It Could Happen Here - Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #26
Episode Date: July 25, 2025The gang discuss Trump’s attempts to distract from Epstein, the construction of a 5,000 bed ICE detention camp at Fort Bliss, and cuts to the EPA and public broadcasting. Sources/Links: Fundrais...er: https://www.gofundme.com/f/immigration-lawyer-for-primrose https://www.wsj.com/politics/trump-jeffrey-epstein-birthday-letter-we-have-certain-things-in-common-f918d796?st=dg3j4m&reflink=desktopwebshare_permalink https://apnews.com/article/trump-jeffrey-epstein-grand-jury-justice-department-4634e5afceb8b1bb43f23558dfbb1d6c https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/mar/14/teen-models-powerful-men-when-donald-trump-hosted-look-of-the-year https://www.wsj.com/politics/justice-department-told-trump-name-in-epstein-files-727a8038 https://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/us-immigration-deport-chilean-man-living-pennsylvania-refuting-123944071 https://www.fastcheck.cl/2025/07/22/foto-atribuida-a-luis-leon-supuesto-migrante-chileno-deportado-a-guatemala-es-falsa/ https://news.un.org/en/story/2025/07/1165454 https://www.stripes.com/theaters/us/2025-07-22/fort-bliss-detention-center-migrants-18520342.html https://www.defense.gov/News/Contracts/Contract/Article/4250988/ https://www.oversight.gov/sites/default/files/documents/reports/2022-02/DODIG-2022-064.pdf https://comptroller.defense.gov/Portals/45/Documents/defbudget/fy2024/budget_justification/pdfs/01_Operation_and_Maintenance/O_M_VOL_1_PART_2/OHDACA_OP-5.pdf https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2025-07-22/trump-awards-immigration-detention-center-contract-for-fort-bliss-in-texas?utm_source=website&utm_medium=share&utm_campaign=copy https://www.hrw.org/report/2025/07/21/you-feel-like-your-life-is-over/abusive-practices-at-three-florida-immigration https://www2.ca3.uscourts.gov/opinarch/232598p.pdf https://www.thenation.com/article/world/afghan-refugee-fort-bliss/ https://ecf.cacd.uscourts.gov/doc1/031145354889 https://www.whitehouse.gov/presidential-actions/2025/05/ending-taxpayer-subsidization-of-biased-media/ https://www.cnbc.com/2025/07/23/trump-announces-massive-trade-deal-with-japan-with-15percent-tariffs.html https://www.theguardian.com/business/2025/jul/23/eu-100bn-no-deal-plan-trump-tariffs-threat-us-imports https://www.nbcnews.com/business/business-news/trump-trade-deals-are-arriving-how-they-might-affect-us-economy-rcna220465 https://www.cbsnews.com/news/puerto-rico-law-ban-hormone-therapy-gender-affirming-surgery-transgender-youth/ https://thehill.com/homenews/lgbtq/5407157-puerto-rico-gender-affirming-care-ban-transgender-americans/ https://www.the-independent.com/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-congress-epstein-mike-johnson-b2793874.html https://finance.yahoo.com/news/live/trump-tariffs-live-updates-trump-strikes-deal-with-japan-as-eu-us-reportedly-close-in-on-pact-200619932.html https://www.vanityfair.com/news/story/rumeysa-ozturk-what-i-witnessed-inside-an-ice-womens-prison https://www.politico.com/news/2025/07/21/npr-pbs-affiliates-worry-congress-clawbacks-00465850 https://archive.vn/zXQCw#selection-895.0-899.146See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
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This is It Could Happen Here, Executive Disorder, our weekly newscast covering what is happening
in the White House, the crumbling world, and what it means for you.
I'm Garrison Davis. Today I'm joined by Mia Wong, James Stout, and Sophie Lichterman.
This episode we are covering the week of July 16th to July 23rd. It has been six months since
Trump has took office. How do we feel about that, folks? Yeah, wow. There can't be three and a half, four years of this.
Like there just can't.
Like there will not be a country left.
Yeah.
Six months feels like a lifetime and not like it feels like no time has passed at all.
Yeah.
Six months of us doing this, which is wild.
Was that 42 months left?
Am I correctly additioning?
I don't do math.
Three years, six months.
Welcome to Mathcast with Dr. James Stout.
Yeah, a doctor of modern European history.
Does not involve arithmetic.
Let's go straight to Epstein, which is also what Hillary Clinton's
Black Ops kill squad said after they broke into the jail.
Wow, Garrison. you are spreading disinformation.
That is the one group of people we can confirm did not kill Jeffrey Epstein.
Garrison, just because Robert's not here, does it mean you have to go down to his level
of humor?
I think yesterday or two days ago, we released Epstein update episode where we discussed
the first Wall Street Journal story where they released this typewritten note given
to Epstein on his 50th birthday from Trump where he wrote this fake dialogue conversation
between him and Epstein saying, among other things, we have certain things in common,
Jeffrey.
Yes, we do come to think of it. Enigmas
never age. Have you noticed that? As a matter of fact, it was clear to me last time I saw you.
A pal is a wonderful thing. Happy birthday and may every day be another wonderful secret."
Which is, you could have just wrote like a pedophile confession note and it would be less
incriminating than whatever creepy shit you're doing with this.
So if you want to listen to our full update episode on that, just hop over to the other
episode after Executive Disorder is done.
We do have some other updates to add on because the Epstein thing keeps being in the news
despite the will of Donald Trump, who definitely wants this not in the news.
In fact, he is trying
out a number of distraction techniques, including releasing some files related to the death
of Martin Luther King, which when everyone's asking to release the files, that's not the
files they were talking about.
Also the family did not want that to happen. Very disrespectful.
And has stated that for a while, this is a very cheap way to run some distraction last week
Pam bondi sent a request to release the grand jury files on the Epstein investigation
And this was just a way to perform
Transparency because these types of files usually do not get released like this was most likely going to get blocked by the judge and
They knew that when they sent this request
This was just to perform this like gesture of transparency,
knowing that it wouldn't actually lead to anything. And all of this stuff goes against
what Trump was saying like a year ago. A year ago on Fox News, Trump said that he would
release the files and then although he did kind of catch himself and realize that that
might not be in his best interest because he kind of corrected and said that he would
have to make sure there's not phony stuff in there. Let's play the clip.
Would you declassify the 9-11 files? Yeah. Would you declassify JFK files? Yeah.
I did a lot of it. Would you declassify the Epstein files? Yeah, yeah I would.
Alright. I guess I would. I think that less so because you know you don't know
it you don't want to affect people's lives if it's phony stuff in there
because there's a lot's phony stuff in there
because there's a lot of phony stuff with that whole world.
But I think I would.
What does that fucking mean, that whole world?
Yeah.
So there's a lot of interesting things in there.
Notably, when Fox first aired this,
they only played the first half of his answer
where he said, yeah, I would.
It did not air the part where he said, um, well, actually, maybe not because there's a lot of
phony stuff in there. Yeah, that's interesting.
Eventually, the full clip went online. But at first, they released this shorter clip to
make Trump look better, which bears a lot of similarity to Trump's lawsuit against 60
Minutes and Paramount when they released two different clips of Kamala Harris answering a question in like the same week on two different shows answering the same question
like two halves of the answer. Trump said that this was done explicitly to change the outcome of
the election and sued 60 minutes for this and because Paramount the parent company of CBS News
is trying to complete a merger with Skydance which needs to be approved by the Trump administration
Paramount has started interfering with the affairs of 60 Minutes, had just canceled the Colbert
late show, possibly in efforts to appease Trump and just gave him this this massive bribe as a way
to get out of the lawsuit. So very similar situation where news companies are playing two
different things from the same answer. I think the one that happened on Fox News
is way more egregious than the one 60 Minutes did.
I think the 60 Minutes one makes sense.
But that's just a whole tiny aside.
Releasing Epstein files is something
that Trump has still been talking about.
Last week on Wednesday, July 16th
in an Oval Office press conference,
he was asked if he would get Pam Bondi
to try to release more documents. He answered like this.
Will you ask Attorney General Pam Bondi to release more documents to finally put this
controversy to bed?
You know, whatever's credible, she can release it. If a document is credible, of the documents
there that is credible, she can release. I think it's, I But it's just really, it's just a subject. He's dead,
he's gone. And all it is is the Republicans, certain Republicans got duped by the Democrats
and they're following a Democrat playbook.
So after this, Pam Bondi sent a request to a judge to unseal the Epstein-Maxwell grand
jury transcripts.
And again, this is the move to feign transparency. Attorney Sarah Krzysztof, assistant US attorney
in Manhattan from 2008 to 2021, told the AP that this move was a quote unquote distraction.
Quote, the president is trying to present himself as if he's doing something here and
really it's nothing. Unquote. She estimates that these transcripts could be as little as 60 pages anyway, because it is standard practice for the Southern District
of New York to put very little information in these transcripts compared to some other
states. And as expected earlier this week, the judge denied this request, which the Trump
admin knew was going to happen because they don't release grand jury transcripts. The
whole point of a grand jury is that it's secret.
Yeah. So this was never going to happen. I fear that's common sense.
But this was a move to make it look like they were having some level of transparency. Another tactic Trump has done to distract from the obscene story is directing Tulsi
Gabbard to run this huge distraction campaign by talking about the Obama treason investigation.
Jesus Christ.
Yeah.
I'll play a clip here.
There is irrefutable evidence that detail how President Obama and his national security
team directed the creation of an intelligence community assessment that they knew was false.
They knew it would promote this contrived narrative
that Russia interfered in the 2016 election
to help President Trump win,
selling it to the American people as though it were true.
It wasn't.
The report that we released today shows in great detail
how they carried this out.
They manufactured findings from shoddy sources.
They suppressed evidence and credible intelligence that disproved their false claims.
They disobeyed traditional tradecraft intelligence community standards and withheld the truth
from the American people.
Very serious stuff.
She looks like a villain from the Orville.
What they're talking about is, yeah, there was legitimate investigations into Russia's meddling in the 2016 election. What they were unable to prove is conclusive evidence that Trump colluded with the Russians. But this meddling was real and was proven. This is stuff that they found. And Obama was president at the time. And yeah, he's going to know about the investigation. So they're trying to turn that into this whole giant, giant hoax
regarding Obama trying to steal the 2016 election.
Again, an election that everyone knows Trump won.
Trump was president in 2017 to early 2021,
something that some people have tried to forget.
And they're trying to run like all of these distractions
just to keep people from talking about Epstein. And this is something that Trump's really good at.
All he needs to do is keep his base from turning on him. And the way he's going to do that is make
them angry at other people. He has to find new targets to make his base upset at. And right now,
he's trying it out with Obama, right? He's done that with Biden for years. He's done that with Clinton for years. Obama is the new guy that he hasn't
really targeted as much. So now he's trying to get his supporters really mad at Obama.
And that is the whole way that he's trying to hold on to their support and hold on to
their power. Because yeah, some of the Epstein stuff may be a little bit weird, but did you
see how Obama tried to steal the election? And this is his whole strategy. And he laid
this strategy out at a press conference earlier this week, where he's seen like coaching Republicans
to respond to questions about Epstein by just talking about Obama and the Russian election
interference investigation, the quote unquote, Russia hopes.
But remember this Obama cheated on the election. And we have it cold, hard, blue, and it's getting even
more so because the stuff that's coming in is not even believable. So and you should mention that
every time they give you a question that's not appropriate, just say, oh, by the way, Obama
cheated on the election. You'll you'll watch the camera turn off instantly. And this is the
strategy he uses. Whenever he's asked about something, he'll talk about the Russia
Russia Russia hoax, the Hunter Biden laptop, things that aren't even real things that he's
successfully Psy-opt the country into believing are like real things. But whenever he's asked a
question about Epstein, you can immediately pivot to that and have that control the conversation.
And he's laying out the strategy here. This is what I was talking about last week in ED about
how Trump like dictates reality through speech. And he's trying to coach his fellow Republicans
on how to do it. And they have to catch up on a lot of stuff because Trump's ties to
Epstein have been known for a long, long time. I'm going to play a very, very gross clip from around the turn of the millennia
talking about dating teen models.
What did you do last night for fun?
I actually went to the fashion award show.
I listened to him.
Pick up more models.
Working on his portfolio.
Yeah.
But Donald, do you worry because you have a daughter who's a model?
I do and I have a deal with her.
She's just 17 and she's doing great, Ivanka, and she made me promise her, swear to her,
that I would never date a girl younger than her.
So, if she grows older, the field is getting very limited.
Now that she's 17, his dating field is getting very limited. I wonder what he could mean by that.
I wonder what that could be insinuating.
Really fucking gross man.
Yeah, this shit is actually deeply fucking disturbing.
It's hideous and also the fact that the Democrats didn't spend the entire election just calling him a pedophile
and running ads that were just this man is a pedophile.
Like this is stuff we've known for a long time.
Yeah, we've done this for ages.
It's all like in the public domain.
Decades and decades.
This is from a Guardian article in 2020.
At 43 years old, Donald Trump asked a 17 year old girl on a date.
Trump asked her out for dinner in the summer of 1989 at an industry soiree. She recalls
Trump asking how old she was. Quote, I said 17. And he said, that's just great. You're
not too old, not too young. Unquote.
Legally speaking, too young.
Outrageous, outrageous stuff. And we have some breaking news from just a few hours ago.
We're recording this on Wednesday. A second Wall Street Journal article has hit the Trump Towers.
A new article talking about the Justice Department officials reviewing Attorney General Pam Bondi's
quote unquote truckload of Jeffrey Epstein documents and discovering that Donald Trump's
name appears multiple times according to senior administration officials.
Bondi notified Trump about this in May,
saying that a few other high-profile names are also in the documents,
and that the DOJ would not be releasing these documents
in order to quote-unquote protect victims,
as if you can't censor victims' names
or censor child sexual abuse material.
Yeah.
This is just a complete cover up.
Yep.
Oh, and by the way, in late breaking news that's sure to make everyone considerably
more normal, Epstein's defense lawyer Roy Black, who's the guy who got him off from
like going to prison for a billion years in 2007, just died like today.
So okay, Hillary Clinton kill squad is really it's really working
I mean working overtime this point like Donald Trump kill squad question. Oh, it's absolutely
We need to be retired the Hillary Clinton kill squad jokes cuz like I think it's very likely that Epstein did kill himself
I do not think you need to believe in that sort of like conspiratorial thinking to also believe that
to believe in that sort of like conspiratorial thinking to also believe that there's documented evidence of Trump dating teenagers and wanting to date teenagers for the past like 40 years.
And that's something that everyone should be aware of. Like that's not a conspiracy
theory and you don't need to believe in conspiratorial thinking to think that that's very likely.
That said, I do want to establish there is at least one person on
the podcast who thinks that he might not have. I don't know. But every single time they do more
weird shit about it, I'm like, maybe is this conspiracy brain thinking? Yes. But I mean,
editing the video didn't make anyone more certain that he killed himself? No. So as we enter the more than six month marker in the Trump administration, I think
we should check in on how the youths feel about Donald Trump. Famously, there's a lot
of reporting about how Gen Z is like, you know, swinging more conservative, how Gen
Z helped get Trump elected. And if you look at some February approval numbers, it does
seem that between ages of 18 and 29.
So too old using the aforementioned criteria.
Trump did have a plus 10 points approval with 55% approving only 45% disapproving of his performance.
Now come July, things have changed dramatically in the youth bracket 18 to 29 with only 28 percent approval negative 44 points and 72
percent disapproval which is a net 54 point negative swing.
That's genuinely astonishing.
Like that's a huge jump.
But it's not a jump Garrison.
It's a fall.
That's you're right.
You're right.
It is going down.
Yeah. It's a plummet. This is according to CBS News polls. Again, and I do. You're right. You're right. It is going down. It's a plummet.
This is according to CBS News polls.
Again, I do think Mia is right.
I don't know if Trump's going to care about this very much because this does seem to be higher than his preferred dating bracket.
So I don't think he's looking for the approval of people between 18 to 29.
But this still might affect him culturally, I guess.
Yeah. Talking of things that have gone down badly, Garrison, it is now our obligation to pivot
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And we are back. Let's do a immigration segment for the middle of the show.
And I guess I'll first start with ice watch.
So the past few weeks, I've seen multiple videos of ice pulling over cars and sometimes
not even like pulling over just like blocking cars and narrow streets, like stopping them
forcefully and then drawing guns as they get out of the car.
Like by the time they are like door open, feet on the ground, gun already drawn, and
they then descend on activists doing ice watch.
Basically people who follow ice agents around to alert their community of where ice currently
is.
Usually they're live streaming.
And this in particular video that I have sent
to the team here, very freaky.
I think we should just watch it here.
Yeah, yeah, definitely.
And we can try and describe it a little bit for listeners.
Let me see your hands!
Turn on the window right now!
Open the window!
We're getting a little bit more open the window. If you know who I am, then why the fuck are you telling me to open the window and where
the hell are you fucking pointing a gun a fucking taser at me if you know who I am?
Okay, and you guys follow everyone, everyone.
You guys stalk people all the fucking time. A very large man wearing a mask, a hoodie and a baseball cap.
No obvious identification, not in a police uniform, not in like a border patrol uniform.
It's just a guy who basically forces your car to stop and jumps out and points a gun
at you.
Yeah, well he draws from appendix Carrie.
Like it's not even-
In many states, this would be justification to start shooting at this man.
Yeah, yeah.
There's, I think, reasons why they're not doing this in states where there's high levels
of gun ownership, because they're afraid of that happening.
Because it's not clear at all.
This guy's a cop.
No, it's a masked man has forced your car to a halt and is pulling a gun on you and
is approaching you.
Yeah, I mean that happens in another country and you assume you're being robbed, like another
part of the world. Like, also, it's notable that the vehicle doesn't have lights.
It's not a cop car.
No, it's not even a US made car. Like sometimes cops will use like non marked cars, but they're
normally US manufactured right forward or US companies for Chevy, etc. This is a key
here. Everything apart from a lanyard hanging around the guy's neck, which is not
identifiable as a badge, certainly not at this speed, certainly not while he's
drawing a gun from appendix carry, points to this being someone trying to rob or
kill you. Very scary. Yeah, I will say I think the fact that they're being forced
to do this in some sense is a sign that this is really working. It's pissing them off.
The fact that people are keeping tabs on where ISIS is.
Yeah, it's working.
And I keep saying this, it's like,
they're the ones who are being forced to operate
as if they're working in a police state.
They're the ones who are having to deal with surveillance.
They're the ones who are having to deal with the fact
that if they stay in a place too long,
there'll be mass mobilizations
and people will just drop the hammer on them.
It's a really interesting look at what happens when you try to do this police
state shit in a society where everyone fucking hates you, which is that all you really have
is speed and terror. Totally. And so, you know, they're doing this shit, right? Like
they're just trying to terrorize people into letting them do their police state stuff.
But if people keep doing it, right, it seriously is like denting their effectiveness a lot.
Yeah, I've seen multiple videos like this. Eventually, the ICE agents will call over some
like state trooper or like a DHS guy who does not work for ICE directly to defuse the situation.
I've seen most of these situations get eventually defused. But it's something to, I think, draw
attention to right now.
Yeah. I mean, if this keeps happening, it's likely to end in violence somewhere, right?
I mean, this is the same thing when they're kidnapping college students without any clear
identification.
Yeah, yeah.
And notably, doing that in like New England states, where people do not conceal carry
firearms like regularly as like a regular thing that like people do.
Yeah, I mean, firearms are not the only means of violence available to people.
Like, that lady seemed very calm and commendably so, but like she could have stepped on the gas
pedal of her car and like,
Totally. Absolutely. Right. Yeah. And obviously this person knows that the guy is iced because
that's why she's following him. But if ice just starts getting paranoid about cars behind
them, if they think someone's following them, they can pull this on someone who's not doing
ice watch. Yeah, they can just pull this on anyone who they are like suspicious of.
And I think that's when really dangerous situations could start breaking out
between these like unmarked ice agents and just regular citizens.
And I think the odds of one of them just snapping and starting
shooting is. Like not zero,
because that's who these people are, and as they're increasingly put under stress, they're being trained to always be
afraid of danger, like more so than even just like regular like cop stuff.
Like they're talking about how like violence against ICE is up 800 percent,
where the violence is like someone's head meets an ICE agent's fist.
Right. It's that sort of violence where it's like you're assaulting a cop
by like partially resisting arrest in some way, but they are spreading those stats as if this
is a real epidemic of violence against ICE agents right now.
Another story I'd like to talk about is this deportation hoax story that I've seen going
around social media, seen it going around like r slash green card on Reddit, like tick tock, and even like local news stories
across the country, where I secretly deport an 82 year old torture survivor and US legal
resident for 40 years. And this man goes to an immigration office to replace a green card.
And instead of that happening, ice handcuffs him, detains him, denies access to a lawyer, and deports him to
Guatemala, a country where he is not from, with no official paperwork, and then is put into the
hospital in Guatemala. This story got super vital the past week. And from what we can tell, this is
not a real story. There was no immigration appointment in Philadelphia at the time of
this viral story. Guatemala says that the man is not in the country. The hospital he was alleged to be at, doctors have said
there is no man matching this description in the story. And the photos attached to this
viral story of the man are not of this guy. The photos are of a guy who died three years
ago. This is from what we can tell an entirely fabricated story that one local news outlet bought and then spread around from there.
It's not even clear if like the family members that were the original source of this even
exist.
It's not clear if this man even exists.
So this is, from what we can tell right now, not real, not real at all.
And this is something to keep in mind, just because a story is like scary and just
because it's going viral does not necessarily mean it's true. And we don't need to be sharing
fake stories of ICE deporting people or even going after green card holders because this
is actually happening. This is happening in the country right now. And ICE is defying
judicial orders.
Yeah. So let's talk about one of those incidents, right? In this case, it's a man called Leonel
Navarrete Hernandez, who filed a habeas suit in the central district of California, right,
against the Department of Homeland Security. Let's get some background on his case first,
and we can talk about this specific kind of, not just defying court orders, but also the
United States Constitution. So he fled to the United States in 2009 after being pursued by the police and falsely accused in El Salvador and beaten by
police several times. I'm going to quote from the court documents pretty extensively throughout this.
Including in one instance beaten until he vomited blood resulting in a cut on his head
that scarred and a fractured finger. In 2022, he was part of a targeted
enforcement operation and he was issued a notice to appear and then he bonded out. He posted bail
and he was out of detention. In January 2024, he filed for asylum. He didn't get asylum due to
timing of filing. He also asked for withholding of removal. He didn't get that because he
of filing. He also asked for withholding of removal. He didn't get that because he quote, failed to show that his proposed, quote, particular social groups are cognisable or that
his past harm was because of a protected ground, right? So regular listeners will know that there
are certain grounds on which one can obtain asylum and what has to be part of these certain
categories to obtain asylum. What he did get was protection of removal under the Convention Against Torture
because, again quoting, it is more likely than not that the respondent will be detained
and tortured in El Salvador. El Salvador had put out an Interpol Red Alert for him for some reason,
they deeply wanted him back, there doesn't seem to be any evidence that this person committed crimes.
ICE appealed this protection of removal right and then the same day they appealed this, this protection for removal, right? And then the same
day they appealed it, they detained him when he appeared at his intensive supervision appearance
program check-in. So ICE app, right, is one of these things where instead of being detained,
you appear at ICE office and check in every now and again, right? As opposed to them just locking
you up for the entire time. His partner then testified to the court that, quote,
entire time. His partner then testified to the court that quote, Leonel called me and told me that he was arrested. He says immigration officers went up to him at his ISAP check in and told him he was
under arrest. Leonel said he asked the officers why and informed them he had an order from the judge.
The officers said something like, judges don't, judges orders don't matter, only the president.
Judges orders don't matter, only the president. Judges orders don't matter, only the president.
This is a rogue law enforcement agency
in service of a rogue president.
Like- Yeah, Leonel then told me
that he told the officers he had an attorney,
I'm still quoting from his partner here,
but the officer said, that doesn't matter either.
He has an order forbidding his deportation
and they're telling him that doesn't matter
because the president wants you out of the country.
Yeah exactly and that is what they have done right that was the entire rendition of people
to El Salvador was an end run around that right attempting to
And they're just like saying this to people.
Yeah because that's what they're doing.
That's more and that's what they said to the court right we sneaked him out before you
could stop it.
Yep.
So just to update people on this case he called from jail in Santa Ana and said he was in
a small space and he heard people being taken to San Diego or Texas. Then he had to hang up. He was
moved around significantly, all around, including into Texas when he showed up on the detainee
locator. The judge in the case issued a tentative restraining order to prevent them from removing
him. In detention, he was only allowed to make phone calls for three minutes and in one of those calls he told his partner that detention officers, I guess,
were telling detainees they were going to be removed whether or not they signed deportation
papers. In his case, the court has issued an injunction to prevent his removal or his
re-detention. So, like, shout out to the Central District of California, I guess.
This is wild, right? This is dictatorial regime shit. You have no rights other than those in person who decide
to give to you is the subtext here.
It's explicitly the fascist thing of like, there are people who exist outside legal order
in order to maintain it and that person is the fear. Like that's just what this is, right?
Like it's really explicit.
I don't really know what people expect of them.
And like, you know, they expect to dress like they're in the sound of music, you know?
Like this is what fascism looks like.
Let's talk about some more immigration cases.
What other immigration updates do we have, James?
Yeah, well, none of them are great, to be honest.
No, the immigration segment has been a bit of a bummer the past, let me check my watch,
six months.
Yeah, it is hard on the soul. New Jersey District Court has struck down the state's law forbidding
private immigration detention. This also happened in California, right? They said it was state
ovary. So this was an issue. It's federal detention, so the feds get to decide, basically.
Right? So New Jersey had tried to stop the GEO group, CoreCivic, these massive detention operations
from operating private immigration detention in the state. Couldn't get that one through
the courts. Probably the bigger story this week is that
the federal government has signed a contract for a huge 5,000-bed tent camp facility for
migration detention at Fort Bliss. It's according to reporting in Bloomberg. Bloomberg has reported that the contract total
is $1.26 billion. The only contract I was able to actually find was a Department of
Defense contract for $231,878,229. What is not being reported on this, and I don't understand
why other than nobody reported on
immigration during the Biden admin apparently. People are looking for analogues. What would this
be like? Well, the Department of Defense operated a tent facility at Fort Bliss under Operation
Allies Welcome for Afghan people arriving in the United States after the bungled withdrawal from
Afghanistan. I interviewed one of them. I was freelancing for The Nation at that time and there'll be a link in the show notes. But the Afghans were housed at
a place called Dona Ana Range, which is in New Mexico. So Bliss spans Texas and New
Mexico. This new complex seems to be in a different place because it will be, quote
unquote, soft-sided, which just means tense. But this one is accessible from El Paso streets and it's accessible without
entering the Fort Bliss main gate, so people don't have to have on-base clearance. The Afghan site
had 98 tents, which each held about 100 people. This one will house 5,000 people, so we can assume
about 500 tents. This contract for 1.26 billion, Operation Allies Welcome was larger, right? It did other
things. For instance, all those people got their COVID vaccinations because they hadn't got them
when they were in Afghanistan. A lot of other vaccinations too. But that was spent $3 billion
just in fiscal year 2022 to give people a sense of the scale of these things, right? So $1.26 billion
is not at all out of the question. And in fact, brings me on to my next point, which is that it may be a bit low given that this company has no
experience with this kind of operation. One of the questions we asked back in November
when we did our What Could Happen under Trump? is how will they stand up these facilities?
Who has the experience to do it? Well, this company does not have the experience to do
it. They've never done anything like this before. They have some logistic contracts
with DOD, but they do not have the capacity, at least they have not shown that they have
the capacity to do anything on this scale. The DOD operation used a lot of contractors
as well as defact dining facility for food. I just want to quote some of the people, a
bull who I talked to who was in that detention facility. Quote, for the past month, night time was the most
horrible time for us because every day it got colder. We didn't have enough warm clothes
or any thick blankets to fight against the cold. They gave us a blanket that was so thin
we could see through it. These are people who in some cases fought alongside United
States soldiers, right? It's not going to be better for migrants.
Abul also told me the food wasn't great. He said, quote, it's not cooked enough or it's burned.
He did say that he appreciated the quote, the guy doing the cooking was always asking for feedback.
They tried to cook Afghan food, I guess. And yeah, but he appreciated the effort to cook food.
Interesting.
Yeah. I mean, they ain't going to try that now this time, right? But no, they did, for instance, provide halal food, which was a consideration.
I'm assuming this time they're going to be getting the fucking boldy food from Florida.
Yeah, I mean, the United States has a whole bunch of food should have gone out to many
of the starving people around the world, right?
But yet has been left to mold and warehouses.
So yeah, they might be eating the high energy biscuits or the hum rats. Talking of food, Human Rights Watch has released a report detailing human rights abuses at detention
centers. The report focuses on Chrome North Service Processing Center, OK, a Chrome,
the Broward Transitional Center, and the Federal Detention Center. All of these are in Florida.
Are those first two like privately owned that are then being leased or licensed out to the government?
Yes, they're run by contractors for the government for immigration detention. We've talked about
Chrome before. It was one that was already overcrowded, had two deaths.
It's also the name that I would pick for an evil agency who gets a for-profit prison.
It's Chrome with a K.
With a K too, which makes it more evil.
So the incidents you tell in this report are pretty bad.
They include people being forced to eat like dogs with their hands tied behind their back.
They include people being punished and put in solitary confinement for seeking medical
or mental health help.
And having their hands zipped tied and been forced to lay down on wet floors. As is very common in ice facilities, the air conditioning
was turned up very high to make it uncomfortably cold. This is the case in every immigration
detention facility that I've heard about. The Spanish word translates to ice box,
is the word that people use to refer to these facilities. The FTC staff also
used stun grenades and physical force against detainees protesting denial of food, water
and medical attention. The report details people being detained in crowded cells with
no beds or bedding and denied essential medications. I read a couple of quotes from people interviewed
in the report here. Quote,
You could not fall asleep because it was so cold. I thought I was going to experience
hypothermia, one said. It's like psychological abuse. You feel like your life is over, said
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This past week, the World Food Program released a new report on food scarcity in Gaza, like
enforced through the Israeli military, and also discussed a quote unquote deadly incident
this past Sunday in which dozens of civilians were killed and injured while waiting to access food as a World Food Program convoy was entering northern
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I'm going to quote from the UN here, quote, Mr. Smith said, World Food Program assessments show that a quarter of the population is facing famine-like conditions. Almost 100,000 women
and children are suffering from severe acute malnutrition
and need treatment as soon as possible. Pointing to reports, he said, quote, people are dying from
a lack of humanitarian assistance every day. And we are seeing this escalate day by day,
saying that food and humanitarian assistance are, quote, the only solution at the moment for Gaza,
unquote. And it's worth emphasizing with this that like the food is there.
It is literally just sitting in warehouses like they can bring it in the moment the blockade
lifts but the Israelis don't want people bombing people bringing food into Gaza.
At this point, they keep on doing this thing where they'll be like, oh, we have food and
then they shoot everyone who shows up to get food.
So this is something that World Food Program has been saying, quote,
We also need to have no armed actors near food distribution points,
near our convoys and near the movement of those convoys from one place to another.
This is basic humanitarian aid shit.
This is like one on one fucking operating humanitarian resources
in a conflict zone stuff. This isn't new stuff, right?
This is asking the
IDF to do what you would expect any reasonable actor to do in one of these situations.
Obviously the IDF not a particularly reasonable actor, right?
Speaking of things I don't like.
Oh, Garrison, you cannot compare the work of Joe Strummer to the IDF.
Unreasonable. Jesus Christ. Terrible. Jesus Christ. compare the work of Joe Strummer to the IDF. Oh.
Unreasonable.
Jesus Christ.
Terrified of like.
Jesus Christ.
All right.
Welcome to Tariff Talk, a thing where I had no role in the prior transition to it.
So we've gotten a few tariff deals over the week.
We got one with the Philippines where Trump has negotiated a deal for a 19%
tariff on all goods from the Philippines coming to the US.
There's also been a deal established with Japan, where we're at a tariff rate of 15%.
This one also has, and there's been a few of these deals that have things like this,
where Japan also had to agree to invest $550 billion in the US.
It's really unclear how that's going to work. Like it might just be loans. That's the part I
don't even know if it's going to happen because it's so staggeringly fuzzy and unclear as to what
any of that means. Trump has been talking about how there's going to be like a 90-10 profit split
where Americans take home 90% of the profits and Japan takes home 10%
Very weird very weird. This is also
Look, it's worth noting that the last time we deliberately decap Japan's export manufacturing economy
Treating the Plaza Accords it kicked off an economic crisis that Japan has literally never recovered from
Like people used to talk about the Japanese economy in the way that we talked about the
Chinese economy now is like the emerging rising unstoppable force that was going to like
Become the world's greatest manufacturing power and we don't do that anymore
Partially because of like Japan hit like structural over capacity in the market blah blah blah blah blah listen to me on every other
Episode where I talk about the Plaza Accords and structural
global manufacturing over capacity
But again the second thing is we also made their manufacturing
less competitive and it destroyed the entire global economy.
Like it's the reason 2008 happened is because we did that.
And we're doing it again.
Like 28% of the Japanese economy is based on like car exports.
So that's great. That's fun.
There's also been reports that there's a deal with the EU coming.
I don't know. Who knows? I'm not going to say what's in it because we don't know if this is going to happen.
There's that one in particular. There's a lot of things that can torpedo it, but it's not great.
Also, these terrorists, by the way, are replacing the ones that are scheduled to go into effect on August 1st.
Trump is still promising to put out tariff things for 120 countries or something like that.
I don't know the number.
The number is exactly right now.
It keeps changing.
He keeps also not writing those letters.
So who knows?
Okey dokey.
Yeah. Great way to have terrorist policy set is that Trump says something
on truth social and then doesn't do it.
That's what he does.
Yeah, sometimes he does.
It's good. It's a good way to do it. Sometimes he does. Yeah. Sometimes he does. It's good. It's a good way to do things.
Okay, so speaking of things being done badly, we need to talk about NPR and PBS because the
republic had just cut 1.1 billion dollars from public broadcasting, which is like all of- Again,
we reported on what Elmo said last week. It's not a surprise that PBS is getting cut after this I actually okay hold on we have not on this show talked about the fact that
PBS like sold Sesame Street yes that's true this is so ghoulish like it does
genuinely Sesame Street was like one of the few like really truly great triumphs
of American state media like it was specifically designed to teach kids some
underprivileged backgrounds how to read now
It's on like like HBO Max or Netflix
Yeah, I think some of these are still available on public broadcasts and some of it's in a public domain like it's probably on YouTube
It's been out for so long. Yeah, but like the problem is like this is genuinely one of the greatest public goods
The US ever created and it was fucking looted and privatized and yes
And now as all
of this funding is being cut Trump has basically been pissed off at public
broadcasting for ages actually hilariously a lot of this one of the
big origin points of this was that they had friend of the show Vicki Osterweil
on NPR to do an interview about her book in defense of looting and Republicans
been mad ever since like a few ago, Trump signed an executive order to quote unquote end taxpayer subsidization
of biased media, unquote, which specifically sought to defund MPR and PBS through ending
contributions through the Corporation for Public Broadcasting in the order saying, quote,
government funding of news media in this environment is not only outdated and unnecessary, but
corrosive to the appearance of journalistic independence. And instead, they replaced the role of PBS
and NPR with one America News, the super far right mode in sending like American news overseas
instead of promoting things like the Voice of America, they are explicitly entering a
partnership with OAN, which is absurd.
Yeah, this is stuff like Voice of America News and the Cuban Broadcasting Office, right?
Like, where they... which are explicitly...
Yes.
Like, these are things the US government does to advance its agenda abroad.
Like, this isn't...
And now, the way that they're doing that is with one American...
Which is really funny, because that probably does make it less effective.
I do want to circle back a little bit to what this is going to do to NPR and PBS because
like the main central NPR, I mean, obviously it's a disaster for even like the national
NPR, but like this is going to just annihilate any semblages of like local news, right?
Like yeah, because they rely on public broadcasting and NPR massively around the country, especially
in rural areas. Like one of the reports I was reading was talking about how like Texas was expecting to lose half
of their like NPR stations in like rural areas.
This is just like the apocalypse for any kind of like rural local news.
And you know, obviously like this is a part of Trump's attempts to
just consolidate all of the American media under his control through a combination of
destroying this kind of stuff and then doing lawsuits and
Also, and this is another thing we need to talk about is like here's and you talked about the sky dance merger and how that
You know is being used as leverage to like just destroy the gut CBS
Looted and turn it into just like a pro-trump outlet right like allegedly entering in a cooperation deal
with the free press from Barry Weiss
exert editorial control over CBS News, which will just take the outlet destroy 60 minutes, one of the
the most respectable long standing television news programs in the history of the country.
I think there's a very good argument that this is what Bezos is doing to Washington Post,
right? It's better for these people that news outlets don't exist
or like seven people read the like unhinged far right things
than it is for like anything to actually exist.
This is all again, like media consolidation of dictatorial regime
being accelerated by the fact that all of these things are owned
either by corporations or individual billionaires.
So that's bad.
Speaking of bad, the EPA's Office of Research has just been
eliminated. This is a unbelievable catastrophe because the EPA's Office of Research does
all of the basic research about like, is this chemical dangerous? What does this chemical
do to the environment? What does like, what do these pollution levels do? This is the
part of the EPA that undergirds like basically all environmental regulations
and all regulations on things like chemical protection, right?
It comes out of this office of research.
That's where the standards are set.
That's where the science is done that is used in basically like all like regulatory policy
that the EPA does that other agencies used to and they're just destroying it.
Trump has said that they're going to move some of it to other offices, but they've already been massively downsizing the EPA.
Every day we edge closer and closer to just like this is a country with no environmental regulations.
We're seeing it more and more. At some point on the show, we're going to cover
all of the unhinged shit that's been happening with the power stations and like generators set
up to power AI stuff. I also want to specifically mention one of the things that the New York Times
reported on which is that people who are running the destruction of the EPA have
been trying to get rid of the integrated risk information system which if you've
ever dealt with dangerous chemicals the integrated risk information system is
the system that tells you what the effects of it are. Every chemical has one, right? And these fucking people, like there's a
guy who's now in the American First Policy Institute, which like Trump pulls a lot of
shit from, who is literally talking about just getting rid of it because, quote,
iris evaluations often rely on worst case scenario hazard assumptions that fail to consider real-world
exposure.
But that's kind of the situation with these things, isn't it?
You do want to look at the worst-case scenario.
Yes.
And when you don't look at the worst-case scenario, one of the other agencies that's
been just destroyed is the U.S. Chemical Safety and Hazard Investigation Board, which is very
famous for doing a bunch of very, good YouTube videos about like plant disasters and like how safety violations and safety lapses caused like fucking
plants to explode and that's just like gone now and this is you know the the
world that these people want you to live in is a world in which you don't know
what all of these corporations are pumping into the environment around you
and even if you can figure out what the chemical they're pumping, like into the
groundwater that you're drinking is, you're not supposed to know what it does.
This is just like the basic infrastructure for how all American, like
chemical operations work.
And they're just trying to destroy it.
Isn't that great?
Speaking of chemicals.
Yeah, speaking of chemicals and the government trying to destroy it the government of Puerto Rico has passed a bill
That bans gender affirming care of all kinds for anyone under the age of 21 because 21 is the highest that we've seen
But what's happening here is 21 is the age which become a legal adult in Puerto Rico, which is unhinged
Yeah, this is the highest band we've seen we've seen a couple of other places try to do it to 19
this also includes what's basically a height amendment for
Transcare like all trans care of all ages that says that like state money cannot be used So state insurance stuff like that in Puerto Rico cannot be used to pay for any gender affirming care at all.
Which is fucking hideous.
This is basically the thing we were trying to stop with Medicaid or that we did stop
Medicaid last budget bill, but they've passed a local version of it.
This bill promises is up to five years in prison and $15,000 in fines for anyone who
gives trans health care to anyone under the age of 21.
So if you never plan to visit Puerto Rico, it's time to start mailing
gender affirming care services to people in Puerto Rico.
The fun part, too, is this law is worded so loosely that there is genuine concern
that it could apply to like if you are a parent
and you try to get your kid gender affirming care.
This could apply to you.
I will say, I think that aspect of it is still a little bit unclear.
I don't want to inspire too much panic in that sense.
Yeah, a lot of it is directed at people who work in the medical industry.
But still, I think if you do not ever want to visit Puerto Rico and you want to help
trans people, just presumably like no ban on like the import of these products, right?
I guess some products are themselves controlled. Yeah, I mean
In Shalaa, they don't start doing that but
Because famously there's never illegal drugs mailed in the United States
They can't stop us fellas. We're getting the HRT one way or another
But this sucks and it will force people to adapt and it's a really unfortunate to see but I do believe in the ability
Which has people to overcome the state's attacks against us before we close
There's actually one other piece of important news that we need to discuss
We're turning once again to the stinky musk segment because boy the Tesla diner has finally opened
I know we've been waiting for this for a long time.
It is open in LA, right?
Right?
So James, you need to get up there
and go to the Tesla Diner.
They have Cybertruck food containers.
So that's cool.
They have Tesla robots helping to serve food and drinks.
It's what they're calling retrofuturist style.
I would never say that. And most importantly, if you want to spend $12, robots helping to serve food and drinks. It's what they're calling retro-futurist style.
I would never say that.
And most importantly, if you wanna spend $12,
you can get yourself a single serving of Epic Bacon.
That's on the menu.
It's called Epic Bacon for $12.
$12 Epic Bacon at the Tesla Diner.
Why is it 12?
Oh, they also opened it at 420.
I saw that they also have avocado toast, which is great for those of us who will never afford a home.
I can't support the Tesla diner serving this lib cuck avocado toast.
It needs to be beef tallow fries only.
Well, unfortunately, they did put buttermilk bread with avocado toast, so just so like vegan people can't eat there, I guess.
There you go. Yeah. And again, I cannot go to the Tetesadina and I'll have to return to Buffalo Wild Wings
at 2am like I did when I was up in LA covering the protest a few weeks ago.
Buffalo Wild Wings opened that late?
Incredible.
Let me tell you, it was a time.
What other time are you going to be eating Buffalo Wild Wings?
Are you lunching there like a fucking psycho?
I have not been there since college, but it was a good time back in the day.
That time was a great time.
Oh god.
No one looked to be weird for wearing a fucking plate carrier with press stamped on the front.
Because it's buffalo wild wings. That is a war zone.
It's basically one step removed from like Waffle House.
Yeah, yeah, which is in turn one step removed from Fallujah.
James, you had something you wanted to plug.
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In 2020, a group of young women found themselves in an AI-fuelled nightmare.
Someone was posting photos.
It was just me naked.
Well, not me, but me with someone else's body parts.
This is Levittown, a new podcast from iHeart Podcasts, Bloomberg, and Kaleidoscope, about
the rise of deepfake pornography and the battle to stop it.
Listen to Levittown on Bloomberg's Big Take podcast. Find it on
the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts.
So what happened to Chappaquiddick? Well, it really depends on who you talk to.
There are many versions of what happened in 1969 when a young Ted Kennedy drove a car
into a pond.
And left a woman behind to drown.
Chappaquiddick is a story of a tragic death
and how the Kennedy machine took control.
Every week we go behind the headlines
and beyond the drama of America's royal family.
Listen to United States of Kennedy
on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts,
or wherever you get your podcasts.
I'm Bob Crawford, host of American History Hotline, a different type of podcast.
You the listener, ask the questions.
Did George Washington really cut down on a cherry tree?
Were JFK and Marilyn Monroe having an affair?
And I find the answers.
I'm so glad you asked me this question.
This is such a ridiculous story.
You can listen to American History Hotline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcasts, or
wherever you get your podcasts.
This is an iHeart Podcast.