It Could Happen Here - CZM Book Club: Cool Zone 2054: Live From DinoCon 4 in Helsinki

Episode Date: December 15, 2024

Margaret and Jamie report back from DinoCon in the year 2054.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

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Starting point is 00:02:07 Hey everyone, it's John also known as Dr. John Paul, and I'm Jordan or Joe Ho. And we are the BlackFatFilm Podcast, a podcast where all the intersections of identity are celebrated. Oh, chat this year we have had some of our favorite people on including Kid Fury, T.S. Madison, Amber Ruffin from the Amber and Lacey Show, Angelica Ross and more.
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Starting point is 00:03:42 Well, let's find out. Welcome to Cool Zone 2054 Reports from the Dino War. And what do we have from the future? Well, let's find out. Welcome to Cool Zone 2054, reports from the Dino War. I'm your host, Margaret Killjoy, and alongside the rest of the Cool Zone team, we're covering everything World War 3.5. Alongside some of the rest of the team, I spent the past week in Helsinki, Finland, at DinoCon 4. And I'm excited to share with you all what I've learned. But first, this podcast wouldn't even be here if it weren't for our biggest sponsor, the one, the only, Dino Cadence. What started as an avant-garde dinosaur dance troupe soon became the world's premier network
Starting point is 00:04:18 of combat academies. If you're serious about dino riding, you need to get serious about dyno cadence. Admission is free, but spots are limited. So apply today to save the world tomorrow. When the wheels of the ancient 737 hit the runway at Helsinki Vanta, I wasn't the only one to breathe out a sigh of relief. We'd made it. We landed.
Starting point is 00:04:44 We were on the ground. Which is, from sigh of relief. We'd made it. We landed. We were on the ground. Which is, from my point of view, where we belong. You will not catch me riding a pterodactyl and not just because I'm far too old for it. And look, I wasn't worried about the plane falling apart. Ever since the cooperativization of Boeing in 2037, when workers took over the beleaguered company, it's gone from producing the world's least reliable airplanes back to producing some of the world's best. No, I was worried about getting shot out of the sky.
Starting point is 00:05:12 I'd just flown in from free Poland, which meant flying over three different nationalist occupied Baltic States. Every journalist is a war journalist in World War 3.5. The plane, like any post-war retrofit, was equipped for non-electric flight in the case of EMP, but I've been in planes hit by EMPs twice in my life already, and it is never fun. Capable of not crashing is an entirely different thing from comfortable flight.
Starting point is 00:05:41 Our 737 was also equipped with its own Vishnu shield, in case of incoming surface-to-air missiles. But for the past year, of course, nationalist forces in Estonia have had the habit of firing dummy rockets at more or less everything flying anywhere near their airspace. The whole flight, I told myself I was getting too old for this shit, and I tried to distract myself with work like I always do. I caught up on about a week's worth of email and I figured out my DinoCon itinerary. Then we landed and I stepped out into the unseasonably warm Helsinki December air.
Starting point is 00:06:17 Can you even say unseasonably anymore? Does that even mean anything anymore? Like it's like every morning God spins a big spinny wheel with numbers from negative thirty to about a hundred and thirty to determine how hot it's going to be. I guess that only works if you're one of us weird old poor people who can't internally shift to Celsius. Negative thirty to plus fifty? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:06:43 Do your own Celsius math, you metric men. I stepped out into that pleasant air, and we took the train into town, and I looked out the window and I remembered I love Helsinki. And I love my job. And flying is just part of it, and danger is just part of it, and that's okay. It's funny how our conscious mind works to forget danger as soon as it passes. Funny how hard our unconscious mind works to hold on to the memory of fear. But unless you've got that sorophobia, there's nothing to be afraid of at DinoCon besides
Starting point is 00:07:16 having too much fun hanging out with dinosaurs and their riders. Well, I mean, besides the Microraptor incident at DinoCon 2, but that won't happen again, probably. When you first come in through the gates after the security checkpoint that I'm legally required to not tell you about in detail, the first thing you see is Captain Emily Hanford Jr. herself, and of course, her faithful Trigger. That is to say, the most decorated dinosaur and dinosaur rider respectively. Trigger was waving and smiling hair pulled back into that don't fuck with the librarian bun that they single-handedly brought back into style. Their uniform was gleaming with medals from the war, little one-inch buttons from bands
Starting point is 00:08:01 they listened to. Captain Emily Hanford Jr. is of course an ankylosaurus and I've never been able to tell a reptile's mood by looking at its face and I think people who claim they can are lying. But she seemed happy enough and occasionally nuzzled her massive head into Trigger's shoulder for scritches. I wasn't able to catch an interview with Trigger that morning but if you listen to last April's episode, why do we use medals at all in an internationalist army? You can hear me and Mia Wong talk to them at length.
Starting point is 00:08:33 It's mostly just war stories that episode, but you know, they're good stories. It's controversial for internationalist forces to have any sort of mascot soldiers at all, but whatever acclaimed Tr gets, trigger has earned. My first stop at DinoCon 4 was, of course, the swag table. Flash a little cool zone media badge, explain that don't worry, you're not Robert Evans, and no you haven't seen Robert Evans, and no you will not be commenting on the news about Robert Evans, and you are set up with one of the coolest swag bags ever produced. This year, it was a plush Ankylosaurus backpack filled overflowing with
Starting point is 00:09:12 doodads and general promo. A little floaty pen with a pack of raptors chasing away a cartoonish Nazi. A mug that reads, I survived the Dino War so far, but death is inevitable and comes for kings and commoners alike. So really my goal isn't to survive, but to live a full life and live free and or kill fascists for as long as I can. The type is pretty small on the mug, except that Dino War is in big red letters. There was also an edible wristwatch made out of protein plastic.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Look, I know most people say it's safe, but I am just too old to start eating plastic on purpose, plant-based or not. A tiny SD card full of virtual training environments and the latest military games, as well as full scientific documentation on more or less everything on display at the con. And this year, an honest-to- God paperback book called Heliotropum and the Egg that's gonna come out early next year from Helm, that best selling anonymous mononymous collective. I haven't had a chance to read it yet, but the back promises it's, quote,
Starting point is 00:10:19 like nothing Helm has ever produced. And that it will, quote, shake the internationalist world to its core, and that it, quote, isn't just war propaganda we promise. Which is a funny disclaimer, but necessary these days. Us at Cool Zone Media, though, we can't make that disclaimer. We are war propaganda. I mean, for fuck's sake, our founder is General Lichterman herself. All we can promise is that we're honest war propaganda. But frankly, you shouldn't take our word for it.
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Starting point is 00:13:03 Lingerie, topless. I said, yes, please. Because at the center of this murky world is an alleged predator. You know who he is because of his pattern of behavior. He's just spinning the web for you to get trapped in it. He's everywhere and has been everywhere. It's so much worse and so much more widespread
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Starting point is 00:14:33 available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcast, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, everyone. It's John John also known as Dr. John Paul and I'm Jordan or Joe Ho and we are the Black Fat Film podcast. A podcast where all the intersections of identity are celebrated. Oh chat this year we have had some of our favorite people on including Kid Fury, T.S. Madison, Amber Ruffin from the Amber and Lacey Show, Angelica Ross
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Starting point is 00:16:03 what's happening in the tech industry and what could be done to make things better. Listen to Better Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever else you get your podcasts. Check out betteroffline.com. I found out I was related to the guy that I was dating. I don't feel emotions correctly. I am talking to a felon right now and I cannot decide if I like him or not.
Starting point is 00:16:25 Those were some callers from my call-in podcast, Therapy Gecko. It's a show where I take real phone calls from anonymous strangers all over the world as a fake gecko therapist, and try to dig into their brains and learn a little bit about their lives. I know that's a weird concept,
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Starting point is 00:17:38 a Jurassic Park style cane from a bin, complete with faux amber and faux mosquito, and started off towards the biggest monsters. I know we're not supposed to call them monsters, but dear listener, I have been a trans woman for a long time now, and I think like recognizes like. Dinos and trans people, we've got a lot in common. There's a whole 50% of the world population trying to de-extinct us both, but we've got too many teeth and claws and allies and uh... riders, depending on what you're into, for
Starting point is 00:18:11 that 50% to succeed. It's no secret that the various Dino units compete with each other for acclaim and recruits alike. Pterodactyl jockeys think that they're the best because they are the hardest crew to get in with and they sharp-shoot moving objects, well, people, while themselves flying through the air. The Ankylosaurus brigades are certain that they're the best because they've got a real proletarian vibe and interface smoothly with infantry. It's true that the Ankylosaurus brigades have liberated more towns from fascists than any other, because they're the ones who roll in like tanks to capture terrain.
Starting point is 00:18:48 The Rex riders have their whole cowboy vibe, whether they're mounted or not, with ten-gallon hats over their polymer helmets. The Mother Hens don't ride dinosaurs at all, of course. They herd velociraptors the size of, and attitude of, overly aggressive roosters. And the mother hens have got style. John Waters would have loved the mother hens, every one of them copying the quote, armed drag fashion of the first six folks who formed the first velociraptor unit. Then there are the Amazons and their ceratopsian mounts, who are some of the finest and most
Starting point is 00:19:23 feared units in the war. I went past recruitment booth after recruitment booth and talked politely to the press liaisons of each of those units. You can hear those conversations themselves in the extended episodes, which are of course available to paid subscribers, internationalist soldiers and veterans, and anyone in the civilian volunteer corps or your territory's equivalent thereof. But more than anything else, I was there to talk to the newest unit, one with a terrifying claim to fame. I was there to talk to the Dreadnoughts. Their booth was easy to find.
Starting point is 00:19:58 Plain black banners hung vertically like medieval flags. Each of the fighters—please call them fighters not soldiers, wore heavy medieval inspired armor with plain black surcoats over them. Every soldier of every unit proudly bears arms of course, but the dreadnought fighters, they are dripping with weapons. Pistols and grenades and rifles and the occasional saber or labras. Behind their booth was a dreadnoughtus, one of the largest dinosaurs in history and one of the largest dinosaurs in Helsinki.
Starting point is 00:20:31 Though they ride any sauropod, they use the dreadnoughtus as their icon because its name means fears nothing. And the banner over their booth, it reads, "'Join the Dreadnoughts. "'We have the highest mortality rate of any unit in the internationalist army. Their spokesperson, a very short man with a bright pink afro and brighter pink full-plate armor, wore a large pin with their slogan, live fast, kill racists, die young.
Starting point is 00:21:00 That's right. Their claim to fame is that they die a lot. The average Dreadnaught dies on their second engagement. Of the original thousand fighters when the unit was formed in February of this very year, only 112 are still alive and fighting. Their unit though now boasts more than 10,000 fighters. I swear to you World War 3.5 is a war unlike any other in history. I talked with their spokesperson who introduced himself as Lord Glimmer Dark for quite some time. The crux of my questioning was quite simply why? Why advertised based on a high mortality rate?
Starting point is 00:21:45 Half of you listeners are probably wondering the same thing, while the other half of you, well, you probably know the answer in your hearts. Lord Glimmerdark, glim to his friends, answered honestly and at length. There's a whole lot of simple answers and also a long answer. The simple answers are things like, well, some people feel that the closer you push towards death, the more you can feel alive. Or that some people just have a death wish. Or that every fighter in the Dino War lived through a war where a billion people died. And death is so inevitable, and it's better for your mental
Starting point is 00:22:22 health to embrace that. I mean, I have a mug for my swag bag that basically makes that argument. I've built my career on the idea of radical optimism, strategic optimism. I can't encourage any of you to join the dreadnoughts. But oddly, talking to Lord Glimmerdark, I realized, these two positions are not as fundamentally at odds as you might think. The Dreadnoughts are not pushing despair. My position and their position are what the theory heads would call in a dialectic with each other.
Starting point is 00:23:00 Radical optimism and fanatonyalism, as the Gerednaught philosophy is called, can work hand in hand to build a better world, Glimmerdark argues. Thanato-Nihilism is, of course, the long answer to my question. Lord Glimmerdark told me about a text I hadn't read in a good 30 years, a text called We Are All Very Anxious. That piece argues that every era of capitalism has had a dominant affect that is utilized by capitalism to control its opposition. Before the first couple of world wars that affect was misery. Just keep everyone too miserable to rise up. After the wars until around
Starting point is 00:23:43 the turn of the century it was boredom. The early 21st century when that piece was written, it was anxiety. Everyone was too anxious to do something. Then after World War III, it was, as the Thonato nihilism proposes, morbid fascination. This is now the dominant affect of our times. They call it morbidity, though obviously that's a new way of using that word. Everyone was too obsessed with death to rise up, is the argument there. The problem for capitalism, Glim argues, is that each affect of each era can be
Starting point is 00:24:22 utilized as a form of resistance as well. The miserable created the French Revolution. The bored created the countercultures of the 60s. The anxious started the fight for the future of the 2030s. And the morbid, Lord Glimmerdark said, are not afraid to kill Nazis because they're not at all afraid to die. They merely wish for their deaths to have some sense of purpose. Lord Glimmerdark doesn't think that everyone should become dreadnoughts.
Starting point is 00:24:56 Not everyone is going to want to dress like a medieval knight armed with rifle and grenade and ride a titanosaur into battle. They ride the titanosaurs, like the big dinosaurs, it's not a specific dinosaur, it's a type of dinosaur. They ride them because they pack as many as five people onto each mount. No dreadnought dies alone is another one of their slogans. Not everyone is going to want to join the army of the soon to die. Most people want to live.
Starting point is 00:25:24 I know I want to live. I know I wanna live. I do like armor and swords though. I'm hoping a more hopeful batch of medievalists pops up soon in the strange LARP we call this war. When I pushed back against his points, Glimmerdark's deep brown eyes gleamed. Indeed you could say they glimmered, if I'm being honest. I told him my work has always been to work to accept death, but to use it to inspire a strong desire to live,
Starting point is 00:25:53 to fight back against death and killing. Exactly, exactly, he would scream excitedly from time to time, even though I was trying desperately to disagree with the man. It might all be very dialectic, but I've been at this for a very long time, and I don't really, at the end of it all, know what that means. The dreadnaughts seem to have it figured out, though. Or they've got something figured out. What I've figured out, though, is that it's time for another ad break. This podcast is brought to you by our sister podcast on Cool Zone Media.
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Starting point is 00:28:48 I went on a journey deep into the heart of the adult entertainment industry. I really wanted to be a Playboy model. Lingerie, topless. I said, yes, please. Because at the centre of this murky world is an alleged predator. You know who he is because of his pattern of behavior. He's just spinning the web for you to get trapped in it. He's everywhere and has been everywhere.
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Starting point is 00:30:36 Hey everyone, it's Jon, also known as Dr. John Paul, and I'm Jordan or Joe Ho. And we are the BlackFatFilm Podcast podcast a podcast where all the intersections of identity are Celebrated. Oh chat this year. We have had some of our favorite people on including kid fury T.s Madison Amber ruffin from the amber and Lacey show and Jella Carras and more Make sure you listen to the black fat fan podcast on the on the iHeartRadio app, Alpha Podcast or whatever you get your podcast girl.
Starting point is 00:31:06 Ooh, I know that's right. Hi, I'm Ed Zitron, host of the Better Offline Podcast, and we're kicking off our second season digging into how tech's elite has turned Silicon Valley into a playground for billionaires. From the chaotic world of generative AI to the destruction of Google search, Better Offline is're unvarnished and at times unhinged look at the underbelly of tech from an industry veteran with nothing to lose. This season I'm going to be joined by everyone from Nobel-winning economists to the leading journalists in the field, and I'll be digging into why the products you love keep getting worse
Starting point is 00:31:40 and naming and shaming those responsible. Don't get me wrong though, I love technology. I just hate the people in charge and want them to get back to building things that actually do things to help real people. I swear to God things can change if we're loud enough. So join me every week to understand what's happening in the tech industry
Starting point is 00:31:57 and what could be done to make things better. Listen to Better Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever else you get your podcasts. Check out betteroffline.com. I found out I was related to the guy that I was dating. I don't feel emotions correctly. I am talking to a felon right now and I cannot decide if I like him or not. Those were some callers from my call-in podcast, Therapy Gecko.
Starting point is 00:32:22 It's a show where I take real phone calls from anonymous strangers all over the world as a fake gecko therapist and try to dig into their brains and learn a little bit about their lives. I know that's a weird concept, but I promise it's pretty interesting if you give it a shot. Matter of fact, here's a few more examples of the kinds of calls we get on this show. I live with my boyfriend, and I his pizzeria in our apartment.
Starting point is 00:32:48 I collect my roommates toenails and fingernails. I have very overbearing parents. Even at the age of 29, they won't let me move out of their house. So if you want an excuse to get out of your own head and see what's going on in someone else's head, search for Therapy Gecko on the iHeart radio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It's the one with the green guy on it. And we're back. After my time talking with the Dino units, I decided to head
Starting point is 00:33:24 over to the little out-of-the-way, forgotten drone fighter corner. Everyone likes to think the war on drones is over and done. But that ignores the endless work put in by those unsung heroes, the engineers. Under the big war, the Dino War, there's another war. The drone war. The secret war. It's still going on. There's an arms race still happening. The other side builds new EMP shielding and gets some murder drone in past a Vishnu shield. So engineers on our side rush to
Starting point is 00:33:58 upgrade their EMPs and then our side builds new shielding and gets murder drones past their shields. And so on and so on forever. Without the drone fighters, the people fighting against the drones, we'd be back into the horrors of World War III instead of, I suppose, living in the horrors of World War 3.5. Still, I had a nice visit with the engineers of the California Cooperative, many of whom traveled all the way from Silicon Valley to show off some of the products they've been developing for the rank and file soldiers of the Dino War. This year, the latest trend is single-use wearables.
Starting point is 00:34:35 Most likely to save the most lives, there's the Crab with two Bs. It's a belt-mounted Vishnu shield that automatically activates when it detects any autonomous drone within its range, which is currently 10 meters, but they're expecting to get it out to 50 meters by next summer. That difference matters, of course. With a 10 meter shield, you need just about one for every soldier. With a 50 meter shield, you could get away with one per squad. I asked the spokesperson for California Cooperative why the product was called the crab and with usual Jen Beans attitude they told me,
Starting point is 00:35:11 yeah well I guess it sounds cool. Which look, I know I'm old and grouchy, but that's sort of what you'd expect to hear from someone from a generation that decided to call itself Jen Beans. That's the most get off my lawn thing I'll probably say all podcast. I managed to always do at least one get off my lawn you dang kids, every podcast I try not to. I want you to know that. I want you to know how hard I try. Besides the crab, the new hot item is the goosey.
Starting point is 00:35:44 It's spelled like goose but with two of every letter. I did not bother to ask why it's called the goosey, nor why it's spelled that way. It's a wristwatch basically, and it even functions as one until it detects incoming drones, at which point it activates a two meter shield. Like the crab, it's single use. Also like the crab though, the goosey saves data about the attack. And if you return to the California Cooperative, they'll extract the data to build better systems in the future, and return it to you recharged and ready to save your life again.
Starting point is 00:36:18 If you don't bother to return it, it's still an analog wristwatch after it's used up its single charge. They gave me one, which is sweet, because even though I'll never actually be on the front lines at my age, the thing is that kind of everywhere is the front lines now. And it's even more useful than my new edible wristwatch that I will never eat. Maybe I'll give the edible one to someone from Jen Beans. I'm skeptical about these single-use personal shields. Drone fighters have struggled with the same problem for ten years now. Everyone thinks
Starting point is 00:36:50 that drones are over, nothing to be worried about. Why lug around a wristwatch or a belt-mounted object you assume you'll never use? Soldiers are famous for ditching everything they see as dead weight. But still, the drone fight goes on, and the unsung heroes keep building new machines. It was mid-afternoon by that point, and the day was coming to a close for me. I was grateful for my John Hammond cane, the one I'd prefer to pretend I don't need, but I quite obviously do. I'd say the sun was setting if I'd been anywhere further south than fucking Helsinki. The sun had gone down hours prior at that point.
Starting point is 00:37:29 I went outside, passed the protests, and got into a pedicab to take me back to my hotel, where I wrote this and now I'm recording it because the podcast minds never stop. And now I'll pass it over to my comrade, cowork-worker, and friend Jamie Loftus for what she saw and did today. And before you write Cool Zone Media complaining about the air horn noises, please take note that Jamie formally changed her name to include the air horn noises or the party popper emoji when written 10 years ago now. And you can stop writing us to complain about it.
Starting point is 00:38:03 Take it up with her or just, you know, accept it. Well, I don't know what the rest of you were doing inside the convention, because there was clearly plenty going on just outside the gates. And I don't mean the street vendors, though their food was better than the food court anyway. I mean the protest organized by Dino D, denizens interested in not
Starting point is 00:38:26 oppressing dinosaurs. And if you think they didn't know there's a little wink and a nudge going on every time someone hears the name Dino D, well then you don't know modern activists too well. And look, the name is a little problematic considering the allegations of impropriety currently levied against Dino D's discredited director David Dorson. Jen Bean's love of alliteration is just too catchy and I'm not sorry. But the thing is, David wasn't there. About 40 protesters have been camped outside DinoCon for the past two weeks, passing out leaflets and holding signs and continuing the anemic chanting that has plagued certain social movements since basically forever.
Starting point is 00:39:10 I wanted to like the signs, but they weren't much better than the chanting. Besides the ubiquitous, friends don't take friends to die in war, there was Dino War equals dinos no more and free the dinos. And then there was one gal, maybe 40 years old, with one of those beanies with a tail that went down to her knees, you know the kind I'm talking about, whose sign read, I think dinosaurs are cute and I don't like when they get shot and so they shouldn't be in war. I spent most of the morning talking with the activists, most of whom expressed a disinterest
Starting point is 00:39:45 in being conflated with Dino D, despite admitting Dino D called for the protest. Kind of like how vegans didn't want to be associated with PETA back when I was young and the world was new. The protesters outside DinoCon have a pretty diverse range of opinions, from the dinosaurs are our friends angle to the newfangled nihilist philosophical critique that using dinosaurs as the modern mascot of war undermines our strategic efficacy. I couldn't tell you if that's true or not. A woman who only gave her name as Beth Burt told me that, well, let's see, she wouldn't let me record her
Starting point is 00:40:23 voice but she did let me write it down word for word. So she told me, quote, let's see, she wouldn't let me record her voice, but she did let me write it down word for word. So she told me, quote, the moral crux of the internationalist cause is that you cannot make a better or even more stable world by resorting to evil in the process. You cannot resort to the evils of nationalism. You cannot resort to the evils resurrecting dead tissue or synthesizing human and animal. Then why should we bring animals back from extinction just to use them on the field of battle? These are living creatures with complex emotions and complex social structures, and we use them as living tanks. We use them as bullet sponges. It's not right." There were only two conflicts I saw the whole morning. First, a man, I kid you not, he was wearing a fedora, came over holding a
Starting point is 00:41:17 re-extinctionist sign that read, Let the dead stay dead. Dinos are fuel, not friends. With that little re-extinctionist logo at the bottom, the one with the upside down stegosaurus. He tried to join the crowd and was roundly kicked out. Then less than 20 minutes later, a unit of new Amazons came out of the convention, easily distinguishable by having only one breast each. Some with breasts removed, some with breasts added, depending. There's a video you can watch if you'd like, but the whole thing just makes me sad. Two women at the front started shouting the names of their centrosauruses that had fallen in battle, whom they mourned, and whose contributions to the internationalist cause they thought
Starting point is 00:42:00 were being erased by the protesters. And while I'm on the subject of the food court, was I on the subject of the food court? If I were on the subject of the food court, I would tell you that the Helsinki Street Fair is rockin'. And by that, I mean the Somali Finnish food. For anyone who didn't know, and how could you not, Somali immigrants make up the largest African group
Starting point is 00:42:23 in Finland and have been embedded into Finnish culture for generations. And that means you can get Sambusas pretty much everywhere. And that includes right outside of DinoCon. It could happen here as a production of Cool Zone Media. For more podcasts from Cool Zone Media, visit our website, CoolZoneMedia.com or check us out on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts. You can find sources for It Could Happen here, updated monthly, at CoolZoneMedia.com slash sources.
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