It Could Happen Here - Executive Disorder: ICE at Airports, New DHS Secretary, Iran Negotiations

Episode Date: March 27, 2026

The gang discuss Trump’s deployment of ICE to more than a dozen airports, OpenAI shutting down its AI generated video app, continuing negotiations with Iran to end the war, and DHS Sec Mullin’s comments during confirmation hearings. Sources: https://x.com/Holden_Culotta/status/2034419794099777620?s=20 https://www.semafor.com/article/03/18/2026/fbi-investigates-national-security-aide-who-resigned-over-war https://abcnews.com/Politics/pentagon-plans-national-guard-dc-2029-2-us/story?id=131234530 https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/business/digital/openai-shutting-down-sora-ai-video-app-1236546187/ https://x.com/cspan/status/2036514340896121179?s=20 https://x.com/atrupar/status/2036105325326016658?s=20 https://x.com/atrupar/status/2036083777164775452 https://x.com/atrupar/status/2036253584090685709?s=20 https://thehill.com/policy/transportation/5799345-ice-deployment-tsa-criticism/ https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/24/us/tsa-data-ice-deportation-san-francisco-airport.html https://punchbowl.news/archive/32326-am/ https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116275668825285445 https://x.com/RapidResponse47/status/2036511652275703864?s=20 https://www.nytimes.com/2026/03/24/us/gregory-bovino-border-patrol.html https://x.com/atrupar/status/2031414203920077123 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j0Fh_K2gxDA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fW9E2zneDg https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/18/politics/mullin-confirmation-hearing-senate-paul-dhs https://x.com/atrupar/status/2036510924173963558?s=20 https://archive.ph/SmBos https://archive.vn/Xg3zP#selection-717.162-717.174  https://www.cnbc.com/2026/03/25/iran-war-us-trump.html  https://www.cnbc.com/2026/03/23/trump-iran-war-power-plants-energy-infrastructure-middle-east.html  https://time.com/article/2026/03/25/trump-peace-proposal-us-iran-war-israel-pakistan/  https://www.reuters.com/business/energy/indias-reliance-buys-5-million-barrels-iranian-oil-after-us-waiver-sources-say-2026-03-24/  https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c1450zj6n48o  https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cgrzr9ynpn1o  https://www.cnbc.com/2026/03/23/oil-prices-trump-iran-strait-of-hormuz-wti-crude-middle-east-lng-gas.html  https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/white-house/trump-gets-daily-video-montage-briefing-iran-war-rcna263912  https://www.channelnewsasia.com/asia/thai-tanker-strait-hormuz-iran-6015671See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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That's Sophie Lichten. Also, Mia Wong. Robert Evans. I'm Garrison Davis. That's right. This episode, recovering the week of March 18 to March 25th. Speaking of AI, Open AI is announced they are shutting down their AI

generated video app SORA. As a result, the Disney deal has fell through. Disney's no longer going through with the $1 billion investment and character licensing deal with OpenAI. According to the Hollywood reporter. I know our audience is full of a lot

of big SORA heads, and I'm sure this is some tough news. The SORA community is taking hits. Yeah. It's okay. You can still play Sora in Smash Ultimate. You can recover, I believe in you all. There's a video game character named Sora too, huh? The key blade will still be there.

I didn't get into those games. Actually, also a Disney franchise. Also licensed through Disney, yeah. Great. Great stuff. Well, I found this very funny, in part because, like,

when Sora came out, there was this, like, burst of enthusiasm for, like, soon we'll just be generating our own movies and TV. You won't need Hollywood. But then it turned out that you can't actually, like, do, like, even if you want to make stuff with Sora, like, even if you wanted to include, like, clips of it to like help augment other films you were making. And there were a couple of filmmakers

who tried to do this. You could summon critical ways where they were like, well, you know, I can use like pieces of storage generated video to like illustrate this point I went to about AI. Well, you couldn't actually use like SORA footage and anything that you wanted to like sell to Netflix or Amazon or like whoever are put in a theater because like the terms of use basically did not allow it because of how much risk you were at of getting sued for, you know, utilizing other people's shit, content other people made, OpenAI was not willing to indemnify the users. Adobe has a similar, like, slop AI video generation machine that does indemnify, like, users of the content they make, and that is still going.

Yeah. So I think that was kind of, like, one of the key issues here is just that, like, you can't actually do anything with your SOROC clips. Yeah, I mean, this doesn't mean it's going to lead to the end of AI generated video on social media. Lord no. Unfortunately. This is a movement that Open AI is making towards business to business sales and away from this direct-to-consumer application. It's still an interesting move. The fact that Disney's breaking off the deal, also interesting. It's exact ramifications for Open AI and like AI-generated video in the long run. Still, still unclear. Yeah, I also just want to

mention that like obviously the other reason they're doing this is that this stuff is hideously expensive. Like, yeah, a lot of money to generate this stuff. Unfathomable amounts of money are just being lit on fire. I listen to everything ever written by our friend and colleague Ed Zitron. If you want to know how much money is being lit on fire by this bullshit. But yeah. Yep. A few other small news stories.

The U.S. Army has raised its maximum enlistment age to 42. And the Pentagon is planning to maintain National Guard president. since in Washington, D.C., through the entirety of Trump's second term. In a special election Tuesday night, the Dems flipped Trump's own state house district in Florida, Palm Beach County. Trump won this district by 11 points in the 2024 election as Tuesday Democrat Emily Gregory won by two points, nearly a 14-point swing. Are we going to point out how he voted in that election? Vote by mail.

But it's okay because the Florida system is safe and secure. Yeah. Also, I want to point out this is more vindication of the Mia of the Mia blue tsunami theory that this is going to be a 2008 style blowout if they're losing fucking Mara Lago for two points. Yeah, I try not to predict how the fucking bigger elections are going to go anymore. Yeah, it's it's so hard. But it's not, you wouldn't call it a good sign for the Republicans. This is not a good sign for Republicans. Even though only like 33,000 people voted in this election, it is still interesting data.

Yeah, you would think, again, that he would have more of a lock on his backyard. But also, why would he have thought about it? Like, I go back and forth and people are like, well, if they were going to steal an election, wouldn't they have done the one in Mar-a-Lago? Probably not. Nah. Probably wouldn't have thought to do it. Probably would have figured they don't need to.

The FBI is investigating former director of the National Counterterrorism Center Joe Kent for allegedly leaking classified information. And this investigation predates his resignation last week. In an interview with Tucker Carlson last week, Kent implied Israel may have been involved in the killing of Charlie Kirk and that the FBI stopped Kent's investigation into this quote-unquote linkage. Oh, my God. Yeah, man, Israel killed Charlie Kirk. That's why there haven't been any other people on the right who have complained about Trump's aiding and abetting Israeli war crimes. Like, no other conservatives have been pissed about the invasion of Iran.

Just Charlie Kirk. He was the lone anti-Semite. The only... He was the only one. Charlie Kirk was the Golden Dome, single-handedly. Stopping Trump. Yeah, no. It's just a silly idea.

For our first big story, let's talk about airports. Everyone's favorite way to spend five to who knows however... Impossible to say. An impossible about. Oh, God. No way to know. DHS has been shut down for over a month now, and more than 400 TSA agents have quit

after being left without pay, while ICE agents continued to receive paychecks through last year's big, beautiful bill. This past weekend, Trump announced ICE would be deployed to airports to assist TSA during the shutdown. By Monday morning, ICE agents had been sent to airports

in Atlanta, Chicago, Cleveland, Houston, Fort Myers, New Orleans, Philadelphia, Phoenix, Pittsburgh, San Juan, Newark, and the two New York airports. Interestingly, come Monday, when ICE was spotted, they were not wearing masks, which seems to go against agency claims that masks are for protecting agents against so-called doxing. That morning, Trump trothed, quote, I'm a big proponent of ICE wearing masks as they search for and are forced to deal with, hardened criminals. I would greatly appreciate, however, no masks, in all caps, when helping our country out of the Democrat-caused mess at the airports,

etc. Thank you. Later on Monday, Trump was asked whose idea it was to send ICE to airports, and he had this fascinating response. Mine. That was mine. That was mine. That was like the paperclip. You know the story of the paperclip? 182 years ago, a man discovered the paperclip. It was so simple. And everybody that looked at it say, why didn't I think of that? Ice was my idea. I called, first person I called was Tom Holman. I said, what do you think?

He said, I think it's great. Then I saw it today there was some masks on. I didn't think the masks were appropriate. I put out a statement and I asked them, would it be possible to take off the mask? Because they should wear a mask when they're dealing with the murderers and the thugs left in, let into our guys.

Discovered the paper clip. Discovered the paper clip? Every now and then you get a little hint about his media diet, it's just fascinating. Discover the paper clip is one of the most beautiful things I've ever heard. It's insane. Somebody told him a little story about like, well, you know, the person who went into the paperclip and Trump just kind of ran with it, that's got to be it, right?

Yeah. It's like the paperclip exists as like a platonic form, like existing in the, as like a piece of truth. Someone shizzled it out of a piece of granite, the first paperclip and was like, yes, I've done it. It's like 40K shit where like the theory is that all technology has already been invented. So if you invent a technology, you're discovering it again. The dark age of technology gave us the paperclip.

And it is actually heresy to invent a new kind of paperclip or other way to attach papers together. Now, in less funny news, also on Monday, Trump confirmed that ICE would be arresting people at airports. We see ICE arresting illegal migrants at airports. Yeah, yeah. That's why the Democrats are going crazy. because they've allowed by what they did and hold up, we put ICE, who are a very high level. I mean, they really are a high level group of people. And they love it because they're able to now arrest illegals as they come into the country.

That's very fertile territory. But that's not why they're there. They're really there to help. Uh-huh. There to help. Most people who are undocumented do not illegally enter the country through airports. That would be silly. They overstay a visa.

That's where they lose their legal presence. On Fox News, Tom Homan claimed that ICE was helping to reduce long lines at airports as well as arrest criminals. And we're filling the holes. The weight lines are already dropped. Plus, we're doing a security function at the airports. We're going to arrest criminals going to choose the airport. We're going to look for human trafficking, sex trafficking, money smuggling. Money smuggling.

Yeah, they're just going to steal cash off of people at the airport. Yeah, yeah. Now, TSA has done that for a while off and on, so this isn't entirely new, but they're just going to take money from people. By Tuesday evening, lines at ATL, the airport in Atlanta, the most busy airport in the world, has the most amount of travel to and from.

By Tuesday evening, lines were back down, but by Wednesday morning, a friend of mine took three hours to get through TSA. God. So what exactly is ICE doing? Mostly standing behind TSA at security checkpoints. Standing behind people

still doing the regular TSA work. Occasionally directing pedestrian traffic and maybe at most yelling at people to empty their pockets. Hey, they're keeping the cookie clicker economy going. The mobile app economy is benefiting enormously for all these people standing around their phones. Ice agents cannot actually do the job of TSA.

since they do not have the training nor the certification required to do so. Nope. So ICE is largely just acting as auxiliary staff and security for the airport. But regular airport staff aren't suffering from the financial strain of the shutdown because they're still getting paid. Aaron Barker, the president of the TSA Union Local 554, which covers airports in Georgia, like ATL, denied that ICE contributed to short lines on Tuesday compared to the weekend.

noting that Tuesday is a non-peak travel day. Yeah, of course, it's Tuesday. Quote, it has nothing to do with ice presence being there. The ICE officers in Atlanta are not doing any screening functions. They are literally standing behind the officers while they're checking documents and screening passengers or walking the queue line that cascades through the airport, unquote. New York and New Jersey TSA Union President Hydra Thomas said during a press conference, quote, you want to bring a tactical force into an environment where you're required to have

customer service and skill set, a mindset where you know what you're doing, how to identify something that might be suspicious. They don't have that training, unquote. No, and the TSA doesn't really have that training. Let's be clear. No. No, TSA does not actually provide it. TSA doesn't know what they're doing at all.

There was never any chance of this helping anything. This is only going to be more of a pain in the ass for people at airports, which already are unpleasant to be at. Now, on Monday, there was viral video of plain clothes agents wrestling a woman into handcuffs at the San Francisco airport. This incident actually took place Sunday night. Angelina Lopez Jimenez and her nine-year-old daughter were supposed to fly to Miami to visit a relative.

Instead, she was detained by ICE agents and sent to an airport holding room, according to the New York Times. On Friday, TSA agents flagged her name on an upcoming passage. list and informed ICE that Lopez Jimenez was scheduled to fly from Miami on Sunday. Lopez Jimenez and her daughter were detained by Border Patrol back in 2018, but were released with a notice to attend court for removal proceedings. Eventually, she stopped showing up for appointments, and her deportation was ordered in 2019. This weekend, at around 9.30 p.m. Sunday night, two plainclothes agents

approached Lopez Jimenez in Terminal 3 in San Francisco and she then handed over her two Guatemalan passports, one for her and other for her daughter. While being led to the international terminal she tried to run away, prompting the agents to tackle her to the ground.

On Tuesday, her and her daughter were sent to Guatemala. The New York Times says that this operation was unrelated to the ICE airport deployment ordered by Trump. Also on Sunday, night, Republican Senate Majority Leader John Thune told Trump that the Senate had reached a deal to fund TSA and the rest of DHS except for ICE, which would be handled later in a reconciliation

bill. But Trump instructed Thune to kill the deal. Later that night, Trump trothed, I don't think that we should make any deal with crazy country-destroying radical left Democrats unless, and until they vote with Republicans to pass the Save America. Act. That is the Voting Restriction Act, which includes voter ID with picture, proof of citizenship to vote, heavily restricting mail-in-voting, requiring paper ballots, as well as, quote, no men in women's sports and no transgender mutilation of our precious children, unquote. Senator Ted Cruz and John Kennedy are continuing to work on this plan that Thune told Trump about to reopen DHS Sands Ice.

On Tuesday morning, Kennedy said on Fox News that Thune told him the president is reconsidering the option and, quote, unquote, may be on board. Later that day, Trump was asked if he supports what appears to be the quote unquote emerging agreement coming out of the Senate to reopen DHS. Trump replied, quote, I'm going to look at it. We're going to take a good, hard look at it. I want to support Republicans. And sometimes it's awfully hard to get votes when you have Democrats that don't want to have voter ID, unquote. Trump then went on to discuss the Save Act and how he added no men in women's sports, quote unquote, because it's nearly a quote unquote 99 to one issue.

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That may have been about sex. Listen to Roershack, murder at City Hall, on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. We're back. So let's talk about the war that's been going on for like a month at this point in time. You know, as we're kind of sitting here right now, we've all seen gas prices leap up substantially. In California, there's some areas where you're paying like $750 a gallon.

Good Lord. It's gone up by about a dollar where I live. It looks fairly credible. There was a lot of fear that like kind of the worst case scenario would be that oil gets anywhere near like $200 a gallon. Or $200 a barrel, not a gallon, sorry. that would be, that'd be real bad. But what we're looking at right now, there's credible reason to expect that like this stuff won't peak any lower than about 175 bucks a barrel, which is pretty catastrophic for the

U.S. economy and the global economy as a whole. Nightmare. It's bad. And Trump has been, I think, increasingly making it clear that he is looking for an off ramp. There's a lot of reporting from inside the administration that suggests they did not think things would still be going on this long, that they thought that after the first you know, rank of Iranian leaders were kind of wiped out. The guys behind them would be willing to play ball with the administration in exchange for staying in power, which is more or less the

offer that we gave Delci Rodriguez in Venezuela. And the Venezuelan regime, the people who kind of were behind Maduro, were willing to take. But Iran is a very different country. And they're in a very different situation. And they have a very different military. And they have a very different physical strategic situation than Venezuela does than any other country that the United States has attempted to use these kind of violent bullying tactics on. And so far Iran does not seem to be interested in coming to the table. Trump has made a couple of statements about how we're working on getting out of this. You know, we've presented an option to the Iranian government that would basically allow them to get rid of all of the sanctions if they just promise to stop enriching uranium and

to hand over everything that they do have and to never try to get a nuke. I think it's pretty clear they're not willing to make that promise anymore. I think they were. I mean, they certainly were earlier, five years ago. But at the time of which you've repeatedly killed all the people running the country, you've kind of only made it clear that they need noops. And that's the waiting game that we find ourselves kind of currently locked in here. Is Iran has shut down the Strait of Hormuz.

They've, at least last I checked, I think, hit 17 ships. heading through the straight or in the straight. And that's caused the vast majority of traffic that would be crossing through to hold back. And so you've got this massive backlog of craft just kind of waiting because they can't go through. Trump previously had made some big statements about, well, the U.S. Navy will escort them through and we'll get like a global coalition of naval forces to escort them through. That hasn't come to pass. For one thing, very few governments with navies.

seem interested in sending sizable naval forces to the Strait of Hormuz to do this. And for the other thing, that's not an easy thing to do. It may seem like it because it would be a real crazy thing to all of us listening if a single U.S. naval vessel were destroyed in combat, right? Like the last time anything like that happened was the U.S. coal, which was hit while it was in docked by a suicide bomb. The idea of like a destroyer getting sunk would be deeply upsetting to the American people, I think probably, and like deeply, it would be a huge problem for, let alone if an aircraft carrier were to take serious damage.

Yeah. These would be serious problems for the administration. The problem is that you can't escort fuel tankers through the Strait of Hormuz without exposing them and the ships escorting them to direct fire. Geographically, you know, you've probably heard a lot about Karg Island recently, which is this island that as we talked about in a previous episode, a lot of Iran's oil infrastructure. structures on because the coast of Iran is not, mostly not deep water. And you need very deep water for the boats that transport huge amounts of crude oil. These are massive vessels. These are some of the largest machines, human beings have ever built of any kind. Yeah, these are the size of skyscrapers. Like, these are skyscrapers on their side. They are enormous boats. It is, when people were

suggesting, like, what if we just drive the oil, you have no idea how big these fucking boats are and how much oil it takes to keep the world running. Yeah. So you have a very narrow waterway for most of this. So it's not like it is in, you know, other waterways or in the broader ocean where people have a lot of roots they can take. Big ships can only take one very well-known path through the strait, right? And it's really easy to mine that path. If you've got naval vessels escorting those big boats, then you've got U.S. naval vessels that are exposing themselves to direct fire from the mountains and hills in a way that is impossible to stop them from getting shot at from having drones flung at them. And we have a pretty good understanding of what we can

stop and what we can't stop. And based on everything that's been happening, my suspicion is that Trump has been getting told by his officers, we can't guarantee we won't lose sailors and we won't lose ships if we do this. Because you are sending them through the chokiest of choke points. And Iran has spent 50 years preparing to fling shit at naval vessels escorting oil tankers through the Strait of Hormuz. There's no guarantee it's not going to be a bloodbath. So that's why the administration is looking at stuff like, well, what should be rescinding in Marines?

And we have Marines that are moving into the area. There's been a lot of talk about having them seize islands in the strait, potentially even Karg Island. The problem with that is, obviously, Iran has to deal with the bottleneck of, we need this big island with its deep harbors. Otherwise, we can't get our oil out. But if the U.S. takes that island, it's in the main. middle of a bunch of shit Iran controls, and they can fling explosives at the forces who take that

island all fucking day long. It is a very bad position to be in if you're the Marines. I don't care how well trained you are. I don't care how much support you have. That is a bad position to be in. And any military leader who has been under fire is trying very hard right now to let Trump know this will not be a low casualty endeavor and it will not be an easy endeavor. And you will not wind up just controlling this island and being able to dictate things to Iran. You will wind up having potentially thousands of your boys held captive by Iranian forces that surround them and fling explosives at them all day long. It's a bad position to be in. Yeah. And this is, I think, part of, like, the issue with the Trump administration's policy here is that, like, Trump himself

and the people around him just seem to have been treating the Iranian army as not a real army. It is. It is. No, this is an actual army. They know what they're doing. Like, this is, this is not the Venezuelan army. Like, this is an actual army. Yeah. Like, you can't do this shit. There's a lot of guys left who have a lot of experience in it from preparing for this exact war for a very long time. Yeah.

And who are ideologically motivated to not have the U.S. like invade their country. The issues here with the fact that there's, there's no good way to open the straight, I think has been dictating a lot of what Trump's been doing with his negotiations. And I've started calling them like market negotiations. because if you look at whatever Trump releases a statement. So on Monday, for example, he released a thing saying, like, ah, we've entered, like, peace negotiations. And that was Monday morning, as the markets were opening from a very panicky weekend

where people were, it was sort of setting in that oil prices were going to be increasing. And whenever Trump does one of these speeches where he says, oh, well, we're going to, we're going to find some way to open the straight. Or he does these, like, peace off, like, he sends this peace deal to Iran, which we don't know the details of, there was, like, a reported leak of it in the Israeli. media, but we don't know exactly what's in it. From that Israeli leak, it didn't seem to be a, I mean, it didn't seem to be something that the government would accept, right? But the reason he's doing it is because he's trying to calm the markets down on a sort of day-by-day basis.

And part of it also was that there was this whole panic that Trump had been threatening early this week to start doing all of these bombing campaigns against Iranian, like, civilian power facilities and supposedly non-civillian power facilities too. And then on Monday, he was like, No, no, no, we're not actually doing that. Actually, we're doing peace talks. We're pushing this off for five days. And this is, again, market manipulation stuff, right? Because he watched... We're only at war during the weekend when the markets are closed. Yeah. So this is what these negotiations are, right? And that's why in Iran immediately, like, it goes like, no, like, we're not in negotiations. And then released their own five-point plan to end the war in which the U.S. would pay war damages.

And they've been really consistent about this, which is the U.S. will pay war damages and reparations. And in this one, and also, you know, there was a whole thing about, obviously, like, the U.S. stopping the war, they're being deterrent measures in place to keep the U.S. and doing it again. They want the U.S. to have its regional proxies stand down, which would also presumably end the other major thing that's going on in this war, which is just Israel, ethnically cleansing the South of Lebanon. We just released an episode about this. It's very good. Yeah, to make a defensive barrier. Yeah. And the other, the last part about this, and this is the part that I think is the real kind of, clincher here is that it would give Iran control over the straight or Hormuz, which is a real problem for any kind of American negotiation, because this was always a thing that the Iranian government never did, right? They had the military capacity to hold the straight. The reason they didn't do it was that it would start a war.

But now you've started the war, and now you've opened Pandora's box, and you can't put the fact that they can do this militarily back into the box. Yeah. Right. So now they're just being like, fuck it, you guys can't actually, like, defeat us militarily before the entire world economy collapses. Like, fuck it, give us the straight. Now, I do want to mention something about some of the oil tankers, which is that, okay, the whole situation is very murky, but Iran has been, I mean, obviously it's been allowing its own tankers to go through, which is not a huge amount of oil, but it's some.

We got a reported case. The statements on this were released by the Thai government and also a Thai oil company, where the Thai basically foreign minister, like, called the Iranian government and said, hey, we have an oil tanker here where you let it through, and they went, yeah, sure. So there seems to be some kind of process by which countries can do some kind of negotiation with the Iranian government and be let through what exactly that looks like and the details of it are really unclear. We don't know if this is a pattern or if they were just like, yeah, sure, whatever, Thailand, you can do this. But yeah, that's kind of the state of things. I guess we should also mention there's been a bunch of reporting at the U.S. is deploying 2,000. troopers. I've seen both 1,000 and 2,000-sided as a number from the 82nd

Airborne into the region, which presumably would be there for that, like, disastrous Cargoyland campaign, but, oh boy. Which is not boots on the ground, because it's an island. It's not... It doesn't count as the ground. It doesn't count as the ground. It doesn't count as the ground. We're good. I'm so excited for us to fight an entire war in the Arctic where he's like, there's not boots on the ground because they're all wearing

snow sheets. Can't get us there. Nope. you see all the Marines are wearing jet packs they never touch the ground they never touch the ground they've got those weird water backpacks that you fly you can fly with if you're at the goats they're a little jet ski back

they're not touching the ground they're all laying a quarter of a road in front of them so they're not technically on the ground they're on this road yeah so things continue to go badly for kind of everyone involved in this war except I guess the Israelis who are...

They seem to be happy. Yeah, they seem to be having a great time doing another ethnic cleansing. But there's another group of people who've been doing extremely badly as a result of this and has gotten almost no coverage in the American press

to the extent that, like, I found out about... I mean, like, I was starting hearing about the stuff from just, like, by friends who are Indian, which is that things are very, very bad right now in East and Southeast Asia. and just South Asia in general. Multiple countries, including

Thailand, for example, have either sent part or all of their government employees home and told them to just work from home because they can't afford to keep their offices open because, like, cooling the offices is too expensive. They're sort of rolling crisis across the entire sort of Pacific Rim area

because all of these countries are unbelievably reliance on oil, natural gas. This is also down to stuff like cooking oil. too, which they also have not been able to get. And so, you know, you can look at Sri Lanka where there are these just enormous fuel cues because the Sri Lankan government, they're four years out from the last time

that they weren't able to input oil. That one was a sort of currency crisis, balance of payments issue they were having, but the moment there was a problem with the oil supply, the government started doing rationing. So now you have these massive lines for people trying to get gasoline.

That's, I think, one of the worst ones in terms of just pure inability to get gasoline so this is a problem across the region. The BBC also said, I'm just going to read the quote, declared Wednesdays a public holiday. Sure.

So, yeah, they're just adding another day to the weekend because they can't have businesses open because businesses can't afford to, like, heat or cool themselves. They literally can't afford to keep the economy running. And variations of this are playing out

all across South Asia. There's been a massive closure of industries in India, a whole bunch of restaurants. I think the estimates were about one-fifth of restaurants are just gone because they can't get cooking oil. And you have the situations where like anything that requires like cooking oil, even other things that are open, like can't be used. Gujarat, the Indian state of Gujarat has a very large ceramic industry.

And it's gone. It's been gone for like a month. 80% of it is shut down. This is 400,000 people affected by this because they're using propane. and there's no propane. And this is playing out across the region, right? There's been some reporting about concerns in Taiwan over whether they're going to have enough

sort of liquefied natural gas in order to keep their ship facilities running. But Taiwan is like kind of okay. It's places like Sri Lanka, places like Thailand, it's places like Myanmar, it's India, where things are getting really, really bleak really quickly. There's a story that kind of did make

it through into the American press about how the U.S. temporarily lifted sanctions on Iranian oil specifically so that there were these tankers, Iranian tankers that were just at sea and the sanctions specifically on those tankers were lifted so India could buy it. And this has been happening with Russian

oil too, and the reason this is happening is that if you're not getting these kind of injections of oil, the situation there would be even more bleak than it already is. And obviously there's some places where it just everything is continuing as normal, but you're starting to see just kind of these countries

unravel because so much of their infrastructure is based on on oil and natural gas that's coming through the Gulf. And it's really fucking bleak. And it's something to keep in mind as this crisis rolls on. We're dealing with like gas price go up, which is obviously bad in an issue. there are a shit ton of people in the world where it's like, yeah, I know like 400,000 people are out of their jobs because their entire ceramics industry is gone. Yeah.

Right, and these are not people who have money in the first place. And this crisis is just going to continue as long as the Trump keeps this war going. So I guess we'll see how long that is. Hopefully not long. Yeah. I mean, polling continues to be bad.

I'm sure Marco Rubio and J.D. Vance are going to be on it as they God, as they continue their negotiation. Yeah. There's not a long list of people that I want running negotiations less than J.D. Vance. But like, it's... It's... It's not great. No, it's not great. It's... There's no way to sugarcoat it here. It says something about how much fucking Kushner screwed the pooch that Iran is like, yeah, get Vance in here. Bring in... Bring in Vance. Get J.D. Vance in here. I don't want to talk to that other guy again. There is, like, a legitimate problem they're having, which is like, there's been a lot of jokes about

how like all the DEI firings are like fucking the, but like it actually is where there's like a whole bunch of the embassy staff people like got fired because they weren't white and because the Doge people were just like fuck it. And now it's like, I mean, this was a situation already. The U.S. governments like experts on other countries tend to be like. I mean, if you look at what happened in the lead up to the Iraq war, anyone who knew anything about Iraq as an actual S subject matter expert was basically isolated and cut out of like the planning because they were all saying, don't do what you're doing. It's not going to work. Well, and even even in administrations we regard as competent, like I randomly, like when I was

at University of Chicago, like going to school, I met the guy who was who was set com Syria analyst, like right when that at the beginning of the Syrian Revolution and he was like reporting to Barack Obama about what was going on. And it was just like some guy. Like it was like some guy who'd gotten like an undergrad degree, right? Yeah. Like, and even those guys are getting like, It was just like some random asshole with, I mean, like, he's like, new as stuff, but he wasn't like a, he wasn't like an expert on this, right? And even those people are gone. And so now you're dealing with those people who are supposed to be running these negotiations. You just have like literally no idea what's going on because they fired every non-white person. And so just catastrophic for the entire world. Yep. Cool. One more ad break. And we will return for a final segment giving an update on a friend. of the pod Gregory Avino.

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God. What's Boving on? He just had a very interesting interview with The New York Times. You did. In which he said that before he was demoted from his role as commander at large, he had a plan at DHS to deport 100 million people.

Something that DHS then tweeted about with a silly little graphic that they stole from another artist. The New York Times reported, quote, Mr. Bovino said he had a master plan that was in motion before his exile back to El Centoro. It would have neutralized protesters, he said, and made it possible to deport 100 million people. That is a goal that the Department of Homeland Security has widely promoted.

If it sounds extreme, it's because it's nearly 10 times the estimated number of undocumented people in the country. It's also more than a quarter of the entire U.S. population, unquote. Yep. Gregory is also quoted in this piece of saying, I wish I'd caught even more illegal aliens. I mean, we went as hard as we could, but there's always a... creative and innovative solution to catching more, unquote.

God. Would have been nice for a journalist to follow up on what he meant by that. Yep. Yep. Mm-hmm. I want to talk a little bit about that $100 million number because there was a New York Times report where Trump said in one meeting due, the 2024 campaign, Mr. Trump said that if it was up to Mr. Miller, there would only be 100 million people in this country and they would all

look like Mr. Miller. Wow. Yeah, I mean, that's, he's not lying. Yeah. And he, I guess, has the numbers reversed in that, in that the Bovino one is deport 100 billion people, which is the one that's been floating around in sort of, like, right wind circles and more. And this one was that there's only 100 million left. But. And it's completely disconnected from reality and like the economic reasons for why. Yeah. These deportations or even something disconnected from the economic reasons behind this sort of immigration enforcement. Yeah. There's just no logistical capacity. No, like, it's, I mean, yeah, it would be one of the largest ethnic cleansings we've ever seen. But it's a thing that, like, people like Miller and, like, Bovino wants. This is kind of what we've seen a lot in Trump administration between the people who actually want the economy to work and the people who have, like, some other ideological goal. Yeah.

Because there's the people who just want the white ethno state, right? And that's sort of the Bovino, like, Miller wing. And then there's everyone else, like, Scott Beston, like, the Trump. treasury people who were like, holy shit. Yeah. We want there to, we want that we like, we need the permanently subjugated immigrant underclass. You can't deport 100.

And well, this isn't even be the immigrant underclass, right? This is, this is like most of the non-white people in the U.S., right? Who they're talking about deporting, who are just, you know, people here like me. And obviously, like, we don't know if Bovino's just lying about this because who knows, it's Bovino. But. Yeah. what this master plan actually looks like or what it included, also not expounded upon

something that the journalists at least did not get an answer out of that was then reported. No. It's unclear. But during Bovino's like rain at Border Patrol, this number was something that DHS mentioned as a gold multiple times. For an example, earlier this month, Louisiana Senator John Kennedy was questioning David J. Beer, Director of Immigration Studies at the Cato Institute, about, his criticism of DHS, and Senator Kennedy read a quote from Beers' social media.

They referring to Republicans think they can troll their way into us accepting ethnic cleansing, end quote. Your words not mine. Did I read that correctly? That was in regard to a Department of Homeland Security Post about advocating 100 million deportations. That is what DHS has tweeted from their report. own account, 100 million deportations would be ethnic cleansing. You would be removing one third of the country. So, yes, there are people within the Department of Homeland Homeland Security. And you don't think this is hyperbolic. Give me 30 more seconds. I think advocating 100 million deportations is ethnic cleansing. On February 5th, he really thought

he ate with that one. He was really thinking he was going to dine out on that, huh? Wow. What a loser. It's rattling around in your skull that you listen to that and think you won. Like, what is happening here? God. You're having fun? You're having fun with that, huh?

Okay. Speaking of the Department of Homeland Security, there is a new big boss in town. Former Senator Mark Wayne Mullen has been sworn in as the new DHS Secretary. During his confirmation hearings, Mullen said he regrets calling Alex Pretti a, quote, deranged individual who came to cause max damage. Those words probably should have been retracted. I shouldn't have said that. And as Secretary, I wouldn't.

The investigation is ongoing. And there is, like I said, there's sometimes going to make a mistake and I own it. That one, I went out there too fast. I was responding immediately without the facts. That's my fault. That won't happen as Secretary. So you regret that statement? I already said that.

Yes, sir. Would you want to apologize to the family of Alex Pruddy? well sir i just said i regret those statements is that the same as an apology i haven't seen the investigation we'll let the investigation go through and if i'm proven wrong then i will absolutely is that the same as an apology oh god man just speak like a person do we got to bring mr rogers in here to tell you what an apology is my come on bro goodness i also there's a lot of discourse about his name being mark wayne and you can't tell me that guy doesn't look like a Mark Wayne. He looks like a Mark Wayne. He looks like a Mark Wayne. Thank you so

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these criminals from their jail. One, we're going to reimburse them for having the person there. And partnership is violent. I don't think there needs to be a wall to change that. I think I can work within what is there. But there's an approach that can happen, but we've got to have partners. What he's trying to do here is essentially blame ICE overreach on sanctuary city policies saying that ICE would need to be in all these places being on the ground if sanctuary cities would just cooperate with ICE for removal operations. In response to a question about ICE and CBP, illegally entering people's homes, Mullen said,

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Which, big if, like it, I think, as, like James has said before, I think there is, like, the wind is changing a little bit. But, I mean, it could very easily change back the other way. It is simply too soon to say, and obviously none of these things will be, like, satisfactory. I should not exist as an agency. Yeah. But it is interesting to see the Trump administration slowly adjust towards pressure being put on ice from the public.

At Mullins' swearing-in ceremony, Trump said, quote, generally speaking, Mark Wayne would be very much in favor of what I'm in favor of. He might be worse. He might be worse than me. Oh, no. So generally speaking, I think I can answer that Mark Wayne would be very much in favor of what I'm in favor of. Would you say that's right, Mark? I can't think of too many things. He might be worse. He might be worse than me. We'll see.

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