It Could Happen Here - Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #15

Episode Date: May 9, 2025

The gang get together to discuss India Pakistan conflict, Israel’s genocidal plan to occupy the Gaza Strip, raids in Los Angeles, the U.S. government sending migrants to Libya, and a tariff update. Sources: https://www.reuters.com/world/india/one-killed-seven-injured-militant-attack-indias-kashmir-india-today-tv-says-2025-04-22/ https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/05/05/trump-defends-toy-tariffs/83455040007/ https://www.tokyoweekender.com/japan-life/news-and-opinion/us-visa-applications-from-japan-require-disclosing-social-media-history/ https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/06/us/politics/trump-libya-migrants.html https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/press-release/2021/07/libya-horrific-violations-in-detention-highlight-europes-shameful-role-in-forced-returns/ https://www.infomigrants.net/en/post/63406/sudanese-war-refugees-recount-libya-horrors https://www.infomigrants.net/en/post/62731/scores-of-bodies-uncovered-in-libyan-mass-graves-linked-to-human-trafficking https://www.context.news/money-power-people/sudans-refugees-face-deadly-game-of-snakes-and-ladders-in-libya https://www.infomigrants.net/en/post/61979/david-yambio-life-in-libya--living-a-nightmare-part-2 https://www.aclum.org/sites/default/files/field_documents/2025-05-07-105954.pdf https://cnnespanol.cnn.com/2025/05/06/eeuu/inteligencia-ee-uu-venezuela-tren-de-aragua-ley-trump-traxhttps://abcnews.go.com/Politics/judge-blocks-trump-administration-requiring-proof-citizenship-register/story?id=121134512  https://www.foxnews.com/us/california-home-suspect-accused-doxing-ice-agents-raided-searched https://www.axios.com/2025/05/05/israel-gaza-destroy-trump-deal  https://www.wsj.com/world/middle-east/israel-is-heading-for-a-full-occupation-of-gazaand-all-the-risks-it-entails-58516d60  https://www.axios.com/2025/05/04/un-rejects-israel-gaza-aid-planSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Today I'm joined by Mia Wong, James Stout, and Robert Evans. That's right. This episode, we're covering the week of April 30th to May 7th. Yes, when you think of ED you think about rigid cylindrical things. No. Flying at high speed towards... Missiles. Sorry, that's a bad way to introduce the fact that there's now a war going on between India and Pakistan. Jesus fucking Christ.

I don't know, what else are we supposed to do? How are we supposed to go into this? Pakistan and India are shooting. Okay, okay. I'm going to attempt to do a very, very, very, very brief. Please, God, do not let this be the extent of your knowledge about this conflict. But, okay, here is one paragraph about this. So when India gained and Pakistan eventually gained independence from the UK and the British Empire, there was the partition. This is a process in which millions died and India and Pakistan were split into two states. Millions die as a result of the disruption to infrastructure and as a result of mass

killings. Yeah. And like, again, people fleeing like back and forth between the two places. There's been dissidia territory for fucking ever. One of the most contentious parts of this has always been Kashmir. There's a whole complicated thing here, but so Kashmir was sort of split in two. There's an almost entirely Muslim territory that ends up under the control of India, and India has waged a brutal military occupation of Kashmir since they got it, basically.

It ramps up and down in terms of how bad it is, but it's never good. Yeah. And this has been a constant source of tension between India and Pakistan Where you know Pakistan has played its card of like we are like the defenders of Muslims in in India And there's been a series of wars also but this this is one of the few times you can say there are genocides on both sides and it's true because like one of the wars that they fought was because of the the genocide that Pakistan did in what became Bangladesh. So like, there are no heroes in this story. There is only, I mean, I guess, like, you know, there are people resisting repression from both states.

There are good people, but neither of the states have clean hands. Yeah, but the states suck shit, right? Like, you know, let's be clear about that. Kashmir is one of the most militarized places in the world. It got much, much worse after 2019 when India withdrew the autonomous status that Kashmir is one of the most militarized places in the world. It got much, much worse after 2019 when India withdrew the autonomous status that Kashmir had had. This sparked a bunch of protests. They were horribly repressed. There's been like staggering numbers of people have died over the past like 30 years there. Like a lot of like Kashmir's access to the outside world has been cut off.

It's difficult to get people like in to it. And obviously, you know, the thing about occupations is that there's been cut off, it's difficult to get people like in to it. And obviously, you know, the thing about occupations is that there's been a very, very long running series of sort of insurgencies and militant groups in Kashmir of various kinds. Pakistan has funded some of these groups as a way to sort of like poke a stick at India. And in late April, a group killed 20 odd. 26, I think.

Yeah, 26. 26, I don't, 26. Yeah, I think that's the final number, like Hindu tourists in Kashmir. It's worth noting that there's no actual evidence that Pakistan is behind this, but no. But that's India's claim. Yeah, that's India's claim. And this is causing things to get really, really bad in Kashmir itself, which is the part of this, I think, has gotten lost in a lot of the discussion here, which is like, like, if you if you read statements from from like, I mean, like, a there, quote, like, Indian style final solutions for Kashmir. It's completely unhinged. The Indian

state has gone into this, I mean, like, you know, it's Modi, right? Modi is running probably the world's most effective fascist government, and his thing is always, like, a huge part of it has always been specifically about, like, wanting to repress Muslims, and this, you know, has kicked Islamophobia into an absolute fever pitch and The product of this is that they have started doing strikes inside of Pakistan I'm gonna pass it over to Robert to talk about like what those have looked like and what this conflict has been Yeah

So and it's important you know that during this terrorist attack one of the big things that is alleged is that Husbands were executed in front of their wives Yeah things that is alleged is that husbands were executed in front of their wives. Yeah. That is, that is going to be relevant for the name of the operation that India is in the process of carrying out right now. Prior to, in the immediate wake of that attack, everyone knew some shit was going to go down on the border. India was going to do something in part because India said they were going to do something, right? JD.D. Vance, the peacemaker, as we call him, I don't believe anyone else has ever been called that in the history of government or popular media, so yeah, that seems like a good nickname for him, went to India like a day or two before this all happened to calm

things down. This is after making a visit to the Pope. Or to tell Modi do whatever. Like, we don't know actually what he said some people are like Vance must have given them the go-ahead and it's just as likely Vance was like hey We don't really want a war right now Can you calm shit down and Modi didn't listen or that Vance just didn't even have anything meaningful to say we actually don't know Yeah at the moment, but last night India started carrying out what they are calling Operation Sindur is how it is generally anglicized.

The name of the operation comes from again, I mentioned a little earlier that during that terrorist attack in Kashmir, Hindu men were killed in front of their wives. Sindur is a word that refers to this kind of colored dye that I believe it's like a bridal thing that like women put in, I think it's in their hair, but it's a reference to something that is part of like a traditional Hindu wedding and something that the bride does. And so it was specifically named this in order to make it very clear. This is vengeance for that attack, right? Like that's why it was named what it was. Okay. Does that all make sense? Yeah. Uh, sorry. I've got to hear. So send or is the Hindi word for Vermillion, which is the red pigment Hindu women apply to their forehead.

Right. So like that. And so it's, it's a reference also to the fact that these terrorists are said to have like shot their victims in the forehead. Right. So there's, there's a lot going on there basically. Yeah. But that's what's relevant. So when it comes to this, what's happening, first off, perfectly reasonable to call what's happening war. India has launched cross border strikes. They appear to have launched both cruise missiles and air strikes using modern jets, right? Pakistan has responded with modern military air defenses. What we can safely say right now is that this is the first full 21st century here on peer military action.

And I know as came up in the meeting, people are going to say, well, Ukraine, not entirely Ukraine and Russia. There is a degree to which that is true because Ukraine is armed by states that are peer or more than peer to Russia in terms of military technology. But Ukraine does not have an industrial base that is in any way comparable to Russia's. They're not capable of manufacturing the weaponry that they need to compete with Russia on the battlefield on their own. That's why international aid has been so critical.

Pakistan and India are both effectively peers in that they both do purchase weaponry a lot from other countries, but they also have domestic arms industries and they have potent domestic militaries that are armed to a comparable standard. And so there's a few things happening here. I do not want to lose count of the fact that people are dying. Obviously civilians died in that attack in Kashmir. At the moment it looks like the death toll from the initial Indian strikes is somewhere around 40. Pakistan is claiming the vast majority of those are civilians. At the moment, it looks like the death toll from the initial Indian strikes is somewhere around 40.

Pakistan is claiming the vast majority of those are civilians. India is claiming that they only hit infrastructure associated with the terrorist group that they believe carried out the attacks in Kashmir that they claim is being supported by Pakistan. There is substantial evidence that the majority of the dead are civilians. People have claimed that large chunks of their families were wiped out in these strikes. I don't see any reason to doubt that knowing how airstrikes work. A good number of the dead though have also occurred as a result of cross border artillery

fire. And it's unclear to me if India and Pakistan have had a full on artillery duel across the border or if this is Pakistan's artillery firing back in response to the airstrikes. That part is unclear. There are also videos where you can hear small arms fire, so machine guns and the like, and reports that that is coming from Pakistan side too. It's possible there is a cross border direct arm engagement. It's possible no one died as a result of the small arms fire, given the distances that this is occurring at, right? That the only deaths have been due to field artillery and due to missile strikes.

That seems likely at this point. It's possible the death toll is much higher than 40, but that's somewhere around there is what's been confirmed right now. Now we have talked about the deaths. Obviously the biggest concern is the loss in human life here. I am going to talk about what this means on a military level because that is relevant both how this conflict is going to proceed and how future conflicts are going to proceed because we have not seen a peer on peer fight like this before in this

century. One of the more important things as to how this is proceeded is that a number of the jets that India launched across the border are what are called Rafals. RAFLE, this is a French fighter jet. It is broadly considered to be equivalent to an F-18 Super Hornet. Now, I say that if you go online and you listen to people who are nerds about fighter jets, they will pull a knife on you for claiming that, right? There are major differences between the two airframes

One of them is that the Rafale is a larger plane, which means it's theoretically capable got theoretically It is capable of a significantly higher payload However, there's a couple of problems that come with that one is that the Super Hornet? Not only is it a smaller craft, but it is built for carrier duty, which means it's wings fold Yeah, you can fit more of them on a carrier They take off and land more easily from a carrier, or a fall can take off and land from a carrier, but it has to have a different loadout, right? The other issue, a Super Hornet can stay supersonic with its full payload for longer periods of

time. That means that it can be breaking the sound barrier consistently, not just using its afterburner for like a quick burst of speed. That matters because the faster you're going, the harder you are to shoot down. The primary air to ground package is what's called a HAMMER. That's an acronym. H-A-M-M-E-R. I don't know what it stands for off the top of my head, but they are between 250 and 1000 pounds each. These are their air to ground munitions. That they are equipped with standard, it's possible India has a separate loadout for them, I don't actually know. This is their standard armament. Now, they can only have their full complement if they're not going supersonic. So they cannot go supersonic for

a comparable period of time to a super hornet if they have a full complement. From a military technology standpoint, the biggest news from the initial stage of the strike is that at least one of these falls has been destroyed. There's decent evidence that potentially another two, if India lost three of these jets, they have 36. That is a meaningful degradation of their entire air force capability to strike, right? Losing these jets and they cannot be replaced on any kind of, of timeframe that is comparable to how quickly they're being shot down. Pakistan is claiming significantly more that they Pakistan's claim is that they've downed three Rafals, one MIG 29, one SU 30

MKI, and at least one Israeli made Heron drone. People generally say Pakistan is probably exaggerating. However, French authorities have confirmed at least one Rafale and there's two more that possibilities that are being looked into. It's possible three planes were downed but only one was a Rafale. We don't really know yet, right? But even one is a meaningful loss. And the fact that it was downed says a couple of things. One thing is that there's a decent chance what I suspect we might hear, especially if

three of these went down, is that India sent these things off with a full strike package. So they were not able to go as fast as they normally can and thus were not able to evade Pakistan's anti-air defenses. That may be what happened. The other thing that we're seeing here is that Pakistan is equipped, they buy the best part and Pakistan has a lot of S-300s and S- and s 400s I believe which are like what we've seen in Ukraine Those have had a very mixed operational history in terms of their capability to take out modern aircraft Pakistan also has a lot of pl 15 radar guided anti-air missiles. These are chinese anti-aircraft missiles

They have never been used in combat before if you're a nerd for like modern military technology one of the things people have been talking about in that field for a long time is how are these going to function? We just know that they've been used because wreckage from them has been found and photographed and people who are experts in these missiles online have confirmed this is from this weapons package. It is very likely that the Rafale that was down was downed by this missile. And if more than one was downed, they were all downed by these missiles. So that tells us a lot about the comparable capabilities of both this modern Western fighter that the French are selling and of this Chinese anti-aircraft missile.

And so that's really relevant if we're looking at both how this conflict is going to proceed, because I don't want to be coming at from this bloodless like, oh, I'm just interested in the military strategy part. This is relevant because if India has lost three of these advanced fighters, that they cannot replace on any kind of comparable timeframe in the first few hours of strikes, that suggests one of two potential future outcomes. Number one, the tempo of use of advanced aircraft

in this war is going to change considerably as it drags into the next stages, right? Because they simply can't maintain that tempo. They can't continue to take those sort of risks. And that either means moving on to a lot more ground engagements between infantry, between tanks, between artillery, like direct face-to-face shit, or a potential for escalating things to the next level. And the only next level higher than where we're at is nuclear, right?

I don't think that is the likeliest outcome. I do not think a nuclear exchange between Pakistan and India is the likeliest thing at this point. However, the rate at which India is attriting air assets means that they're going to have to make a choice in the not too distant future, right? Although it's also worth noting, we don't know entirely the degree to which Pakistan's anti-air defenses have been attrited by this, right? There's a lot of open, there's a lot of unknown, unknowns and known unknowns here, right? As our good friend Rumsfeld would say.

I will say the other issue here, if there is a nuclear exchange, it's going to be the greatest humanitarian catastrophe of the century. That doesn't mean it's going to be a nuclear exchange, it's going to be the greatest humanitarian catastrophe of the century. That doesn't mean it's going to be a nuclear war across the entire world. And that shouldn't be your first concern. Your first concern should be that that would still mean millions of deaths in India and Pakistan potentially, at least hundreds of thousands, right? The concern is not they start so everyone else does, it's they start and thus the worst humanitarian disaster since World War II occurs.

Yeah. does it's they start and thus the worst humanitarian disaster since World War II occurs. Yeah, I mean some of the most densely populated cities on earth are in this region like a strike in any major city that would be devastating. Yeah, a strike in Islamabad would be the worst thing that's happened possibly since the Holocaust in terms of like human death toll due to human actions. Yeah, it's pretty bad. I know India claimed that they were launching a quote, non-escalatory strike in so much as that means shit. Yes.

They also claimed that the PL-15 didn't have its interceptor head, which I guess the French intelligence refuted. Yeah, and this is all, there's a lot that's unknown about kind of how these weapons have performed still, but these are from a, in terms of both how this conflict is going to proceed and how future conflicts will proceed, these are things you should be looking at. Because these weapons platforms, this is important in terms of what war is going to continue to look like. I think it's also worth noting a couple of things.

One is that this is by far the largest, like, clash that these countries have had in a long time. But also, like, there have been, like, periodic, like, cross-border skirmishes around Kashmir for a long time, but also like there have been like periodic like cross-border skirmishes around cash for a while now, right? Like there was a pretty big flare up in 2020 that kind of lasted in 2021 and so there is a chance that this doesn't turn into a full-scale war and that you get something more like what happened sort of recently with Israel and Iran where they like bomb each other a few times and then everyone sort of packs up their bags and goes home and continues to like poke each other with militant groups instead of it being like tanks. And I think that is like orders

of magnitude more likely than like nukes flying. Yeah, just to sort of like, yeah, like the chance at which these people start shooting nukes at each other is not very high. Like, yes. Just like in the history of nuclear weapons, too, you have to understand that like, like some of the most unhinged people who have ever lived, like Curtis LeMay, like the US and the Soviets never did it, like Mao, Mao and the Soviets never did it. Like, apartheid South Africa had nuclear weapons and never used them. Some of the worst people who have ever lived have had access to nukes and never fired them. The odds that you're gonna die in nuclear fire are very, very, very, very, very low.

It's not good. Everything that's happening here is very bad, but like, you do not need to be like, living in existential terror of like, fire raining from the sky. That's not like a reasonable reaction to this, And I've been seeing a lot of that. So. No, it's, it's, it's far from the likeliest outcome. And your primary concern should be to people who are living there right now. Yeah. Yeah.

Right. You know, it's worth noting that the, the 1999, the cargo war, that was not an insignificant death toll, right? Like you're, you're talking probably, like certainly more than a thousand, I think, a thousand to a couple of thousand people. So that would not be, that's not certainly not out of the question

without it escalating in that way. I think the primary concern that you always have and why I bring up weapons systems is that countries think in terms of stuff like this a lot. This is a big part of why we get world war one, right? You have these nations that are arming and they're always concerned with how do my weapons compare to my neighbors? Yeah.

If we go to war now, I feel pretty good about where I'm at. And if I wait another two years, maybe they'll be in a better position. And thinking like that is part of the planning that's going on in these states and the planning about when do we escalate and how do we escalate, right? Do we, do we move to a point where we've got masses of infantry shooting at each other? Well, maybe if we can't risk the continued attrition of our advanced air assets, we do that, or maybe we make another decision. That's why it's relevant to know about this stuff, not because you want to nerd out over

who's got the coolest missile and who's got the coolest planes, but because that is very much how states think, right? Anyway, before we go to ads to tie this back to the executive dysfunction, because that is what this is about. Not Yeah, not the current wars podcast. In the immediate wake of all of this, President Trump was asked about, hey, how about these two nuclear armed states going to war? What do you think about that?

And he gave a, you know, just a traditionally eloquent, you know, Donald Trump response. It's a shame. We just heard about it. I guess people knew something was going to happen based on a little bit of the past. They've been fighting for a long time. I just hope it ends quickly. Oh.

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I'm going to talk now about some other horrifying geopolitical news. Last week, a humanitarian aid ship carrying Greta Thunberg was hit by an Israeli drone strike off the coast of Italy. Now, this is related to the humanitarian aid situation in Gaza right now. The past two months, Israel has forcibly cut off all food, water, machines, supplies, and other humanitarian aid to Gaza. Starving the Palestinian people as Netanyahu continues to reject ceasefire deals. Reports from the UN say that Gaza will run out of food in days.

Yep. I mean, it looks like a starvation genocide. I don't know how else to phrase this. There's really nothing else. This isn't the time to mince words. Every piece of evidence suggests this is a starvation genocide being carried out. That they're trying to starve this population to death or until they all leave, which is the same.

Genocide does not necessarily mean you kill everyone. It is the forced killing and or displacement of a population. Yeah. Israel says that the Palestinians still have food for a few months, but the UN and other aid organizations say that is not true. Now last Sunday night, Israel's security cabinet approved a plan to re-occupy and hold the Gaza Strip if a new ceasefire deal isn't reached by May 15th, while Netanyahu and Israeli officials continue to undermine negotiations for a permanent ceasefire.

This plan is called Gideon's Chariots. Jesus fucking Christ. The plan is for the IDF to invade with four to five armored infantry divisions, mobilizing uproots of 70,000 reservists, which would gradually occupy and secure basically the entire Gaza Strip. According to Israel's finance minister, this IDF occupation would be permanent, not even pulling back with the release of any remaining hostages. Though other Israeli officials disagree on this and say this would be a temporary occupation. Pretty hard to take their word on that. All remaining buildings

would be destroyed, flattening the entirety of the Strip, just like Rafa and the northern side. Amir Avivi, the founder of the Israel Defense and Security Forum think tank and a former deputy commander of the Israeli forces, say, quote, This is the only way to eradicate Hamas, militarily and governmentally, is to take over Gaza and to conquer the area and destroy them." There's some added complications with legally occupying Gaza. Under the Geneva Convention, a formal occupation would require Israel to have the capacity to operate as an official government authority in this region.

Now, there's no indication that Israel will follow the Geneva Convention as they haven't. Yeah, it's Israel. They never have given a shit. Yeah, I don't see why we'd expect that. But if they do occupy, they would be more liable for the well-being of the Palestinians that would be inside the territory. And the IDF doesn't have a plan for this. They are planning to forcibly relocate

around two million Palestinians to a single quote unquote humanitarian area, which is positioned in the rubble of Rafa where secure quote unquote compounds are being constructed to distribute food and supplies to Palestinians who are screened and approved as not being members of Hamas.

This area will be managed by private US companies and a quote-unquote new international foundation which works with Israel and the United States. Established aid organizations in the UN announced that they would not be participating in running these quote-unquote compounds, calling this a tactic to give the Israeli military even more power over how aid is distributed, saying in a statement, quote, It contravenes fundamental humanitarian principles and appears designed to reinforce control over life-sustaining items as a pressure tactic, as part of a military strategy. It is dangerous, driving civilians into militarized zones to collect

rations, threatening lives, including those of humanitarian workers, while further entrenching forced displacement." An Israeli official said the only alternative to being moved to this humanitarian area would be to leave Gaza voluntarily to other countries, citing Trump's plan to resettle displaced Palestinians. Robert, James, Mia, do you want to comment on this? It's not much to say, it's like, it's, they're just saying the thing that they've been going for, for a while now, which is the removal of all Palestinian people from the Gaza Strip, either in body bags or to live somewhere else, I guess. It's just straight up a genocide. Like, they're describing a genocide. Palestinian people from the Gathas trip either in body bags or to live somewhere else, I guess.

It's just straight up a genocide. Like they're describing a genocide. Yeah. There's no doubting it. Like, I don't even know. Like, what is it? What is there to say? Right?

Like at this point, I almost think other than obviously documenting what's happening is important. The only important thing to try to talk about is like, how can this be stopped? And or how can a degree of like, how can this be stopped and or how can a degree of like, what is justice look like at some point down the line? What should be done? You know, like these are questions to ask, but like, to just like, I don't know what to keep saying other than like, yep, they're trying to wipe out Gaza.

Like, and specifically the use of these like, quote unquote, compounds, they're trying to wipe out Gaza. Like... Well, and specifically the use of these like, quote-unquote, compounds, you're like rounding up and keeping people inside one secure area. Concentrating them in camps. Like come on, guys. They're just setting up camps for Palestinians on the south side of the Strip. And like that's all that this is, as they reoccupy and hold the entirety to, quote-unquote, eliminate Hamas.

So this Monday, Trump's going to start a three day visit to Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and the United Arab Emirates. This is while the US government has taken a back foot on Gaza negotiations, while still backing up Netanyahu and any actions taken by the Israeli military. Yeah. So we will know more about what Israel is actually going to do immediately in the region in like a week's time. It looks like they are going to be going forward with this May 15th reoccupation plan. Cool. Well, yeah, so more good news from me. Immigration update.

The New York Times today on the, this is Wednesday the 7th, is reporting that the Trump administration is as soon as today, I checked this before recording, the plane hasn't taken off, planning to ship people to, migrants to Libya. The nationalities of people being renditioned there are not clear, but my guess would be that these are third party nationals that the US can't deport to their home countries. They previously deported these people to Panama and to El Salvador. If you're not familiar with migrant detention in Libya, conditions are horrific. Among the worst things that can happen to people. The situation in Libya is currently the country is divided between the Tripoli government, which is recognized by the UN and which the US has formal government-to-government relationships

with and Haftar's government based in Benghazi, which the Trump regime has associated with before. We have covered conditions in Libyan migrant detention camps before, which I'll chuck in the show notes, and we also talked about the dangers faced by people leaving Libya towards the EU in a different episode, which I'll also list. To recap, reports document starvation, rape, murder, slavery, and organ harvesting occurring in Libya. Mass graves, including one last year that was found with 65 bodies in it are not uncommon. To quote from David Yambio, David Yambio is someone who was, he was sold and then forced to fight in a militia in Libya. And I think, I believe he escaped and he is now in, I think he's in Italy, but

he's relatively outspoken on this stuff. The slave trade is alive and thriving in Libya. It thrives in the silence of nations, in the shadows of complicit systems, and in the unchecked racism that dehumanizes black lives. In other immigration news, the government's attempt to delay Rumaissa Ozturk's return to Vermont was rejected by the Second Circuit. So that means that she will have to be returned to... She was arrested in Massachusetts, if you remember, for writing an op-ed.

Tufts University, yeah. Yeah, moved across state borders to Vermont and from there sent to Louisiana. So the habeas case was transferred to Vermont and the Second Circuit has a rule that the government cannot delay bringing her back there anymore. Another flight containing 81 migrants left Panama yesterday at the United States' expense. This is a continuation of a plan that the Biden administration installed in summer last year, and the Trump administration has continued whereby the US funds deportations from Panama. Meanwhile, Tokyo Weekender in Japan is reporting that the United States is asking people to

show five years of social media history in order to obtain a student visa. Just to put that in perspective for people, so you have to, even if those accounts are deleted or no longer used, you have to declare them all on your form. If you're applying for a student visa and you're at the younger end of a traditional aged undergraduate, you could have to list every social media account you've had since you were 12 on this form. And the US has required disclosure for a while, but like it hasn't been a practical thing. I haven't really ever heard from anyone of anybody's visa being denied or asylum being

denied based on social media posting. But this is now something that they are asking people to disclose. Well, and requiring, not like... Requiring, yeah. Not asking. It is gonna be like an enforced requirement in a way that before it really hasn't been. It's the term that the law firm used in this piece is like,

in the past, this has been mostly quote unquote negligible. Yeah. And now this is something that the, the department of state is really being adamant about. Yeah. Which will massively delay the time to process these replications on top of everything else. People in Japan have compared this to, to policy similar to that of China's

cultural revolution. Yeah. I mean, I've been to other countries, to be clear, where they open up your social media and look at it when you're entering, but this is not a thing that anyone has ever associated with the United States. Finally, I guess, the Freedom of the Press Foundation got some documents released under the Federal Freedom of Information Act that outlined that the intelligence community did not believe that the Maduro regime was

controlling Ctendea-Aragua, which was one of the claims that Trump administration has made in its invocation of the Alien Enemies Act. I think most people who pay any attention to the situation weren't really buying that, but it's showing that this was documented by the US intelligence community as well. So yeah, anything to add? The Libya stuff is bleak. It hasn't got much coverage in the US. We have covered it before, but the European Union is already complicit in the terrible

treatment of migrants in Libya. Oh yeah. And for ages. It has happened for ages. The so-called Libyan Coast Guard are bringing people back to Libya and are literally sending them from shelters to human traffickers. I mean, we've more or less kind of lined up behind some of the worst places on earth, in terms of migrant detention, right, with Secot and this.

Yeah. More and more families are figuring out that their family family members have been sent to SACOT. Like people who have not been named in official documentation, they've been able to like search through these propaganda videos and like identify more people. So they're launching court cases to have them returned. People who very clearly have had no gang affiliation. Not that that should even matter when you're sending people to the forever prison. Not that that should even matter when you're sending people to the forever prison. Yeah, I saw one guy who had a Donald Duck tattoo and that was, I guess, a decisive claim there. There's a form that ICE agents fill out and there's a number of points they have to amass. I believe it's three points.

And one of the things that can allow you to amass three points is like, I think two points come from a tattoo, which they decide to be gang affiliated. And again, they seem to just be saying tattoos, period. Right? Like, anything is Trinidad, right? Yeah. Right. People who have soccer tattoos, people who have I love my mom and dad tattoos, it doesn't matter. There's an autism awareness tattoo. Yeah, some guy had an autism awareness.

Yeah. Yeah, some guy had an autism awareness. Yeah, that one like haunts me because I have met young neurodivergent people and their families who are bringing them to the US to get better, what they thought was a better standard of care, right? To allow their children to progress and have a beautiful life. Yeah, man, that one like, like I honestly really struggled with that. I spent lots and lots and lots of time with Venezuelan migrants. And like I, they're my friends and that particular one, like people whose children have any need for medical care, right, are overrepresented in

migrant population because they just can't access it there. And so they, they upend their whole lives and carry their children across the continent to give them a chance at a better life. And that one is particularly hard for me to witness. I did just want to mention on the topic of asylum, I've heard from so many migrants stuck in Mexico who are having a god-awful time to include robbery, kidnapping, sexual violence, all of the things that we know can happen to migrants along the migrant trail because they have no pathway to get to the US, they're now just stuck there.

Mexico continues to take migrants and move them back south if it catches them near the United States border, even if some of them move up as far as Mexico City, right, because they have access to services there. And then again, sent back south to places where migrants have routinely been murdered. So I know we're focusing a lot on migrants being kicked out of the US, deported, renditioned. Conditions for migrants who aspired to come to the United States, who took great risks to be Americans and are stuck in Mexico are also dire. All right, let's go and break and then come back for a few more updates before we close

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This week on Dear Chelsea with me, Chelsea Handler, Connie Britton is here. I think you should encourage your friend to go ahead and not be holding out for any man to have her babies. If she is passionate about becoming a mother and she has her eggs frozen and she has her life together, go for it. She could be waiting another 10 years

before she finds the right guy. Connie didn't meet her right guy until you were what, 50 Connie? How long have you guys been together? Yeah, no, 52. 52. I adopted my son as a single mom because I kept thinking, oh, I'm going to meet the guy, I'm going to meet the guy, I'm going to meet the guy.

I finally was like, what am I waiting for? And I did it. And I'm just so glad that I did. I want to change the narrative about single parents and also help to create a community for single parents so that they can not feel alone in it. One of the big things is it's so hard, especially for women, to ask for help. Listen to Dear Chelsea on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your

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Khloe Kardashian, everybody. Khloe Kardashian. No one understands how it's... I'm not just a TV show. There would be times that I was like, I don't even want to go out to the grocery store because I feel like I know what they're thinking about me. And that was scary to me

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Well, John, luckily it's mother may have a DNA test week on the OK Storytime podcast, so we'll find out soon. And this wife writes, my husband received a Facebook message from a woman saying that he is the father of a five-year-old. Whoa! At first he didn't remember her, but then he realized they had a one night stand

right before we started dating. Wait, but do we have proof he's a dad? Well, the author says there's no confirmation the kid is even his son, but the woman from Facebook has a meeting with her lawyer soon. I think she's going after our money. If the kid is actually my husband's,

she would be entitled to it too. So what's the husband gotta say about this? This could be his kid. Well, apparently he broke down in the middle of the living room apologizing, but this is what scared me. His first instinct, if the kid is his son, is to pay the child support, but not be an active father in the kid's life because he only wants a family with me, his wife.

Oh, this is a mess. To hear the explosive finale, follow OK Storytime on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. We're back in. Wait a second. Is that is that the tariff song? All right, guys, I actually don't like it, rockin' Casper, rockin' Casper. All right, guys, I actually don't know. Do we have anything to say about tariffs this week?

Yeah, we actually do have some tariffs. So on Friday- Okay, okay, all right, good. We gotta get all of our use out of that song, because again- We really do. We really had to suspend the whole team's healthcare to pay for it. It was monstrously expensive. The full cut of that song is 17 and a half

hours. We actually brought in the remaining members of Fleetwood Mac as well as several Rolling Stones. It was just disastrous. So far attempts to resurrect Joe Strummer have failed, but we have spent millions of dollars. We only use the clip with our friend the narcissist cookbook, but yeah, there is a 26 minute drum solo with the guy from Rush. Getty Lee? He's still alive, right? Was it Getty Lee? Yeah. Yeah He's still alive. The joke works. The joke works. Not cheap. Not cheap Yeah, yeah, it's much like the dire wolf thing. We've put Joe's drummer's DNA into another coffee man

We've released him into the wild and we're gonna see how he develops so far He just has a lot of blood clots, but we have Nathan Fielder on the case though. He's training them up Well, we'll get him. We'll get him on here. All right Good bad. What do you think? Okay, so all right, let's Let's actually do this shit So what is it? One of the things that we've been talking about a lot on this show is the de minimis

exemption, which was this exemption that formally allowed you, was particularly used in trade with China, where you could, like, if you were sending a package that was under like $700, you didn't have to, like, it didn't have to go through customs in the way that you would normally would have to do it. That shit's gone. That ended on Friday of last week. This has already skyrocketed the cost of doing imports of shit from China because huge amounts of stuff being shipped from China was You know like reliant on shipping it in packages that were exactly six hundred and ninety nine dollars Uh-huh, and you know this has like like Temu's entire business model has changed basically every night

We're like they're no longer shipping stuff in from China they're only selling stuff from like American distributors. This is going to have catastrophic effects on so many supply chains you've never even thought of in the weeks to come because again there are so many different like tiny screws and shit like just like really really small items that you used to be able to get from China for like fucking $5 for like a hundred of them that now have like unbelievable tariff rates on them and have to go through a really, really convoluted customs process. There have already been sort of massive supply chain disruptions in a large number of industries. It's going to continue to get worse. Sophie was talking about metal imports hitting the construction industry because there's,

you know, there's tariffs on a bunch of different kinds of metal, as we've covered on the show. Aluminum, God knows what's gonna happen to Diet Coke. We'll put it in lead, like God intended. Maybe that'll finally change Trump's outlook, is when his Diet Coke stops. Yes, I hope so. Yeah, Trump and Musk both become inoperable.

You know, Garrison, we will know when that's hit when the missiles are in the air Like oh shit. He ran out by federal occupation of the Coca-Cola headquarters in Atlanta, Georgia. Yeah So, you know, and this is also like this is this is going to have a profound impact on Chinese economy We're again We're still in sort of the waiting room until sort of midsummer when all of the rest of the tariffs that were supposed to go into effect go back into effect and literally everything collapses. You're probably three to five weeks out from really starting to see it hit hard in like

the stuff you buy on a day-to-day basis, right? Yeah. People who are doing stuff like remodeling houses or building houses are starting to notice now. Yeah. I think people, car repair businesses and whatnot, people have to order parts, that is starting to hit. But your grocery store, that's really going to be most noticeable somewhere between three and five weeks from now.

Maybe sooner, probably not much longer. Well, and other things are about to get significantly worse. So this has been talked about for a long time. The buzz right now is that they're happening soon. I don't know exactly what that means, but there has been for a long, long time, Trump has been doing talking about doing tariffs on pharma. So congratulations. Get excited for all of your medication costing a lot more money. He also put into place a 100 percent tariff on foreign movies.

Well, we'll see. Yes. Yeah. But then he walked that back. He had a conversation with John Voight and announced to that 100 percent tar off on all movies. Yeah, not made in the US. Yeah, no one knows what that means How can you do that? What's a rough on a movie? What are we talking about? It's literally it's literally just like like he's doing tariffs in the way that like there's that but that guy for the wolf of Wall Street Is like what guy walks out of the room goes short everything has ever touched like it's like that thing Yeah, like he's gonna be terrifying like fucking ocean currents in two months

the responses to it have been have been so funny cuz Gavin Newsom arch dipshit of the Democratic Party was immediately like We love the idea of working with our president to keep the film jobs in California, you know Meanwhile Trump immediately was like well, maybe we won't do that. I think because there's still, at the very head of the studio system, some scary old mob type dudes, right? And I think a few of them made some like- Also, Tom Cruise is terrifying.

Tom Cruise, Tom Cruise like sat down, listen, Donald. I don't know what- You know, no one's heard from David Miscavige's wife in a long ass time and they don't have to hear from you either. Like you don't want to fuck with me. Yeah. Either that or Trump believes he actually is the Mission Impossible guy and you could convince them.

That's true. Somebody convinced him. Somebody convinced him de Niro's is. Didn't he reopen Alcatraz after the Alcatraz film add on the There is evidence. Yes, but it was the it was the Clint Eastwood one and not the much better Alcatraz film The Rock starring Sean Connery and Nicolas Cage a banger ages perfectly Watch it. Everyone watch it tonight. Fuck reading any more news Okay, there's more news though, unfortunately.

Yeah. Well, okay, there's one funny thing. The actual news here is part of what's going on here is just everything is just chaos. And this is something that like, I mean, I've had this conversation with a bunch of people who work in shipping over the last couple of weeks is that like, it's just chaos. Right? Like everything is changing all the fucking time. And this means that every time one of these things changes, a bunch of like the import codes and stuff just changes on the level of like the customs people. And like, just like literally the process of importing this stuff changes. And it's just a complete fucking disaster.

People are getting laid off constantly too. So like every single part of the government that's supposed to be doing this suddenly has less people. It's, it's an absolute rolling catastrophe. It will continue to get worse. There's also good evidence that like they know that it's gonna get worse. I'm gonna read this quote from USA Today. This is from Trump. I don't think a beautiful baby that's 11 years old needs to have 30 dolls, Trump told Meet the Press host Kirsten Welker. I think they

can have three or four dolls because what we are doing with China is just unbelievable. We have a trade deficit of hundreds of billions of dollars for China. I'm just saying they don't need to have 30 dolls. They can have three. Because what you're doing with China is just unbelievable. We have a trade deficit of hundreds of billions of dollars for China I'm just saying they don't need to have 30 dolls. They can have only four dollars and fifty pencils They can have five five pencils everyone. Oh, yeah This Christmas imagine if Joe Biden announced like alright, we're gonna have to cut down on Christmas gifts this year. We can't do it The Fox News would be like freaking the fuck out. We're like Joe Biden's taking away your kids Christmas and the pencils.

And yeah, who cares? Yeah. But I mean, like, like the actual thing here is like, yeah, I know. Like, these people understand that you're going to suffer. They don't give a shit. They want you to suffer. That's the whole point of their political project. Yeah. So, you know. Yeah. Owning the libs.

Anyway, is that all for tariff talk, Bia? Yeah, that's all we got on the tariffs. I am excited for Trump to meet Ethan Hunt on his last mission. There's still hope. Alright, I have a few more updates before we close out here. One on the federal judge back and forth. Last week, U.S. District Judge blocked the Trump admin's efforts via executive order to require what they deem as proof of citizenship to register to vote.

The judge stated that this case was about separation of powers and undue presidential interference in how states and Congress run and regulate elections. Our Constitution entrusts Congress and the states, not the president, with the authority to regulate federal elections. Writing quote, our constitution entrusts Congress and the states, not the president, with the authority to regulate federal elections. No statutory delegation of authority to the executive branch permits the president to short circuit Congress's deliberative process by executive order. So we'll see how that develops for now. I'll also be doing an update on the SAVE Act as it makes its way through Congress as well

for those interested. Another kind of voting suppression bill that's getting pushed through. This Tuesday, the Supreme Court upheld the trans-military ban, at least for now. It'll still process through appeals. But the Trump administration is now allowed to enforce the ban, which they previously couldn't because a lower court put the enforcement on hold. Yeah, so I think that the actual scariest part about that is if you read the language of what the court was talking about, they've been describing it as like someone who thinks that like they are a woman when they're actually a man, like isn't someone who can perform at like the standards of like honor and whatever that like a soldier needs. And this is I think a ramp up to the really, really dangerous thing that is coming, which is their attempt to just straight up brand being trans

as fraud. I mean, this is the this is the Trump admin's argument, correct? This is what they were writing. Yeah, yeah. This is the statement, I guess that the DOD is claiming that expressing a quote, false gender identity divergent from individual sex can't satisfy the rigorous standards necessary for military service. And they specifically talk about a soldier's commitment to an honorable, truthful, and disciplined lifestyle even in one's personal life. And they then go ahead to

claim that being trans inherently contradicts that. Matthew 10 That's the Trump admin's argument, which is going to be used to undermine transgender rights in the future, possibly threatening Title IX. Yeah. Yeah, it's very concerning. So the fact that they were able to, at this point, win this case in the Supreme Court, extremely worrying. Yeah.

I will just say that if this impacts you, someone you care about, someone you know, you can reach out to us. Obviously, there's a fair little we can do about it, but we are here to listen and to report the news. And you can do that at coolzontips at proton.me. It's only an encrypted email end to end if it comes from an encrypted email address to our encrypted email address. We are reading all of those. We may not respond to all of them, but we are taking note of them.

And we'll report on stuff in the future. The last thing I do want to add is like a raid that happened last week in California. Homeland Security Investigations, ICE, and Secret Service raided a house in Southern California looking for a man who months ago posted flyers around Los Angeles last January warning about ICE agents in the area with names, photos, and phone numbers, reading in Spanish, quote, careful with these faces, unquote. The feds served a criminal search warrant on the home of this guy's parents, even though he moved to New York last March. At least 15 armored vehicles pulled up to this upscale neighborhood with full militarized

federal SWAT. They seized routers and hard drives. Yeah, that's not great. Acting ICE director Todd Loins was on the scene for this operation. He told Fox News that he took it personally, that someone would put a target on his agents in an effort to interfere with them and put them at risk, saying the person will be held accountable. What they're using here is probably likely U.S. Code 119, protection of individuals performing

certain duties. Whoever knowingly makes restricted personal information about a covered person or a member of the immediate family of that covered person publicly available with the intent to threaten, intimidate, or incite the commission of a crime of violence against that covered person or a member of the immediate family. So this is likely what they're using, arguing that posting a photo on a flyer with the person's name and phone number is enough to threaten, intimidate, or facilitate the commission of a crime. Yeah. What constitutes covered persons under this? That's a good question, James. That's a screenshot, right? So you can't click that. That is a screenshot, and probably a question for a lawyer.

But they are arguing that the ICE agents fall under this purview. Yes. The term covered person means A. An individual designated to section 114, B. A grand jure, petty jure, witness, or other officer of the court, an informal witness in a federal criminal investigation or prosecution, state or local officer or employee whose restricted personal information is made publicly available because of the participation in or assistance provided to a federal criminal investigation. So it's part C. Yeah.

So that's what they're going to argue. The people's addresses weren't posted here. It was just their names and photos. But ICE and HSI are being very protective of the faces of agents doing immigration raids and student crackdowns right now. They're really nervous about agents possibly being targeted. So any attempt to identify these is being treated as a threat. A Homeland Security spokesperson told Fox News,

quote, these pathetic activists are putting targets on the backs of our law enforcement as they shield MS-13, Tren de Lagua, and other vicious gangs that traffic women and children, kidnapped for ransom, and poison Americans with lethal drugs. These individuals will be held accountable for obstructing the law and justice. This shouldn't be controversial." Great. Yeah. So, five people died after a panga carrying migrants capsized off Del Mar,

which is in North County San Diego. The search is ongoing. I believe another five are still missing. One of those is a 10-year-old girl from India. And Kristi Noem has said she wants the DOJ to pursue death penalty charges against the smugglers who brought these people over. These boats have been a thing for a while, but this is not the first of these tragedies, and it's obviously like we shouldn't lose focus of the fact that someone's little child died, which is horrific.

Yeah. Yeah. Tough News Week, as usual, I guess. Tough News Week. The only way to feel better is by fighting. But we did report the news. We did. We reported the news.

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