It Could Happen Here - Executive Disorder: State Dept. Summit on Left-Wing Extremism, Alien Terrorist Removal Court, Canada Tariffs

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Starting point is 00:02:25 And listen now. Also Media. This is It Could Happen here. Executive Disorder, our weekly newscast covering what's happening in the White House, the crumbling world, and what it means for you. I'm Garrison Davis. Today I'm joined by Mia Wong and Robert Evans with a special segment by James Stout. This episode, we're covering the week of July 15th to July 22nd. On Monday morning, someone poured gasoline in front of an entrance to the Federal Immigration Court in New York City and lit the gasoline on fire. A 43-year-old Army event was arrested outside the building and has been charged with arson.

Starting point is 00:03:06 The man brought a sign reading Ice Off Our Streets and also allegedly launched a bundle of fireworks and fired pellets from an airsoft rifle. Three U.S. service members were killed this week on an airbase in Jordan as a result of Trump's war with Iran. The New York Times reported that the Trump administration has tried to obtain phone and text records from New York Times journalists and their families to uncover the source of leaks regarding the security capabilities of the new Air Force One, courtesy of the Qatar government. Cash Patel is overseeing this investigation. This is a huge First Amendment breach. Yeah. After multiple failed election campaigns,

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Starting point is 00:04:03 you know what the growth industry of the future is? books. I can't fault the desire there, but I just don't think history is going to really work that way, Katie. Secretary Kennedy has announced the Trump administration is pausing more than $1 billion in Medicaid payments to California and Minnesota due to, quote, suspected fraud and noncompliance. Play a short clip here. That includes more than $867 million for California and over $200 million.

Starting point is 00:04:35 for Minnesota. If those states want that money, they need to provide documentation that these payments are legitimate. This will seriously harm, if not kill people. Huge numbers of people. This is just a billion dollar cut to Medicaid citing quote-unquote fraud. It's aimed at blue states that the administration sees as enemies, you know? Let's move on to our first main story, and it'll be kind of a throughline this episode.

Starting point is 00:05:05 As I briefly mentioned last week, on Thursday, July 16th, Mark Rubio and the State Department held an international conference on the scourge of left-wing violence and Antifa terrorism. This is just the latest escalation following Trump's designation of Antifa as a quote-unquote terrorist group last year and the emboldening of law enforcement's targeting of left-wing groups, the National Security Presidential Memorandum Number 7. According to the state departments, this international conference was attended by representatives. representatives from 66 countries. Over 60 senior ministers were invited, but only 17 ministers actually were in attendance, though other, quote, political leaders and experts and law enforcement officials traveled to D.C. for the event, including the senior chief of the Hellenic police

Starting point is 00:05:56 from Greece. According to a reporter from the Lahorta newspaper, Mexico was invited to the summit, but the president declined to attend because the conference seemed, quote, more political than really related to combating criminal groups. Yeah, amazing. Imagine that. And before the conference, Washington Post reported that many senior ministers were confused as to the purpose of the event and why they were invited to the conference with two European diplomats telling the post, quote, we don't have Antifa and quote, our law enforcement authorities have not focused on left-wing terrorism, because this is not considered a high priority threat in our country. Because it doesn't really exist yet to us.

Starting point is 00:06:39 So this international summit put on by Mark Rubio was titled The Ministerial on the Resurgence of Political Terrorism. Come on. Very serious. Completely leaving out the right. And also, as we'll talk about later, blaming a lot, basically the entire modern left on Cuba. Because it's a mix of Marco and everyone trying to pander to Trump, a lot of these are grievances either rooted in the 70s or like a four-month period in 2020.

Starting point is 00:07:06 Yes. Right? Like, that's their entire conception of the left. To open the summit, Rubio told this story of a civilizational threat posed by leftists, Marxists, and anarchist political violence, violence that has laid dormant since the 70s, but has now awoken. Rubio applauded our counterterrorism strategies in taking down, quote-unquote, radical Islamist extremism.

Starting point is 00:07:31 But while our focus has been on ISIS and jihadism, law enforcement and the counterterrorism apparatus has been unable or unwilling to go after left-wing violence. Let's hear from Rubio. For far too long, however, our counter-terrorism doctrine has had a blind spot. A blind spot when it comes to extremist violence from the political left. Even today, the very idea that far-left terrorism could be a serious threat is treated as a right-wing fever dream, or worse, as a dangerous fascist conspiracy. It's treated this way by many in the press,

Starting point is 00:08:07 by many in academia in our universities, and by many of our legacy institutions. You will no doubt see the dogma rear its head in the coverage of this very conference. In spite of the clear and the undeniable reality, in spite of the objective numbers and statistics. One of the main tactics employed by Rubio, Stephen Miller, and others at this conference was the,

Starting point is 00:08:30 subtle conflation of mass casualty incidents from the far right, with instances of property damage or in the most extreme cases, targeted assassination attempts against political figures attributed to the far left, which people on the far right also do, by the way. Much more often, yeah. Rubio said, quote, a whole industry grew up in our countries around the study of extremism. We have think tanks and fellowships and journals and consultancies. with the unspoken understanding among them that only one kind of political violence

Starting point is 00:09:04 was a true threat to the system. A bomb planted by a neo-Nazi group was a nefarious and murderous act of evil. It is, but a bomb planted by a Marxist revolutionary, well, that's just merely a tragic excess of idealism. Perhaps its means were misplaced or overzealous, but its ends were virtuous and just, unquote. No one's ever said that.

Starting point is 00:09:28 No, no one said it. No one in U.S. politics has ever said that. You can find some maniacs who've said anything about anything. But that's simply not a discourse in America. CVE researchers generally would not describe Marxist bombing plots as virtuous and just. I've never heard a bombing plot described as virtuous. The only act of what you could call terrorism I have ever seen in the recent days people call virtuous is, you know, what happened to that health care executive. Which Rubio does talk about. Yes. And that is definitely a lot of people cheered that on. But I can't think of a single instance in which a bombing has ever been cheered on. Also, like, Marxist bombings?

Starting point is 00:10:05 It's like, like, when was the last time of Marxist, like, actually said? Like, this is not a real thing. It is in that what Rubio was talking about is a spate of left-wing affiliated bombings that occurred from 1971 to 72. He talks about this in the Cuba page. And that's what he's saying. Like, that hasn't happened. Like, weather underground has been above ground for, like, like.

Starting point is 00:10:25 That's entirely what all this is based on. Yeah, yeah. And it's like, it's not a thing now. Yeah, is what old people remember about the left in the 70s. Yeah. You know, it's not directly referenced, but I know the DOJ did make a big hubbub about foiling a quote unquote far laughter. It's kind of like an anti-imperialist, like Maoist bombing plot in California late last year.

Starting point is 00:10:47 Also, a confidential human source who was working with law enforcement was involved in the planning of this operation, which was stopped by law enforcement before they could ever carry out the attack. And that's the closest thing to like an actual like Marxist. That is the closest recent thing, yes. Like that's it. Like in the last like very long number of years. Now Rubio claimed that quote, an extraordinary ideological prejudice was embedded in the way we talk about political violence and extremism. To the point that this prejudice has become the neutral and objective baseline, quote, so entrenched in the mainstream conventional wisdom that it came to be regarded as an apolitical fact.

Starting point is 00:11:30 For an example of this, Rubio mentions the protests against the murder of George Floyd. Many people in positions of power have repeatedly dismissed acts of violence and even terrorism as legitimate forms of political expression so long as they served a left-wing cause. It is why during those George Floyd so-called George Floyd riots in the summer of 2020, as criminals and extremists burned and looted their way through America's great cities and nearly brought the country to its knees, city governments all across the country

Starting point is 00:12:05 simply refused to prosecute the people conducting these acts of violence and terror. It is the reason for the now infamous image, maybe you all recall this, of a news anchor from a very prominent agency, a news anchor standing in a neighborhood, consumed in flames. Meanwhile, the crayon on the bottom read that the protests were mostly peaceful.

Starting point is 00:12:30 Can't even say Chiron right? My God. This was something worse than a double standard. Left-wing violence was not just excused. It was treated as sacrosanct, a protected class unto itself. A protected class unto itself. Protecting their ability to light trash on fire in the middle of a street. That's what happened.

Starting point is 00:12:51 There weren't thousands of arrests and prosecutions. That is the other thing, is that the Trump administration did that a little bit, but this was at the end of 2020. The Biden administration did tons and tons of federal arrests with people involved in these protests, people who are still in jail. Meanwhile, the January 6 people are out of jail and have had pardons. Rubio referenced instances of political violence in Europe from recent time, like a fire bomb attack on the home of a Greek politician that killed that politician's mother earlier this month. month, Rubio did not mention that four suspects have already been arrested and that this firebombing was the first time in over a decade that someone was killed in an attack targeting a politician in Greece.

Starting point is 00:13:37 Rubio also referenced a five-day blackout in Berlin last winter caused by a powerline sabotage, people claiming to be responsible for the attack associated themselves with a far-left eco-extremist group. Lastly, Rubio mentioned that in February of this year, quote, a French 23-year-old succumbed to traumatic brain injuries, beaten to death on the streets of Leone by a group of far-left militant thugs. This 23-year-old was a neo-fascist, quote-unquote, activist, that's what he's referred to in local news coverage, who died two days after being brutalized in a large street brawl during a far-right protest outside of a university event featuring a Palestinian lawmaker. Eleven anti-fascists were arrested for this.

Starting point is 00:14:18 Rubio tried to connect the current emerging threat of far-left political terrorism to historical Marxist struggles in the 20th century and particularly the 1970s. Rubio named dropped to urban guerrilla groups in Central and South America, Fark, the National Liberation Army, the Shining Path, Maoist guerrillas in Peru, as well as European groups like Italy's Red Brigades, the Red Army faction in Germany, Marxist extremists in Greece, and in the U.S., the weather underground. the Black Liberation Army and the Simbani's Liberation Army. And today we face a new wave of this old evil. Here in the United States, the share of left-wing terrorist attacks and plots has risen to levels not seen in decades. In Germany, far-left violence has jumped by more than 40% in just the last year alone. In Greece, more than 80% of radical violence is now driven by far-left and anarchist actors.

Starting point is 00:15:16 These are not abstract statistics. Americans have seen what those numbers mean. An all-out assault on our immigration officers. Sniper attacks, explosives, armed ambushes, a transgender shooter opening fire on Catholic elementary school students as they pray. His gun marked with slogans like, Where is your God now? A health care executive executed in cold blood in the streets.

Starting point is 00:15:46 multiple assassination attempts on a sitting president and the murder of the greatest conservative activist of a generation. So there's a lot there. Anarchist violence certainly isn't new in Greece. No. And again, in the American context, this little speech by Rubio conflates mass casualty events with property damage and isolated, targeted violence.

Starting point is 00:16:09 He references vague, quote unquote, all-out assaults on immigration officers, as in big protests in Minneapolis. He references a one sniper attack by a suicidal man who was not very political and leaned libertarian in Texas. He references a transgender shooter who also was not politically motivated in the traditional sense and initially planned to shoot up an LGBTQ music venue.

Starting point is 00:16:34 The United Healthcare CEO assassination is arguably the closest thing here to like left-wing motivated violence. It's definitely politically motivated. Even that suspect wasn't particularly left-wing politically. No. Belief in some political ideology was not the driving force behind that assassination. It wasn't ideologically motivated, but rather materially motivated based on interactions with our inhumane health care system. Trying to understand every public act of violence, whether that's a shooting or an assassination, just as existing in between this left-right binary, is a very,

Starting point is 00:17:12 limited way to actually try to understand public acts of violence. Because not all shootings have an obvious ideological driver. Public acts of violence can be downstream of someone's personal experiences and material conditions. As for the Trump assassinations, two have been from people who were largely moderate liberals, not leftists, and the first attempt of assassination did not appear to have what we would traditionally consider to be a political motive. Again, from someone with a conservative background, who was closer to what we would describe as having like a school shooter mentality. I'll talk about this a little bit later, but I think it's really important to understand that just because the target is a political figure does not mean it as political violence. The attempted assassination on Ronald Reagan is a key example of this.

Starting point is 00:18:02 And investigations into the first Trump assassination found that the shooter, Thomas Crooks, searched online for a variety of events. to commit a shooting at. In the month prior to the shooting, he did more than 60 internet searches related to Biden, Trump, and information about the upcoming DNC and R&C conventions. Trump's campaign event in Butler, Pennsylvania, just happened to take place in the right place

Starting point is 00:18:25 at the right time. And for someone who's just trying to do a high-profile shooting, it might not even matter what the outcome of that attempted shooting is. These public acts of violence usually have a suicidal component, a drive-for-self-annihilation,

Starting point is 00:18:43 while simultaneously gaining some final sense of meaning or purpose by crudely emblazoning yourself in history through a violent act. This kind of public suicidal violence can be a sort of final attempt of communing with the world. The AP summarized a report published last year by the Center for Strategic and International Studies that found that left-wing terrorist attacks, as of July of last year, had surpassed those from the far right

Starting point is 00:19:12 for the first time in more than 30 years. But a closer look at that data showed that the uptick reflects a very low starting level and a concurrent drop on the far right. Quote, there was an average of 0.6 left-wing incidents annually from 1994 through 2000, compared with an average of 20.6 on the right,

Starting point is 00:19:32 the report shows. From 2016 to 2024, there were an average of four per year on the left, and 22.7 per year on the right. Those numbers have dropped dramatically on the right as of early July 2025, with only one incident. Meanwhile, there had been five from the left. So, yes, left-wing attacks in 2025 did outpace what that report, as of July, categorized as right-wing attacks. But that's because there was a big drop-off in right-wing attacks once Trump came into office

Starting point is 00:20:03 and a very small increase in attacks attributed to the left. And that is the sort of statistics that Rubio is using to make this push. Yeah. And, you know, like, it's worth noting. It's like, okay, so why have there been less of these sort of like bright wing political terrorism events? And it's like, well, because ICE is just doing them instead. Yeah, the state's doing the violence for them.

Starting point is 00:20:25 Yeah. Like, it's the same reason that you can look at the period in which sort of like jailhouse lynching suddenly like collapses. And the reason they collapse is that, you know, the US government just starts executing those people. And, you know, this is like a very exciting. explicit deal that's made between the state and, you know, the specific kind of lynch mob is like, we'll just carry out death, like, penalty sentences against these people if you stop storming

Starting point is 00:20:45 prisons and lynching them in there. So, you know, that's like what's happening here, right? It's like you have people with mass shooter profiles who are, you know, ICE officers shooting, like, immigrants in the streets now. Yeah. One thing that was really common throughout Rubio's whole speech and some of the follow-up remarks by, like, Miller and Bessett is, like, a big thing that was undergirding their rhetoric was this assumption that if the target of violence is viewed as a right wing, then the attacker must be left wing. And any attack that goes against what they would consider like a right wing symbol, whether that's ICE, whether that's the president, whatever, then whoever is attacking that symbol must be coming from the left wing or have

Starting point is 00:21:24 some left wing motivation. And that's the way that they're trying to frame a lot of this. One of the old categories of violent extremism is called anti-government violent extremism, which is a very broad category, which can encompass some people who have explicit ideological drivers, but also can include people who are doing public suicidal violence, who will target the government or political figures as an expression of their own political and societal alienation. Someone who does this kind of public suicidal violence can often lack a recognizably coherent political philosophy that can be easily grafted on to our Democrat, Republican binary, with there sometimes being a mix of political beliefs across the left-right spectrum.

Starting point is 00:22:08 But now that Trump is in office, any attack against the federal government can be used by the Trump administration as an example of left-wing terrorism attacking a right-wing government. Take, for instance, the sniper attack in Texas, targeting an ice facility and vehicles, although actually shooting multiple immigrants. This shooter was described by his friends as being largely a political but leaned libertarian. This shooting also had a suicidal aspect in that he did kill himself after the shooting.

Starting point is 00:22:41 With Trump in charge of the federal government, nihilistic and self-destructive attacks against American society may take a form which can be characterized as left-wing violence. Another example of this is the plot against the UFC Freedom 250 event, where self-described Christian patriots who saw themselves as aspiring revolutionaries tried to start the Second American Revolutionary War by targeting high-level politicians and public figures at the UFC White House event. These people are not on what I would consider the left wing, but in the conservative coverage of this attack, this was framed as an anti-capitalist attack targeting Trump's cabinet. Towards the end of Rubio's speech, he started talking about this international strategy that they want to develop to handle this emerging threat. This is an international conference because we are facing an international, transnational threat. These are not distinct and isolated cells. They are interconnected networks. they do not recognize our borders.

Starting point is 00:23:45 They do not believe, in fact, in the nation state itself. They coordinate, they communicate, they travel, they train, and they act together, sharing the same infrastructure, sharing the same enemies, sharing the same mission. I'll play one more clip from Rubio here. Antifa militants and their comrades travel from across Europe and to the Americas to participate in each other's attacks, to funnel propaganda and training materials and target information through shared encrypted channels,

Starting point is 00:24:14 moving through underground networks of safe houses and finance and sustain their operations through transnational funds. And they work alongside hostile foreign states that share their mission, like Iranian proxy networks, who are increasingly intimately tied to leftist militant groups around the world. The Cuban regime's sprawling intelligence and ideological network help to build the far left in our country and in our hemisphere. And it remains inextricably linked to the far left groups and movements across and beyond the

Starting point is 00:24:48 West. Today's far left terrorists can raise money in one country. They can host their communications in a second country. They can receive training in a third country. They can recruit militants in a fourth country. And then together strike a target in a fifth country. A thing that we've never seen happen. fiction that's never ever happened this is like not once where are they training marco cuba this is like

Starting point is 00:25:15 a tom clancy novel that's he does think they're training in cuba actually i i shouldn't ask that yeah the only thing that functions like this is the central intelligence agency yeah like nothing else works like this well that's not entirely true like the global far right does to a degree work that's true right like there's an element now it no i wouldn't even describe it that way because that's more elaborate than i've ever seen the global far right do honestly but yeah their versions of that do occur where people are like traveling to one country for armed training or whatever. Yeah. I guess you could look back at the old like world anti-communist networks. Right. Exactly. Like league networks where they would do that. But like this. I mean, I wonder if they would consider stuff like traveling to like Rojava, right? A leftist

Starting point is 00:25:52 traveling to Rojava or traveling to like, you know, see like Zapatistas, right? If that's kind of what he's thinking of or if he's even thinking about it in like a real literal way. I can tell you specifically what he's thinking about in this. I mean, he's thinking about two things. He's trying to directly draw a comparison for political purposes to the influencers who went out of to Cuba recently. But the thing that he is actually thinking about is the way a chunk of the global far left worked in like the 60s and 70s. Gaddafi trained to the IRA, right? Like there were a lot of like, not all of them, but like there was, people did travel from left wing groups to other places and then carried out attacks in other countries. That was a thing that occurred during what is often called the golden

Starting point is 00:26:29 age of terrorism. This is a lot of this is just more Marco not leaving the 70s behind. Like, even though, again, it's 50 years since that kind of shit's been going on almost. And Gaddafi's dead. Like, the IRA isn't exactly active anymore either. We'll return to talk more about far-left transnational terrorism after this ad break. You've heard the chaos. Now you can see it. Do we want to jump right in?

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Starting point is 00:30:43 We are back. There's one last part about this Antifa Far Left Terrorism Summit that happened at the state department that I want to hone in on. And that is the remarks made by Stephen Miller. So brace yourself for a short clip of Miller here. President Trump issued a directive in our parlance. It's called a National Security Presidential Memorandum, or NSPM, NSPM 7, to be exact. That directs for the first time in American history,

Starting point is 00:31:15 all of our law enforcement and intelligence agencies to work together to disrupt, identify, defund, debank, arrest, and prosecute these political terrorists that are operating in our country. There's no point at which the left-wing terrorist is satisfied with his gains and ceases progressing. Inevitably, left to run its course, it always becomes a gulag. It always becomes the mass imprisonment of political enemies, the stripping of their rights and freedoms, inflicting immense pain, humiliation, suffering in order to establish complete and total control, control through psychological and physical and actual terror.

Starting point is 00:32:04 We must disrupt, identify, defund, debank, arrest, and prosecute these political terrorists, or else they will turn the country into a gulog and conduct the mass imprisonment of political enemies and establish total psychological control. It's just that we must do the genocide before they do the genocide against us thing. And that is a lot of how Miller and the ambassador for the counterterrorism bureau talk about this. So, like, we need to stop this before it gets bigger. We know it seems kind of small right now.

Starting point is 00:32:33 But by the time that everyone realizes this is a huge threat, then it's already too late. Then we've already lost. We have to end this thing right now as it still is, like, an infant. Like, we cannot let this thing grow up. That is very much how he talks about it. And he is really frustrated about the way that a test. by the Trump administration to do this have been curtailed or have not been able to really be followed through on to the extent that he wants. And he has a specific thing that's been happening

Starting point is 00:32:58 that he's really upset about. And that's a little term that some people in the audience might be familiar with called jury nullification. There's a real threat that those who are not themselves terrorists, but who support left-wing violence, will create the conditions that allow that violence to go on without any meaningful inhibition. So to be specific, we've seen some of our nation's cities in America, like Washington, D.C. in New York City, something against an American term, but it's known as jury nullification. This is when a person is obviously guilty of a crime, but the juror, because they're ideologically sympathetic to the perpetrator, will not sentence them to the crime which is obviously committed. We've seen in the United States again and again,

Starting point is 00:33:50 Individuals who are part of left-wing organizations who've committed assaults against ICE officers or federal law enforcement who've been brought to court where clear evidence has been presented against them that the jury has refused to convict for purely political reasons. When you've reached that point, it demonstrates how deeply the cancer has begun to infest your society. According to a new report in Just Security, quote, nearly half the cases nationwide brought against protesters and immigrants for assault against a law enforcement officer or, dismissed by judges, withdrawn by prosecutors, or resulted in jury acquittals. In at least 18 publicly reported instances, grand juries have refused to indict. At least 16 grand jury subpoenas have been blocked or withdrawn, and judges have dismissed or prosecutors have dropped at least 79 cases relating to ICE protests or federal law enforcement surges across D.C., Chicago, Minnesota, and Los Angeles. In a period of two months, the U.S. Attorney's Office in D.C. dropped more cases

Starting point is 00:34:47 than it had in the previous 10 years combined, unquote. And that also shows the scale in which they're bringing these cases against protesters. This is something that Miller is really upset about. This is something that is severely prohibiting the administration's ability to go after, quote-unquote, left-wing terrorism, what they view as left-wing terrorism. And he's really frustrated about this. Here's one last quote from him. Quote, one of the hallmarks of left-wing violence and terrorism

Starting point is 00:35:12 is its completely protectual and disingenuous appeal to civil liberties. an effort to shield its own violence. This is the tactic that the left always uses to try to protect itself from facing criminal punishment. It is essential that we are wise enough and strong enough to understand that these appeals must fall on deaf ears. We must stay the course and be completely unflinching in the pursuit of justice against these enemies of civilization, unquote. And Miller and Rubio went on pretty lengthy rants about how the threat of left-wing violence really is this civilizational threat against what is beautiful and what is good and what is natural. It's a quote from Miller.

Starting point is 00:35:52 Against this like ugly hatred that fuels the left, this sort of like, you know, like resentment for like failing at life. And now they want to attack those of us who like succeed, those of us who like build. Very fascistic like stuff at the end of both of their speeches. Very and also very Ben Shapiro stuff, to be honest. The whole builders and takers thing. I mean, he didn't start that. But it is interesting to see there's so many. old throwbacks to this because you can tell these these are guys who get started in right

Starting point is 00:36:18 wing politics before the current era because they keep hearkening back to stuff that's just like not as big a part of like the modern vernacular which is always interesting to me like how stuck a lot of these guys are in the past at a post conference press conference for foreign press the coordinator and ambassador at large for the bureau of counterterrorism reiterated that the u.s. counterterrorism strategy is still focusing on three main types of threat. groups, narco-terrorists, Islamic or jihadist terrorists, and far-left terrorists, and that they need to, quote, identify terror actors and plots before they happen. He calls far-left terrorism a resurgent threat with a clear upward trend, and that they are, quote, committed to addressing it before it

Starting point is 00:37:02 metastasizes, that they want to halt this scourge before it grows into something larger, more unified, and more deadly. The ambassador outlined three concrete outcomes from this conference. The first was on designations and accountability. And like Rubio, he promised that additional foreign terrorist organizations and specially designated global terrorist designations for quote-unquote far-left groups are under active review and are going to be incoming soon following the four designations of Europe-based groups last year. So there's going to be more left-wing or Antifa-related groups designated as foreign terrorist organizations. Secretary Besant talked about how legitimate nonprofit and

Starting point is 00:37:44 charitable structures are being, quote, exploited as a mechanism to conceal the movement of illicit funds to support political terrorism. And the ambassador talked about how international partners are discussing prospects to, quote, align their own legal frameworks to ensure that these networks cannot simply relocate across borders. As a part of these terrorist designations, the Treasury's Office of Terrorism and Financial Intelligence will take steps to dismantle the funding which sustains these groups. And the State Department is also offering payments at up to $10 million for information disrupting far-left terrorist financing. The second outcome of the conference was on operational coordination,

Starting point is 00:38:21 like deepening information sharing between partner agencies and coordinating on travel restrictions, and strengthening the protection of critical infrastructure like transportation and energy systems. It was also announced that Germany would host the next, quote-unquote, counter-terrorism workshop. The last concrete outcome of this event was new visa restrictions, quote, targeting members of far-left terrorists and aligned groups. For more on that, let's throw to our colleague James Stout.

Starting point is 00:38:51 Hi everyone, it's James coming at you with the second attempt to record this. I find myself traveling every Wednesday at the moment. So apologies for missing out on recording with everyone else. I will be back next week, I promise, and we will return to our usual shared conversation. But I did want to check in with everyone this week because I want to talk about a couple of things. Last week, for the first time in its history, the United States government attempted to remove someone through the use of the alien terrorist removal court. This is something that was first published by Seamus Hughes at Court Watch. I want to give credit book, credit to you.

Starting point is 00:39:25 Seamus spends an ungodly amount of time looking at PACER and other court documents that found this. Some background on this court, right? It's established in 1996 by the Anti-Terrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act. That law allows the Attorney General to designate someone of the terrorists and use this process if Title II removal will be. be a threat to national security. Now, the hearings in the ATRC, I will say they fly extremely close to the sun with regards to constitutional rights and the concept of a fair trial. There are lots of provisions in this law for classified evidence, for strict restrictions on the things that the defendant can obtain by discovery. The law also says, quote, an alien subject to remove it under

Starting point is 00:40:07 this title shall not be entitled to suppress evidence that the alien alleges was unlawfully obtained. That's great stuff. It's just worth noting right 1996 is before the start of the global war on terror and it therefore predates the existence of the prison camp at Guantanamo Bay, where the United States had a base at Guantanamo Bay, but the large-scale extrajudicial torturing of people, what they called enhanced interrogation at Guantanamo Bay had not begun in 1996, right? I'm not saying that they were not doing extrajudicial things in 1996. I'm just saying that like the giportugal thing. I'm just saying that like the giportical. as we understand it today, for those of us who have grown up with it as a political reality for most of our adult lives, didn't exist in that sense then. But I'm not saying that there were not people detained there. They probably were. I'm not saying they did not do extrajudicial things in pursuit of quite anti-terrorism. I believe they did. Bozberg mentioned this court. Judge Bozberg, remember him from the El Salvador Secoot cases, when he told the government that there was a procedure for someone accused of terrorism. Because the government basically said,

Starting point is 00:41:09 oh, well, these people are terrorists. Look at that. We put them on a plane, sent them to a death camp in El Salvador, essentially, right, a prison that very few people leave. Eventually, most of those people did leave in this case. But it was very unusual for someone to leave that camp. And what he said was, quote, so if there's a national security concern with having these hearings, whether via habeas or otherwise, you can always go to the ATRC, which will be a first, but that's what it's there for, right? So at the time, he's pointing to it, saying if you can't put the evidence for these people's, the need to remove these people out in public. That's why we have the ATRC when it used that. Trump administration said we can use that. That does not mean we have to use that. And that was their argument, right? The court is open not just to people engage in terrorism. It's also their families. It's also people accused of things like soliciting others to engage in acts of terrorism and raising funds. It also appears that once a person, they've submitted an application for removal through this court, they can detain a person. The court has this crazy website. looks like it was very hastily created. It's not a usual website for a court at all. Usually

Starting point is 00:42:14 court websites look like they were made in the late 1990s. They are very difficult to navigate and they have a huge amount of data that is hard to find. That's why a lot of us like to use court listener or some other website rather than going directly to the court pages which can be very hard to navigate. This page lists the judges where each of the judges comes from a different US circuit and it has the two documents that the court has made available so far. One is pretty much all blanked out. The other one is a court order in which the court chief judge asserts that, quote, the government could benefit for an opportunity for more thoughtful consideration.

Starting point is 00:42:49 So they've made an application to remove someone by this court, and that is a response of the court at this time, right? Obviously, this is very concerning, right? Immigration court, to begin with, I think, is getting closer and closer to being something that is sort of openly flouting the constitution and people's rights there. Immigration judges are not judges in the sense that you understand judges to be, even though some of them have worked hard to give people due process, and many of them are now being removed.

Starting point is 00:43:19 One could surmise because of that. But if we look at this in addition to the United States, adding groups in Mexico and Europe to the FTO list, foreign terrorist organization, for those who aren't familiar, it's especially concerning, right? And it's especially concerning when we look, another announcement this week, which explicitly cited NSPM 7,

Starting point is 00:43:38 which we've spoken about lengths on this show, limiting visas for people. It calls anti-fascist and far-left terrorist groups. The announcement began, I'm going to quote from extensively here, right. Far-left terrorist and align groups use sophisticated, organized networks to perpetrate violence as a political tool, seeking to implement an extreme political vision through intimidation and coordinated campaigns of terror. It is a strategy that explicitly aims to undermine the political foundations of free and self-governing societies, utilizing bombings, assassinations, and,

Starting point is 00:44:08 other forms of terrorism to silence speech, limit political opposition, change policy outcomes, and sabotage political processes. This announcement also said that it, quote, targets members of far-left terrorists and other aligned groups who have supported or incited acts of terrorism, supported violent criminal activity, participate in economic sabotage, finance, recruited or provided logistical support for violent or criminal actions committed by far-left terrorists and other aligned groups, and or facilitated the convergence of far-left terrorists and other aligned networks for the purposes of violent action. Some of these are pretty broad, right?

Starting point is 00:44:41 Economic sabotage. Normally I would say with ludicrous has suggested, like, that could include BDS. But I think given where we are, it's not crazy to think that, right? Some of these facilitating the conversions, right? Is that like holding a big summit is like the logistical support for violent or criminal actions? Does that mean bail funds? All of these things, cash bail, I guess is less of a thing outside the US. Does that mean people who have done jail support, right?

Starting point is 00:45:07 That kind of thing. This is super concerning. The State Department explicitly cites Section 212, subsection A, part 3, subsection C of the Immigration and Nationality Act, which deals with the inadmissibility of aliens. The section begins, quote, an alien whose entry or proposed activities in the United States, Secretary of State has reasonable ground to believe have potentially serious adverse foreign policy consequences for the United States is inadmissible. So that's a very, very broad category, right? notably it is not subsection B, which deals specifically with terrorism, which terrorists are inadmissible. This is a different one which deals with this very broad power given to the Secretary of State

Starting point is 00:45:48 to decide whose admission would be bad for the United States foreign policy consequences. They've used just before, right? This is a favourite of this administration. But again, right, this is an example of a law which gives massive leeway to, in this case, part of the executive branch, the Secretary of State. and it is therefore he's using that leeway, right, to do this. I think that we should be especially concerned when we combine this with some of the other things we're seeing, right?

Starting point is 00:46:18 We are seeing social media surveys of applicants, right? People have to submit their whole social media before they apply. We're seeing phone searches at the border more and more frequently, right? Famously, the JD Vance meme, but it's not uncommon to see these phone searches at the border now. We have also seen this week the elimination of duration of status for a number of visas, F1s, being probably the most numerous, F1 being a student visa, right? Also, some foreign journalist visas, other visa types is well included there. But I want to focus on the F1s because I think that will be the one that impacts the most people.

Starting point is 00:46:50 So generally, with an F1 visa, once you maintain status, i.e., once you are still in school, you could keep your student visa, right? Now these include like a time limit on the duration of the visa. For some people, this will be a serious issue. If you are entering, for example, just speaking from experience here, if you are entering a program in the United States in the humanities, and you are entering with a bachelor's degree, right, not a master's degree, you will then have to advance to candidacy, right, complete the requirements for your master's degree and demonstrate competency in two languages.

Starting point is 00:47:26 Let's assume you are not someone who is multilingual. That could take a while, right? like, depending on how strict the testing is at the particular university you go to, then you will have to research, then you'll have to write, then you will have to do a dissertation. These time limits on the F1 visa are less than the nominal time to degree at some institutions. And that means that it's going to be very hard for graduate students, especially to come to the United States, to do those degrees. That combined with this denial of visas thing is going to have an impact on the way

Starting point is 00:47:59 campuses look in the United States. And it's going to have a broader impact than that. Of course it is. But this is a thing that I have direct experience with, right? F1 student visas are numerous. I've taught dozens, if not hundreds of F1 students. I came on a student visa when I did my PhD. And like one of the reasons that people come here, and this is something that I've heard from so many people, is that like this country has a Bill of Rights and the very first amendment to the Constitution guaranteed freedom of speech. And that isn't the case everywhere. and that is a thing that is good, but it is more and more and more under attack, especially for foreign students, right?

Starting point is 00:48:39 We've seen this right from the very beginning of the Trump administration, and I believe that this will be part of that same attack, right? When we look at all these things together, these are the clearest signposts we have seen yet to the new McCarthyism, right? We can talk about what Rubio said about Cuba. We can talk about this Antifa summit, which I will talk about soon in more. depth, but it is not hard to draw a line from, for instance, the prosecution and the persecution

Starting point is 00:49:05 outside the legal system of Lincoln Brigadiers, right, people who volunteered to fight fascism in Spain to what is happening today. And it is sad, but not shocking, to see yet another shameful aspect of this country's history resurfacing and becoming policy again. So I guess I'll just finish up by saying, if this has impacted you, if you are someone who's recently had a visa refused if you are somebody who was trying to get in on F1 visa and is now finding shit, I don't think I can do my degree in that much time. What do I do here? I always want to tell stories about people, not just about government announcements. So you can hit us up. Coolzone tips at proton.m.me if you'd like to talk about that. Thanks, and I'll be back with everybody

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Starting point is 00:53:53 This would be on Monday about Cuba's history of trying to overthrow or manipulate U.S. politics via left-wing activists and quote-unquote left-wing militants going back to the 60s. When they say going back to the 60s, basically what I mean is pretty much exclusively. The 60s and 70s is almost everything in this stuff. document that relates to the U.S. directly in any way. The document, which is basically, this is, just to give you a little bit of background, this is all Rubio, right? Not just what Gare has been talking about, but particularly trying to drum up fear and panic around Cuba and justify an invasion or regime change in Cuba. That's been his whole fucking life goal for a

Starting point is 00:54:33 very long time. There's a pretty good Guardian article from last year with the title, Marco Rubio Neer's goal of toppling Cuba's government. And I want to read a, brief quote from that. The campaign against Cuba's government is the culmination of a personal pursuit spanning decades. In a video released on Cuban Independence Day this week, Rubio said in Spanish that a U.S. embargo was not the reason for the country's privations, telling Cubans that currently the only thing standing in the way of a better future are those who control your country. All roads have been leading to Cuba for Rubio, said a person who has known Rubio since his time as a local politician in South Florida. He has wanted this for a long time, and now he finally

Starting point is 00:55:06 has the authority to reach that goal. Now, Trump has made a couple comments that make people believe he is in the process of planning to try and force the government of Cuba out one way or another. Last Thursday, he told reporters, other presidents have looked at this for 50, 60 years doing something about Cuba. And it looks like I'll be the one that does it. So I would be happy to do it. Now, hard to say is that actually means anything. Trump says a lot of stuff that doesn't come true, but there's been real world reasons to believe that he seriously intends to do this. I mean, first off, what happened in Venezuela, right? Where we used our special operations forces to take out and extradite a legally elected, well, to extradite the president of a sovereign country, right?

Starting point is 00:55:48 This is something that, like, you've had, like, a lot of planners in the Pentagon talking about for years is like, well, we could use these guys to just deal with problems at the top, right? And for Rubio, there's a lot of speculation that Venezuela was kind of a proof of concept for him, right? That we could, in fact, use a very small footprint force, get the current ruling regime out of there or enough of them that they're not willing. to fight back anymore. And that might be something that the U.S. military is capable of doing. I don't have a great sense as to Cuba's defensive capacity or how functional they would be at doing this or how much support the regime would enjoy in the event that the U.S. tried this or how much that support would matter. It kind of depends on the weapon systems they use. At the moment, we know that the U.S. Nimitz and its strike group have recently been brought

Starting point is 00:56:33 into the South Caribbean Sea as part of an ongoing military buildup. And there have been some other signs that the regime is planning to act. Axios recently published in articles that cited administration estimates that Cuba now has some 300 military drones, quote, and was considering using them to attack a U.S. base at Guantanamo Bay, U.S. ships, or even targets in Florida. Miami, your days are numbered. Now, folks, I'm going to walk you through some stuff. First off, we don't actually have hard evidence that they bought any of these drums. There was some earlier reporting, and I'm sure they have been talking with Iran, and I know that they have ongoing defense agreements with Russia, and I wouldn't be shocked if they had bought like 300 of these like Shaheed-style cheaper suicide drones.

Starting point is 00:57:15 Here's the thing. The night before we recorded this, Ukraine launched a major attack on Moscow using 400 drones. If Cuba does have 300 Iranian drones, that is roughly enough to carry out an offensive against U.S. forces for two to three seconds. Perhaps a little more, maybe more like 15 to 20, you know, but it's not an invasion force. It's not really a defensive force. It's not really a defensive force. And we also don't know that they even have them, right? It wouldn't be weird if they did, but this isn't any reason to believe there's any kind of a threat coming from Cuba. The fact that they're trying to really hype up 300 drones, it's 2026. You can run through that in an afternoon. Yeah, and also, like, I just want to be very clear. Cuba is not planning to launch strikes on the

Starting point is 00:57:57 United States. Come on. Like, look at the last 60 years of history, right? We had one big dust up with them over the fucking Bay of Pigs. And obviously, like, Cuban government funded and sent soldiers and doctors and other stuff into a variety of countries, and that led to conflicts in places like Africa with the U.S. But there's never been any direct aggression from Cuba towards the United States. No. We're not in danger from them. One of the most ridiculous things you could do today is watch the celebrated Aaron Sorkin movie,

Starting point is 00:58:25 A Few Good Men, which is entirely about how, well, you know, you don't understand how difficult it is protecting America from Cuba. You know, we really, we got to be extra crazy to keep the Cubans off the walls of the United States. Like, it's fucking nonsense. And it's, Marco is number one. Marco comes from a Cuban-American background. His whole family hates the Castro government. He has wanted and seen himself as ordained to destroy the communist government in Cuba for his entire life. That doesn't mean that there's any kind of realistic threat here or any real reason to feel like any kind of actual danger. And you can see that in the report itself, right? There's even some bits here where they

Starting point is 00:59:03 almost admit it, right? I'm going to read one segment. The Cuba. The Cuban campaign against America is unique. It is irregular and covert, even at the peak of its military power. Havana never possess the capacity to defeat the United States at a conventional armed conflict. Instead, the Cubans perfected a new model for a long war of attrition, organized around espionage, infiltration, sabotage, proxy networks, and a revolutionary infrastructure designed to turn America against itself. Did Cuba do that?

Starting point is 00:59:27 Did Cuba turn America against itself? And also, if they've protected a war of attrition, why are they out of gas? and like the United States is the healthiest economy in the world. I mean, it's because we stole a bunch of shit. But there's no evidence that Cuba's done some sort of horrible damage to the U.S. And in fact, all of the damage says otherwise that we've continued to fuck over the Cubans for goddamn no reason for decades. It's incredibly frustrating.

Starting point is 00:59:50 And again, the more you read this, the more you realize, unless he's talking about, like, shit that, because he just periodically talk about, like, fucking South America and some of the different, like, Cuban, like, state involvement there. But when he's talking about acts that can be traced. to Cuba that involved violence in the U.S. at all, it's just shit from the 60s and 70s, right? Which is like back when Cuba's economy was functional and they had the backing of the USSR. And also, like, none of it ever came close to doing serious damage to the United States as like a national, like as a nation, right? None of that, that was never in the fucking cards, you know?

Starting point is 01:00:22 It's very frustrating to have to even take any of this serious, but you do because they are going to try to blame and try to punish and imprison people based on this fucking fantasy, right? And one of the things, you've seen a lot of quotes, like when Marco came up to talk and give a speech about this report, he accused Iran and Cuba of funding both Antifa and the DSA, right? Like, come on. And he'll make these comments in his speeches. The actual report isn't even willing to go that far because when you get to the meat of the report, Marquito doesn't even have the guts to call the DSA a Cuban op. Quote, the DSA was not founded as a Cuban intelligence or influence front. It was born in 1982 as a fusion of socialist organizations and movements for both the old left and new left factions. And, you know, like, they're right that people in the DSA are very angry about what the

Starting point is 01:01:08 OS is doing to Cuba because they're out of fuel and starving and being continually harmed by our completely pointless boycotts and trade fucking wars. Like, there's not much more than that for most people to it. There's some weirdos out there, but... It is really interesting how carefully the report talks about DSA. Because, like, DSA's mentioned a lot. DSA is mentioned very frequently. But there's no direct connection.

Starting point is 01:01:33 DSA's mentioned 24 times in a 100-page document, but they're very careful to be like DSA's can be sympathetic to the Cuban government, but DSA is not a result of Cuban influence necessarily. No, and I think the argument they are making is that you had a split between the old left and the new left, and the Cuban government founded a bunch of new left factions. And because the DSA is a fusion of old left and new left factions, that means that they're partly a result of. Cuban operates.

Starting point is 01:02:04 Sure. That's what they're trying to argue, right? It's nonsense. Or build some sort of historical justification to if they go after DSA people or activists who have gone to Cuba to deliver humanitarian aid that builds some sort of framework to criminalize people who are sympathetic to people living in Cuba. Yeah. I think that's precisely what's happening.

Starting point is 01:02:25 And one thing that's kind of telling is even among news sources that are like sympathetic to the right and to the administration, No one's pretending that this paper isn't just Marco, like, pushing out his own personal vendettas. Like, I found a Washington Examiner article that summarized the report as Marco Rubio accusing the Cuban government. Here's an exact quote from the Washington Examiner. Secretary of State Marco Rubio accused the Cuban government of running one of the most sophisticated infiltrations of U.S. politics, in part using the Democratic Socialists of America.

Starting point is 01:02:55 So even with a lot of these articles, they're like, yeah, this is just Rubio fucking spouting off, right? Like, this is mostly, oh, Marco. And among some of like the crazy, like, anti-communist sites I've been reading, they're still like, well, there's nothing new in this. They didn't, because they are reading like, well, nothing past like the 70s involves the U.S. directly. Which isn't to say there's not real danger here, right? There was a, no, huge danger. One of the main activists that Code Pink, which was this organization that co-organized some of those aid trips to Cuba, is under federal investigation right now. And this indicates that despite how much of this is just Rubio having fun with this little pet project, this is.

Starting point is 01:03:31 does show where the targets of the administration are. Oh, yeah. And that can be the DSA and people doing humanitarian aid trips. And it's specifically because of that humanitarian aid trip, right? Like that gave Rubio a really good, like, you know, honestly, more than anything, I think just pissed him off because he hates the Cuban government more than anything. And the idea that anyone would want to, like, bring aid to the people in Cuba is, like, infuriating to him. Now, again, we know that Trump is in the process of planning to try and force the government of Cuba out one way or another. That doesn't mean he actually will, right? He hasn't committed fully to that yet. But given what happened in Venezuela and given what's going on in Iran, I think it would be foolish

Starting point is 01:04:09 to say, I don't think he's going to try, right? Like, I think that's not the smart. If I'm making a bet, I certainly hope he doesn't. I hope they get scared. I hope shit with Iran is bad enough that they chicken out. But I think it would be foolish to assume they're not going to try and unseat the government of Cuba, right? Yeah. I don't think that's the rational way to look at this, right? and whether this is all bluster or not, you know, is going to be seen. But as I said, the U.S. Nimitz and its strike group have moved into the South Caribbean. And there's a lot of talk about like, oh, we think the Cubans are planning an attack on Guantanamo. Last Thursday, Marco Ruby repeated his claim that Havana has weapons they acquired from, quote, Russia and China,

Starting point is 01:04:47 and that they host Russian and Chinese intelligence in country, which is also interesting that he's so stuck in the Cold War, he has to keep bringing Russia into it. Now, there's a big debate as to like, how come it? it is Trump, actually, to unseating the Cuban government. And that's always hard to tell because when he does talk about it, it sounds like, oh, he wants that feather in his cap. But you also get the feeling this is a thing where whoever he talks to last, as in a lot of cases, going to heavily set his agenda. And Senator Chris Murphy, who serves on the Foreign Relations Committee, said something like that, quote, I do think that as Trump gets older and he spends his days

Starting point is 01:05:19 sleeping and worrying only about his ballroom, he's increasingly susceptible to dangerous people around him with dangerous agendas. And there is a crowd of Cuba Hawks who have always wanted us to invade and who think they might be able to take advantage of an increasingly checked out old man, and I just think we have to be prepared for that. And honestly, I think Chris pretty much like that. Yeah, that's more or less right, Chris. I think that's, that's, that's basically an accurate summary. Seenest man in the room. Yeah. That sounds right to me. Let's turn to the midterm elections before we close. In Florida, the Groyper candidate for governor James Fishback, who I did an episode about a few months ago, is not going to win that

Starting point is 01:06:01 election. But he is polling double digits, which is bad. And worse, he is dominating youth polls. He has 51% in youth polls. That's ages 18 to 34. Really, a really dark look at a future of the Republican Party. Fishback is like barely even like a crypto-fascist. He's barely even hiding it.

Starting point is 01:06:23 I mean, he plays with dog whistles, but he's, also just openly says a bunch of like anti-Semitic stuff and very racist attacks, all with a sort of wink, wink, wink, nudge, in that classic Groyper charisma style. But there's another aspect of the fishback race I want to briefly mention is that there's been a lot of AI ads targeted against fishback where it has like AI generated video, you know, deep fake style of fishback with like the squad and Russia and poop. Putin and Alon Omar and Rashida Talab, foreign generals, Muslim leaders in the Middle East with hijabs. Basically, he's like welcoming all of these people into his home and they cut up an anti-Israel cake. And that's the ad.

Starting point is 01:07:12 It looks, I mean, like someone like me can tell it's AI, a boomer might not be able to. And this is something that Thomas Massey, since losing his race, has said that he believes, through talking with voters, specifically older voters, that many boomers and older voters believed the AI ads against Massey, that Massey was in like a thruple with like AOC and someone else, Elon Omar, I think, that he actually got calls, his office got calls asking if this was true. So these sorts of AI ads are a real problem.

Starting point is 01:07:46 Obviously, the fact that these are against fishback, I'm not being sympathetic to fishback here, but this is a more general societal problem. Moving on to another governor's race in Wisconsin, Democratic Socialist Francesco Hong is ahead in the polls, but many people are still undecided. In a Wedgwood poll from mid-July, Francesco Hong is up 38%. Mandela Barnes is 30% and David Crowley is 9%.

Starting point is 01:08:15 Though undecided, or supporting another candidate, is polling at 23% in that poll. So there could still be upwards of like 20% of people who are undecided. There's been some other polls in the past few days that show Francesca Hong about 15% above everyone else. So that is a good sign for her. I know there's been some organizers from New York and across the country going into Wisconsin right now to help with this last leg of the campaign. This is a very important race looking at what the future of the viability of democratic socialism is going to be in swing states. This past week,

Starting point is 01:08:55 David Crowley re-entered the race, which may split the moderate vote, which could help Hong win the primary. It's another thing to keep an eye on here. In Maine, Troy Jackson is set to be the Democratic Senate nominee after organizers and volunteers secured the vast majority of delegates for the nominee replacement convention. I've mentioned Jackson a few times on the show because he ran for governor with the endorsement of DSA and Bernie Sanders. He was the only person to received the endorsement of DSA. Platner did not. Jackson's a former state

Starting point is 01:09:29 lawmaker, a five-generation logger, very pro-labor, like the most legitimate working class pro-labor candidate. He's polling a little bit ahead of Collins right now, like about 3%, but this is going to be a very close race. This is going to be very tough. Another really close race

Starting point is 01:09:46 right now is the Democratic Senate primary in Michigan, with corporate and APAC-backed Haley Stevens going up against left-wing populist, Abdul El-Said. There has been a ton of outside spending the past few weeks, with multiple attack ads smearing El-Said as quote-unquote sexist. And these are all just for him, like, criticizing female politicians,

Starting point is 01:10:10 like criticizing Hillary Clinton and Michelle Obama, like not attacking them for being women, but doing very, sometimes actually very soft criticism of, like, their ability to improve the world as political, actors. But the playbook that Stevens and that larger campaign has been using has been trying to smear El Saeed as a, quote, quote, sexist podcast bro. This is the sort of last, last light of defense this style of liberalism has had, this going back to this sort of identity reductionism when they are faced with, you know, vast actual economic and policy differences between two candidates.

Starting point is 01:10:44 The only thing they can do is, oh, but Haley Stevens, I am a woman and this man must hate women. A-PAC is helping with this. They have already spent at least $15 million with other corporate packs helping Stevens with another $12 million. As of July 1st, there's already been over $46 million in ad spending, 74% of which supports Stevens. And there's a lot of money going in since that July 1st date as well. One of the pro-Stevens ads has manufactured a fake Obama endorsement using old clips of Obama talking about Haley Stevens because she worked with him like 15 years ago. Now Obama has declined to comment on this sort of manufactured fake endorsement, which is effectively just letting them do that. If he's not going to say, no, I haven't actually

Starting point is 01:11:34 endorsed in this race, then basically he's allowing them to lie about him endorsing Stevens in this race. Meanwhile, El-Said is on the news, almost every week getting grilled about why he doesn't support Israel enough. And Israel has been a very important part of this race. This is in Michigan. Michigan was a big part of the Uncommitted Movement. And Stevens is a ridiculously pro-Israel candidate who has voted to send tens of billions of dollars in unrestricted aid to Israel, has stopped the Lebanon War Powers resolution, has banned the State Department from citing Gaza Health Ministry death tolls. And Stevens also sees Israel in her dreams. Congress, I will continue to fight for the people of Israel.

Starting point is 01:12:25 I will continue to fight for Israel's existence. Israel comes to me in my dreams. I see Israel's future. Meanwhile, El Cid wants to abolish ICE, fight for Medicare for All, and cut off all aid to Israel. He's certainly running a downstream of Zoron-Mamdani-style campaign with his videos. He has declined to explicitly call himself a Democratic Socialist, but there's a lot of similarities in his platform to some other DSA candidates like Zoron. Though El-Said is not endorsed by DSA, but he is running with backing of the UAW and the Working Families Party.

Starting point is 01:13:05 Speaking of elections, let's close out by talking about election security, because on Thursday night, President Trump delivered what was promised to be a very important address to the nation on election security. The speech started out as a basically mini version of his last state of the union before he announced the release of heavily redacted CIA documents on how China tried to influence our past elections, intelligence reports on possible vulnerabilities in our election infrastructure, and finally claiming that 250,000 non-citizens are registered to vote, with no further details or evidence of that number. Basically, this whole speech was a big ploy to try to pass the SAVE Act to restrict mail

Starting point is 01:13:51 and voting and disenfranchised voters with heightened ID requirements. Trump also talked about how China had stolen election data. What actually happened was China downloaded publicly available voter data in 2022 that the Trump admin now claims could be used by foreign countries to fraudulently vote. in our elections. And of course, China was looking at possible influence operations, as many foreign countries do. Russia has done foreign influence operations. That's not changing vote tallies or hacking into voting machines.

Starting point is 01:14:30 That's doing disinformation campaigns, which, as we've seen with tenant media, Russia has certainly been involved in recently. And according to some of these documents, China was looking into, if they wanted to, to run influence operations for the 2020 election, and they actually declined to. After Trump's address, reporters questioned John Solomon, a former right-wing journalist, who Trump brought on to his election task force to investigate possible voter fraud. And Solomon clarified that there's no evidence that any foreign power tampered with U.S. voting machines or manipulated the vote count.

Starting point is 01:15:08 Did you acknowledge that there were no votes changed in 2020? All I can acknowledge is what the intelligence shows. I only know the Intelligence Committee has zero evidence that someone has flipped, that a foreign power flipped a vote in 2020, 22, or 24. And you have no, you're able to acknowledge that we're not through all the documents. You're able to acknowledge that Venezuela has not tampered with voting machines in the United States. No, the intelligence is very clear. They did it on their own machines. Why is important that they did it on their machines? Their machine protocols are the same as America. Why? Because for a long time, they did. And so the 2020 election was in fact the results of,

Starting point is 01:15:44 as we of the American public. I'm still researching. So let me, let me, this is the first. But there's no intelligence. Not yet. You got to go. There is no intelligence at the election. It would have said that Donald Trump was brought on.

Starting point is 01:15:55 The president said that tonight. On Friday, the day following Trump's address, DHS Secretary Mullen announced that regardless of if the Save Act passes, he will institute mandatory changes to election security, including scrubbing states' voter roles. We are going to make our security enhancements mandatory, meaning that if these states want to grant and they want to be reimbursed to work or to run federal elections, they're going to have to implement security issues, just security issues. We're not trying to get into anything else, but we're saying that the machines have to be secured and that your

Starting point is 01:16:43 voter restoration list needs to be scrubbed. If this actually happens, this could possibly lead to many people thinking they are registered to vote who are actually not come election day and then be unable to vote. This is a voter disenfranchisement tactic. Secretary Mullen later directly contradicted what John Solomon said the night before saying that, quote, we know for sure that foreign adversaries have vital pieces of our voting machines and the quote-unquote key to the back end of these machines.

Starting point is 01:17:17 We know that they can change voter registration and your vote. We know it's possible. There's not a question. It's not even for debate. Finally, on Wednesday, the House advanced a bill to stop insider trading, except Republicans added

Starting point is 01:17:36 save-act-style measures into this bill to pass new voter ID requirements to please Trump. And part of why they put those SAVAC style measures into this bill is so that they could attack Democrats in upcoming elections for voting against a bill to stop insider trading. Literally seconds after this bill was voted on, the White House rapid response accounts started posting, quote, disgraceful 198 Democrats just voted against banning members of Congress from trading stocks while they're in office. They're corrupt. As you can see, a very transparent ploy to manufacture a vote to be used in elections to attack Democrats for being corrupt. This quote-unquote insider trading bill will now go to the Senate with those Save Act style voter ID measures included.

Starting point is 01:18:27 All right. Thank you for that, Gare. And last but certainly not least, we've got one more edition of the tariff song. And then talking about tariffs after it. All right, let's talk tariffs. So long ago in a galaxy far, far away, which is to say really, truly not that long ago, we did an episode on the hideously illegal terrorists Trump imposed under the quote-unquote authority of Section 122 of the Trade Act of 1974.

Starting point is 01:18:59 These are the ones that are based on this completely manufactured crisis about the U.S. facing a balance of payments crisis, a thing that cannot happen and is not happening. Now, these tariffs, which is just a general 10% tariff on all goods, are set to expire on Friday, July 24th, quite possibly the day you were listening to this. So, on Monday, July 20th, Trump took the most dramatic tariff action he has taken since the Supreme Court found he was illegally using the International Emergency Economic Powers Act to apply tariffs in February. By the time you are listening to this, presumably he is going to have unleashed a wrath. You know, I was originally going to say raft, but wrath actually works too of new tariffs, but as of the time of recording, the one that has been revealed specifically is that he is imposing a 50% tariff on goods imported from Canada, or some goods imported from Canada.

Starting point is 01:19:55 Now, I'm going to get into what that tariff is actually going to do in a second, but the important thing here is not this specific tariff itself, but the legal authority Trump is using to invoke it, he is invoking Section 338 of the so-called Smute-Hawley Terror Fact. If the name vaguely rings a bell, it's probably because Smoot-Hawley is best known for exacerbating the Great Depression to the extent that it is in basically every history textbook of the United States

Starting point is 01:20:24 that you will read in high school, will have this in it. This act, Smoot-Hawley, is the final frontier for tariff authority. It is the tariff big red button. It is a power that has never been invoked before, even by its creators, and I genuinely don't know if it even still exists. This is the tariff Rubicon, and Trump has just crossed it. Now, before we get into this more, let's talk for a second about Trump's nominal 50% tariff on Canada, which is actually much less of a big thing.

Starting point is 01:20:57 deal than it looks. The tariffs are supposed to take effect on August 19th and has about a million carve-outs for, you know, different kinds of Canadian goods, including, for example, things like energy products, which is a huge amount of what we import from Canada. So this is only going to apply to about 5.2% of Canadian trade with the U.S. I mean, obviously that is still kind of a big deal for that 5% of trade, but, you know, there's a good chance that these tariffs aren't going to go into effect at all, and that this is sort of a piece of trade leverage for negotiations with Canada. These, you know, even if they did go into effect, aren't going to be the biggest deal. I'm also going to briefly mention that we finally got the long-awaited pharmaceutical import

Starting point is 01:21:43 tariff. And when I say long-awaited, I have literally been waiting for these tariffs to be announced since the beginning of the administration to the point where I literally stopped covering the announcements that they were coming because they just never did. Apparently, they are also kind of a joke. They impose a 100% tariff on pharmaceutical imports, which would be a massive deal, except it starts in 2028. And eventually rises to 200% and like, okay, yeah, sure, Donald, whatever you say, that's not happening. None of the specifics of the tariffs matter at all, or matter much at all. What is significantly more important is Trump invoking 338 of Smoot-Hawley. Now, the reason he's doing this is pretty clear.

Starting point is 01:22:24 All of the other avenues he has to impose tariffs legal. actually have restrictions attached to them. Section 122 tariffs, as we've mentioned, are only supposed to be when there's a balance of payments crisis, and you can only impose a flat rate, and once he imposes them, they have to be renewed by Congress, and that's just not happening. So those are expiring on Friday. We've talked about the Section 301 tariffs a few weeks ago. Those are the ones that nominally are about forced labor, but those also have limits and

Starting point is 01:22:52 can only be imposed after a long and slow process of trade investigations. Now, obviously, the way that Trump has used both of them is illegal, but even trying to use them illegally, they have definite limits. Section 338 of Smoot-Hawley has basically no limits, and the one limit that's relevant for our purposes is a 50% maximum tariff rate. Otherwise, it lets the president impose tariffs on whatever country he wants for the extremely nebulous reasoning of that country, having placed, quote, the commerce of the United States at a disadvantage complair to the commerce of any foreign country. Trump can, you know, say any country is doing this for any reason. We are back to Calvin Ball nonsense. This nominal legal authority allows Trump to do whatever he wants trade-wise up to a 50% tariff.

Starting point is 01:23:41 Now, again, it is widely expected that by the time you're reading this, we're already going to have seen more tariffs. I'm expecting something akin to a smaller-scale version of liberation tariffs. by the time you're listening, you will know more. Now, the reason I'm talking about Section 338 of Smoot-Hawley, and the reason I've described it as like the big red button of tariffs, like it's the tariff rubicon, is because not only has it never been used before, right? You know, the Section 122 has also never been used before,

Starting point is 01:24:11 but this one, specifically, Section 338, there is a real question as to whether it's even still in effect. Now, the argument you will most commonly see, is that Section 338 has never formally been repealed and therefore is still on the books. This is a law that was passed in 1930. The Trump administration is making the argument that because it has never formally been repealed, it is still on the books. However, the problem is that there exists a thing called superseding statute or a, quote,

Starting point is 01:24:42 implied repeal. This is the argument that I've seen that this law is not still on the books. I've seen various versions of it, the one that is kind of spreading around now, for better or for worse, kind of for worse to some extent, is from Philip Zillico, who is a Hoover Institute guy and a history professor who's writing in Reason Magazine. So like, you know, these are not the people I would normally turn to in terms of getting legal analysis on everything, but I actually think there's a kind of a decent argument that they might be right. And their argument is that, okay, because of the way that, you know, laws can supersede other laws.

Starting point is 01:25:22 If you write a second law that is about the same thing as the first law and it covers explicitly the same thing, it can repeal the first law. It's sketchy. The courts don't like it functioning like that, but it does technically work like that. And, you know, Zillico argues that a whole train of statutes ranging from the Trade Expansion Act of 1916 to our old friend Section 301 of the Trade Act of 1974 cover exactly the same things and therefore have repealed the statute. I think that's actually plausible, and this is, you know, part of the reason why no one has ever actually tried to use this stuff, because

Starting point is 01:26:01 there have been subsequent legislation to describe these exact powers and describe what you can do with them. So whether it even still exists is extremely dubious. Now, this is probably not going to survive a challenge in court. But until the legal challenge actually winds its way through the courts, Trump is going to be free to do his Calvin ball nonsense. And we're back to, you know, 20-25-era Trump just declaring a tariff is happening on a country every morning. Now, on a broader level, right, what's happening here is that the way the Supreme Court has been doing shadow-docket decisions have allowed Trump to simply keep breaking the law and seizing more illegal power and then using it until the Supreme Court gets around and taking that power away.

Starting point is 01:26:46 Now, obviously, this is not true of everything he's been trying to do. With tariffs in particular, he's been extremely successful in simply applying the tariffs and then keeping them into effect until the legal challenges go through the courts. That looks like what's going to happen here, which is going to give him probably another, I mean, it's going to give him at least half a year, probably, of the ability to just do whatever bullshit tariff policy he wants, which means another year of completely unhinged economic instability for the entire global economy. It means another year of all, you know, of supply lines being degraded, of prices increasing, and of all of us getting absolutely screwed.

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