It Could Happen Here - Anarchism In Brazil, Pt. 2 feat. Andrew

Episode Date: September 25, 2024

Andrew continues his conversation with Garrison about the development of Brazilian Anarchism during repression and fascist violence in the 20th century.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy informat...ion.

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Curious about queer sexuality, cruising, and
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Starting point is 00:02:41 or wherever you get your podcasts. Calls on Media. Welcome to Kid Appin' Here. I'm Andrew Sage of the YouTube channel, Andrewism. Today, we're continuing the Latin American anarchism series with our exploration of anarchism in Brazil. I'm joined by... Garrison Davis. Hello there. And once again, thanks to the scholarship of Edgar Rodriguez, Jesse Cohen, Felipe Correa, Rafael Viana de Silva, Juan William dos Santos, Edilene Toledo, and Luigi Biondi. When we last left off, anarchist labor resistance in Brazil had triggered a turning point and a
Starting point is 00:03:22 reaction. Weakened by the splits caused by the Bolsheviks and the military repression of the government, another faction would step in to cripple the anarchist cause even further. The Integralists. In the 1920s and 1930s, Brazil saw the rise of the Brazilian Integralist Action, the AIB, a nationalist movement led by Plinio Salgado. During a trip to Europe, Salgado became enamored with Benito Mussolini's fascist movements in Italy. Upon his return to Brazil and at the height of Getulio Vargas' dictatorship, which was ushered in thanks to a cool-weather liberal alliance, Salgado founded the Society
Starting point is 00:04:02 of Political Studies, gathering intellectuals who were sympathetic to fascism. Then he issued the October Manifesto, laying out the groundwork for the Brazilian Integralist action. The movement closely mirrored Italian fascism, with its green-shirted paramilitary wing, regimented demonstrations, and militant rhetoric. Though Salgado publicly rejected racism, many members of his party adopted anti-Semitic views. Integralism was financed in part by the Italian embassy, with the Roman salute and the Tupi word Anaue, meaning, you are my brother, as key symbols of their unity. Integralist action drew its support from lower middle class Italians and Portuguese immigrants,
Starting point is 00:04:45 alongside sections of the Brazilian military, particularly the navy. As the party grew, it became the dictator Vargas' primary right-wing base of support, especially after he began to crack down on the Communist Party. Integralists frequently engaged in street violence and terrorism aimed at leftist groups. In 1931, Vargas introduced labor regulations based on Mussolini's labor charter. Independent industrial unions were banned, union membership had to be registered with the Ministry of Labor, two-thirds of the union membership had to be native-born or naturalized Brazilians, and union officers were required to either be resident in Brazil for 10 years if naturalized
Starting point is 00:05:26 or 30 years if foreign born that's pretty fucked up i would assume also just very damaging to the entire labor movement in the country a very intense series of restrictions yes that's a very immigrant empowered labor movement yeah that was definitely targeted definitely definitely targeted obviously like the class consciousness of the immigrant workers was such a threat that they had to root them out from any position of influence within the sanctioned unions salgado and the integralists of course welcomed these decrees and worked with the police to capture militant workers the communists also apparently welcomed the impositions the Ministry of Labour.
Starting point is 00:06:07 Meanwhile, anarchists and workers were weathering rightist violence. One time, integralists kicked down the doors of the Bakery Workers' Union, the Construction Workers' League, the Mill and Warehouse Operatives, Stone Masons' Union, and Union of Cafe Employees, destroyed their assets,
Starting point is 00:06:23 and extrajudiciously hauled away the workers as prisoners. So they just started kidnapping people and doing basically state-sanctioned terrorism. Exactly. Another integralist, Gustavo Barroso, used his walking stick to break the arm of an anti-fascist 16-year-old worker named Nair Koleho
Starting point is 00:06:44 as she was making a speech against fascism. Time is a flat circle. Indeed it is. Instead of sticks, this time they're using cars, but it's the same principle. And sticks! Oh yeah, people are still collecting sticks.
Starting point is 00:06:58 I have been hit by many a stick from a fascist at a street demo, especially as a teenager. Hmm. Hmm. Down. So with all this violence they're dealing with, in this time, the anarchist presses had to hunker down
Starting point is 00:07:12 and prepare to face further attacks. In 1933, the Libertarian Anti-Fascist Committee sounded alarm on the dire threat of integralism. As one anarchist press wrote, Like fascism, integralism means to enslave and fetter the people. Let us now defend our liberty like men. As one anarchist press wrote, On December 24th, 1933, the tensions were at an all-time high. Following a humiliating defeat at the Salon Celso Garcia,
Starting point is 00:07:42 Plenio Salgado's Integralists, known as the Green Shirts, planned a show of force to assert their dominance. Their target? Union leaders and leftists, particularly anarchists, who stood against their fascist vision for Brazil. According to reports from Nosovos on December 1st, the integralists had organized 18 companies of Green-shirted marchers who would parade through the heart of Sao Paulo, prepared to crush any resistance that came their way. Reinforcements from Rio de Janeiro, led by Gustavo Barroso, bolstered their numbers, with 500 trained assault troops primed to attack. The police, of course, were openly supportive of the Integralists,
Starting point is 00:08:22 and had even stationed machine guns at key points throughout the city to ensure the march went smoothly. Colonel Arlindo de Oliveira had an additional 400 troops, made up of infantry, fire brigade units, and cavalry, ready to intervene. Seems like Claire Overkill. But it was a show of force, so to be expected. By the time the marchers reached the Pracha da Se, a huge crowd had gathered, some curious onlookers, others outright opponents of the fascist movement. As the integralists arrived at the cathedral,
Starting point is 00:08:56 cries of death to the fascists and down with the green shirts echoed throughout the square. Suddenly, shots rang out. Some say the firing began accidentally, when a machine gun set up by the Civil Guard was nudged. Others claim it was the communists lying in wait, ready to ambush the march. Regardless, chaos erupted before the anarchists had even initiated their planned attack. The scene quickly devolved into pandemonium. People fled in terror, shots continued to fire, and several were mortally wounded. The planned pledge of loyalty to Plinio Salgado, the head of the Integralists, never took place that day. But by 1937, Salgado launched a presidential campaign, hoping to ride the
Starting point is 00:09:43 wave of growing support for his movement and become a dictator in his own right. However, when Vargas cancelled the elections and established the authoritarian Estado Novo regime, he banned the Integralist Party along with all the others, sidelining Salgado. In response, Integralist militants launched two uprisings in 1938, both of which failed. Salgado was imprisoned and later exiled to Portugal. After spending most of his life supporting the dictators of Brazil, his attempt to become one of his own utterly failed. There's a few interesting things in this moment here, particularly how the initial struggle against fascism once again,
Starting point is 00:10:25 and kind of laid at the feet of anarchists and communists had like a degree of hesitancy to like, to like jump in fully. And then also like, I find it interesting the way that these, like this era of fascists in Brazil, particularly we're targeting unions, but as almost as a way just to target like immigrants,
Starting point is 00:10:44 like it was like the easiest way for them to actually just do anti-immigrant violence um was like through the unions yeah anti-immigrant violence is almost always anti-worker violence as well yeah no no in the states at least right now we're just like seeing a another kind of uptick um in like anti-immigrant rhetoric and violence and yeah a lot of it is tied to like labor and like how immigrants are are taking jobs away from the lower classes that sort of thing huh as always remember that you know it could happen here and it's important to be constantly aware and on guard against even the ghost, the shadow of fascism creeping up in their communities.
Starting point is 00:11:30 It's easy to be treated by the media or by others as just, oh you're making a big deal about it, you're over exaggerating the threat, but no, these things snowball very quickly uh they need to be nipped in the bud and it's largely thanks to anti-fascists on the front lines that the situation is not as bad as it could be right now yeah even though it is getting worse every day hey guys i'm kate max you might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more. After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories,
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Starting point is 00:17:03 For the already weakened anarchist and labor movements in Brazil, Integralism had posed a dire threat. They were already splintered and in decline, struggling to maintain influence, and Integralism's rapid rise, with its militarized structure and anti-leftist violence, fully suppressed their hopes. The Communists weren't exactly a help either. The anarchists lost a significant stronghold of their struggle on the premises of the Anti-Clerical League in Rio de Janeiro when communists sent to disrupt their meeting called the police on them, leading to the arrest of eight anarchists and the closure of the Anti-Clerical League centre and its
Starting point is 00:17:42 newspaper. With the help of the Integralists, Communists, and leaders of Cardinal Sebastão Leme's Brazilian Catholic Party, Getúlio Vargas faced little resistance in establishing his Estado Novo dictatorship. His authoritarian regime lasted from 1937 to 1945 and was marked by continuous crackdowns on labour autonomy and anarchism. But despite the common claims, the 1930s marked the end of anarchism in Brazil. Anarchists remained active in unions and cultural spaces despite repression. Anarchists published influential periodicals like A Plebe and A Chão Direita and aimed to create a national
Starting point is 00:18:22 anarchist political organization. Post-1945, in the era of re-democratization, anarchists converged in Sao Paulo for Brazilian anarchist congresses in 1948 and 1959, which brought together veterans and motivated the re-establishment of social centers. The anarchists resumed educational and cultural activities like founding the Centro de Cultura Social, the CCS, which became a hub for anarchist intellectual life, hosting lectures, conferences, literary events, and even theatre performances. The anarchists were back. The CCS had played a key role in building anarchist networks, even hosted anarchist exiles from Spain, and helped
Starting point is 00:19:01 establish similar cultural centres in the suburbs of of São Paulo and other cities across Brazil. In Rio de Janeiro, a similar space emerged in 1958, the Centro de Estudos Professor José Oitica, or CEPJO. Like the CCS, the CEPJO hosted courses, lectures, and debates. In 1961, it helped establish an anarchist publishing house called Mundo Libre. In Sao Paulo, union activity surged, with 300,000 workers striking in 1953, and another 400,000 in 1957. This period of intense mobilization provided an opportunity for anarchists and independent socialists to come together and form the Syndicalist Orientation Movement, or MOS. Created in 1953, MOS aimed to fight for the autonomy and freedom of workers' unions, resistant state and corporate control.
Starting point is 00:19:54 By 1957, they had enough momentum to contest union leadership positions, especially within the graphic sector. Despite these strides, however, the anarchist movement faced considerable challenges. The redemocratization after 1945 offered some room for growth, but the labour landscape was dominated by corporatist forces, the Communist Party, and the Brazilian Labour Party. Anarchists found themselves battling for influence in a crowded political field. Their efforts to revitalize the movement were further stifled by a lack of resources and militants, which limited their presence in social movements.
Starting point is 00:20:31 The momentum gained in the 1950s came to a crashing halt with the military coup of 1964. Once again, Brazil entered a period of authoritarian rule, placing anarchist activists in a precarious position. In May 1964, anarchists from Rio de Janeiro and São Paulo organized a secret meeting to strategize, focused on safeguarding anarchist resources. Many went underground, facing renewed repression and uncertainty about the future of their movement. They shifted focus to educational and cultural spaces to survive, with initiatives like the newspaper O Protesto and the publishing house Germinal. Anarchists, including young students new to the cause, formed the libertarian student movement,
Starting point is 00:21:15 the NEL, in 1967, with the intention of fixing a position and fighting back, as well as having an active presence in class and ideological struggles, marking all directions more in accordance with Federalist principles, which had governed the life of every class organization. But after one student, Edson Louise, was murdered by the military police, the MEL and other student initiatives faced heavy persecution after the 1968 Institutional Act No. 5, or the AI-5, which suspended most civil rights, including habeas corpus, allowed for the removal from office of opposition politicians, enabled federal interventions in municipalities and states, and enabled the institutionalization
Starting point is 00:21:57 of arbitrary detention, torture, and extrajudicial killing by the regime. This military dictatorship that gripped Brazil from 1964 to 1985 forced anarchist movements into survival mode. In Rio de Janeiro, the Centro de Estudos Professor José Coetica operated secretly, while in Sao Paulo, the Centro de Cultural Social kept the flame of anarchist thought alive through underground propaganda and secret meetings. flame of anarchist thought alive through underground propaganda and secret meetings. These centers were vital in maintaining connections with international anarchist movements, ensuring that the ideology persisted despite the harsh political climate. You see the importance of international solidarity rearing its head yet again, and you see also the importance of having cultural centers, social centers, community centers where the movement can draw strength, even when it's not directly engaging in labor organizing
Starting point is 00:22:51 or direct political struggle. Just that rejuvenation of community is enough to maintain the survival of that ideological struggle, even when all hope seems lost. No, I mean, this is something like you see a lot, especially after or during like a movement that's faced incredible repression is that kind of, it goes back to kind of its earlier forms, at least in terms of like, like, like, like the social aspects, like in some ways, it feels like it's kind of regressing back to kind of where it like started back in the last episode with some of those like same, like, you know, like, like underground newspapers, all this, all this
Starting point is 00:23:25 cultural engagement. As you said, a way to keep the light alive during an intense military-style effort of repression. It's really quite necessary. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series,
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Starting point is 00:28:48 Unfortunately, in 1969, the headquarters of SEPJO was raided by Air Force agents. The invasion resulted in the arrest and prosecution of 18 members, including the anarchist Ariel Perez, who endured a month of imprisonment and torture. So between 1972 and 1977, anarchists were forced into even greater degrees of secrecy, meeting in very small, tight-knit groups.
Starting point is 00:29:13 In terms of organizational strength, this might have been the lowest point for anarchism in Brazil. But things began to shift in 1977, as the dictatorship started to lose its grip. That year, the anarchist periodical O Inimigo Lore, or The King's Enemy, was launched in Bahia, marking a significant moment for the movement. This newspaper brought together student and union militants from various parts of the country. Bahia, Rio de Janeiro, Sao Paulo, Rio Grande do Sul, Paraiba, and Pará. Despite internal conflicts and ideological differences,
Starting point is 00:29:49 the paper played a crucial role in reorganizing the anarchist movement. Under the influence of the counterculture, O Inimigo do Rei tackled issues like revolutionary unionism, anarcho-syndicalism, the student movement, gender, sexuality, and political theory. syndicalism, the student movement, gender, sexuality, and political theory. The paper ran until 1982, and after hiatus, resumed briefly between 1987 and 1988. During this same period, there was the first sign of notable anarchist engagement with the labor movement in years. Following a wave of strikes involving more than 40,000 workers, Anarchists began questioning the bureaucratic union structures. In Sao Paulo, the Colectivo Rebutario de Oposição Sindical, or COLOPS, was formed, closely aligned with the ideas of the metalworkers opposition movement.
Starting point is 00:30:35 COLOPS was officially established during the first national meeting of workers in opposition to the Trade Union Structure, or ENTOES, held in September 1980 in Niterói. This meeting brought together union opposition from 16 states across Brazil, further sparking the revival of anarchist involvement in the labour movement. But one of the most significant developments to come out of this period was the rise of the Movimento dos Trabalhadores Rurales Sentera, the Landless Workers' Movement, or MST. Emerging in 1984, just before the end of the military regime, the MST became a mass movement with distinctly anarchist-communist characteristics. It adopted a decentralized,
Starting point is 00:31:19 non-hierarchical structure that prioritized autonomous, direct action, principles deeply aligned with anarchism. However, the MST has resisted being identified as explicitly anarchist, avoiding the label to maintain broader support and avoid the stigma attached to anarchist movements. Over time, while maintaining its independence, the MST has built alliances with various political parties, including the Workers' Party, which would go on to form the government in 2002. By the 1980s, Brazilian anarchism began reflecting the broader new social movement that had emerged globally after the 1960s. Ecology, feminism, and new discourses on sexuality were now key components of anarchist thought.
Starting point is 00:32:01 The 1980s saw the rise of pro-homosexual actors like Nestor Peronguer, an Argentinian-born intellectual who became a central figure in Brazilian anarchism. You know, some have considered me a pro-homosexual. Okay. But no, this is a continued, it is interesting to see this starting with student movements and then getting back into labor over time after they rebuilt their movement through students and then continuing to adopt more and more modern social views
Starting point is 00:32:40 and cultural engagement. I have an image here of one of their newspapers that has what looks like two men having sex right on the cover from the 70s, which is quite something. Incredible. Must have been very scandalous at the time. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:55 So in the 1990s, as Brazil transitioned to the New Republic and embraced neoliberalism, anarchists became key players in shaping a wave of social movements. They actively helped to create and integrate into these movements, advocating their principles and strategies. One prominent example is Brazil's involvement in the global anti-globalization movement, inspired by protests like the Seattle WTO demonstrations in 1999. In Brazil, this movement began in Santos on the same date,
Starting point is 00:33:27 led by anarchists, ecologists, and libertarians. By 2000, a coalition of these groups emerged, particularly in Sao Paulo, and continued organizing actions against neoliberal policies until 2003. The protest targeted institutions like the IMF, the World Bank, and the WTO, and introduced the Black Bloc tactic to Brazil. Anakis also helped establish Brazil's Center for Independent Media, CMI, part of the Global Indie Media Network, which aimed to challenge mainstream media dominance. Active between 2001 and 2005, CMI was a key platform for independent journalism across 14 Brazilian cities. Beyond protests, anarchists were involved in broader social movements, contributing to housing struggles in Sao Paulo and Rio de Janeiro, as well as supporting feminist, indigenous, black, and LGBT causes. and movements like the National Movement of Collectors of Recycled Material,
Starting point is 00:34:30 the previously mentioned Landless Workers Movement, and the Homeless Workers Movement, reflecting their deep involvement in Brazil's diverse social landscape. In the early 2000s, the Anarchist Popular Union helped form networks such as the Class and Combative Student Network and or the RECC, and the Federation of Revolutionary Syndicalist Organizations of Brazil, or the FOB, who either cemented anarchism's influence in students' and workers' struggles. Despite being considered part of a broader leftist current, anarchists specifically made a lasting impact on Brazil's social movement during this period. Today, Brazilian anarchism continues to evolve,
Starting point is 00:35:06 shaped by the principles of Especifismo, a strategy where anarchists work alongside broader social movements while maintaining their own distinct ideology. Many anarchist federations have found common cause with groups like the MST, supporting their struggles while promoting their own vision of a stateless, non-hierarchical society. The story of anarchism in Brazil is one of endurance, adaptability, and reinvention. Despite decades of repression, the movement has continued to shape Brazil's political landscape, from underground propaganda during the dictatorship to the mass mobilization of landless workers and intellectuals alike. Similar to what they were doing 90 years ago,'ve also seen like a resurgence of anarchist
Starting point is 00:35:46 anti-fascism in brazil indeed around the same time we kind of saw this rise in the united states as well as in europe with the emergence of these like right-wing populist politicians between like trump and bolsonaro you've been seeing some more of like the Bloc-style anarchism in Brazil, which often in this era went hand-in-hand with anti-fascist action and organizing. Indeed. So that's been the story. Very summarized account. I would recommend that you check out, of course, the scholarship of the folks I mentioned at
Starting point is 00:36:21 the beginning. The resources all across the internet, particularly in the anarchist library, discussing Brazilian anarchism. This has been It Could Happen Here. I've been Andrew Sage. You can find me on youtube.com slash andrewism and patreon.com slash stdrew. I've been here with
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