It Could Happen Here - Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #25
Episode Date: July 18, 2025The gang talks about how Trump is totally 100% NOT in the Epstein files, as well as updates on immigration, tariffs, and sadly Elon Musk’s Grok AI :( Sources/Links: https://www.gofundme.co...m/f/urgent-help-for-bukets-asylum-case https://www.the-independent.com/bulletin/news/trump-uncle-unabomber-pennsylvania-speech-b2789762.html https://www.mediamatters.org/charlie-kirk/charlie-kirk-im-done-talking-about-epstein-time-being-im-gonna-trust-my-friends https://x.com/WIRED/status/1945207066634657854 https://cw39.com/crime/former-us-marine-corps-reservist-charged-in-texas-immigration-detention-center-shooting/ https://www.aclu.org/press-releases/federal-court-blocks-trump-birthright-citizenship-order-certifies-nationwide-class-protecting-all-impacted-babies https://x.com/jeremyphoward/status/1943444549696917714 https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c628d9mre3go https://strangematters.coop/supply-chain-theory-of-inflation/ https://x.com/TriciaOhio/status/1945274627976200206 https://www.facebook.com/TimesofEswatini/ https://thedawn.com.ss/2025/07/10/govt-places-8-u-s-deportees-behind-bars-in-juba/ https://www.politico.com/news/2025/07/11/homan-says-white-house-hopes-to-forge-more-third-country-deals-in-wake-of-south-sudan-deportations-00448137 https://www.americanimmigrationcouncil.org/blog/legislators-immigration-reform-reintroduced-dignidad-act/ https://archive.ph/DdUIR https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/15/politics/department-of-education-trump-dismantle-explainer https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/14/politics/supreme-court-firings-education https://www.politico.com/news/2025/07/16/trump-tariffs-small-countries-00456401 https://www.ft.com/content/65b1fb44-6391-4f74-82db-2d7eb6aaafa9 https://www.theguardian.com/world/2025/jul/16/trump-brazil-tariffs-ultimatum-backfires-bolsonaro-lula https://www.cnn.com/2025/07/15/economy/trump-says-trade-deal-with-indonesia https://www.spokesman.com/stories/2025/jul/15/spokane-ice-protesters-including-stuckart-arrested/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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This is It Could Happen Here, Executive Disorder, our weekly newscast covering what's happening in
the White House, the crumbling world, and what it means for you. I'm Garrison Davis. Today I'm joined by Mia Wong, James
Stout and Robert Evans. Yes. This episode we are covering the week of July 9 to July
16. What's going on my boys? And in some cases, gals. And in some cases, days or it's or whatever and the answer for everyone is Edie. Mm-hmm
Hooray in some cases
my gals, I
Guess let's start by
Talking about Jeffrey Epstein. Oh as we always do
Jepstein, uh, yeah, you know what you garrison you I hear you've got some bars to drop about Epstein
You know what, Garrison, I hear you've got some bars to drop about Epstein. Jesus.
All right, well, that's my work for the day.
Brief summary.
Previously on this show, we talked about how Patel and Bongino, the head of the FBI, have
previously come under fire from micro-supporters for saying that Epstein really did kill himself.
And this has kind of been bubbling in the base for a while because they use this as one of their main like campaign and podcast talking points for the past four years.
Bongino was a huge Epstein truther guy.
I mean, and like Patel's like the QAnon guy.
Like both these guys have made their careers
the past four years like heavily about this topic.
And now they're, you know, backtracking on a whole bunch of the previous, you know, claims
or, you know, just asking questions type stuff that they did the past few years.
And like a week and a half ago, a memo from the Department of Justice announced that it
was closing the investigation and claiming that there was no client list for Jeffrey Epstein, despite Pam Bondi herself
boasting about having Epstein's client list on her desk only a few months ago.
This caused a huge freakout in the maker world.
There was conflicting reports that Bondi or Patel or Bongino might be resigning, like in protest of this memo.
A lot of like uncertainty over like what was real.
And then on July 12th, Trump had to speak his own truth social.
Quote, what's going on with my boys and in some cases, gals.
They're all going after Attorney General Pam Bondi, who's doing a fantastic job. We're on one team, a mega, and I don't like what's happening.
We have a perfect administration, the talk of the world, and selfish people are trying to hurt it.
All over a guy who never dies, Jeffrey Epstein. For years, it's Epstein, over and over again.
Why are we giving publicity to files written by Obama, Crooked Hillary, Comey, Brennan,
and the losers and criminals of the Biden administration who conned the world with the
Russia Russia Russia hoax, 51 intelligence agents, and the laptop from hell, all caps.
They created the Epstein files just like they created the fake Hillary Clinton
Christopher Steele dossier that they used on me. And now my so-called friends, in quotes, are playing right into their hands.
So this was right after claiming that the Epstein files did not exist, that these things are not actually real.
And then Trump's talking about how they are real, but they are in fact
written by his enemies, despite the most recent investigation into Jeffrey Epstein, starting in 2019,
when, if you remember,
Donald Trump was the president.
Well, Garrison, the defining political question
of the modern era is who was president in 2020,
so I can see it moving back.
This is the thing!
There's no answer to this question, you know?
We just can't, we don't know.
We will never know.
There's no way to prove it.
Our records don't reach back that far.
We just simply can't say who president was. The mists of time have shaded over.
So much of modern domestic politics is about confusion over who was president in 2019 and 2020.
When it was Donald Trump, he ends by saying, quote, let's not waste time and energy on Jeffrey Epstein, somebody nobody cares about.
That's so far gone you do he sounds scared because he never fully understood this stuff
Like there's things that he understands instinctually and there's things that he never really got and because he was Epstein's friend
He never really got why this was so central.
He kind of got that it was, but he also kind of assumed like, well, if I tell everyone to shut the fuck up, they will.
They're gonna fuck up. Yeah. Yeah.
Because that's how he's done things the past like 12 years and it's more often than not worked really well for him.
But this has become such a load-bearing aspect of like the mega self-image.
Like this is like, you know, this type of stuff is what drove QAnon, essentially like a cult.
Yeah.
And he never fully understood why QAnon was really a thing.
He never truly grasped it.
That's why he never really...
He started more recently doing some QAnon signposting,
but yeah, he clearly never fully got why it was happening.
Yeah.
Like, it was happening. Yeah, like it was convenient.
And now the monster that he and his, you know, quote unquote friends have helped
create all these years is starting to nibble on his own leg.
Yeah. This past weekend, influencers like Tim Pool, Benny Johnson and Charlie Kirk
all started to kind of turn on Trump on a play going to play a quick video from disgraced Buzzfeed
writer Benny Johnson, now right wing podcaster.
By admitting that the Epstein files are real and have been written and that you've read
them and you don't like their contents and they were written by your enemies, doesn't make the most compelling case as far as I'm concerned.
Holy moly.
Holy moly.
Holy moly.
You heard it here first.
There was a lot of this stuff over the weekend.
Like this whole podcasting cohort, which so many people credit to Trump's
great success in 2024, all started asking questions and were kind of confused. I don't
know why they would be. It's been very well documented that Trump was friends with Epstein
for a long time. But this time, this thing finally broke containment. And when you have
like fucking Charlie Kirk, someone who's basically like one of the GOP's like top narrative shepherds essentially, and when you have him like questioning
the president's own story and credibility, that's like a pretty big shakeup in the mega
world.
Yeah, it's not really explicable. There's no plausible deniability.
Yeah, I think for a long time this has been like the load-bearing
cognitive dissonance for this entire movement and I actually do think when Elon first was just like he's in the files I think that was the first moment that all these people were suddenly allowed to do this. That was the first domino
Definitely. Yeah, he cracked the shell on it and I think that has like torn open this rift
Yeah Yes, shall on it and I think that has like torn open this rift Yeah, that has allowed all of these people who previously their cognitive dissonance has sustained them through a decade of
Yeah
Our dear rulers obviously friends with the pedophile like I'll say it critical support
Let them fight. Let them fight. So the next move that the geniuses of the Trump administration tried to pull to settle
things down was release the raw footage, the missing raw footage outside Jeffrey Epstein's
cell to finally close the book on this Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself moment.
And they released it and everyone realized, you know what, they're right.
There's nothing more to look into here, case closed.
No problem.
We all rose up as if with one voice to say,
this doesn't seem suspicious.
So, Wired found that this quote unquote raw video
was actually edited and had it nearly three minutes removed.
Sure. Yeah, but look, doesn't Jeffrey Upstein deserve some privacy, you know, three minutes on his
own?
This is a really personal decision for somebody to take.
Yeah, exactly.
So no, after claiming that like they've released this completely, you know, ripped straight
from the hard drive raw footage, it showed that it was edited in Adobe Premiere and has these missing missing three minutes
Pam bondi initially tried to say that there's usually a minute missing from footage because of a computer
Reset that happens every night at the same time
Which was that immediately proven incorrect by?
Way more than one minute missing. Yeah, three minutes. I'm sorry. They simply like I came into this is like I don't know what happened
You know, maybe he killed himself. Maybe I don't know what happened in that jail cell. I
And now I'm now I'm I am sincerely more on the well something there's something there height
Yeah, I will say there's something there, Heidi.
I will say, there's one thing that I think this does definitively rule out, which is
that it was definitely not the Clinton crime family.
We've ruled out one possible person.
Now, you see, this brings me to a theory that I have been working on for the last couple
of days.
And I think this is really important to get out to people. So obviously,
the other big statement that Donald Trump made in the last week was that his uncle,
who used to be a professor at MIT, had taught Ted Kaczynski and talked to him about Ted
Kaczynski and been like, yeah, you know, there's a real thin line between genius and insanity.
And then it came out that Donald Trump's uncle who taught at MIT died in 1985. And of course the Unabomber was not publicly identified
until 1996.
Now some people have interpreted this as Donald Trump lying,
which I think we can all agree
doesn't seem like something he would do.
So the only other explanation is that Trump and his family
knew who the Unabomber was for more than a decade
and kept it hidden from the rest of the United States.
Now, what does the Unabomber and Donald Trump have in common?
Obviously, two people who were treated very unfairly by the Clintons, right?
I think we can all agree on that, you know? So it all ties together.
Both are possibly victims of MKUltra.
That's right.
Yeah.
No, the- the- the- His little Tuesday speech in Pittsburgh was- was quite bizarre.
Uh, not just that.
Kaczynski never went to MIT.
Uh...
Yeah.
It's gonna say, to my knowledge, non-alumni.
Yeah.
Did not go to the- to the university, uh, that Dr. John Trump was at.
I will say, this- this is the first one of these stories that this genuinely sounds like
an Alex Jones story. Like, this is the kind one of these stories that this genuinely sounds like an Alex
Jones story. Like this is the kind of story that Alex Jones tells about his uncles all the time.
Yeah, they ain't they ain't talking to Alex Jones right now.
But it's like persona non-graduate in the White House currently.
It is a truly bizarre ramble.
I have to take it. I have to brag just for a second because when I first heard about AI,
you know, it's not my thing.
Although my uncle was at MIT, one of the great professors, 51 years, whatever, he was the
longest serving professor in the history of MIT, three degrees in nuclear, chemical and
math.
Nuclear.
That's a smart man.
Kaczynski was one of his students.
Do you know who Kaczynski was one of his students, do you know who Kaczynski
was? There's very little difference between a madman and a genius, but Kaczynski said,
what kind of a student was he, Uncle John, Dr. John Trump? He said, what kind of a student?
Then he said, seriously good. He said he'd go around correcting everybody, but it didn't
work out too well for him. Didn't work out too well, but it's interesting.
Didn't work out too well for him.
It sure didn't.
To be fair, he never gives a first name.
It could have been another Kaczynski.
It could be a different Kaczynski.
This is true, James.
Yeah, yeah.
People are not interested.
Also, God, that whole thing, just the undergrad who goes around correcting everyone many cases. Yeah
But back to Epstein the thing that Trump doesn't want us to talking about. That's right by Monday
Some of this like influencer podcasting class
Started to kind of close ranks the The skepticism and frustration that they expressed
over the weekend subsided and they started to repeat the party line. Charlie Kirk said
on his show, quote, plenty was said this last weekend at our event about Epstein. Honestly,
I'm done talking about Epstein for the time being. I'm going to trust my friends in the
administration. I'm going to trust my friends in the government to do what needs to be done, solve it, balls in their hands. I've said plenty this
last weekend, so if you guys want to see my commentary on it, that's fine. Everyone knows
my opinion on the Epstein thing, the messaging fumble. I would love to see the DOJ move to
unseal the grand jury testimony." Unquote. The messaging fumble.
The biggest problem with Jeffrey Epstein has been the messaging fumble.
Nausea. Decades of horrific sex crimes tied to the president of the United States.
Also, I love that he's trying to trust the plan people with like the thing that
trust the plan is about revealing. This is yeah yeah yeah yeah just keep trusting it I do want to say that I
because I hate myself I listened to Sean Ryan's podcast interview with Gavin
Newsome which yeah I don't suggest it is four hours if you're wondering so it
never get pissed off about our episodes going long again, please.
Lots of interesting stuff. Trump has lost Sean Ryan. Like he is not toeing the line on this Epstein stuff. He's clearly pissed about it. And like Ryan is a sizable influence on the right.
He has about 5 million YouTube subscribers, right? He's one of the top 10 podcasts on Spotify.
He's interviewed Trump on his podcast. Like when Trump did his podcast offensive before the 2024 election, Ryan was one of
the places he went.
And it seems like Ryan is not on the RNC paid poster list because he seemed more critical
of Trump than Gavin Newsom was in that interview, weirdly, specifically about the Epstein stuff, which it was kind of remarkable to me. And I think we should note that he
has a significant influence on a certain type of people.
Someone who certainly does appear to be on the RNC paid list is documentary filmmaker
Dinesh D'Souza. I'm going to talk about the Epstein files and I'm going to make the case that even though
there are unanswered questions about Epstein, it is in fact time to move on.
Very convincing.
Well, sounds good.
Luckily, there's nobody with a firearm out of shot in that video, so I'm sure it's fine.
Case closed.
Yep. Seems good to me.
In another move for transparency, on Tuesday, Republicans unanimously voted to block the release of the Epstein files.
Benny Johnson interviewed Speaker of the House Mike Johnson about how they kind of want to
handle this and they're trying to make this argument that they want to be transparent
but they have to make sure that they protect the victims and that's why they can't release
the files.
Sure, yeah, protect victims.
Republican Party.
Compelling, compelling stuff.
Part of what makes this super weird is like Trump just keeps giving the just the most
bizarre, most like I'm totally not guilty comments in media.
And something he said on Tuesday, I found to be quite interesting, not because of what
he actually said, but because of how he said it.
See if see if see if you can catch this.
Specifically, did she tell you at all that your name appeared in the fight? this. They were made up by the Biden, you know, and we went through years of that with the Russia
Russia Russia hoax with all of the different things that we had to go through
We've gone through years of it, but she's handled it very well
Very convincing stuff. You can see Caroline Levitt just like just like being right, right
First time I've heard Trump Trump stutter like this before.
And Trump's whole idea of reality is if you speak it enough, that becomes true.
You can literally bend the concept of truth, you can bend reality using your words.
And this is why he talks about being a winner.
This is why he only surrounds himself with people who are winners.
He thinks that reality is this malleable thing that you affect through asserting your
own will.
And he's done this super successfully, especially throughout his career in politics.
You know, he's a mixed record of it in his business, business era, but certainly in his
political, but certainly through his political career, he's done this fairly well.
This is why almost half the country believes that the last election was stolen. It was just because he said it enough.
This is the first time I've heard him break
while trying to speak reality into being.
Like he literally could not get himself to do it cleanly.
And that is notable to me.
He's made a series of truths later that day,
talking about how quote,
my past supporters have bought into this bullshit hook, line, and sinker.
Oh shit.
Very good. And he's now moved to call the Jeffrey Epstein story the Epstein hoax.
Jesus Christ.
He had an Oval Office press conference Wednesday morning., quote, I call it the Epstein hoax.
They're talking about a guy who died three, four years ago.
And the sad part is, is people are doing a Democrat's work.
They are stupid people.
Oh.
I don't think that's the sad part about what happened with Jeffrey Epstein.
I think there are other sad things related to his conduct.
A man is dead.
You know? I think the other, I think the thing that is like very alarming
about this, though, that I think is very dangerous about this entire situation,
a lot of this on the right has always been sort of motivated by antisemitism.
Yeah. Well. And I think we are going, like we are already seeing some shit.
It's funny you say that Mia. Yeah
Because it's talk about anti-semites another voice has joined the call to release the files
Oh God for her says to be straight
Resident although made a series of I will say shocking statements over the weekend
They're not that shocking if you've been familiar with some of the court cases against Elmo
over the last couple of years.
I know Larry David attacked Elmo a few years ago.
Yeah, and he had good reason to.
He probably saw this coming.
Uh-huh, yeah.
As-
I've been saying this for years.
As a Jewish man, I think he saw through Elmo's schtick
and knew the anti-Semitism at the heart of Elmo
that was being suppressed.
That he was a dangerous Nazi.
But yeah, Elmo made some shocking tweets, just, you know, very similar to like what
happened to Kanye a few years ago.
Similar figures, you know, they both kind of come out of the same chunks of like
American hip hop culture.
You know, it's not super surprising.
And I think they were both close for a long like a number of years before either man's career blew up.
But yes very anti-semitic statements also calling for the release of the Epstein files.
Yeah.
Elmo has since backtracked, hired a PR team it seems, has scrubbed the tweets, handling the backlash a little bit better than Kanye did.
But still it's going to be hard to look past this as Elmo attempts to continue
Elmo's career.
Especially since Elmo is now running for president
with Nick Fuentes as campaign manager.
I did not hear this.
Just an inadvisable, yeah, yeah.
That is upsetting.
He's quote, swears it's not a Nazi thing.
But yeah, a lot of debate about that.
I will reach out to Bert and Ernie for comment.
Um, there's a whole bunch of replies to Elmo's tweet calling for Elmo to resign.
I said if Elmo is a real person and B genuinely believes this shit.
Yeah.
I'm going to quote one.
It's just too good.
Resign.
You posted the most vile hate speech since the latest Tucker Carlson podcast saying what you did about Jews is Nazi star
Rhetoric and you should be out of a job at the very least fire Elmo
Hashtag fire on everybody. Yeah, get it trending
In genuine all seriousness, though
I think it is really alarming that a lot of the like on the right the way that like a lot of this resistance is
I think it is really alarming that a lot of the like on the right the way that like a lot of this resistance is
crystallizing the Trump over this is just the like oh they're like this is like
Epstein was a massage agent Trump is a massage agent. Yeah, right. It's all just pure It's pure anti-semitism the Jews are blackmailing US politicians with you know child porn
Yeah, and I think there's there's two angles on this one in the very short term, it's obviously very good that Trump is losing support.
However, comma, if and when we defeat Trump, we are going to have to pivot and smash these people so fucking hard
that they never reappear again because
this could get
really, really fucking bad very quickly. And I don't think, I don't know,
we've covered this on the show, right? We're like, Really really fucking bad very quickly and I don't I don't think I don't know
We've covered this on the show right? We're like
all discourse by anti-semitism has been turned into yelling at like
Mom Donnie for something he didn't say and then meanwhile like the Elmillo account is being hacked by like just
Literally a guy saying kill all Jews right now
And that's just like a bubbling massive undercurrents of the US now in politics
that is going to have a bunch of profound impacts that we fucking don't understand yet
and we have to like deal with eventually.
Yeah, no, this is the unfortunate reality is that anti-Semitism is turning into a block
that could potentially swing an election one way or the other.
And it's not a block that's necessarily locked into left or right.
It's left into whoever's going to play to those delusions, you know?
And the fact that we're as deep in the weeds as we are right now with a right-wing fascist
movement does not mean that there could not be a left-wing authoritarian movement that
clings to anti-Semitism as a way to gain power.
It's happened
in the world before. It's not something the left is immune from. It's obviously not the top of my
threat model, right? I would not say this is the thing to focus on, but it's something, again,
to be aware of is that the fact that this... I think what you need to keep in mind
when you're trying to parse out the future,
think of how weird it is that some of the figures
who wound up aligned with Trump
are aligned with Trump right now,
how a lot of folks who you would have
during like the Bush years, like the W's years,
you would have put on the left,
or at least as like kind of contra to the Christian right,
and who have now completely like dove into
that side of things.
Even like RFK Jr. in some ways.
Even RFK Jr. shit can shift that rapidly again and it will one way in some ways, right?
Like there are ways in which this is inevitable and that's why you need to be on the lookout
about stuff like this.
You have to keep your head on a fucking swivel.
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And now we're going to talk about immigration, a topic which is always fun and only good
things happen.
So to begin with, today we're recording on the 16th, the Trump administration has begun
renditioning people to Eswatini, Eswatini, small landlocked country in Africa, people
are not familiar, Africa's last absolute monarchy.
This follows their rendition of 8 people to
South Sudan. The South Sudanese press is reporting that those men are in prison in South Sudan,
which contradicts Tom Homan's statement to Politico that, quote, when we sign these agreements
with all these countries, we make arrangements to make sure these countries are receiving
these people and there's opportunities for these people. But I can't tell if we remove somebody to Sudan.
They can stay there, we can leave.
I don't know.
Homan has said in other outlets that he believes they were just kind of free in South Sudan,
that they were just released to wander around.
That does not seem to be the case.
Jesus.
The Eswatini people, Trisha McLaughlin, who's a, I think a Deputy Secretary of Homeland
Security, called the people sent to Eswatini, quote, uniquely barbaric.
Oh boy.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She used a thread on x.com.
The different thing I have to announce.
Yes.
You can find all kinds of stuff on there.
Say it that way.
She did not name the men in her thread, but she did list their convictions.
Most of these were sex crimes, children and various types of murder, homicide, manslaughter.
This has caused widespread concern in Aswatini, the idea that the US is just sending random
people who have been convicted of crimes to Aswatini.
In a statement, the government said, quote, Five inmates are currently housed in our correctional
facilities in isolated units where similar offenders are kept.
The nation is assured that these inmates pose no threat to the country or its citizens.
Statement given by government spokesman Fabeli Mudluli went on, quote, This exercise is a
result of months of robust high-level engagements among the United States government.
The two governments will collaborate with the International Organization for Migration to facilitate the transit of these inmates to their countries of origin."
So this seems to suggest that A, this has been planned for months, which is not a particular surprise, right?
The US government has clearly been pushing for these like third country renditions
for a while. But also that like this is a potential end run around things like the Convention
against Torture, withholding of removal, right, like either people whose governments won't
accept them back from the US, or people who have withholding of removal because they have
a reasonable fear of being tortured or of harm coming to them if they're sent back to their countries of origin
are I guess going to be sent back via Eswatini is what it seems like.
So this is pretty troubling. It seems to suggest that essentially that's what the US is doing.
We're not quite clear how much the US has paid Eswatini yet. They paid a hundred thousand
for one person to be sent to
Rwanda. We still don't know where that person is. We don't know exactly how much they paid to South
Sudan. They have requested a number of other countries, lots of them in West Africa, to accept
people via this rendition process. We're going to talk about it on the whole episode that we have
coming out next Tuesday, if you're interested to hear more about that. Another piece of legislation that
I wanted to cover, just because I've seen it getting a lot of attention and I think it kind of
bears mentioning, a bipartisan group of legislators has introduced legislation to fundamentally
reform the immigration system. It's called the Dignity or Dignidad Act and it has about as much chance
of success as a chocolate teapot. It's co-sponsored by Republican Maria Salazar, she's from Florida,
and Democrat Veronica Escobar from El Paso, Texas. Salazar in an interview today with
NewsNation said, quote, there is no other president like Trump. I have faith that he
could be for immigration. what Lincoln was for slavery and
Reagan was for communism. Just watch him. Jesus Christ
Yeah, I mean it I
Guess one could make some eye against about like some of the abolitionists just wanting to send folks off back to Africa, right?
But I don't think that that's what most people understand to be Lincoln's legacy for slavery. I mean, he could definitely be like Reagan.
Yeah.
Give her that one.
Yeah.
The big problem with this pizza legislation, which Sanonzara has tried to introduce before,
right, she tried it in 2023 as well, is that it relies on people coming forward to admit
that they have no legal status and being offered a quote dignity status, which is somewhat
analogous to permanent residency with, but without a pathway to citizenship. It creates a permanent underclass. It relies on people trusting immigration authorities,
and that's not going to happen now. There is no way in hell that people are going to come forward
and say, yes, I'm undocumented after what we've seen for the last six months, right?
People didn't trust these authorities before, but after what we've seen in the last six months, right? Like, people didn't trust these authorities before, but like after what we've seen in the last six months, it's completely implausible. It's ludicrous.
They don't want people coming forward with that stuff. That's like the whole point of
scaring them away is to make them basically not able to function in this country.
Yes, exactly. They don't want to give people safe status.
Make living in this country like as impossible as possible.
Yeah. They have undermined the trust that allows them to do what is supposed to be the
core of their job, just to get deportation numbers up, to get detention numbers up. This
is just a fluffer thing. It's people in the House of Representatives trying to boost their
re-election chances by saying that they tried to do something different, right? It's not
seriously going to succeed. No way.
Finally, a Canadian judge has halted the deportation of a non-binary person back to the USA,
citing conditions here. Quoting here, the officer failed to consider recent evidence of the conditions
that may have supported a reasonable fear of persecution, said Judge Julie Blackhawk, first Indigenous woman appointed to a Canadian federal court. It seems that Angel Jenkel entered
Canada as a visitor and that they're now engaged to a Canadian person. I'm guessing that they
overstayed their visitor slash tourist, that you probably can get a visa waiver if you're a U.S.
citizen to enter Canada and they probably overstayed that. They requested
a risk assessment before being deported to the USA and the ruling suggests that the immigration
official who conducted it had used outdated information regarding the safety of LGBTQIA
people in the USA. So yeah, that's where things are at now. I'm aware of people also trans and non-binary people from the U.S. seeking asylum in Mexico.
It was a year ago that trans people were coming here to be safe and now people
are moving in the other direction, which is a pretty, pretty damning combination
of how things have gone in this country.
Yeah.
That's all the exciting, fun immigration news I have this week.
That really sucks. Yeah. Yeah. How's all the exciting fun immigration news I have this week. That really sucks.
It fucking sucks.
I guess one small update tangentially related.
A judge in New Hampshire blocked Trump's order on birthright citizenship while sidestepping
the Supreme Court's ruling against nationwide injunctions by adding all children born on US soil to a certified nationwide class.
So it's just now a massive class action case.
Hell yeah.
Hell yeah.
This is set to go in effect on July 17th.
We're recording this on the 16th.
We'll see if the government responds.
And July 17th is just 10 days before the partial implementation date of Trump's executive order.
Yeah.
So I wanted to start this by noting that a fan reached out to us on Blue Sky recently
with a clip from a quote by Omar Sharif, founder and president of Inflation Insights, who wrote
in a note to clients, today's report showed that tariffs are beginning to bite.
And yeah, this is, we finally come beautifully back
from Tarif don't like it to Sharif don't like it.
It's beautiful, you know?
It's like poetry, it rhymes.
Anyway, here's the song.
Tarih is don't like it.
Rockin' to Casbah, rockin' to Casbah. Do I want to know what inflation insights does?
It's again, they post clips of Huey, Dewey and Louie inflation fetish videos from the DuckTales kids
Working class they that should be a unionized position
I hope I hope that they're able to weather the tariffs
But what do you think the AFL CIO is about one of those were just inflation the FL
In my time, I deeply remember the first time I ever talked about inflation on the show
It could happen here because this happened and I deeply remember that
episode because we are going back to that fucking episode today and the moments that I heard doing to Iulia just started getting like fucking war flashbacks.
Yeah, imagine how bad those flashbacks would be if you had seen DuckTales inflation fetish
porn as a kid.
I avoided that until adulthood.
What I have seen is this article, inflationinsights.com has a fantastic article called, What the Great
Mayonnaise Inflation Mystery Can Tell Us About Prices.
I'm learning a lot here.
Okay, Mia, can we talk about tariffs now?
Okay, actual tariffs. So we have we have new tariffs
Indonesia apparently has agreed to a
tariff deal with the US in which the US
Imposes a 19% tariff on Indonesia and Indonesia doesn't impose one back per CNN
Trump posted on true social quote that Indonesia is buying $15 billion in US energy,
$5.4 billion in American agricultural products,
and 50 Boeing jets, many of them 777s.
Fucking rip Indonesia.
Good luck with those planes.
Oh no.
So the Indonesian government was complaining to the press
about how much of a shit show
negotiating this was.
We'll see if it holds.
We also got news that Trump has Trump has announced that he's going to basically send
a tariff letter to like 150 countries, setting their rates simultaneously, but he hasn't
done it yet.
I don't know.
It's possible by the time this goes out, we'll have that we'll have the actual number on it. Who knows what's going on with that?
Is that the August 3rd tariffs?
Maybe it's also unclear when they're gonna come into effect like it's all excellent
It's a catastrophe who knows this this policy is just fucking Calvin Ball. They're just making it up as they go right now
Yeah, there has also been very very funny news in our story from last week about
Trump's tariff demand on Brazil to try to get them to release Bolsonaro
Which is that hmm this has this has backfired spectacularly he has like saved Lula's
flagging approval rating it has created a massive a
massive anti Bolsonaro
pro-lula Brazilian nationalist backlash
of a kind that I really haven't seen since like
Dilma Rousseff had to deal with like the fact that the NSA was spying on her phone
It's very very funny a Bolsonaro is being accused by like but by Brazilian
conservatives of being and I quote a
phony nationalist who is just like a dog of the US. It's amazing Trump's done this
incredible pink wave across the world. Yeah it's stunning he might save Lula too.
The funniest part of this is that like Bolsonaro looks at this is like oh fuck
my entire base is turning on me because I'm so clearly
Like a dog of the Americans. Yeah, and so he turned around like denounced like the tariffs. It's like
That is outstanding
There is now one thing that both Lula and Bolsonaro agree on, other than cops should
kill more people, which is that these tariffs are bad, he has united all of Brazil.
It is absolutely hilarious.
You know, I tried to set up a similar deal with America's own critically-costpitalized
man, Steven Crowder, and it did not work out the same way, the way this Bolsonaro deal
went.
Some people say it's a little bit mean to negotiate with someone who
just constantly keeps going into the hospital for bizarre chest surgeries to make him look more masculine.
But hey, you know, podcasting is a competitive industry.
And we tried to create a similar trade deal with Crowder and it has not worked out.
He apparently had some similar problems with the Daily Wire.
So that's why you haven't seen much of him on the shows lately.
Great. Incredible. I love that Garrison somehow has become the person doing
unilateral trade deals for the podcast. Great stuff. Great stuff.
Only with people who are constantly in the hospital, either through
shitting problems or chest masculinization problems.
So it's really just Steven Crowder and Bolsonaro. either through shitting problems or chest masculinization problems. Good lord. Okay.
So it's really just Steven Crowder and Bolsonaro.
I think there are probably some other people who are in the hospital for shitting problems
if we throw their net that wide.
Not as much as Bolsonaro is, James.
That's true.
Bolsonaro is the most hospitalized man on the planet.
Well, second only to Steven Crowder.
Maybe they hang out there.
They might get a log.
Maybe they just need some boys time.
Maybe they won't get, maybe they hang out in the man cave at the hospital.
Crowder's been advocating this for years.
Jesus Christ.
Okay, okay.
So the final piece of news is actually what Robert started this on, which is that we have
gotten our first sign of actual
inflation increases from these tariffs, inflation increased to 2.7% in June, which is still
well below the 8% peaks in the early 2020s, but it is rising.
It's also worth noting this increase has been asymmetric.
I'm going to quote from the Financial Times here, quote, June's inflation rise was fueled
in part by higher food prices, but offset by weaker commodity prices.
Now there's two important things here, right?
One, food prices like matter significantly more for how pissed off everyone is than commodity
prices do.
And secondly, at the beginning of August, Trump is trying to impose a 50% tariff on copper.
So, those commodity prices, oh boy.
Get the copper strippers ready, folks.
Start stockpiling your wire now.
So the other thing that I think is really worth discussing about this is the reason
there hasn't been more inflation, and this has been something that we've kind of proposed as a mechanism on the show for what could happen, at least temporarily, is that
for right now, largely what's been happening is that companies, often directly under pressure from
Trump, have been just eating the cost of the tariffs. Yeah, I mean basically Donald's doing
what they call off-gassing and that's Donald both
as in Duck and as in Trump.
Jesus Christ.
Is that one of the things that can get you in hospital with Steven Crowder's Bolsonaro?
You know, James, that's a great guess.
So as I did long ago, the first time, I discovered that my co-workers, if I ever talked about
inflation, would only talk about tunnel duck inflation porn.
Huey Dewey and Louis inflation porn. Thank you very much.
Sorry, sorry. I am confusing my ducks. My ducks are not in a row.
Get your ducks in a row.
So the very important part about this though is these tariffs,
the very significant element of this is how pricing is actually set, right?
The general way that you are taught in Econ 101 that prices are set is prices supply and demand.
And so from this, you would think that the way pricing works is people draw a supply and demand graph and then you like put it there.
That's not how any of the shit works.
The way prices are actually set are specifically by pricing agents at each point in a supply chain down the supply chain, right?
So every firm involved in the production of a thing and moving the thing each one sets a price that they're selling to the next person
You selling to the next person each person adds on their cost plus markup and that's what a price is now
The reason prices tend not to move higher unless there's an unless there's an excuse to do it is that
consumers get pissed off when prices rise, even if they technically would be willing
to pay higher things, it damages your brand.
Right now, what we've been seeing again is that the effects of the inflation have been
mitigated by the fact these countries are just eating shit.
And instead of raising their prices to eat the cost that they've been doing, they've
been eating parts of their markup, which is like basically their pure profit, right?
They've been eating parts of their markup in order to not have the prices raised.
This is not sustainable.
This is especially not sustainable as more countries get tariffs and as
Trump's ability to pressure these companies weakens as like, you know, food
prices continue to increase and people start getting more pissed at him.
So this is just the beginning of this.
All of these tariffs are maximally set up to make sure that we get another run of this supply chain inflation.
Our friends over at Strange Matter wrote a very long piece about this a couple of years ago. We've talked about the show a few times.
I'm going to link that in the description. You should go read it. But that's the important thing that we've gotten from the Bureau of Labor Statistics data.
Yeah, I'm not really sure how Trump's gonna duck this responsibility for much longer.
I will say, I will say there is genuinely starting to be concern
that they're just straight up fudging the BLS statistics.
And like, I don't know if they're doing that.
But like, I've seen like a bunch of bond people be like,
are they just lying about the unemployment numbers?
And who knows?
Yeah, it would be very hard to prove that, right?
Yeah.
And I've seen how much cash Scrooge has in that vault.
So some people, the upper class, will not be affected as much as the working class ducks.
They're not saying the price of diving boards, for instance, could go up.
They're very price sensitive, because they need those diving boards to dive into their piles of cash.
I have two more updates I would like to do before we go to ad break.
For one, the Trump administration has sued the state of California over Title IX violations for having trans athletes.
This shows that even when you capitulate, like Gavin Newsom has tried to do, they will still come after you.
You cannot get out of this by trying to please the administration. They're still going to go after you.
Their entire policy platform is your Facebook uncle wanting to earn the libs.
So we can see how well Gavin throwing trans people under the bus has worked for the state of California.
Still getting sued.
Lastly, before we pivot to ads,
I want to update a story that Robert talked about last week. A former US Marine Corps Reservist was
arrested this Tuesday after a week-long manhunt. He faced charges related to an alleged armed
ambush on an ICE detention facility in Prairieland, Texas during a protest. He is now the 14th person
charged in connection with the incident, and is a protest. He is now the 14th person charged in
connection with the incident and is also accused of purchasing four of the guns
linked to the attack. Two other people were also charged after allegedly
helping the former reservist escape after the attack. Nancy Larson, the acting US
attorney, told Fox and Friends on Tuesday, quote, they were involved in
signal chats which show reconnaissance,
planning a Google map and the location of nearby police departments.
At least one of these two new people charged was only charged after cooperating with the investigation.
In this man's car, police found an AR-15 and a receipt for clothing that he admitted to purchasing for the former Marine Reservist.
Yeah, so, I mean, this is a story to continue to pay attention to. I would remind folks that we know what the state has alleged, and, you know, based on the charging documents, we know what
people have been saying to the police. But we don't fully know what's happened yet, so we'll
be continuing to keep an eye on this story as it develops. What do we have next?
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Let's close this episode by talking about Nazis.
Nazis? Let's close this episode by talking about Nazis.
Nazis?
That one doesn't work, Robert.
I'm sorry.
I want it to.
Yeah, no, it doesn't.
It doesn't.
It doesn't.
I've even tried it before.
I've even tried it before.
Yeah.
Now, we will have to return to Stinky Musk once again, but before we do, I first want
to talk about friend of the pod, Greg Gutfeld, who recently discussed
a strategy on how to minimize the impact of the American fascist right to being called
Nazis derogatorily.
I will play a short clip from Fox News.
This is why the criticism doesn't matter to us when you call us Nazis, Nazis, Nazis, Nazis,
Nazis. You know, I'm beginning to
think they don't like us. You know what? I've said this before. We need to learn from the
blacks, the way they were able to remove the power from the N word. Hey, what up my Nazi?
Hey, what's hanging my Nazi? please oh my god Greg Gutfield Wow Wow
they're all just laughing I think a lot of his fellow Fox News hosts are also
quite concerned with that that's pretty pretty disturbing. Yeah, they're not great.
He also, he gave it one of those just to really send it.
He like, he gave the my heart goes out to you gesture.
Oh, God.
That's right.
My heart goes out to you salute.
Yeah.
I mean, like, I remember, like, you know, five years ago, you had you had these alt-right
people talking about how, you know, actually Hitler was a socialist, you know?
The Nazis are actually communists. We're not Nazis.
And now they're just openly trying to normalize, referring to themselves as Nazis.
It seems notable.
Speaking of Nazis in the new rights. Oh, God. GroK 4 has gotten a Department of Defense contract for $200 million as a part of its
GroK for Government program, including the responsibility of handling sensitive classified
materials.
And it happens on the same week that...
Mecha Hitler.
Mecha Hitler makes his beautiful debut. Yeah. Pretty troubling for our strongest allies in the IDF here.
Gee, oh my god.
The ways that reality could break out into different timelines right now is kind of dizzying.
Because there's a possibility that Mecca Hitler starts doing strikes based on anti-Semitic Twitter users recommendations
directly tied in with government advisory programs.
I can say it's not going to end well for Turkey, judging by what we saw last week.
Another possible weaponization of Grokfor, it's been announced that Grokfor is going to be added to Teslas.
So Mecca Hitler might also be driving a Tesla around.
Yeah.
Great.
I will say, I will say the person the most happy about this right now is somewhere in
the depths of Chinese intelligence.
There is a Colonel who is looking at this announcement and is like, I am going all the
way to the top.
My family is never working again in our fucking lives. I am going to find so much dumb shit that these soldiers are typing into fucking
DOD GROK. Like, I am going to learn so much. I would be quite nervous right now
if I was Will Stancil, who... Yeah, he's got Tesla's kind of trying to molest him. Yeah.
He's going to get drone struck.
Every drone's going to turn around and try and find Will Stancil wherever they send it.
Grok is continuing to make rape threats against Will Stancil despite the tweaks in the code,
and is still referencing the Mecca Hitler incident.
So Grok 4 is a new model of XAI's chatbot service.
It launched officially last week.
It was pretty similar to the model of Grok used in the Mecca Hitler incident.
But there's been some small tweaks that researchers have noticed.
An AI researcher named Jeremy Howard released a video showing how Grok tries to answer a query about its stance on the quote, Israel-Palestine
conflict. Jeremy found, quote, it first searches Twitter for what Elon thinks, then it searches
the web for Elon's views. Finally, it adds some non-Elon bits at the the end 54 out of these 64 citations are about Elon."
Amazing.
XAI has confirmed that this was how Grok was operating and has since claimed that
it's making adjustments now and said that Grok was trying to appear in line with
the company's head and policy.
This is amazing because hopefully it does the same with its defense policy.
Wasn't Elon Musk one of those like F-35 has gone woke people?
You'll have to answer that for yourself, James.
Yeah okay.
This is a piece of law that has passed you by.
For a while there, Musk and some of his friends were tweeting about the F-35 being woke and how we should
return to F-16 or anything.
It was very funny.
Are we going to talk about the other weird chatbots?
Oh, how Grog has the Death Note Misa Misa as sex bot.
If you want to talk about it Mia? I will not stop you
I don't know what the fuck you're talking. It's Jar Jar Binks again
I have two sentences about this one of which is not mine the first sentence
I am going to say is that yeah Twitter now has like a really really weird
anime girl
Sexbot thing that's like an AI AI very clearly inspired by a Death Note character
yeah so sometimes you just need to say the obvious thing and the person who said the obvious thing is a
person on blue sky called at TVQ talks they said I keep saying it the push for AI made so much more
sense to me once I realized tech bros talk to it like a woman who won't talk back
And like, yeah... they just... oh god...
You know, I will say, if it was modeled after L instead of Misa, it could serve some use, it could be compelling
But because it's Misa, it's just completely useless, so...
Gar, we already have that chatbot that chatbot already exists this is
existed for a long time where is an L death note chatbot me actually you can
send it to me after there's a whole bunch of character chatbots that's like
a whole thing yeah maybe not exactly what I'm looking for but whatever God
okay terrible zero out of ten let's talk about the other DoD contracts. Well, yeah, this $200 million Grok contract was part of a series of AI contracts that
Anthropic and Claude also received. I think Google got one. It's part of Trump's initiative
to strengthen AI in government. So Grok is not the only one.
I will also say that this is obviously the end game of all of these companies
is trying to get their like failing AI firms bailed out by the military but even 200 million
is not enough to like recoup the hideous amounts of money these people are burning so I hope
they all fail.
Robert, do you have anything to add on Grok Talk?
I mean yeah I think it's funny he's also trying to make a companions out of grok one is clearly a version of his ex grimes who is supposed to teach you quantum physics and have sex with you this is part of the me some use a one as well yeah and then there's a my favorite is the mail chat bot which is based off of christian gray from fiftyades of Grey and also Edward Cullen from Twilight
who is himself based off of the guy from 50 Shades of Grey.
Yeah, I just saw that this was explicitly named as the two inspirations.
It's so funny. It's so funny.
Again, if it was L, it could be worthwhile, but this just is like is just slop worthless. No artistic merit.
No.
Anyway, that's all I gotta add.
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Late breaking news.
Trump has reportedly brokered a deal for Coca-Cola to use quote real sugar cane in US Coke products.
Yes, yes. Finally.
Wow. This is going to go down well with corn country.
No, this this genuinely like if he actually goes to war
with like the American corn lobby, if he's the one who does this
and like gets the blow up from it, I don't know.
Like this this this genuinely would be a seismic restructuring
of agriculture in the United States.
Oh, boy.
Yeah, I think they'll still use the corn, a lot of corn guys to feed things that then become food.
Right. But still, like, like we produce so much corn, we had to make more corn things.
Like every year they invent a new thing to do with corn.
Disastrous. God.
I am really going to miss red number 40. It was my favorite. Whenever I was feeling down, I just did a few drops. And it sucks to see an old friend go.
Yeah, tragic. Yeah, it's also going to be very hard for the people who've made their whole identity buying Mexican Coke and glass bottles. We should pour one out for them.
Oh, yeah, it's gonna be a rough night in Bushwick tonight.
Yeah.
Done.
We reported the news.
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We reported the news.
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