It Could Happen Here - Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #10

Episode Date: April 4, 2025

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I'm joined by Robert Evans, James Stout, and Mia Wong. It is Liberation Day in America, everyone. How do you feel? I feel liberated. Free at last. Free at last. Thank God Almighty. We are free at last for being able to afford things.

I am so, so liberated right now. Unchained from the burden of having money. Yes, yes. Well, as the Buddhists say, freeing yourself from attachment is really the path to Nirvana. Trump really is our first Buddhist president. He is, he is.

One thing they say about him. That's right. He may be the new Dalai Lama. Who can say? The Dalai Lama. And he hasn't. But yeah, yeah. And the priests who look for him after he dies when he comes back.

This guy's. Unfortunately, they're probably on a fucking travel ban list now. Oh my God. There's, I mean, pretty good chance they're in ice custody at the moment. If I understand Buddhism. Oh my god, I mean pretty good chance they're in ice custody at the moment Well, I think we should just get right to the most pressing news which is Line go down line line is on its way down Line in freefall currently yeah, it's funny because they chose, they were supposed to initially,

I think it was like gonna be 3 p.m. or something EST, two or three was the initial time they wanted to announce this, which would have given the stock market a couple of hours. On April 2nd, right? Yeah, on April 2nd. It would have given- Liberation day.

On liberation day, there would have been a couple hours for it to take effect. And they attempted to mitigate this, I guess in the hope that we would all get over it overnight. We would forget. Yeah, we did. Some other shit would happen. Before the new prices even came in,

we'd be like, ah, now I'm on to the next thing. But the Dow and the NASDAQ, all plunged. Because it's clear if the president is like deliberately shifting an event to not hurt the stock market, that's going to hurt the stock market. You know? Yeah. It's good when you see a 90 degree angle on the old stock market graph. That's when you know someone's really crushing in the economic department.

And so far, we were recording this a little afternoon on Thursday, the April the third. So just in the course of today, major stock indexes have dropped by about 5.6%, which means about $2.7 trillion in market value, which will be the largest decline since March of 2020. Sick. So we are, it is looking like this is going to be at the very least a stock market decline in line with the one that came as a result of the global pandemic with the the noted caveat that there's really no reason to believe it will get better at any point.

Yeah, you can't really vaccinate against you. Now, I'm not qualified to give financial advice, but I think everyone should pull out your 401k right now. Go to the bank, withdraw all your money, of your money your accounts right every bit of it put it into the worst tasting Survival foods yeah, and you're gonna want to buy Kel-tex lots of Kel-tex in a caliber no one else has Five-seven yeah 32 ACP I won the 32 ACP that's it. That's it James everyone buy 32 ACP handguns Yeah, it succeeded in ending one world war and it won't let us down

We call that doing a Hitler but in a good way someone here has to be vaguely responsible and say don't fucking do that Do none of those things zero zero of those empty your accounts get hard cash. Yeah Yeah, Mark Cuban told people to do that Absolutely not. Mayor endorses Reagan coin as the exclusive safe source of diamond savings. You're gonna wanna put every dime you've got in pressed Latinum.

Now I know that that's the currency from Star Trek and does not exist. Nevertheless, cancel your accounts. Put it all in Latinum. I mean, it's gonna exist in like what? Like 40 years per the Star Trek timeline? Exactly, get in on the ground floor. If it's not already a meme coin

10 minutes after this comes out. More stable than your 401k right now. You can be rich just in time for money to stop being a thing. There you go, there you go. This is why we're launching Cool Zone Coin guys to keep you all safe from information. I've been saying this for years.

It's redeemable for whatever money the Ferengi use when they exist. We should probably talk about why the stock market is doing poorly. So I think, Robert, you can handle this segue. Well, you know. Wait, what is that? Oh, my God, is that Mia Wong's theme music by God! Tary, if you don't like it Rockin' to Casbah Rockin' to Casbah Tary, if you don't like it

Rockin' to Casbah Rockin' to Casbah Oh, God. That was a great purchase, you guys. I mean, can we all agree? Worth every penny. It really was. The best financial purchase we've made is the Tariff Talk theme song. We're gonna get so much mileage out of that thing. It's an unbelievable deal. Absolutely. We're gonna be using this fucker for years.

At least something good came of this. When you're struggling to get by with your family, just remember the song. Yeah, yeah. This will keep you warm as you huddle around a barrel waiting for the the new police Which are just called murder police to reach your shanty down Anyway, yeah Let us talk tariffs power sections of the left have long argued is in logistics It was logistics that allowed the capitalists of the 1970s and 80s to crush the labor movement by enacting the so-called spatial fix to the crisis of capitalism.

By shifting production from countries where workers' movements were strong to countries where violence against workers was easier and workers were thus poorer and more exploited, CEOs could pit workers against each other in an endless race to the bottom. These practices became known as offshoring. Infused with the international attack on unions and the power of workers heralded in the U.S. by Reagan, together they crushed the workers movement and implemented neoliberal austerity throughout the globe through a regime that is colloquially known as free trade. Now there was of course resistance to this. Maybe most famously the uprising of the Zapatistas in Chiapas in 1994 on the day that NAFTA went

into effect. But for all of the victories and all of the spaces that were carved out, it is still the CEOs, the bosses, and the capitalists who rule the world. However, in the wake of their defeat, sections of the working class came to see their own power as a product of the nation, of masculinity, of American jobs for American workers. In this view, you didn't need to form a union, you didn't need to organize, you didn't need to fight the bosses who exploit you. All you needed to do for the high-paying blue-collar jobs of the 1960s to return was getting rid of the immigrants

and bring jobs back home. This American nationalist ideology was extremely useful to the ruling class. It allowed them to turn the rhetoric of the old base of the workers' movement into a fascist movement, which they could then use to smash any genuine workers' struggle and then ride to power to impose more brutal austerity and more pro-capitalist reforms to, in their view, make it impossible for their power ever to be challenged again. But a strange thing happened. In the nationalism bred by the defeat of the workers' movement, the human personifications of the capitalist bubble economy in Donald Trump and Elon Musk have come to see their

own victory as defeat. They became convinced that the trade deficits, which from a capitalist perspective, simply do not matter as long as companies are making money Yeah Yes, they don't matter for shit Who gives a fuck? What you are calling a trade deficit is us getting things we want from people Yeah, yeah, it's buying stuff like I saw a good post

It was like you don't have a trade deficit with your dentist You just pay them to fix your teeth like yeah I was I I was told at one point in this nation's greatest living previous moment of crisis that what we needed to do was Go buy things to make it better Not anymore, but nope because because these people Donald Trump and Elon Musk and The cadre of weird white nationalist fanatics that surround them, have absolutely convinced themselves that if you have a trade deficit, you are being ripped off by foreigners. Yep. Yep. And so they concluded that we needed to put tariffs on fucking all of the rest of the world in order to bring American jobs back to Americans.

A new national autarky for a fascist world. Now, the ruling class, all the capitalists, all these fucking goddamn Goldman Sachs motherfuckers, financial analysts, all of these CNBC dipshits, all of these motherfuckers at BlackRock and all of the global hedge funds, and all of these motherfuckers, all of the tech dipshits, all of the people who backed trump to a hilt simply assumed

That none of these tears would ever happen that it was all campaign bluster that he was lying out of his ass and you know Obama again, I've said this before ran on abolishing NAFTA So there was you know, and what the fuck ever came from that, right? We of course fucking try to tell them otherwise We tried to tell them that they could not fucking control the fascist beast, that one day it would rise to consume them all along with us. They didn't care. They backed Trump anyways because they thought they would get fucking tax breaks. And now, Liberation Day is here.

Don't forget crypto. They were really bullish on that. Crypto! Yeah! All of these motherfuckers. They really thought that Trump was going to fucking, that literally all Trump was going to do was punish the transgenders, get rid of woke, and give them tax cuts. Mm-hmm. Yep.

And now the tariff walls have gone up. The old world is dead. The new world struggles to be born. Now is the time of monsters. Now we're in what I'm referring to as the Chinese century. I came up with this this week on my own. Oh wow, yeah. Yeah, own. Oh, yeah Yeah, okay Yeah, good now that's if that's of course named after Chinatown in San Francisco, which Garrison is very bullish about Positive positive real estate developments there. You're big into real estate people don't know that Chinese real estate absolutely where you want to be right now both both in Chinatown and in actual China You put all your money in the Chinese real estate The bubble can't pop a second time can only go back up

It does there were so many like enemies on the verge of defeat in like the traditional US Geopolitical since like China's economy was doing great Russia could have been easily pushed to collapse and we were just like yeah No, no, no, you know what's better? We're gonna shoot ourselves right in the dick. Which we've snatched defeat from the Jaws of Victory. We're gonna shoot ourselves in the dick with a bullet that Venmo's both of you guys. That's right. It's great, we dug up the Cold War,

resurrected it and then lost. Yeah, it was just to lose? Yeah, yeah, it's beautiful. Yeah, it's sort of like Michael Jackson coming back for Space Jam. If he had immediately Like fucking thrown a basketball so hard at the Bugs Bunny skull that it put him at traction. I'm sorry Wait, did you just say Michael Jackson Jordan?

Different different movie maybe better, you know, he always he always performed well around kids, so Yeah, I love a space jam it's good Anymore garrison it's forever tainted now. Let's let's talk about the nature of like what's actually going down with these tears Yeah, let's get to the tariffs terrible terrible terrible. That's right garrison. Nope. Yeah, so okay So let me let me just let me just read off some of the ones that are going to fuck everyone great 54% tariff on all goods from China This is a 34% tariff that is being added on to the 20% tariff that was already on There is a 20% tariff on all goods from the EU

46% on Vietnam, which is fucking devastating because it's a huge amount of capital from China. Also, speaking of the China panic, our strongest geopolitical ally in the region. Yeah, it's Vietnam! Against China, too. In terms of having a military, right? Yeah, a country that we've been discussing going to war for quite recently. Yeah, like we just, we have literally, and this is the funny thing about all of these,

Vicky Osteweil pointed this out, the more closely allied with the US the more fucked you got by these It's such a weird move. Yeah. Yeah, what 24% tariff on Japan? What is it not like 80 or 90 percent on fucking Cambodia? Why yeah? Yeah, yeah So what we'll get to why in a second I want want to also cover, so there's a 37% tariff on Bangladesh, which is going to be devastating for, I mean, a lot of textile imports. 25% on South Korea, so fucking rip you ever getting a phone again. 32% on Taiwan, so rip the entire tech industry. Fucking rip Taiwan too. These tariffs are going to devastate the international economy. Okay, I have been angry about this since the fucking election. People have been

calling these tariffs a tax. That is just no. It is not what's happening here. This is like calling it a tax is to completely underplay how serious this is. This is not a fucking tax. This is the wholesale destruction of entire industries. And some of these industries like fast fashion Which you know has always been undergirded by the exploitation of workers in China to Bangladesh and also like in the US too But like you know fuck those things whatever they never needed to exist fuck them But like you know like you're probably not be able to fucking buy board games anymore because they're gonna be too expensive to produce Oh, it's gonna shatter games like tabletop gaming. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, it's done Like the economy as we knew it does not exist as if like this morning, right?

Everything that we've known about how this thing works is fucking done and some of these are just you know, like unbelievably hideously cruel So there's for example a 44% tariff on Myanmar. Yeah, which you know is a country Yeah devastated by a horrific war waged for a brutal dictatorship and also fucking suffering from a catastrophic earthquake And we're like fuck you eat shit 44% tariff also embargoed no like we've seized their government assets in the United States Yep, it is one of like Diego Garcia for instance yes There's one it's on the British Indian Ocean territory, which collective population is primarily US soldiers.

Yeah. Yeah, like Christmas Island is on there. Yeah. You know, and there's one more that I want to talk about, which is that, so Sri Lanka has been suffering from an unbelievably devastating series of economic crises and they're getting hit with a 44% fucking tariff in a moment when like they already haven't had enough dollars to fucking import fuel for their economy to function. So this is going to be devastating, not just for us, but for a whole bunch of people across

the world. And so this is this is the other aspect of this to you that's really fucking brutal is that for the US, right, we don't need other countries money. We don't need to have piles of any other countries money around, right? We can just buy things in American dollars. But if you are Sri Lanka, you need American dollars to buy oil. There are so many fucking things that you could only buy in American dollars. And when these tariffs go up, when the prices increase,

and when they can't fucking sell their stuff, that means that they don't have dollars. And that means that they can't get access to a whole bunch of the vital commodities that they need to survive. And this is just going to fucking devastate them. And I think that's been an angle that I really wanted to make sure we talked about because it's been, I haven't seen any fucking mention of it at all, even though those are the people who are going to suffer the most from this are people who are already completely on the

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How were they gonna calculate the tariffs on all of these countries right because they were saying it though that their tariffs were going to be a projection of like currency manipulation and like Value-added taxes and like all of these like oh, yeah subsidies to vital industries And you know and the question again was like literally how can they possibly? the vital industries and you know and the question again was like Literally, how can they possibly calculate the tariff rates of hundreds of different countries and taking into account all these things, right? The news that had been leaking a couple of weeks ago was that they were gonna do brackets What they actually appear to have done is ask chat GPT

It's entirely people have like reverse engineered the prompts it It's almost directly just the chatgy, probably chatgy. There's a couple different engines that gave almost identical responses, but it's probably... It's amazing that they're doing the same shit as like my undergraduates and the people are doing the same shit in the response. I'm sure your undergraduate spent a little more time trying to hide it, James. Most of them are smart enough to like pad it a little bit so that you can't put the prompt into chatgypt and find it. Yeah. And so my lowest effort under grades. I want to give a lot of credit to

the economist James Sirarecki, who's the guy who figured out their formula. So their formula, and this is drawing for something that I mean, I saw it from from James first. But like, so their formula is literally just you take a country's trade deficit with the US. And it's also important to note here that they're not counting services. They're only counting goods Right when again if you're if you're missing the products and just getting in services, that's half the economy as I understand it Yeah, yeah, that's that Especially the u.s. Provides an enormous number of services, you know But these people are fucking fascist and so they don't they they don't think that like services are fucking real, right? It's the same ideology that undergirds the whole thing about like service workers not being fucking real workers.

Literally the only real job is that one video of a guy wrestling with an oil derrick. Yes, that is the only job. Yeah, that is the only job. He was actually a manager and he was just doing that for the video. And was doing it very wrong. You gotta rub some mud on you. You gotta take some pieces of metal Move them around to where they're not supposed to go. That's that's when you're a real laborer

That's working only jobs are things where you wear safety toe boots and well and and that's and that's the thing though right because like their image of the world is is the Fascist image of the world and the fascist image of the world like labor is just masculinity Yeah, yeah, and that's like that's why they're fucking doing it like this And so you know and so the fascists have asked chat GPT How to do tariffs and what they got is again so they take the country's trade deficit and divide it by their total exports Yeah, yes now. This is nothing right like in economic terms. That's not how you do anything This is this is not a real thing like this is this is like trying to measure someone's height

By like dividing their favorite number by the average radius of an apple like You know what are we coming after me here? Okay, there is no scientific basis Robert for measuring height by dividing favorite number by Apple radius We simply must accept the truth of science. That's what you say Joe Rogan, and I feel differently the dictatorship of chat GPT is just it's so bleak yeah Yeah, it's just that they asked you PT It's a mix of they don't actually care or think this will affect them and also they legitimately think it's the smartest person in the world Yeah, yeah, it's smarter than them. Yeah

Maybe a good thing But not in this instance. Mm-hmm well and you can you can tell the extent to which they were relying on this and didn't calculate themselves because so after after It started to spread that this is just how they were doing it after James Sirwecki like calculated it The White House said no, no, no, no, no, hold on. No, no, no, that's not right We use an actual complex formula and so they released a fake formula But think about the formula right is that the formula is just it is literally just trade deficit divided by total exports

But they threw in two random variables as Greek letters But there's one on the top and there's one on the numerator, one on the denominator, and they're the same, so they cancel each other out. That sounds right to me. See, that's how you know they're smart, is because they're using Greek letters. Mm-hmm, yep. Mm-hmm.

Which Greek letters do they use, and which person's fraternity does it represent? I don't even speak Greek letters, so they are, they must be smarter than me. You know what, I rescind my complaints. This is how the economy dies, not through tragedy, but through farce. It's both. It's both. Yeah, tragefos, I think is what Mark's called it.

A lot of people are gonna die. You know, and I mean, like my actual serious line on this is that this is the great double bind of capitalism, is that we are all reliant, simultaneously We are reliant for our survival on the same economy that will make us all homeless. Right. Is the same economy that we need to fucking eat every single day that even in good times, this economy fucking strips from us the value of the labor we produce and hands us back a bunch of fucking scraps that pay for not enough of anything that we need. So even as our enemies, you know, tear apart the system that exploits us, we are the fucking ones who's going to suffer. Neoliberalism finally has in Trump produced its own gravedigger and our fucking job, the

job of every single one of us and every single person listening to this show, is to make sure that we also aren't the ones thrown into this fucking grave. And this is going to require a kind of organizing that is in some ways like but in some ways unlike anything we've done before we are we're about to experience a level of Unbelievable economic chaos that we sort of saw during 2020 But during 2020 there was you know as as bad as everything got The state stepped in and decided to do welfare reforms right like they gave people a bunch of fucking money Yeah, it wasn't enough, but they did it now none of that shit

You're the only people who are going to be able to keep each other alive And that's that's what we have to be doing right now is we have to be keeping each other alive until We are organized enough, and we are powerful enough to fucking run these people out They can't ever fuck us again like this we can resurrect Neoliberal globalism we can restore free trade. That's right. That's right. Bring it back to the Clinton era. Oh, God. One last thing we should mention is that, like, this has already united the entire world against us.

Effectively, people, countries who have never worked together before in their entire existence are working together. And unfortunately, polls also show Americans can distrust or the tendency to view like Canadians and the EU as Enemies is rising both for Republicans and Democrats. Yeah, so that's great. That's great. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool. Cool Yeah, and also, you know and like the thing to think the other thing that we have to do here and this is this is Literally our responsibility on this podcast and also the responsibility of like fucking everyone who is having conversations with another person Is that this is entirely Trump's fault He fucking did this like oh, yeah This is not fucking the EU or whatever the fuck whoever's doing retaliatory. Yeah, this is this is no one else ever wanted this

Yeah, yeah, no like the people who put Trump in power didn't want this. This is just him and so yeah, the the actual solution to this is all of us running this fucker out and not us getting drawn into his fucking bullshit wars with Canada or Greenland or whatever the fuck country he decides to invade in the next like year. Is that all for Tariff Talk? Yeah, that's all we got on the tariffs. I don't know what else to say. I mean, I'm just looking at the numbers right now, where the Dow Industrial is down to 1500 points since the start of the day. So things are looking very good. All of the lines, like if you look at the way in which the line went down,

there's like, it's just this direct vertical drop on the third. Yep. It's shocking. No, it is a 90 degree angle. It is, legitimately, if you set the Google stock viewer thing to a one day view, the drop is so shocking that it looks like it just started down. Yeah. It prompts you to turn your phone in the other direction.

I've never seen anything like it, but I guess no one has. Yeah. It prompts you to turn your phone in the other direction. I've never seen anything like it, but I guess no one has. Yeah. No, I mean, some of us, I guess people still alive in the 1930s. Yeah, I guess. Woody Guthrie has. My fucking grandma, I guess. Like... Yeah, it's great.

We did it in the 1930s. It was bad then, and it's bad now. Well, now that we got those pesky tariffs out of the way, let's talk about the actual most important thing to happen this week in the news. New Jersey Senator Cory Booker has broken the record for the longest Senate speech at 25 hours and 5 minutes. Yeah, that's horrible. Beating Strom Thurman's filibuster of the 1957 Civil Rights Bill by 46 minutes. We did it, folks. Excellent. Outstanding. Good. I'm just checking on our Wall Street bets and they're having a real

one today. That's pretty funny. I will say, I will say the thing about the Booker one, so if you were writing a parody of the Democratic Party You would write that Cory Booker did this and like did the did this filibuster and then immediately turned around and voted yes for a Clocher vote to allow Trump to appoint another nominee. Yeah, and that's exactly what they did Yeah, we can't even pair you can't pair you to them. It's beyond parody. I like yeah, it's astounding. It's astonishing It's not even a filibuster. He's not filibustering anything He didn't actively stop anything happening other than people not paying attention to I got a response from someone being like well

You know they didn't get to do anything on Monday, and I was like yeah They weren't really planning on it and things continued as normal Tuesday Yeah, yeah, and you know and here's the thing about that, right? Like, do you know how many Democrats there are in the Senate? Do you know how many hours you could filibuster them for if you were actually determined to fucking do this and on how many different things? We had a rotating series of Democrats. Yeah, sure.

If you tag teamed it. Yeah, but they're not. They're not willing to fucking do it. No, and they'd be stopped eventually. The Republicans would do something fucked up to stop it But at least you'd have tried yeah Yeah, and people would maybe take some fucking energy from that and even if you were gonna do this as a fucking show vote thing You could have voted no on the cloture motion to like fucking

Do the to like appoint the next nominee? They're just like no fuck you the fact that Chuck Schumer caved on the Republican budget from a few weeks ago and secretly got a number of Democratic senators to switch their votes to make it pass. And no one did this for that, which previously Democrats were talking about this budget bill, like it's the worst thing to ever happen, because it is a bad bill.

Yeah, it's really bad. And then they just caved last minute, or specifically Schumer and the people he talked to caved. And Schumer definitely would not have been in support of Booker doing something like this for that bill. But now Schumer gets to applaud along as Booker delivers a 25-hour, maybe like well-orated speech. But it was a very well-written speech. Like, technically it was good, but that didn't matter. It's just this pure show of like symbolic theater.

Yeah, what's the point? It's like if a congressperson got out and conducted like a perfect rendition of the Nutcracker like symphony of like the ballet portion of that on their own in front of like the Capitol building. Like, well, that's impressive. It's spectacle.

Like you're clearly very good at what you're doing, but it didn't change anything. Like it had no impact on the problems. Right? Yeah, yeah. Like you're good. I'll give you that. Cory Booker can deliver a fucking speech,

but that was really not what I was looking for. Yeah. Fiddling impressively while Rome burns. Thanks, Cory. Yeah, and every single moment that Trump is in power the way that they fucking Just rolled over for him looks worse and worse. He acknowledged it in the speech. He said I failed and so did we. We didn't rise to the moment and we let this horrible thing happen. Which I even I got a little briefly. Oh shit, maybe he actually recognizes like, no, okay.

Although because it took him like 20 hours to like break emotionally to the point where he could like admit that to himself. Acknowledge his deep, deep, deep failure. Yeah, but like it took having your brain be shattered by this like pretty impressive physical act that like destroys your body, soul and spirit And anyway, I think that's all we have to say about that. Let's go on an ad break and come back to discuss more sad And actually also possibly good news or at least bad for Elon Musk, which is good for us. Yeah My name is Brendan Patrick Hughes, host of Divine Intervention. This is a story about radical nuns in combat boots and wild-haired priests trading blows

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Venezuela no El Salvador. Well, no El Salvador. Yeah El Salvador the torture labor prison James Mm-hmm. Of course, we have to begin my segment today by saying good or Jibun a tape your rose beta Abdullah OJ lan whose birthday it is on the day that you're hearing this So if you want to plant if you want to plant a tree for a po take the rosary to Abdullah Ocalan, whose birthday it is on the day that you're hearing this. So if you want to plant a tree for Apo, get out there and plant your tree. Unfortunately, that is the only good news we have today. Border Patrol has spent most of this week touting the quote, lowest number of border crossings in history. It was shocklessness to hear that this is not historically accurate. Border encounters are way down. If there's one thing that I have

ever taught you, it is that border encounters are not the same as unique individuals because people are being sent directly back to Mexico and will tend to return attempting a different route crossing the border, right? Those are way down. And they're the lowest since they began publishing monthly data in 2000. But numbers were way lower in the 50s and 60s and before then. It's relatively immaterial. It's just sort of a nitpicky point, I guess. Today what I really want to talk about is the case of Mr. Kilmar Abrago Garcia. He was removed by the Trump administration to El Salvador to Secot in a way that they have admitted was a mistake. So we have to go back a little bit to understand Mr. Abdelghar Garcia's story and how we got here.

He was arrested in mid-March due to the United States government claim that he played a quote prominent role in MS-13, MS-13 being the Salvadorian gang. He'd come to the United States in 2011, he was fleeing gang violence. He was allegedly arrested in 2019 outside a home depot where he was standing with other men looking for work. However, the incident report for that particular incident gives other names, but not his. At that point, a Prince George's County Police Department detective filled out a quote gang worksheet and claimed that Mr. Abragol Garcia was associated with a member of MS-13. The evidence he cited for this was a Chicago

Bulls hoodie and the claim of a confidential informant. The confidential informant claimed that he was part of a group within this gang that was set up in a state that Mr. Abrago Garcia had never lived in. The United States in 2019, ICE argued that he shouldn't be given bond because of this alleged gang membership, right? And so he wasn't given bond, but through an asylum claim, although he didn't get asylum, he was protected from removal, right? So a judge ruled that he couldn't be removed back to El Salvador, where he would presumably face violence. protected from removal. When Mr. Abragó García's lawyers tried to interview the police detective who had filed this report accusing him of gang membership, they found no record of his

rest and that the detective has been suspended since then. The department in question also settled a lawsuit with its own cops over racism in the department. JD Vance, who has a law degree, right, the JD is I guess before and after his name, he has a law degree from Harvard, has claimed that Mr. Abragol Garcia is a convicted member of MS 13. This is not true. I can't find any evidence that he has any conviction of any kind. I'm going to quote here from a filing by the United States government. On the 15th of March, although ICE was aware of his protection from removal to El Salvador, Abragó García was removed to El Salvador because of an administrative error. So the government there has admitted in a court filing that they accidentally sent this

guy to the prison labor camp in El Salvador. According to ICE, acting field officer Robert Cerner, quote, he was an alternate as others were removed from the flight for various reasons. He moved up the list and was assigned to the flight. So it appears that they had a large list of people they wanted to put on this flight. This is interesting, right? It's an insight into their process for filling that first flight that they, some people they clearly didn't feel they had enough evidence for, but somehow this guy who again has never been convicted of having any membership of any gang, they put on this flight. His wife and

child are both US citizens and they have sued in court, that's why we're seeing this, they've sued for the United States government to stop paying El Salvador for his detention and for the United States government to demand he return. Vance has advanced a kind of unique legal theory in response claiming that withholding of removal only prevents someone being deported back to their home state. I mean you could technically that that is what the withholding is right like it's like he can't go back to El Salvador because he will be at risk in El Salvador. So they can deport him to a third state, but they deported him to El Salvador or

renditioned him to El Salvador, right? I want to read JD Vance's post here. I'm not going to read the whole thing, but I'll start with the second paragraph. In 2019, immigration judge, parentheses under the Biden administration. For those of you who are familiar with dates, it's 2019, it was under the first Trump administration. Yeah, that was the Trump administration. Okay, moving on. Determined that the deported man was in fact a member of the MS-13 gang. He also apparently had multiple traffic violations for which he failed to appear in court. A real winner. It is telling that the entire American media is going to run a propaganda operation today, making you think that an innocent quote father of three was apprehended by a Gulag. Father of three is in quotes here, by the way.

Yeah. Yeah. And Gulags generally not capable of doing the apprehensions themselves. If we think of a Gulag as a place, it's the police who apprehend the person, send them to the Gulag. Moving on. Here are the relevant facts. I'm still quoting. The man is an illegal immigrant with no right to be in our country. Obviously the judge determined that he was protected from removal. Quoting again, an immigration judge during the Biden admin determined he was a member of the MS-13 gang. Again, that's not the case. It's staggering the extent to which they can say a sentence where every single individual word is a lie.

Like, stunning. Yeah, yeah. The fact that so many members of the modern Republican party have, like, memory hold 2019 and 2020 as being under the Biden administration is just insane. Yeah, it's bizarre. I think what they're referring to is that the initial hearing, right, where he was denied bomb was in 2019, and then he filed his asylum claim and later was protected from removal.

But that's not what they're saying here. But like, even the way they talk about like the COVID response, the way they talk about 2020, they talk about it as if Joe Biden was the president. They're not going to lock us down again. But you locked us down. Yeah, who did that? And then the last one, and I think it's most revelatory, because he's not a

citizen, he does not get full jury trial by peers. In other words, whatever due process he was entitled to, he received. The immigration court doesn't generally present the opportunity for a jury trial. Right. Vance again holds a JD, he presumably knows this. What's more disturbing is the claim made by the United States government in its filing in this lawsuit that the Abrego Garcia family filed. Quote, because plaintiffs concede that Abrego Garcia is not in the United States custody,

this court cannot hear these claims. So they're claiming that no US court has jurisdiction over the question of these people who are in El Salvador because they're not in US custody, right? Which obviously if they stick the landing on this, it suggests that like it is a one-way ticket to the prison labor camp, right? That you cannot challenge that in US court. You ain't going to get very far in court in El Salvador, right? So what they're suggesting here is this is a forever detention, that there is no habeas,

right? That was what they were asking for, habeas corpus. Can you explain what habeas corpus actually is for the listeners? Yeah, it means bring me the body, right? In this case, it is. Yeah, you have to present evidence in order to charge, like, convict people of things. It's like the sine qua non of having a justice system, a criminal justice system, right?

You have to like show something. Yeah, you can't just be like bad man and then put the guy in jail. The most basic thing is that like, yeah, I mean, in literal terms, it means you have to like actually take somebody in front of a court in order to determine if they're like being detained for a reason, right?

Like a judge has to see them and say like, yes, this is not an unlawful imprisonment. There is a charge, there is some degree of evidence that somebody did something. Right, which they have not provided here, right? Not that like you can prove they did it, but like something was done and you are here for that for a reason.

Yeah. Yeah, so in this case, we don't have any of that. Mr. Abrigo Garcia is still, the way his family found out he was in Secod was that his wife identified him by scars on his head when they shaved it and a tattoo they saw. Jesus Christ. Yeah. They had no idea. It presumably doesn't come up on the ICE detainee locator, you know, that you're going to look

up your family members on. If your family members are detained by ICE, it doesn't have El Salvador as an option. So yeah, this is where we're at. This is a case I will be following, right, because I say it's pretty pivotal. If they can argue that the court doesn't have jurisdiction, obviously, I'm sure at that point that ruling will be challenged and it'll run up the courts. Currently, it seems like the only court they're going to listen to is the Supreme Court. But evidently, this is what they're going for. Like this is their argument here that once you're in El Salvador, you're out

of their hands and they can't do anything. So sorry, even though it was a mistake, you're stuck there forever, which is pretty disturbing. Yesterday, me and James did an episode on ICE's targeting of students, scholars, and professors that they believe are associated with pro-Palestine protests. So we did an update on that story that I did a piece on or a segment on last week on executive disorder. So for a follow up on that, you can look to yesterday's episode. But we are going to close with, I guess, kind of a feel-good story,

because it makes Elon Musk sad. He has had a bit of a rough week for Mr. Musk's businesses and his political projects, I guess. Elon Musk's efforts to buy the Wisconsin Supreme Court have failed as the Democratic-backed candidate swept the election, maintaining 4-3 liberal control of the Supreme Court of Wisconsin.

Yeah, I mean, the gist of it is, like three or four days ago, all of my friends who are Sconeys got furious because Elon Musk wore a cheesehead, you know, like the ones for the Packers that people from Wisconsin wear when they're at games, while he got up on stage and gave a million dollars, basically immediately before, like, about a little less than a week ago, a higher court ruled that it was not bribery for him to offer people a million dollars at random if they like voted or showed up at like, you know, different rallies and stuff, which is like what he's been doing, right? Is making these basically fake offers of a million dollars

because these two went to members of the local Republican Party. Like it was clearly set up. Yeah. The head of the College Republicans of Wisconsin must spend 25 million dollars on this race. He danced around on stage wearing a cheese head, and he gave out million dollar novelty checks to quote unquote voters who won a contest by signing his petition against activist judges, which has been the new rallying cry on the right. Is that everything that's going wrong, everything that's stopping Trump is from these activist judges that we have to unseat.

He also gave $100 each to every person who signed that petition. And on election day, Musk offered voters $50 if they posted a picture of a Wisconsin resident outside of a polling place. How is that allowed? These are the same people who scream about like election interference, rigging elections, buying elections, stealing elections. It might not be. Like, this is insane stuff. You can go to jail for giving people a water bottle in line at polling places in multiple states. And Musk is allowed to give people $50 for pictures posted outside of polling places. What the fuck is happening?

But luckily, the negative polarization against Musk and Tesla that's been increasing the past few months has resulted in Judge Suvin Crawford beating the mega-ap Republican judge who last year went as Donald Trump for Halloween, beating this guy by 10%. This was a massive, massive reversal of the 2024 presidential election results in Wisconsin. There was a record high turnout for this spring election, 40% higher than the last Wisconsin Supreme Court election, which was in 2023.

Which, by the way, that was also a high-turner election, too. Yeah, yeah. Like that previous one. Then this one just fucking obliterated it. Like this was just under the results of what you would expect out of a midterm election. Yeah, yeah. They shifted every single county in the state blue compared to the 2024 presidential election

and on average by about 10 to 12 points. Massive, massive shifts. And this was before the tariffs, by the way. This was before the tariffs were announced. No, this was pure personal dislike of Elon Musk meddling in Wisconsin politics. Well, like everything else has happened since January. But like it does seem like Elon Musk's personal presence was a net negative and all the money he spent. Luckily, the next day there was a Tesla sales report,

which was one of the worst in the history of their company. 50 percent fewer vehicles being delivered in the first three months compared to last year with Tesla stock continuing to plunge the past week, although with reports that Musk might exit the inner circle of the Trump administration, those stocks are kind of flipping back and forth as he's expected to return to his companies. Yeah, yeah. And who knows?

Like a lot of that's clearly the tariffs. Well, yes. And then with the tariffs, this is a whole other issue. Real double whammy for Tesla. The reporting is that people around Trump have largely soured on Musk. Who knows how true that is? There's always a lot of like reports from the Trump inner circle that are like, I don't know. Yeah, he's always had a very leaky... Yeah, but, and I can see it being multi-causal causal like Musk has failed badly in Wisconsin the the kind of suspicion right now

Is that shibble or whatever's name is? Was down by about five points relative to other manga candidates in the same election Which people are attributing largely to Musk's intervention? Well, and like they were testing out if he was like a stable Well, and like they were testing out if he was like a stable, consistent, reliable political operator, or if what he did in 2024 was kind of like a one-off event, if he's like a one-trick pony there. And this complete, like devastating loss demonstrated that maybe this unstable drug addict, no offense to drug addicts, but specifically for Elon Musk, who's railing ketamine all the time and trying to run the entire world Luckily luckily my friends who who might indulge in ketamine don't try to run the entire world you say that now

But you'll get older at some point They'll have midlife crises too But he was shown in like a very public way to be to be like an unstable Political force and and yeah, that's gonna turn some turn some of the people in the Trump admin against him. Yep. Anyway, I think that's all I have to say about this Wisconsin race. Wisconsin race, sorry. Alright, well I think that's probably an episode.

Wait shit, hold on. I just found the funniest fucking thing about this tariff that I think I've seen yet from fucking VFX. Oh wait wait wait, one sec, one sec. Tariff don't like it Rockin' Casper, rockin' Casper Tariff don't like it Rockin' Casper, rockin' Casper Okay, we're back.

Apparently, the tariffs are not broken down by country. This is his quote from this guy VFX on Twitter They're not broken down by country. They're broken down by top-level internet domain It's why the islands populated entirely by penguins the dot-hm domain and why the Diego Garcia military base Yeah, yeah, yeah like fucking McDonald's Island. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, and why why reunion Gibraltar elicits? I wanted to have a real tomato on that. Yeah, like you know what love reunion is part of France. Why are we hitting these guys? Okay, that makes sense that that that is that that is what a 19 year old who never went to college my god But thinks he's he understands all of reality would do okay great dictatorship of Chad GPT fucking a phenomenal my fucking god

Unbelievable look look okay the note I want to close on is that so pod podcaster Mike Duncan the creator of the revolutions podcast a man who has spent literally tens of thousands of hours writing about the revolutions podcast a man who has spent literally tens of thousands of hours writing about like every revolution That's ever happened at the end of the original run of the series revolutions He makes this point which is that all revolutions work because they encounter you encounter one of the great idiots of history a man who is blessed with with the in in the Inalienable ability to make the wrong decision at every single time and my god If we can't beat these motherfuckers like if that shits entirely on us because we have been handed one of the greatest idiots of history

that has ever existed in the history of humanity and Our fucking job now is to turn that into fucking a better world do something Yeah, we'll see. The problem is that there's a lot of greater idiots out there and they all do still have guns. And money. One of the great tragedies of the world is that very, very stupid people can still fire guns.

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