It Could Happen Here - Canada Convoy Update

Episode Date: February 4, 2022

Dan Collen joins us once again to give an update on the Truck Convoy at Ottawa, Canada’s capital city. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

omicron great timing i love omicron i'm robert evans this is it could happen here a podcast about greek numbering schemas garrison what do you what do you how do you how do you feel about omicron this has nothing to do with the topic we're talking about so this is this is an update uh a few uh probably last week we uh earlier this week we discussed the uh the the trucker the trucker convoy scheduled our episode recorded before the truck convoy for after the truck convoy had already done a bunch of things yes it was really good so we we recorded to talk about the 50 000 trucks that were that were going to show up at ottawa and thing things did happen

maybe not that they did not because like i've been listening some of their claims are like and alex jones is parenting them now, that it was like 800,000 to a million truckers, and there's 300,000 truckers in all of Canada. But it was a lot of people, not to downplay what happened. So we're going to give an update on what happened there and kind of discuss maybe any ramifications that stuff like this could have going forward. But to help with that, we have Dan who came on last time to help discuss.

Hello, thank you for coming on again to talk about the same thing. Thank you for having me. We last less off with you saying that you hope I don't come back on again because that would be a good thing and it would mean that the bad things did not happen. So, sorry to be here under

such shit circumstances. Yeah, you want to go over the bad? Yeah, so... Let's briefly do a recap of what this thing was. Why was it happening and what was the idea? When we last left Canada, a bunch of

truckers were angry that they had to present evidences evidence of vaccination this spiraled and as i'm understanding it at some point them rejecting all public health measures uh yes actually the the exact demands are for the federal and provincial governments to quote terminate the vaccine passports and all other obligatory vaccine contact tracing programs, to terminate COVID vaccine mandates and, quote, respect the rights of those who wish to remain unvaccinated. And here's where it gets weird. It's going to get weird. Cease the divisive rhetoric attacking Canadians who disagree with government mandates. Kind of hard to say when that one's fulfilled.

rhetoric attacking Canadians who disagree with government mandates. Kind of hard to say when that one's fulfilled. And finally, cease to limit debate through coercive measures with the goal of censoring those who have varying or incorrect opinions. That's what the convoy is for. I mean, do y'all know what a government is? Evidently. uh evidently i was at some debates in 2020 uh with the state that went a lot uglier than it looks like this one went oh yeah yeah we we can talk about that this the the standoff has been well there's been just that it's been a standoff uh in that regard so it seems like they've kind

of hooliganed around a bunch of towns and threatened a homeless shelter uh if they didn't give them food and left trash everywhere and set up a checkpoint on the border or just a blockade on the border i think is probably more accurate there's been blockades going on and off the border uh yeah i think the most noteworthy is uh in alberta and coot right now but I might be pronouncing that wrong. And what was the police response? It was something along the lines of, we don't think there's like a policing solution to this problem.

Oh yeah, so you're totally up to date. That happened today. Yeah, so a little after 2.30 p.m. today, the Ottawa police chief, Peter Slowly, said in a press conference that, quote, there may not be a policing solution to this demonstration. Is it really that easy?

It's evidently, it's that easy if you wait till kind of like the media has had a few days and most of the coverage is just like breaking bad things still happening uh so it's it's not great so what what was the lead up on the set right because they were all all the trucks and caravans and stuff were supposed to arrive on saturday what was the lead up on saturday like and like what what happened on like the actual like first day yeah so saturday was technically the first day actually friday throughout the day uh a lot of people started

arriving so the occupation's been uh we're recording now wednesday um it started on friday and uh the main like the largest contingent of the convoy was staying overnight Friday night in a nearby town called Armpire, west of Ottawa. And they moved in from Armpire to Ottawa on Saturday morning. At the same time, people converged from other parts of Canada. To Ottawa's east is Quebec and to Quebec's east are the Maritime Provinces. And a few thousand people at least came from Quebec and met with the Maritime Provinces. And 3,000 people at least came from Quebec and met with the convoy too on Saturday, kind of coming in from different parts of the day

between Friday night and Saturday afternoon. And Saturday was kind of the big day, the big party. The main point of contention and the main thing that happened was some major streets are gridlocked by vehicles moving into the city, into the very crowded core of Ottawa, my hometown, and staying stationary on busy roads. Both commercial and residential roads are part of this. Driveways for both businesses and residences were blocked off. Fire roads are blocked off. Ambulance roads are blocked off.

Local businesses that stayed open had to close throughout the day Saturday, largely. Some managed to not, and many who just stayed closed already because they knew what was gonna happen. This happened, closures that happened on Saturday are mostly still going on today as I'm speaking to you Wednesday night. Closures followed patterns of harassment and some alleged assaults,

which Robert mentioned before, also happened at a homeless shelter in downtown Ottawa. And pretty much everyone I've spoken to, I've been in Ottawa visiting, it's my hometown, and pretty much everyone I've spoken to who lives in the downtown core has had a slew of stories since Saturday of either harassment at work or just harassment walking through the streets. And the worst part of it all is that right now there's not a clear ending in sight. Welcome, I'm Danny Thrill. Won't you join me at the fire and dare enter? Nocturnal Tales from the Shadows by iheart and sonoro an anthology of modern day horror stories inspired by the legends of latin america from ghastly encounters with shape-shifters

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Listen to Better Offline on the iHeartRadio app Apple Podcasts or wherever else you get your podcasts Check out betteroffline.com. What is it like on the ground there? In terms of, I know there's kind of like a blockade around the border, but what else is around Ottawa? What's it like to walk around in these places?

How big is the area that these people are staying at? Where are they staying at? Are they all sleeping in their trucks or staying at hotels? It's an excellent question. There's a mix. So hotels were booked up the week leading up to the weekend as the news cycle kind of exploded. More and more people called into hotels in Ottawa. A lot of people actually brought tractors.

People are also sleeping in their trucks. Of course, people have family and stuff staying in Ottawa. A lot of people actually brought tractors. People are also sleeping in their trucks. Of course, if people have like family and stuff staying in Ottawa, sometimes they're staying with them. It's a mix of everything. Actually, I know a guy who even his car was like blocked off in the parking lot. He has to park in because it's downtown. He doesn't have street parking or driveway parking. Like it's in a public lot and he couldn't get his car out uh for over a full day because an rb camper set up near him and just blocked him off so it's a mix of everything uh starting on saturday there's like a lot of partying a lot of music a lot of kids uh it's gotten a little bit more chaotic and less condensed since then. And also the area is hard to gauge because streets are actually constantly as vehicles move out for one reason

or another, streets are kind of being retaken back organically by the city. But then sometimes throughout the day getting retaken again back by the convoy. So the occupation has been a little fluid on some of the outside streets. Wellington Street, which is the street outside of Parliament in Ottawa, has been consistently occupied, to my knowledge, blocking off kind of, not actually blocking off, but you have to walk past them as a pedestrian to get onto Parliament Hill. So that's where the kind of the core of the action is and everything else spreads out from that and near hotels uh there's a little more action because that's generally where people are staying how has members of parliament and like local politicians been reacting since saturday i know there was there was some videos of like uh i think one of the mps from alberta was giving an interview

that gained some traction online. But yeah, just kind of curious how the different government officials are talking about this. I'm actually so glad you asked that because as of today, the divide in members of parliament has actually led to some pretty incredible political ramifications. So last time we spoke, I think Aaron O'Toole had just earlier in the day endorsed the convoy and said he'd be coming down. Aaron O'Toole, for those unaware, is the leader of the Conservative Party of Canada. He's a real O'Toole.

Wow. Whoa. Whoa. Mind blown. No one could have seen that joke coming. Mind blown. No one could have seen that joke coming. Every Canadian listener just like collectively pulled their eyes. Yeah. So Aaron O'Toole had just endorsed the convoy. He'd been getting some tough questions about it. Following everything we just talked about and more,

Aaron O'Toole walked that back and said, you know, he didn't approve of the way that the convoy was acting in Ottawa. This led to a swift referendum on his leadership. And earlier today, Aaron O'Toole was voted out as the Conservative Party leader in Canada. And that does have pretty big ramifications. I know I talked about Aaron O'Toole a decent amount in my previous Canada episodes for Can Happen Here. So yeah, that'll be really interesting to see who, what's, do we have any idea of when the new person's going to try to get voted in? Like, when do you think that process is going to happen to fill that spot? I'm actually not sure. I haven't looked up when it's going to happen. It feels like there's been months before where there's been leaders of the Conservative Party. The main concern right now for those outside of Conservative politics is because Aaron O'Toole was considered relatively moderate. You talked about in the Fascism Canada episode how Aaron O'Toole picked out Darren Sloan from the party for being pretty coy on

donations from neo-Nazi Paul Fromm on his campaign. Overall, that's a pretty great thing that Aaron O'Toole kicked him out of the caucus. Regardless of other elements of that leadership, there's worrying that that kind of thought won't be continued forward especially because sloan was also in the leadership race and sloan has only gotten further right since then yeah it is just despite aaron o'toole's not great aspects which there are lots of he did he did he did take it he did kind of hold back some of the more problematic uh conservative like elements whether that be you know people from you know from his own party like like derrick and then also keeping kind of the people's party stuff at bay um yeah and that will be an interesting kind of power struggle now that

will be something to observe i think the thing that concerns me most about all of this is the implications for this as a tactic. We saw a version of this that was more limited in scope and time in Portland in 2020 when this huge Trump caravan rolled through downtown, blocked off big chunks of downtown, and just maced and shot people with paintball guns at random. And it was kind of like, I think everyone there was surprised at how many folks they got for it. This is a much more evolved version of the same tactic. And it's kind of stuff we talked about in season one of It Could Happen Here, this idea of people coming from these conservative majority areas in a place where the vast majority of people are liberal but centralized in the cities and blocking those cities off or otherwise disrupting their ability to transit, potentially their ability to get things shipped in like food, like their ability to use free movement.

And we've seen pieces of this, again, in a bunch of places. In Oregon during the wildfires, you had these rural communities setting up checkpoints and stuff looking for people from the cities that they could bill as Antifa. And it's this world-worrying trend for a couple of reasons. Number one, when you get 10,000, 20,000 people to do something like this, even if the city has hundreds of thousands of people, that's effectively too large a group to police, and the police don't want to police it anyway. So there's not even really an attempt to stop them.

And it's a way in which the vast majority of Canada, at least based on the polling I'm aware of, is not in support of the causes these guys are backing. What is it, like 76% of the country supports some level of vaccine mandates? If I'm remembering correctly, the last one I read. So this is not a popular movement. It's not even super popular among the truckers, like the actual, like most truckers in Canada. It doesn't even matter how many people are in the cities. If you can get 50, 60,000 people to do something like this,

the police will not take action, and you can negatively impact the lives of a huge number of millions of people before it gets radical, right? That's when these guys are not coming in with guns with the express plan to eliminate people or trying to specifically block up food. They're just kind of fucking around now. But it's this kind of, it's this thing we've talked about where you have, this is a thing in Canada and the United States, you had liberals kind of outsourcing the protection of society to this group of increasingly heavily armed and radicalized people who are now in a lot of cases fascists. And that means that when there's a problem with a large chunk of people who hate everything you stand for, the people that you have completely outsourced protection to are all in favor of fucking with you because they hate you and it's it's a problem in oregon it's going to be a problem in fucking new york city or whatever at some point it's a

problem in ottawa um i don't know am i am i off base here am i am i am you're not on base at all and uh like there isn't there isn't anything to to really elaborate on past what you said last time we spoke i think robert you said there's not a whole lot uh was what you said that could really really be done with the vehicle occupation tactic and this is true to be unless a lot of people are willing to meet them with an equal force which unfortunately ottawa didn't have like it's a, Ottawa is a, Ottawa is a relatively large city in Canada. There's over a million people that live here.

It's also by landmass, I think the largest city in Canada, like east to west, it's very spread out. So it's a low population density. So even the affected area downtown is actually like pretty small in relation to the city itself, which is pretty unfortunate and

like it's not a particularly packed downtown for a large city downtown i am i am curious kind of on the violence aspect had um has like i know there's been like um an increase in like death threats to members of parliament like specifically liberal members of parliament specifically liberal members of parliament who are women who are maybe not white um so i i would be curious to see if you have any more kind of information on that side of things and then how how violence has popped up in a few places throughout the past like a week basically yeah there's been a lot so i mean even if you're going by what's reported like right now there is by most estimates under a thousand maybe at most a few thousand very far spread out people as part of the convoy as of yesterday there's 13 active police investigations the police of the city the city of ottawa said in the uh in oppressor we obviously

know when there's like 13 active investigations and anything this big there's way more that's not being reported not being investigated um like they took you know like these things are going to 13 is going to be a result of something bad so some of the things that happened robert mentioned before the alleged assault on a houseless person inside of shepherds of good hope uh in which a security guard was also called a racial slur uh there was a house that displayed displayed a rainbow flag outside of it uh that had harassment and poop thrown at it um there have been we need to get a hundred thousand people together to throw their own poop back at it. We need to get 100,000 people together to throw their own poop back at these people.

It's the only way they'll learn. Yeah, fighting fire with fire. That expression, I'm sure, just emerged from just tossing poop at each other's strategy. It's meant for this. There have been suggestions all over social media channels on like, here's how you can poop in snow banks without getting caught uh businesses have been harassed there's been violence so like what i think maybe some context uh that isn't always

known in ottawa on saturday and until recently dining in in restaurants wasn't allowed we were actually in a relatively strict lockdown following our own cron. And a lot of people even coming like didn't know that like I spoke to people on Saturday, who were like, Hey, do you know, like when the restaurants around here open, so we can like sit down for a meal. And I was like, there's no sitting down on auto. So what people were doing, they were going inside cafes, like to horns and stuff. And they were just refusing to leave and eating their food there anyways. And if there was no seats, they were just like eating in line. It was also minus 28 degrees in Ottawa on Saturday and very, very cold on Sunday. There was an extreme cold weather warning. So especially when people brought their kids, there wasn't a lot

of other options other than like swarm the malls and swarm restaurants. And even then the mall, the main mall downtown, Rideau Center was closed partway throughout the day because it was not a safe place. uh i already talked before about uh routes getting blocked also not physical violence but honking has been keeping people awake there's been endless honking uh if you watch video footage from it and uh even in the background right now i'm coming from ottawa like i can hear honking in my background um some people allegedly parked and then urinated on the tomb of an unknown soldier which is yeah it's a memorial i mean a lot of this isn't political is even the wrong way to describe a lot

of the what's fun about this for these people it's that they suck yes it's just it's just fucking hooliganism uh and that's yeah it's it's fucking hooliganism there's gonna be a lot more stories coming out for sure uh as things progress um of stories of harassment like i've talked to people who have gotten a cat called in the night uh people getting violent altercations uh street fights i'm sure are gonna break out it's kind of at a very tense point right now in ottawa we're at that point we're like, we're seeing some signs, like poops getting thrown at the houses. What's going to happen next?

Because the police are saying they don't have a plan and the truckers are saying they're not leaving. What's it like outside of Ottawa, across all the other places where there's similar activity happening? They're all looking to us and being concerned from who I'm talking to. Anti-fascists in Alberta are particularly concerned right now with the coup protests. There is ongoing to, it keeps seeing popping up like US-Canada border activities in the same. There's a few attempted convoys by Americans and even activities in the same there's a few attempted convoys by

americans and even before in europe there was a few attempts some got turned away some americans got turned away at the canadian border because they weren't vaccinated yeah which is you know like it's like you think because that's the reason they're saying they're protesting they would have remembered that and thought maybe that's gonna like come into play but I don't yeah I don't know there is a certain point where if you get enough people going it would be interesting to see people really do just try to like

drive through the border yeah yeah and I mean there's been people like you look at social media channels a lot of them saying like the borders are blocked right now with thousands of truckers supporting our cause. So if you saw that and you believed it, and then you went to the board and you're turned away from getting a vaccine, you might have thought, well, I thought I had, you know, 900 people with the same cause as me and we were ready to use force. Yeah. Which begs the question, well, what happens when you do? Exactly.

Don't want to find out. I want to find out. Yeah, that's the thing. If they did have what they say they had, would they just start doing those things and not even think about it? And not even think about the politics of it. They're just doing it to do it. Yeah, I should also mention too,

we talked last time about a Plaid Army slash Diagonal member's comments that were broadcast on the news about doing another, quote, January 6th. And it came on the news today. It was first reported by Frank Magazine and I think by the Canadian Anti-Hate Network that he was arrested on firearms charges in Nova Scotia before coming here. Worth noting, he was reporting live on InfoWars on the Alex Jones show on Saturday before this came out and Derek Sloan Derek Sloan and Ezra Levant were also on the same program I mentioned InfoWars before

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It's really tense seeing what's going to come for other cities. Also, Ottawa is expecting a second wave. Some other people in other places that kind of didn't think the first one was going to be a huge success are saying, well, now that it's an occupation, we're coming. And police are even saying there's a second wave. It's a very tense place right now. We don't really know what to do. Community members are talking about taking direct action because it's been so long. This isn't something that the city of Ottawa is particularly used to, unfortunately, in my lifetime. And so the ramifications of the future are pretty jarring. But what's alarming is how successful this occupation was with a relatively small number. I think the highest estimate was 18,000 people into a city of over a million,

which isn't really that many when you think about it, but the strategy was very, very effective. You think about how many fighters it took for Daesh to take control of Mosul. If there's not resistance, there's only really a few areas of a city that you need to occupy in order to have a great deal of control over

what can be done. Yeah, and that's the tough part is they have a lot of control over that small area and residents' lives. They don't have a lot of control over Parliament, which is what they're protesting for. Yeah. I'm also interested to see, has the Canadian military said anything about these protests and the situation so the ottawa police chief in his presser day was asked a lot about that and he's still shying away he's still saying he doesn't think military is the only option uh which if you're an activist on the other side of things and worried about police escalation hurting you in the future yep that might be a good thing to hear yeah yeah and i see you shitty news I'm not convinced that the military would fix the problem.

I'm not either. And also, Ottawa had other police forces coming too. They said they're spending $800,000 a day initially to just on cost of policing. It seems like they're giving you money's worth. Yeah. Yeah. They also said they've only, like, bylaws only had 150 tickets since this whole thing started in the occupied zone so it's unclear what a lot of them did other than you know keep up

appearances uh like i was walking around i saw york region police officers walking around with their patches that's hundreds of kilometers away from ottawa so police presence especially on the weekend was not low we had plenty they either didn't know what to do thought it would die later or a mixture of all the above and there's been talk to uh mixtures of some police officers have not been happy with it but there hasn't been really anything in the news yet because no one's come forward a lot of like tweets of like from reporters saying i have an anonymous source in the Ottawa police that says they wish more actions were taken. Some saying otherwise. It's not really united right now.

It's scary. Is there any counter protests being planned for Ottawa? If I knew, I'd say so because by the time this airs, it would have have happened so i think it'd be safe to talk about but uh fortunately uh i'm not really insure i'm not actually sure but i might not be the best person to ask okay yeah we're keeping an eye out well the good news is that all men die and so long as men die liberty will never perish right that's good it's an upside that is an upside it's an up it's a positive shot all right well that's gonna do it for us we'll keep an eye on this and um what what results from it because it's all pretty concerning um and worth having having an eye and i'm

particularly curious as to just like what kind of direct community responses to this develop because i think that's going to wind up being the only long-term solution you know it's kind of what people saw in portland that you there's a there's a degree to which like the only thing that really works as a response is is outnumbering them yeah on on that note uh it might be maybe not the smoothest transition but uh there are actually some auto and mutual aid funds and then advocacy yes that are doing some some cool stuff and there's up with that there's too many to list for everyone oh well uh but others have compiled lists and i'm going to point to you there. So Rose Ottawa,

which stands for Rainbow Ottawa Student Experience, serves two SLGBTQIA plus post-secondary students on unseated Algonquin Anishinaabe territory. Now they have closed off donations for themselves following a wonderful spike recently. They have a list of Black-led and Black-empowering organizations on their website with donation links, and you can reach that at roseottawa.org slash donations. There's a cool little Instagram account called Trans is Beautiful OTT. OTT stands for Ottawa, and that's all one word. It's been plugging small fundraisers for queer folk affected by the convoy, including housing support on their Instagram. Again, that's transisbeautifulott on Instagram. Something we didn't get to talk about, which is Ram Ranch, ramranch.ca, R-A-M-R-A-N-C-H.ca.

A website was set up in the name of Trolling the Convoy Zello Chats and has been doing a fantastic job about it. There's a whole army of trolls in the truckers' Elo chats, and it's been really entertaining to tune into. They've compiled a list of charities on their website. You can check that out at ram-ranch.ca and clicking on the Rancher's Donation Zone. And yeah.

Where can people find you on the internets? People can find me on the internets. I'm super active on Twitter at spineless elp the word spineless the letter elp fantastic well hopefully

this gets all resolved and I don't need to fly up to Canada to go to a protest if we do that'll be fun I've been wanting to go to Canada for a minute yeah we can take drugs at Tim Hortons that'll be fun. I've been wanting to go to Canada for a minute. Yeah, we can take drugs at Tim Hortons. That would be fun.

Yeah, oh god. I haven't vomited in a Tim Hortons bathroom in a long time. Our local McDonald's that got famous on the internet for a fist fight that someone pulled a raccoon out of their backpack during had to actually stop being 24 hours

after the mayor pleaded with them because it was using up too many police resources. That is fascism. That is the best kind of place. They, if they go over a hundred and ninety nine one wall calls in a year. That's so dope. Oh God.

Yeah. Oh, I want to, I want to set up somewhere on the border in the East coast to Tim Hortons directly across the street from a Waffle House and just let him fight. Yeah, we do miss that here. That's something you'll have to bring that over.

Bring the Waffle House vibes over. All you need to do is watch a man get stabbed and then spiritually you're at a Waffle House. And that ties back to the future of the convoy you're right well that that does it for us today everybody we will see you later it could happen here as a production of cool Zone Media. For more podcasts from Cool Zone Media, visit our website, coolzonemedia.com, or check us out on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. You can find sources for It Could Happen Here updated monthly at coolzonemedia.com slash sources.

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