It Could Happen Here - Anarchism in Uruguay feat. Andrew, Pt. 1 

Episode Date: March 18, 2025

Andrew is joined by James to talk about the history of anarchism in Uruguay.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hello and welcome to It Could Happen Here. It's time to finally continue our journey through Latin American anarchism. Now so far, we've covered almost every country in Latin America at this point including Peru, Chile, Brazil, Argentina, Paraguay, Central America, the countries of the former Gran Colombia like Venezuela, Ecuador, Colombia and also Cuba and a few other islands in the Caribbean. And now before we get to the really big history that I've kind of been saving as the finale

that is anarchism in Mexico, we're going to be talking about the anarchist movement in Uruguay. So, my name is Andrew Sage. You can find me on YouTube as Andrewism. And you can also find the bulk of the research for today's episode in Angel Capulety's aptly titled, Anarchism in Latin America. I'm joined today by James, it's me again. And it's been a while.

Yeah, it has been a while. Nice to be back. Great to be back in conversation. Yeah. So, before we can really get into the history of anarchism in Uruguay, I probably should give some context as to how Uruguay became Uruguay. And well my source for this history is primarily the Encyclopedia Britannica. So before the whole scourge of European colonialism, what is now known as Uruguay supported a population of about 5,000 to 10,000 people, which were

organized in semi-nomadic groups. You had the Charuah, the Chana and the Guarani Indians, primarily. So the first European visits took place first in 1516 and they weren't particularly successful or of interest. Spain was looking for gold and looking for silver, that was their incentive for colonisation at the time, and they didn't see any of that so they didn't have much motivation to stick around. It was until the 1620s over a century later that Jesuit and Franciscan missionaries set

up religious settlements, but unfortunately by then Uruguay's native population had already begun to collapse. Thousands of people were succumbing to European diseases that they had no immunity to. A couple centuries later in 1800, Uruguay continued along with a very small population. At this point it was about 30,000 people in total and a third of their population lived in the capital city of Montevideo. Another third of their population were African slaves who worked on ranches, in meat processing plants and as domestic servants. Meanwhile the elite, whether they be wealthy traders, bankers or landowners, mostly traced their routes to Catalonia, the

Basque Country, the Canary Islands, and other parts of Spain. We get into 1810, when a lot of the Latin American countries had been fighting for their independence, Buenos Aires, Argentina was among them. But while Argentina was fighting for its independence, Montevideo was of royalist stronghold, backed by the Spanish military and naval forces. On the countryside it was a different story though. Uruguay's greatest independence hero came out of that space. His name was Jose Gervasio Artigas and he originally led a Spanish cavalry unit but

eventually turned against the Crown in 1811 and rallied an army of rural fighters, freed African slaves, and anti-royalist leaders from Montevideo. So with the backing from Buenos Aires, his forces were able to score key victories and eventually oust the Spanish. But Artigas had much bigger ambitions. He wanted a confederation of provinces that resisted the dominance of Buenos Aires. In fact, he wanted Montevideo to become the centre

of a rival confederation. As prior to Argentina becoming Argentina, it was sort of a loose confederation centred in Buenos Aires. Artigas' ideas also included things like redistributing the land to freed slaves and poor Uruguayans, which made him obviously very popular among the poor and very much a threat to the elite. Eventually he was forced into exile because he made some enemies that basically sat on their hands as the Portuguese-Bra Portuguese Brazilian forces invaded and took over the region. Despite his exile though the fight really wasn't over. After the occupation which was often called Brazilianization, it was resisted very heavily by locals and exiles.

And of course Argentina which had become somewhat of a rival power to Brazil in the region, it saw Brazil's influence in Uruguay as a threat. So eventually, one of Artigas's exile officers, a guy named Juan Antonio Lavallere, would lead a force that would cross the river and reclaim Uruguay. The fight would end in a stalemate and then British diplomats would step in because of course the British had their own interests in the region. But eventually in 1828 a treaty was signed officially creating Uruguay as an independent nation, a buffer state between Argentina and Brazil. In 1830 Uruguay's first constitution was ratified, and at the time the country had

a population of just 74,000 people. All that war kind of left the country in ruins. A lot of the once wealthy colonial families were devastated, the cattle numbers had plummeted, and the threat of both Argentina and Brazil still persisted despite the treaty had been signed. So then the nation ended up being split into two rival factions. You had the faction that was led by Uruguay's first president and then you had the faction that was led by Uruguay's second president.

And they became fierce rivals that ignited a civil war known as the Guerra Grande or Great War. I'll make a long story short, the first president's supporters became known as the Colorado Party and they controlled one-to-a-video and the second president supporters became known as the White Party or the Blanco Party and they dominated the countryside. And so they were a fight from time to time, each side being backed by different parties. The Blancos were backed by Argentina, the Colorado's were backed by France and England and then eventually Brazil.

And after about a decade of war, there was still no clear victory as to who came out of it as a success in state. The interior of the country was devastated, government was bankrupt, its very existence as an independent nation came into doubt. And the divisions between the people who backed either party became more stark than ever. Eventually the Colorado's were able to force the Blancos out of power thanks to their backing by Brazil and that move ended up alarming Paraguay who was also afraid of Brazil's influence.

So Paraguay ended up launching what became known as the War of the Triple Alliance which is something I covered in the episode of Paraguayan Anarchism. Eventually after getting out of the civil wars and all these disputes and foreign powers meddling in suffice, we have the situation that Uruguay found itself in in the 19th century. A situation that waves of immigrants and also anarchism would find themselves in. Do you remember what you said the first night I came over here? How goes lower? From Blumhouse TV, iHeart Podcasts, and Ember 20 comes an all-new fictional comedy podcast series. Join the flighty Damien Hirst as he unravels the mystery of his vanished boyfriend.

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Before anarchism and cynicalism, the first factor shaping the radical landscape in Uruguay's 18th century was Utopian Socialism. It came to Uruguay with Eugenio Tandonet in 1844 and he was a French Utopian socialist and follower of Charles Freer who was one of the founders of Utopian socialism. That whole milieu advocated for a reconstruction of society based on communal associations of producers known as phalanges. And then with their influence afterwards came the next force of influence, the Italian migrants who had fought in the civil war. These were Republicans who eventually became socialists. And in the next influence was the mutualist movement that was inspired by Prud'homme

in the 1870s. First arising in Uruguay among artisans and workers and establishing mutual aid societies to meet people's needs. A friend of Pedro's of Pridon himself, a guy named José Ernesto Gilbert, had actually moved to Montevideo for a bit after being exiled from France. And while I don't think he did anything too actively political, he did pursue botanical studies in Uruguay and I believe there was some kind of creature named after him. So it's a fun fact. Finally as we kind of exit the 19th century, you had of course the rise of unions and internationalist

organizations. In the 1870s and 1880s, you had fights for workers rights, you had the struggle for an international socialism, and you have what Capulet identifies as a Uruguayan section of the Asociación Internacional de Trabajadores, which was established in 1872 and engaged in a public action in 1875 that had some 2000 attendees. They established something of a manifesto where one line had asked, who better and of greater faith than ourselves can destroy the criminal exploitation to which we are condemned? As a whole, the manifesto basically asked workers to unite.

And this was in a time where anarchism was finally starting to pick up in the region. Another group formed in 1876. This was the Federación Regional de la República Oriental del Uruguay, later called the Federación Obrera Regional Uruguaya, or FORU. And they published papers like La Revolución Social,, La Lucha Operera, La Federación de Trabadores, La Emancipación, and Solidaridad. And it was a very small but burgeoning movement, but they didn't take very long to start making some moves.

As Capitán Latinote, they celebrated the anniversary of the Paris Commune on March 18th and collected 40 pesos on behalf of libertarian prisoners in Lyon. They also collected money to support their papers and to support papers and efforts elsewhere, like in France. What's interesting about the Uruguayan anarchists is that they were among the most internationalists that I have found so far. You know, like other parts of Latin America, they did have a large immigrant population. Yeah. But because I suppose the size of Uruguay

compared to other countries, the immigrant population was probably larger proportional to their neighbors. So they ended up having a much greater connection to movements and you know, things that are happening in other parts of the world, including their home countries. Yeah, that makes sense. I'm trying to remember exactly when this began, but there was a movement among anarchists, I guess in the early, more in the early 20th century, to learn Esperanto as part of their internationalism.

Yes, that's actually a history that I would love to cover in an episode. I will connect you to somebody who writes books about it with pleasure. Really? Yeah. Yeah. That would be fantastic. My first book was about the anti-fascist Olympics and the last surviving popular Olympian, Eduardo Vivancos died in 2022 in Canada in an old people's home. I've been trying to visit him, but because of the COVID restrictions in the old people's home. I've been trying to visit him, but because of the COVID restrictions in the old people's home, I wasn't able to. But he had served as a Esperanto translator at the popular Olympics and lived out his whole life with this dream of like,

if we can break down the linguistic barriers between workers, then we can get together and change things. Wow. That is fascinating. You know what's interesting about the whole Esperanto connection to anarchism? Is that long before I really got into anarchism, or even learned about anarchism, I actually tried to learn Esperanto. There you go. It worked. They see that this is what they wanted.

You saw the barriers fall down once you began speaking Esperanto. That's where you go. It worked, they see that this is what they wanted. You saw the barriers fall down once you began speaking Esperanto. Yeah, I didn't get very far. I think it was around the time when like Duolingo at first introduced it into their like courses. Oh, okay. And so I saw it and I like did like a brief reading on it and I was like, oh, this looks interesting. And so I tried to pick it up and I studied it for a little while, but I didn't get particularly far.

Yeah. But now we're looking in the connection between Esperanto and Antinacism. It's like, wow, you know, the seeds were already there in a sense. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You were ready for it. That was a dream of the, of the 1920s and 30s. I'm glad that you're living it. For sure.

And actually we're about to enter, well, at least the 20th century in our little historical review here. Anarchism was really starting to finally pick up steam by this point, becoming very commonly known across Uruguay. In fact, by 1911, according to Capuleti's research of the official stats, there were 117,000 industrial workers in Uruguay, and of those, 90,000 were affiliated with the FORU. So about 76% of those industrial workers were affiliated with an explicitly anarchist organization. That included port workers, construction workers, metal workers, horse drivers, railway workers and a lot more.

And to be honest with you, I'm not entirely sure what kept them from taking bolder action compared to some of their neighbours considering their proportion, the numbers they had. But unfortunately it didn't take very long for the movement to be divided. Particularly after the Russian Revolution, there was of course the influence of Bolshevik ideas that split the movement somewhat, bringing workers onto the Bolshevik cause. And then of course you had Bolshevik sponsorship that was within the USSR's interest to support USSR aligned movements worldwide. And so a lot of libertarian groups around the world went into decline in that time, including in Uruguay. Some of the unions ended up faltering under the pressure of both the state

and of course the new draw that was the Marxist-Leninist groups. But of course the libertarians never really gave up, as they don't tend to, historically speak. So the unions and groups continued acting, continued producing papers. In fact there was a major surge in unionization in the 1940s, according to Paul Sharkey's De Federacion Anarchquista de Uruguay, especially among the textile workers, railwaymen, dockers, construction workers, and meat packers. And then outside of the union and paper-pushing scene, Uruguayan writers continued to shape

the cultural scene with anarchist ideas. Florencio Sanchez, for example, was a playwright in the Rio de la Plata region whose experience in nationalist militias led him to align himself with anarchist circles. He worked as a journalist while actively participating in anarchist organizations and publications, including La Protesta and Buenos Aires. His plays tackled social issues such as class struggle, intergenerational conflicts, and the hardships of the working class. Then you also had other, unacquired literary figures influenced by anarchism and contributing

to the libertarian literary movement, including poet Julio Herrera Irceg, novelist Horacio Quiroga, and bohemian writer Roberto de las Carreras. And interestingly, there was another notable figure in anarchism connected to perhaps one of the most notable figures in anarchism, and that was the friend and biographer of Erico Malatesta himself, Luigi Fabri. Fabri founded the journal Studi Sociali, which was one of the strongest libertarian publications in Uruguay and Latin America.

And after he died, his daughter, Lucie Fabry, continued his work and edited the journal until 1946. Lucie Fabry was also one of the founders of the FAU, and she also published quite a few books in her time, many of which have yet to be translated into English. I wish I could, you know, check them out. Yeah. Paul Sharkey, you just mentioned, he's the guy, he's translated like a library of anarchist text. Yeah, yeah. I think translators, they don't get as much praise as they should, you know,

they're really an underrated contribution to the movement and to the propagation of the movement in to the propagation of the movement in new spaces. Yeah, absolutely. I translated some texts for a zine last year and it is a lot of work. Yep. But yeah, massive respect to people who do that. Unfortunately, translation is not as simple as just going word for word. You know, you really do have to get the spirit of the text out of it somehow,

sometimes with different phrasing and that kind of thing. Yeah, exactly. It's difficult. Google can't do that for you. Yep. I mean, I appreciate having the ability to like go on a website and like have Google Translate translate the web page quickly for me, but that has very clear and obvious weaknesses, you know, when you go through it in terms

of actually translating the information. Yeah. It's good for like getting like a vague gist. Right. But professional translators aren't going away anytime soon. No, no, it's a great thing to do if you have a couple of languages. Like to make the world visible from someone else's perspective is such a wonderful thing to like be able to try and share that is really special. Yeah particularly for the less less well-known or less popular

languages. Yeah. You know although you'll be surprised some of the most popular languages most widely spoken languages in the world are still lacking some key translations or some very key literature you You know, you'd be surprised like the kinds of texts that we take for granted, the theory and stuff we take for granted, that's just not available and vice versa. You know, there's probably a lot of gems out there that have yet to hit the English language. Definitely. Yeah. Yeah. Like just because especially if it's a big language, like a language is something like Arabic or Spanish, Mandarin, where so many people speak

it already. Like there's less need to translate it because like it's getting out there, I suppose. So there isn't quite the same like urgency to translate it. But the idea is get out through sort of paraphrase, I suppose, because enough people can read it in the original language and then paraphrase it in other languages. Yeah, as long as the idea gets there, you know, the exact words may not necessarily be important. Yeah, it is some beauty and like the piece I translated was pretty short, but the Belgian anarchist who fought in the Spanish Civil War and then went into exile in South America. But the way he writes about the revolutionary moment is one of the most perfect and beautiful encapsulations I've ever read. So like it was nice to be able to share that. You should send that to me. What is it called?

It's called rejecting or refuting the legend by a guy called Luis Mercier Vega was the name he went by. Sometimes he also called himself Charles Riddle. Neither of those were his real names, but those are the names he lived most of his life under. I've been reading a lot of translations of De Ruti column memoirs. Another wonderful one is called Sons of the Night, which is by an Italian anarchist who fought in Spain and then lived the rest of his life in France. And then it's a beautiful book because he was a groundskeeper at the libertarian club in Marseille. And the young people of the libertarian club were so influenced by his The young people of the libertarian club were

so influenced by his life and his experiences and the way he talked about the world that after his passing, they translated his diary and then wrote this huge historical sort of it. The footnotes are four times as long as the book because the footnotes explain the things that he's talking about and who the characters are. And it's a really kind of beautiful text. And it has the authors call themselves the Ximenologues, like the followers of Antoine Chiminez. So it's kind of anonymously authored. And I think it's a really special, like, literary project.

Wow. That is something that always moves me. You know, when somebody is able to have such an impact on the lives of others that even in their absence, people, you know, continue their life's work. Yeah, yeah, it's a really special thing. I'll send you a link to it when we're done. But I've diverted us a long way from Uruguay, I'm sorry. Oh, that's fine. That's fine. I think for this episode, there's just one other interesting moment in Uruguay's Anarchist history that I want to cover and I'll leave it at that before the next episode.

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Listen as I take down my scammer on Once Upon a Con on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. So there was an experiment in the 50s in Uruguay called the comunidad del Sur, which was an anarchist intentional community experiment. And Capuletti talks about it briefly. That's an effort by folks to live and work and eat and rear children together away from the injustices of capitalism and the state. Now anarchism is not about establishing intentional communities, but many anarchists have found great reprieve

and great joy in establishing those communities, in finding love and care and connection in those spaces. So these people spent about 20 years living together, making decisions together, sharing finances and sharing education. But the Uruguayan military dictatorship stepped in and put an end to the project in 1976. They spent that time afterwards living in exile.

First they settled in Peru and then they ended up in Spain and then after that they found themselves in Sweden of all places where they continued their communal life and engaged in international political education. So that's all I ended up learning about them at first, but I wanted to dig a little deeper and find out what happened to them after that. And I wasn't finding that information in English language sources. So I ended up unfortunately having to lean upon Google translate for the Swedish and Spanish Wikipedia's,

but those pages went into a little bit more depth. And so I was able to find out that this group ended up taking part in the occupation of the Mulvaden neighborhood in the late 70s. And they also translated Latin American anarchist texts into Swedish and vice versa. And then when the dictatorship in Uruguay ended, they returned to Uruguay with the money they raised with the help of their Swedish comrades. And initially a few stayed in Stockholm, so there was a split effort between Uruguay and Sweden for a bit. But the ones in Sweden were able to send money and equipment home. And so eventually they were all able to send money and equipment home and so eventually they were all able to focus in Uruguay and set up a printery and established a farm in the countryside outside Montevideo

on land purchased with money collected in Sweden where they focused on collective farming and organic agriculture. I mean apparently they're still active today. I found what seems to be their website but it's not accessible, it's down. I tried to dig for it on Web Archive but I wasn't getting much information out of that. But I also found a Swedish website that was talking about their activity and I'll drop that in the show notes as well. Oh yeah that would be cool.

So that particular website they said, and this is the Google translation of what they said but it was quote, In parallel with the other activities, the organization runs a farm where it produces sweets from figs, guava, blackberries, and citrus fruits. It also preserves vegetables such as peppers and eggplant, and produces its own tomato sauce. This small-scale industry that the organization has built up is mainly run by a women's group. Comunidad del Sur also participates in the collective La Pitanga that works for equality

between women and men and against violence against women." So they're doing some really important work in Uruguay after all these years. I can't find their exact location but it seems they're based somewhere in La Paz. If anybody wants to reach out for further details, what they're up to these days, their story is really fascinating to me, so I'd love to find out. Just that the whole idea of this group facing this dictatorial repression, resettling somewhere else, catching their breath, engaging in actions elsewhere, and then me being able to return home and continue the work, I find that very inspiring. Yeah, that's really cool. That's what we hope for, you know, when like people are forced into exile

to be able to return eventually and to be like accepted into the community where they find themselves and are able to like, like you say, catch your breath and build their strength and return. That's really cool. Yeah, I mean, shout out to the Swedish anarchists who would have, you know, moved in solidarity with them and held them set up and that kind of thing if they did. Yeah, the Swedish have been really good at accepting migrants and refugees. Unfortunately, a number of people who had received asylum in Sweden were killed this week, so fucking sucks. I repeat to them.

Yes, I've noticed the mood is shifting as of late. Yeah, all around the world. Thanks to the wonder of social media, I think. Yeah. But you see the digression we had about translation, they ended up connecting. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Beautiful. Yeah. Everyone listening, start learning Esperanto. I think that's a great hobby. Although I do question, I think it was like a really cool project in its time.

I don't know how well it can pick up today. He had like Esperanto in the age of AI is an interesting, uh, I'd love to hear from Esperanto, honestly, like if we have Esperanto to listen, I still have a great deal of admiration for the project and like for the people who participate in it. And I've had a lot of communications with them because of their relations to Spanish anarchism and they've always been the nicest, most interesting, welcoming people. So like, yeah, if you want to be our Esperanto guest, please hit me up. Yeah.

Yeah. Maybe eventually I will get back into Esperanto and pick it up again. I'm still working on my Spanish as listeners can probably tell, but we'll get there. So we'll leave it here for today, but next time we're going to venture into how anarchists stayed active throughout the 20th century and also contributed to the development of anarchist strategy internationally. Until then, I've been Andrew Sage, I've been here with James Stout, and you can find me on YouTube.com slash Andrewizum, on Patreon.com slash StDrew.

This is It Could Happen Here. Peace be with you. It Could Happen Here is a production of Cool Zone Media. Peace be with you. descriptions. Thanks for listening. Do you remember what you said the first night I came over here? How? Goes lower? From Blumhouse TV, iHeart Podcasts, and Ember 20 comes an all-new fictional comedy podcast series. Join the flighty Damien Hirst as he unravels the mystery of his vanished boyfriend. I've been spending all my time looking for answers about what happened to Santi. And what's the way to find a missing person? Sleep with everyone he knew, obviously. Listen to The Hook Up on the iHeartRadio app,

Apple podcasts, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. I'm Mark Seale. And I'm Nathan King. This is Leave the Gun, Take the Cannoli. The five families did not want us to shoot that picture. This podcast is based on my co-host Mark Seale's best-selling book of the same title. Leave the Gun, Take the Cannole features new and archival interviews with Francis Ford Kobla, Robert Evans, James Kahn, Talia Shire, and many others.

Yes, that was a real horse's head. Listen and subscribe to Leave the Gun, Take the Canole on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. This is John Cameron Mitchell, and my new fiction podcast series, Cancellation Island, stars Holly Hunter as Karen, a wellness influencer who launches a rehab for the recently canceled. In the future, we will all be canceled for 15 minutes.

But don't worry. We'll take you from broke to woke or your money back. Cancellation Island's revolutionary rehab therapies like Bad Touch Football, Anti-Racism Spin Class, and mandatory Ayahuasca ceremonies are designed to force the cancel to confront their worst impulses.

But everything starts to fall apart when people start disappearing. Karen, where have you brought us? Cancellation Island, where a second chance might just be your last. Listen to Cancellation Island on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Love it first swipe? I highly doubt it.

Reality TV and social media have love all wrong. So what really makes relationships last? On this episode of Dope Labs, poet and relationship expert, Young Pueblo breaks down the psychology of love and provides eye-opening insights and advice we all need. It's a big realization moment that you should not be postponing your happiness. Like your greatest happiness is not necessarily going to like come from a relationship. Your partner, they should add to your happiness, but your happiness is really coming from within

you. Listen to Dope Labs on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.