It Could Happen Here - Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #16

Episode Date: May 16, 2025

The gang talks about White House efforts to suspend habeas corpus and expand deportation efforts, while DeSantis builds new detention centers in Florida. Plus, updates on tariffs and Trump's crackdown on pro-Palestine students. Sources: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/ckg4zk22n9wo https://www.reuters.com/business/aerospace-defense/top-us-senate-democrat-block-trump-doj-nominees-over-qatar-airplane-2025-05-13/ https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2025/may/15/stephen-miller-is-wrong-the-president-cant-just-suspend-habeas-corpus https://www.reuters.com/world/us/us-homeland-chief-says-illegal-immigration-levels-could-warrant-suspending-2025-05-14/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/05/establishing-project-homecoming/  https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/15/us/politics/national-guard-immigration.html https://www.reuters.com/world/us/fbi-ordered-prioritize-immigration-cases-over-white-collar-crime-people-familiar-2025-05-12/  https://www.cbsnews.com/boston/news/waltham-mass-ice-arrest-boy-left-alone/ https://www.flgov.com/eog/news/press/2025/governor-ron-desantis-highlights-floridas-leadership-immigration-enforcement  https://support.iraplegalinfo.org/hc/en-us/articles/360057039031-What-is-the-U-S-refugee-resettlement-process https://welcome.us/explainers/us-refugee-admissions-program-suspended-until-further-notice-welcome-corps-terminated https://www.rescue.org/press-release/irc-responds-termination-state-department-grants-refugee-resettlement-program https://2021-2025.state.gov/refugee-admissions/ https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/02/addressing-egregious-actions-of-the-republic-of-south-africa/ https://www.nytimes.com/article/afrikaner-refugees-trump-south-africa.html https://za.usembassy.gov/refugee-admissions-program-for-south-africans/ https://www.episcopalchurch.org/publicaffairs/letter-from-presiding-bishop-sean-rowe-on-episcopal-migration-ministries/ https://www.aclufl.org/en/press-releases/new-report-reveals-alarming-conditions-florida-ice-detention-centers https://english.elpais.com/usa/2025-04-01/inhumane-conditions-and-death-at-miamis-krome-migrant-detention-center.html  https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/15/us/politics/national-guard-immigration.html https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/how-india-pakistan-pulled-back-brink-with-us-brokered-ceasefire-2025-05-13/ https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/trump-tariff-agreement-us-china-uk-what-it-means-what-to-know-rcna206365 https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/may/15/walmart-raise-prices-trump-tariffs https://archive.ph/pkUSY https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cq54ggd62w3o https://www.newsweek.com/pam-bondi-sold-shares-trump-media-same-day-tariffs-announced-2072543 https://archive.ph/uM7kp https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/cp3nd0dwlpgo https://www.reuters.com/world/us/pro-palestinian-georgetown-student-ordered-released-us-custody-2025-05-14/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I'm Garrison Davis. Today I'm joined by James Stout, Mia Wong, and Robert Evans. That's right, everybody. This episode we are covering the week of May 8th through May 15th. Trump gets bribed by Qatar. Stephen Miller wants to suspend habeas corpus and a Twitch streamer gets interrogated at the border. How are we doing, fellas?

Uh, I don't know. Bad. Like every time we do. I'm not talking to border patrol willingly and instead I'm not doing I'm staying the fuck away from the border Although it's also impossible to stay the fuck away from the border because like 90% of the country lives technically with Patrols from it. Yeah But if you are happening to go to the border and you do get stopped by law enforcement Yeah, but if you are happening to go to the border and you do get stopped by law enforcement, you should not talk to them.

You should say that you're staying silent and will only speak with a lawyer. You have certain things that you have to say, right? If they decide to talk to you about something other than, you know, here's my passport, etc. Do I have anything to declare? Which you do have to answer. If they attempt to engage you in other conversation about, say, your political beliefs, all you have to say is, am I being detained?

And if they say yes, you say, I plead the fifth and I demand to speak to a lawyer and then nothing else. There's nothing else you say. That's how you should handle this situation. Yeah. You definitely do not need to debate your politics not required with the border patrol Tell them how you feel about Palestine That's yeah, not gonna end well No, not necessary. And yeah, I like it's one of those things I have no desire to like get into an online beef with the fellow who got stopped He is a big boy and able to make his own choices,

but I do not recommend you make those same choices because there's no actual benefit to you in doing that. Right? Yeah. Yeah, don't talk to cops. It's very easy to not talk to cops. I'm doing it right now. Uh-huh.

That's what you think. Trivially easy. Yeah, it's simple and unnecessary. And it's just like largely the problem is that and This is even something that he talked about where like well the guy seemed really nice and he apologetic and like he didn't want to have to do this and If you're having a conversation like that with them, then They're getting what they want out of it, which is for you to feel like that, right?

For you to feel like oh, okay? For you to feel like, oh, okay, this guy's nice. I can chat with him for a little while. You feel safe enough to talk. Yeah. Yes. That's the whole goal. That's their entire job. That's what they're trying to get you to do. Their interrogation technique. Yeah, yeah.

And again, like this is specifically if you are like a US citizen coming to reenter the country, there's different rules and different suggestions, which you should talk with an immigration lawyer about if you are not a US citizen. Yes, this is not advice for people who are coming here and not citizens, yeah. Yeah, none of this is legal advice.

But yeah, you really, really do not need to get into a debate with the border guard about your politics when you're trying to enter the country. Or any other time, really, just don't, don't, yeah. Or really any time, frankly. Yeah, there's no point in time in which that's useful to you or anyone else you ain't changing their minds maybe maybe there's more to politics than debate no speaking of more

to politics the PKK yeah what's going on with the PKK fellas we should we should give a brief overview of who the PKK is. The PKK is the Kurdish Workers' Party, and it is originally a Maoist and now not that terrorist group. That's legally how it's defined by the United States and by most Western countries. That was started in Southern Turkey, like in the late seventies, close to 50 years ago. And it started out as a rather different kind of organization than it is. It's it's one of its founders. And generally the guy referred to as its founders, a dude named Abdullah Ajalan or Oppo, who got captured in Kenya a few decades back

and has been in a Turkish prison ever since. But it does continue to to write stuff that informs. Because there's this strong Maoist core at the heart of the foundation of the party, continues to have a lot of influence over it. This is the root of the different organizations that sprang out and became what we call Rojava. It's this group that came in during ISIS's invasion and, you know, had changed significantly from its Maoist roots at that point. And kind of from the PKK, we get the YPG and the YPJ and, you know, these different social

and militant movements in Northeast Syria. Anyway. Yeah. They would dispute the from the PKK they sure would yes the Roberts no wrong for a good legal reason yes but they're all inspired by the political thought of or your land right like we can say that safely yeah and or should learn I guess addressed by video the 12th Congress of the PKK which occurred earlier this month at which they voted to disband

themselves and lay down their arms. So that's the, they had a meeting, right? They get together. Obviously it seems that Turkey decided not to airstrike that meeting. Turkey has been carrying out airstrikes against the PKK in three different countries for decades and sort of small arms engagements as well and artillery and the whole nine yards. So yeah, at that conference, they decided to lay down their arms and begin disbanding

themselves and return to, they're still pursuing their struggle, I guess, for freedom for Kurdistan, but this time through the democratic process. Yeah. We're going to cover this subject in more detail on Tuesday, next Tuesday. But suffice it to say, like, this does not mean that, like, the PKK is, like, that all of the kind of different movements that came out of and were inspired by the PKK are, like, folding up and setting up shop. This is more of a pragmatic decision made as the result of the changes of situations on the ground and the progress that a number of these other movements have made. And yeah, this is worthy of deeper discussion. We'll give it deeper discussion. But this is something that's going to hopefully at least mean that Turkey spends less time bombing Northern Iraq,

although that, it may be foolish to hope too least mean that Turkey spends less time bombing Northern Iraq, although it may be foolish to hope too much for that. Yeah, it did. Do you love to bomb Northern Iraq? I guess they're calling it their Good Friday moment, for people who are familiar with the IRA situation. Yeah, when the IRA was like, maybe we've done enough. Yeah, and significantly when there were releases of people who were incarcerated.

Right, right. And the British government did make some significant concessions too. Yes. So we will learn more if there were concessions involved in this process or if it was a kind of unilateral thing. Yeah, there's a lot of rumors again, just to go briefly, that the Turkish government essentially needs, that Erdogan essentially needs some of the support of the Kurdish parties in order to maintain keep doing Erdogan shit. So again, we'll see on all that. Yep Speaking of not blowing each other up India and Pakistan. Well, yeah slightly blow it lightly blowing each other up. Can we say that without minimizing it? Yeah, there's some that been some blowing up. Yeah, so let's talk about this.

We are thankfully no longer on nuclear war watch. Yeah. Which is great. Nukewatch, put on pause. It's all cool. It's groovy. Everything's fine. I was talking with a friend last night about whenever this sort of confrontation happens,

one of the nice things about a globalist world order is that if the rest of the world goes, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, fellas, guys, calm down. Holy, come on now. It kind of works. Pull him back, pull him back. Hold me back, bro. China got a hand on Pakistan's chest.

Calm down, bro, calm down. It's not worth it, mate, it's not worth it. They're not worth it! That's the role of the United Nations. Look at JD Vance like massaging India's shoulders. I know man, I know, but it's cool! Whenever things get really spicy between two equal powers, if one of their buddies just can go, hey, hey, dude, whoa, whoa!

It kinda works, which is a little bit silly, but yeah. Yeah, just to remind everyone in charge, do you know how rich you are? Come on, you don't want this. Like, you've got hot tubs in your mansion. It ain't worth it. Yeah. Foreign politics, so much of it is just so unbelievably stupid.

Like, it is just like weird nationalist masculinity bullshit where it's like, okay, so we killed some of your people, and then you're gonna kill some of our people. And then we can both agree that we like, retaliated, neither of us back down, and then we'll do a ceasefire. So the good news here is that we did actually get a ceasefire, the ceasefire was holding and it's continued to hold. This is not like a kind of like Israel, Palestine ceasefire where the Israelis immediately just start like shooting everyone an instant later

This is actually holding it's good. It will probably continue to hold we got some more details from Reuters who talked to a bunch of officials From different camps, but we know now We're gonna do a longer episode about this next week Tuesday Yeah, all the wars on Tuesday Now, we're gonna do a longer episode about this next week. Tuesday. Yeah. All the wars on Tuesday. Probably Tuesday, unless like, I don't know, like some other shit happens, who knows. I don't want to ever promise an episode's going out in a day because like, I don't know. Tuesday or Wednesday.

It's like, we could wake up and like, Trump has like declared that like, his meme coin is now the official currency of the United States or something like Who knows but you say or Wednesday will say yeah yeah, so what was used to have happened that really escalated everything is that India fired on a critical Pakistani airbase and Pakistan was like alright gotta go fucking sick of mode now and Yeah, so they do their retaliation India appears to not have understood exactly how pissed off Pakistan was going to be about them hitting this Airbase which also like you would I don't know what their military planning is like you would assume trees normally Love it when you hit their air bases. Yeah, everyone knew rudo ran at area 51 What are we doing here? What are we doing here?

but the thing that does seem to have worked is that Marco Rubio Seems to have actually been like able to kind of pass information along between them Vance was also sort of involved it seemed mostly like Rubio was able to pass a thing to the Pakistani government being like hey the Indians are gonna stop and The Pakistani government was like yeah. Yeah, right Right, but fuck this this is getting down. We did our retaliatory attacks like we we've fucked up a bunch of expensive jets Like yeah, that is key is that everybody can sort of this didn't go on so far That that like everyone has a lot to avenge and it went on enough that everybody can claim some wins has a lot to avenge and it went on enough that everybody can claim some wins. Pakistan could be like, we really did some damage to India's best chunk of their Air Force.

And India can be like, we blew up some stuff, you know, everybody's got a... If you don't have enough information to know that like nobody really won, you can pretend you did. Right? And that's what both of them are doing. Yeah. And I think this was, this was what we were talking about this last week, like the best case scenario for, this is actually kind of better than the best case scenario I was thinking of. I mean, none of this is a good outcome,

but the outcome here of like, it's like a very abbreviated version of like an Israel-Iran thing where they shoot each other a few times and then stop. Hopefully this will continue to hold and hopefully both sides will not take this. This is something that they were talking about. One of the experts that we were just talking to was talking about was like,

hopefully both sides don't see this as a like, oh we can have conflict between two nuclear-armed powers and it'll be okay. Hopefully both sides are going to be like, this was very dumb. But right now it seems to be over. The ceasefire is holding. Hopefully more people don't die. Yep. Yeah, the dissolved stock price though.

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["The Frontiers of Marketing," by The Frontiers of Marketing plays.] Oh, yeah. Welcome back to something ED. If you have ED, please consider hims. Hims. Hims. Yeah. Cutter, I hardly... Okay, so... No, no, Garrison, I'm so proud of you, buddy. That was the right thing to say.

That was the right thing to say. What a beautiful moment. Ahead of Trump's planned trip to the Middle East, Cutter has offered a gift to President Trump a $400 million Boeing 747-8 luxury jet known as a Palace in the Sky, which Trump does plan to accept You gotta look up a picture of this thing it is absurd and I gotta say honestly my primary thoughts I know they should be like offense and anger, but that most they're mostly ah cutter You know the assignment you knew exactly how to this man can't turn down a luxury palace plane of

Someone should offer him the fucking snowpiercer. You know it's all gold up in there It is it it is all gold up in there actually you can look it up No, I don't need to garrison in my In my mind palace, I've already seen the palace in the sky. Oh my God! Okay, nobody needs to see it. Oh! All right, hit me with the link. Why didn't we allow this to be constructed?

Because it's one of those things, this is not, like again, should it not be legal for Trump to do this? Is it not legal for Trump to do this? Of course. Is it physically possible for the man Donald Trump to say no to this plane? No. No. That never was in the cards? This is a temple to the defeat of the International Workers Movement. Jesus Christ. I want to see pictures of this plane. Someone send me pictures of the plane. Oh, man. Oh, oh, good Lord. Oh, good Lord. Okay, I'm putting

it in the chat. I mean, it's exactly the plane you'd think it was It's the most Trump thing you could ever imagine. Yeah It's just Trump Tower in the sky like no it's it's actually what I will say about that here's a Trump Tower in the sky is like a shit built to look fancy to a shit built to look fancy to like tasteless Americans. The Qatari version actually is a little bit nice. They're extremely nice. Yes. Yeah.

The Emirate of Qatar knows what they're fucking doing when it comes to interior design for fucking evil rich people. This, you could have had this, if you replace the walls that are clearly a plane, this could have been like a set on Andor from like a high level Coruscant, like Rich Person's house. Like that's what we're talking, especially that like room with the elevator in the middle.

Like that's a set where Mon Mothma yells at her husband. Like it's beautiful. So this plane would be used as a new Air Force One. Sure buddy. And after his term, Trump would retain ownership through his presidential library foundation. Of course. That's normal. There is so many issues with this, from national security to a very clear bribe.

On Monday, Trump told reporters, quote, I could be a stupid person and say, no, we don't want a free, very expensive airplane. I thought it was a great gesture. Unquote. Of course. Of course. What? Yeah. Owned. Someone made a comment that like we received the Statue of Liberty as a gift. That's not really the same thing. Yeah, that's not really the same thing, guys. It's true. If like, I don't know who his president was when he arrived, but if the president was living inside the Statue of Liberty.

Was it Chester? I think it was Chester AR. Yeah. Okay. I don't remember exactly. I do also love that Trump isn't making the same argument that like the old, that Clinton supporters used to, which is like, well, you can take money from a thing without being influenced by it. And like the New York Times is making this argument. They're like, well, just because people are spending $1 million to have dinner at a crypto thing with Trump doesn't mean that he's actually being influenced by the money. So you can't call it bribery. And I was like, this is great society.

We love this. We love this. Just give him, give, give the president the fancy quid pro quat. Yeah. To be fair, Trump does have something of a history of entering into a financial contract with people and then totally Abandoning his end of it. So like you could make that up. Yeah It's so bad Trump to get into an argument with With ABC anchors when they asked him if he thought this could be seen as a bribe. I'll play a short clip here. What do you say to people who view that luxury jet as a personal gift to you? Why not leave

it behind? You're ABC fake news, right? Why not? It's only ABC. Well, a few of you would. Let me tell you, you should be embarrassed asking that question. They're giving us a free jet. I could say, no, no, no, don't give us, I want to pay you a billion or 400 million or whatever it is. Or I could say, no, no, no, don't give us, I want to pay you a billion or 400 million or whatever it is. Or I could say, thank you very much. You know, there was an old golfer named Sam Snead. Did you ever hear of him? He won 82 tournaments. He was a great

golfer. After that, he goes on to talk about golf for a whole minute, building an analogy based on making an easy putt on a golf course. I'm going to quote from BBC quote, Attorney General Pam Bondi reportedly investigated the legality of the deal and determined that because there are no explicit conditions attached, it would not amount to a bribe. Conservatives and others were quick to point out that Bondi was registered as a lobbyist for Qatar prior to joining Trump's cabinet, at some point earning up to $115,000 a month for her work for the Qatari government. Yeah, no one's going to be like influenced

by a mere $114,000 a month. You couldn't, for example, pay me that much money and get me to say everyone should buy a Chevy truck. The new Ram That's the vehicle of the proletariat Ram we know this is fake is Robert would never knowingly endorse a Chevy product Yes, and for a hundred and fourteen thousand dollars a month you think I wouldn't sell Chevy's This is the most like a corrupt administration we've ever seen before it's absurd like just completely like flying it in your face

Even Ted Cruz said that this gift could could impose quote Significant espionage and surveillance problems unquote because yeah, that plane is gonna be so fun for the secret service Oh my god It's just a bug, the whole plane is just a bug It's a flying bug It's so funny for the entire government. They're gonna listen in to every Air Force One meeting. Not only are they going to listen in to it, the guy whose job that is,

like they've already been paying almost as much as the plane costs for him to get preemptive therapy. To sit and listen to that many Trump inner circle conversations. The fucking Emir himself is putting a hand on me. I know, man, I know, it's gonna be hard. Like, we're all behind you. Everyone from like Ben Shapiro to Laura Loomer have opposed this de facto bribe as quote-unquote sleazy, while also pointing to Qatar as a terrorist-aligned state. Who did you think your guy was come on?

Yeah, you like a Donald Trump you believe he's gonna take a golden palace in the sky come on man Didn't they also wheel out a a mobile McDonald's for him in Qatar so he could Arabia Saudi Arabia that was Arabia. They're also planning to possibly construct a new Trump Tower in Dubai sure honestly Both Dubai and Trump deserve that kind of like shade. Yeah sure they belong together Yeah, the people that Trump is negotiating with here just really know how to like get wins out of him Yeah, Trump Tower. Here's a mobile McDonald's how to like get wins out of him. They're like, yeah, you can build a Trump Tower. Here's a mobile McDonald's.

Here's a 400 million dollar free jet. They really have him on lock. It's tragic because the mobile McDonald's and Burger Kings used to be a sign of American like logistical dominance. I was wondering if it had invaded Iraq. Like fuck our ability to like air strike anyone anywhere We can put a fully operational McDonald's anywhere on the planet about 16 hours like no one else can do that We invaded Iraq with Burger King trailers in

Yes, and to see it turned against our values so much is it's just deeply if no I mean I'm joking here, but it is funny speaking of foreign trade. What is that I hear? Is that is that the lucid melody of tariff? Tariff Garrison. Rockin' the Casbah, Terry, if you like it. Rockin' the Casbah, Rockin' the Casbah. We're all thinking about the best way we ever spent our company money. Every penny of that $114,000 a month Chevy gives us for telling people to buy the new Rams.

It went to a good place. Yeah. If we could just get one more automotive industry sponsor, then I can finally rewrite White Riot to be about white genocide in South Africa. That's right. We're courting Shell right now. So don't worry, James, we're going to get that cover, buddy. I'm glad to hear it. So I heard all the tariffs are gone, basically.

I heard we're back to normal. Nothing ever happens. I can go back to buying Tmoo all day long. I can't stop playing those Teemu gambling ads. And everything's normal, right Mia? Okay, so let's where we at with the tariff tariffs the 120% tariff that China had imposed retaliation. However, comma, there's still 30% blanket tariffs on all Chinese goods, which is in and of itself alone enough to cause a recession.

I just want everyone to start forgotten this. China's is back down to 10% across the board on all US goods. Now again, this is a 90 day pause Which has been like this is just the way that all this functions now is nothing ever ends It just gets kicked off like down the road for 90 days. So we'll be back here in 90. Well, okay We'll be back in the crisis zone a bit before like before that because we're still on the other 90 day countdown Which the the the liberation day turf tariff one for every single country on earth. Honestly, I don't think these countdowns are real. And I know this is like, this is like different from the way like, other commentators will talk about how these tariffs that aren't real. Like I'm not saying these tariffs aren't real. I don't know if there's someone in the White House who is literally counting down each day here like this. No, I think there is I think I think it's Navarro

Because Navarro actually wants all of these tariffs and that's that's the that's the the driving thing behind this It's Trump kind of wants these tariffs, but there's not enough of him there psychologically to like push it unless Navarro is doing it But the reason these are taking the form of pauses is because Trump like actually wants them Until he can like negotiate his big shiny deal or whatever the fuck That like can't happen structurally for reasons. We'll get into but like I'm just remembering the Canada Mexico tariffs that Trump put on a 90-day pause and then can we completely forgot about and instead it did the Liberation Day tariffs Which then got another 90-day pause no But there was also the but but also like the auto tariffs got paused and then those came off and like went into effect

Yeah, so some of these like have happened and like and I think I really think it the actual thing It comes down to is like will Navarro be the last person in the room with Trump or will it be one of his other cabinet? People who don't support this stuff and I think it's just a coin flip basically as to like who? ratfucks the other one successfully as to whether like all this stuff happens and there's still like more tariffs that are like floating in the air that we haven't heard anything about from last week wild wild tariffs frolicking in in the woods yeah like sour dough they can just float it I want to actually explain what the fuck is going on with the Chinese tariffs though because the reporting on it has been really bad and I know what

it's an idiot what the fuck is going on so okay Chinese tariffs though, because the reporting on it has been really bad and no one is an idiot what the fuck is going on. So, OK, on the one hand, there is still the 30 percent across the board on all Chinese goods. However, the fee for small packages, right, which is the stuff that was in the de minimis exemption

that we talked about getting reduced. So that tariff is at 54 percent or a one hundred dollar flat fee for the package. What qualifies as a small package value? I think it's like sub eight hundred dollars. OK, roughly. So yeah. And they also still have to go through like actual full customs,

which the which the packages from de minimis weren't going through. Right. OK. So this is still lethal to like Taimou and Chien and like all of all the companies that have been relying on this stuff It's still lethal to like vast quantities of the supply of like parts of the supply chain that we haven't even seen yet that we're getting Like the one kind of screw that they need in in cheap Chinese packages because you could just do that And so and so that's what's still in effect right now and And as best I can tell, there hasn't actually been any negotiation. It's also unclear whether the Chinese government knew that those were going to go back into effect. Because Trump did this whole thing of like, ah, the tariffs are over, blah, blah, blah, blah, ignore the 30% tariff on all goods. And then the next day he was like,

oh, yeah, no, but the small package one's still there. And that rates also changed. So it's also possible by tomorrow the rates are different because this is the dominant feature of all of this structurally is just complete chaos. Like it's just chaos. Nobody has any idea what the fuck is happening. And this is just a complete fiasco for literally everyone because the shifts in tariff rates that are happening on a day by day basis are shifts large enough to shift the entire structure of the global economy. shifts large enough to shift the entire structure of the global economy. And they're just happening every day. And that's, and that's the thing that's like fucking the economy almost as much as like the actual tariffs is just the chaos and the uncertainty and the inability to do any kind of like, even the short-term planning that businesses usually do it's also worth noting that like, there's no actual trade deal, right?

Like there isn't actually a U S China trade deal. There's just they both agreed to like back off for a while while they do negotiations. There's also no structural way to actually like resolve the problem that Trump sees here, which is that like Trump and Navarro and the hardliners don't want there to be a US trade deficit with China. And that's not a thing that could be solved. That's never going to happen. That's crazy. Yeah. Yeah.

And so, you know, and this has been playing out in other negotiations to the US has been in negotiations with India. Trump just like came out and straight up lied and said that India had agreed to get rid of all their tariffs. And India was like, no, we didn't. What the fuck are you talking about? Art of the deal. Yeah.

So, you know, this this is all turned into just an utter fiasco. Meanwhile, we're starting to see signs that, yeah, the price increases that we all turned into just an utter fiasco Meanwhile, we're starting to see signs that yeah the price increases that we all knew were coming are coming Walmart is doing massive Price increases a bunch of other companies are considering them. They're probably going to start very soon I want to read this quote from an economist named Marcus Nolan that NBC talked to who was a senior Institute for the Pearson Institute for International Economics He said, quote, I think we're in for a lot more turbulence and a lot more back and forth than the market seems to grasp, which I'm glad someone else is finally fucking saying this because like, yeah, no shit. And part of what's going on here, too, is the

market is just incredibly easy to manipulate because people running the markets are very stupid. And the moment they realize like like, you can just very, very easily make an unhinged amount of money by being like, the tariffs are going to go into effect and then batting against the market. There's been so much, like, insider stories of, like, insider trading from this stuff. And I don't think that's, like, the major thing going on, but it's also, like, it's just such an easy grift to pull

if you know what's going to happen. Like, I could have made a bunch of money if I'd been willing to be like, hey, friends, give me a bunch of money to put into the stock market, let me short a bunch of shit the day before the liberation day tariffs or whatever. And that's a plug for our new weekend show where Mia does Jim Cramer. We're gonna start doing stock portfolio suggestions. It's called Markets with Mia. Markets with Mia, thank you, James, yeah.

Well, I will fucking, I will throw darts at a dartboard and then throw the dartboard at A larger dartboard and I will outperform Jim Kramer Yeah, we're calling this the do whatever the opposite of Jim Kramer says power hour We've literally just reversed his audio It's such a powerful investment strategy never been defeated Okay, so so the one last thing I want to talk about, which is not quite tariff,

but is is econ related, is that there are per the financial times there is a plan in the Trump administration to roll back a bunch of the rules about leverage ratios that were imposed on banks after 2008. And so, OK, Mia, what the fuck is a leverage ratio?

Thank you. The very short version of this. It's where you put a lever underneath the bank. If you want to tip it over you have to Be quite a long way like away from it actually and then you pivot on the other end I think this is a very funny joke for no one else is laughing on the call No, I would try to figure out how to write part two of it, but then you just brought up Archimedes I'm trying to remember Archimedes name, but I couldn't do it So okay

So basically basically what this, is that so banks have just like a bunch of unbelievably risky assets and this is a requirement that they actually have assets that are safe. Yeah. So they have the assets that are risky go under they don't get fucking nuked like everyone did in 2008. Now this is worth noting because one of the other kind of stories that's kind of flown under the radar is that in the past couple of years, a bunch of banks and a bunch of investment firms have been getting back to the literally the exact types of extremely risky mortgage backed securities that caused the 2008 financial collapse.

It's literally the same people that bring them back to the same thing again. They've also been doing it with auto loans, which is great. And in the middle of this, the Trump administration wants to roll back a bunch of the protections that have been maintaining this very, very precarious balance of the banking system has been in to like not really collapse for the past decade and a half. So that's going to be fun. The rumor is going to happen over the summer. If he does this over the summer, right as everything kicks off, it's going to be a trip. Do you know what else is a trip? These products and services that support this podcast. Woo! I found out I was related to the guy that I was dating.

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All right, we are back. We're going to close this episode with me and James talking about a whole bunch of really bad immigration stuff that has happened again, which I feel like is kind of an evergreen for us. Same thing with Teraf Talk. We always have some bad immigration news. And this week is no different. On Friday, May 9th, Stephen Miller announced that the administration is, quote, actively looking at suspending habeas corpus. James, do you want to give a very brief definition of what habeas corpus is? Yeah, it's the foundation of like most legal systems in the world, which draw, I guess, on English common law, means bring me the body, right? Like the idea is you have to present some evidence before just incarcerating. If you're going to say this guy killed somebody, there better be a corpse, right?

Needs to be like reason and due process for detention. Yeah. Yeah. You can't just lock like reason and due process for detention. Yeah, yeah. You can't just lock someone up because you want it to. Yeah. Actually you can, but you shouldn't. You sometimes can. And this does predate the United States and the United States itself has suspended habeas corpus a few times, usually in specific states.

For instance, following the Pearl Harbor attack, habeas corpus was suspended in Hawaii to detain Japanese civilians. President Grant and Congress worked together to suspend habeas corpus in South Carolina during Reconstruction amidst terrorist attacks from the KKK, which is kind of crazy to think about in retrospect. And the very first time habeas corpus was suspended was in the lead-up to the Civil War when President Lincoln called for its suspension in the state of Maryland. That unilateral action was later deemed unconstitutional by the Supreme Court, and now it's widely recognized that only Congress has the right to suspend habeas corpus.

This is in the case of rebellion or invasion. This is something that Stephen Miller is talking about. It should be incredibly worrying. Obviously, they've kind of tried to make this happen just already without like explicitly saying so, which is also what like FDR tried to do during World War Two, where they don't formally like call for the suspension like nationwide, but they start instituting policies that definitely like do that. Yeah, exactly. Which is why we're seeing so many habeas petitions being filed across the state when people have been detained unlawfully. Homeland Security Secretary

Kristi Noem said on Wednesday in a congressional hearing that the level of border crossings under Joe Biden provides sufficient legal justification to suspend habeas corpus following Trump's declaration of invasion. So this is something to watch out for as they start trying to basically codify all of the actions that they're currently doing, which can be construed as illegal or certainly legally questionable. They're going to try to find ways to make them more explicitly legal. So, probably the most notable immigration happening this week is one that we already covered on the show and it is the

Reopening of the United States refugee admissions program. We're taking refugees again. We did it. We did it Yep, unfortunately, we're only taking the the persecuted Afrikaners of South Africa. Wait, what? Mm-hmm. Yes, Harrison the survivors of the white genocide Those those who made it through quote-unquote white genocide the white genocide that those who made it through. Quote unquote white genocide. The white genocide that even Grok doesn't agree exists. Yeah, let me- Elon Musk can't make his digital child believe in. No, let me actually quote from a Grok doing a George R. Banks impression.

We don't have to do this, Garrison. Meesa Grok, oopsie, yousa askin' about the replies, but Misa thinks you're meaning the big talk about South Africa, yeah? Do white genocide talk a mucho controversial? I'm sorry, I can't do the rest. That's not even good Jar Jar, I'm sorry. He speaks Spanish. Are they just chucking all the racial stereotype?

Yeah, it's just racist. How do they make it more racist farmers getting attacked too much like 214 attacks a year and political words like killed before making it worse I'm not getting hazard pay for exposure to this. It does go on for like four more sentences. There's so much more. I love how you said like it's a fucking dubstep record or something. If only we could cut in the song,

I've never met a nice South African right here. I think we can. We'll just do the first verse. We just discussed it. We're fine with the copyright. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Throw that in here. Yup. It's even got a reference to Myanmar.

So we're fine. We've covered it before. It's a central topic. It's a worldly song. Misa says, no, thank you. Stop. I've gone... Sophie's giving a double thumbs down.

Everyone is very upset right now. Apart from Garrison. Who's laughing like a little imp, having introduced Jar Jar Binks to the call. Right, back to the Afrikaners. The 59 Afrikaners who were brought to the United States came after the United States halted all refugee admissions in January. Thousands of people, including Afghans and Iraqis who worked for the United States, remain stranded. Some of them are stuck at airports. Most of them are in third countries where they only have limited visas and they're looking at timing out their

visas in those third countries. As a direct result of the Trump administration's fuckery with the white genocide stuff, the Episcopalian Church, not the most work of organizations, has suspended its contracts, its resettlement contracts with the government. Critical support? Yeah, I mean, I read the letter from one of their bishops on our show about this, and like, he was very forthright. And like, I generally genuinely do have critical support for the faith-based organizations who help refugees. It's a good thing to do and I'm glad that they are doing it. Especially if they're not trying to like turn it into a weird missionary operation like evangelicals do.

For sure, yeah. Yeah, I mean, what's it called? The fucking Glenn Beck one doesn't. It's not a resettlement agency, luckily. So in Worcester, Massachusetts, a place that I didn't know there was a Worcester in America. Actually it this yes Oh, yeah, so how is it then that as a nation Americans are incapable of saying Worcestershire? Oh boy Yeah, it says that's just one state and it's not a good one. Also. That's the sauce Right. It's also the place I was born garrison Well, well Yeah Worcestershire for those of you wondering, there it is.

Yeah, I get I do. We do have to call it Worcester, because that's what it's called in this country. I care a lot about accurate pronunciations of places and names. So it is Worcester. Yeah, Worcester is a city and Worcestershire is the county in England too. You don't have the county and we have Massachusetts. So Worcester, Massachusetts, ICE threatened to arrest a 21-year-old woman named Augusta Clara, and they told her that they'd have to take her three months old baby as well, because they couldn't leave it with her 17-year-old sister on account of the younger woman being a minor. As it turned out, this was a ploy to lure out her mother.

Clara called her mother who came out to take the baby and they arrested her mother, which was who they'd been wanting to arrest the whole time. This arrest came the day after they'd arrested the baby's father in what Clara says was a response to him honking his horn at an undercover ICE agent. Neighbours tried to intervene in the scene, which resulted in the Worcester, Massachusetts Police Department responding. The cops proceeded to body slam 17-year-old girl, arrest her and arrest a local woman for what they claimed was pushing them. Locals have been protesting since. The City Council has moved its meetings online,

citing public safety concerns. And in another bungled raid in the same state, ICE agents left a 12-year-old child alone on the sidewalk and drove their vehicle aggressively towards a city councillor who was trying to document the situation. Meanwhile, in Florida, DeSantis has sworn in 100 Florida Highway Patrol deputies as Special US Marshals, claiming this allows them to conduct immigration enforcement operations of their own outside of cooperation with ICE or CBP. That adds to the 2000 ATF and DEA agents the Trump administration has requested to join ICE teams. So when you're watching videos, sometimes you'll see when there are these ice snatch quads,

there are ATF agents with them. And what they're generally there to do is to provide additional security on the team while the ICE agents do the actual apprehensions. De Santis has also offered new detention facilities. I haven't seen much reporting on this, but in the same statement on his website where he talked about cross-swearing the highway patrol guys, he also talked about these quote new detention facilities. And I want to take this opportunity to reflect on the existing detention facilities in Florida because they are the worst in a system of horrific detention facilities. The ACLU has documented quote, persistent emotional, physical and sexual abuse at the hands of staff of these facilities. The ACLU has documented, quote, persistent emotional, physical and sexual abuse

at the hands of staff at these facilities. Detainees are reportedly being punished for simply seeking medical care, being denied medical attention despite having pre-existing conditions. The report also found ample evidence of gendered and racialized mistreatment. The Chrome Detention Center, that's KROMER-O-M-E, is in particular horrific. Migrants there in one instance were held in chains on buses for 16 hours and told to use the bathroom where they were sitting on the buses. A migrant named Osiris Azahel Vazquez Martinez somehow kept his phone inside the Chrome Detention Center and was able to live stream or at least post videos that showed horrific overcrowding.

Some sources claim there are as many as 4,000 people in the detention center, which has a capacity of 500. And two people that we know of have died there since January. Florida looking to add more detention centers, not great. That's about all I got. Garrison, talk to us about Project Homecoming, who's coming home. Yeah, and again, we will actually close on some good news

so it's not all horrible stuff this entire time, but we do need to mention Project Homecoming. So this was a proclamation issued by Trump on May 9, entitled Establishing Project Homecoming, which aims to curb a full-scale invasion. It claims to devote more federal resources to assist self-deportation via the CBP Home app, including paying for flights for those who are voluntarily and permanently departing the United States, unquote.

It says, quote, the Secretary of State and the Secretary of Homeland Security shall create a concierge service whereby any alien illegally present in the United States may arrive at an airport with or without appropriate travel documents, book air travel to permanently relocate to a different country. So they are really strengthening these self deportation mechanisms. Section two promises to provide financial incentives in the form of a quote unquote exit bonus for each illegal alien who voluntarily and permanently departs the United States. Yeah.

So a couple of really weird things there just off the bat. Yes. Aid like permanently departs. It seems to suggest that you would be permanently barred from ever entering the United States acquiring a visa again. Secondly, if you don't have travel documents, the country that you're traveling to or through has no reason to admit you, right? The US government cannot force other countries to admit people without travel documents.

There are things called refugee travel documents, which allow people who have had their passports, etc stolen to travel. I don't think that's what's going to happen here. Yeah, it does mention something about trying to like negotiate with other countries to allow people without documentation to arrive there. But like, yeah, will they actually do that? Probably not. Like they've claimed to not have to need to do that before.

So like, yeah, that's not like a solid promise. Now, those who choose to remain will face quote, sweeping consequences, including removal, prosecution, incarceration and fines as consistent with applicable law for immigration related crimes, the garnishment of wages and the confiscations of savings and personal property, including homes and vehicles." So they're threatening to steal all of your things. This proclamation follows this like propaganda video shared by Cristino and the Department of Homeland Security. This video was released a few weeks ago and it contains some similar rhetoric regarding self-deportation and fines being imposed for those who stay in the country. An illegal alien from Guatemala charged with raping a child in Massachusetts. An MS-13 gang member from El Salvador accused of murdering a Texas man.

A Venezuelan charged with filming and selling child pornography in Michigan. These are just some of the heinous migrant criminals caught because of President Donald J. Trump's leadership. I'm Kristi Noem, the United States Secretary of Homeland Security. Under President Trump, attempted illegal border crossings are at the lowest levels ever recorded, and over 100,000 illegal aliens have been arrested. If you are here illegally, you're next. You will be fined nearly $1,000 a day, imprisoned and deported.

You will never return. But if you register using our CBP home app and leave now, you could be allowed to return legally. Do what's right. Leave now. Under President Trump, America's laws, border and families will be protected. The whole style of this video is very bizarre. Yeah, it's like a Marvel trailer. It's like a Marvel trailer with the aesthetics of like mid-2000s dystopian sci-fi. Yeah.

Again, the end of that video she talks about being able to return legally, which is in contrast to the language in a project homecoming, which says that people would be leaving the United States permanently. Finally, the proclamation directs the Secretary of Homeland Security to within 60 days supplement existing law enforcement and removal operations by deputizing and contracting state and local police, former feds, and quote, the enforcement and removal operations force of the Department of Homeland Security by no less than 20,000 officers in order to conduct an intensive

campaign to remove illegal aliens." And now as of this morning, May 15th, the DHS has requested to mobilize over 20,000 National Guard troops from the Department of Defense to comply with Trump's order to expand its immigration crackdown. And on Wednesday, the FBI ordered agents to deprioritize white-collar crime investigations for the remainder of 2025 to instead focus on immigration enforcement. Field offices notified their agents that now one-third of their time must go towards assisting Trump's immigration policies. The orders came on the same day that Matthew Gagliotti, the head of the Justice Department's Criminal Division, issued

new guidance to prosecutors that scales back to the scope of white collar cases historically pursued by the department and orders prosecutors to, quote, minimize the length and collateral impact of such investigations. Geez. Again, the most corrupt administration ever, ever before seen. Yeah. And now for the good news to close

the episode. The Tufts University student Ruzmé Oz-Turk, who was black bagged on the streets of Massachusetts for co-authoring a pro-Palestine op-ed, has been released on bail as of May 9th after spending six

weeks in ICE detention. The judge said that Ms. Oz-Turk's claims of her First Amendment and due process rights being violated are, quote unquote, very after spending six weeks in ICE detention. The judge said that Ms. Ostrick's claims of her First Amendment and due process rights being violated are quote unquote, very substantial. And then on Wednesday, May 14th, the Georgetown University researcher from India named Bataar Khan Suri was released

from immigration detention as he continues to fight two deportation cases brought against him by the Trump administration for his support of Palestine. So this is now the third or fourth person that has been released from ICE custody following political prosecutions based on their activism. Yeah. And that's a good thing. Now, these cases are still going to be continuing in courts, but the fact these people have been released from ICE detention is good news. And in most cases they were released on their own recognizance without GPS tagging or any... Yeah, they're free to move throughout the country because most of them have cases in multiple states. ICE is trying to move them around to many different locations.

And I know that Surrey and Usturk are able to go back to their homes. Yeah, so it's good. It shows that the courts are are able to go back to their homes. Yeah. So it's good. It shows that the courts are still able to stop some of this stuff at this time. Yes. And that the actual ability of a lawyer to intervene when you were treated illegally by the state is not known. Yeah.

Yet. Yeah. Good point. Positive developments here. But as we'll see with Miller's goal of getting rid of habeas corpus and accelerating law enforcement operations with these 20,000 new National Guard troops, this is something that's still going to be a very hot issue for quite a while. We will continue to report on it as it develops. Well everybody, until next time, remember something.

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