It Could Happen Here - Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #28

Episode Date: August 8, 2025

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Garrison Davis, this episode, I'm joined by Mia Wong, James Tote, and Robert Evans. We're covering the week of July 30th, August 7th. Robert, what is Texas? So the original root word of the state's name is Tejas, which means friendship, a thing that no one in Texas has ever known because it's the angriest meanest state in the country. That's Texas, Garrison. Up for some stiff competition these days. Up for some stiff competition.

But it's still holding out, isn't it? Everything's bigger in Texas, Garrison. It's famed as being the second or third worst state that borders New Mexico. So, you know, rarefied company. Really, it can compete with all of the states bordering New Mexico except for Colorado. But the states bordering New Mexico except for Colorado are Oklahoma and Arizona and Texas. So not high bars. Texas has some of the finest airbed and breakfasts that I've ever stayed in.

That's right. including one with a deeply disturbing basement. Okay, just because they had one torture basement, James. So we're talking about Texas right now because a bunch of the Democratic state legislators just fled the state for Illinois, I believe is how the name of the state is pronounced. It's French.

It's French. Fact check from a real Illinois and wrong. Dispose fact checks by real Illinois. So when you've got a legislature of pretty much any, type, at least in the U.S. I'm sure there's other countries that don't do it this way. But you need what's called a quorum in order to actually do anything, which means of the total number of elected members of the legislature, you need a certain number of them. Otherwise, you can't like do anything because there's not enough people there in order to actually have it be a

valid vote. And I probably don't have to explain the reasonings why there's some pretty obvious reasons why you'd want it to work this way. But there are, however, some downsides to it. You know, potentially you can be depending on whether or not your side is doing it. It's a downside or an upside, right? Which is that if you have a side that is the minority in the government and they don't want a vote to go through, they can just bounce. And if they bounce at the right time before the legislature has been called and like no one's there, then you can't get a quorum and nothing can get done. And this is big news right now because in order to stop a redistricting vote, a bunch of Democratic legislators have fled. But this is a thing that has been going on for well

over a century. And it is a thing that both sides of the aisle have engaged in with substantial regularity. I'm not an expert on any of this. The earliest example I can find of anyone doing this is in Texas. I'm not saying that means it's the earliest example of anyone in the U.S. doing this. But the earliest example I found in my research was from 1870. So there's an article on this in that by the Texas State Historical Association called Understanding the Rump Senate of the 12th Texas Legislature. And the Rump Senate is a term applied to the 15 radical Republican members of the 12th Texas legislature who fled in 1870 to stop a vote on a militia bill. And this bill gave the governor power to declare martial law. It gave him the power to establish a state police

force. It increased the appointive power of the governor. A bunch of stuff that's not all that interesting to us today because governors like every state does this today right like there's state police everywhere every state governor has the power to call a militia you know a national guard or whatever like this is not controversial today but it was back then and it's important that i note that while it was 15 radical republicans who fled in 1870 those were conservatives right like the radical republicans were conservatives in 1870 right so this is this is kind of a reverse, if you're just sort of looking at things from a liberal or conservative point of view, this is kind of a reversal of what's happening right now in Texas, although it's happened

a lot of other times since, right? So this is 1870, and I should note, it didn't succeed, right? This is, however, one of the fairly rare times, when this kind of thing happens, if it goes on long enough, every time the governor basically will declare an arrest warrant for the legislators who have left. And as a general rule, this does nothing, right? Like, the governor has the ability to find them a certain amount per day, and it has the ability to call out an arrest warrant, but it's not like a real arrest warrant. Like, if you murder a guy and then flee to another state, an arrest warrant will be issued that law enforcement in that state has to abide by it, right? Because you murdered somebody. This is not a real crime. Basically,

if you flee back, if you wind up back in the state that you left, you can be taken into custody by law enforcement in the state, but they can't leave the state to get you. And almost, I would say, like, 90% of the time when something like this happens, nobody actually gets arrested. However, in 1870, several conservative members were held under arrest for like three weeks until the Senate could pass the legislation. So as is usually the case, whenever stuff like this happens, it only succeeded in kind of delaying the inevitable. It didn't succeed in actually stopping things. And this has happened a number of times in Texas. Most recently, Texas Democratic lawmakers broke quorum in 2021.

And I want to quote here from an article in ABC News, quote, Texas state lawmakers Lesbrook Quarron in 2021 when Democratic House representatives fled Texas to prevent measures restricting voting options. The measures eventually passed after internal Democratic fissures led to enough representatives returning to form a quorum. And this is the kind of thing where Governor Abbott allowed the sergeant of arms or commanded the sergeant of arms to arrest the members within Texas. Weirdly enough, a couple of them did return. The first was Philip Cortez, who, like, briefly came back to Austin to handle personal business, and there was a civil arrest warrant signed, but then he fled the state again before he could be arrested. There were warrant signed for the 52 remaining absent legislators, but law enforcement didn't arrest or detain anybody. Eventually, enough Democratic legislators came back into the state

for, like, personal reasons. Some of them had, like, shit to handle, like, in their own life. some of them had other things they wanted to push through in terms of like legislature and so they were like, I guess I'll come back and let this happen. And eventually the House reached quorum and this past Democrats did not face the $500 a day fine that they'd been threatened by the governor and nobody was arrested. Now, I've been talking about Texas here, but this happens all over the place. In fact, when this story first broke, the immediate thing I thought back on was what happened very recently in the state of Oregon and has happened a couple of times. in the state of Oregon. You know, it's mine, too. They do this all the time. They do this a lot. It's like for four months. Yes.

This is a common thing in Oregon. It has started, and this is, both parties have done this, I should note, right? Both Democrats and Republicans in Oregon, as in Texas have done walkouts. They don't even have to leave the state. They don't even have to leave the state, although they have recently. This seems to have started in Oregon, I think, in the 1970s. There's actually a really good article that's a, like, kind of, overview of a bunch of different states history of doing this in

Central Oregon Daily News, although it's an AP Press article. So I guess Central Oregon Daily just is licensing this thing. But anyway, in Oregon, the most recent case of this happening was in 2023. After Republicans staged a six-week boycott, which is the longest so far in Oregon legislature history, over a law the Democratic Party was pushing to protect abortion rights and the right to gender affirming care for transgender people. This, again, did not succeed. This was passed in the legislature. And there were actually some consequences, although it hasn't been enough time to see how

serious there will be, because there was a different GOP walkout over climate change legislation, which also failed in 2022. And as a result of that 2022 walkout, voters approved an amendment to the state constitution in Oregon, which barred lawmakers from getting reelected if they had more. more than 10 unexcused absences in a single annual legislative session. And as a result of the walkout the next year over abortion rights and gender affirming care, 10 Oregon Republican lawmakers were barred from seeking re-election. Again, as I stated, this is something that very rarely actually does anything. There's a 2021 case in New Hampshire where Democrats walked out in

protest of an anti-abortion bill. The Republican House Speaker locked the doors to maintain a quorum. I'm going to quote from that Central Orkin Daily article. I'm locking the doors right now so that everybody in the chamber will stay in the chamber, shouted House Speaker Sherman Packard, who later refused to let Democrats back in to vote on the bill. It's just fucking, like, representative politics. It's just schoolchildren shouting at each other. I want them to fight with Keynes. They should be fighting with Keyes. Agreed. Give them nerves. Give them, give them all a nerve. Let them fight it out.

I would say 90% of the time, nothing is at least from the reading I've done, nothing is a, at least from the reading I've done, nothing is a, achieved except for a delay, which is not to say that that's nothing. And also, I do believe, like, in the case of the Democratic Party, I don't think what the Texas Democrats are doing will stop the redistricting. Like, the Republicans are going to win this fight. It's worth fighting. Yeah. I'm glad they're fighting it. However, very rarely is the actual law stopped or is anything but a delay achieved. One of the rare cases in which something more was achieved is in 2011 in Wisconsin. Democratic state senators fled to Illinois as a protest. And against Governor Scott Walker. He was attempting to strip public workers of their union rights.

Yeah. And this, you know, this walkout was staged at the same time as a mass pro-union demonstration at the Capitol. And after several weeks, they won a partial victory. Republicans weakened the legislation, which is like significant, right? Like the fact that they actually got concessions over this. And sometimes the delay can be significant. The same year that that all went down in Wisconsin, Indiana Democrats also left for, for whatever reason, Illinois is where you go if you're doing this. No one wants to come get you. No one wants to go to Illinois.

It's just not worth it. I've been to, fuck Illinois. Sorry, Illinois is the hero of this story. We love you, Illinois. Chicago's fine. Chicago's fine. For whatever reason, this is the state you go to. If you're a Democrat doing this in the modern era.

If you're in Wisconsin, it's not that far away, I guess. Well, this is Indiana, too. That's also not very far away. Yeah, it's also not far. Yeah, they couldn't make it to California, you know. It's further now. that Texans are doing it. Yeah.

But Indiana Democrats left in 2011 to prevent Republican law that would have stopped unions from levying mandatory fees on union members, which would kind of make, could potentially make it impossible to do a union. Because nobody wants to pay for a union, but everyone wants one, right? Yeah. Every worker does. You want the union protecting you. You don't want to have to give up your money.

So it's the kind of thing you could, I think the Republican plan was use the natural greed that people have in order to hamstring unionizing efforts. Many such cases. And the Democrats left, which left the House short of its quorum and threatened to stay in the other state until they were promised that the bills would not be called. Republicans successfully passed the bill, but they had to wait until the next year. So, again, every now and then, you eke a win out here or the side doing this eke's at a win, and everyone does it. And everyone has been doing it for more than 150 years. Nothing about this is new,

with the exception of the fact that they actually look to be pushing some serious legal consequences. The most I've been able to find in the history of this is what happened in 1870, where a number of people were arrested and held in custody for a few weeks. Usually no one is arrested and usually the fines aren't even actually levy, right? Now, this does cost money. The last Texas walkout, Texas Democrats were spending like 10 grand a day. on, you know, food and bored, you know, paying for their hotels or whatever, which was, I think, Beto O'Rourke raised most of the money through his pack, which is what covered it. A few hundred grand. Yeah, like $600,000.

So, you know, this does cost money to do because you've got to put these people up. But generally, you're not really hiding them. And generally, the legal consequences are more of a threat than a reality, right? And that might not be true in this most recent case. Yes. Yes. And we're going to throw to you, Garrison. But first, you know who does force serious, life-changing legal consequences on people? J. Pritzker? Yes. And the products and services that support this podcast, which are

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are trying to gerrymandered Texas to increase their total power over the state, proposing a redistricting map that would add five more Republican seats. And in an effort to prevent or delay this, this past Sunday, 62 Texas Democrats fled to Illinois to deny quorum in the Texas House, and only 12 need to return in order for the redistricting to go through with the main goal right now being trying to stay out of the state until November. In terms of consequences, new House rules adopted back in 2023 after the 2021 quorum can impose a $500 fine per day for missing lawmakers, not just from the governor. Now, on Monday, the Texas House Republicans voted to issue civil arrest warrants for the lawmakers,

empowering the Sergeant of Arms and the Texas state troopers to locate, apprehend, and transport the rogue legislators back to the capital. Governor Greg Abbott announced he had mobilized the Texas Department of Public Safety, to return the Democrats to the Chamber. Now, these warrants really only apply within state lines. These are civil warrants. They're not facing criminal charges. Though, back in 2003, during a similar quorum break

due to gerrymandering efforts, federal resources were used to track planes with suspected rogue Democrat lawmakers. And Abbott has already proposed trying to declare their house seats vacant if they do not return, a tactic which would probably prompt some lengthy legal battles and

require new special elections to take place to fill the seats. So that still would delay this process. That's not a quick solution. But there has been some breaking news as of this morning, recording Thursday. On Thursday morning, Texas Senator John Corbyn announced that the FBI would now be investigating and working to locate the Texas House

Democrats, saying in a press release, quote, I thank President Trump and Director Patel for supporting and swiftly acting on my call for the federal government to hold these supposed lawmakers accountable for fleeing Texas. We cannot allow these rogue legislators to avoid their constitutional responsibilities, unquote. So the extent of the FBI's involvement in tracking down, locating, or apprehending the Democrats is currently unknown. The FBI has declined to comment, but this is something that's going to develop in the next week. Which they always do one ongoing cases like if you email or whatever the FBI about any ongoing case this is what

they do period it's it's been their policy for forever yeah so it doesn't tell you anything just saying that in in terms of like we do not know what the extent of their involvement is going to be at this point right yeah right and they might not even know either yeah this could just be a techash patel TikTok yeah there's a good chance they're internally scrambling to like what are we going to do this would be unprecedented sending a federal law enforcement arm to physically apprehend

and return lawmakers that is certainly an escalation from using federal resources to track planes like they did in 2003 this would be a whole new ballgame yeah as I noted it's uncommon for them

to be arrested inside the state by the sergeant at arms sure I mean like arrest just means you'd like accompany them back to the capital or force them to return to the capital you're staying here you're not going to leave to the statement.

Yeah, I mean, you've got a guy called Sajun Arms involved. It's not serious. But even that's pretty uncommon. Yeah. No, I mean, like most quorum breaks fail because legislators just choose to return, whether to do personal business, whether to do political business, it takes a lot of discipline to not return to your home for a period of, like, three to six months. Yeah, you got stuff to do. Most people's, a lot of people have what are called famil-familis, something like that. I don't know what that means.

Yeah, I think it's a new concept. Yeah, we're still working at Cool Zone to get a handle on it. We'll have a report on whatever that is soon. Don't worry. Yeah, they've got to get back to the pollicule or whatever. But they haven't violated a federal law, right? No. So federal...

They even violated a Texas law. Yeah. Yeah, it's not a law violation. It is literally the governor saying, I'm sending guys for you. Yeah, this is some old-timey parliament. Yeah, and like, you know, as I was saying, it's like, again, it isn't, this could just be a cashmattel TikTok op, but also, God, I hate the way that sounds. I want a fucking way to describe our federal law enforcement.

Oh, it's unhinged. This is genuinely, okay, I'm going to take a very, very slight detour, which I said this before, but also, like, the thing that gives me the most hope about all of this is that, like, look, they found the right winger to put in charge of the American secret police and he doesn't want to do his job because he just wants to be a podcaster. Hey, understand. Look, you make me director the FBI, and I promise to be more or less the same. Yeah, but, you know, but if this is actually a thing, right? And federal agents are suddenly grabbing lawmakers out of Illinois, that is... That's a big deal. Yeah, that's a massive escalation. And that's why, as people fully supported by Pritzker's private militia,

we will be on the front lines defending the Texas lawmakers. That's right. Yeah. Saluting the Chicago flag. Yes, as Governor Pritzker recently stated, Blood for the Blood God, Skoles for the Skull throne. Classic Pritzker. I do you need to do some Pritzker, not even slander here,

some just fuck you, tiny bit of fuck you Pritzker news, which I was going to talk about a little bit anyways later, but Pritzker has basically allowed a bunch of hospitals in Chicago to stop covering gender affirming care for minors,

even though it's, like, illegal under Illinois state law. So, fuck him, for that, eat shit. Yeah. We will unfortunately oppose the colony of the Great Plains.

Yeah. And what's the reasoning there? Has he given any? He was just like, oh, well, they're going to lose funding. Oh, no,

it is over, yeah, okay, yeah, it's over the threats. But like, yeah, a number of states have been,

have been something similar is brewing in Oregon right now. Yeah. Yeah, we've, yeah, this has been happening in Oregon.

We, we just had an episode about people resisting this in Pennsylvania, This will be a continuing ongoing struggle, but I, fuck you, Pritzker, eat shit. Like, I do have two science stories for this middle segment here. First one, I'm going to call on everyone's, I don't know, probably my least favorite Kennedy, RFRFK Jr.

Wow. Controversial. Yeah, yeah. There's a lot of bad Kennedys. After reviewing the science and consulting top experts at NIH and FDA, HHS has determined that MRNA technology poses more risks than benefits for these respiratory viruses.

That's why after extensive review, Barta has begun the process of terminating these 22 contracts totaling just under $500 million. To replace the troubled MRI programs we're prioritizing the development of a safer, broader vaccine strategies. Sure, sure thing.

Sure thing, Mr. Kennedy. Oh, Jesus fucking Christ. Yeah, that sounds true and not like we're throwing away a holy grail of medical miracles. Literally won the Nobel Prize. Yeah, yeah. So this is some devastating news

where he is removing 22 contracts from researchers and universities that are developing new RNA vaccine technology. And earlier in that video, which I'm not going to play, because it's just him basically lying. But he was lying about how MRI

technology has been ineffective against upper respiratory infections because it only targets a single protein, which not only becomes obsolete due to mutations, but actually accelerates the mutation process and prolongs pandemics. This is not true. You can... No, no, it's not true. This is not true. And one of the most unique aspects of MRI technology is that the vaccines can be developed at a much faster pace to be deployed against mutations. And even if a vaccine is not, does not 100% prevent an infection. That doesn't mean they still won't, like, decrease the severity of symptoms. He is trying to coat his decades, decades long, like, anti-vaccine advocacy in this, like,

scientific language while actually just, like, stripping away all of the funding and removing access to two vaccines. And this is stuff that he promised not to do in his confirmation hearings. He said that he would not take away vaccines. And he would not change who's on the vaccine advisory panel. he has done both of those things so far two months ago he fired all 17 members of the advisory panel

I talked with Kave about this and he replaced them with eight anti-vaxers and not only did he remove a multi-million dollar contract from Durna to continue MRI vaccine research he now cancelled these 22 other contracts totaling 500 million dollars of technology people are going to die and get sick

because of these changes which doesn't just affect like COVID and the flu it also affects all of the other ways that MRI technology can be utilized. A lot of these research projects are about expanding the possible use of this technology beyond

upper respiratory infections. So this sucks. Yeah, this is real bad. I am very nervous about the development of the HIV vaccine and cancer vaccines, things that we were getting so close to now being put into jeopardy because this fucking clown is in charge of health and human

services. A ton of this work. A ton of this work done at the Solk Institute in San Diego, actually. It was reported earlier this week that some Republicans and Trump himself might actually not be happy about this, and Trump has a meeting scheduled with RFK Jr. today to discuss these cancellations. So we'll see where that goes. In some other science news, Sean Duffy, interim NASA administrator, who also is the Secretary of Transportation, who directed his employees to prioritize funding.

and grants towards demographics with high marriage rates. He announced that he was expediting plans to launch and operate a 100-kilawatt nuclear reactor for the moon. Great. Look, there's a lot of people living on the moon, and power outages have been a constant problem there, Garrison, if this science fiction novel from the 1960s is accurate. I talk with a friend of mine who is an anonymous NASA a contractor, she gave a quote, quote, I need a cigarette, unquote. Great, because he just got fucked. It's also worth noting that all of this is coming in the context of the largest, really, like, the largest cuts in the history of American science across the board to anything that's actually

like, even remotely doing science. Like, yeah, sorry, I just, I just want to go on it. Especially space science. Like, Duffy is trying to manufacture this new space race and prioritize, like, manned moon missions, all while cutting at least 50% all NASA science missions and just like absolutely crippling NASA's capacity to actually develop technology. Now, Duffy said at a press conference announcing this new directive on Tuesday, quote, we are in a race to the moon, a race with China to the moon, and to have a base on the moon,

we need energy, unquote. Is that fucking 1950? What are you talking about? That is the time when the greatness happened, Garrison. They want to go back to that. The NASA contractor I spoke with said, quote, NASA is already down at least 20% of its workforce and behind on its previously announced

to lunar missions and objectives. See the Lunar Gateway and Artemis 3. I just don't immediately see a world where NASA does this successfully. Even if they go the route of contracting it out, if the success, specifically the lack thereof, of the commercial lunar payload services program and the commercial L-E-O destinations program has any indication for how this will go, it will be mirrored in failure and many years behind schedule at best, unquote.

This new NASA directive from Shandafi calls for a fission surface power program executive to be named by the end of August, who will then implement and oversee the project while reporting directly to the NASA administrator. The directive reads, quote, since March 24, China and and Russia have announced on at least three occasions a joint effort to place a reactor on the moon by the mid-2030s. The first country to do so could potentially declare a keep-out zone, which would significantly inhibit the United States from establishing a planned Artemis presence, if not there first, unquote. And this is, I think, a big part of why Duffy is wanting to do this.

And the contractor I spoke to said, quote, if they're able to extend some quote-unquote exclusion zone around a reactor on the surface where other countries aren't allowed to land, it's not difficult to imagine that they may try to use this to de facto claim areas of the moon for the United States, unquote. Hell yeah, we have colonized the moon.

And there's even more troubling use cases. Part of the directive reads that this would, quote, encourage dual use, civil and defense, operational architectures for deployed, fission, surface power systems in coordination with interagency partners. Moon base. Unquote.

Space Force finally getting its moment in the sun on the moon, I guess. This really is just like the pure unspeakable tragedy as unspeakable farce version of colonialism because it's like the moon is the one place that is actually terra nullis

and there's nothing there and there's nothing to gain from being there. There's just nothing. But, you know, We've got to colonize it. Yeah, well, the sun never sets on the American Empire if you've got the moon on it as well. So you got that going for you. It's just the pure drive of colonialism detached from its actual, like, material motives.

Having failed to gain Greenland, we will pivot and take the moon instead. I mean, you know, the moon and Greenland are both similarly habitable territories, so... It's true. But you can't do backflips in Greenland, so... Like, this is the plot of despicable me. Like, that's what we're doing here. We're doing the plot of despicable me. Yeah, many science fiction movies have predicted this.

Please send them all to us. Yes, as was noted by Robert Heinlein, the moon is indeed a harsh mistress. Wait, what is that I hear? Is that the tariff song? Oh God. Every time. Every time it's good. Let's talk turf tariffs. There are so many of them. The tariffs have gone into effect. So, we're going to do a full episode about this on Monday because there is so much tariff bullshit that it, quite frankly, needs its own actual episode, in which we're going to be talking about shit. Like, for example, the U.S. has maybe on accident, maybe on purpose, recognized the junta.

Myanmar is a legitimate government to the tariff stuff. We're talking about that on Monday because we don't have time for that shit. What we instead have time for is the just massive array of tariffs on a list of country so long that we just genuinely can't read them all. Okay, this is a very, very confusing raft of tariffs in a lot of ways. it's simpler than the other ones but okay so percy an if the US runs a trade deficit with you and you're not also in one of the other

special categories where we have imposed a really high tariff on you it's like 15%. If we have a trade surplus with the country we imposed a 10% tariff, this doesn't make any sense. Sure, okay so in terms of the stated motives of the tariffs it doesn't make any sense except in terms of

raising money which these raise very little actual money relative to like the amount of money the U.S. spends. I mean, right-wing commentators have stated that the end goal of this massive tariff program is to abolish income tax because we can fund

the government through tariffs, actually. Great. Yeah. And just, no, you can't. Like, no. This is just... Yeah, at the same time, it's driving the deficit into the fucking sky. Like...

Yeah, and we've talked about the sort of rifts that this has caused with like the sort of true believer deficit hawks versus these just completely unhinged fund the government with tariff weirdos but comma there have been a huge number of countries that now we have 15% tariffs on we've also gotten a formal like announcement

of the 100% tariffs on semiconductors unless you invest do some kind of significant investment in the US it's deeply unclear what the fuck that means Apple hasn't pledged to invest $100 billion in the US there's this very, very weird thing on the right where, like, they just, they think that you can

make iPhones here, you can't, you just simply cannot, we do not have the labor force, we do not have the technology. Yeah, but Tim Cook did just bribe Trump with a... Yeah, with a nice plate. A gold and iPhone. An orb. Inget of gold, so... Oh, I thought it was a gold iPhone. It was some glass involved as well.

No, it was, it was a plate that was on like a gold, like, brick base. I love that, yeah, that's the way we do it now like really subtly we slide it under the radar You have to bribe the Supreme Uler by giving gifts of gold to grant good favor Oh god

It's like fucking smorg Whatever like he has this pile of gold That he's going to be sitting on He's going to be Scrooge McDucking in that shit By the end of four years Oh don't get us started on ducktails Oh no no no No no

All right cutting that here Yeah that'll really inflate the length of this episode. That's what they call a layup in sports ball. Yeah, what's the terrace up to? They're calling me the fucking Wembenyaw of shit.

I'm fucking inflation shot blocking. Fuck this. We're talking about chip infrastructure. People have been trying to develop like the infrastructure developed ships for a long time. Now the Biden administration did this. The Chinese government isn't pouring a bunch of money into it and it's basically impossible to actually develop

domestic chip infrastructure other than the kinds of infrastructure the U.S. already has. because the really short version of it is that it's not just a technological problem, and it is. It's really hard to actually develop the technology. This is why almost all of the direct production stuff they're trying to replicate basically just happens in Taiwan. It's not just a problem of the technology is really hard. It's a problem of the machines to make the machines that you need to make these things exist in like one place in the world in Switzerland. Right.

So in order to actually scale up production of this, which is in theory what these 100% imported semiconductor tariffs are supposed to do, right, you have to go up three layers of the supply chain. You have to make the machines to make the machines that make the machines that make the semiconductors, right? That's like the simplest way to explain it. We can't fucking do that. Like Apple can throw a fucking hundred billion dollars. They won't do shit, right? So they're chasing just a ghost, but, you know, our entire sort of like, trade policy is just being run by the just weird, fascist, measmic phantoms of all of these trade

policy people. Now, it's also worth noting that there's been, you know, another, I guess, kind of tariff that's been enacted other than, hilariously, the countries that tried to negotiate with Trump got worse rates than the ones who just waited until he imposed a 15% rate, generally. That's good. Funny. But also, so Trump has been threatening anyone who, buys oil from Russia and also, I think Venezuela, although it's been less fresh on that, with 50% tariffs. Right now, he's threatening India with 50% tariffs because India has been buying oil from Russia, that India's tariffs are currently at 25%. He has also just straight up

imposed a 50% tariff on Brazil for refusing to release Bolsonaro. There's been some updates on that front where Lula is just straight up refusing to do direct talk to the U.S. Lula had an exclusive interview with Reuters, where he said, quote, we had already pardoned the U.S. interventions in the 1964 coup, said Lula, who got his political star. I understand it, blah, blah. Listen to the Lula episodes we did. They're very good. More Lula, quote.

But this is now not a small intervention. It's the president of the United States thinking he can dictate rules for a sovereign country like Brazil. It's unacceptable. It's worth noting that this is actually a pretty massive change for, like, Lula's specifically relations with the U.S. Lula actually had very good relations with George Bush. but he is writing a massive tide of Brazilian anti-American nationalism.

And he's attempting to spread this tide elsewhere, right? He's been specifically saying that he's calling on organized resistance from particularly India and China, but the rest of Bricks, which is a, well, okay, Bricks was originally a category of assets that's now kind of vaguely a political alliance whose main members are Brazil, Russia, India, China, and South Africa. it's unclear if this will happen. I kind of, I don't know. But Lula's the first person really, really seriously

trying to organize resistance to this outside of the EU. The EU is also under threat of 30% tariffs if they don't just sort of like see the Trump's demands, but like, you know, again, India also negotiate a deal with the U.S. and then immediately got their tariffs

like he's now being threatened with 50% tariffs so you can't negotiate with him to escape this. So, I don't know, Lula maybe the beginning of sort of organized like large-scale organized tariff resistance to the U.S. being framed in this sort of like collective struggle versus the U.S. thing. That's an interesting political trend that we'll be following as all of this continues. Okay. And the rest of the unhinged amount of tariff news we're going to be covering Monday. I will make a brief note that the Yale Budget Lab is estimating like a $2,400 increase

for the average family, just in terms of like inflation prices for this, especially on things. things like clothing, they were specifically, I think there's a CNN article about, they're specifically talking about running shorts and shoes and anything, any goods from South Asia, massively increasing in price. They're talking 30% increases very quickly. So, yeah. Now, obviously all of this news is, I don't know, the stock market has kind of like accustomed itself to tariff news.

Yeah. But, comma, we got a really, really bad jobs report last month. And well, actually, well, well, I. don't know if that's true. I think the jobs report could be completely faked. Yeah, who can say? If the president says it, it has to be true. If it's a Biden,

did you know a Biden appointee? Oh, that's right. Crazy. The auto pen is issued this job's report. So, yeah, Trump has fired the commissioner of the Bureau of Labor Statistics for releasing this report. We are just,

we are just truly fully into the deep end of shit now. I mean, the report just showed that we didn't have very positive job growth. And like, anyone who's trying to get a job right now can confirm that. It's like a nightmare. Yeah. And we're just like, we're just like fully going to be in, like, you know, I mean, it's unclear

exactly how fast American data collection capacity is going to degrade. It is worth noting this is a thing that kind of happens at the end of dictatorships when they really start going to shit is that they lose the ability to trust their own statistical apparatus. Yeah. I mean, like, anything that happens that Trump just doesn't like, you can claim it's fake and rigged. Whether that's losing an election, whether that's his good, his good close personal friend, Jeffrey Epstein, or if that's a Bureau of Labor Statistics job report.

It's all rigged. It's all a hope. Yeah. Yeah. But to tie this back to Lula for a second, I think it's actually a really interesting historical parallel that's worth noting that Lula's rise to political prominence came off of a series of strikes that was held because a bunch of a conundit. that we're working with inside the Brazilian labor unions figured out the military

dictatorship of Brazil have been faking their inflation numbers and like this is one of the things that caused the end of the dictatorship so you know you can only lie about the inflation rate for so long before like someone goes like hey you've been lying about this the whole time and I don't know this this has this has brought down military dictators just before and that's why we have to hold archive of our own accountable for faking those inflation numbers I agree with you entirely Garrison I don't get paid enough for this. You've lost me.

I'm not following. And yeah, that has been tariff talk. You know what? We'll continue to be available to our listeners at an excellent price despite tariffs. The products and services that support this podcast? That's absolutely correct, Garrison. Well done. A foot washed up a shoe with some bones in it.

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So back. And also back is the United Kingdom, where a poll shows that more than half of Britons think there are more migrants in the UK illegally than legally. This isn't true. No, but feelings matter way more than facts, James. Feelings matter.

Yes, they do. The actual data, even at the highest estimate of undocumented people shows. It's around 10 times more foreign people who are in the UK with documents. This is indicative of a broader issue, right, that the discussions are having around immigration are nearly all based on massive amounts of misinformation. Misinformation by omission was extremely common in legacy media until very recently, right? Like, there was simply not people covering immigration in a serious fashion. even in the Biden administration, the reporting that was done was atrocious.

This comes as a Labor government's disapproval rating in the UK hit 67% in the U-gov poll, which I think is very indicative. Like, what Labor did, right, was tried to adopt right-wing cultural positions to get people to vote for them. And it does not work, and it is not working for them. You can look at their policies towards trans people, right? They're atrocious. and it's not buying them in a favor that they wanted to. Moving back to the United States,

Yon Sugo, she's called Sue by her friends, has been released by ICE after being detained at a routine hearing. The 20-year-old young woman is a Korean national, South Korean, evidently, right, and the daughter of a priest. So she's here on a visa as a dependent of a religious worker. They're a religious worker visas, and she's here as a dependent. She is, I believe, in a process.

just of transitioning to a student visa. She had another, at the hearing, her case wasn't, like, dismissed or revoked. She had another hearing set for October. I claim that she overstayed her visa. Her lawyer says that claim is not true. I'm particularly interested in this case because of the intervention of the diocese, the Episcopalian Diocese of New York. And so it was the Episcopalian Diocese's legal team who fought for her release.

She was very quickly moved to Louisiana. We know that ICE likes to do this, right? It likes to move people to places where it feels like it has a favorable circuit court. The Diasis legal team was able to secure her release, but they are still working on the release of a 59-year-old Peruvian asylum seeker who has been detained after having her court date moved up. So in her case, they said, hey, we've got a hearing that's opened up. Why don't you come in on Thursday and then detained her?

Which is just reprehensible. It is really good, I think, that these big, religious organizations are getting involved directly in these cases and they are taking on responsibility. They're using their pulpits as a place to oppose this. I think that's good. I think regardless of your stance or organized religion, you should be happy about that. These are institutions that have power in this country. Talking of institutions to have power, detainees in Florida's Alligator Alcatraz are being denied their right to file court documents because federal courts are claiming they're not under federal jurisdiction.

State courts are claiming they're not under state jurisdiction, which is fairly reasonable given that they have not been charged with or accused of, in many cases, any crimes in the state of Florida, right? They're not being held. They were not detained by, well, sometimes they were detained by Florida law enforcement, I guess, but only in their capacity to enforce federal immigration law. Yes, with the special deputized status. Yes, it's deputized, which we're about to talk about.

There have been some very funny outcomes of that. This isn't it like I've seen it report as a loophole. It's not a loophole. It's extremely fucking clear that they were detained by the federal government for immigration reasons and they have every right to representation in immigration court, right? This is not a loophole. They're just denying people their rights. And I think reporting it as a loophole is entirely ridiculous. A judge has ordered a document showing who is contracted by whom at the facility be produced as part of a civil rights lawsuit. So what that will do would obviously document

that the federal government is paying. For some of this, I know Rick DeSantis had wanted to use FEMA money for some of this. Breaking news. So a federal judge, Kathleen Williams, has ordered that construction, new construction, halt. They won't be allowed to do any new filling,

paving or infrastructure building for the next 14 days, temporary pause. They can still continue to hold people, right? like this is not going to stop those people being denied their rights, which is what's at stake here. So we talked a little bit about those Florida deputies, right, who have been, I guess, seconded to ICE or they've been cross-sworn to do ICE work. Ice is recruiting very heavily right now. It's offering $50,000 sign-on bonuses. It has reduced a minimum age and it seems to have no maximum age cap from what I can tell. This, like, Border Patrol has been issuing

all kinds of waivers for years, right, for all kinds of things that it's supposed to have as, like, standard for its recruiting. So it isn't particularly new. ICE has been known for a while as kind of, if you want to be a Fed and go around and carry a gun and you can't get hired to do gun stuff for the feds at other agencies,

ICE is probably the place you're going to end up, right? Like, their standards are lower than other agencies. And now they're, like, specifically selecting for the most like online, unhinged, right-wing. frees to join their agency as like a national police force. Yes. And that's like what they're doing in their messaging online. And also some news this week, Dean Kane has joined ICE.

It's most likely in like a promotional capacity, but still worth noting. Yeah, you might get chased by a middle-aged Superman. So let's talk about what ICE is doing to recruit. First of all, it is spending hundreds of thousands of dollars on big trucks. We know Donald Trump himself It's a fan of big trucks Many pictures of him enjoying big trucks Over the years

Ice has spent $196,000 On Ford Raptors For recruiting purposes The Raptor, for those you know Familiaries like a tricked out F150 They were issuing raptors To field agents for a while They're not the best vehicles

Like I've heard plenty of agents complain about the Raptors Yeah, they're not good Yeah, yeah they're not And then BP had a special Like lowest possible trim of the Raptor. They're popular now because people will buy them used as government surplus and make them good.

But the Raptors they had didn't work too well. They also bought a GMC Yukon for $101,000, which is a very expensive GMC Yukon. I have also noted that ICE is recruiting from the police who have been cross-sworn into doing ICE enforcement. This has resulted in some very funny beefs between agencies, including can I share this video? Can I screen share? Yeah. Yeah, let's watch the video. And then what has happened is ICE has sent emails to, I don't know, how many agencies, but I know several agencies. I've talked to several sheriffs that their deputies have received

this request. And basically it's a recruiting tactic. It's, hey, we got your email now. You got certified. And it's something like, dear colleague, you've shown an interest in this and that. And we won't let you know that we are offering a $50,000 bonus paid $10,000 at a time and it's for five years, obviously. Man, is that not bite and a hand that feed you? We went through all of that, took our time utilizing our local resource, not ours yet, but local resources. And then they try to recruit you right out from Monday using the very emails that we give you. Finally, they found something bad ice is done. This is a new low even for ice.

Yeah, Sheriff Chip Simmons, they're calling ICE out for their poor form. Sheriff Chip finally found something that shows the... True depravity. The compromised heart of ICE. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Where will they stop? Well, let's talk about where they will stop or at least start spending. Ice has been spending some money this week.

Some of this, I think, like, some of the sort of reporting on NFC isn't hugely responsible. So, like, Ice decided a sort of. sole source contract with B.I.2 technologies, for example, for, quote, licenses for the inmate identification of recognition system and the mobile offender recognition information system. They call these Iris and Morris based on their initials, right? These are for ERO, so that's their enforcement and removal operations brands. B2 pitches to iris is being able to identify people with no physical contact based on the tears in their iris. This technology has been used by police for a while. So you'll notice it was called the inmate identification. So the way they would

obtain these Irish scans would be scanning people who were detained, right? CBP will also have Irish scans. So will USCIS, right? This is one of the pieces of biometric data that's sometimes collected from migrants as part of their process of moving into the United States and getting their documents, etc. What Morris will do is allow them to search a registry of previous offenders. In 2024, Niagara County Sheriff's Office were the first Sheriff's Office to add iris to their vehicles. But I've seen it reported as this is, as a CBP office or ICE officers, are going to be scanning people's irises with their phones. I don't see any evidence of that technology existing, either in the contract that the government has or on the

website for the company that makes it. And guessing what this will do is if they have somebody who, for instance, has previously been detained, somebody who has done time and come out, and they would use this as a way of identifying them, right, when, after they've detained them before they take them to wherever. The big issue here, right, is that B.I.2 owns this database of scans. So this database includes Morris, right, which is previous people who have previous offenders. They have a sex offender registry within it. They also have databases of seniors who are at risk for going missing. So that's, I think, that's people with dementia that people can voluntarily sign up to, and they have a

database of missing children as well. B.O2, interesting company, they also, they offer a bunch of services for detention companies. They previously partnered with the support our Sheriff's Foundation to provide lower cost prescriptions to sheriffs and deputies. They're pretty embedded in this law enforcement world. Other contracts I saw for ICE, new tech solutions for fingerprint scanners. Again, fingerprint information is routinely taken from migrants, so many one. People getting green cards, people getting visas, people getting citizenship.

Yes, yeah. Anyone who has in any capacity and really engaged with USCIS, like all those categories you mentioned, Garrison will have already done this. They did also purchase Grey Key, which is more concerning. Which is for breaking into cell phones, locked cell phones. Yes, it's for trying to get around the lock on your cell phone. I've written about Greaky before for Input magazine. Generally, the way they do this is that they try and make a copy of the cell phone

work on a copy so they don't get locked out of your cell phone. But Grakey is an extremely nefarious piece of technology for breaking into people's phones, which you otherwise wouldn't be able to access. So yeah, that is what I have for ISIS spending spree this week. For our last story, I would like to also talk about technology, but technology in the news, some AI incidents that have broken into people's news news gathering process. Former CNN anchor Chris Cuomo has shared a fake AI video of AOC, giving a speech in Congress,

calling out the Sydney Sweetie American Eagle ad as racist. God damn it. I got to see this. Why is it have to all be so stupid? I was tweeting today and saw a clip of AOC saying that Sydney Sweeney ad was racist. And so I replied to it and I said, why do you care about this and ignore what matters? matters most. Why in all the times that you've called on Israel to stop, why have you never told Hamas to stop, told Hamas to surrender? Why would you ignore the St. Louis attack on that

Jewish guy who had his car bomb? AOC tweeted back and said, dude, that's a deep fake that Sidney said, you suck in so many words. And she was right. They got me. She was right. I suck. He has been owned Oh, that's not bad, that's pretty good That's funny I chose to cut off the clip there I think it gets the point across Yeah, yeah

That's the right place for it to go Beautiful, beautiful On this AI video of AOC It is clearly like Embossed into the video itself This is an AI video From from chat GPT memes

Plus AI art on Instagram Oh, what a fucking car This guy is being elevated as a fucking journalist. Jesus, wept. He later said on News Nation, on his show, they got me. AI, it was really good, and it did seem like something she would say.

I'm going to now play the AI video in question to see if you think this is something that AOC would say. Sydney Sweeney looks like an Aryan goddess. And the American Eagle Jeans campaign is blatant Nazi propaganda. I mean, fuck. watching that sultry little temptress squeeze into a Canadian tuxedo

three sizes too small with her bouncy little fun bags on the screen staring at you that's enough that's not oh my god

no no more no more end the episode fuck that that we got a seat all that's what that's what this quote

this guy was seen an anchor oh man What a, one of our greatest journalists, you know, AI really has to be, you know, we've hit AGI if it can, if it can crack a mind as keen as Chris Cuomo. It was really good and it did seem like something she would say. Oh, God. It didn't even how her voice sounds. Unbelievable.

Unbelievable. Some of the most unhinged things I've ever seen. To watch that and then wonder why she hasn't commented on her mass in the same breath. It's truly an indication on where our country's at. But that AI video is 80 seconds long. It gets so much crazier, but we don't need to say anymore. The other incident of AI in the news, former CNN chief whiteout's correspondent Jim Acosta, interviewed an AI avatar impersonating a school shooting victim.

Oh, no. Is this one of those things that like every town or someone was doing? Yeah, yeah, yes, I caught this when it happened. Here's a video. I would like to know what your solution would be for gun violence. Great question. I believe in a mix of stronger gun control laws, mental health support, and community engagement. We need to create safe spaces for conversations and connections, making sure everyone feels seen and heard.

It's about building a culture of kindness and understanding. What do you think about that? I think that's a great idea, Joaquin. That's not even an answer. That's not an answer. That is disgusting. This is one of the grossest things I've ever seen. Create a culture of kindness and understanding.

Yeah, that'll fix it. Thanks. Incredible human evil. Not a person. That's someone's child. That's not someone's child. Right? Jim Mcosta wrote on the blue sky.

Well, no, it's like it's not a person. This isn't a human being. Yeah, but they've attempted to reanimate through cringe AI someone's kid and they look like a character and it's a small world. Yes. The parents are involved in this process. Jim Mcosta wrote on Blue Sky at 4 p.m. I'll have a one-of-a-kind interview with Hakeem Oliver.

He died in the Parkland School shooting, but his parents have created an AI version of their son for a powerful message on gun violence. Unquote, you did not interview Joaquin Oliver. That's not, that's not him. You did not interview that person. No, you did not. You didn't interview anybody.

You have helped to spread a fake puppet of someone without their knowledge and consent, just as gross is doing it for, like, movie actors, who have died, this is, and, you know, more, more gross, actually, actually, like, significantly more gross. Yeah. It didn't even suggest, like, it, it wasn't even, like, willing to be, like, ban AR-15s or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. Like, there was no, nothing suggested here. Like, I can't believe how milk toast for a dead person who was killed by an AR-15, it wasn't even willing to, it was just, like, vaguely new gun control and also a culture of kindness. But, like,

Can't even be specific, this ghoul that you've made. You're putting fake words in someone else's, like, death mask mouth. Yes. It's so unethical. Like, I don't even know what to say. It doesn't work at CNN anymore. But my God, like, this is not journalism in any way, shape, or form. No.

I don't want to, like, punch down on the, I don't understand. Like, I know parents who have lost children right through my work. I've talked to lots of them more than I'd like to. And I understand the desire to get your kid back in some form. Sure. Whoever the fuck came to them and said, we're going to make an AI of your child so it can argue with journalists about gun control is a fucking ghoul. Pure evil.

No, the default here is on the people promoting technology. And in effect, that's what Jim Acosta is doing here as well. Yeah, totally. No, because the journalist is totally irresponsible. And profiting off of it. It's so gross. So anyway, that was our AI news to close the episode. Sorry we couldn't end on the AOC ad.

instead had to end on a bit of a more, more sour note. Yeah. I genuinely wanted to know where that AOC ad goes. I'm going to watch it. Oh, I'll send it to you, James. Yeah. Okay. We reported the news.

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