It Could Happen Here - Autism and RFK Jr.’s War on Pregnant People
Episode Date: September 24, 2025Mia talks with unionized abortion care worker Crystal about RFK Jr.’s new announcement that Tylenol in pregnant people can cause autism and the real reproductive healthcare crises in the US. Lin...ks: https://prh.org/ https://www.instagram.com/acog_org?igsh=MXA1am4xeWg4Mzh2eA%3D%3D Sources: https://rollcall.com/factbase/trump/transcript/donald-trump-remarks-health-autism-white-house-september-22-2025/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/09/22/autism-tylenol-takeaways-trump-rfk-jr/86293921007/ https://www.npr.org/sections/shots-health-news/2025/09/22/nx-s1-5550153/trump-rfk-autism-tylenol-leucovorin-pregnancy https://www.cbsnews.com/news/world-health-experts-trump-tylenol-autism-link/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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This week is autism.
And by autism week, I mean anti-autism week.
The Trump administration, or specifically RFK Jr., promised at the beginning, it was like April, roughly, that they were going to find the cause of autism by the end of the summer.
And they are claiming that the cause of autism is taking Tylenol when you're pregnant.
And that's not true.
And to talk about how unbelievably vile and unhinged this is, is Crystal, who's a unionized abortion care worker, who is also Klozilla on Blue Sky, a friend of the show, done many things. Welcome to the show.
Yeah, thank you so much, Mia. It's always so wonderful to come and talk about horrifying things with you and be filled with existential dread together.
It's so good, and by good, I mean, the worst thing I've ever seen.
I'm like, this is such a great time to be a trans non-binary abortion care worker.
I just love, I love, like, being hated in so many different ways.
You just get like a rich tapestry of hatred towards you.
It's really great.
So good.
So, okay, that's actually kind of where I want to start about this, is that most of the media coverage of this has been purely focusing on the Thailand-in-law causing autism, or specifically that's causing autism.
And I want to point out, because most of the news articles that cover this, simply do not mention this, they are also claiming that taking Tylenol if you're pregnant causes ADHD, a thing which you think would be noteworthy to point out, but has just not.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I don't know why people aren't reading the transcripts.
I don't know why, but they're not.
Yeah, I actually hadn't seen that part.
Like, I was literally just reading and observing like this, the pregnancy and what that means for, you know, pregnant people.
And I, like, didn't see any of the ADHD stuff.
that was new when you brought that up to me. Yeah, it's just not being reported on. It's really
baffling. So I want to, before we sort of really get into the wait, hold on, why the fuck
are they doing this? What is happening here? Because, and as Chris was going to say, actually
Tylenol is safe for people who are pregnant. It's fine. But I want to go over a bit of like,
what's actually in this? Because it's a really, really weird. We're going to be getting more into the sort of,
like into the autism angle
in another episode next week
but I want to talk a little bit
about just like the actual stuff
that was in this announcement
where Trump is saying
that A you shouldn't give time
a lot of pregnant people
and also is saying like
you shouldn't give it to like young children
and is like
ranting about like mercury
and aluminum in vaccines
which like this shit isn't real
like there hasn't even been
anything like even remotely related
to mercury in vaccines for ages
and also never did anything
but this is all
weird Angie Wakefield special shit.
He also has this thing where he's talking about
like how you should separate the MMR vaccines
which is a thing that if you have
seen the H-Bomber guy video, you will know
the reason that that was an anti-vax talking
point was because Wakefield was selling separate
vaccines. And so he was trying
to convince parents that having all three of the
vaccines at once would give their kids autism, but if you did
it separately, it wouldn't.
Through scientific things that don't make any sense
even according to his own
incredibly made up
bullshit. Wakefield, by the way, is the guy who
sort of kicked off the modern anti-vaccine movements by abusing a bunch of children
and publishing an incredibly fake study and then getting it retracted and then getting his
medical license retracted because it was incredibly fake and abused children. So Trump is sort of
just repeating the stuff that he's like vaguely remembers. There's a whole bunch of this sort
of like stuff he vaguely remembers. Like he's he goes on a random rant about like how Cuba
doesn't have Tylenol so they don't have autism.
And that Amish people, and this is the one that it goes around a lot,
it's like, oh, those people don't have autism because they don't take drugs.
And it's like, oh, my God.
I also just, I want to read a quote from RFK Jr. about this, which, again, and I want to point this out,
the actual point of this thing is announcing that the FDA is not going to recommend that you take
acetamatephine or Tylenol if you're pregnant.
I'm just going to read this, and I'm going to ask if you can figure out what the link between this and Tylenol is.
This is from RFK Jr., quote,
President Trump believes that we should be listening to these mothers
instead of gaslighting and marginalizing them,
marginalizing them like prior administrations.
Some of our friends like to say we should believe all women.
Some of these same people have been silencing and demonizing these mothers for three decades
because research on the potential link between autism and vaccines has been suppressed in the past.
So is this basically talking about kind of like the celebrity anti-vax people
and like the grifters and yeah yeah it's like I can't believe that oh I mean I can believe but like A the fact that RFK Jr. noted repeatedly accused of sexual assault and whose response when asked to about it was quote I have a lot of skeletons in my closet is doing believe all women but about vaccines causing autism yeah I mean it's only just like a talking point that they can use in their favor it's never actually
about, you know.
I hate it. I hate it.
Yeah. Oh, God.
And like, this is just like the average thing in this speech that isn't barely even getting news coverage.
I mean, there's also what Trump said as well, which.
Oh, yeah.
Because I've seen a lot of that too.
And it's like between what Trump said and what RFK Jr. said, it's like, where do you even, like, where does the media focus?
Like, how do you explain this to the American audience?
Yeah, it's ridiculous.
And then they also brought in Marty McAray, who's the commissioner.
of the FDA, who has a giant rant about how, like, I learned in medical school just treat fevers,
low-grade fevers with acetametaphene. Why? What are we doing? A study out of Hopkins actually
showed treating a fever can prolong the duration of illness in a young child. Maybe that's because
fever is a body's natural way of ridding an infection. Yeah, well, that's absolutely not true.
I mean, there's like, we know that, like, fevers are dangerous for young children and pregnant
people. It's, yeah, I don't, I don't know. It's just, it's just total made-up bullshit.
Like, it's just eugenics, right? Like, they're like, oh, no, you shouldn't actually do anything
to treat the illnesses because if the child is strong, then, like, they'll go through it naturally
and they'll become stronger. And it's like, no, that's eugenics. Yeah, this goes for the
pregnancy of it all, too, because it's about being able to suffer and enduring. And it's, it's the same
case, the same kind of like puritanical survival of the fittest, eugenics shit, whether you're talking
about pregnancy or you're talking about like literally young children who have fevers.
Same, same like approach.
Yeah, this also links directly back to what they're trying to do here, right?
Because the thing that they're trying to do is get rid of autistic people.
Yeah.
Like, they don't want there to be children born with autism.
Yeah.
And in order to do this, they are willing to not take vaccines.
They are willing to, well, I mean, I guess, I guess I should say the not letting pregnant people take Tylenol is really, truly the most.
Some of you must die, but that's a sacrifice I'm willing to make thing that I've ever seen.
But it's, you know, it's absolutely hideous.
It's like, yeah, these people, they don't want autistic kids to be born, you know, and that's also just,
straight up part of the eugenics thing that the like project that they're doing right there's on the
one hand the sort of pure survival of the fittest fuck them kids let them just die of fevers and then on
the other hand there's the just active like oh we're just going to do all this stuff that we think
will just make a there not be autistic kids yeah and they definitely care more about there being
less autistic children than there are about actually like you know addressing infant mortality
Yeah. And it's definitely, it's treating autism as in something that can be prevented by the choice of the parents, as opposed to it just being something that some people are born that way. Also, you know, same with being queer and trans and all these things. It's this idea that you can like choose it, that you can, like if the parents are strong enough, then they can endure enough pain and they can suffer enough. And if they, you know, make the right choices, then they can avoid having a child with autism. And it's. And it's, you know,
not really that dissimilar than, like, oh, what to do if you, like, have a queer child,
a trans child.
It's this idea that, like, that is something that can be controlled and eliminated, which is
eugenics, which is, you know, as you've been saying, so definitely.
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The products and services?
I would really hope so.
I fucking hope.
I really hope.
I don't know.
I cannot, I don't know what these ads are going to be.
If they are eugenics, let us know at I write okay on Twitter in.
Blue Sky. Actually, I don't know if he's still on Twitter. I have no idea. I've been on there in ages.
Woo. These ads.
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So let's talk about specifically the don't use Tylenol of it.
at all, can you talk a bit about just like the importance of Tylenol and pain management for
pregnant people? Yeah. And I bet like there's definitely probably people out there who are like,
why Tylenol, why did they choose this? Like where did this come from? Is it because Trump can't
say a sentiment of Benifin? You know, a lot of people have been, you know, speculating. And first off,
I do want to say that autism predates Tylenol. Like, oh. Like, Tylenol like came to be in like the
1950s and, you know, autism existed before that and has probably already.
already always been around to some degree, which we don't know. I don't know. It's a very complex,
and we're still, you know, there's been so much stigma around it for so long that it's
difficult to talk about. But Tylenol is basically one of the only pain medications that
pregnant people can take. And that's why it's Tylenol. I think that that is the way of looking at
this, where it's like, why did they single out this medication? And it's because it's the only
pain medication that a pregnant person can take. Because as we know, there's other pain
medications like the inseds like ibuprofen and aproxin and then of course there's opioids which is
obviously not good during pregnancy they'll course talk to your doctor because i'm not a doctor
and you should always get this from doctors talk to your OBGYN but um ns are typically not
recommended in the last three months of pregnancy because they can cause issues with amniotic fluid
and um baby's kidneys and things like that so it is typically recommended that you avoid
ibuprofen and other things like that and you take time.
to reduce fevers, to reduce pain. Obviously, there is a lot to be sick with when you're
pregnant. There's a lot of sources of the pain. You know, fever and headaches are definitely
something that pregnant people experience. But pretty much like, because it is the only pain
medication that pregnant people can take, then it's really easy to be like, oh, well, what are they
taking? This is what they're taking. And then you can go from there. And this is very much
coming from, it feels so weird saying this,
coming from like a biblical sense of like Eve,
eat the apple, Eve is the original sinner, I think, I don't know.
Like, you know, Eve did the bad thing.
So Eve needs to suffer during pregnancy.
All women need to suffer during pregnancy.
That's a very much like a very biblical take on this.
And I think that is kind of why Tylenol,
because it's what pregnant people are taking to reduce pain
and to address fevers.
Yeah, and I want to read a quote from the commissioner of the FDA that he gave while he was speaking about this, where he says, quote,
When my wife was pregnant and delivered our son a few months ago, they pushed her to take acetymedophine for a low-grade fever.
She said no, and then they looked at me and I said absolutely no.
I'm also here to announce good news.
Today, the FDA is filing a federal registered notice to change the label on an exciting treatment called prescription lecoverin so it can be available to children with autism.
so you can see
like how casually he's doing just doing this like
no no no no yeah like I'm really proud of
my wife for saying no
no to taking Tylenol for
a fever
and like they also look at this
and it's like the like oh they pushed
her to take a seat of metafine for a low grade
fever it's like that's
an extremely normal thing
for a doctor to say
to you like
take Tylenol for your fever
is like the least like
a medically invasive thing a doctor can possibly recommend? Like, what are we doing here?
Yeah, it's really basic medicine. And also, like, there's like, there's ways to profit off of
this, too, because if you can't take any pain medication when you're pregnant, but you can take,
I think they were recommending something like, I don't even know, it was like something full
like acid thingy. They were recommending that you take something, which obviously now can be
like profit off of and sold. This is a very capitalist, very grifter approach to medicine and
health care, because obviously always talk to your doctor and your OBGYN about taking any
medication when you're pregnant.
Like, talk to your doctor.
They're going to be the best source of information.
So the folic acid thing is a lecoverin, which is a medicine for anemia and counteracting
the effects of chemotherapy meds.
Yeah, I wouldn't.
And there's specifically like, oh, this will stop your children from having autism.
Okay.
No, it won't.
No.
No?
No, no. I mean, like, there are respected organizations speaking up right now, kind of like about like the facts, about the studies, about what's real. So there's like physicians for reproductive health are saying like there's decades of study of studies of Tylenol being safe to take during pregnancy. There's ACOG, which is a big professional membership organization of like tens of thousands of OBGYNs saying like, hey, Tylenol is safe during pregnancy. So there's been decades of studies.
on Tylenol, use, and pregnancy.
Some of the studies published in the journal of the American Medical Association that says
how safe it is.
So, like, it is, it is, it is safe.
It is absolutely 100% safe to take to treat pain and fever during pregnancy.
So, like, you know, in terms of, like, who can you look to, like, definitely look
to the OBGYNs right now and what they're saying and the physicians and these respected
organizations because they're going to tell you the truth.
But the problem is that this information is not reaching the public.
Yeah. And instead, yeah, they're just getting the president of the United States and all of these just weird conspiracy people that they've installed as the people running the U.S. medical establishment being like, oh, no, actually, this is really bad for you for reasons.
Yeah, it's all very vague. It's not really backed by, like, decades of medical research. And, like, also, too, there's so many people who have not taken any medication during pregnancy.
and they still have children who are autistic.
Yeah, it's just like, it's just absolutely ridiculous.
And like any way you look at the numbers, like in terms of, you know,
if you look at like the increasing race of Tylenol usage by pregnant people versus like autistic kids,
it's not like the Tylenol usage goes up way higher.
And then the autistic numbers don't change that much relative to it.
It's just like, it's all just like nonsense.
Well, so there is the eugenics of it all.
And there's also the aspect that we've been dealing with with the rampant abortion bans and the criminalization of pregnancy that we've been seeing, honestly, over the decades, it's about controlling bodies. And like this is also with trans health care too. Like it's about it's about eugenics, about kind of this necropolitics of choosing who lives and dies and being able to choose everything about a person's body, even how they're gestated, you know, like, oh, the parents shouldn't take this. And they should. And they should.
shouldn't do this. And then it opens up when it comes to control and surveillance and criminalization
of a pregnant person, that can go in so many different directions because, you know, they're telling
you not to take Tylenol. If they just randomly chose Tylenol, they can randomly choose
anything. They could talk about epidurals because there is like this idea that you should suffer
and that you shouldn't treat fever and that you should experience pain during pregnancy,
just like that one quote that you shared about his wife. So they're going to like start targeting
other things. And also, there's already so much criticism and control and judgment and stigma
over things like if you're working while you're pregnant, if you're drinking coffee while you're
pregnant, if you're eating certain things, there's already so much like policing over pregnant
bodies without even touching on abortion. But like they're also trying to control how you even
dispose of pregnancies, like if you're looking at the states that are requiring you to
call the police if you have a miscarriage. So it's like they want to control how you miscarry,
how you have an abortion. Worth noting too, because this is absolutely connected to abortion
and abortion pills, if the government is coming out and saying that Tylenol is causes autism and
it's not safe to take while you're pregnant or to use a treat of fever in young children,
then they can also say things like the abortion pill is not safe because they've been trying
to get the FDA to take away the approval of Mithopristone saying,
that it's dangerous. And, you know, if they're going to say that Tylenol is dangerous and causes
autism, then it's like it's going to be so easy for them to say that the abortion pill is
deadly as well. And they've already been doing this with vaccines in terms of like, like they've
been restricting access to vaccines to people without preexisting conditions, which admittedly is
a lot of people. Like the list of preexisting conditions is really long and you should just try to
get them anyways. But like, yeah, like this isn't a hypothetical. They are already doing this
with vaccines, a thing that we do all need in order to not get horribly sick and die from
plagues, a thing which there are a betty of right now? Yeah, and I think that this definitely
goes to show how topics like abortion and early pregnancy loss and miscarriage and abortions
later in pregnancy, like the way they've been talking about this has spread to all aspects of pregnancy
and it's spreading to other areas too. So when we haven't addressed the bans and the stigma
and the criminalization, it's been spreading.
It's spread to vaccines.
It's spreading to trans health care.
It's just, it's just, I feel like I've been watching this black hole just grow and grow and grow over the years and just take away our access to these really basic medical things.
And yeah, like I just see like we let it happen with abortion.
And then now all of a sudden now we can't take Tylenol during pregnancy because it causes autism.
Yep.
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The devil walks in Amherstown.
My name is Ed.
Everyone say, hello, Ed.
Hello, Ed.
I'm from a very rural background myself.
My dad is a farmer.
And my mom is a cousin.
So, like, it's not...
What do you get when a true crime producer
walks into a comedy club?
I know it sounds like the start of a bad joke,
but that really was my reality nine years ago.
I just normally do straight stand-up,
but this is a bit different.
On stage stood a comedian with a story that no one expected to hear.
Well, 22nd of July 2015, a 23-year-old man had killed his family.
And then he came to my house.
So what do you get when a true crime producer walks into a comedy club?
A new podcast called Wisecrack, where stand-up comedy and murder takes center stage.
now. Listen to Wisecrack on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
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dollars worth of heroin into New York from Asia.
We had 30 agents ready to go with shotguns and rifles and you name it.
But what they find is not what they expected.
Basically, your stay-at-home moms were picking up these large amounts of heroin.
They go, is this your daughter? I said yes.
They go, oh, you may not see her for like 25 years.
Caught between a federal investigation and the violent gang who recruited them,
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There's so much to say about the eugenics and autism aspect of this.
So much to say, more than like we can say right now.
Don't worry, there will be another episode of this show about that with some doctors on next.
week probably. Just like focusing right now on like pregnancy and in policing pregnant bodies
and and Tylenol and pain management and what's real the fact that Tylenol is
safe to take while pregnant and doesn't cause autism. It's really dwelling on that but like
there is a lot to say. There's a lot to say about the implications of this where like where this
came from in our society and where it's going and it's all really horrifying. Yeah. It's it's
It's exceptionally bleak, but I do think, and this is, I think, a theme we're going to be returning to a lot in the coming days and weeks.
But, like, the only silver lining for this is that this shit is not popular.
It's just not.
People hate it.
People hate the administration.
They have been hating the administration.
Every day it goes by, they hate it more.
You know, and this is part of the control strategy, right?
part of the reason why they're making these incredibly draconian moves into, like, authoritarian moves
into the domestic sphere is because it's a way of suppressing dissents. And they have to do that.
They have to suppress dissents and they have to take things from us. And they have to continue
to try to just beat everyone into submission because they can't do it through actual persuasion.
What they have is the violence of the state. And they're going to try to keep doing that.
But the violence of the state only functions insofar as people allow it to function.
you know, and this has always been sort of the secret of the United States,
which is that like a bunch of the things that they're doing
or they're attacked as crackdowns that they're attempting to do
are effectively unenforceable
because people simply refuse to cooperate with them.
And, you know, this is a field, well, I mean, I don't know,
until they just straight up ban Tylenol,
this is a thing where I guess we're mostly just trying to spread information.
But like, the things that they do can be opposed
and when people oppose them
en masse they lose
and I don't know
I want to give people
a little tiny bit of hope
You want to be positive?
Yeah.
So the deterioration
of public health
in the United States
is absolutely state violence.
Yeah.
Focusing on Tylenol
and stigmatizing autism
and people with autism
is like
distracting from so many things
that are actual
public health emergencies.
So when they're talking about
they're talking about Tylenol and autism. There are so much more severe things going on in the
United States right now when it comes to both the health of pregnant people and infants. So there's
the black maternal mortality crisis, which is so severe in so many states that is just constantly,
like abortion bans have made that even worse. There's terrible infant mortality rates rising
in states. So for example, Mississippi declared infant deaths.
emergency because they halted that CDC information data collection program. So Mississippi declared
a public health emergency from rising infant mortality. And there's also, I mean, I believe that the
abortion bans are a medical crisis as well. And there's also huge OBGYN deserts in this country.
Like we're seeing like the loss of OBGYN health providers where people can't access a OBGYN for
for miles and miles and miles
and there's just entirely
a lack of providers. These are all
very, very serious
public health emergencies
and yet they're talking about autism.
Yeah. And also, as not as they're talking about
is they're making all of these crises worse.
Yeah. Specifically, the OPGYN crisis. It's like, yeah,
I don't know. They've been kicking a bunch of people
off of their access to
of their access to government insurance. And like, what is that to?
Oh, wait, hold on. It just
absolutely annihilates the income
and revenue base of a bunch of hospitals that already weren't making much money in rural areas.
And so more of them closed because they lose their revenue sources.
And suddenly all of these crises just continue to get worse.
Yeah.
So we have like this stigmatization of autism, parents of autistic children, trans people, trans children.
When like they're focusing on this and they're vilifying and dogpiling and stigmatizing and
all of these things, these groups,
while there is this snowballing of crises.
The damage already, just from Roe v. Wade being overturned in 2022,
like it's like been three years.
And there's just been this like cascading, just ever increasing public health disasters from it.
And yet we're stigmatizing vulnerable people.
Yeah, in the ways that we've been talking about, right?
Their ideology is about inflicting suffering on vulnerable people because they think that
good and that's a thing that's you know I mean just obviously incompatible with public health
as as a concept which is you know part of why they're sort of dismantling it part of it is that
these people are all like selling their own weird anti-vaccine grift stuff that they've been
selling for years and years and years and years and years and all of this has just sort of come
together into just this sort of abyss where everything that was the public health infrastructure
in this country, which was insufficient to begin with, has just been disappearing more and more
into.
Yeah.
The erosion of our public health, you know, this isn't like new, this decades of, you know,
this coming into being where we are right now.
But it's been really horrible to watch as a health care worker, as somebody who cares about
just like everyone being able to get like.
evidence-based care, have access to medical providers, and then also the ability to do whatever
kind of health care they need to be able to do on their own as well, to just have this solid
medical information. And then also, like, there's the public education of it all, too.
Because already, like, there's this attack on public education, which autistic children need
a lot of support in order to thrive. And schools are, you know, they could be equipped to do that
where I've seen wonderful programs
and wonderful education services
that really set people up for success.
And this goes for like everyone, obviously.
Like any child is going to benefit from this.
But it just makes everything so much worse.
Like parents and families
and just autistic people
just don't get enough support, period.
Just like trans people as well.
And then we're all just being thrown under the bus
for the capitalist class and the elites.
So they can continue to like, you know, hide...
their pedophilia rings and like the whole just the fact that they're all like what you said
earlier about RFK yeah these are all a bunch of child molesters telling us that we're not strong
or brave enough to endure pain that we can easily treat with the medical technology that we have
and I feel like I normally I feel like I used to not talk talk like this I used to not be like
child molesters in the government like I kind of feel like but I'm like this is literally where
we are right now somehow. So here I am, like, you know, talking about Tylenol being safe
for pregnant people, Tylenol not causing autism, and then talking about the fact that our
government is run run by a bunch of pedophiles. Not quite where I expected to be. If you had
talked to me like eight years ago, maybe. It's really something. It's, it's really wild to be
talking about this right now. And like, we knew this was coming too. Like I, I, there's been months of
whispers where it's like, oh yeah, they're going to say Tylenol causes autism. So like this,
I knew this was coming somehow. I don't even know how. It's just, I feel like it's all very
transparent and like there's leaks and there's whatever. But I, like, I knew this was coming for
months. And yet here we are. Here we are. Yeah. And I don't know. I think that's as good
of a place to end unless you have anything else you want to make sure you get in. I just want to say
again that it's safe to take Tylenol during pregnancy and it doesn't cause autism. Yeah, absolutely.
And tell everyone you know that and share good resources like ACOG, ACOG, Physicians for Reproductive Health, PRH, I believe is their initials acronym.
We will put links to stuff in the description of this.
Yeah.
And also ask your doctor about medication that you should take, whether you're pregnant or not.
You know, it's cool to ask your doctor stuff.
Like, just ask them questions.
Yeah, yeah.
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