It Could Happen Here - Bad Mayor Monday: The Eric Adams Indictment Special

Episode Date: October 7, 2024

Mia, Gare and James are joined by the Outspoken slate's Joey Patt to read the indictment of Eric Adams and discover how his cartoon bribery schemes fell apart. Sources: Indictment Next-in-Line for New York Mayor Got Contributions From Donor in Eric Adams IndictmentSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Welcome to It Could Happen Here, a podcast where we're bringing Shitty Mayor Monday back to celebrate an incredibly special occasion, which is the unbelievably funny federal indictment of one New York Mayor, Eric Adams. federal indictment of one New York mayor, Eric Adams. With me to talk about this is Garrison Davis, is James Stout, and we have a New York expert, our fellow trade unionist, Joey Pat, who works on What We Love and Afterlives. Joey, welcome to the show. Hey, thank you for having me. Excited to be here. I hope I can provide some insight to New York City and everything that's been happening lately. The Eric Adams news really is kind of the most positive piece of news that we've had the past month.

It's been a really bad month. It's keeping me going. I feel like I gotta say I found out the news of the indictment. I was at a gay bar near me at a queer pool event and everybody got the news at the same time and it was one of the funniest ways to learn

that Eric Adams had been indicted. Yeah, that was the most joy I've seen from a group of New Yorkers in a while. What a beauty. Yeah. Okay, so I want to open the floor up to Eric Adams' stories, but first I need to complain about the fact that...

So I have long... As a proud Chicagoan who has now fled Chicago for Portland, I have long made fun of New York for being a Tier 2 Chinese city that thinks that it's the greatest city in the world. And then I learned they didn't have trash cans, which pushed us at like, this is not even like a tier five. This is a level of trash collection that you see in like rural Hubei.

Like what the fuck? Or Britain, the United Kingdom where we got rid of trash cans too. Oh my God. That's not true though. Cause luckily Eric Adams didn't make the trash can. What is going on the first american city to ever think of this idea um for context i am also in a unique position here because i'm from chicago and um yeah oftentimes get my friends and family that still live in chicago uh confused as to why i live out here i do love

new york i i it is a great city to live in but these are the kind of moments we have where i'm like oh yeah yeah yeah i can't i i can't i don't know why i honestly think about this eric adams stuff too is like the stuff he's so there's to be a second federal indictment with more people in it. But the first one, it's kind of brush league shit by Chicago standards. Like, like if you compare this to like, like Rob Blagojevich trying to sell off,

uh, like trying to sell Obama's Senate seat. It's like, okay. Yeah. I've been saying New York wants to be Chicago. They're starting a second city Here too Oh my god

There have been ads in the subway And every time it takes away a part of my soul Like I'm like you cannot claim that That is us It just means there's going to be even more Insufferable people This sucks A second second city has hit the towers

Another great Eric Adams moment City has hit the towers. Another great Eric Adams moment. Eric Adams hit the towers? No, but he had this great interview where he was asked to summarize what makes New York great in one word. And he gave the answer, New York, which is two words. And then explained it's because it's the only city where you can wake up and have 9-11 happen and also open up a small business. One of the funniest Eric Adams moments I've ever seen until he was indicted, which is now the new funniest Eric Adams moment,

which we should probably get to because this is not a short indictment. Wait, are we doing our Eric Adams favorite moments yet? Because I have a favorite. We got to run that first. I've already done mine. Yeah. Do you want to hit us with yours, Joey?

Mine's definitely the ongoing saga of just whether or not he's a vegan and the fact that he repeatedly claims he's a vegan and thinks that veganism. I didn't know this. He's a vegan. He talks a lot about how he's a vegan and all the health benefits and how it's he has a lot of weird like beliefs about health and stuff that have come out over his you know mayoral run uh but apparently he's not actually a vegan because he's been seen like eating chicken on camera and like that weird video of his apartment when he was running that

was the brooklyn apartment that he may or may not live in. Like there was like some sort of meat product in the fridge or something. There's been a whole thing about how like he may be, and he's like admitted that he's like eating meat sometimes. Like he's like, Oh, well, you know,

I'll just have like a little nibble. Like it's, it's, it doesn't count. Chicken isn't vegan. What do you mean? He identifies as a vegan. He's like some kind of like uh like 16th century catholic you know where they have all these weird exceptions for fish

right right he just has to repent and then whatever to confess and and then he's he's getting he gets his vegan card back that's a good one that's a good one yeah joey's joey's kind of mentioned mine but the fact that he definitely is from New Jersey, which I think is what allowed him to use a trash can, he definitely does not live in New York. There's no way. My favorite also relates to him not living in New York,

which is when Curbed staked out his New York apartment, and he came back once, parked illegally, and then caused a traffic jam by parking illegally so bad that he couldn't pull out of the parking he wasn't in the parking space he was in someone's driveway so then he proceeded to drive along the sidewalk and they like filmed him doing this and he confessed to doing it and was like it was a

terrible mistake just an incredible sequence of events i mean maybe that is like a new york mayor who can't drive like i guess that makes sense like yet refuses to use mass transit oh god that's true that's true he does hate public transportation god you can just send more cops in the subway that'll fix it all right oh national god let's uh yeah let's let's get into this let's get started okay so the things he's being indicted for are effectively okay so he took a bunch of different bribes in different ways so he took i guess there's two broad categories of bribes that he took which is the bribes that are campaign donations that he funneled through straw donors which is the thing wherees that are campaign donations that he funneled through straw donors, which is the thing where you like,

there's like limits on how much money you could donate to someone, right? So what you do is you find like 10 people and you give them all $2,000 so they can still donate it, even though it's the money's from you. This is unbelievably illegal. And the second type is him just accepting unbelievable amounts of like gifts and stuff

from a Turkish airliner.iner now the interesting thing about this is that you would expect this is a thing that started when he was a mayor but like no he was so he was he was the borough president of brooklyn for a bunch of years before he became mayor and this is like as bro president is when he like really started doing all of this random, weird corruption stuff. He's been doing this for almost 10 years. Yeah. I kind of love this too

because the Brooklyn borough president, it's kind of a fake job. You don't really do anything, and I love the fact that he still managed to find ways to be corrupt in his fake job that he had. It's stunning, because I'm going to start reading from the indictment a bit. By smuggling their contributions to Adams through U.S.-based straw donors,

Adams' overseas contributors defeated federal laws that served to prevent foreign influence on U.S. elections. Wealthy individuals evaded laws designed to limit their power over elected officials by restricting the amount of money one person could donate to a candidate and businesses circumvented new york city's ban on corporate contributions by funneling their donations to multiple employees frustrating a law that seeks to reduce corporate power in politics adams increases fundraising by accepting these concealed illegal donations at the cost of giving his secret patients undue influence over him that the law tries to prevent so this this is really funny because there's three different illegal things that he's done. Like through these fraud owners.

So there's three kinds of campaign contributions you can't do. It's like corporations. One person. There's like limits on how much an individual person can donate. And you can't get donations from people not from the U.S. you can't get donations from people not from the US. And he managed to both individually and in the

same scheme violate every single one of these laws. It's genuinely incredible. I guess I would like to learn more at some point, and I'm sure we'll get into it, is how explicit this whole Turkish funding really is. Extremely.

They're texting each other about it. I'm sure we'll get to this. It's when they they're like hey eric you're not going to say anything about the armenian genocide are you that totally didn't happen bro don't mention the genocide oh yeah we'll we'll get to that so eric adams the defendant also sought and received other improper benefits from some of the same co-conspirators who funded strong donations to his campaign in particular a senior a senior official in the Turkish diplomatic establishment, henceforth Turkish official, who facilitated many Charlton Nations to Adams, also arranged for Adams and his companions to receive free or discounted travel on Turkey's national airline, quote, the Turkish airline, which is owned in significant part by the Turkish government, to destinations

including France, China, Sri Lanka, India, Hungary, and Turkey itself. The Turkish officials and other Turkish nationals further arranged for Adams and his companions to receive, among other things, free rooms at opulent hotels, free meals at high-end restaurants, and free, luxurious entertainment while in Turkey.

So, this is all very, very explicit. He's got wanderlust, you know? He was supposed to be, like, a travel blogger's got wanderlust, you know? He was supposed to be like a travel vlogger, like girly, like doing TikToks. And, you know, unfortunately, he had to become mayor. So, yeah. Born to vlog, forced to mayor. Starting to do the job he wants to.

Yeah, it's very tragic. Okay, so actually, the first thing, Turkish influence thing that he did i actually this is weirdly the one part of this i don't have a problem with one of the big things he was trying to get was there's a giant like new turkish consulate building that they opened kind of recently and a big part of this was getting permission to open the turkish consulate without a fire inspection so that erdogan could visit for like the opening of the consulate and look okay we already can't fly to turkeydogan can visit for the opening of the consulate. And, look, okay,

we already can't fly to Turkey because of our public support for the Kurdish Free Movement, so I'm just gonna say this. I am entirely okay with this. I don't give a shit if they don't do fire inspections. I'm okay with Erdogan being in a non-fire-safe building, yeah.

Yeah, like, fuck him. If the guy who burned 150 people alive in Cincinnati wants to fucking burn to death in his own consulate, then let him. Like, I genuinely

don't give a shit about this. He did threaten the job of, like, the New York Fire Department's fire inspector, which kind of sucks, but, like, if everyone wants to burn to death

in this death trap, let him do that. This is one of the text conversations that then was, was, uh, I don't know if leaked is the right word, but yeah, like,

cause it was, it was, they were like, there was something they said to you where they were like, we've done a lot for you. Now it's time for you to do something for the Republic of Turkey. Yeah. Yeah.

We'll get, we'll get to that. This is, yeah. It's clown shit. I was like, all right. After Eric Adams, a defendant, first traveled to Turkey in 2015, the Turkish official introduced Adams to Turkish Airlines general manager in New York City area.

In 2016 and twice in 2017, again, this is all before he was mayor, Adams solicited and accepted free and heavily discounted luxury air travel from Turkish Airlines as part of Turkish officials' efforts to gain influence over Adams on three separate trips. Basically, like, he's getting first-class tickets

from all of these people. It's so much money, worth of stuff. These tickets are like thousands of dollars. The exact total of, like, all of the gifts he took from Turkish Airlines

is like a hundred and... It's like a hundred and thirty thousand-something dollars. Jesus Christ. Yeah. Airlines. It's like $130,000 something dollars. Jesus Christ. Yeah. Damn. Anytime I read a paragraph of this, just assume that in between whatever paragraph I'm reading and the stuff I didn't

read before it, he's taken another $10,000 of free first class rides to Turkish Airlines. It is a blessing in disguise, I will say, that I will never see Eric Adams on a flight because I cannot fly with Turkish Airlines. It is a blessing in disguise, I will say, that I will never see Eric Adams on a flight because I cannot fly with Turkish Airlines. That's true. There's a very funny line about this.

Because the Turkish airline provided free travel benefits worth tens of thousands of dollars to Eric Adams, the defendants, he flew the Turkish airline even when doing so was otherwise inconvenient. Oh yeah, this is fucking great. For example, for example, during the July and August 2017 trip.

Adam's partner was surprised to learn that Adams was in Turkey when she had understood him to be flying from New York to France. Adams responded in a text message quote, transferring here. You know, first stop is always in Istanbul spelled very wrong and lowercase i.

So true! So true, brother! When Adam's partner later inquired about planning a trip to Easter Island, Chile, Adam repeatedly asked her whether Turkish Airlines could be used for their flights, requesting her to call

Turkish Airlines to confirm they did not have routes between New York and Chile. Why would Turkish airlines have a flight from New York to Chile? Oh my god. It's part of the greater Ottoman Empire. I would take bribes from Air Canada,

but I'm also not running for mayor. Well, you could run for borough president. That's true. That's true. I could become elected the mayor of South Fulton. That is very doable. Similarly, lots of the mayors of South Fulton have had very odd kind of

controversies. So what I'm saying is South Fulton is basically Georgia's version of New York. New York is the South Fulton of America. Have you guys seen a video clip of him? Every city he goes to, he says, like, New York is this city of America. It's crazy.

It's crazy. Istanbul of America. It really is. Apparently. So this is all very funny, but this is all happening. All of the tens of thousands of dollars at this point of money that he's taking from Turkey's all happening in a period where Turkey is butchering Kurds across the Middle East. Like his first trip there, and this is all again well before his mayor, while he's like Brooklyn borough president,

is four months before the firebombing of that city that I talked about, where again, they burned 150 civilians alive in a fucking building. If I'm remembering correctly, I'm pretty sure they burned the city council alive. That's just the stuff in Turkey. And like, we have covered extensively on this show, Turkey's like drone warfare program, there's the whole thing of, it has been long suspected that the Turkish government was

aiding ISIS during the period because they were like, basically using them as a proxy to fight like Kurdish freedom movement forces in Syria. I think you could definitely say that like former isis fighters are now fighting for the turkish against the kurds in iraqi kurdistan yeah i've said that before anyway the kurds will tell you that former isis fighters i know um david graber the anthropologist who spent actually who who smuggled a bunch of drone

parts to uh to rojava had a story about how he was talking to people like, yeah, they would pick up ISIS fighters and they would look through their possessions and every single one of them has Turkish passports. They all have Turkish identity. It's like, hmm, I wonder where these people came from. Even like, I'll just say, I have spoken to some people who were part of the fight against ISIS who discovered blank Turkish passports uh when taking like isis buildings and isis strongholds yeah so there's there's i mean just this is a period of even by the standards of turkey like unbelievable turkish violence this

is their their invasion of syria and you know this is this is the period in which eric adams decides that he's going to become a nation to the Turkish state. And so obviously, like he lies about this to the government because, again, you're not allowed to do this. There's a bunch of very funny schemes that he does. As Brooklyn Borough President, Adams employed a scheduler, henceforth known as the Adam scheduler, who appointed it, who managed appointments, meetings and other official events. who appointed it who managed his appointments meetings and other official events despite her status as a new york city employee the adams scheduler was used by adams to perform personal tasks for him such as collecting rent at a brooklyn property he owned adams also assigned the scheduler to pay various expenses for him after which adams would reimburse the scheduler in cash in 2017 adams sent a series of emails to the scheduler, directing the scheduler to pay for the free 2017 flights that he and his companions had already taken on the Turkish airline.

But the emails provided inconsistent explanations. In some, Adams suggested that the Adams scheduler should pay using Adams' credit card. While in others, Adams claimed to have left cash in an envelope for the Adam scheduler to send to the Turkish Airlines. That's how you pay. That's how I pay for all my flights. Cash in an envelope. This is how he's trying to cover up for the fact that he's not paying for these flights. He'll pay like $600 for a $30 ticket.

But he's like sending envelopes to his scheduler to hand to the Turkish Airlines. A man who was a cop doing an absolutely terrible job of covering his own ass. You know who else is taking bribes from the Turkish government? No. No. We cannot. It's not our products and services. It's someone else's products and services.

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send it to them. So the funny part about this, right, so he's supposed to have this like cash dead drop to pay for the airline tickets, but then he just like never does it because the tickets are free. So he just like stops covering his tracks. Yeah, amazing. And doesn't use signal. Yeah, it's really

sounding... Okay, so what is the Turkish government getting from this? In return for travel benefits, the Turkish official provided a range. In about 2015 or 2016, Eric Adams, the defendant, granted a political request from the Turkish official. Prior to Adams' 2015

travel to Turkey, which Adams knew and disclosed to one of the monitoring agencies, have been funded by, among other entities, the Turkish consulate, the Turkish airline, and three separate municipalities in Turkey. Adams maintained a relationship with a Turkish community center in Brooklyn. In or about 2016, the Turkish official told Adams that the community center was affiliated with a Turkish movement that was hostile to Turkey's government, and that if Adams wished to continue receiving support from the Turkishkish government adams could no longer associate with the community center

adams acquiesced god i wonder who it was see okay so i looked into this no one that i've seen doing reporting on this seems to know which center this was but but this has to be a gulenist thing yeah so uh to people who didn't spend all of their childhood mired in the intricacy of turkish politics so erdogan's the the current ruler of turkey gulen was like one of his old old allies but they had this giant falling out and a huge part of what erdogan was doing in the 2010s was like trying to purge all of the gulenists from everywhere like there was this whole scheme running i think through michael flynn where turkey was trying to get trump to like the gulans like in like a compound in i think virginia or something and turkey was trying to get trump to like raid the compound and send him to turkey which didn't happen yeah that lines up with the

coup they 2016 coup right yeah yeah so you know it's always been unclear to me exactly how much influence these people have but the one thing i will say is that so i had a classmate in college who was in turkey for a long time and their line about it was like yeah i don't know like how much of this sort of ghoulish deep state shit is true but also there were like ghoulish people who you could go to who had like all the answers to like state exams. So if you were like willing to get in bed with them, they would just give you all the answers. So like, you know, they weren't not a part of this. And I'm pretty sure what happened here was that Adams was like cutting off all contact with these people because this this is part of the Gulenist split.

I'm not 100% sure because there are multiple community centers in Brooklyn, like Turkish community centers in Brooklyn. But I'm about 80% sure that's what happens so that's like one of the first direct influence things okay so he's doing the influence paddling stuff right he's doing his partially through the airlines and then also he's just taking a bunch of illegal fundraising money quote on july 22nd 2018 the same day as this fundraising event, the Adams staffer and the promoter discussed by text message a possible trip by Adams to Turkey. The promoter stated, in part, Fundraising in Turkey is not legal, but I think I can raise

money for your campaign off the record. The Adams staffer inquired, How will Adams declare that money? The promoter responded, He won't declare it, or we'll make the donation to an American citizen in the U.S., a Turk. I'll give cash to him in Turkey. We'll send it.

I'll send it to an American. He will make the donation to you. The Adam Stafford replied, I think he won't get involved in such games. They might cause a stink later on, but I'll ask anyways. The Adam Stafford then asked, how much do you think would come from you? The promoter responded, max 100K. The Adam Stafford wrote 100K. The Adam staffer wrote, 100K? Do you have a chance to transfer that here?

We can't do it while Eric is in Turkey. To which the promoter replied, let's think. After the conversation, the Adam staffer asked Adam whether the Adam staffer should pursue the unlawful foreign contributions offered by the promoter. And contrary to the staffer's expectations, Adam directed the staffer to pursue the promoter's contrary to the staffers expectations adams directed the staffer to pursue the promoter's illegal scheme that's crazy i feel like you should know who you're

working for well enough to be like hey this guy is offering a completely illegal fundraising scheme that we know is illegal and i don't think my boss will take it and the boss turns around to me he's like yeah fuck it raise money it might cause a big stink later on. You don't say. Yeah. Yeah. That's wild. To be fair.

It did. Yeah. It's so explicit. And I, I, I do want to get to some of the other text messages sooner than later, because it really just shows how like aware everyone involved is of over like what's going on.

Yeah. They're doing crimes. It's literally just, Hey, what should I do with the crime money? The illegal crime money the illegal crime money by the way have we mentioned this is illegal so partially this is being run through turkish airlines partially this is being run through a turkish university and partially this

is being run through just a bunch of businessmen some of whom are turkish some of whom aren't so here's like the next thing i was going to read although adams knew that businessman one was a turkish national who could not lawfully contribute to us elections. Adams directed the staffer to obtain the illegal contributions offered by businessman one. Following up on this directive, Adams wrote to the staffer that business and one quote is ready to help. I don't want his help to be wasted. So they are just like unbelievably directly being like,

yeah, we know this guy can't do this, but we're just going to tell him to send this money anyways. Yeah, it's insane how slapstick they are about this. Yeah, and like, you know, they're kind of trying to cover the tracks. I think this part of it is one of the things that I think was one of the things that

kind of went viral over this. So Adams is trying to arrange another $50,000 contribution from a third Turkish businessman. and in the middle of this he's saying to his staffer quote to be on the safe side please delete capital P capital D please delete all messages you send me Adams responded always do now we know for a fact that a bunch of these messages were simply not deleted because the fbi

considering that you just read them yeah i do also think it was worth noting that some of like these efforts uh certainly started to ramp up around his mayoral campaign because some of these turkish officials thought that if adams becomes a more like prominent member in politics he ever like runs for president if they can gain influence over him from like pretty early on, that would be really useful for the Turkish government. That is some of like the reasoning behind this like decades long campaign. Yeah. Like puppet Eric Adams.

Maybe the Turkish government had seen Nate Silver's now infamous tweet. I will be the next. Yeah. I mean, it's all Nate Silver's fault. Many such cases. It's Nate Silver who got them to chase us around with drones last

October. He keeps getting more businessmen to donate tens of thousands of dollars. Oh yeah, it's so funny. Repeatedly, he just keeps getting more and more and more. Yeah, and the funniest part is that by guy number four he's doing this with, he's telling

the guy how to do fraud donations, where he's like, yeah, no, you can't donate $10,000, but give $2,000 to each of your employees, and they'll do it. Yeah, he's doing instructions for each of these guys, and it's like, at a certain point, some of the early airline stuff is, yes, illegal and

sketchy, know it's just getting some nice plane tickets by like 2021 he's just teaching them how to do like super illegal like campaign fraud yeah you've like committed so much that you're just like in too deep like you can't like

what's there to do yeah you know who else is in too deep it's the products and services who control this podcast. It's the whole podcast. Support that one. Oh, God. Wow. Whoa.

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construction guy, where he takes a bunch of money that shows up at this New York Uzbek pride event to give a speech because he took money from this like construction guy did he say new york is the uzbekistan of america honestly he probably has said that that's like yeah he's probably said kazakhstan by accident because he always says the wrong country whenever he's giving a speech like that my favorite moment was the video of him speaking to like the Indian group

that he kept saying Pakistan. Oh, God. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, dear. Yeah. I bet that went down

like a chocolate tea pot. He did it like twice, too. They corrected him and then he kept doing it. They were like yelling over him and he said, yeah. Stoned God.

So there's another kind of funny one where he's getting a bunch of money from this university and he actually returns the money because his campaign is like his mayoral campaign is over but he's still gonna go to prison for it because he lied to the government where he got the money even though he gave it away okay so i want to start reading some of these texts so we can get into like how explicit the stuff is. On July 22nd, 2021, Adams, the staffer,

requested that the airline manager book flights to Istanbul for Adams. In order to conceal the favorable treatment, the Adams staffer requested that the airline manager charge Adams what would appear to be a real price. Adams staffer, how much does he owe? Please, let them make a call

and I will make the payments. Airline manager, it is very expensive because it is last minute. I let them make a call and I will make the payments. Airline manager. It is very expensive because it is last minute. I am working on a discount. Adam Stafford. Okay, thank you. Airline manager. I am going to charge $50.

Adam Stafford. No. Airline manager. That wouldn't work, wouldn't it? Adam Stafford. No, dear. $50? What?

Quote a proper price. How much should I charge? A smiley face emoji. Adam Stafford. His every step is being watched right now. $1,000 or so. Let it be somewhat real. We don't want them to say that he is flying for free. At the moment, the media's

attention is on Eric. Amazing stuff. The smiley face of the text is really throwing me off. It's so good. So he paid about $1,100 for these round-trip tickets, and he was upgraded

to business class. Lucky him. In actuality, these tickets would again be like $15,000. This is the same type of stuff he was doing eight years ago. Except this time he actually is paying some money, whereas last time he did not actually fill up those envelopes with cash yeah but still he's about he's about 14 000 short he also has this great one where like the staffers like do you have recommendations on where you can go to turkey the airline manager four season staffer it's too

expensive airline manager why does he care He's not going to pay. His name will not be on anything either. Adam Stafford. Super. Super. It's so funny. It's all so good. Super illegal. I want to meet the person who's sending these texts. Yeah. So bad. It's so funny. Why is this

like the cadence with which they're speaking in these texts is just insane. It's incredible stuff. There's some great ones. I'm going to read this one. On the day the Adams fundraiser was scheduled to depart Istanbul, Adams created a message thread between himself, the Adams fundraiser, and the airline manager. Quote, he will try to help with the issue with the form.

He can see about a hotel or business class lounge. The manager then arranged for the Adams fundraiser, who was otherwise flying on an economy ticket to have access to not only the turkish airlines business lounge but also an exclusive private suite inside the lounge complete with a bed and free food the turkish airline manager explained this is our suite for vips and we want you to feel yourself two words yourself sick vip smiley face emoji. Fill yourself VIP. That's what we all want. At another point in the exchange, Adams wrote, Thanks a million, airline manager.

My brother. To which the airline manager responded, Anytime, brother. Oh, no. Oh, dear. I feel physically unwell. They just keep doing this. On the day he won the election,

like, the day after, the airline manager sent the following text message. Brother, congratulations. Adams responded, cannot thank you enough. So true. So true. That is good, although it's not as good as, kind of, the next

thing, when in December of 21 he was putting together his like mayoral like team for like policy advisors and his transition team and he did not have like people from Turkey on this list so this air manager

said didn't it's not quite blackmail but it is certainly like bribery saying like hey maybe you should put me on your senior advisory team. And if you don't, then you're not going to get free tickets anymore. Yeah, I want to read the exact line because it's so funny. The staffer sends the airline manager a list, and the airline manager responds,

it would suit me well to be lead or senior advisor. Two days later, the airline manager sent a message reiterating, lead please, PLZ please. Smiley face emoji. Otherwise, seat 52 is empty on the way back. So I can reserve seat. Oh, God. It's so explicit.

Oh, my God. Lead please. If you don't make me a lead advisor, we're not going to give you free airplane tickets anymore. Oh, my God. It's so funny. Winky face. And then I believe he did add someone onto his team.

Yep, yep. Yeah, he was added to the infrastructure, climate, and sustainability committee transition team jesus christ which the whole sustainability commission is just like a slush there's another thing later where like he's like a secret meeting of like these turkish donors and he calls it like a sustainability transition meeting so no one will know that he's having this like meeting you should read what the airline manager wrote after after he was added to the climate and sustainability and infrastructure committee yeah so on december 2021 the senior

turkish government official sent the airline manager a series of texts noting the airline manager's membership on adam's infrastructure climate sustainability committee and sending applause emojis oh no the no. The airline manager responded that his membership on the transition committee was in service of Turkey. Quote, Thank you, brother. We are doing our best to serve our country adequately.

Your support gives us strength here. Thank you. You were always there for us and we're trying to be loyal. It's amazing. Oh. Wait. We're trying to be worthy?

Yeah. We're trying to be worthy. Yeah, we're trying to be worthy. Yeah. That is so... Sorry, I'm trying to be worthy of you're trying to be worthy yeah we're trying to be worthy yeah that is so sorry i'm trying to be worthy of you thank you so much for being there please it's so good i just like want to be worthy of you eric adam so by this point i totaled the turkish airline bribes specifically the all the benefits total 123 000 which is also just a small fraction of the total amount of money he received.

To be fair, that's probably the face prices of business class tickets and lounge access, which no one actually pays for. Yeah, yeah. Beyond the actual airline stuff, because of the campaign match policy deals, he

received in the end $ like 10 million dollars right from from like all of this whole ordeal yeah so so so the the match funding thing basically is like there's public matching funds for like private donations for for mayoral candidates there's like some things you have to go through but in order to get that money right you have to abide by campaign finance law and all of the so all of these like straw donor bribe donations that he's getting are being are also i think it's like eight to one or something like matching funds are being matched by the by the government so you get like 10 million dollars of matching funds he's not only like doing like campaign fraud by getting this like foreign influence amount of money but he's also

just like stealing from from everyone else too by having all of these illegal contributions uh matched yeah so in the end i think he's like he's like charged with like like basically 10 million dollars yeah of like fraud the other thing is like this is this is how he won the election like he won the election by spending an unbelievable amount of money and like that money was like this like stuff that he defrauded the government for and it's ironic that like the campaign funding matching is designed to like amplify the donations made by regular new yorkers and not make it all like a super PAC game yeah but eric adams thought he'd made an end run around that and like i i did not realize just because i have been keeping up with like eric adams news previous to this i did not realize like how often his house was getting raided by the fbi oh there were so many there's been so many like this is all just one angle on the like 35 because

there's there's so much other corruption he was doing yeah this is just the stuff they got specifically around him for but like basically everyone in the circle around him has is like also going to prison like to the point where remember i was talking about that uzbek construction guy that he donated money to yeah that guy also paid off like the guy who's going to become mayor when adams gets arrested so like the deputy mayor like also took money from that guy amazing yeah so one of the worst parts of this on april 21st 2022 the turkish official messaged the adam staffer noting that our median genocide remembrance day was approaching and repeatedly asking the adam staffer for assurances that adams would not make any statements about the armenian genocide jesus christ the adam staffer confirmed that adams did not make a statement about the about

the armenian genocide adams did not make such a statement. New York, not the Yerevan of America. Yeah. So he just straight up took money from the Turkish government to do genocide denial for them. So that's great. That's incredible stuff. To be fair, that is a mainstay of current American politics.

Oh, yeah, yeah. And it's the best funded of all genocide denials. Yes, yeah. And it's the best funded of all genocide denials. Yes, yes. Well, this Eric Adams guy doesn't seem like, doesn't seem too good. It is just fascinating to me that out of all the cities,

New York is just one city that you cannot have a normal mayor. Just like every single mayor is weird and fucked up in like a different way. Like, it's just impossible. Yeah, there was like

an onion headline one time that was like the mayor de blasio like well well well it's it's not so easy to have a not fucked up mayor or something yeah i think i think the exact line was well well well not so easy to find a mayor who doesn't suck shit now exactly the eric adam was one hits so much harder because he's like the law and order mayor like he's like you know like like former cop blah blah he's he's he's the one making new york worse through all of like the fucked up police stuff uh-huh meanwhile he's just been doing these like major crimes and having his house raided by the fbi like like every other month yeah also having

like his friend's house is raided by the FBI. Was it like a police chief or a police commissioner who was just raided? Yeah. And then the interim police commissioner who they put in after the first one.

It's wild stuff. Yeah. We got to talk about his phone password before we finish. Yeah, yeah. So the part I want to close on is like before he goes under

like all of his staffers are getting visited by the FBI. And A, you can tell they're all cops and are dumb as shit because they all they all agreed to talk to the fbi and like lied to them so funny and then we're trying to like coordinate destroying the messages which the fbi got all the data from um on october 6th 2023 fbi agents executed a search warrant for the electronic devices used by Eric Adams, the defendant.

Although Adams was carrying several electronic devices, including two cell phones, he was not carrying his personal cell phone, which is a device he used to communicate about the conduct described in this indictment. When Adams produced his personal cell phone the next day in response to a subpoena, it was locked. Such that the device required a password to open. Adams claimed that after he learned the investigation into his contact, he learned about the investigation, he changed the password

the day before and increased the complexity of his password from four to six digits. Adams had done this, he claimed, to prevent members of his staff from inadvertently or intentionally deleting the contents of his phone. According to Adams, he wished to preserve

the contents of his phone due to adams he wished to preserve the context of his phone due to the investigation but adams further claimed he'd forgotten the password he just set and was unable to provide the fbi with a password that could unlock the phone if they tried his birthday it's the funniest argument yeah they like no no i changed i changed the password so that the information was safe and wouldn't be deleted also i forgot the password okay so like presumably this is encrypted right but like i cannot like what the fuck is the fbi doing that they can't just break into this phone like i mean some phones are hard to break into like it is it is true yeah they've their feds have struggled with iphones for a while yes but this is but this is eric. Yeah. It might be 0-0-0-0. They ought to give it

the whole college try, to be honest. They've got to have some fucking spook from the NSA that they can illegally send this phone over to. I'm sure they've tried Celebrite. I'm sure they've tried a whole bunch of stuff. It just doesn't always work. Yeah, I don't know. It makes me feel wildly

better about phone security. Oh, by the way, this is a message about this public safety announcement. If you use a face print or a fingerprint to lock your phone, the cops can just use your face or your fingerprint to unlock it, or they can get it with a warrant. But if it's, like, an actual number, like, they can't put a gun to your head and, say, open it, which is the way that this would normally sort of work. So, yeah, basic security thing so in all adams is being charged with simultaneously conspiracy

to commit wire fraud federal program bribery and to receive campaign contributions by foreign national there's a kind of wire fraud there's another count of solicitation of a contribution by foreign national there's subsequently the fourth count is the same as the third count it's it's solicitation of a contribution by foreign national and the fifth count is bribery so he's like probably going down going down he sounds pretty fucked i mean it has been interesting how much the federal government has been cracking down on foreign influence before this election both with like tenant media like a Russian foreign influence, stuff like this. There's been some Jimmy Dore

orbiters that I know have been getting looked into by the feds for Russian foreign influence. This is not a show where we regularly praise the actions of the federal government, but it's always funny to see my enemies having a hard time. I'm praying

for that Jackson Hinkle one, just one day day oh yeah because it's so it's so obvious it's so obvious that he's he's absolutely getting paid by some by some foreign government yeah i wonder which one this one is erdogan versus the fbi which i'm just like just chomping down popcorn and clapping like a seal watching the two most hated rivals fighting each other like yes yes destroy each other no matter what happens i'm okay with it yeah wow i uh i will repeat my position here at the end of the show that i am prepared to vote for joe biden on the condition that he immediately begins trading eric adams for abdullah ojalan who does not belong in jail unlike eric adams it's free Ocelan week this week.

And so, yeah, he shouldn't be in prison. Let him out. How do you feel about your mayor, Joey? You know, it sounds like he's working on some shit. He's got to figure out if he really wants to. You know, see, this is the thing, too, is it's like, do I want to be like, wow,

congrats to the FBI on this investigation? No. That being said, it is really funny to see this all go down. I think also just the amount of bullshit that he has done while he's in office, both, both legally and over the table and under the table.

It is kind of funny to see like this be the thing that, that takes him down. Yeah. Another one of my favorite tweets about all this was somebody was like, I'm sure Eric Adams all of a sudden is going to be really pro prison reform all of a sudden. God, I hope so. That would be crazy.

Prison abolitionist arc. I'm getting flashbacks. Prison abolitionist arc. I'm getting flashbacks to when, oh God, what's his name? No, the governor. Oh my God, former governor. Cuomo. He was having all of his shit come out

and the last thing he did in office was the legalized weed and it was such a last ditch. Like, fine. Here you guys go. He wants this. Are we going to get something like that? I guess he tried with the trash cans and people rejected that but uh it's been an experience i i hope for the sake of the city that uh you know he faces consequences for this and isn't never back in new york politics But I guess we'll see what happens. No, I'm not going to cheer on the FBI,

but I am pro-cop-on-cop violence. That's true. And that's all this is. That's all this is. So that's fine. I'm pro-irony. I'm pro, like, you're getting got by the same people, your bros.

I am interested in what the next uh new york mayoral election will look like we're bringing in laurie lightfoot let's go and the small possibility that depending how this next election goes we could have a trump versus clinton mayoral race in new york which i would i would love to watch. Maybe Hillary Clinton will finally make her film about the Syrian Democratic Forces. She's been promising to make for years. I want to close on a kind of slightly more serious struggles are connected note, because the thing about Eric Adams is that he was the guy who was brought in, black cop, like very specifically brought in. And his thing was basically to contain the 2020 uprising, right?

He was the guy whose thing was we're bringing in the counter-revolution. We're stomping all of this stuff out. Like all of the sort of like gains of anti-police stuff that you'd made, all of the sort of ideological gains have been made. We're going to wipe all that out. And I think it is really significant that the government who is funding him is a Turkish government. Because if you look at the last cycle, right? So Eric Adams is starting to do this in 2014, 2015. What's happening in Turkey in that time is that Turkey had been one of the big sites of huge uprisings in 2013.

They have one of the biggest of that cycle of protests. So 2013 is the second of the waves from the Occupy 2011 wave, right? There's a big wave in 2011, and then 2013 is the second one. One of the biggest ones is in Turkey. And Turkey's eventual solution to this is basically just wholesale slaughter of the Kurdish revolution that was happening. And, you know, literally in 2014, at the same time, 2014, 2015 2015 at the same time as the michael brown uprising is going on and then baltimore goes up right at the same time that's happening there's like these kurdish uprisings in turkey that's where all the firebombing happens right these

these these things are very very intimately connected there's a reason why other than just sort of country's corruption stuff that these that these forces are aligned with each other because the same the same people behind the American prison state are also the same people who are fucking backing this Turkish exterminationist movement against the Kurds. And we are going to either win our freedom together or we're going to have a thousand more fucking Eric Adamses. Exactly.

Yeah. And I mean, I think like going back to what I was saying before, like the craziest thing about all this and like, this is definitely something that I've kind of had to like step back and be like, all right, like I obviously am existing within like a specific community.

Like New York is a huge city. It's the largest city in the U S and there's lots of different smaller communities. And I was like, I feel like everybody that I know and everybody I interact with hates Eric Adams has like their own list of reasons why he has done XYZ thing. Whether it's my friends that are

teachers or work for or just use public libraries that he has really decided to attack and defund for various reasons or friends that have had to deal with the prison system or whatever. Or last year, I had been working on an investigative show that was uh looking into a lot

of the the situation at rikers and and you know rikers is supposed to be closed in 2027 and eric adams has really tried to push back against that despite the fact that it's like there's a federal invested investigation into the the situation there and it's not like the conditions are not good it is an unpopular solution you know it's it like most new yorkers agree that there needs to be some other alternative than rikers and just sending people to like literally an island that being said like he won the election he won his mayoral election it was sort of like surprising he was kind of the underdog there were other candidates that i think people had kind of been expecting to win and yeah he was the law and order guy he was coming in as supposed to be this like alternative to like the 2020

uprising to what was seen as this like chaos and again yeah it's the irony of him getting got by its own system getting got by the fact that like he just keeps doing crimes. He loves doing crimes. Favorite thing. And then at the same time, it's like he's caused all this damage to like individual, like specific programs in the city, specific systems that were really helping people. He has spread like misinformation about migrants that have been in New York. There's just a laundry list of things that he has done that has been insanely harmful for various reasons. And you know what?

If this is going to be the thing that's going to get on at the end of the day, this and Sabrina Carpenter, apparently that also, those of you who don't know, the Sabrina Carpenter feather music video apparently was a big part of the Eric Adams indictment from kind of the more local side involving the church that she was filming at. And the I'm not sure what his official position is, but like the priest who had kind of allowed her to come in and film. And then it ended up that he was demoted because if you've listened to a Sabrina Carpenter song, you can see why the Catholic church might not be super excited about that.

And then he decided to cooperate with the investigation since the church wasn't super happy with him. This whole thing is just, there's, it's like, there's so many aspects of this that are so crazy. If this is going to be the one that gets him, yeah. Yeah, so someone's going to do like to be the one that gets them, yeah. Yeah, someone's going to do like a 30-part podcast series about this something. I'm going to listen to every single one of these episodes. And there's going to be so much more stuff that's going to come out. Yeah.

Speaking of podcasts, Joey, do you want to plug your work? For sure, yeah. So I'm right now producing a show called But We Loved, which is on iHeart's network. It's part of our Outspoken network, which is our LGBTQ plus kind of focus shows. And you can find that on

Spotify, Apple Music, iHeartMedia, whatever. All the places. I also previously had worked on a show called Afterlives. If you are interested in learning more about Rikers and particularly some of the policy that Eric Adams himself has

worked to either stop from being effective or stop from making the reforms that's supposed to be happening in regards to the whole Rikers situation, you should check out that show. But yeah, that's where I'm at. You can also follow me on Twitter and Instagram

at PatNotPratt. That's P-A-T-T Instagram at Pat not Pratt that's P-A-T-T N-O-T P-R-A-T-T people got my last name wrong a lot we'll put that in the description yeah yeah Joey thank you for coming on and fuck I hope I hope we all get rid of our fucking bears because Jesus Christ

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