It Could Happen Here - Chuck Schumer and the Collaborators

Episode Date: March 19, 2025

Mia and James discuss how Chuck Schumer and the Democratic collaborators handed Trump extraordinary power by passing a devastating continuing government funding resolution and political core of Democratic collaboration with Trump. Sources: https://apnews.com/article/dc-budget-trump-congress-gop-29738c7281955d77075c8b98009f860e https://archive.ph/35bXs https://apnews.com/article/house-gop-budget-trump-tax-cuts-agenda-7d29a6840fa474b841228d20e5e96b55 https://time.com/7268499/senate-democrats-budget-vote/ https://www.commondreams.org/news/republican-spending-bill https://nlihc.org/resource/congress-passes-and-president-trump-signs-law-year-long-stopgap-funding-bill-underfunding https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/03/schumer-trump-budget-senate-dems-aoc/ https://www.appropriations.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/250308_johnsons_yearlong_crpdf.pdf https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/11/politics/democrats-gop-government-funding-bill/index.htmlSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I'm Mia's collaborator today. Yay, this is collaborator good. We are talking today about collaborator bad. So on Friday, Senator Chuck Schumer and his allies, in an act of Democratic collaboration with the regime that looks even more hideous now than it did then in the wake of a series of absolutely horrific deportations in the last few days voted for basically a continuing funding resolution, so this is This is a little bit complicated, but I believe in us we can get through a little tiny bit of Senate bullshit So basically what's happening is that they need a resolution to keep funding the government for a little bit until more

Negotiations can happen to fund a budget there hasn't been a budget basically like we keep seeing this over and over again They're keeping continuing funding resolutions They're keep almost being government shutdowns because if there's not a continuing funding resolution, there's no budget the government doesn't have any money What happened here was that so in the Senate you can filibuster this and a whole bunch of senators Schumer and others We will be reading out later after we talk about what this resolution actually did because it's unhinged so you've probably been hearing if you've been hearing about this you've been hearing you call it cloture vote so what that is is basically the absolute shortest version of it is it's a vote to kill a

filibuster on the bill I'll be filibuster by continuing debate cloture ends debate center etc. So this resolution is staggeringly unhinged. It is not a very long funding continuation. It includes 13 billion dollars in cuts in non-military spending and also 6 billion dollars in military spending cuts. There are a lot of things that have been sort of defunded by this, including like a lot of like housing and urban development stuff. So research ship, you know, and that's obviously really bad. Because normally with these resolutions, you're just sort of like continuing the funding, right. But this is not a normal continuing resolution. This is it is over it is very very over dramatic to do the thing that

a lot of people have been doing which is comparing it to the enabling acts that the Nazis passed. Yeah it's not. But but comma this is a completely unhinged continuing resolution there has never been a continuing resolution like this ever. And it is, genuinely, it is another step down the path of effectively having Trump running the government as a dictator by sort of pure fiat. And, okay, you're hearing me say this, and you think this is an exaggeration. What this continuing resolution actually does is normally in one of these resolutions, Congress tells the executive how parts of the budget are supposed to be sent, right? It does allocations. It'll be like, OK, so there's this money for this thing and it goes to this purpose and you have to spend it here. This continuing resolution just like doesn't do that. Yeah. And the goal of it is just to let Trump do whatever the fuck he

wants with the money by not actually giving out congressional things to specifically allocate it. So this is more of a thing we've been seeing more and more, which is Congress specifically like delegating and abandoning its constitutional power to be the people who set the budget and just handing it over to the executive so there can be a single unitary executive that runs the entire government. Yeah, I mean when you combine it with the open defiance of the courts that we saw this weekend with deportation, right? Like it's not a good outlook actually, like it is in terms of the old separation of powers which is, you know,

supposed to be a thing. Yeah, you know, you could argue about whether the American Revolution was about the king being able to set taxes because that was technically a thing controlled by the British Parliament. But it is, for example, the issue that the Revolution of 1789 was fought over, right? There shouldn't be a single unitary executive who gets to fucking set the budget. It's fundamentally, I don't want to say unconstitutional because I guess I don't get to decide what is unconstitutional and to the extent that it matters. No, fuck him! Fuck him! We get to... well, it doesn't matter, yeah, but it is like obviously

hideously unconstitutional. It's entirely against the basic principles of the constitution, right? Like the sine qua non of the US constitution, to use a fancy word, is separation of powers. Is it not like, the kind of the point of the thing is to not just have one older dude in charge. Like that is the English way. Yeah, and this is the fundamental principles

upon which the liberal notion of democracy is based. And I use liberal in like the 1700s Early 1800s sense of the word liberal, right? Which is that like you believe in democracy This bill effectively just allows trump to fund and defund programs at will I mean, there's you know, there are there are specific things like boundaries in which he can and can't do this but i'm going to read some stuff from Senator patty moray who is the the vice chair of the Senate Appropriations Committee, which is the committee that handles like Where money goes in the budget right? It was budget appropriations, etc So she you know is one of the senators who sort of understands this intimately

She wrote a fact sheet about this which is fucking terrifying. I'm just gonna quote from that because good God wrote a fact sheet about this, which is fucking terrifying. I'm just gonna quote from that because good God. Quote, under this continuing resolution, the Trump administration could, for example, decide not to spend funding previously allocated for combating Fentanyl, the Support Act, and other substance abuse and mental health care programs, or specific NIH priorities like Alzheimer's disease and vaccine research, and instead steer funding to other priorities of its choosing. It could also pick and choose which military, construction, army, corps, or transit improvement

and expansion projects to withdraw funding without direction from Congress, leaving democratic states and priorities in the lurch. Yeah, that's, that is, like, that's not great. Like, I don't think people realize how much damage this could do. And like, yeah, they have a year of just randomly slashing, not only is it the programs who are affected, right, things that are cut, the certainty that contractors will get paid, the certainty that if you have a contract with the government, it is a reliable thing.

Like that will have devastating economic consequences if they just start randomly yoinking contracts and not paying people, as they did with the USAID suppliers, right? Yeah. So there is also a bunch of funding cuts for things like the Army Corps of Engineers. There are a lot of valid criticisms you can have about the Army Corps of Engineers and, for example, the way it has structurally fucked the entire city of New Orleans. But the thing is, not giving them money to do hurricane prevention is not gonna help that.

And the thing about this, right? Because this resolution has 13 billion in direct budget cuts. And then it also allows Trump to do more cuts on top of it by doing these funding allocation things, right? So it's a fucking double, it's a sort of double set of cuts here. This includes, you know, he can reallocate money away from the FAA. One of the most absolutely terrifying ones is that this continuing resolution allows RFK Jr. to eliminate funding for the universal flu vaccine.

Yeah, I was talking to someone in the medical profession about this. Like there's a serious chance that there just won't be one developed in the US for next year and that it will just use the European one. Great stuff. You know, this is really the substantive problem with this entire thing and why it is genuinely an act of like an act, an act of collaboration worthy of VG France to fucking pass this to pass this fucking bill Yeah Is that again you are handing control of like the budgets right you are handing direct control of just like How budget allocation stuff gets gets fucking dealt with to like Elon Musk Trump and RFK jr. And they can just fucking do this shit with it. Yeah, we've already seen some of this like Manipulation of federal government funding like with the color with Columbia University. Oh, we've already seen some of this like manipulation of federal government

funding like with Columbia University. Oh, we're gonna get to that. Yeah, okay, good. Exciting. Yeah. So other things, it defunds FEMA's disaster relief fund, which is bad because a bunch of FEMA disaster relief fund has been, get this, exhausted because there were a bunch of fucking disasters. Guess what there's gonna be more of? Disasters. Guess what there's not going to be money in? The FEMA disaster relief fund. Yeah, that's bad. Yeah, and here's the thing.

We have not fucking hit the worst part of this continuing resolution yet. Like all of that, right? Like the monopolization of power in the hands of the executive, you know, like the the potential defunding of the flu vaccine. We have not hit rock bottom yet. Rock bottom is this. of the executive, you know, like the the potential defunding of the flu vaccine. We have not hit rock bottom yet. Rock bottom is this. Hitting resolution quote, slashes $185 million dollars, 7% of the total program, from defense nuclear non-proliferation programs, including the programs that prevent terrorists

from acquiring nuclear and radioactive material, remove radioactive materials at risk of being misused or causing a catastrophic accident, and deter and monitor foreign nuclear fuel cycle and weapons developments, nuclear materials movement or diversions, and nuclear explosions. Cool. So we are defunding the nuke police. Again. For a third time. And this one looks like it's actually gonna fucking stick because I don't think any of these fucking people

actually understand what the defense nuclear non-proliferation like programs do yeah I mean I don't know because they were on one about Iran and enriching uranium for years have they just have they just give have they moved on like this as we're going to see in a second, this budget is being written by just fucking clowns. Like, just absolute dipshits. I don't know who the fuck is doing this. That's what I sometimes wonder is, like, who comes up with these numbers? Like, is there like a... Staffers. It's literally an army of staffers. Yeah. The senators who are voting for these bills most often have no idea what the fuck is in them. It's all run by an army of staffers and and the thing about it all being run by an army of staffers and the fact that

Republican staffers are increasingly drawn from a class of like Genuinely the most unhinged people who have ever lived this this class of fucking internet gropers and fucking white nationalists bullshit means that One of the parts of this I think people have heard about is the one billion dollars in spending that was cut just from like the city budget of Washington DC. Now looking at what's happened next I genuinely think they did this by accident. That's been the explanation that's been given is that they literally did it by accident and the reason I think it might actually be true it's either it's either actually true or they saw the pushback but immediately after this bill

got passed, there was like a separate bill that was drafted to restore the funding. And that was approved unanimously by the second. So it might legitimately have been a mistake. So it was either legitimately a mistake or all of these people realized that the entire population of DC was about to like fucking march on the Capitol of Pitchforks. So I don't know what one of those two things. So we're not talking much about the DC stuff because it seems like the funding is going to come back. Though if it doesn't, we'll cover the catastrophic impacts of that. And there's one more thing, James, which I couldn't find details of. But one of the things it's supposed to do is eliminate protections

for people in immigration courts. Fantastic. Great. Allow the Attorney General more power. Yeah. I was just looking this up actually. Let me, there was an office founded under Biden that was the Office of Immigration Detention Ombudsman, which was supposedly to exist to examine people's conditions in immigration detention, right? And I'm wondering to what extent it still exists. Yeah. I don't know.

I was just trying to find that out I would have to go through the resolution and maybe I will at some point but yeah there is stuff that the federal government does right now that provides people with some protections in immigration courts, right and Yeah, I can I mean look to the extent of that matters because they're just deporting people in open violation of court orders right now, we don't know. But it's still bad. Either way, right? Taking away the very few protections that migrants have.

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He's a quizzling in this scenario Like the capital Q quizzling. Yes. Yes Okay, so Chuck Schumer, Katherine Cortez Masto, Dick Durbin, which is actually a surprising one because Durbin, so Durbin's about to retire He was my old senator in Illinois. Actually, no, he wasn't Complicated. I actually fucking don't remember which one of them I had. But Durbin is, you know, he's like senior party leadership guy. He's usually been in like the kind of left, I guess, of the like old democratic like leadership, which's not very far left, but he fucking voted for this John Fetterman to the surprise of absolutely no one first thing Gillibrand to the surprise of absolutely no one Yeah, thank you son Agnes King Gary Peters Brian Schatz and Janine Shaheen

Now notably missing from that list Tim fucking Kane Voted against this do you know how bad a Republican budget thing has to be for Tim fucking Kane voted against this. Do you know how bad a Republican budget thing has to be for Tim fucking Kane to vote against it and be like, hey guys, what the fuck are you doing? Yeah, and the thing is, like, as a Democrat, the move, just if you want to get reelected, is to vote against it and then blame them for everything bad that happens this year because of the budget. If you have no moral backbone whatsoever, and I'm sure like there are things in this continuing resolution which will really screw over rural areas, right?

Like some of the funding that was allocated. Oh yeah. And like Kane is at least, I guess, astute enough to see that when things get harder for his constituents, he can go, yes, they did this and I voted against it and you need to return me to office so I can continue opposing this shit, which is very cynical approach. Yeah. But then, yeah, we've just got Chuck Schumer who just kind of bowed down and, uh, kissed the ring.

Yeah. And, and, and, and, you know, the response to this is staggering. I, I genuinely, I have never seen anything like the kind of anger I'm seeing. I've seen that true over the past few days. This has happened Friday. Like Indivisible, which is like a pretty, so Indivisible is like a sort of NGO-y thing that's like, it's like a sort of vaguely progressive thing. It tries to get people to vote for the Democrats.

Yeah. And like register voters and stuff. Yeah. They've been getting into fights with the Democratic leadership because they keep telling people to call their senators, tell them to oppose bills and the nominations, the Democrats are like, we don't want to oppose bills. In 2020, in mobilizing the vote in Tornado territory,

for instance, like an indivisible Tohono played a really important role. So like they're not negligible in their power. No, yeah, and like they're not negligible in their power. No. Yeah. And like they are calling for primary Chuck Schumer. R slash neoliberal is calling for AOC to primary Chuck Schumer. Do you know how fucked things have to be for R slash neoliberal to be backing AOC against

Chuck Schumer? Like fucking Neera Tanden is agreeing with Bernie Sanders criticizing Schumer for voting for this bill. Like this is like... I... I don't know. I think there may be... There probably are people in the audience here

who either like weren't paying attention enough or like don't remember or like weren't old enough to be around for like the Bernie Wars. But this is like every faction on every side of like the whole series of fights from like 2015 and like Bernie's first thing through 2020, even like the mid to late 2020s. Like all of these people were on exactly polar opposite sides.

They fucking hated each other. And they're all like coming together specifically to agree on a fuck Chuck Schumer campaign to the point where like Again like our slash neoliberal and like neurotandient who are like have been just absolute stalwarts the party right for ages are like are backing AOC Primaring Chuck Schumer Yeah, it's a total cultural victory for the Bernie bros is what's happening. It's a Democratic Party. Well, again, Chuck Schumer is the head of the Democratic caucus in the Senate.

Yeah, Minority Leader of United States Senate. Yeah, he is, you know, he is unbelievably powerful. And I mean, like the people criticizing him, he got criticized. There was a joint statement on funding bill in the Senate from the Democratic minority leader in the fucking house, Hakeem Jeffries and the Democratic whip, Kathleen Clark and the caucus chair, Peter Aguilar and like Hakeem Jeffries is as ferociously anti socialist of a politician as there exists in all of Congress.

He is like implacably hostile to even like the most like bearish progressive things whatsoever. Lackably hostile to even like the the most like bearish progressive things whatsoever he is just staggeringly opposed to it and they released a joint statement Against this right what is sort of happening here, and it's happening fucking too late to stop anything But what's happening here is like we are genuinely starting to get a kind of and I'm seeing this sort of online I'm we've but I think we've been seeing the sort of echoes of it is like there's a kind of and I'm seeing this sort of online. I think we've been seeing the sort of echoes of it. It's like there's a kind of realignment happening among. You know, obviously this has been being opposed by people outside

the Democratic Party and by a lot of the Democratic Party's base for ages, right? And the Democratic Party's base and also just like people who don't want to get be ruled by fascist forever have had, you know, incredibly staunch opposition To all of the collaboration is investment happening But what's happening right now is that like the actual like inside of the democratic party? There was a fucking rupture happening and inside of the people who are like, you know, like inside of the politicos There was a rupture happening between people who are collaborationists and people who like want to be less collaborationist

And this is to the point where like Nancy Pelosi came out against this. Yeah. And the reason they're doing this is because a lot of these people are fucking terrified because they are looking at a couple things. One, they're looking at what the Trump administration is doing and they're going, holy shit, like Neera Tanden is looking at them fucking just blackbagging, just like just fucking blackbagging Mamou Khalil and is going like, holy shit, we are maybe about about I mean, it's maybe eight steps away from that happening to me But that's eight steps that you can fucking that like that's a path you can walk down Yeah, and this is also these people that are realizing just the

unbelievable anger among just like Regular what you would call sort of like regular liberals who aren't like like you vote for the Democrats but if you weren't like yeah they're not like on Twitter with a blue wave emoji. Yeah but the thing is even even the people on Twitter with a blue wave emoji and again like the r slash neoliberal people are like the most ideologically committed of all of these people right like even the most unhinged nerds who are like obsessed with like individual house races and like

very, very specific, weird technical policy stuff that allows them to justify supporting all these unhinged policies. Even those people are turning on them. And the reason this is all happening, and I think this is a very, very important thing to understand about the entire political landscape going forward, is that one of the core and extremely important basis of Donald Trump's support is in the leadership of the Democratic Party, particularly the Democratic Party in New York, right? Mr. Schumer, this is Eric Adams.

This is also increasingly becoming true of people like Gavin Newsom and a lot of the sort of Democrats out of the Bay to some extent. And you can see this in sort of various border states too, where these people fundamentally are doing this because they fucking agree with him. That's why they're fucking collaborating. Yeah. Or at the very least, and perhaps it's in a sense worse, that they don't agree with him but they don't care enough to not... They're doing it because they think they can personally benefit.

No, I don't think that's true. And my evidence for why I don't think that's true is I'm going to read some stuff from the New York Times interview that he did with Chuck Schumer right after he did this. Are your ears bored? Yeah. Are you looking for a new podcast that will make you laugh, learn, and say que? Yeah. Then tune in to Locatora Radio Season 10 today. Okay.

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or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. Okay, so in this interview with the New York Times, he gets asked about Trump cutting $400 million of funding for Columbia University for, I guess, not publicly executing the Palestine protesters. And again, Columbia Columbia University that is an institution that he represents in the Senate right yeah I guess like his that's like his fucking thing and his response was well obviously they didn't crush the campus protests hard enough but but cutting 400 million dollars of spending might hurt students who didn't protest like maybe he's not even clear about that, right? So if you read between the lines of what he's saying, his argument is that it's actually fine

for Trump to do all of these fucking budget cuts of all of these people from these universities as long as it's specifically targeting pro-Palestinian protesters, which is anyone who's vaguely pro-Palestine. And he also gets, you know, he gets asked about the Trump administration just straight up blackbagging Mahmoud Khalil. And he says, quote, I don't know all the details yet. They're trying to come out and there'll be a court case, which will determine it. If he broke the law, he should be deported. If he didn't break the law and just peacefully protested, he should not be deported. It's plain and simple. I mean, how is it hard to not make an equivocating statement on that?

No, because he agrees with it. He thinks it's fine. He thinks it's fine. The Trump administration fucking blackbagged this guy. Like again, who is who is a permanent US resident. He thinks that it is okay that he's not even disagreeing with the actual literal blackbagging. And I don't point this out. Even if Hamu Kalil like legally committed a crime crime like that's not a fucking deportation thing yeah the

section of the United States law they're using to justify deporting him it's not one that has been used before this is not he did not do a felony and they're not suggesting that he did do a felony and like if Schumer can't find it in himself to condemn that like yeah, folks need to move on. No, it's because he agrees with it. That's the thing. What he is saying here is that he agrees that if a permanent legal US resident commits any crime.

Or doesn't though, he's not accused of a crime. No, no, but this is specifically what Schumer said. Schumer said, quote, if he broke the law, he should be deported. What his stance is, is that if someone No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, Like that is it is slightly less than Trump administration lie, but that is that is a genuinely fascist political line She just straight-up agrees with the administration He is a slight matter of degree like off from them But like he's he just like he's collaborating because he fucking agrees with them He agrees with them both on on the fact that the state should be used to like destroy anyone who supports Palestine

And she agrees with them on the fucking deportation shit. Because this is one of the other things that Democrats have fundamentally aligned with Trump on since 2020. Is that fundamentally they agree that we need more immigration controls and we need to do more border violence. You can see the evidence of this from when they fucking passed that just unhinged fascist bill to allow border state of emergencies. Yeah.

And the stuff that they proposed and didn't pass because the Republicans wanted to kill it and then Biden executive order banning asylum. Like, I think what it comes down to is that for the Democrats, the existence of people who oppose a genocide in Palestine and the existence of migrants is seen as inconvenient and they're prepared to do away with any rights those people might have, and even do away with those people rather than engage with them in any way, right? They, I'm sure people like Schumer continue to blame people from both of those movements for their ass whooping that they took at the polls in 2024, because

they decided that it was more important to do genocide than it was to listen to those in this country. Rather than listening now, they're blaming them and the only logical way for them to go is right. And the only logical place for them to take it is more state violence, right? Yeah, but there's another aspect of this too, which is the thing I want to close on which is okay So why did the Democrats been shifting so far to the right since 2020? Right and since particularly since after 2022 when they needed to sort of win it contest now for election And the answer is that after 2020 all of their politics became about opposing the uprising Because they you know there was a period dream the uprising where they were scared enough that like you get like the Kentie cloth shit and they're like

you know, and they're talking about like and Biden like runs on a significantly more left-wing platform than like Kamala Harris did right yeah like because of the specifically because of the pressure of those protests now obviously like presidential platform is just lies right but right yeah it's just lies you need to tell to get the votes yeah yeah but on the other hand the fundamental politics of the other Democratic Party in the last half a decade has been opposing the uprising it's the Thing that's you know behind all of their turned tough on crime politics is the thing behind there there's sort of anti-immigrant politics thing behind the turns they've been taking on trans politics and

The problem with this typically like the anti-black anti-crime shit and the anti-immigrant stuff You know who else his entire politics Like came into the fucking political sphere as the right-wing reaction to the uprising Oh wait, Donald Trump Donald Trump walked down the fucking escalator in 2015 immediately in the wake of the giant uprisings in Baltimore in 2015 Which I think people have sort of memory holds like Ferguson in Baltimore He like it's like right after Baltimore that Trump fucking comes down the escalator. And that, and people, people forget how fundamentally the right-wing reaction to those protests deranged people who even the tea party hadn't pushed like far enough to, to, to vote for Donald Trump.

It was like, it was a reaction to this. Yeah. That's when we saw the oath keepers for the first time as well. Like this kind of militant right really grew dramatically in response to that. Yeah. And this is the sort of fundamental thing that's going on is that there's now an entire class of people who are running the Democratic Party. Right. This is a fucking Chuck Schumer. He's like, I mean, quite possibly the most powerful Democrat in the country.

And he is just straight up a collaborationist Yeah, it might legit become that like AOC is more powerful than Chuck Schumer in the next few weeks You know, he is the the reaction against Chuck Schumer from establishment Democrats is stronger than anything I've ever Seen from them. He lost Seth Bolton, which I didn't even think was possible Yeah but I think there's one more important note to sort of say here, which is that like, you know, the response to this that I've largely been seeing is everyone

going, okay, we need a primary of these people. Okay. Are you looking at the rate at which stuff is happening in this country? Like, do you think that we are going to be able to wait until the fucking primaries? Yeah. Six years to seven places, right? Yeah. Until we can like attempt to fucking do shit here.

Like, absolutely not. No, there were like, there literally is, regardless of what you think about electoralism as a strategy, there is literally not time to wait until the next election cycle. Like again, they have defunded the nuke police for the third time. So the opposition to this isn't going to come

from inside of the electoral system, because again, the Democrats are being run by collaborators and there's not enough time to fucking oust them. So if you want this to not continue, you're going to have to find ways to do organizing outside of that system. We have approximately one million episodes about this. You can also go back to my you already know how to organize episode. But yeah.

Look, call your senator if you want to, but if that's the net total of your political activity, then like right now, it's probably not going to make a difference in time. And really consider if it's the most useful use of your time. Yeah. And maybe make some beans or sew something nice for someone instead. Or as well. You could listen to it while you sew something nice.

You could call them while you're cooking your beans. Hell yeah. Well, this is what could happen here. Yeah, down with the collaborationists. Fuck them. Yeah, absolutely fuck them. And fuck these people. Fuck Chuck Schumer in particular.

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