It Could Happen Here - Anatomy of the Great Replacement Panic feat. Steven Monacelli & Dr. Michael Phillips

Episode Date: November 19, 2024

Around the world, racist influencers have instigated a panic over shadowy global elites who have supposedly conspired to flood white-majority countries with immigrants from Latin America, Africa and A...sia in order to destroy Western civilization.  This idea, called the Great Replacement Theory, has inspired mass shootings from New Zealand to Buffalo, NY. This episode outlines the history of the Great Replacement Theory and explores the toxic political and social atmosphere that led to the murder of 23 Mexicans and Mexican-Americans and the wounding of 22 others at a Walmart in El Paso, TX on August 3, 2019. Sources: Richard Wolin, "'The Leprosy of the Soul in Our Time': On The European Origins of the 'Great Replacement Theory," Los Angeles Review of Books, August 4, 2022, https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/the-leprosy-of-the-soul-in-our-time-on-the-european-origins-of-the-great-replacement-theory/ Richard Slotkin, Gunfighter Nation: The Myth of the Frontier in Twentieth Century America (University of Oklahoma Press, 1998), https://www.amazon.com/Gunfighter-Nation-Frontier-Twentieth-Century-America/dp/0806130318See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:03:00 Call Zone Media. This program includes violent content, which some listeners might find disturbing. I'm Michael Phillips, an historian and the author of a book about racism in Dallas called White Metropolis, an upcoming book about the eugenics movement in Texas called The Purifying Knife. I'm Stephen Monticelli, an investigative reporter who covers political extremism in Texas and beyond. In the pitch start just before midnight on August 3rd, 2019, Patrick Crucius took off on what would soon be an infamous journey. The young man from the Dallas suburb of Allen, Texas, had become obsessed with an idea that would soon move him to murder.
Starting point is 00:03:46 That idea had been inspired in part by Renaud Camus, a French racist enraged by the growing Muslim population in Europe. In 2011, Camus had given a new name to what was actually an old idea with the publication of his book, Le Grand Replacement, which translates in English to The Great Replacement. Camus argued that global elites had conspired to replace the white, culturally superior population of Europe with darker-skinned people who were mostly Muslims from the Middle East and Africa. He claimed these elites had opened the door to mass migration, discouraged white reproduction, and encouraged the newcomers to intermarry with whites. This racial displacement, Camus asserted, had brought crime and terrorism to Europe and threatened the very survival of Western culture. Camus' idea predated World War II.
Starting point is 00:04:45 predated World War II. The Great Replacement Theory hardly deferred from key ideas promoted by eugenicists in Western Europe and the United States in the late 19th century and early 20th century. Eugenicists sought to ensure the survival of those they believed to be biologically superior. Their methods included forced sterilization and harsh immigration restrictions. Failure in this mission, they believed, would lead to white extinction. But Camus' book enraged and energized a new generation of far-right extremists, not just in his native France, but all around the world. Camus didn't specifically identify the elite supposedly responsible for what he called a reverse colonization of the European homeland, But leaders of the international far right quickly filled in the blanks.
Starting point is 00:05:29 The great replacement, conspiracy theorists insisted, had been engineered by Jews, who desired to destroy the Aryans who served as their only competitors for global control. In the chaos that would unfold as Europe racially darkened, Jewish people would supposedly complete their conquests of the world's politics and finances and would enslave a now intellectually backward global workforce. Camus' racist fever dream ricocheted around the world and left behind it a trail of blood. The dread of the Great Replacement animated a coalition of neo-Nazis and other white supremacists who swarmed Charlottesville, Virginia on the night of August 11, 2017 for a, quote, Unite the Right rally, protesting the proposed removal of a statue honoring Confederate General Robert E. Lee. Carrying tiki torches, with many wearing matching polo shirts and khakis, the extremists paraded on the grounds of the University of Virginia campus chanting, White Lives Matter, and a phrase directly inspired by Camus' now six-year-old polemic. Jews will not replace us! Jews will not replace us! Jews will not replace us! replace us! Jews will not replace us! The next day, one of the racist marchers murdered an anti-racism activist, Heather Heyer, when he rammed his car into a crowd of counter-protesters.
Starting point is 00:06:55 The following year, in 2018, a 46-year-old white nationalist who feared a hypothetical Jewish and Muslim plot to take over America, entered the Tree of Life Synagogue in Pittsburgh's Squirrel Hill neighborhood, and using a long rifle and three semi-automatic pistols, sprayed the congregation with bullets over a period of 20 minutes, murdering 11 and wounding 6. The synagogue had participated in a program to aid migrants fleeing violence and poverty in Central America. Charity work that prompted the murderer, Robert Bowers, to post online that such organizations, quote,
Starting point is 00:07:33 like to bring in invaders that kill our people. I can't sit by and watch my people get slaughtered. The Great Replacement Theory and its online promoters claimed a high body count in 2019. On March 15, a 28-year-old Australian man, Brendan Tarrant, live-streamed his slaughter of 51 Muslims and the wounding of 89 others at two mosques in Christchurch, New Zealand. Tarrant authored a 74-page manifesto, which he emailed to newspapers and television stations, as well as New Zealand's Prime Minister. He repeatedly referred to the Great Replacement Theory and expressed admiration for Anders Breivik, a Norwegian neo-Nazi terrorist who had killed 77 people in 2011 because of his hatred for Muslims who have settled across the European continent. In his manifesto, Tarrant praised American President Donald Trump as a, quote,
Starting point is 00:08:28 In his manifesto, Tarrant praised American President Donald Trump as a, quote, symbol of renewed white identity and common purpose. The murders inspired by the Great Replacement Theory were far from over. 27, 2019, and three others died and 17 more suffered injuries during an attack at the Gilroy Garlic Festival in the same state on July 28. This was the heartbreaking worldwide context in which Patrick Crucius of Allen, Texas, took a fatal journey just six days after the Gilroy massacre. Crucius marked his 21st birthday just the weekend before the massacre. But for the unemployed young man, it was not a happy occasion. He had grown up watching his father struggle with chemical dependency. High school classmates described him as withdrawn, and one claimed he had been bullied by Spanish-speaking students. His parents divorced, and he moved to his
Starting point is 00:09:21 grandparents' home in a suburb north of Dallas called Allen, a town with a median family income of more than $121,000 and a history of white flight. Unemployed, Crucias spent a lot of hours on 8chan, an online message board favored by white supremacists. Crucias had given himself a grim mission he believed no one else had the guts to carry out. According to the Dallas Morning News, late that Friday evening, he loaded his humble 2012 Honda Civic with his laptop computer, 1,000 rounds of hollow point bullets, earmuffs, and a semi-automatic civilian version of an AK-47 he had ordered online from Romania. The Texas Tribune later reported that as of 2019, Romania was exporting 9,000 AK-47s to the United States every year. He also brought heavily insulated gloves because that rifle, he would later complain,
Starting point is 00:10:20 overheats massively after about 100 shots are fired in quick secession. The college student sought to start a war, one he thought he wouldn't survive, but that, if others followed his example, might save the country. Ahead of his 10-hour trek westward across the vast Texas landscape, Crucias filled his gas tank and pumped himself with energy drinks. He arrived in El Paso at about 8 a.m., first parking at a Cici's Pizza, which happened to be closed. He then cruised around the border city of almost 700,000 people, where 63% of the population primarily speaks Spanish at home. He eventually stopped at the parking lot of a Walmart superstore, nicknamed the Juarez Walmart because of the large number of customers who shop there from across the Mexican border. About 3,000 people in all were estimated to be at the retail outlet
Starting point is 00:11:11 when Crucius arrived. Crucius walked inside and cased the joint for at least half an hour. He went back to his Civic and sat for a while in contemplation. Hungry, he went back into the store, bought an orange, and then, after returning to his car. Hungry, he went back into the store, bought an orange, and then, after returning to his car a second time, gobbled it. He then posted online a 2,388-word racist screed called The Inconvenient Truth. At about 10.38,
Starting point is 00:11:39 Crucias stepped out of his car, weapon in hand, and began massacring Mexicans and Mexican-Americans he described in his manifesto as quote the invaders this is an nbc news special report here's jose diaz-billard good afternoon and update now on that deadly shooting here a busy shopping mall in el paso texas it happened at a walmart near cielo Mall this morning, about 10 a.m. local time. The scene is about seven miles from downtown El Paso.
Starting point is 00:12:08 In about three minutes, Crucius slaughtered 23 and wounded 22 others. In spite of expressing a wish that he would die in the attack, Crucius surrendered. Police quickly connected Crucius to his internet diatribe, which he opened by saying he quote supports the christ church shooter and his manifesto referring to brenton tarrant crucius then pivoted to outrage over mexican immigration in the united states jason whiteley of a wfaa in dallas reported on the manifesto's disturbing content in the letter the shooter describes himself as a white nationalist, a right-wing extremist consumed by conspiracy theories. In short, he thinks that white people are being replaced by immigrants in this country. The letter states this attack is in response to the Hispanic invasion of
Starting point is 00:12:57 Texas. They are the instigators, he wrote, not me. I'm simply defending my country from cultural and ethnic replacement brought on by an invasion. By the time of the El Paso massacre, 80 men, women, and children had been murdered by extremists inspired by the great replacement theory in 2019 alone. The carnage didn't end at El Paso. On May 14, 2022, a white suspect wrote a hateful rant he posted online before murdering 10 and wounding three African Americans in a Buffalo, New York supermarket. He linked declining white birth rates to genocide. On May 6, 2023, Mauricio Martinez Garcia, a Latino white supremacist who embraced neo-Nazi ideology, drove from his Dallas apartment to an outlet mall in Cruces' hometown of Allen.
Starting point is 00:13:53 Tattooed with a swastika, Garcia shot to death nine people, including a three-year-old, and wounded seven others before being killed by a police officer. Garcia seemed to be targeting Asians and Asian Americans. Throughout this mayhem, the political right has proven eager to blame everything but the wide-open gun laws in places like Texas, which made it legal for Crucias to mail order a civilian-style AK-47. There was no interrogation of the long history of racism or of repeated Republican rhetoric depicting immigrants as dangerous, but there were other convenient excuses.
Starting point is 00:14:30 In an interview on the Sunday edition of Fox & Friends shortly after the El Paso tragedy, Texas Lieutenant Governor Dan Patrick offered a menu of alternative explanations for the mass shootings, such as video games. He also suggested that public schools needed a healthy infusion of theocracy and reverence for the stars and stripes. Where are we as a country? I look at social media, the violence of just bullying people on social media every day, and we turn our head and we allow it. I look at on a Sunday morning one, most of your viewers right now, half of the country
Starting point is 00:15:05 are getting ready to go to church and yet tomorrow we won't let our kids even pray in our schools. We have to look at ourselves as a nation. It's many factors that go into these shootings, many factors. And it's not a time to politicize, it's a time to look deep inside of who we are as a country where we no longer salute our flag or we throw water on law enforcement and thank god we have law enforcement in recent years lieutenant governor dan patrick has described immigration at the southern border as an invasion
Starting point is 00:15:36 that is part of a democratic plan to quote take over our country without firing a shot in response to this alleged plan, Patrick has said that Texas has a right to defend itself from the threat of criminal invaders in a Fox News interview in 2024. For all those people who should come here legally processed and vetted in that group are hundreds of thousands, thousands and thousands of criminals, murderers, molesters, gang members, drug dealers, carjackers, kidnappers, you name it. They're part of this group and terrorists. Patrick Cruz's panic about white genocide and the violent rise of black and brown people
Starting point is 00:16:18 against Western civilization had deep roots in American culture. The Texas history of segregation, white flight, post-September 11th Islamophobia, and the backlash to globalization poisoned Crucius' particular worldview. But perhaps the biggest factor in Crucius' murderous rampage was that he was taught to hate and fear immigrants by the grown-ups around him in the Dallas-Fort Worth area. But before we get into that, a quick ad break. Hey, guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more.
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Starting point is 00:19:53 And we're kicking off our second season digging into how tech's elite has turned Silicon Valley into a playground for billionaires. From the chaotic world of generative AI to the destruction of Google search, From the chaotic world of generative AI to the destruction of Google search, better offline is your unvarnished and at times unhinged look at the underbelly of tech from an industry veteran with nothing to lose. This season, I'm going to be joined by everyone from Nobel-winning economists to leading journalists in the field, and I'll be digging into why the products you love keep getting worse and naming and shaming those responsible.
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Starting point is 00:20:36 and what could be done to make things better. Listen to Better Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever else you get your podcasts. Check out betteroffline.com. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba.
Starting point is 00:20:59 He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez. Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian. Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom.
Starting point is 00:21:30 At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation. Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, The fear of white extinction at the hands of so-called savages dates back to Puritan New England in the 1600s. 1600s. Even as they lethally infected tens of thousands of Native peoples with bubonic plague, malaria, measles, smallpox, and typhus, English colonizers slew thousands more in wars of conquest that did not spare the very old, infants, the disabled, or the unarmed. Puritans didn't just kill Native Americans. They often tortured them first and desecrated their bodies with
Starting point is 00:22:22 rituals of humiliation, such as scalping. With each act of genocide, however, the Puritans projected those war crimes on their victims. One Puritan leader, William Bradford, the governor of the Plymouth colony, warned that whites were in, quote, continual danger of the savage people. A white habit of mind formed that relieved any guilt the inhabitants of colonial America might feel about their bloodthirsty conquests. The invaders became the defenders of the homeland, the out-armed became the menace, and the vanquished became the aggressors. In effect, genocide became an act of self-defense. In the Lone Star State, public school students are required to study Texas history. Crucius would have been fed highly distorted accounts of the Texas Revolution of 1835 to 1836.
Starting point is 00:23:13 Although the content has improved since the Civil Rights Movement, for the most part, Texas history textbooks have depicted Mexican soldiers as ruthless killers who, without qualms, shot Anglo soldiers at the Battle of Goliad in southeast Texas and the survivors at the Alamo after they surrendered. These same students were not typically taught that white Texans massacred 650 Mexican soldiers, most of whom had already cast away their weapons after the Battle of San Jacinto, the engagement that ended the Texas Revolutionary War. Until the late 20th century, Texas students were also taught that after the Civil War, the abolition of slavery, and the enfranchisement of African Americans, dangerous chaos reigned. of racist myth was promoted in textbooks and classroom lectures that reconstruction, the state's first brief failed experiment in multiracial democracy, was actually a tragedy. According to
Starting point is 00:24:12 the legend promoted in schoolhouses, reconstruction was defined not by increased literacy, improved infrastructure, and the expansion of black human rights, but instead by political corruption, wild government overspending, high taxes, out-of-control crime, and endemic incompetence. During Reconstruction, children were taught, the United States armed African American soldiers who then harassed and assaulted harmless whites, especially women. In short, across the curriculum, white students learned that whenever black and brown people gained power politically, socially, or economically, white people have been in mortal peril, a lesson that implies the need to kill or be killed. In the 1920s and 1930s, white American school kids across
Starting point is 00:24:58 the country were indoctrinated into accepting eugenics in their biology classes. They learned that if they didn't produce large enough families, whites would lose a demographic race to Jews, Italians, Russians, and other immigrants pouring into the country. A best-selling American author in the 1920s, Lothrop Stoddard, warned his readers that unless trends were reversed, racially superior Nordics, as he called those from Western Northern Europe, might have to fight a war of extermination to stem a deadly tide of color that would engulf white people worldwide. El Paso shooter Patrick Crucius grew up in Collin County,
Starting point is 00:25:36 which borders Dallas County on the north. The county's wealth before the Civil War derived primarily from cotton cultivated by enslaved labor. During Reconstruction, clansmen organized in the county seat of McKinney to terrorize African Americans into not voting. African Americans continued to toil as farm labor after Reconstruction, and the white population kept them under tight control through occasional outbursts of homicidal violence. In the summer of 1898, local whites panicked when between 30 to 40 African Americans from out of town routinely gathered during a rainy season in hopes to be on hand when the weather cleared up so they could resume working. Ominous notices began to appear around the town that said, quote, Mr. Negro, don't let the sun go down on you. On June 15th of that year,
Starting point is 00:26:23 Klansmen warned black residents that they had no more than 10 days to leave the area. One family, the Sebrins, became the target of a violent mob of vigilantes known as White Cappers, who arrived at their home in the middle of the night to punish them for not vacating their home on Main Street. Anticipating the arrival of the terrorists, Jake Sebrin stood by the door of his home holding a Winchester rifle. When his assailants realized he had a gun, they fired into the house. Jake then attempted to shoot back, but he was unable to stop the assailants from fatally shooting his pregnant wife, Laura. The three Sebrin children were found screaming and clinging to bedsheets near their
Starting point is 00:27:00 mother's bloody body inside their home when it was all said and done. Whitecapper violence continued for years across the state, targeting both African Americans and Mexican Americans in an effort to maintain white supremacy. Thirteen years later, on August 11, 1911, Collin County authorities arrested a Farmersville man, Commodore Jones, for allegedly flirting with a white telephone operator. A mob of 300 outraged whites seized Jones from police custody, carried him to the city square, and hanged him from a pole in front of the telephone office. In spite of this bloody history, Collin County got rich and by the 1970s transformed into a major urban center. This development correlated with white flight
Starting point is 00:27:46 as Dallas glacially succumbed to court-ordered desegregation beginning in the 1960s, and after an uprising in response to a Dallas police officer forcing a 12-year-old Latino, Santos Rodriguez, to play a fatal game of Russian roulette in the backseat of a police squad car. White flight fueled a population explosion in Collin County. Governed by conservatives who kept property taxes low compared to those in the metropolitan center to the south, corporations followed this population shift. During the half century between the 1970s and the 2020s, Dr. Pepper, Frito-Lay, JCPenney, Keurig, Pizza Hut, and the Professional Golfers Association of America, as well as Toyota, planted their corporate headquarters there.
Starting point is 00:28:30 However, even if whites moved to Collin County in the 1970s to avoid school integration and feared urban unrest, the new corporations brought with them diverse workforces that include Muslims, Hindus, and people of color from all around the world. forces that include Muslims, Hindus, and people of color from all around the world. In 2000, non-Hispanic whites made up slightly more than 81% of the Collin County population. In 2020, that number was slightly less than 51%. Asian Americans and Asian immigrants made up almost 7% of the population, while Mexican Americans and immigrants from south of the Rio Grande represented more than 10%. All the ingredients needed were present for a vicious racial backlash. By 2013, the right wing in the entire Dallas-Fort Worth area was in full panic mode about immigration. In 2019, Texas was believed to have the largest Muslim population of any state, Texas was believed to have the largest Muslim population of any state, numbering about 422,000,
Starting point is 00:29:34 still less than 2% of the total state population, but one of the fastest growing religious demographics in the area. Two-thirds of that population lives in the Houston and Dallas-Fort Worth metropolitan areas. Muslim worshipers pray at as many as 55 mosques in the Dallas-Fort Worth area, and the Muslim population in north-central Texas is believed to have tripled since 2010. In 2013, Harry LaRosiliere won election as mayor in the Collin County city of Plano. Conservatives mocked him at the time as the, quote, mayor from Haiti in reference to his birthplace. When affordable multifamily housing was proposed for the suburb of Plano, fear quickly spread that black and brown low-income workers would fill those residences. Signs appeared that said, quote, don't Dallas my
Starting point is 00:30:16 Plano, referring to the largely black and brown population in the metropolitan center. Republican politicians across the Dallas-Fort Worth area began to warn that some of the newcomers plotted to impose, quote, Sharia or Muslim law. The panic stemmed from the practice of many American mosques offering non-binding mediation services, employing principles from the Quran to couples in troubled marriages, to resolve bitter business disputes between Muslims, and so on. Such arbitration is not legally binding, and Muslim practices can't be imposed on non-Muslims because of the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, which forbids the government
Starting point is 00:30:54 from establishing any sort of religion. Nevertheless, one Plano State Representative, Jeff Leach, in 2015 introduced an anti-sharia law in the Texas legislature. His bill failed, but Governor Abbott later signed a similar law in 2017. Stay with us through this ad break to learn more. Hey guys, I'm Kate Max. You might know me from my popular online series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs, and more.
Starting point is 00:31:31 After those runs, the conversations keep going. That's what my podcast, Post Run High, is all about. It's a chance to sit down with my guests and dive even deeper into their stories, their journeys, and the thoughts that arise once we've hit the pavement together. You know that rush of endorphins you feel after a great workout? Well, that's when the real magic happens. So if you love hearing real, inspiring stories from the people you know, follow, and admire, join me every week for Post Run High. It's where we take the conversation beyond the run
Starting point is 00:32:06 and get into the heart of it all. It's lighthearted, pretty crazy, and very fun. Listen to Post Run High on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jacqueline Thomas, the host of a brand new Black Effect original series, Black Lit, the podcast for diving deep into the rich world of Black literature. I'm Jack Peace Thomas, and I'm inviting you to join me and a vibrant community of literary enthusiasts dedicated to protecting and celebrating our stories. Blacklit is for the page turners, for those who listen to audiobooks while commuting or running errands, for those who find themselves seeking solace, wisdom, and refuge between the chapters. From thought-provoking novels to powerful poetry, we'll explore the stories that shape our culture. Together, we'll dissect classics and contemporary works while uncovering the stories of the brilliant writers behind them.
Starting point is 00:33:07 Blacklit is here to amplify the voices of black writers and to bring their words to life. Listen to Blacklit on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hi, I'm Ed Zitron, host of the Better Offline podcast, and we're kicking off our second season digging into how tech's elite has turned Silicon Valley into a playground for billionaires. From the chaotic world of generative AI to the destruction of Google search, Better Offline is your unvarnished and at times unhinged look at the underbelly of tech from an industry veteran with nothing to lose. This season, I'm going to be joined by everyone from Nobel-winning economists to leading journalists in the field, and I'll be digging into why the products you love keep getting worse and naming and shaming those responsible. Don't get me wrong, though. I love technology. I just hate the people in charge and want them to get back to building things that actually do things to help real people.
Starting point is 00:34:00 I swear to God things can change if we're loud enough, So join me every week to understand what's happening in the tech industry and what could be done to make things better. Listen to Better Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, wherever else you get your podcasts. Check out betteroffline.com. Hola mi gente, it's Honey German and I'm bringing you Gracias, Come Again, the podcast where we dive deep into the world of Latin culture, musica, peliculas, and entertainment
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Starting point is 00:35:13 On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez. Elian Gonzalez. Elian. Elian.
Starting point is 00:35:34 Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted with. His father in Cuba. Mr. Gonzales wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom.
Starting point is 00:35:55 At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation. Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Dread about Muslims and Sharia law dominated politics in Irving,
Starting point is 00:36:22 a suburb with a population of about a quarter million people, 12 miles northwest of Dallas, for much of 2015. In February, then-Mayor Beth Van Dyne, who later became a Trump appointee, characterized a Muslim mediation panel reportedly located at the Islamic Center of Irving as an Islamic court. located at the Islamic Center of Irving as an Islamic court. She introduced a resolution to the Irving City Council supporting Leach's proposed legislation. It passed five to four, as reported by a CBS affiliate in Dallas. Irving Mayor Beth Van Dyne has accused local Muslim leaders in the past of creating their own laws called Sharia law and adjudicating that doctrine bypassing the state and federal court system. Catholic and Jewish faiths also have similar tribunals that are presided over by faith leaders who act as arbitrators. But the local Imam here in Irving says Islam is being targeted yet
Starting point is 00:37:21 not breaking any law. They believe that we are trying to supersede the federal or state laws, and that's not the case. We work within the boundaries of federal and state law. Anti-Muslim tensions spread across the Dallas-Fort Worth area, ending in tragic violence. Anti-Muslim extremists held a deliberately provocative quote, draw the profit art contest in Garland, Texas, a city of about 235,000 just north of Dallas, knowing that the images of Muhammad are prohibited by Islam and were likely to inflame the broader Muslim community. Two heavily armed Muslim men took the bait that day, driving from out of state and arriving at the scene of the contest on May 3rd. They then shot a Garland police car before being killed with return fire. A little more than four months after the Garland
Starting point is 00:38:11 shootings, Irving police arrested Ahmed Mohammed, a Muslim of Sudanese background, on September 14, 2015, after the 14-year-old had brought a digital clock built as a personal science project to MacArthur High School. Proud of his creation, Muhammad showed the clock to one of his teachers, who subjected the boy to racial profiling. Fearing the clock might be a bomb, the teacher seized the device and sent Muhammad to the principal, who then called Irving police. Officers interrogated the boy for 90 minutes while his parents were denied access to their son. Meanwhile, a militia, inspired by Irving Mayor Van Dyne's alarmist warnings about Sharia law, showed up at two mosques in the Dallas suburbs wearing camouflage and masks and brandishing 12-gauge shotguns as they stalk worshipers going to prayer.
Starting point is 00:39:06 Islamophobia in the Dallas-Fort Worth area even extended to deceased Muslims. The Islamic Association of Collin County had hoped to establish a 35-acre burial plot in Farmersville, a town of about 4,000 people. When the Farmersville Planning and Zoning Commission approved the plan in May 2015 without a dissenting vote, furious opposition erupted, according to a CNN report. Farmersville is about 25 miles away from Garland, Texas, where in May police killed two Muslim gunmen who tried to carry out a deadly attack at a Draw the Prophet Muhammad event. One resident in Farmersville has even suggested using pigs to scare away the Muslim group. Take and dump pig's blood and pig heads on a boat. They won't buy the land.
Starting point is 00:39:51 If I had my way, I would outlaw it. Islam in America. Farmersville resident Jack Hawkins declared at a Planning and Zoning Commission meeting, quote, I would tear down every mosque that was in this country. That's how I feel about it. A local Baptist minister suggested that the cemetery would lead to the establishment of a madrasa, a Muslim religious school that could become a training ground for extremists. He was interviewed by CNN. I believe I'm a watchman on the wall, Ezekiel 33. See the incoming danger. David Meeks is the pastor of Bethlehem Baptist Church, which ironically sits next to a cemetery.
Starting point is 00:40:29 He says the cemetery could bring radical Islam to Farmersville. I see the expansion of Islam that's going on all over the world. Now it's come to my hometown. And you see that danger in a cemetery? Anytime you see the Islamic folks coming into a neighborhood, I think, in my opinion, I think you can say we could be less safe in the future than we are right now. 100 opponents of the cemetery crowded into a July 14, 2016, city council meeting in Farmersville, with some residents expressing the fear that Muslim corpses would contaminate the local water supply. Members of the local Muslim community and of the Farmersville City Council suffered threats of violence. Facing a federal lawsuit, the city of Farmersville finally relented and on September
Starting point is 00:41:16 20, 2018, allowed the Islamic Association to move ahead with purchasing the land needed for their graveyard. This is the poison air Patrick Crucius grew up breathing. He didn't kill because of computer games, because they didn't pray at schools he attended, because of protests against police violence, or the collapse of respect for authority. Crucius wrote that America is rotting, quote, from the inside out because of immigration and that unless whites took up arms against dark skinned newcomers, whites could become extinct. In his manifesto, Crucius insisted he embraced the great replacement theory before Donald Trump became president. One can only wonder how many
Starting point is 00:41:58 other self-appointed racial warriors might be inspired to violence by the 2024 presidential campaign that centered mostly on the purported dangers of what Trump repeatedly called migrant crime, including the eating of neighbors, cats, and dogs, and the spread of deadly diseases. Trump has even repeated the warnings of early 20th century eugenicists about the biological damage he claims immigrants are bringing. Bad genes to the United States, he says. Trump's incendiary anti-immigrant rhetoric has been compiled by the news site Politico. Americans have watched their communities destroyed by this sudden, suffocating inundation of illegal aliens. I said if you let them in, it's going to be hell. They are vicious, violent criminals. These are stone cold killers.
Starting point is 00:42:53 They'll walk into your kitchen, they'll cut your throat. These are people at the highest level of killing. They'd cut your throat and they won't even think about it the next morning. These people are roaming our country. They could go into a restaurant. They can do whatever they want. And they will kill you because they are wired that way. These people are animals now.
Starting point is 00:43:14 They'll say, oh, that's a terrible thing for him to say. No, no. These people are animals. It's in their genes. And we got a lot of bad genes in our country right now. That dread of white genocide has been nurtured across centuries of American history and has become one of this country's major exports. And with politicians like Donald Trump stoking fear about the alleged, quote,
Starting point is 00:43:36 enemy within and promoting mass deportations and the idea of, quote-migration which is a notion with a deeply fascist history we are almost certain to see the great replacement panic continue to boil under the surface of a society with constantly shifting demographics ongoing economic insecurity will feed into this and the passive acceptance of gun violence as the price for American freedom will certainly feed into future racist violence. This is Stephen Monacelli. And this is Michael Phillips. Thanks for listening. For more podcasts from Cool Zone Media, visit our website, coolzonemedia.com, or check us out on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. You can now find sources for It Could Happen Here listed directly in episode descriptions. Thanks for listening. series, The Running Interview Show, where I run with celebrities, athletes, entrepreneurs,
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Starting point is 00:46:29 And the question was, should the boy go back to his father in Cuba? Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home, and he wanted to take his son with him. Or stay with his relatives in Miami? Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. Listen to Chess Peace, the podcast for diving deep into the rich world of Black literature. Black Lit is for the page turners, for those who listen to audiobooks while running errands or at the end of a busy day. From thought-provoking novels to powerful poetry, we'll explore the stories that shape our culture. Listen to Black Lit on the Black Effect Podcast
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