that is more about a minimum bid like if there were higher bids it would be very difficult to rationalize not taking them if they are from people

who have the actual money sure aren't I guess involved with terrorism or something you know unless there is a concrete reason not to accept it I would be surprised if they didn't accept Soros if he made a bid. I mean, I would be too, but also currently we are on surprise number 7,500.

That's true. If not more. Yeah. So that would be the least surprising thing if it was a surprising thing. Yeah, I guess so. I think we're all agreed, Alex isn't going to just shut up and ride into the sunset.

He's physically incapable of doing that. Like he he would literally explode like a soda with Mentos dropped into it, if that were to happen. Yeah. court decides would be necessary for him to maintain existence although i i understand there's also like ways you can fuck around with that too like what do you guys know about like what what kind of limitations the court has placed on alex for the future after after all of his shit gets sold out from underneath him well i don't know about like specific details but because his uh judgment was deemed to be malicious and intentional, the amount that he owes personally is not dischargeable by bankruptcy. Yeah. So he's in Chapter 7 bankruptcy now personally.

And so he's liquidating all the assets. So he has to sell off the company, which is how we get to the auction in the first place. And so he will sell off these assets to go towards the payment of these people but that's not going to erase the debts and set things even so in theory he could uh be hounded for the rest of his life sure he could have wages garnished have some oversight of his finances in theory yeah to to the amount that that's exercised i'm not sure how much it will be but yeah that's gonna be hanging over him for the rest of his life yeah or i mean if i was him and uh based on how things are going for him so far and the direction things

are taking then uh once this is handled then he's gonna move all of his money to alexjonesstore.com and then once they catch him there he's gonna move all of his money to alexjonesstore.com and then once they catch him there he's gonna move all of his money to alexjonesstore.com too uh and then once they catch him there he's gonna move his stuff to alexjones.com three uh until eventually everybody gets so fucking tired that they're like fine either we're no longer going to come after you or we'll settle for fucking nothing yeah because him and him and his lawyers explained that even as part of their legal strategy early on, which is that you exhaust people with delays and to the point where someone's just willing to settle because you're such a pain in the ass. Yeah. And that's just kind of his mode of operation.

Yeah. And every time people have been like, well, clearly you can't continue to be a pain in the ass this way anymore. It won't be allowed. It has instead been allowed. So you can do it. It's fun. I don't want to get in the way of people's celebrating the downfall

of Alex Jones, but it does kind of seem like nothing realistically is going to stop him from being rich and being able to talk to an audience of people who are dangerously devoted to his shit like none of this is actually going to i'm sure it's unpleasant and stressful right but it's not gonna stop him right that's just not possible yeah this is why you get other experts because i do want to get in the way of people enjoying the quote-unquote info

on soundfall i'm just talking about like when i'm when i'm watching people celebrate on twitter like you can't correct everybody it's like whenever whenever there's like disinfo about alex jones that people listen to your show no like there was a period of time where i would correct people about that or really literally anything else and I've increasingly gotten to the point where like everyone's wrong about almost everything they say on the internet and there's really no point in correcting anybody about it anymore like what am I going to do

how is this going to help yeah I see people like posting videos of Alex crying and like changing the context of what it is for some post and it's like you guys are just, I don't, I,

it's not worth the energy to correct here. Yeah. To your point though, Jordan does want to stop people from celebrating and ruining everyone's fun. I'm in the middle. Okay. I would like people to be a little bit of the time. I'd like people to be a little bit more realistic about their expectations.

People being like celebrating prematurely. Like you're just going to have to deal with the hangover of this. That is, there's a pretty decent chance somebody aligned with Alex is going to buy the company. And then all of it is going to get just given back to him. And it's equally likely that someone, you know, like a soros or whatever does end up buying it infowars is destroyed and alex's revenue streams remain intact because his dad runs his supplement company now that's outside of the bankruptcy he's shifted all of his merch over to this alexjones store.com that's run by somebody else so like all all the meaningful ways that he can make money are now protected and he

can just start alex jones fuck around hour or whatever and have these people be sponsors and you know it'll feel fun that info wars is gone or someone else bought it or whatever but like you know like you're saying robert it doesn't it doesn't really address the issue and nothing is nothing's really gained. Yeah, it's kind of been a massive waste of everybody's time, but a lot of lawyers are going to make a lot of money. So that's good. It does seem, if I'm going out of my way to kind of look at what are the most positive results of this,

like if, I mean, it does look like he's probably going to lose control of all of the shit that they have to film InfoWars. Right. And that won't stop them from filming and doing videos. But maybe they'll look like crap. And maybe that will have an impact on like the degree of credence people give them. You know, like the fact that InfoWars has a nice studio isn't zero 0% of why their shit gets taken seriously by people. I don't think it's most of why, but it's not nothing either.

Otherwise, they wouldn't be doing it. I do think that that, although, I don't know, maybe that was in a different era is when that mattered. I think it's also psychologically important for him. Yeah, that might be the most of it. He wants to think he's doing a real show, and without the trappings of a fake CNN studio, it's harder to pretend that you're not just reading Twitter headlines and then getting mad about them. But I do feel like this idea that it's a waste of time and everything has been a waste of time, I just want to give a little bit of voice to the fact that it may feel like a waste of time and nothing has been achieved but you know if you listen to the perspective of some of the plaintiffs and some of the families the ability to face him in court and reclaim some of the power that he had over memories yeah and the power and the pain you know that isn't something that is quantifiable in terms of the power that he had over memories yeah and the power and the pain you know that

isn't something that is quantifiable in terms of the money or you know all of his feet dragging but it is something that matters and i i don't want to pretend that that hasn't been uh achieved oh great as much as it's not the catharsis of him getting arrested or losing all of his money or whatever that yeah no i mean i just i think we all needed to understand clearly from the beginning what this was and that would have altered kind of the way that this is perceived like if we had all known from the jump like if all the lawyers and everybody and all the media had gotten together and been like listen this is going to be a moral victory uh and it's going to be good to have this like in public to have this airing for all of us to see and for the families to have i think we would have been fine with that the problem was all the rest of the stuff uh was a waste of everybody's time yeah does that make sense yeah

no that makes sense to me. Yeah. Yeah. I think if we had just had, this could all been a banged out in a day. Really? Yeah. Like we get everybody in court, everybody gets to say their piece and then we're done. And Alex gets to remain rich.

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as the male lead i don't know why i don't know why to give people what they want anyway we made 40 million dollars last month damn we should have stopped with this whole uh no ads thing so i i i want to talk a little bit about how alex has been handling the election because you know one of the things that's always interesting to me is how his sense about whether or not everyone's doomed to be you know murdered by the new world order and have their corpse disposed of by a robot is not related at all to like how conservatism is doing how his party has picked candidates are doing and it's it's a pure his own personal vibes because right now is not a terrible time if you're

a fascist in the united states there's a real real good chance they're going to have a runaway win here in the next couple of weeks. But Alex is, at least based on the most recent episode of Knowledge Fund I've listened to, more or less on the everything is fucked and we're all doomed, the New World Order is going to eat you all thing. I think it's just because he's got the auction team coming by his office. Well, spoiler alert, in the next episode, he's had the auction team coming by his office well uh spoiler alert in the next episode uh he's had a euphoria moment because he's realized that they're gonna win they've already won you've you're far you're way too far behind now tomorrow of course they will be losing

and we're all gonna die he's a rapid cycling kind of guy but the day after that we're gonna win yeah but i mean i think i think that you know we've even talked about this before this dynamic of like your enemy has to be uh super strong and then super defeatable and super weak like all of that must exist simultaneously or else yeah you know his game doesn't really work as well yeah so that that energy is gonna keep going until the election and also it makes sense i mean i can't imagine the idea of a bunch of professional people coming into my home or place of business and just like cataloging things just taking each individual pictures the amount of stress and nervous energy

that that would provide yeah like i'd be like hey did i i didn't know i don't know if i needed to clean that i don't know if i needed to clean it she would be getting real like yeah i i just like cleaning up my dad's place after he died was like this whole thing of all of these are items that have meaning to our family and i would be okay burning them all in a fire in a pit right now right like i'm just i'm done i'm done so i can't imagine like the the sense of fucking i would have in alex especially if i had alex jones money like he really it's just more evidence that there's a deep sickness involved in all this with him like he can't stop himself like yes go fish or something bro like go on a nice fishing trip what are you doing sitting in your office watching your life get picked apart what a

miserable place give everybody the day off it's crazy fishing's not gonna stop the devil and that is really uh you know fishing is actually how the devil gets out it's every water is a portal to the fifth dimension of hell which is actually the lower fifth there's a higher fifth dimension where good demons i mean angels come out of but then the lower fifth dimension comes up through the pond and that's where catfish come from. This is not an Alex theory, but it plausibly could be. Yeah. I feel like that wasn't far off. No. No. So how are we, how are we doing with Alex in terms of like, one thing I've noticed, and maybe I have a, you can tell me if you agree with my kind of

interpretation here is that he seems to be at a little bit of a lower ebb in terms of getting invited on and talking with like much more popular creators. I haven't seen like last year. I felt like I saw him on a lot of stuff. And this year, I don't know if it's just that he's not, you know, as sexy as he was to them last year. But I'm just not seeing him out as much as i kind of expected to in an election and i'm wondering if that's your interpretation too or if i'm just kind of you think i'm off i think it's 50 50 because i i think that there is something to that like he was on he's been on more fun stuff before in the past and he's been it's been a little bit limited

this year but he was just on tucker's live live show in Pennsylvania, which is about as big as anything he's done, probably. At least it feels pretty big. Yeah, it wasn't the two drunk sports guys podcast. No, Flagrant 2. Flagrant 2. That might have been a few years ago, too. Yeah. My memory is terrible.

He hasn't been back on Rogan. Yeah. You know, there's some big gaps in terms of like where he feels like he should be appearing but you know if you look at the luminaries that were on that tucker carlson tour like him being included in that list of people is pretty you know that's that's rarefied air i mean unfortunately i guess it is in a way you got rfk j Yeah. You got Vivek. They're consequential people, which is the most disappointing part

is that these are the dregs of humanity. And yet they are very consequential people that we should be paying attention. It's absolutely infuriating that, yeah, I have to care about, especially fucking Vivek. Yeah. Because I ran into him at the fucking RNC

and he was being surrounded by a cloud of guys who all looked like Nick Fuentes. The only reason I didn't assume one of them was Nick Fuentes is that any one of them could have been Nick Fuentes. And I had to fight this urge. Have you ever seen those old man comics where a guy will be fighting a hundred shrews and beating one of them to death with the others? I had to fight off the urge to pick up one Fuentes by the legs and just start swinging him just start swinging you are my weapon so like where do you where do you see alex a year from now right like do you have any kind of expectation for where he's going to be because like at some point his dad has to die which i understand is a pretty important part right now of how he's able to keep money flowing well to his operation the face of the judgment

right his dad and his brother-in-law both run okay the dr jones naturals so even if old david jones kicks the bucket his brother uh is still gonna be there so i think i think alex is fine but he almost killed his dad with covid yeah yeah yeah i am surprised dr jones lived through that given alex's yeah it's like a gorilla sitting on his chest yeah yeah yeah i think i think it is a little bit of a testament to how insane and and how the best torture for alex is is just being cursed with being alex is like if i was in this scenario where i plausibly have a reason to never touch or talk about money again and yet still make the almost exact same amount of it, that would be perfect.

That's just taking a job away from me, right? Now it's my dad's problem to look at the sales numbers. I don't have to go anywhere. Dr. Jones is not a good ad man. That's the thing. He doesn't do a good read. Alex is the face guy. Dr. Jones handles the business. That means that Alex the thing doesn't do a good read yeah alex is the face guy dr jones handles the business that means that alex doesn't have to do both it makes perfect sense uh but to

your to your question though like i really do feel like right now we're in the most chaotic possible moment right because you have these two things that could go any direction that are happening around the same time like you have the election and then you also have the auction right and if trump wins or loses there's a lot of different possibilities of how his path might go and if someone who he's aligned with ends up buying the company or not that's another like the world would be very different in terms of the choices yeah uh that he has in front of him yeah but i think it'll be bad i think he'll be unhappy that i think no matter what i think it'll be pretty miserable yeah yeah and that's just because of him yeah he's just a real a miserable piece of shit yeah i i spent a lot of time thinking about his b cast and how they might do because i again i i

don't see a world in which alex gives up what he's doing but i do see a world in which he can no longer pay owen schreier uh yeah and that's that's the true yeah that's the true goal and that could be a real win owen's not making what a heartbreaking amount of money i'm sure more further into the six figures than owen schroeder ought to be further than will ever be i wonder what the deal with him would be though like he went to jail for alex god he sure did he sure did he did time like what could he tell if he was off the payroll or you know like or how much do you pay to keep him on the payroll because he's the kind of guy who went to jail for you i mean if you look at a i mean david knight's not going to jail for you but if that's if that's

a comparable exit for uh personal popularity i don't think owen's got much of a shot yeah i think he can be tossed into the ocean but i think chase chase geyser is more of a b player than than owen we just have a personal yeah we just chase geyser is a new character who's popped up in the later seasons of the show yeah and he's really brought a new he's brought a lot of a late season juice to it that i think we needed yeah yeah he's better than owen though that's for yeah yeah see i was gonna say it's like when fraser brought on all those british people but speaking of british people our sponsors might be british we don't check hey i'm jack these thomas the host of a brand new Black Effect original series, Black Lit, the podcast for diving deep into the rich world of Black literature. I'm Jack Peace Thomas, and I'm inviting you to join me and a vibrant community of literary enthusiasts dedicated to protecting and celebrating our stories.

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We're the hosts of Let's Talk Offline, the early career podcast from LinkedIn News and iHeart Podcasts. One of the most exciting things about having your first real job is that first real paycheck. You're probably thinking, yay, I can finally buy a new phone. But you also have a lot of questions like, how should I be investing this money? I mean, how much do I save? And what about my 401k?

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What do you think this year have been the big pieces of Alex misinformation that you've seen people spreading online? Like what's kind of been your biggest? I'm guessing this is going to be a Jordan heavy question, but like stuff about Alex or stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Stuff about Alex that's like specifically what kind of stuff have you heard? Like people in media saying about Alex this year that has pissed you off the most i mean the funny part of this question is that i've actually left the internet about as much as possible because of the rage that the rage that i feel at this very situation a wise move yeah so i honestly i think i think the big thing for me personally is just

the if we are going to talk about alex's auction then to me what we're talking about is how much money the families are going to receive that's that's to me in my head of yeah if we're going to talk money then what we should talk about is the end point how much do the families get and even if this auction just goes gangbusters the the families are going to get so so little of whatever happens because they're the last in line before you pay like norm pattis is going to make more money at the end of all of this process than any of the family members that That's just, that's just probably true. I would say if not guaranteed true at this point, unless of course,

Mark Cuban or somebody, a billionaire shows up and showers them with money. But for the most part, it's, it's like the end goals should be the family. Yeah. They should be first, but that's the wrong thing.

They're the last. So it's very annoying. It's very frustrating. Yeah. That is especially given that like, that's the whole thing they're the last so it's very annoying it's very frustrating yeah that is especially given that like that's the whole reason for the suit like that's the whole reason for the season but i mean obviously the system is not conducted to benefit families who are suffering that's not who makes the rules that's not who operates the system the system uh yeah okay we don't need to rant about that it is a bummer dan what about you um i i

mean maybe it's recency bias and stuff but like i do think that the conversation around the auction is missing a little bit of the point whether it be in terms of you know what the the sale is like you were bringing up jordan or like people thinking that there is a solution to the problem that alex represents like this isn't going to be like a ding dong the witch is dead type moment you're gonna you're gonna have you know his new thing funded by the companies that he's been building up to avoid the bankruptcy or you're gonna have somebody who's with him, but that buys it. InfoWars is going to be the same problem on November 14th or whatever, as it was the day before.

And I think that, I think that people are getting themselves maybe a little bit up for a disappointment. Yeah. And I think that we've seen that a couple of times, like with the Alex had the night where he claimed that security guards were trying to shut him down. Yeah. You know, people got excited about like, this is it?

Yep. And I think maybe I'm jaded too because of years of doing this. Yeah. Yeah. It's almost never it. I mean, I want to say this and I want people to recognize that this is true. In regards to this scenario, you are never going to come.

You're never going to come. It's never going to happen. You're going to be perpetually close and then you're not going to make it and then you're going to come back. That's how it is. If you're into edging, Alex is the guy to follow.

Yeah, it's perfect. No, I think that that's actually really good advice. Like if you just as a layman are hearing people talk about Alex Jones on social media or, like, seeing some sort of, like, opinion column or whatever in some, you know, left-winger liberal rag, and you want to know, like, how credible is this? a massive change to alex and what he actually does because if so probably nothing has got unless it's like an article that he's been diagnosed with a disease nothing's probably going to change right like at some point he's going to die i'm not being mean i don't even i wouldn't believe that article i wouldn't believe a word in that article they're lying well you fake that illness with dr marbles to get out of the deposition thing. So like he, you know, fuck even that.

Yeah. I think I look at it slightly differently. And that is that I do predict that there will be a massive change. We just don't know what it'll be. Sure. Like there'll be something. He's got to do something because his content is really stagnant and a bit uninteresting in the trump sense yeah and i do i think that there is a change that'll be needed if he wants to

maintain whatever he's doing but i mean anybody who has an idea of what it is is wrong yeah yeah yeah i imagine that uh predicting anything in the next 60 days is going to be a ridiculous proposition if you had predicted a new hurricane fucking two weeks ago, people would have thought you were crazy. Yeah. Well, I think that's all I had to ask guys. Anything you wanted to plug,

we'll bring up before we close out. Um, I know just, uh, we, we exist. We have a show. Check out knowledge fight. It's my favorite podcast it's the only only

reasonable way to keep up with alex jones and a whole network of other con men and grifters uh who who who kind of latch on to him like that fish that lives on the underside of a shark a remora except for alex alex is also a remora or remora right so it's just like a it's like a just a series of smaller and smaller ones each sucking each other off yeah that sounds about right and alex is latched onto the side of a cruise ship toilet yeah he sees the remora on the cruise ship toilet yeah you've now turned this into a human centipede situation i have i have i don't know why. Again, again, it's all, this is all viral marketing for Dr. Jones's big naturals.

Now we've figured out an appropriate punishment for defamation of character. Human centipede. Yeah. I've been saying that for years. Years. Yeah. I feel like, and I do have to point this out. Sure.

That is both cruel and very unusual. It is perhaps the most unusual thing you could imagine, really. I hate to say, but it would take some of these people three months to have several thousand people convinced that human centipeding is like a mental health hack. It's like getting rid of seed oils. That's how you accelerate muscle development. Right. Yeah. Ancient cavemen were always eating each other's shit you know what you've also you've also made a very good point if you this this whole thing if you want to stop alex alex is a symptom alex is a symptom of

the larger problem you need to regulate supplements yes fda approved supplements will get rid of most of these guys every podcast episode we can we are pushing the line in my dream if i accomplish one thing in my life it would be getting this to become widely agreed upon by liberals in the left regulate supplements allow direct sales of cars to consumers yep and ban MLMs and prosecute people criminally for trying to operate them. Do that. And you fix a lot of other problems. I would do something about precious metals businesses too.

I would throw that. Hey now, hey now, Mike Lindell's given us some gold money. So right now you just wait, wait right there until he runs out. Dan. Pillow sales are illegal.

Also, I should throw that on the pile. Pillows are illegal. Makes your neck weak. Yep. All right, everybody. Listen to knowledge fight. Thank you, Dan and Jordan, as always. We'll be back tomorrow with some other episode of this podcast that we do every day.

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