It Could Happen Here - Bovino’s Visit to Europe

Episode Date: June 8, 2026

Former Border Patrol Chief Greg Bovino travelled to a racist conference in Europe, James and Mia break down his interviews there and what it tells us about the culture of the agency he spent decades in. Sources: https://remigrationsummit.com/  https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/may/16/christchurch-shooters-links-to-austrian-far-right-more-extensive-than-thought  https://www.breizh-info.com/2026/05/28/260619/gregory-bovino-lhomme-qui-a-pilote-les-operations-trump-contre-limmigration-illegale-parle-a-leurope-interview/  http://www.toddmillerwriter.com/border-patrol-nation/  https://www.pewresearch.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/20/2025/08/RE_2025.08.21_Unauthorized-Immigrants_REPORT.pdf  https://www.cbp.gov/about  https://www.startribune.com/fact-check-federal-officials-claims-about-fatal-minneapolis-shooting/601570444  https://youtu.be/OYIK2-pO_7YSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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with his work in Chicago. I'm familiar with his work in Minneapolis. I am less familiar with his other work. I'm excited to tell you a higher tier of hater of one of the worst people we've ever had. Yeah, really a gem of the American law enforcement system. We're going to talk mostly today about Greg Bovino's post-career pivot, which seems mostly to be asking to have his old career back. But we can talk also a little bit about his previous career work when he was down here. He was I. B. He was in El Centro, who was in Blythe for a while. But last week, Mia, he was in Portugal. Oh, boy. Yeah. Do you want to guess why? You know, okay, going through my history of Portugal, it's a country that had a left-wing military coup that didn't go far enough by which they never quite got rid of all the fascists.

Yeah, a country that notably has a long history of fascism. Yes. which is why he was there actually. He was there in a remigration summit. Oh, no. Yeah. So I'm just going to use the conference's own website here. It is a set fiscal, cultural, economic, social, political, and logistical policies

whose objective is to prevent population replacement through the reversal of migratory flows. There's nothing there about undocumented people. there's nothing there about visas, right? Because this isn't about that. This is about race and ethnicity and removing people who do not line up with what you consider to be the national race. Yeah, this is the ethnic cleansing campaign.

Yeah. I mean, obviously there's like a lot of parallels in the history of all of these countries. But like, I think if you look at the most immediate one, it's, oh, this is like the shit the Nazis were talking about doing while they were building the concentration. camps with, like, Jewish people, right?

Is that they were going to, like, deport them all to Israel or whatever? Yeah, we'll keep moving them east. At the very least, this is an ethnic cleansing plan. Yeah, that's the explicit goal, right? There is not mentioned in that definition of undocumented people, even the way that they, Bevino refers to refer to it as illegal aliens, a term he uses a lot. And I think he sometimes uses it in quite elastic fashion.

But even in this case, that is not what this conference is. is about. No. Yeah. This is very much a conference about a white Europe. Yeah. It was organized by Martin Selner. Selner is a neo-Nazi who famously exchanged emails with Brent and Tarrant at a Christchurch shooter. Oh, great. Yeah. Povino spoke about this at the conference and he said that they hadn't met in person before, but after talking for a little while, they found they were on the same sheet of music. Incredible. Yeah. You got to Google. people, man. And like, he Google Martin Selner, and the first thing that comes up is that he emailed Brent and Tarrant, unless I guess that's not an issue. Yeah, right. Judging by the general company he kept,

I don't think that's an issue because he's joined, like, Spanish Vox party are there, AFD, the German far right party, racist from all over Europe. Yeah. We also saw the sort of racist in America, who I would describe as like fancy racists, the race science. guys, right? Oh, they're kind of like the beret people? Yeah. Is it those guys or is it the kind of newer gen like tech fascist people? So there's overlap between them.

No, it's like the V-Dha kind of tendency. Yeah. I know. Should we explain what the V-Dare? Yeah, a little bit. Go ahead, man. Yeah, take it. Yeah. Well, I was just going to say, at some point we're going to have Molly on. I am what you would

call a, I guess technically a professional Nazi, identify or whatever, but I'm like a low level one and everyone else in this network is a very high level one. So we'll probably have Malian at some point to like actually really go into VDAIR and like that kind of shit. But yeah, it's broadly speaking, it's Peter Brimelow's anti-immigration website. We're not talking about anti-immigration in terms of like discussions about what visas we should give, right? We're talking about like white nationalism. Yeah. These are like Nazi Nazis. These are people that, you know, like, I don't think the U.S. has ever really had what

what in Europe is called, like, the Kordon Sanitaire, which is supposed to separate out, like, the mainstream right-wing parties from, like, the Nazis. Like, we've never had that. So Vidaire has been kind of more in anti-immigration circles. But it's also, like, those are people that, you know, even you're kind of like really, really far right, like, people on the radio are politicians don't associate with because they are fairly open Nazis. Yeah, there was some stuff that traced back to Vida in Agenda 47. I remember thinking like, this ain't good. Yeah.

Vida, just for people who like have lived a blessed life and don't know, refers to Virginia Dare, who is, I believe, the first white child or the first child, first child, first girl. I don't know, maybe it was a boy before, but I think it was the first white child born in the United States of settlers. one of the Roanoke people, right? Yeah, which is, I don't know, like, maybe you motherfuckers could have made

like the Roanoke people and disappeared, but... Yeah, but... Yeah, that would be nice. Unfortunately, Meir. No. Unfortunately, they didn't, and they didn't, unfortunately, assimilate into indigenous cultures

the way that the Roanoke people almost certainly did. Yes. And instead, decided to... Yeah, in fact, quite the opposite. Yeah, half a millennia long campaign of terror and bloodshed. Yeah.

It's interesting to see Bavisian I guess, like aligning with these. European anti-migration discussion is different. It's not really dealing so much in undocumented people. It's dealing with people under various legal statuses. I'm not saying there aren't undocumented people in Europe. There are, but the discussion there has moved past that in a toxic way. Yeah.

In a way that it's like we need to remove these people, even though they do have legal documentation that allows them to be here. if the state says you're cool or you're not cool, that's not my concern. Yeah. But it's still alarming to see the bigotry move past even that, right? Like, without the pretense of enforcing the law. Yeah. And just simply being about removing people who we don't think we want to live next to because they're not white.

You know, one of the groups that you talked about there, like the AFD in Germany, like, this has been happening for like a long time. But one of their like slogans is remove kebab. Yeah. Right. And that's just literally like remove all Turkish people. people from the country. Yeah. And the AFD wants to do this. There are documents that have leaked from them that have been planning at conferences to, okay, this is how we're going to remove the non-white people. This is how we're going to remove the Jewish people. This is not even like the pretense of anything

as to do with the law. This is just like we are the original Nazis. We want to do ethnic cleansing against non-white people. Yeah. Most of the people at the conference are pedaling great replacement shit, right? And they genuinely believe that that is something that exists and that they can reverse it. At the conference, Bevino gave an interview. I found it on a website called Bray's Info, B-R-E-I-Z-H. It's a Breton and French language website. It's also published, I saw on a couple of other substacks, so I wonder if it was a pool interview that he gave. And there's various people translated it. I should note that I translated it from French. I don't think Bevino speaks French, so I'm imagining they translated it from English to French.

And there is an editor's note that says the editor was an AI. Oh, great. So any of the quotations here, we can't attribute them directly, right? Yeah. We can't assume that those are the words he said in English because it's been through three layers of bullshit. So I understand that going in. Nonetheless, I think it's a very interesting insight into how Greg Bevino sees the world.

And what's interesting about that is, like, Greg McPovino was very popular in Border Patrol. He was, by the standards of the patrol, a good Border Patrol agent, right? He was liked. And I don't think he developed these opinions in a few months since he retired. No. Yeah. And, like, a lot of the way he talks is not dissimilar to the way Border Patrol agents talk among themselves, right? I think that, like, what is interesting about this is not, like, Greg Bevino is essentially,

sharing a platform and agreeing with Nazis, it is after 25, 26 years in more than 90, 30 years, in the Border Patrol, this is what the Border Patrol formed him into. Because the point I want to make here is this shit is not

something we can easily reform. This is not something we can train. If this country gets through this and in 2028, yes, we have another election. God. We can't fucking let this keep happening, right? The tool that Bovino was deploying in Minneapolis, in Chicago, in Charlotte, in all these other cities in Los Angeles, right?

Yeah. Memphis. Like New Orleans. Like, yeah, like all over the country. Yeah. Yeah. It is a tool that Democrats built as well as Republicans. Yeah.

And the place he's at, he got to with. eight years working under Barack Obama, with four years working under Joe Biden. We need to understand what we are diverting a fire hose of money towards with the Border Patrol, right? And I guess we can just start

with where Greg Pavino started, which was comparing himself to Nazi general Irwin Romwell. Great. Yeah, right out the gate. He also compared himself to Patton and T.E. Lawrence. You know, like historically, it makes you wonder... Yeah. I think he probably has some kind of

clean Vermark thing going on in his head where they're just soldiers and he can respect both of them for their tactical prowess, you know, like, he says, quote, they grafts the overall strategy where others in government or in the political class did not see it or refuse to see it. Strategic expertise combined with field command, especially in chaotic, exposed events is very rare. I also listened to a couple of podcasts that Bovino did with a former Border Patrol agent who used to work in San Diego sector. And you hear this a lot, right, talking about battles, talk about. about soldiers, but Vino sees himself as like a general and border patrol as his soldiers

fighting in a war. Yeah. That's not what they do. Oh. Clearly they see it as that. I understand why, because they've got around the country generating so much ill will that, yeah, everywhere they go, people fucking hate them. Your actual job, and this only thing we saw in Chicago, is dragging, screaming babies out of their

fucking homes and putting them in camps. Yeah. I think this is going back to the thing you were talking about earlier about this not being something that's reformable is that, yeah, that task is what Border Patrol was built for. That's what it was doing under all of these administrations, just fucking dragging people screaming from their homes in the dark of the night. And like, the only way you can get people to do that is by creating a crucible that creates Nazis. You kind of have compassion for the people whose families you're tearing apart, right? Yeah. People should read Jen Bird's book if they want to know what going through Border Patrol Academy is like.

So let's give a trigger warning that Jen was sexually assaulted and writes about that. Border Patrol has a very high rate of sexual assault, right? Border Patrol is 95% male. I have seen people in Border Patrol who do have compassion and then I have not seen them anymore. Like it drives those people away. Yeah. They have a high dropout rate. And like, I think there are people who genuinely believe that what they will do is keep their community safe and rescue people who get stuck crossing the border in the desert, adjudicate them a fair process, deliver them to a fair process. And they will do the best they can.

I don't see those people remain in the patrol for very long, right? Like, I interact with, obviously, like, the stance at this podcast is that you should remain silent and not talk to cops. But, like, I interact with border patrol agents more often than most people do, right? that it's the nature of my job and the place I live and the places I go. And like, I think these days the recruiting they're doing, they're getting a lot of people who are coming in and starting like this. But I don't think that's, that's always been the case.

Like I understand that there are people also in communities along the border where there's very little economic opportunity and then this is the only chance they have. But I see those people get spat out. Like you said, Mia, if you are going to train people to tear families apart, then you have to train them to hate. And I think that is what we see in this, right? Like, yeah. It's really interesting.

Vino tells his own story a little bit, and he tells his own story on this podcast I listen to as well. He starts with Operation Don't Let Em Ride. You're familiar with Operation Don't Let Em Ride? No. Okay. So you have to go all the way back to 2010. Oh, God.

In Las Vegas, Nevada. Yeah. Little tiny baby Mia. Yeah. 13-year-old Mia. Oh, God. Fuck me. I feel old.

I was in grad school. and Greg Bovino, I think he's Blythe station at that time, and they do this operation at a bus station in Nevada. It lasts for 60 minutes. It gets called off. The Nevada Senator is pissed off about it. Their goal, they said, was to apprehend traffickers and to rescue people who have been trafficked or smuggled, right?

in a community meeting, which was convened because the whole Latino community in Las Vegas was like, the fuck, right? This internal enforcement was not a common thing at the time. Paul Beeson, who was chief agent of the humor sector at the time, said, quote, in that short period of time, we did not apprehend anybody we felt was actively engaged in alien smuggling. We did not encounter any human trafficking victims. So to me, that doesn't sound like a win. Yeah, so wait, so they like, they were just rounding people up at bus stops.

Correct. They went to like a bus depo station. Yeah, yeah, like one of the big bus. Yeah. And they just rounded people up. Yeah, exactly. So his interview with this former Border Patrol agent, he said that they apprehended more than one alien per minute of the operation. That was called Operation Don't Let Em Ride.

And that operation was set for about three days. It lasted 60 minutes. but the interesting thing is we caught more aliens than there were minutes in the operation. It was a very successful operation. Very successful. Yes, sir. Harry Reid called Hussein Obama and had that shut down immediately. But we never forgot that. We never forgot the vast amount of criminals that we apprehended in 2010 on those bus checks in Las Vegas and a pervasive problem, even then, that we were. we solved. A lot of that problem came in under Barack Hussein Obama as well as Bill

Clinton. I want to note the newspapers at the time reported a number that was more than two dozen. Technically, let's say the operation lasted 60 minutes. That is more than two dozen. It would be unusual to report a number of 60 by saying more than two dozen, right? Yeah. What is more interesting to me is that this operation was supposed to find people who had been trafficked to people who were trafficking and it failed. Greg Bevino, seems to have seen it as a success because it just found people. Yeah.

People who were undocumented, people who were otherwise in infraction of immigration laws, but who were not involved in trafficking. Because for him, it seems like the goal was slightly different and therefore the criteria for success are slightly different, right?

And this kind of fits into this narrative of him. So like I can see why he, it is, especially in the context of him talking to the remigration conference. For him it's a win, but for the explicit goals of the Border Patrol at that time, it's not. So he cites this as the beginning of his journey to where he is, right? It's a guy they went to for massive surges of Border Patrol agents into cities, tearing families apart. And I think if we see it the way he sees it, then we can see why he sees it as a success. but Vino in his early career had worked a lot in the Alcentro sector, right?

And he eventually became chief patrol agent in the Alcentric sector. He was in Bortak for a while. I've read a defense university paper that interviewed him. He was in Honduras with Bortak training Border Patrol there. Oh, Jesus Christ. Yeah, I mean, everyone should read Empire of Borders. Everyone should read Border Patrol Nation. But the DHS has done this for years, right?

Funded, armed and equipped and trained Border Patrol. control units all over the Americas, because that is how America externalizes its border. Yeah, in a very similar way to the way Europe does with Frontex and, you know, like, the deals like Gaddafi and the successive governments in Libya and stuff like that. Yes. And the people they're training there, it's like school the Americas share just like actual monsters. Like, yeah, I mean, the, uh, Sally Hayden's book, my third time we drowned is one of the more

heartbreaking books that's available for a human to read. But like, if you want to know about the fucked up stuff Europe's doing in Libya, uh, it's a good book. Yes, it moves the violence away from the metropole, right? It moves it further. I've seen this from my own eyes, right? I've seen what happens in Panama, not necessarily the actions of any border patrols there, but just by forcing people to take that route. Like, I've seen how the externalization of our borders kills people. And I have seen how the Biden administration funded deportations of people who I can't find any criminal record for. And I have seen literally babies taken out of people's hands.

Yeah. And they were deporting young men at that point. But I look at it. I've literally watched families torn apart right there just after crossing the Daring Gap, and it's heartbreaking. Yeah. Talking of heartbreaking, we haven't done an ad pivot. Oh, boy.

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not only had no experience was full enforcement of migration laws, but refused to speak publicly during operations. Their reluctance triggered the unique situation I mentioned above, and either sought nor asked to become the public faith of the operation. But for this type of operation, there can only be one. The responsibility fell to me. When you listen to this interviews he did when he was in the patrol, he wasn't as critical of his leadership as he is now.

Yeah. Probably for the very obvious reasons. But like, the letdown by leadership thing is a thing. We've seen this on the right so many times, right? Yeah, it's the classic backstab myth employed by one Adolf Hitler. Yes, yeah, yeah, like in many cases thereafter. And he kind of seeks in this to differentiate field agents from like, I guess he, what he calls status quo bureaucrats, right?

And he is genuinely very popular among field agents. Like, and he did like grow through the Border Patrol, right? Like, he's not a guy who like came from somewhere else. Like he has a 30 year career. He's done like mountain interdiction stuff down in the Hacomba wilderness. Like he's definitely like had his boots on the ground. I think they like that. and I think for him, that gives him like the,

he feels like he speaks for the Border Patrol and that like these people who are like bureaucrats are what is constraining him and his guys from doing what they want to do. And like, it's really interesting to see the terms how he describes what they want to do, right? He called the withdrawal from Minneapolis a surrender. He called protesters the opposition

in this podcast I listened to. he calls protesters pro-fascist which is very given the company he keeps his fucking ridiculous I feel like the other people at that conference can't be happy with that Yeah that's the thing right Where are the fascists here down there? Yeah they're not hiding it

Like it's very interesting to see him Like not willing to kind of surrender that term You know what I mean? Like to not quite say it At the same time as like Yeah there are other people at a conference who are like no way they're fascists what are you talking about? They're not pro-fascists. They hate us.

He's still like one step removed from joining his buddies there. Another thing I found interesting was he says, Border Patrol is often referred to as, quote, the federal law enforcement Marine Corps. What? Does anyone say that? I've not heard them say that. No, I, I, I, I, what? I've never heard that. It's a very strange, I'm guessing what he's referring to is like,

the Marine Corps has these expeditionary units which can deploy very quickly to conflict, though. It's like we saw in Iran, right? Like, yeah. And I'm guessing that's what he means. Like, they're the hit squad. Yeah, they're the, like, oh my God, we found like four children sleeping in a bedroom. We have to go, we have to go send their like tactical squad

after them. Yeah. There are, there are first line of defense against against tiny babies. Yeah. And against, like, Americans exercising their First Amendment rights. Yeah. When people were in the street in Portland, it was Border Patrol, they said. Yep. It was Bortak. Yeah. Yeah.

Right. They do have something of a history of being the federal government's hit squad. Yeah. When they want to stamp on Americans, they do send the Border Patrol. Interestingly, he went on to cite the Old Miss Riot. Are you familiar the Ole Miss Riot? It sounds vaguely familiar, but I'm not sure. Yeah. I mean, you can surmise what's going to happen. It's a university in the south. Yeah. What happens is that James Meredith, a black man, had attempted to register at the school several times. times he had been prevented by racists, including the governor. And at one point, JFK sent Border Patrol

agents along with federal, I think they were cross sworn as marshals maybe, to accompany him to register. They ended up surrounded in the Lyceum. Twenty-eight federal agents were shot. Jesus. Yeah, no, this is like they had a fucking fight about it. Like, two of the people surrounding the Lyceum were killed. I'm not sure I've ever in my entire life. seen a government deployment and thought you should have sent the National Guard, but like, yeah, I guess you should have sent the National Guard. Jesus, yeah, but the way Southern racist really, I guess, love shooting beds to oppose integration. Yeah, like, in this case, they sent the regular ass army to come get them out. Yeah. I think this was the era when they felt

like national guides in the South were not entirely trustworthy. Yeah, well, yeah, you'd have to do a Trump style, like we're sending the, the fucking, like, California. National Guard to Mississippi or whatever. They normally send like one of those QRF, like, 80-second airborne or something like that. Yeah, wow, I can't believe I'm in a position where I support the deployment of U.S. troops against America. Yeah, I know. Yeah, it's wild. I know, it's a wild scenario.

I guess it's like, because they're trying to do a lynching. So, yeah. Like in that case, yeah, maybe stop the lynching. But it's a really interesting choice. because he's talking about how Border Patrol, you know, like he had this long history of doing this. And again, he's not wrong. And I guess maybe the Ole Miss thing plays a part in their mythos

because they were fighting against the racists. I can see why they would want to hold on to that. It's interesting to see him doing that at the racist conference. Yeah. It's like, oh, no, no, no. We are a different kind of racist. We are California racist. We are not like the primitive Southern racist.

We have advanced our level of racism. racism to ethnic cleansing levels. Yeah, like, and he's very popular amongst the like, we're a different kind of racist, racist, right? Yeah. The V-Dair tendency is the like, quote-unquote scientific racists. Yeah. By the way, I want to clarify before I get screamed at, the thing I just said was like his

perspective, not mine, Jesus Christ, fuck these people. Yeah, yeah, yeah. All of them. Yeah, yeah, yeah, please don't clip me out of context. So, like, he then goes on after he's explained this to explain this to explain. in his history of migration. He says that around in the year 2000, quote-unquote, the floodgates open.

His basic thesis is summed up in his statement from 2000 to 2026, our borders were nothing but speed bumps. Illegals and smugglers need that once they cross the border, they were virtually safe from any consequences. A couple things there that obviously includes Trump's first term and part of the second term. Amnesia about Trump having a first term seems to be quite a common issue on the right.

It's really astonishing and on the left too. I don't know. I'm seeing it more and more. Certain people who will go on mentioned who were working for Blackwater under the first Trump administration. I was going to be bad. Yeah, it's very interesting to see this narrative, but again, not an uncommon one, right?

He talks about how he wrote a paper called Illegal Aliens and Destruction of Natural Resources. So he has two master's degrees. One is from the National Defense University. And I'm not sure if that's his second master's thesis, which I'd be interested, to read it, but I haven't been able to find it. I'm not sure NDAU makes

master stuff public. I think generally how it works is you have to opt to make it public. Like I'm interested to know is this kind of eco-nativism? Is it like carrying capacity shit? Like what? Yeah. It kind of reminds me is like, you get like, you get this from like Scandinavian racists

where they're like, they have this line about the welfare state where like the welfare state is a fire and you can only have so many people huddled around the fire. Yeah. And it's like, okay. Yeah. Well, God. We saw a lot from Mike Lee, right, when he was attempting another pathetic excuse

for selling off our public lands. Lee was saying how so much of our wilderness areas are destroyed by migrants, so we have to destroy them and sell them to protect them. The logic of Mike Lee is unknowable, but I'm interested to read that. If anyone, if anyone's like a library ninja, get in touch, I'd love to find that out.

He spent a great, deal of time explaining his 100 million number, and he refers to these people as illegal aliens, right? But he contrasts this with the number of 20 million. He says that comes from Pew Research, and he says it hasn't changed since the 1970s. What? That is not a statistic which is played out in Pew's published documents. I'm looking here at a 2023 paper from Pew, the number of unauthorized immigrants in the United

States, 1990, 3.5 million, 2008.6, 2015, 11.0, thanks Obama, and up to 14 million in 2023. He claims it's been 20 since the 1970s. Obviously, he's not giving a source here, but he claims Pew has said that, and that's not what I found from Pew. He sort of arrives at a hundred million dollar number. First, he said he was looking at some stuff from investment bank, Dare Stearns. I don't know what he was looking at. Why? Yeah, it's very strange. He then goes on to give the only hard statistics he gives, if he's talking about Charlotte, North Carolina here when they were doing Operation Charlotte's Web,

estimates indicated that 30% or more of commuters who are no longer traveling. This means at least 30% of the most likely illegal immigrants. This is based on traffic delays. He's getting the amount of time people spending traffic jet. Like, he's going on Google Maps. This is a massive logical leap. He then says, that's about a quarter of Charlotte's commuters,

30%, not a quarter. and this figure, you guessed it, fits perfectly with the total of 100 million out of 420 million people in the United States. I estimate that 100 million are illegal immigrants, same as the observation for children absent from Charlotte schools. More than 30% of students were missing. These were, of course, illegal children or children of illegal immigrants. The category of illegal children, fascinating choice of words. Oh, God. I'm guessing he's talking about undocumented kids or kids whose parents are undominated kids.

kids who's parents are in documents, is separate categories there. But, like, there are many reasons. I don't think we have to explain this to listeners why some people might not have wanted to be out and about or at school when board patrol are dragging people out of cars and smashing their windows. Yeah, this is an extremely common thing,

which is like, yeah. Like, not wanting to die. I want to point this out, too. Like, they shot, like, American citizens. Not that it's, like, worse to shoot an American citizen than a non-citizen, but, like, they did that. Everyone knew that they had done that. Yeah.

Like, they did that in Chicago. Yeah. Like. Yeah. They did it in Chicago. They were going to go do it again in Minneapolis. Like, yeah. Obviously, they shot protesters.

They also just shot random people, like, who they were like, oh, you're non-white. Fuck you. Right. Like, it's like that kind of shit. Yeah. People who got in most of the instance, we've seen that what they have said is a person tried to ram them with their car. And most of the times we have seen video evidence.

It certainly don't look like that to me. No. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, this idea that's 30% of students are there for undocumented people as ludicrous. Yeah. They were in Charlotte in like middle to late. November. There's a time when

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The precise tactics for removing those who need to be removed may take different forms in Europe and the United States. But grassroots will take care of it for us is between M dashes. I don't know if he means the grassroots will vote them out. Otherwise, that seems like a pogrom, right? Yeah, that's not good. Yeah, that just seems like an ethnic cleansing campaign conducted by people. I want to be like, like, because that's a really scary concept, right? Yeah, but also, yeah, it's an AI translation that was then translated by you.

I don't know, I don't know how your French is these days. My French is fine, but like, yeah. I forget who said all translation is an act of violence, but yeah, like humans doing translation is an act of violence. AI doing translations is like the fucking Future Terminator. Yeah. Bullshit where the machines have killed everyone. Like, yeah, a lot of really is lost in translation.

In between the M dashes, the French is La Bass Popularer Sans Charterer for new. So, yeah, come at me, French speakers. Let me know if you think there's a better translation for that. They then goes on to try and, like, not blame Trump, which is interesting. I don't believe Trump has abandoned his campaign promise. I believe that his advisors do not bring him back to reality on the ground. And then I skip to the little.

here. If I had to do it again, I would have brief Trump directly several times rather than relying on this inner circle who might have interests elsewhere. Trump is the best president I've ever worked for. I believe he will return to that campaign promise soon. Again, it's kind of a fashy thing, right? Like, it wasn't the leader. It wasn't the dear leader. It was some people who failed to reflect the dear leader's thought. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. It's very interesting to see him speaking so clearly this way. Like, there's two ways he could be going with this. He could be angling for his job back. To be clear, right, the reason we don't have Noam and Bovino anymore, in my opinion, is that after ICE and then CBP, both murdered U.S. citizens in the plain line of day on camera,

and then took to the television to lie about those U.S. citizens and the hours after they murdered them, they became too toxic for even the Trump administration to touch. Yeah. They were staggeringly unpopular. Everyone fucking hated them. Yeah. Yeah. You literally lost like, the old guys with NRA hats at the gun range who I sometimes talk to. Like, yeah, fucking, again, I can't keep coming back to, like, they lost fucking Kurt Warner who, like, is like a quarterback who has never once talked about politics ever and is like, like, made like a documentary that was like a bunch about like his like faith journey, right? And they like, when, when, when Kurt Warner is being like, hey, what the fuck?

Yeah. You've lost your leave. You're losing the conservative football guys. Yeah. I mean, you shoot a white man on his knees in the street in the back. Yeah. While you're beating him up. Yeah.

That's how you lose Americans. Yeah, that's how you lose barstool. Like, it's hideous. Yeah. He kind of has two choices, right? Like, he can go into the consulting world. He can go into the grifting world, right, and just become like a podcast grifter. Welcome to the club.

Or he can go into politics. And I wonder which, like, he's kind of left two of those pathways open, right? Like, he kind of podcast, Grifter or Politics. Well, and you can do both now, too, I guess. That's true. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. See, see the head of the FBI. Too much.

It was too much for Dan Bonchino. He retired and returned to the pod face. I guess, I guess, I guess, I guess, I guess, I guess it's like our noble, like, health and human services secretary. The latest shit-eating Kennedy or whatever, like, can still do that shit. But I, yeah, the serial podcast guest, I just want to come back to like, we need to reflect on this now, right? Like, we're doing primaries for the midterms right now. The Democrats have doubled down on same old shit almost everywhere across the country.

Like, we have seen some better candidates, right? But, like, I understand that, like, the pathway to a beautiful life is not through the Democratic Party. But if they are incapable of seeing that this isn't something that we can reform, if they do what Biden did in 2020, which is, like, oh, they just need more money. Yeah. This ratchet will continue to only move in one direction, which is towards a brutalization of more people. Yeah.

Just on a very basic level, having a massive institutional apparatus that produces Nazis and gives them the authority to do the thing that the Nazis want to do is not a way that any kind of democracy can survive. Yeah. And that's what we've seen. To paraphrase, we have created an entity

which is exempt from the law in order to enforce it. Yeah. We can't keep up with that. And like, now is a moment, I guess, it demands bravery. And from the Democrats, I've seen cowardice. Yeah. And, like, if they continue to be cowards right now, we're going to go so far down this path, there's no coming back.

Yeah. And I don't fucking know. But I think that's something we really need to reflect on. Yeah. We have 20,000 bovinos. Yeah. who we've given guns and training and authority to. Yeah, and who we've allowed to kill people in our streets

and not face accountability, right? Yeah. Like, I am not a county attorney appreciated generally, but, like, it makes me happy to see that Henopin County attorney go after the ICE agent who shot someone through their front door and they lied about it. Like, if a liberal democracy can't do any of that kind of stuff, then it's worthless.

It doesn't mean anything anymore. Yeah, and it won't. And it won't be a democracy afterwards, right? Yeah, yeah. It made his own bed to die on. There's examples of this fucking everywhere, right? But like the Biden administration was tragedy as farce of like Ayende promoting Pinochet. Yeah.

Like that's a thing, that's a thing that he did. He promoted Pinochet, right? Yeah. Like if you don't get rid of the people who want to fucking kill you and you instead give them more power, they're going to fucking kill you. Yeah. And like, Biden tried to, they tried pretty hard to retire, Bavino, because he would talk a lot about the situation at the border and Biden administration. But they didn't. No, they didn't. And then also, like, they made more of them. Yeah. And also they threw as much money, like the money that your kid doesn't get for free meals. It's because Border Patrol has Blackhawks. Like, yeah. Yeah. That was a heartwarming, an inspiring episode of It Could Happen Here, a podcast about things falling apart. Yeah, but hey, we beat the Nazis once, we can do it again.

Yeah, and Minneapolis beat these people. That's the other thing, right? Like, they won. Yeah. They came out and they stood together as a community. They didn't focus on trivial bullshit that divides them. They looked out for one another. Border Patrol thought they were in a battle.

And if they were in a battle, then they did lose it. They surrendered, right? Yeah, and like, that's also not to say that there aren't still, like, horrifying shit happening there, right? Like, there's still raids going on. You're absolutely correct. Yeah. And that, like, people aren't dealing. with the many other ills for capitalism

and a distance under the state as it is today. But they were not able to make those people cower in fear. Yeah. And that has shown the rest of the country how brave we can be together. And I just don't think we should forget that. Yeah. It could happen here is a production of Cool Zone Media.

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