It Could Happen Here - CZM Rewind: How To Build A Revolution: Myanmar, Part One

Episode Date: July 23, 2026

Part one of a five part series on Myanmar’s spring revolution. James and Robert document the first year of Myanmar’s revolution through the stories of its participants. Music for this series was provided by Rebel Riot, check out their Bandcamp here: https://therebelriot.bandcamp.com/album/one-day Original Air Date: 11.7.22See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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before the noise of the day takes over. So let's start our days together with a moment of calm that's just for you. Listen to waking up with Ryan on the Iheart radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. In 2020, millions of Americans took to the streets to protest police violence. They were met with police violence on a massive scale. Shootings, vehicle attacks, and assassinations occurred alongside these protests, often in defense of the police. And in total, at least 25 Americans died.

We now know that President Trump repeatedly urged General Mark Millie to deploy U.S. military forces to crack down violently on demonstrations. Millie claims that Trump told him to have his soldiers crack skulls, beat the fuck out of, and just shoot protesters. In the end, we were all lucky. Military leaders, including General Millie, resisted calls to use their men to suppress domestic dissent. National Guard were called in to police several major cities, but in many cases, their behavior, was tame compared to the militarized police who more reliably shot and beat protesters. For millions of Americans, 2020 was their first exposure to the violence

the state will do to avoid change. And then, Trump lost the election. He and his followers tried to carry out a coup but failed, for now, and millions of Americans who'd taken to the streets mostly went back to their lives. Some were satisfied justice had been done. Others were furious to have stopped short of instituting real change.

But at the end of the day, business went on as usual. A version of normal prevailed. In 2021, the military of Myanmar, known as the Totmada, overthrew the elected government in a coup. Hundreds of thousands of citizens, most of them young, Jin Z and millennial men and women, took to the streets. Police responded with tear gas, water cannons, and eventually bullets. The international community expressed its horror at the brutality of the Totmada, But that's all they did. Over the course of several months, the military pushed protesters mostly out of the cities, and a protest movement against the military coup turned into a civil war.

Now those same protesters, mostly kids who wanted nothing more than a normal life, have become revolutionaries. With homemade guns, 3D-printed rockets, and stolen rifles, they battle to Todmadaw. Some of them fight in the jungles, some of them fight in the cities, and some of them fight on the internet. This is their story. We're sitting in a large suburban home in Mysot, Thailand, a small city on the border of Myanmar.

The boys singing and playing music around us range in age from 17 to 22. Their existence in Thailand is a crime. If they are caught here, they'll be forced to cross the border, into Myanmar, whose government executed their friends and sold the organs for profit. But tonight, they're playing music. We're drinking beer. Later, James Stout and I will play pool with them and get them. get our asses just catastrophically wrecked.

We met Andy, age 22 and head of the family, for his Instagram page. That's not his real name, but for obvious reasons, we can't identify him. We first met when I sent him a DM asking we could buy one of his photos for our first series on Myanmar. He was a bit skeptical, but I tried my best to get him to see we just wanted to give him money and promote his work. Over the next six months or so, we weren't from talking on the phone to messaging almost every day, to Robert and I booking tickets to Thailand, to sitting on the top floor of their house. It used to be his landlord's office,

but now it's home to Andy and his partner, Sarah. That's also not her real name, because she's a citizen of a Western nation working in Thailand. The boys we talk about are his brothers, his cousin, and friends. They live at a small building across a garden, and in the daytime, they sit under a gazebo and play their guitars. The first night we met Andy and Sarah, We sat behind a bar in an unpaved alleyway.

We drank beer out of sippy cups because selling beer is still banned at the local COVID regulations but apparently the cops don't check sippy cups. We drank far too much in fact and the next day I woke up with a headache and a blurry photo of me, Robert and Andy engaged in a pose which was half hug

and half mutual support structure. We walked home and according to my phone at some point we took photos of a puppy and in hopefully unrelated incident at some point I started bleeding. It was immediately obvious that Andy needed the chance to blow off some steam. Over the last year in change, he has chronicled every stage of the coup in its aftermath. In early videos, we see joyous protests, moments of resistance and splendor in the streets of cities like Miawadi.

Later, we see violence, death, and guerrilla warfare. Andy didn't have what you were called an easy childhood. thanks in part to Myanmar's long history of revolutions being crushed by the army. People there, like people everywhere, want to be free and determine their own futures. And so each generation has its own uprising. And each generation has its own massacre and very little progress to show for it. I was born in 2000. So when I was seven, 2007, there was a revolution.

It's called Safran Revolution. It wasn't like this. You know, it wasn't like what happened now. but like there were a lot of people that were involved in it, a lot of people got killed. And a lot of people left Myanmar and came to the refugee camps in here. And we were one of the families that came to the refugee camps. In Mysat. Yeah, in Maasat, yeah.

Andy's mother is Buma, the dominant ethnic group in Myanmar, due to their decades-long control of the military and government. His father is Corinne, the ethnic group once used by the British government as soldiers. Since 1949, the Corinne have fought a war in the mountains against the Totmadaw. Their name is often anglicized to be spelled just like the English name, Karen, which, given present internet trends, makes explaining the conflict sometimes awkward. Andy primarily identifies as, and was raised, Bama. His family left after the Saffron Revolution.

They did not flee to escape political repression, but because the economy had collapsed. This put them in an awkward position in the camps, which were filled mostly with Corinne people. who had fled state violence. We weren't refugees, right? We were more like, how do you say, like economic refugees? You know, we go because, not because our village has been burned down and our family has been killed, you know?

So then if we were to go back to Yangon, we still could find a job, we still could find, you know. But then for these current people, like, this place is the only place that they could exist at that moment, right? And probably still now too. So, yeah, so they said that, but that education wasn't very good there. The life wasn't good. You know, it wasn't, it was very bad.

Honestly, it was very bad. It was a lot of violence, a lot of hate, a lot of understandable, you know, like these people have gone through so much shit and so much trauma that and nothing, no one is coming there to, but fix that. So they had a lot of anger. They had a lot of problems. But my mom said, yeah, we're going back because the education is very bad. If you go back to Myanmar, at least, you know, if you do, like, the thing that people do,

maybe you'll get somewhere, yeah, in the future. Here, there's no future. That's what she said. So we went back. And I stayed in Myanmar for like four years. Andy had never been very political. His family was more or less neutral, tending to side with the military more often than not out of a sense of inertia.

Myanmar tended to cartwheel between attempts at democracy and military dictatorship. So when the world media celebrated their first day, Democratic elections in 25 years in 2015, Andy was not particularly excited. Yeah, so, I mean, we did realize that there was a change in the country, right? Because we grew up in the military to take your ship. But then when Hontentan Svi took over, took over, there were some changes. Like the phones got cheaper, the Internet got cheaper. And if you look back, then you can see big, big changes.

But the thing is, it was never real democracy. And I think a lot of people in the Western countries thought that it was democracy when Al-San Suu Kyi took over. Onsang Suu Kyi came to prominence during a 1988 uprising against the military, which ended in bloodshed in the streets of Yangon. And she'd been a long-time democratic activist. As Andy noted, Westerners celebrated her election as the first Democratic head of state for Myanmar. She even won a Nobel Prize. But the agreement her party had made with the military gave the general significant permanent control over the government. But I think most of the people in the country knew it wasn't real democracy.

Because, you know, the military always had 25% seat, 25 seats in the parliament, right? Like, they were always, they were in charge of electricity, all these big things, weapons, army, like the military itself. They are in charge of all these things. And they make it very clear. And even with a Nobel Prize, on Song Suu, she did not fight to stop the top madaw from pursuing their decades-long wars against the ethnic armed organizations in the hills, nor did she act to stop their ethnic cleansing of the Rohingya people. In fact, she and others in her party didn't even call them Rohingya. They called them

Bengali and insisted they were illegally residing in Myanmar, despite mountains of evidence documenting a group by that name living in what is now the Rakhine state. I think most Americans, and Westerners in general, can empathize with the feeling of electing someone who promises change and then getting very little of what you'd expected. I think Al-San Suu Kyi used to be this hope that that was like the opposition against the military. But I think when she got power, she couldn't do all the things that she promised to do. Or like, you know, we looked at her before we looked at her as something, you know,

something hope for everyone, for, you know, for all the ethnic groups and for everyone in the country. But then when she became empowered, she mainly focused all these changes for the Bama people. Well, you know, the mainland people, like, the military was still fucking killing people

and killing ethnic groups. Did they do something? You know, like, so then for the ethnic groups, what's the difference? And so, while Andy was hopeful that his country might take a better path, he was not exactly convinced that things were going to get better. Conflict within his family,

eventually pushed him to make the decision to leave. My dad was very abusive. He would be the shit out of my mouth every day like that. It was fine. Like, it was fine when we were younger. We couldn't do anything. You know, we just kind of watched it, right? But the older we got, the more we involved,

the more we try to stop it. But then we would fight with him too, you know, and that. So at some point, it became too much. And so I left my home, I think, in 2016, just by myself. And I was like, I've been to mess out. I will go back here, you know. So Andy lived across the border, on his own for more than five years. He'd fallen in love, gotten a home of his own,

and set himself up in the sort of odd jobs you can do without papers or legal residency. And that's where things were for him when the Taughtmaidaugh carried out their coup in early 2021. 2001 February 1st, I was in Messoud. I was here. And yeah, in the morning I woke up called me my girlfriend. And she said, the military just did a coup in your country. you should call your family. The military claimed voter fraud and used that as the pretext to stay in power.

It's a situation that should be unsettlingly familiar to most of our audience. For a while, Safan Me sought, Andy watched it in horror as he texted with friends and family across the border. They arrested Altsin Tsuchi and all the big leaders right at the top. So we were kind of like, okay,

is someone going to tell us what to do? And especially for us, we didn't have any experiences. We didn't know anything about any of this. that I'm talking about right now. I didn't have any knowledge of that. But yeah, so after, I think, six-day, the military cut off the internet, like, for like two days.

And I've lost all contact with everyone inside. My family, my friends. And that's the night I started planning it. Like, I started thinking, oh, fuck, I should go back. And, like, and I saw the protest photos from Yangon. They looked amazing, right? And I'm like, I'm a photographer. I should be there and, you know, document that.

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When the coup started, Amira, age 17, had just finished high school. She was looking forward to university and more pressingly looking forward to playing futsal with her friends. She liked to spend her days crafting, she says, making little things to gift or to keep. Like every other day, when she woke up, she spent 10 minutes in medication before facing the world on the 1st of February. Aung San Suu Kyi was her hero, she says. In our interview, her boyfriend translated for her. We'll get to their story later.

But when the coup began, they lived a world apart, but they joined their whole generation in feeling enraged by Tatmador trying to rip the freedom their parents had fought. for from them. Amira took her rage into the street. Someone gave her a bullhorn. Because of her voice and then she became the leader, you know, with the... Yeah, the bullhorn. Yeah. What kind of stuff would you say to the bull through the bullhorn? Oh, she's saying this is an auntie. She's saying this is an And then... This is what? The arresting of Osan Suji is an unfail.

Not fair. Oh, okay. Oh, got you, got you. Yeah, yeah, okay. Yeah. And then she believed that... She believed in what the Osang Suu said. Like, everything is possible.

And then we haven't do anything. We haven't studied yet. But when we studied, and then we can finish it, so everything is possible. So that's what she believes in. So she went on the road and then she protests. Across the city from Amira on Kuday, Miao's girlfriend woke him up with the news that the government they'd voted for had been arrested. We're calling him Miaoq here because that's his name in the revolution.

Everyone has one. Amira's his baby because she's so young, yet so fierce. meowk, if you're wondering, means monkey. These revolutionaries who have risked life and limb for each other didn't know the legal names of the people they call their revolution family because it's safer that way. And we don't either. Meowk had spent the night.

Well, I'll let you hear how we phrased it, actually. I was just like, I was chilling with my eighth care friend. I was chilling and we were, you know, Nuffles and Chay. Netflix and Che. Like 31 January, Netflix and Che. I think it's a Sunday. I think it's Sunday. Netflix and Chee and we sleep together.

If you didn't catch that, they were Netflix and chilling. You know, I was literally not waked by any louder show. I was so asleep. But at the 4 a.m., there's a phone ring. And I suddenly wake her. There's phone ring from my girlfriend. Her auntie called, call, call her. And she says,

There's a cool of feet. Oh, and she woke her, she told me, there's a cool dog, I didn't, you know, I don't believe it. I don't believe it. I didn't believe it. So other than I chat the social media. Oh, shit. Oh, me only accurately do this. And I'm so angry and I'm so angry.

You know, I was going down, downstairs and I told to my family, there's a good of it. Everyone's angry. And at those times, the internet they cut off. The next revolutionary we're going to meet is a fellow will call Dr. Wonder, because that's his revolution name. When the coup started, he was just waking up after a 24-hour shift at the hospital in Yangon where he worked. Doctors were some of the earliest and most visible dissidents in the protest. Their rarity, and therefore their relative value to the regime, made them a potent symbol of the pro-democracy movement. But, as Dr. Wonder made clear, many older medical professionals

I'm not at all certain that resistance was a right move here. At the morning, I saw the news. That bad news, really, really bad news for us. Because, how could I say that? They broke, you know? They broke our future. Doctors were some of the earliest, most visible dissidents in the pro-democracy protests. Their rarity and relative value to the regime

made them a potent symbol of the pro-democracy movement. But as Dr. Wonder made clear, many older medical professionals were not at all certain that resistance was a right move. On that morning, we go back to our society, our hospital. We, our Zen guys, you know, all professors, all concerneders, they did not much interest about that. Because they told us, you know, whoever, rules our country. It's not our business. It is one of our seniors doctors from our society for our department. Who does like that? But we replied him, no, it should be last time. If didn't catch that, he said it should be the last time. The last time kids had to die in the streets. They didn't want

another generation to have to go through the same thing. So they got together a proposal, a sort of manifesto, for peaceful non-violent resistance, and they submitted it to their seniors. We negotiated with our, you know, young resident, our society, and we discussed about that, and we plan to start with one of our prior movement before severe disableness. We have got a red-reporn movement.

Because we want to try peacefully on the media. We started like that. dead. And then some of our seniors from our society, they were from Mandalay Hospital. Okay, they accept our proposal. Yes, because our generation has already passed that difficulties before. But not your generation, shouldn't accept that. Three days before the coup, T.K. got off a plane in San Francisco. He's from Myanmar, but he lives in the Bay Area now. Before you ask, he says that the Burmese restaurant there is not as good as stuff back home.

It's only three days. Fuck, man, three days before. Three days before. I went back to the United States, and I wish I stayed in the Yangon, and doing the revolution, and I participate in everywhere that I can. But I couldn't do from the long distance, you know. So that's all I can do for now. TK had just been in Myanmar.

He had connections to many people on the ground there. His friends were there. His family were there. When the government cut off internet access, he remained able to get good international reporting on the situation in his home country. Slowly, he found ways to communicate with his friends and a growing core of the protesters taking to the streets.

I was a keyboard fighter. I have no idea about the politics. I have no idea about the military stuff. This is the single most common sentiment we've heard, across all the revolutionaries we've met. None of them considered themselves to be very political prior to the coup. They started marching in the street because a military coup was obviously bad, but they stayed there because the violence dished out by the state was so horrific. Safe at their house in Maysock, we talked to the boys and his brothers and cousins.

all of whom were living in Napador when the coup kicked off. It didn't take him long to try and join them. Then I went in, I went to Nyowdi, which is across the border in Myanmar side. And I was there for a week. And it was something else. Like, I've never been to protest. I've never been involved in any of this thing. And I never thought I would be.

You know, like, I don't know. I always thought, like, I wasn't going to be a part of it. But when I went there, the first day I arrived, there were 200, thousand people on the street protesting. And then it's like, and this big group of people walk in streets after street and everyone coming out of their house. And we have this symbol, like three fingers from hangar gang, I think. Yeah.

Yeah. So that's like our symbol for democracy now, our movement now. And everyone come out of their house doing that. And, you know, like giving us water, food, everything. It was beautiful. Like it was something else. It was something else. And then from that day, I was like, hook.

I was like, okay, this is what I'm going to do now. I'm going to be a photographer and I'm going to end this, you know, and I'm going to take photo of these people and their stories and I'm going to share it. And that's my part. That's my rule. Soon, he found friends among the protesters. Within a few days, he was feeling a feeling that so many people felt in 2020.

It's a feeling you felt if you've ever been in the thick of a crowd of people filled with righteous anger and facing down overwhelmed police or soldiers. It's a sensation I can't really describe you. You haven't experienced it, but I can say that there's no time that I've ever felt more empowered than the times I've been crushed shoulders to shoulder with strangers, toe to toe with state violence, and watch cops break and retreat. It's incredible, it's addictive, and if I'm honest, it's probably why Robert and I booked a flight to visit a stranger I've been DMing on the ground.

I think after three days, I met this group of people, young people, like students, trying to be lawyers and stuff. And I figured out that they were the ones trying to organize these big protests, like 200 people, 100,000 people. They were the ones that's making that happen. So I started kind of following them, trying to get close because I wanted to get stories from them. And then they became, and they realized what I've been doing. They've been watching.

So they were like very welcome And they took me to this hideout that they go to And then we will have discussions, medians about what we should do the next day But then Because it's a small town right Slowly I think police and military Started realizing that we are that group too

I'm going to be more crazy type When we marcha show no Oh You're going to Yeah So by now you're probably wondering what that cover of dust in the wind in hearing is. It's a song the boys learned when they first took to the streets,

but it tells the story of a previous revolution, one that didn't succeed. That's pretty good, guys. Yeah. Can you tell us what that song's about? Like, do you know what the lyrics are and stuff in Englishmen? Yeah, yeah, we can try. I heard the word democracy in there, I'm pretty sure.

Yeah. It's like all the lives that were lost in here. fighting for too much of the people use it for the spring revolution as well as 88 yeah yeah because it's the same thing you can use it come on a too yo look yo yeah till the world and that's the name of that song tell the world it's called yeah like till the world so basically the song is like yeah they sang it in it back in the 88 and then it's like we used it quite a lot when the when we were in the protest too um Yeah, and the laris are, we'll keep fighting until the end of the world

For the sake of history and revolution in our blood And of the fallen heroes who fought for the democracy Oh, our dearest heroes, this is the land of, like, heroes Like, yeah And, yeah, it goes on and then, yeah, basically saying, like, something, like, the history went wrong along the way, but we have to fix it. Yeah. Like the country has shut his blood and how could they commit such violence to its own people, you know? Yeah. And yeah, like they say, like the blood on the rows and the streets are not dried yet. And for the sake of these people who have died for democracy, for fighting for democracy, for the sake of them, we have to keep fighting.

Now, in their exile, they keep singing it to remember the first day of the revolution, when the fights were in the street, not the jungle, and before they lost so many of their comrades. Yeah, and then that was the night protest in front of the police station. Pendles, yeah. Oh, they're singing the song they're the same. Yeah. It got very, very heated. The protests our friends were just talking about occurred in me hourly, but the song popped up all across

a country. When you played it? Yeah, they, in Yango, it wasn't one guitar, it was a whole band. Yeah. We'll be have like protesters sitting down and then there's a group of people who are playing this and repeatedly there are a bunch of songs that will play and then there's like words that we would say and yeah like slogan like that. Yeah. Do you know, yeah? I don't know. I don't know. And you'll see from the third. And you'll see from the footage how it's yeah yeah how did it make you feel singing it now it's scary you know it's like yeah the song uh the song is very real so like at first um um we didn't want to play the song it's too dark it's too um it's too intense right yeah like yeah but it's not like the lovers are

they're like you can see it you know it's like because we go we've been through it too so it's very intense and yeah I think the first time I heard it like I heard the song and I remember that we're feeling of yeah still have it like every time we're saying it now like this is not one of the songs that we usually sing like it's not a fun song but yeah On the next episode, which you'll be able to download tomorrow, we'll talk about how the hunter began to clamp down on the protests and how the protesters decided this struggle was too important to abandon and decided to fight back.

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