It Could Happen Here - Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #19
Episode Date: June 6, 2025The gang discuss the firebombing in Colorado, TACO Trump, ICE raids, and Elon Musk's messy White House breakup. Sources: https://www.kpbs.org/news/public-safety/2025/05/19/san-diegos-highest-paid-city...-employees-cops-racking-up-overtime-and-earning-over-400-000 https://www.nilc.org/resources/how-calif-dl-records-shared-with-dhs/ https://www.gofundme.com/f/support-for-detained-buona-forchetta-employees https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/research/expedited-removal https://www.npr.org/2025/06/04/nx-s1-5422248/trump-steel-aluminum-50-tariffs-double-prices https://finance.yahoo.com/news/live/trump-tariffs-live-updates-trump-and-chinas-xi-jinping-speak-at-last-agree-to-more-talks-191201181.html https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2025/06/02/immigration-restrictions-pile-up-on-international-students/ https://apnews.com/article/international-students-visas-trump-guidance-social-media-a1f5180ce83560aff66dd65534906697 https://apnews.com/article/international-students-visas-trump-guidance-social-media-a1f5180ce83560aff66dd65534906697 https://sahanjournal.com/public-safety/minneapolis-lake-street-law-enforcement-ice-homeland-security/ https://www.axios.com/2025/06/03/elon-musk-trump-white-house-relationship https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/elon-musk-privately-expresses-frustration-range-recent-moves/story?id=122485920 https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/28/us/politics/elon-musk-trump-doge.html https://www.nytimes.com/2025/05/30/technology/trump-palantir-data-americans.html See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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Taco Trump sweeps the nation.
Musk is out with Stephen Miller's wife.
Liberation Day tariffs are fought in court.
This episode covering the week of May 28 to June 4.
So much good stuff this week.
Also a terrorist attack, not good.
But before we get into that, I wanna let you guys know,
I watched the movie Mountain Head,
and then I had a dream starring all of you
in the movie Mountain Head.
And it went a lot better since we were just skiing
and enjoying the woods.
That's nice, I don't know anything
about the film Mountain Head.
Nobody launched an AI that destroyed civilization.
Steve Carell wasn't there.
Actually, I wouldn't mind hanging out with Steve Carell,
but not the Steve Carell from that movie.
Anyway, interesting movie.
Yeah.
Interesting dream, too. Better sounds of it.
Wow. Thanks for that quick Robert film review.
Thanks for sharing, bud.
Yeah.
I guess a side piece of news that we aren't focusing on, like, much today,
but we will do
a piece on in the future is Trump has cut a deal with Palantir to create an extensive
new database that compiles information on everybody in the country.
This covers bank numbers, student debt, medical claims, disability status.
I think this summer, myself or a few other people on this episode, we'll work together
on an episode just about surveillance, like Flock, Gideon,
Foundry, these surveillance systems that are getting like spread all across the country.
So we will do a whole episode on that in the future. But let's start with that and then
pivot to Robert Evans to discuss terrorism.
I hardly know terrorism. Someone else should continue the episode now.
No, this is your segment.
Am I going right now?
You're out of luck!
That was a perfect segue!
Nobody's bailing you out of this shit!
Then we're fine!
Oh my god!
Let me pull up the proper doc.
Because I did this on my Chachescu doc.
Because we recorded both of those episodes today.
What a heartwarming day you've had, Robert. Oh yeah, Chichescu doc, because we recorded both of those episodes today. Mm-hmm. God, what a heartwarming day you've had, Robert.
Oh, yeah.
Chichescu, a guy firebombing a rally in Denver.
It's all been really good stuff.
Yeah.
Mostly chill things.
So on June 2nd, there was a rally in Boulder, Colorado for a group that was protesting for hostages that were
taken by Hamas on October 7th.
There's like, I think 50, somewhere around 50 who are still unaccounted for, for varying
reasons.
And that was, that was what the protest was for.
And there was like, there was like a gathering and they were supposed to be doing like a
run, right?
Uh, in order to raise awareness about the hostages, right?
So that's, that's, that's the event that happened on the second.
And a man approached during that gathering, Mohammed Sabri Soliman, and he started throwing
molotov cocktails.
Every story I have gives slightly different numbers for how many molotovs he had prepared
and how many he had when he was taken.
Like an AP News story said that he had 16 unused molotovs
that were covered by law enforcement after the attack.
But I think CNN said 14. Yeah, 14 unlit molotovs.
So it's kind of unclear to me how many they were.
But he threw a number of these at the group of demonstrators.
He also had what's described in most of the articles I find as a improvised flamethrower.
And so, you know, when I heard that, my first question was like, a makeshift flamethrower. Sorry, was the exact term the police used.
And when I first heard that, I was like, well, that could mean a lot of things. They could literally just be like he had like a can of like spray that's that's flammable that he liked with the lighter up to. Could have links deodorant. No, it was apparently like a fertilizer or pesticide sprayer type deal that he had fuel in,
right? So it actually was a makeshift flamethrower. He was attempting, but he did not use it
on the demonstrators. He did burn himself pretty badly. He had like body armor on that he took
off after he like, basically what seems to have happened is he throws something like half a dozen fire bombs at this
crowd and he he injures a number of people several of them quite severely
there's at least last I checked six people who are still in the hospital one
in critical condition although that may have changed since we recorded this
podcast the victims who are wounded range in age from 52 to 88.
So he hurts a number of people with these molotovs and then the way he described it,
he felt like he couldn't continue going through with the attack.
He had been planning this thing for more than a year, we know, or at least that's what he
claimed. He basically said that once I actually started it, I
found it very difficult to continue.
So it seems like he kind of like, didn't go as far with this thing as he could
have, because it turns out lighting people on fire, even when you're very
angry is something that most people cannot bring themselves to do past a
certain point.
Yeah.
He is on video screaming Palestine is free
and he stated to the authorities
that when he'd been planning this for a year,
his goal was to kill Zionists.
So, you know, this is very, it's very clear
like what this is motivated by, right?
Like what his motivation was.
His background is interesting, I guess you'd say.
He and his family come from Egypt and yeah, he attended like high school in Egypt and later moved to Kuwait.
He has a history of like, it seems like he kind of got politically active during the Arab Spring.
He posted a bunch of pictures of Mohammed Morsi, the leader of the Muslim Brotherhood, who served as Egypt's president from 2012 to 2013, he protested against the military coup that removed Morse from power.
Yeah.
And he and his family entered the United States in August of 2022 as a non-immigrant visitor.
And in 2023, he received a two-year work authorization, which expired in March.
He had tried to come to the US in 2005.
His primary goal in heading coming here in 2022
was to get his daughter primarily
into a good medical school.
He moved there with his wife and his kids.
His daughter was on the process of graduating.
They had been living in Kuwait,
but for a variety of reasons,
especially the fact that they were not citizens,
she was like, I'm not gonna be able to go into medicine
in Kuwait.
His daughter seems to be a very gifted medical student.
Yeah.
And so they moved here and she got into a medical school.
And in fact, he seems to have waited to carry out his attack until her graduation.
Like he wanted her to be started on her path to becoming a doctor before he carried out this attack.
I think both in the hope that it would protect her and she wouldn't get forced out of the country,
which we'll talk about in a little bit.
And I think probably just because he's your dad and he wanted to see her graduate, right?
Yeah.
But then he carries out this attack.
His family does not seem to have known.
He basically left some messages for them as he left to carry it out.
Um, his wife took his phone into the authorities, which I read as her being
like, I'm at this point trying
to do whatever I can to make the government less likely to prosecute the rest of my family.
Yeah.
Like he's a write off, right?
Right.
Like dad, like he, like, I, like, I can't be concerned about him, right?
I've got kids, you know?
And like potentially trying to stop anything else happening if he was, you know, like maybe
he had other people who had been playing this with who were planning other things.
Right. She doesn't know. Did he build a bomb? Right. She has no idea.
Yeah.
I should also note here that when he was planning this attack, he initially planned to do a shooting.
He took a concealed carry class, or at least he told investigators he took a concealed carry class, right?
He could be lying about some of this. This is what the police have reported.
Yeah.
But he took a concealed carry class, but he was not able to buy a gun. The AP News article says was denied because he's not a legal US citizen.
You don't have to be a citizen to buy a gun.
Yeah, that's not correct.
But you do have to be in the country legally, right? Like you do not have to be a citizen
to purchase guns in this country, but you do have to be legal.
I think you have to be a resident, like certain visa categories.
There's a number of ways to get a gun while not a citizen, but he was not able to.
Yeah.
And thank goodness, right?
Like it's horrifying.
Like obviously burning people is horrifying.
Like the injuries that these people suffered are pretty, are deeply, like
there's no pleasant burn injury, but people would have just died if he'd shot them.
Right.
Like that's just the reality of the situation.
And that's already happened in Boulder once.
Like Boulder had a mass shooting at a supermarket.
Right. Not so long ago. Yeah. So that's the bones of what happened here.
Now, I mean, having this like less than a week after the embassy shooting is pretty notable.
Not great. Yeah. Speaks to the contagion way these kinds of things spread, right?
Exactly. I mean, last week we talked about how like this plays into like media that only benefits
the actions that Israel's continuing to take and how much immediate attention was going
towards the shooting and like the immediate aftermath.
And something that I found a little bit interesting is how fast that story kind of went away,
which I wasn't really expecting.
I thought it would be relevant for a little bit longer. People try it would be relevant for a little bit longer.
People would try to keep it relevant for a little bit longer.
I think part of the reason why maybe it went away faster than what we thought is
so that it would not encourage like copycat attacks.
Right.
And that still seems to happen to a degree.
And I mean, it sounds like this guy was planning something for a little bit longer.
Yes.
But certainly having that other shooting in like a close time proximity is notable.
Yeah.
I mean, the unfortunate reality is that like, I'm sure there's someone else, multiple other
people who have been planning for different periods of time, other kinds of attacks, and
we will continue to see stuff like this happen, right?
Some of this is when something as terrible as the genocide happening in Gaza is happening on
a small screen in front of your face and you are consuming hours of the curated worst footage
of it every day, people are going to react and they're not always going to react in the
most thoughtful way.
Sometimes they're going to make a bunch of fucking fire bombs and attack a group of people
who, there's not really any argument that these particular groups of people had any influence.
Yeah, any material consequence.
Any power in the Israeli government, but...
Yeah, one of them's a Holocaust survivor.
People are gonna take irrational, terrible action.
That's just gonna happen, you know?
Yeah, it breaks people.
Yeah.
That kind of prolonged vicarious trauma especially is not good for you.
I think a lot of the Sloan Wolf attack is almost a way that people like cope with themselves after
watching this thing unfold on your screen. Right.
And then as a response. I have to do something is what he said.
Right. Like I'm never going to be able to live with myself.
Exactly. Do something and then as a response,
you use the violence of a gun to carve your name into history.
And yeah. As someone who did something I did something. Yeah, this is this is something and you know, it's
It's it's bad. Look at it. It just had it's just some number of people
This is how they're they're gonna react and to an extent
I I don't know I don't know how you seek to stop this
You know the authorities have have it like confirmed this guy was not on anyone's what watch list.
I'm sure neither will the next guy or gal who does something right like.
This is the world quite quite frankly this is part in part the world the internet is made right yeah not that not that it would be good if horrifying footage of the genocide in Gaza wasn't getting out to people but.
footage of the genocide in Gaza wasn't getting out to people. But like this isn't the first time we have watched a series of attacks carried out and cop attacks and copycat attacks like
carried out and spread as a result of things that are spreading in digital media, right?
Like this is a this is like a thing that's happened over and over again. This is just
kind of how the internet and radical violence works.
Well, it's one of the things we're like, you know, there is a clear way to end the violence which is to end the genocide
Yes, the other benefit of ending the genocide, but these people have no interest in that
No these people and I don't I don't know how to right like like like I don't like if you're asking like well
How do we in the genocide?
We're like I guess you could get the entire international community to stop trading or selling weapons to Israel and also blockade the country.
But like, well, then how do we do that? They're not gonna, right?
Like, I can't make them, I can't make the US shoot down Israeli missiles or aircraft.
Like, I don't have the ability to like yell our government into doing that.
Yeah, and it's how do you, right? Like, as a person, potentially a person who's isolated.
I don't know, man.
If this person isn't part of a community,
right? I hasn't found community like processing that trauma and feeling like you have to do
something. Some people's brains will break in a way that leads to violence. Yeah. I want
to talk about state violence now, if that's okay, because I think what he did was fucked
up and wrong. And I think no one should obviously be firebombing Holocaust survivors. I think that's something we can agree on.
What has happened to his family is also wrong.
Right?
You shouldn't be punished for being related to someone who did a bad thing.
And oh god, and this is yeah, this is also horrifying.
Yeah.
Yeah.
The whole thing is a story of like collateral damage.
Yeah.
So the White House on 412 PM on the 3rd of June tweeted, just in, colon, the wife
and five children of illegal alien Mohammed Suleiman, the suspect in the anti-Semitic fire
bombing of Jewish Americans, have been captured and are now in ICE custody for expedited removal.
Next part is in block capitals.
They could be deported as early as tonight.
This is heartbreaking, right?
Like, again, like we've talked about habeas before, but the foundation of everything that
legal systems based on English common law hold is you have to have evidence that the
person did something wrong, not that they're related to the person who did something wrong.
Right.
You know, Robert and I are both intimately familiar, at least, you know, I've received
calls from young people in Burma who we've interviewed whose families have been captured
because of their participation in the revolution and like, yeah, this is not a path that you
should be going down.
I want to explain very briefly what expedited removal is, because I have seen some shit
that suggests maybe folks don't understand
it. That's fine, it's complicated. So expedited removal is supposed to be reserved for people
who arrive at a land border port of entry or IWI. IWI is an acronym entering without inspection.
That means entering between ports of entry, right? Over the wall, under the wall, over the beach,
what have you, entering without going through
a port of entry.
And they're supposed to have been here for less than two years.
The Trump administration has been massively expanding the use of expedited removal recently.
Why they're doing this is because in an expedited removal proceeding, lower level immigration
officials can remove people without them seeing a judge.
Those people can still make a credible
fear claim, which has to be assessed by an asylum officer and then approved by a judge.
But this is a lot harder than going through the asylum process and they have to prove beyond
reasonable doubt, I guess. I think it's a reasonable fear frame. I think a credible fear is a higher
standard for another removal proceeding, that they are likely to be tortured by the government or with the acquiescence of their government
if they're sent home.
Use had previously peaked with 197 cases in 2013.
That was under Obama, right?
And surprisingly, you didn't see people writing about it then.
It was used even more extensively by the Biden administration, especially in 2024, when Biden passed his asylum ban, right, by executive order.
The first Trump administration did use it.
They used it in a more broad range of cases, but they didn't use it in as many cases as either the Obama or the Biden administration.
Expedited removal is supposed to be for the most serious cases for things where the person is a threat
or a danger or for other reasons need to be removed quickly. It was never designed. It
was passed in I think in the early 2000s, the first decade of this century. It was never
supposed to be used like this, right? Robert, you mentioned these people had entered the
United States in 2023, I think.
2022. And then he got a visa, a two year visa to work in 2023. They entered on a tourist visa,
essentially. Yeah, they're not within that two year window, right? To the extent that that matters,
I don't know, right? So they will now, having done nothing wrong in the case of his wife having
attempted to cooperate with their enforcement to stop her husband or anyone with him hurting anyone else, they
will be detained in the Nice detention center and they will have to make a claim of credible
fear, right?
They will have to say, it is dangerous for you to send us back.
I presume their citizenship is Egyptian, so I presume they will be sent there.
That's a very high hurdle for them to clear.
And I mean, I'm sure that there are national immigration nonprofits who are willing to
fight their case because the abuse of expedited removal in the last two years, to be very
clear, by the Biden administration as well, has seriously undermined the due process rights
of migrants.
And this is still a further step and a significant step in removing
those. So I'm gonna follow this case I'm sure I'll update you on it next week. I also just want to
note that like this has dominated a news cycle yesterday 27 people were killed in Gaza attempting
to obtain humanitarian aid right the IDF is still denying that I don't really care that the Red Cross
as well as health authorities in Gaza have confirmed that 27 people were
killed en route to one of the humanitarian or the humanitarian aid distribution point
where they've concentrated it in the southern end of the Gaza Strip.
We will have an episode on Palestine next week.
I don't want one person's kind of stupid action to overshadow the killing of many more people
and that tragic loss of life, right? So I don't think that we won't be covering that we will but we will also
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Let me, let me maybe get out my guacamole. I'm gonna become the choker.
Is that the pivot to the?
Yeah.
Okay.
Yeah, yeah.
Oh God.
Okay.
Let's, let's talk about Taco Trump.
Oh yeah.
I hate the entire world. Finally, finally. Get out your hot sauce. Get out your guac. Oh God, okay, let's let's talk about Taco Trump. Woo! Oh yeah!
I hate the entire world.
Finally, finally!
Get out your hot sauce, get out your guac, let's go!
Taco Trump party!
If you're doing it in full DNC style, pick a slightly racist Mexican costume or something, I guess.
So, many years ago, I was a professional StarCraft II fan.
That makes sense. And this meant that I was exposed to Gungan style a full two weeks before everyone else.
And this was my experience with Taco because I started hearing this from like financial news outlets
and like my friend Vicky was sending me things. They're like, yeah, they came up with this thing.
They're calling it Taco.
And then like four days later all of the like regular news outlets caught up to it I didn't want to say shit. It's sweeping the nation.
Mia liked it before it was cool. So taco is this like unbelievable delusion
that the finance people have had to like like program into their brains in order
to like keep themselves from believing their own eyes about what's happening
with the economy so taco stands forO stands for Trump Always Chickens Out.
And it's these people's belief that Trump will like always inevitably in the end
back down from the terrorists.
And I've been seeing this a lot, right?
Like I've been seeing this from people who are like,
who's analysis I respect, who are talking about how like,
yeah, the structural conditions of the economy are such that Trump will always be
forced to like roll the terrorists back.
And then it's like, okay, like the 50% steel tariff went into effect like today, right? Like I I don't know
I'm gonna get some cumin. I'm gonna get some coriander. We're gonna mix that up
God yo, yo, this is a financial thing, right?
This is the thing that like all the day traders like have to convince themselves in order to keep the stock market
Yeah, yeah.
That like, no, no, no, it's going to be fine.
This is a magic spell that's being like waved over the economy to keep it kind of holding
together.
Yeah, they're like, ooh, it's going to be fine.
Ignore the 30% tariffs on all Chinese goods.
Ignore the tariffs of the year.
Ignore 50% steel tariffs today.
You might say, Mia, these economists are saying, Tarif, we don't like it.
Tarif don't like it.
Rockin' the Casbah.
Rockin' the Casbah.
Tarif don't like it.
Rockin' the Casbah.
Oh, God.
We had to make up for it.
Garrison wouldn't let us last time.
I'm sorry.
I'm sorry.
I know the royalties were getting too much.
I took an entire week's pay cut so that we could pay back the royalty.
Now, the good news is everybody, we did manage to work out a new healthcare plan for everybody.
It is the next time you need to go to a doctor, there will be an unmarked car with a loaded
38 special in the glovebox.
So it is a step up from UnitedHealthcare.
We've actually significantly improved things.
That's true.
And I'm actually taking no pay for a year so we can do a white riot, which is just white
genocide.
It's about the genocide of the of the poor people.
It's surreal.
So, okay, speaking of UnitedHealth, one of these tariffs that all these people have convinced themselves is not going to happen is the
pharmaceutical tariffs which are still like coming, right? But what sort of happened with this taco shit, right, is the Democrats were like, I have found a way to criticize Trump that is racist.
And now they're all just calling him talk-
Like, that also doesn't actually critique his policies, like they're-
No!
They're calling him talk with Trump in relation to like, negotiations with Iran.
Yeah, yeah, shit that he should chicken out of, it's good if he doesn't do it.
Yeah.
Yeah, like, I'm watching them do- like, fucking Chuck Schumer is out here tweeting about how Biden Deported more people than Trump did and like the thing that this reminds me of the most is like the Chavez era of Venezuelan opposition
Where every single year they would haul some dipshit out and their platform was like I'm gonna do
Travies all better than Chavez and every single year they would lose by 40 points
And it's like the Democrats are like those guys those fucking winners
We're going to adopt every single one of his platforms
And then we're gonna run on he's not doing it well enough
And then we're gonna get fucking annihilated in every single election until like the democratic process itself simply ceases to exist and this will
Be good for us somehow
This is just I it's pure cope like the entire
This is just, it's pure cope. Like the entire, our entire economy is being supported by the just collective delusion that these people have built.
But they fucked up, right? And the thing about Taco, and the thing I remember from like the first time I heard about this, it was like,
if this gets out, these people are fucked. Because Trump is going to see this, and it is going to piss him off.
And he's going to like, now that it's like the other kind of thing is like no no
Like the next the next series of tariffs that's got to come off is I'm pretty sure the China one in like the beginning of July
Could have the math wrong. I don't know. I hate math. I'm pretty sure that's the next one
I mean, it's it's this is the thing that I'm still like questioning about and like we talked about this before is like
One of those 30-day deadlines for tariffs on Canada and Mexico expired.
Yeah, he just forgot about that one.
And no one was keeping count or they were like distracted.
I think specifically they were putting in some like European Union like tariffs like that day
and then just nothing like happened. And like I am wondering how much of that is like,
he's just going to announce tariffs, put them on hold and then just forget about them,
but still announce new different tariffs in the future that may cover some
of the same stuff.
Well, so here's the thing.
Here's the thing.
I, some of these, you remember something doesn't because so the steel tariff doubled from 25
to 50.
Yeah, that did happen.
And that was one of the rolling date ones, right?
Yeah.
I think it's like, there are some that he like cares about, and there are some that he kind
of doesn't. I mean, I feel the same way when I'm getting tacos like pork tacos. No, thank you fish tacos
Maybe I don't I don't endorse Gerson's opinion on tacos
This this taco Trump shit is like I long for the days of orange man bad
Drunk was better than this. This is this is the worst it's ever been like oh
God get me get me comedians cutting his head off live on stage again like sure yes that was fine
this is just like what are we doing here oh my god yeah I mean it's really tough
because cilantro prices are gonna spike these tariffs too so I mean we can't
even call them taco it's okay you know Garrett Garrison that's actually just
good politics, right?
Because some people have some people have a disability where they can't test a cilantro
Previous statements I will not be canceled by this. I do not buy the cilantro gene. I don't think it's real
I don't think it's a gene. I don't think people without the. Wait, you don't think the cilantro is real? Oh my god. Okay. Okay.
I don't think it's a gene.
I don't think people without the cilantro taste bad gene.
I don't know if we'd call them people, right?
If it tastes like so cute, I just don't know.
I don't know.
I don't know.
Talks with China have been breaking down.
Both sides have been accusing each other of violating the agreement they had come to to
roll the tariffs back, which they both have.
I believe both sides on that actually
Yeah, and and again this this comes with like the actual fundamental structural problem of this which is that?
And I think this is why a lot of people think that everything will sort of eventually go back to normal and alternatives
Sort of like bluster like it did the first time
Is that like okay again Trump's actual goal here, which is to not have a trade deficit with China is unachievable
Okay, again, Trump's actual goal here, which is to not have a trade deficit with China is unachievable.
Right?
There's nothing that can actually be done in order to do that.
And there's no good way to claim victory either.
And so what we're sort of escalating towards is July, like the 130% tariffs sort of like
coming back into effect.
So people are building up, I think, this like,
I don't know, this sort of like psychological wall
to the fact that this could happen again.
And the fact that these negotiations are breaking down,
I think, is just making it increasingly likely
that it is just going to explode again.
The steel tariffs also are just a shit show
for a whole bunch of different manufacturing sectors.
It's very bad for the US auto industry.
There's already been reports on the effect 25% steel tariff has had on the construction industry.
This has been tied into sort of like, oh yeah, the US is like not replenishing its housing stock because, you know,
but it's fucked. It's real bad.
I don't have a, I don't know, I don't have a better thing to say about it than that.
And that it's going to continue to get worse. And at some points, probably the taco is going to be fucking over
and people are going to realize that he's going to do this. And especially now that he's just pissed him off.
Oh, God.
Yeah, well, what will they do then with their giant inflatable chicken?
Send it to Tehran!
Send it to Tehran!
This is the biggest LibBrain stuff I've ever seen.
I am living in a world where like a group chat that I made on Signal when I was manic last year has had more policy effects on like, like preserving trans health care in that
fucking budget bill than the entire Democratic Party. And they are spending their money fucking
like hauling out chicken, fucking chicken inflatable.
Now, don't don't listen to me a Democrats for just $20 million. I will guarantee you
the youth vote not a guarantee.
I propose that we rename this segment from Tariff Talk to Mia Mole for the next, I don't
know, 20 episodes.
Garrison, as a Canadian, are you allowed to use that word?
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It's me.
What's been going on?
Hey everyone, it's James.
It's Thursday night here and I'm just recording a little pickup to update you that the Trump administration has issued another travel ban.
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or time to edit to address it in full today.
Well, some things have been happening, Garrison,
here in sunny San Diego,
from what I hear, actually great tacos.
Yes, tacos are actually very good in San Diego.
Yes, oh, excellent tacos.
Some of the best tacos in Southern California,
which is saying something.
Yeah, mm-hmm.
Come and visit us, eat our tacos.
Cross the border, get some extended release Mexican tram and all.
Let me know where you are.
Anyway, continue, James.
Or tacos, whatever you want to get across the border.
So Ice Agents raided Buona Forchetta, which is a pizza place in South Park.
I used to stay just above here.
I would get late night pizza there all the time when my job was riding my bike and my hobby was drinking
at Hamilton's RIP, which was a craft beer next door. In this bungled raid, they entered
during the late afternoon, early evening of Friday and ICE agents soon found themselves
surrounded by an angry crowd of local people, patrons from the vegan small plates cocktail
place across the street and
the brewery, it's now South Park Brewing, as well as folks from the neighborhood. This is one of
those neighborhoods that like South Park as a concept was kind of invented by real estate
agents so that it wouldn't seem like Golden Hill or Bankers Hill and it would have like a more
upmarket branding. So you have these very nice bars and restaurants, but then you also have like a laundromat on the
corner and like a, like a food market like a non non chain
supermarket that serves a primarily Latino clientele, I
would imagine. It's one of these very sort of like class diverse
neighborhoods, I guess. When people came out on mass, they
surrounded these vehicles right there were chanting let them go.
ICE and HSI agents decided to defuse the situation by throwing flashbangs
and then leaving with four employees. I should add here that as KPBS put it,
quote, flashbangs were thrown, which is a cowardly use of the passive voice to obscure culpability.
I think flashbangs spontaneously were deployed.
Right. Yeah. Right. Who can say, Garrison?
Maybe the people at the Death Metal Vegan restaurant bought the flashbangs.
Well, and I also do want to say, I have gotten word from some exclusive sources
that these were actually secret militia members masquerading as Ice Ages.
Yeah, let's just fucking address it because it's very silly.
The understandable degree of it is that like...
They are addressing like Proud Boys now.
Look exactly like Proud Boys in Portland in 2019.
Right. Like they are indistinguishable visually.
Their uniform standards have like kind of gone away.
They seem like they don't have standards anymore.
And now they are just dressing like how Proud Boys and 3%ers used to dress.
Yeah. So like I think this this kind of conspiracy theory stems from the initial misidentification
of the ginger ice agent who smashed someone's window as Michael Maier, aka Lewis Arthur,
who's one of the veterans on patrol leaders.
He was live streaming in Oklahoma at the time that that raid happened.
It's not him.
Yeah.
It's just two people who are ginger.
Yeah.
That is possible.
There were lots of them.
Then I've seen this in multiple other cases. Often from the kind of more Lib Sky people
you see on Blue Sky, who seem unable to comprehend the fact that no, they are cops and they are
doing evil shit and cops do evil shit.
Cops can do bad things and now cops are more likely, especially immigration officers,
to not have their names on their kit.
And this is something that we saw in Portland in 2020 and it was incredibly worrying
and now it's spreading all around the entire country
to the point where most people enacting these raids are both hiding their identities
and also obscuring what agencies they are actually from.
Which is why people are like concerned at you,
like what if these guys aren't even from the government?
What if these are just like some kind of right-wing militia?
And with a little bit of checking,
you can usually tell that they are in fact from usually DHS.
Yeah, I mean, the California one was somewhat ridiculous, right?
There is not an exemption to the California Assault Weapons Ban for militias.
These guys had guns which would have been about four felonies each.
Not saying people don't do felony things, they do, but you'd have to be a bit of a tool
to just stand on the street with your felony select fire MPX.
Part of this is a very, and a lot of leftists fell for this too, but this is fundamentally
rooted in a liberal delusion, which is that the danger is unaccountable groups of civilians with guns, not the police. The danger is the
cops. The danger has always been the cops. Yes, we need to push back on this.
The Proud Boys are not like the be-all and end-all of evil. No, are they bad?
Sure, of course. I've had my hand broken by one. I don't like them, but I'm
not as scared of them as they am of just the cops
Like yeah, we need to push back on this because it fundamentally misidentifies the problem and until these people wake up and realize that
They're not gonna respond in the correct manner
Yeah, and I mean like, you know, one of the things that you can point out here is it's like yeah
There were a bunch of police in Nazi Germany and the moment that they started carrying out the orders
of the Nazi government, they became Nazis. Like that's just how this works, right? You
don't get a Polo like, oh, I was just a Weimar police guy just enforcing the laws of the
Nazi government. It's like, okay, you are a Nazi and you are a Nazi because you are
an agent of the Nazi state, not because you were like, you know, you were like necessarily in some paramilitary or whatever.
Like, yeah, a member of the party.
Yeah. Like that's what happens when you work for a fascist state.
So you're now a fascist.
So in documents I've reviewed, I've claimed that 19 employees at a restaurant
were using falsified green cards.
They were acting on a tip from November 2020, and then they received a follow up tip
in late January 2025. They were acting on a tip from November 2020 and then they received a follow-up tip in
late January 2025.
The tip claimed that many of the staff at Buona Foggietta were undocumented, that the
owner made them work long shifts and verbally abused them.
I have seen no evidence that this is true beyond that claim.
I've been to and passed that restaurant hundreds of times.
I've never seen anyone who looks sad to be there, but that doesn't mean that's not happening. But I've seen nothing
to lead me to believe that it is beyond this claim. HSI had been in communication with
Buena Forchetta's lawyers since February and they had been cooperating. Buena Forchetta
had given them these documents, which they claimed were fake green cards. They applied
for this warrant, which they got an fake green cards. They applied for this warrant
which they got an exceedingly broad warrant. One of the things allowed was for everyone inside to
be detained and fingerprinted if necessary, even people who are not accused of any immigration
offence, right, people who are United States citizens. The warrant also detailed that they
had been surveilling the location. City councilman Seanilo Riviera called the HSI agent terrorists in a social media post.
Bill Mulligan got sad about this.
Stephen Miller quote tweeted Bill Mulligan getting sad about this.
TopCloria came out with three paragraphs of total bullshit and continued to unabashedly
support stripping our city of all its socially beneficial services in order to direct a fire hose of our money to the cops,
one of whom earned $430,000 in 2023. Jesus, what?
Yep. Yeah. Yeah. San Diego's highest paid public officials are cops by-
Oh my God. Yeah. We are becoming a police department with a city attached
because of Todd Gloria, someone who ran in 2020 on a reform agenda,
right? Who earns himself 250,000, much less. That's unhinged. That's more than a football coach
makes, which is completely... I thought that the Portland police were paid too much. That's wild.
Yeah. Yeah. This person worked an alleged 3000 hours of overtime, I believe.
It's like what? Sc scrolling TikTok in your car.
Like, come on.
Keeping an eye on kids. Yeah.
Yeah. You can't be 3000 hours.
I mean, someone could do 3000 divided by 50,
52 weeks a year or whatever.
Like it's an unfathomable amount of overtime.
Yeah. It's 58 hours it's an unfathomable amount of overtime. Yeah, it's just 58 hours a week.
Whoa.
Yeah. So that's full time plus one and a half full time jobs.
Hard worker.
It says KPBS article on it.
I'll link it.
Multiple police officers, I guess, in 2024 are on track to earn over
$400,000 with the bulk of it coming from overtime pay.
San Diego is never gets enough attention for being a complete shitshow of the city, right?
Yeah.
And run by the sea is the best way I've heard it described.
Whoa.
Like our city consistently has massive corruption and scandals and nothing happens.
It's a problem when a place is that nice, right?
Yeah, like that's really the fundamental issue is like people be like hey, do you hear about that fucked up thing? The mayor did
Yeah, but like look at the look at the beach
Yeah, that's literally the thesis of under the perfect Sun. Yeah, she said but that should be
Should be obligatory if you want to move to San Diego. I think it's one of the earlier
Mike Davis books. But again, San Diego, a place where the politics are bad. It's also what happens
when everyone votes Dem no matter what, right? Also, people in general, if you want to understand
why Southern California be like a do, read Mike Davis. Yeah, yeah, yeah. In general, just read, just read my Davis actually, wherever
you are, read some Mike Davis. Yep. I seems to have used, I want to get into this, I think
this is an important issue that hasn't been raised in the coverage. I see I seems to have
used AB 60 drivers licenses to identify the people in Buona Fortuna, or at least use California
DMV documents of some kind.
Jesus!
Yeah, so there's this misunderstanding.
People think that if you have a driver's license in California, that information isn't accessible
to immigration, and that's not true.
AB 60 licenses, so that's assembly bill 60, right, California piece of law, allow people
to get a license without having legal immigration status.
This is a good thing. It means that undocumented people are less likely to drive unlicensed and uninsured,
right? And therefore it means that people are likely to stay at the scene of car accidents
and people who get in car accidents are likely to be covered by insurance, right? I've been
hit by an uninsured driver. It fucking sucks.
Oh yeah. DHS cannot access information on whose license is an AB 60 license.
But they can access through a variety of databases and mechanisms, other DMV data,
which may include things like photographs, addresses or thumbprints. So in this case,
they were able to look at the fake green card and then look at other data both in federal and local
databases from various things.
And some of these people had overstayed visas, they're claiming, right?
Be like, okay, well, we found a guy with this name and this date of birth, but the person
hasn't been issued a green card.
That's their claim, right?
And the same with the driver's license database.
And so obviously, just to finish up on that thought, I guess, this disincentivizes people
from doing the thing, which I've just said is good, which is getting a driver's license, I guess this disincentivize people from doing the thing which I've just said it's good
Which is getting a driver's license, right? It disincentivizes
I mean, I'm seeing things from students right now being afraid of going to their own graduation
Being afraid of having their parents at their own graduation, right? This was like two blocks from a school
Fucking chicken. Do not she's on top of the fence. Sorry. Um, it's going to go really the same.
It's going to fucking get out.
Oh, yeah. Please.
Chicken break.
I really, I really, truly thought that that was part of the sentence
and I was trying to process in my brain what the fuck was going on.
That's like, wait, on. I also thought that.
I was like, wait, hold on.
I also thought that, yeah.
All right, we're back.
Let me see.
Did you non-commercial?
Did you pick up the chicken?
Yeah.
Could you say that you were kind of a chicken jockey?
No.
Everyone, no, no.
Just another 30 seconds of silence everybody.
Let's really give that its due.
Has anyone got a gong that we could play?
No, no.
All right.
Pouring one out for Garrison.
So to finish up, right now both Bonaforte Jetta locations are closed.
A GoFundMe for the impacted employees and their families has already hit
twice its goal, $120,000.
As I've said, there have been suggestions, which as far as I'm aware,
were unfounded that a restaurant forced a documented employees to work long hours.
It doesn't matter, right?
Even if they did, you shouldn't be punishing the people who are
being in theory abused, right?
I don't understand how you get to that logic.
And even if that is the case, like having ICE available
on call to deport your employees only plays
into the hands of abusive bosses
who don't want to pay people, right?
They can just call ICE instead.
This is a tactic that's been used
for decades against migrants.
So yeah, that's all I got.
Good times, good times in San Diego.
Yeah. Yeah, we're going to times. Good times in San Diego. Yeah.
Yeah, we're going to talk about this more in another episode. There was also a rage
in Minneapolis that, you know, there's like 30 agents out, multi-agency raid, and like
100 people just showed up and got them to fuck off.
And they didn't end up arresting anybody.
Yeah, I think, well, so I think they arrested some of the protesters, but like they didn't
end up detaining any of the people.
They did not detain the people they were going after.
They stopped them.
Yeah, and there's this great line that fucking every single person from Minneapolis, who I know now, is quoting where one of the people who got interviewed in Sahan Journal said,
That's Minneapolis, baby, we pull up. So you too could pull up and stop these fucking rages.
That's right.
You see poor cowards, you can stop them.
Now speaking of incredible cowardice, one of the things that's been happening on another
immigration front is the US's attempt to revoke student visas for Chinese international students.
We don't actually know what this means yet and what it's going to look like.
All they've said is that they're working to rev- aggressively to revoke visas,
that's a direct quote from them,
and this is, this is from Marco Rubio on fucking whatever social media app.
And he also said, quote,
we will revise visa criteria to enhance scrutiny
of all future visa applications from the peoples of the Republic of China and Hong Kong.
So, uh, fucking rip all of the Hong Kong liberals who supported Trump
Yeah
Bad shit. Yeah, no one knows exactly what this is going to mean
I've seen speculation that this could be a full ban. I that's what Stephen Miller has wanted for a long time
I don't know if that's going to happen. They've been talking about like what unquote critical fields like stem stuff
that's going to happen they've been talking about like quote-unquote critical fields like STEM stuff it could also be a you know the specific language they're
using is like anyone who's linked to the Communist Party that's a lot.
What's that mean? Yeah who the fuck knows right like you know like there's some of
these people are the kids of like Chinese Communist Party members but like
there are that's like seven percent of the population of China right like
that's a lot of people and then linked can be fucking anything right? Like yeah, you know
So no one is entirely sure what this means yet
I my guess is that it's going to be combined with the other horrible thing. I'm doing right now. What's that? They suspended?
visits like consular visits to get student visas while they try to figure out how to like
do this like implement this new social media policy where they want to just effectively
what it looks like they want to do is just like if you've posted about Palestine they
deny your student visa that seems like the thing that they're trying to put in place
yet they haven't yet my guess is that these two are going to end up being linked and they're
going to and that that's going to be what they're doing it could also just be some sort
of large scale rollback of student visas for Chinese international students here. Chinese
international students have been targeted under so many goddamn administrations now.
It's fucking horrible. These are just like people. It's interesting because when you
read media accounts of this, a lot of them will be like, well, people aren't that like
we're not that scared. That's okay. It's like, well, no, you, you are talking to the people who are stupid enough to
talk to an American journalist, right? Most people just say no, because they're genuine.
This is like creating an atmosphere of fucking terror where people don't want to,
people don't want to speak out about it. And this, and this has been something that's been used to,
like, write grad student unions, um, you know, like over the years, this has been a kind of
repression. It's very useful. This is also, I think, part of their, of just the broader war against higher education because
a lot of Chinese international students, like, come in on full tuition, so they're paying
for a large percentage of, like, a bunch of university budgets.
But yeah, we will, we will, we will keep you informed as to what this actually looks like.
That's what we know about it for now.
It fucking sucks.
Let's end with some semi-good news, I guess.
We will return into my horribly named segment, Stinky Musk.
Oh, God.
Hey, this is Gare from the future, just cutting in here at the beginning
because, oh boy, in the 24 hours after we recorded this initial segment,
there has been substantial developments in the Elon Musk Donald Trump breakup story.
It is getting quite ugly out there, folks. The girls are fighting, Diva down, JD Vance
is hiding in the closet as the parents are screaming down the hallway. It is getting
quite ugly. Trump's gotten rid of the electric vehicle mandate and is threatening to terminate Elon's government subsidies and contracts. Meanwhile, Elon Musk
is talking about how Donald Trump is in the Epstein files. Like, duh, like we don't already
know this. But for some reason, this is blowing the minds of people like Alex Jones, who are
now crashing out on the timeline. Huge, huge shakeups in the mega world. We're
some people trying to cope, claiming that this is a 5D chess move and that Elon and
Trump are going to come back together in the end, which is completely absurd. This is a
huge, a huge shift in the power balance in the new right. We will be doing a whole new
piece in the near future on the Elon Musk Donald Trump breakup story and how it will affect the Republican Party.
But the following segment, which we recorded on Wednesday, will essentially outline how
we got right up to this point.
All of these slow microaggressions and fractures that led to this much more explosive breakup.
So enjoy that and keep your ears peeled for a future piece on Elon Musk and
Donald Trump's messy situationship. So, Elon Musk and Donald Trump are now officially in
their messy breakup phase, where they're both trying to kind of play it cool, but resentment
is clearly bubbling. So, after reports surfaced about the growing rift between Musk and Trump, the White House gave Musk one last farewell hurrah on Friday, May 30th, where Musk, sporting a black eye and
a t-shirt reading The Dogefather, was gifted a gold key to the White House by Donald Trump.
A day later, Trump withdrew the nomination of Musk ally Jared Isaacman as NASA administrator.
So as Musk's special government employee designation
expired, nothing was renewed. They did not try to push him through as a more permanent
advisor. He is essentially getting the soft boot. According to Axios, Musk had asked the
White House about staying on as an advisor past the 130-day special government employee threshold, but that was denied.
Musk has been reportedly disillusioned by the Wisconsin election and the unexpected
difficulty in pushing through some of his Doge cuts, along with the growing frustration
regarding the Liberation Day tariffs, which affect his businesses.
To add to the tension, according to the New York Times, Musk has been upset
that Trump has been negotiating deals with OpenAI instead of Musk's own competitor,
Grok.
God.
Yeah.
In late May, Musk posted on X, the Everything app, quote, back to spending 24-7 at work.
I must be super focused on X slash XAI and Tesla.
Well, to be fair, Garrison, have you seen Chair GPT ever speak in this
style of Jar Jar Binks in such a convincing...
You know, that is true.
It's that USP right there.
Yeah.
Not, not well talking about the plight of the Boers.
Um, so as Musk was preparing to exit the White House, he
began airing his beef with the new big beautiful budget bill. Quote, I think a
bill can be big or it can be beautiful but I don't know if it can be both.
Telling CBS News, quote, I was disappointed to see the massive spending bill, frankly
which increases the budget deficit not just decreases it and undermines the
work that the Doge team is doing."
After this, Stephen Miller started subtweeting Musk on X, the Everything app, outlining the
different types of cuts that Doge can make versus reconciliation bills can make. And defendant the
big beautiful bill calling it, quote, the single largest welfare reform in American history, along with the largest tax cut reform in American history, the most aggressive energy
expiration in American history, and the strongest border bill in American history, all while
reducing the deficit, unquote, which it does not, it does not reduce the deficit.
But now that Musk's White House exit has been more solidified, Musk's animosity towards
Trump's main policy bill has just skyrocketed, posting on June 3rd on X, the everything app,
I'm sorry, but I just can't stand it anymore.
This massive, outrageous, pork-filled congressional spending bill is a disgusting abomination.
Shame on those who voted for it.
You know you did wrong.
You know it. You know you did wrong. You know it.
Similarly,
Stephen Miller has also been crashing out on the timeline,
attempting to defend the bill and push back on Musk's attacks in a flurry of tweets, one of which reads,
The big beautiful budget bill will increase
by orders of magnitude of the
scope scale and speed of removing illegal and criminal aliens from the
United States for that reason alone is the most essential piece of legislation
currently under construction in the entire Western world in generations. Wow.
Now Stephen seems pretty worked up and I think this could actually have to do not
not just about Musk's
tweets, but also maybe about Stephen's own personal life. Because Stephen's animosity
could relate to the fact that Musk seems to be stealing Stephen Miller's own wife, Katie
Miller. Katie Miller was working in a top position at Doge as a special government employee.
And now that her designation has also expired, she is leaving the government
to continue working with Musk full-time,
including arranging Musk's own interview appearances.
It is not looking great, folks. The cock chair is getting warmed.
Um, I am not thrilled about Elon Musk possibly having a baby with Stephen Miller's wife.
This is really dark timeline stuff.
I think all of them should be doing better.
Different?
Different.
I certainly can critique the way polyamory functions in, you know, leftist anarchist
spaces.
This is the most toxic thrumple I've ever seen before.
This is by far the worst.
This is a night of wrong wives too and
hopefully it ends up for all of these motherfuckers like it did for Heimbach
so fuck him Stephen Miller went on TV last week to like talk about how much he cares
about his family it's such it's such good timing it's really dark for him yeah if
you marry Stephen Miller it's because you because you're both the same kind of evil.
And if that's the kind of person you are,
Elon Musk is going to give you more opportunities
to be the kind of evil you wanna be.
It's amazing, right?
It's just obvious.
Like this is big.
I can't just tell if Musk is an upgrade
or a lateral move from Stephen Miller.
It's really tough to say.
Yeah. Oh, God.
This is very funny.
But yeah, this is one of the last bits in the White House Elon Musk saga. He really
tried to push forward this doged, retire all government employees agenda. And it ran into
way more roadblocks than what he was expecting. And he seems really upset about that. And
now he has to return to the private sector to save his failing businesses which have only started to fail more now that he damaged an already kind of
a troubling reputation the past few months.
Yeah.
So, yeah, that is the update on Elon Musk.
Awesome.
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