It Could Happen Here - Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #41

Episode Date: November 14, 2025

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Yeah. That's how you feel. Uh-huh. Well, the shutdown is now over, the longer shutdown in U.S. history. Last weekend, eight Democratic senators caved on the shutdown, approving a deal to reopen the government without extending the existing Obamacare subsidies, gaining only a promise to have a, Senate floor vote on health care tax credits sometime in December, with no indication given that this vote would pass the chamber and no commitment from Speaker Mike Johnson that he would hold a vote in the House. None of the Democratic senators that sided with the Republicans are

up for re-election in 26. Yeah, and I think that suggests pretty clearly that this was orchestrated and staged by the Democratic Party as a whole. You don't have, oh, we picked eight specific people you can't vote against in the next cycle. Yeah. That, yeah, it's very clearly just stage managing. Specifically, with the Schumer being somewhat in charge of the Senate, the Democrats, who likely would have been the person orchestrating this, who himself did not vote for this deal, was able to personally vote against it, despite likely being the one orchestrating

this entire deal. Yeah. Two of the senators who signed on are retiring at the end of their term. But even if we can't get health care through this shutdown bill, you know what these Democrats did, did able to squeeze in there? Well, I don't know if the Democrats squeezed it in there, but it is in there. That's a Delta 8 hemp THC ban, which is included in the Senate funding bill. Absolutely awful.

Yeah, of course they did. Boy, howdy, and the hemp industry has gotten angry about this. They're planning to fight it in 2026. I guess we'll all see because it takes a while to take effect. But yeah, that is a, there's a lot of hemp farms in Kentucky that are pissed off right now. Yep. So we can't get health care, but at least we also can't get health THHC. So what if there wasn't bread or circuses?

What would happen then? Wow. We would vote for the Democrats, Mia, because they're the least bad options. I think that's how that goes, right? I've been on blue sky a few times this week. I think I've got it pretty drilled in. Catherine Cortez, maestro of Nevada, Dick Derman of Illinois,

John Fetterman of Pennsylvania, Maggie Hassan of New Hampshire, Tim Kane of Virginia, Angus King of Maine, no King's protest member just dropped. Catherine Cortez Mosto of Nevada and Jean Chaheen of New Hampshire. Speaking of the Senate,

and the oversight committee this whole Jeffrey Epstein thing doesn't seem to be going away, does it? Man, like you, I was a skeptic about, like, could there be anything in there that's actually going to hurt Trump if he hasn't been hurt so far by everything that is out there?

And I don't know, I guess I'm still a little bit of a skeptic, but it's increasingly hard to be because, like, how much, how could it be worse than this? Yeah, there's something that, Isn't this? Has it to be worse than Donald Trump was at Jeffrey Epstein's mansion and walked into a glass door because he was so busy, ogling children. Yeah, the fact that this is what they released to distract you from the stuff they don't want to release.

Well, this was the Democrats, to be fair. Well, both. This was the emails they were able to subpoena from Jeffrey Epstein's estate as a part of the oversight investigation into the federal government's investigation of the Epstein file. Yeah. And yesterday, the Oversight Committee released this batch of files related to the Epstein investigation, mostly of note, a series of emails from about 2011 to 2019, including one from Epstein, written to Maxwell from 2011, quote, I want you to realize that the dog that hasn't barked is Trump. Victim, redacted, named victim, spent hours at my house with him. He has never once been mentioned, police chief, ETC.

I'm 75% there, unquote. In a short email exchange from December of 2018, an unknown individual sent Jeffrey Epstein. This message, quote, it will all blow over. They're really just trying to take down Trump and doing whatever they can to do that. With Epstein replying,

yes, Thicks, thanks. It's wild because I am the one able to take him down. Whatever could he mean by that? Yeah. Who knows? There's no way to tell. There's absolutely no way to tell.

If you are currently in a high school English class and people tell you you will not be able to make billions of dollars if you're unable to use grammar or punctuation or capital letters correctly, that appears not to have been an impediment to Jeffrey Epstein. Jeffrey Epstein's typing style is fascinating. It's awful. It's extremely distinctive, which I suppose is a valuable thing in itself. No, it's fascinating.

But, I mean, there's a lot of different emails of note. A 2019 email, from Epstein to Michael Wolfe, quote, Victim, Mar-a-Lago, redacted. Trump said he asked me to resign. Never a member ever. Of course, he knew about the girls as he asked Galane to stop, unquote. Which, by the way, the way that I've been seeing that quote passed around is just that he knew about the girls part, which makes it a little bit technically ambiguous

as to what he's talking about. but the second part being as he asked his lane to stop, oh, that's as blatant as it could possibly be, right? What Eppsty is saying there is really clear. The main thing that's clear from this exchange is, at the very least, the extent to which Trump was very aware of Epstein's activities. Yeah. Yeah.

Well, in which everyone was, not just fucking Donald Trump, but like the Obama White House's chief, legal counsel from 2011 and 2014, right, who he messaged with regularly and seems to have been flirting with him, right? She seems to have been into him. And they're all just kind of casually, or he is with them casually joking about, like, being a pedophile. Yeah. There's emails from Steve Bannon here, who he's just chatting with, like, he emails Peter Thiel at one point. The Steve Bannon exchange is from 2019, from Jeffrey Epstein, talking about her.

recent like state visit message prince andrew and trump today too funny another reply from epstein recall prince andrews accuser came out of marilago and response from bannon can't believe nobody's making you the connective tissue jesus christ wild uh wildly blatant stuff in exchange from 2015 from Michael Wolfe to Jeffrey Epstein. I hear CNN is planning to ask Trump tonight about his relationship with you, either on air or in scrum afterwards. Epstein replied, if you were able to craft an answer for him, what do you think it should be? Wolf responded to that, quote, I think you should let him hang himself. If he says he hasn't been on the plane or to the house, then that gives you a valuable PR and political currency. You can hang

him in a way that potentially generates a positive benefit for you. Or, if it really looks like he could win, you could save him generating a debt. Of course, it is possible that when asked, he'll say, Jeffrey's a great guy and has gotten a raw deal and is a victim of political correctness,

which is to be outlawed in a Trump regime. Imagine putting that in writing to a Gmail address. Gmail is a fascinating choice by Epstein. Yeah, yeah, right. Yeah, yeah. Also, the fact that every goddamn one of messages inns with scent on my iPad is is just constantly amusing sent on my iPhone is

a lot of these yeah they're always like two extra spaces between sentences like you can tell their old people typing on iPads a lot of the time with their fucking clumsy ass fingers yeah yeah it's beautiful it's beautiful tank size huge some really disturbing exchanges from epstein and a man named Landon Thomas Jr. With Epstein saying, Would you like a photo of Donald and girls in bikinis in my kitchen? Sure, bro.

Hawaiian tropical girl, Lauren Petrella. Epstein then sent a link displaying an image of a woman. Quote, my 20-year-old girlfriend in 93, that after two years I gave to Donald, unquote. One thing I want to note here is that Landon Thomas Jr.,

Yeah, baby. Long, time journalist at the New York Times. And he's just handed this. Financial journalist. So he couldn't do anything with it. He could do nothing with it, obviously. He's a financial journalist. He can't report on what financier Jeffrey Epstein tells him about Donald Trump

walking into a glass door because he was ogling naked children at Jeffrey Epstein's mansion. That's a thing that Jeffrey joked about to him. and the New York Times never printed. Yeah. In 2016, they had this. Yeah. Yeah. There's a tendency,

and I understand why to get sort of burned out on this, right? To be like, oh, my God, it's more Epstein news. But we should be furious about this. Yeah. This was, you know, what we have here. And this isn't even the stuff they're trying to hide, right? This isn't the Epstein files. This is just the emails that the Oversight Committee has been able to get.

Right. And it suggests, very plainly, that we are ruled by a group of pedophiles, and I refuse to call them a cabal, because cabal implies that they work in the shadows. They were not. The entire ruling class knew this was going on openly. And they're joking about it.

Yeah, they don't care. Yeah, they think it's funny. There's this exchange from 2017 between Jeffrey and an unknown individual, where Jeffrey says, you are welcome at my house always, and more private. The person responds,

very well, just send me the address again and the code to the door so I can get to the second floor. and send me the day and time. Thanks. Jeffrey said, 10 p.m. should I bring special cake from New York? The unknown individual responded, yes. And then, once they arrived, they sent the message,

quote, I'm at the door, but I will wait for my time. I don't want to come early to find Trump in your house. Two laughing emojis. 2017. Christ. Yeah. And the reason they're doing this, right? the reason they're so blatant about this reason they all think it's so funny,

the reason they're just doing this over a completely unencrypted email in a way that like someone someone planning a completely legal protest where you stand outside of a building with signs, right? Would not plan it like this. The reason they're doing this is that these people and men like them have been ruling this country for 500 years in an uninterrupted line from Columbus's fucking crew through on Hispaniola, through Jefferson and Sally Hemings, like, to Epstein. It is an uninterrupted line.

They think that they are completely invincible and that no one will ever challenge them. And, you know, maybe they're fucking right. Like for all of the sort of moaning and complaining about woke censorship and Me Too and cancel culture, these people never shot the fuck up, ever. At any point, all of these people are running around to their fucking Epstein converses, taking a bunch of money to talk about you, Jax. Well, and that's, I mean, there was some fun stuff about that in here. too, because he was emailing with Lawrence Krause, less eugenics and more hatred of women,

where, like, there were very funny emails where Krause was being like, you know, I made a comment at a speech that half of all the IQ in the world comes from women, but they're more than half the population. Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. Like a lot of just like casual, it's a really interesting insight into how people at kind of the highest levels of finance and government and just wealth in general. and media, like, communicated with each other during this period of time. I'm sure it's different now.

Yeah. Because people are even less good at writing. But, yeah, it's a useful, it's a snapshot that we don't get anywhere else of like this chunk of the, I mean, talking about that fucker at the New York Times, who, by the way, was shit canned in 2019 for soliciting donations from Jeffrey Epstein and not informing them of his personal relationship. Yeah. But, again, the Times never published anything based on their conversations. It's the same group of people who have been telling us every issue that, like, it might tangently be connected to, like, transitioning is newsworthy. And it's incredibly newsworthy if this, like, official at a college might have plagiarized

once in their childhood, or in their youth. But, like, it's not newsworthy at all to talk about. the possible future president walking face first into a glass door because he's staring at naked children in a pedophiles mansion. This is the period where they were running stories about the food at Grinnell College. Yeah. And you can, you know, and there's another, I think, part of this too, where if you look through these things, you can find these people all complaining about me too. Right. Yeah.

You can find these people all doing their sort of like, oh, these are all the same people who do all of the like, oh, like we're the bold truth tellers. blah, blah, we're being censored by, like, cancer culture. I want to take a stab at the question that you're actually not allowed to ask, you know, and what I say you're not allowed to ask is these people don't you want you to ask. All the fucking hedge fund manage, the CEOs, all the senators, all the presidents, every one of these fucking files does not want you to ask a simple question, why do we have a ruling class? Like, we gave them 500 years of running this continent.

And do you know what they produced? Again, 500 years of like uninterrupted pedophiles, right? We are on year 500 of this, from, like, Columbus to Jefferson to absin the Trump, right? So why do we have this? That's just not how people, people, no one's going to a store or to the politics store, heading out to vote and voting for another year of the pedophile ruling class. People don't really think, people don't tend to think about it that way. And in part they don't because the ruling strata of the United States has not portrayed itself in the same unbroken way.

right like it very much makes an effort not to in in in public and there's an extent to which it is it's certainly different than like the old aristocracy of the british and the landed gentry that ruled the british empire it's not exactly the same but it is like the same kind of people and in a lot of cases the same families that continue to control large amounts of wealth and inherit political power i mean there's another fucking kennedy who seems like a nice kid getting into politics just as we speak, right? Yeah. I don't know. I feel like we'll have a dedicated episode on more of the Epstein stuff. And there's an extent to which I keep thinking about that bit in the community where it's like, no one's on the other side of this issue that's listening to this podcast. Everybody's very angry about the pedophilia.

Everybody's very angry about all of this stuff. And I have mostly been interpreting it through just like laughing over the last day or two, which is bad because it's like really bad stuff. You shouldn't just do that at it. but like what else what other reactions like you can pick and choose whatever you do i think to your point mea however you react to this is not going to change anything right like so far it hasn't yeah well but i mean okay i don't think that's completely true you can watch how just like pissed off and scared these people were about like about me too right and like you can you can go

listen to ban it a couple of weeks ago talking about how if they lose the election like we're all going to prison yeah right like these people are like concerned about even like me too which was a fairly milk to like it wasn't like a particularly radical feminist movement right now and these people were losing their fucking minds about it and you know like we we have the potential to organize feminist movements that can actually do things about this shit like we are capable of building new feminist movements we did one not that long ago that was a big part of this administration collapsing the first time and we can't And do it again.

I'm not saying there's no point in fighting them. I'm just saying like your reaction in the moment to the Epstein leaks doesn't matter as much as is this going to, is this going to cause any kind of like long-term resistance to the administration? Is this going to, and maybe it will, but like I guess the thing that I'm curious about is like what, what are we doing to try and make this matter, right? because, like, that's where I am. Yeah, but the answer to the question, is this going to matter, is also something that

every single one of us decides, right? Because if we all just do nothing, then, yeah, nothing will happen, right? If we go mobilize and we go do things to resist these people, and we intensify the things we're already doing, if we start doing new things, if we start doing new sort of feminist insurgencies, right? Then things can change. But if we don't, they're not going to. going to, and we're just going to have another 500 years of these pedophiles ruling everything.

Yeah, I mean, I think that it's probably more a matter of, like, this is likely to shift more people away from the GOP, at least in the immediate future. I don't think in the long term, I don't know that you don't build a coalition off of this, because the dims certainly aren't trying to. You at least get this, like, wider awareness of where the real problem was, but I just don't know. I think it's going to be utilized electorally by some Republicans to eventually decouple the party from Trump after this becomes more and more evident and they're looking for a way to get themselves out of

becoming the Trump party and turning on him specifically through this issue will probably be one of the methods in which they do that. And you see that with some people, even like Marjorie Taylor Green and Lauren Bobbert. Yeah. Rod Dreher is writing about some stuff adjacent to this, right? These are the guys who think Vance needs to lead the party away from Trump. yeah yeah and are already viewing trump as a as a sort of lame duck presidency in so much is that

he's kind of failed to do a whole bunch of stuff especially on the economy in the past year the midterms are about to get up and running that's going to take up a whole bunch of energy everyone expects the dems to do very well in the midterms and then prevent the trump administration in the final two years from getting much of anything done through blocking things in congress yeah that's what that's what a lot of people on the far right are are like taking this situation as as basically January to now

was the second Trump administration. This is the most that they're going to get done and now it's kind of all downhill from here. And they're looking far beyond Trump now. Yes. In the heat of battle, your squad relies on you. Don't let them down.

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I am the one able to take him down. That one's from 2018. Yeah. Okay. So let's talk about, I mean, the week before the midterms and a week after midterms in terms of Times front page stories, right? The week before the midterm to 2018, the Times ran 12 stories on the quote, unquote, migrant caravan on the front page, ran 24th story. Oh, yeah. I remember that. Right. The week after it ran five, the migrant caravan continued to grow as more people around. I was physically present in Tijuana, right, as the caravan was arriving, and I continued.

need to be present for the rest of that year. The caravan continued to grow. More people continue to come, right? This is a, and a choice was made not to cover the Epstein stuff that Robert spoke about, right? A choice was also made at that time to really, like, this caravan was not huge, it was large, but it wasn't a hugely remarkable number of migrants. And it occupied 12 front page stories during that one week before the election, right? I don't know how else I can say this.

Like they're literally saying, look over there. Yeah. And I guess that's part of my, part of my fear gear is I think that is accurate as to how things are going to play out and that the dims will have a good midterm and probably pretty good results in the 2020. That's less clear to me, you know, because in part, if the dims have a really good 2026 and then things continue to get worse, maybe we'll blame the party. I don't know. Yeah. Who's going to show up on the, you know, after Trump. that that's all a little unclear.

But what worries me is that in the mix of all that, we're going to get away from, and I think this is almost inevitable, actual accountability for these people. Like I don't foresee they're being strong punitive. I foresee things moving forward, possibly in a way where they get quite a bit better, but not where I don't see the likelihood

of these people getting punished. And I don't know that somebody running in 2028 on a platform of we're going to hang these people in the street would win, but I think it's worth a shot. Yeah. Yeah. It's pretty far off. I really know, yeah, I'm not sure how much this will still be relevant by then.

I mean, after Mike Johnson for seven weeks delayed the swearing in of Arizona Representative Adelaite Grahalva, she was finally sworn in yesterday on Wednesday and became the, 218th required signature on the discharge petition to force a floor vote for the full release of the Epstein files. Johnson says this vote will happen next week. During this process, Trump held an emergency meeting in the Situation Room with Pam Bondi, Todd Blanche, and Cash Patel to convince Lauren Bobberts to take her name off the petition, which would then result in it, being complete and forcing the vote. They are certainly in a panic over this.

The whole White House team is. This morning, Thursday, press secretary Carolyn Levitt, put out an amazing post on X-The Everything app. Quote, if not for the Jeffrey Epstein story, CNN would be forced to talk about how Chuck Schumer and the Democrats got shellacked by President Trump and Republicans in the government shut down fight. It's clear this is another Democrat and mainstream media hoax

fueled by fake outrage to distract from the president. wins, Republicans don't be fooled. President Trump will remain focused on making America affordable again. If not for the Jeffrey Epstein's story. If not. If not, aren't we all saying that? If the president wasn't

a pedophile, then everyone would love him. If not for the child molestation, he'd be allowed to live in this neighborhood. So I want to mention the Megan Kelly thing in terms of In terms of Republicans reacting to this

and trying to find a way to sort through and some of them are manufacturing consent like Macon Kelly here and others I think are quite ready to just throw Trump to the wolves frankly. Yeah, there's a... So Megan Kelly, I'm not going to play the clip from you all because having to listen to Megan Kelly

is... I've listened to four hours of Megan Kelly this week, Mia. Yeah, let's know more. But she has this whole line about how she knows someone who's close to the case and has all the details and that person thinks that her exact quote is I think there's a difference

between a 15 year old and a 5 year old I mean she literally is talking about how oh he was into the he wasn't into four or five year olds he's talking about she says this and I quote barely legal types

and then she says 14 or 15 which not legal just pause pause right there 14 15 not legal I think there was a conversation to be had about the extent to which the barely legal

like just turned 18 shit is to a large extent a product of like American pedophile culture misogyny but like those are 14 and 15 year olds and this is the like you know this this is the defense of these people are are dragging out for this which is that oh well he wasn't like literal like like five year olds so actually it's like they're they're they're doing the libertarian thing it's like isn't a beophile or whatever the fuck i think a lot of this is also the

result of like the q-and-on-brained idea that like they're trafficking four-year-olds and like no this is mostly like really young teenagers that's mostly what these guys are into and Megan Kelly specifically was talking about Epstein there. It's not even really young. They're 15 to 17 year old girls, right? That's the part of the problem, is that a huge number of not just men, but largely men in this country, don't see 15 to 17 year old girls as children? Which they are. Like, that's really a problem.

Yeah. I'm thinking of an issue. It's just struck, like, just incredible structural and misogyny. That's just, yeah. And so that's what they're sort of trying to bake all of. this stuff as now, and I guess we'll see whether it works or not, just because he has been being amped up. Yeah, I don't think

this line from Megan Kelly is going to be very successful on a large scale of... But a phephephilia. I don't think it's... I don't think it's going to work. Her motivations for this are, I'm sure, not great. Now, you don't know that, Garrison. And I think in some way she is pulling from this, like, a QAnon brain idea, right?

That these are a whole bunch of, like, basically infants. Yeah. Well, what What else do you want to talk about? Let's talk about January 6th and the terrorism. Sure. I love neither of those things. Garrison, you love terrorism.

I had a fun date. No, I honestly, I had a great January 6th. That's good. That was a really fun morning for me. That was a hoot of a day. Boy, howdy. When they breached the Capitol doors, great time. Well, Windows first.

But yeah. I think you mean when the FBI breached the Capitol doors, Robert. Sure, yes. So this all takes me to the substack of a guy named Rod Dreher. Rod is, he wouldn't call himself a fascist, but if you ever bring up, is this specific fascist from history bad? He'd say, well, not compared to the communists, they stopped, right? That's the kind of conservative that Rod is.

He's basically friends with Victor Orbott. He's basically friends with Victor Orbott. Yeah. Didn't he just write a piece called Are Women Ruining the Workplace? He's written several like that. The piece I'm talking about was one he came out with on November 10th called What I Saw and Heard in Washington, and he was at a meeting with Vice President James Daryl Vance, not what his name, Stansman.

James Dolan. That's a good James Dolan. You're a real New Yorker now, Gare. Are you pissed about the Knicks permanently? No. Basketball's too masculine for me. he came out with this article about this meeting that Vance had with Victor Orban and some other Republican luminaries. And for a little bit of context, Dreher is, again, you wouldn't call him

an anti-Trumper. You'd call him a guy who thinks that Trump is going to doom the right and doom the right to fascism unless J.D. Vance can save them. He actually has a recent, his most recent column is basically J.D. Vance is the only person who can save the right wing from fascism. And he's a weird dude who like reads a lot of Hannah Arendt but absolutely does not understand her but this article of his based on this meeting is useful for a couple of reasons one that i'm sure gare and i will talk about more detail later is drer estimates in here that 30 to 40 percent of the zoomers who are working for the republican party in dc are groepers aka fans of holocaust denier and truke true yeah is that what is that what you jinsey kids are saying for truth garrison yeah that's okay

that's truth nuke. I can't keep track of that shit anymore. Truth nuke. Great. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense. Sure. Yeah, they're all gropers, or at least 40% are.

30, 40%. And I actually, number one, he, Dreher, he's not someone that I think just makes up nonsense. I think he's, like, wrong because his brain is bad. But I, he provides some backup, including interviews and conversations he had for this. And this is consistent with other information coming out of the Beltway. I think he's probably pretty close to the accurate number here, right? 30 to 40% seems believable. Gare, I think you're more or less in the same area there.

Garrison is 30 to 40% at Groyper, yes. Yes, that's what I meant, James. Thank you for the most charitable reading of my sentence there. Now, the thing that I thought was, the other thing that I thought was interesting from this article is because he's trying to talk about why the media, which he sees as an inherently left organization, even though we just talked about all of the carrying water for Jeffrey Epstein while attacking trans people shit that they did. It's a right wing slash liberal organization, I would agree.

Yeah, you have to get over some of his aspects of phrasing. But he's talking about why some of the reasons why he thinks that the institutions in our society, like Zoomers do not trust them. And this is where I think he's on the money, because I think that the reason why so many Ginzy Republicans, like Republican staffers, are. Groopers is what he gets at, which is that they're having the same problem as the rest of Gen Z. They're just approaching it from a fascist standpoint. But they all are starting from the same point, which is, I'm fucked. My generation is fucked. Yeah. There's no jobs. I'm not going to own

a house. The climate is screwed. Like, and they're blaming the Jews for it, but they're starting at the same plane. It's school shooter politics, right? School shooter politics, yes. Some people understand this and then decide to do a school shooting. These guys decide to get jobs in Washington. But it's the same psyche behind the mechanism. Exactly right. And I'm going to read a quote from Dreher's article and then we'll move past him to the primary thing I wanted to talk about here. And this is him talking about, you know, why these zoomers don't trust the system and want to destroy everything. The institutions of our society, as they see it, have lied and lied and lied and still lie. They still lie in many ways about race, refusing to be honest about black crime.

They lie about COVID. They lied about males and females and they forced the insanity of gender ideology on us all. The military lied about Iraq. The universities embrace, is it just the military? Just the military rod. The universities embraced and enforced ideologies of lies. The Catholic Church lied about sexual abuse and the connection to the prevalence of sexually active gay priests. Is that the gay? Is that the problem? Honeycoming institution. They lied about the benefits of mass migration and diversity. They lied about Trump and Russia. They sure didn't. Political parties and their corporate allies lie about what globalism would mean for ordinary people. The media have lied and they do lie about most things.

This past weekend, everybody was talking about the new report in Blaze Media, alleging that the mysterious January 6th pipe bomber was, in fact, a former Capitol police officer. The implications being that the whole event was orchestrated by the Deep State to discredit Donald Trump. Maybe mainstream media are busy trying to validate this reporting on their own. If the Blaze has this wrong, they're going to be suited to oblivion. And so will all the other media who amplify a false charge. I can tell you that no, all I can tell you is that nobody in the MSM are talking about it as I write it, even though it is an explosive story.

People were, in fact, talking about it. Yeah. And in fact, before we could do this episode, the bulwark, which has both a website with articles and is a podcast network, came up with an article by Will Somer, who used to write for the... He's a good journalist. Yeah, good journalist. We took a Bellingcat class together, I believe it was the post that he wrote for at the time.

He was like one of the leading Q&N experts for years. Yeah. He was doing Daily Beast wasn't for a while. Yeah, Daily Beast is, I think, where I knew him from. and he wrote a really good article called The Blaze's Pipe Bomb Bombshell appears to Bomb. And basically, Dreher says here, well, if the Blaze is wrong, they'll be soon to oblivion. And the short answer is, yeah, I think they have to be. Because they absolutely named this lady in the Capitol Police to make a long story short,

if you don't want to read the whole Blaze article. You can read the piece on the bulwark. You can read the sections of it. Or you can type the link to the Blaze article into like Archive.org so you don't give them traffic if you want. It's not good. It's the entire, their entire claims that this particular woman, and I am not going to name this woman because I don't think she's the bomber. And I don't think you should name people as being a terrorist if you're not sure they were. I will say that she's a woman and that she's a capital police officer, or at least now a former capital police officer, who is

kind of insinuated by the blaze and has been absolutely taken up by the right wing media immediately sense to be a now she got poached by the CIA right and that's taken as like proof that she definitely did this she's a security guard at the CIA's office she's she's not in the CIA I'm sorry guys she's a she's a rent a cop for the CIA which is let's be fair probably the highest rung of renticop sure like you know you're taking a step up as a rent a cop but she's not she's not out there overthrowing democracies yet um i don't know maybe they fast track you once you're let's see security can i don't know but so the the whole claim that the blaze is staking the reputation on because if you're not paying attention to like info wars well not reputation they're financial

solvency because info wars currently owes like a billion and a half dollars for wrongly accusing people of having faked mass shootings and the deaths of their own children so Their argument that this lady has to be it is based on they have some old footage of her, like the jogging track, and there's a couple of clips from the jogging trap they showed, but they're claiming that this gate analysis that they did between the Capitol bomber and this woman is based on footage of her that they are not publishing publicly. That's good. So that you can verify it, but that they say is 94%. And they talked to a gate analysis expert, and he did a personal gate analysis, and he said it had to be more like 98%. So that means basically it definitely was her because gate analysis is for sure real

and not one of the every kind of forensic science is a lie, lies. Gate analysis is not even very good for buying shoes, let alone convicting someone. We have peer review data to show that you shouldn't use your running shoes of gate analysis, let alone fucking... Yes, yes, there's many articles about how it may not be the future of the shoe industry.

You certainly shouldn't be hinging your publication survival. I'm getting right that somebody was a bomber. This is just the latest attempt by the right to run this whole J6 false flag conspiracy, which is picking up a lot of steam. Like a few months ago, the FBI released some information on how many agents they had in the area during January 6th. And this led many, many conservative commentators to, leave, oh, look, the FBI just admitted

that it was their agents that actually started the riot and was most of the, like, rowdy, rambunctious crap members. And no, the specific wording on the announcement or statement regarding the presence of agents at J6 was after, after the insurrection

had already started, and agents were sent there to keep it under control. That's what it was referring to, and Cash Patel released a statement days later, clarifying this, but of course that doesn't pick up nearly as much traction as the original claims were. So this whole gate analysis thing is

continuing on this this whole conspiracy theory about how the FBI and the CIA staged all of January 6th to crush Trump and remove him from power. And probably warns a future episode just on January 6th conspiracy

theories that have propagated the past few months. Yeah. Yeah. We probably, I mean, honestly, yes. But okay, to continue with this. So gate analysis, was half of what their case lay on. The other half of the case

was interviews with a couple of different people, primarily an FBI whistleblower, a former FBI agent who made a claim that like, yeah, we tied the woman, this officer's neighbor to a vehicle that, like, picked up the bomber.

This is not based on publicly available information. This is based on the statements made by former FBI agent, Kyle Serafim, who is now a right-wing media personality. Of course. And we're just trusting that this guy who is former FBI agent trying to rebrand himself as an influencer is telling us the truth about all of this stuff that they're not presenting us with. This is this is kind of dressed up as OSENT, but they're not actually providing you with the information. No, there's no actual open source intelligence.

You can't work back from there, because they're hiding a lot of stuff, right? There's a couple other things that Somer notes in his article here to make their case against the former Capitol police officer. Baker, who's the author, and co-author Joseph H. Hanaman, focused on a comparison between the officer's gate, some of which was apparently captured in years-old footage of her playing soccer and footage of the pipe bomb such from the night of January 5th. Instead of using suspect footage released by the FBI, however, the Blaze claims it used footage from another source.

The article doesn't name. Critically, the Blaze didn't release an actual video comparison or significant details of the gate analysis. Instead, it draws on the work of a man the Blaze called a video sleuth, a little-known ex-user named Armitas, whose online profile image is a picture from the 1998 role-playing video games, Zeno Gears. Hell yeah. Xeno Gears, great twinks in that video game. Yeah, you're not going to get sued into oblivion for this shit the blaze. I'm proud of you guys.

I can't believe if the people who published Vance Bolter's probably last interview would do this. Yeah, shocking, shocking stuff. Now, to be, again, totally fair here, Dreher does not treat this with any sort of critical thought whatsoever, but actually a bunch of the people critiquing this have been on the right? And I, where I partially agree with Darius, I think it's a mistake that the mainstream media has not dedicated more effort to busting this immediately and to pointing out the weaknesses and stuff like gate analysis immediately out the gate. So it does kind of seem like they're ignoring it. I think they're largely, I think largely this isn't getting covered because it's so shady and bad and because it's dangerous to spread these kinds of claims

about a person. Sure. I mean, yeah, it's like, it's like the blaze. It's not, it's not even Fox News, right? There's already law enforcement stationed outside this woman's house because of the number of threats that she's right. Like, again, there's, she has ample claims for damages here. Yeah. Yeah, so a couple of the people who have come after, one of them is, or after this article, one of them is

Julie Kelly, who's a right-wing media figure and is a major, like, force in the January 6th conspiracy theory world. And she is largely attacking the blaze because she's doing her own investigation into the who did the pipe bombing right so she's she's pointed out some very obvious problems why don't you post that other video you have right why don't you show the evidence of the gate analysis right so she she's been attacking this as has joe hoft who's co-founder of the gateway pundit hell yeah oh god yeah it great stuff so there's there's people on the right

talking shit about this stuff it's worth noting that when this initially came out glenbeck spent days beforehand, hyping it up and talking about how, like, this is the biggest, I think that he literally called it like the biggest conspiracy in American history, maybe, which like, Jesus Christ, dream smaller. Come on, dude. Yeah, but within like a day of the article actually coming out, the blaze added an editor's note. But, Mr. This is wrong.

Which is pretty damning. An earlier version of this story said it appeared the bombing suspect interacted with police. After publication, a congressional investigator with access to a camera angle that has not been made public reached out and told Blaze News a person similarly attired to the suspected bomber who comes out of the alley and crosses the street towards the two capital police vehicles is not the same person as the hoodie-clad pipe bomb suspect walking out of the alley just minutes earlier. Amazing. Wouldn't their gate analysis have shown that? Amazing work.

Wouldn't you have known that if gate analysis was real? It's almost like you can't rely on gain analysis to identify individuals. Yeah, it's almost like this is all bullshit. shit. Anyway, I largely did this just because fuck you, Rod Dreher. We covered this stupid-ass story. Will Sommer covered this stupid-ass story, and we

made fun of it. Thank you, Will. Thank you the bulwark. This is what I've got. I've done. That Drear piece is also crazy and just surreal because of how much of it is like talking about how we, as in the right, needs to like, re-

recalibrate how we discuss the reality. of like complete Jewish control over our media and how it's fine actually because a whole bunch of various like ethnicities excel in various fields and that's not weird so it's not weird that Jews control all the media we shouldn't be worried about this and how how much of that piece feels like it could have been written in like the 1920s yes it's it's a it's a crazy time capsule yeah anyway that's my opinions on the drear substack piece anti-semitemitism versus anti-Semitism. It's a great time.

I mean, sure. I mean, you could have a, I would have a slightly more complicated analysis of the piece than just anti-Semitism because true approaches that issue really oddly. I don't think he's anti-Semitic, frankly. I don't think he thinks he's anti-Semitic. I don't think he thinks he is, yeah, but it's like, I think that there's a difference between what he believes about himself and what he's trying to do and what he is doing. And, yeah, sure. I mean, I mean, even in the way the article's written and like a lot of it is yeah I mean attacking a certain type of anti-Semitism on the right

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kevin on stage on the iHeart radio app apple podcast youtube or wherever you get your podcast all right we are back and we're going to do some very brief immigration stuff and then we'll play the song you've all been waiting for and be able to talk to you the united states conference of catholic bishops based based based yeah thank you gear uh if you do a statement this week it's about the strongest condemnation you're going to see from this entity of of anything in a political realm, right? Pope Leo has not been solved on this issue. No, yeah, he is, and like we saw it, like with Bishop Farm in San Diego, right,

like who himself arrived as in what they call an unaccompanied minor, right, a child refugee. I'm going to read from the statement, quote, we are disturbed when we see among our people a climate of fear and anxiety around questions of profiling and immigration enforcement. We are saddened by the state of contemporary debate and the vilification of migrants. We are concerned about the conditions in detention centers and the lack of access to pastoral care. We lament that some immigrants in the United States have arbitrarily lost their legal status. We are troubled by threats against the sanctity of houses of worship and

the special nature of hospitals and schools. We are grieved when we need parents who fear being detained when taking their children to school and when we try to console family members who have already been separated from their loved ones. This isn't a usual... Beast, beast, beast, beast, beast, beast. Garrison has got a crucifix, I guess. They haven't done this for like 12 years, right? Last time they did it about contraception. I'm not saying a Catholic church is an organization that I agree with all the time. It's not. It's one that I disagree with most of the time. But I still think this is important, right? Like, this is an organization which has millions of followers in the United States, many, many Catholics around

the world. A lot of Catholics. Yeah. This is an organization which therefore we should pay attention to, right? And I think it is telling that, yeah, the Woke Pope has not stopped with this and that it seems like the vast majority of bishops in the United States are on his side. No, it's, it is, it is pretty funny. We have like a never-trumper nominally conservative woke pope. Yeah. And the fact that he will not black down on this issue and has actually has a number of statements on this the past the past few weeks. And not softly worded statements either. Catholic priests have also been reasonably good on this issue. Yeah. It's important, especially, because of how much

these, like, weird, like, fascist-friendly trads are using Catholicism as, like, a fashion statement. Yeah. And J.D. Vance included. Yeah, it's going to say, I'm vice president. To have the actual church be, like, pretty freaked out by that, um, I think is good. It'd be worse if they were leaning into it, which certainly some, some cardinals, like, want, uh, when they were doing their like Pope's election. Well, if you look at the votes in this issue, right, like 216 votes in favor, five against and three abstentions.

So among bishops, which is distinct from cardinals, like this is almost universal, right? And yet, given that our vice president has made being an adult convert to Catholicism, a large part of his personality. Embarrassing. Yeah, this is, like, it is remarkable. It's worth paying attention to. Also, I think when I talk to migrants, specifically, like, when I was in the Gary and Gap talking to migrants, their faith is massively important to so many.

Totally. And a lot of people, especially coming from South and Central America, will be Catholic, right? And that is what propels them through. And so for them to feel that the church has not abandoned them, it is important to them. Yeah. The thing when I speak to people now who are here, the thing that they want more than anything is a priest to come to their hearing, to their meeting with them. That is what makes them feel safe.

and so I am happy that the church is continuing to try and make them feel safe because yeah what what else are you going to do right yeah we're trying everything else and it's not working yeah i i defer to what will make the person being victimized feel better in basically all instances and if it's having a priest along then i'm glad the priest is there yeah and i am happy that this is something that can make them feel safer because you know critical support to the catholic church yeah yeah very critical yeah one Well, emphasis on the critical part. I think the other thing is worth noting that this same conference also voted to have an official ban on any gender affirming care at Catholic hospitals, which is like one in seven of all people in the U.S.

get their care at Catholic hospitals because there's a million of them. Critical support. Yeah, like lots of, they're not. Yeah. Look, they're no Protestants, okay? It does feel bad to have so much Catholic praise on the show. But, you know, I will swallow my Protestant prize here. Yeah, I'm neither a Catholic nor a Protestant, but I'm glad this is happening.

You're British, though. So we straddle the two. Do we do Catholicism without popes? I think we should have popes without Catholicism. See, that's interesting, Robert. That's an interesting idea. That's Discordianism. Oh, yeah.

Well, yeah, that's kind of the least interesting version. a real kind of non-Catholic, like, clerical class. Anyway, I'm going to put this down in my sci-fi novel folder. You know, isn't stockbrokers a forum of, you know, aren't... Just fade them out. Fade them out. Adam, just gradually reduce the volume. Okay, we're going to go.

We're back to immigration. We did learn this week that the Department of Homeland Security secretly and illegally kept domestic data on 900 Chicago land residents under Biden. just in case anyone was wondering what they were doing before people started paying attention to them. They also, quote, irrevocably destroyed video from inside of the Broadview, which is Icelandian facility in Chicago land.

Yeah, of course they did. I'm not shocked by that, I will say, like, I would have been shocked if that had happened under a previous administration, put it that way. Like, it's not massively out of character for them to be incompetent at soaring and this kind of thing. And Ken Paxton has attempted to sue, Harris County, a place in Texas for donating to non-profits to provide legal aid to migrants.

He has some justification to this, which is Leodicrous, but I'm just going to name a few of the NGOs here. Galveston, Houston Immigrant Representation Project, Kids in Needed Defense, Justice for All Immigrants, But Aises, and Baker Ripley. Yeah. And this does, I think, show part of this strategy. strategies, which we saw, and we have seen since 2018, right? Like, you'll remember that lots of NGO volunteers in 2018 were placed on a watch list,

as were many journalists for crossing to cover the migrant car event. But this idea that the NGOs are, quote, aiding and abetting is a phrase you always see, right? Like, that somehow people would come here if it wasn't for NGOs. Often this takes on a specific form of blaming one NGO, which is highest or he us, Hebrew immigrant aid society right and we saw you a one guess as to why they blame that one yeah it's like repeat guest of the show anti-semitism coming back again yeah which resulted directly in the in the tree of life shooting right like this is of that same intellectual family of thought I guess is what I will say it's ludicrous people come here because their lives are not livable

where they're at there that's all they go play play the song Rocky Casma Rocky Casper Terry is the Lackett Rocky Casper All right So there is actually a surprising amount

of tariff dues All right The tariff rebate checks Are we getting tariff rebate checks? I think probably not So what is this? Trump started talking about

this on November 8th on true socials per the QSA today. He trothed. I refuse to call it truth. I am recommending to Senate Republicans that the hundreds of billions of dollars, the hundreds of billions are capitalized for reasons that are baffling, currently being sent to money-sucking insurance companies in order to save the bad health care provided by Obamacare be directly sent to the people so that they can purchase their own health care, their own much better health care.

And so originally this was going to be like a $2,000 thing to your health savings account from tariff proceeds or something. And then the second time he stopped talking about the health savings account stuff and he was just saying a $2,000 check. The USA Today, the piece notes that the secretary of the treasury, Scott Bessett, said in ABC News on November 9th, which was Sunday, that Trump's proposed tariff dividend, quote, could come in a lot of forms, adding, it could just be the tax decreases that we are seeing on the president's agenda. No tax on tips, no tax on overtime, no tax of Social Security, deductibility of auto loans, he said. So those are substantial deductions that are being financed to the tax bill. So he apparently hadn't heard any of this, is what it seems like. And then a few days later, this was yesterday on Wednesday the 12th, Caroline Levitt, who's the ghoulish press secretary, said that Trump is, quote, committed to the payments. So who knows?

You can't call her ghoulish just because she's a 27-year woman who looks like that, Mia. That's not cool. Hey, you know, we're not going to do this. But she, no, she is ghoulish not because she looks like she's 40. And she does look kind of, she looks like a ghoul is why she's Jewish. No, but like she also acts like a ghoul constantly, which is the actual thing that she is ghoulish for, right? Every press secretary I've ever seen has made me so mad. the job of a press

secretary is infuriating yeah remember the sarky bombs well also like they've never been good they also did used to be more normal than this like they didn't used to be this unhinged yeah the Biden admin didn't bring them back I feel like the first Trump had been moved

them in a certain way the Biden admin people were on hinged too it's just awful terrible stuff didn't used to be like this one of the few things I'll ever say that anyway as you were saying yeah so so she said that Trump is committed to the payments i again i don't think we're going to see this probably not definitely don't plan on having an extra two thousand dollars well i think he's i think he's committed to the payments

as much as he is like first or second wife yeah which is not much so the the second the second incredibly important piece of tariff news is the pasta tariffs um the department of of commerce is proposing a hundred and seven percent pasta tariffs on imported italian pasta no no ho ho ho ho Garrison, it's fine. Macaronian cheese is still available. You can still get your Mac. You know, it's okay. As the Guardian points out, most pasta in the U.S.

is made in the U.S. So it's not really affected by those tariffs. Not the ones I buy. Well, hold on, hold on. Let me, allow me to finish the sentence, Garrison. I will address your concerns. Oh. So it's mostly just gluten, it's mostly gluten-free pasta

and also, like, imported fancy pasta, which is, like, nice pasta. Well, fancy is a bit of a stronger, okay? It's, like, $2 more, okay? Yeah, it tax on pretension. You know, and so this, but this sucks for people who like pasta that's good, and also for people

who are allergic to gluten or who just are trying to reduce the amount of gluten they're eating for, like, diabetic reasons, et cetera, et cetera. That all really sucks. In that same piece, in that same guardian piece, the unbelievably named Scott Ketcham,

who is the fact, of like an artisanal artisanal Ketchum's a real last name that's why the Pokemon game is believable. Ketchum's a person I know. Scott Ketchum. I don't understand why Ketchum

is funny. Why is Ketchum funny? Did you not play the Pokemon? Is you too No? Also it's so close to being ketchup and I think about Okay. Think about Italian pasta, whatever. Okay, you put ketchup on Italian pasta. Interesting.

No. But do you know, do you know who does do this? Chinese hotels in 2009, a thing I discovered when they, for some reason, fed us, tried to feed us American food instead of feeding us Chinese food. And dear God, awful. That's sweet. That's my favorite thing in any foreign country is when they're like, I know what you want. American food. You came to Greece to eat at TGI Fridays, didn't you?

Burger is all over Berlin. Well, burgers than your rage. Burger's not American. Burger's the world's food. It is now. I feel like he'd be disappointed, Garrison, if you knew how many people in continental Europe are eating pasta and ketchup

on a daily basis. We used to ground sugar on it. Europeans are obviously sick. You've been to Belgium. That's wrong. I have. Yeah. There you go. Okay, locking back in on the posse care of...

The anarchist cafe was closed. It was 2 p.m. those lazy fucks. Look at the conditions that I have to do with. Every time I mentioned inflation, out got the inflation jokes. Every time I'm trying to finish it as well, pasta. God.

Okay. Finishing this. Scott Ketchum agrees that the manufacturers will quote, take advantage of the news and slightly raise their prices. That's just business,

he said. So this actually probably will increase pasta prices across the board because they'll use this as justification for raising prices. Canonically, how old is Ash Ketchum?

I'm trying to work out of this as a sibling since... I think he's like 12. 13 in 1997. He's been like 13 for... No, but he's been 13 for his entire life. So we can think siblings more than parents. Jeffrey Epstein's dream.

Yeah. Okay. Ash Ketchin's brother, put it in the law. Oh, my God. Okay, okay. Two more things. Two more things we got to get there. I swear to God.

Okay, one, 50-year mortgage. Trump has become obsessed with the idea of 50-year mortgages. Just, an idea is so unhinged. I have even seen any Republicans talk about it positively. The mortgage industry is like, don't do this. this is a bad idea. I'm not going to read the full paragraph I had here from CNN, but CNN did a very basic calculation of instead of a 30-year fixed mortgage,

a 50-year fixed mortgage. So basically their calculation on like a $450,000 house was that you would save about $300 a month technically, but over the course of the loan, instead of spending about $550,000 in interest, you would spend a million dollars in interest. Fantastic. That rules. That's how we save money by giving half a million dollars to the bank.

Well, hey, you're not even talking about the 15-year auto loans. Yeah. It's insane. Everyone who buys a Kia can trust that it will keep working for 15 years. He's going to say, he's driving. This houses aren't lasting 50 years. They're made of, like, cardboard. Right?

Like, they're just kind of terrible. You're paying more than twice the value of the house in interest. Yeah. Make America affordable again. Yeah. It's unbelievable. And then finally, I want to close with what is actually going on with the jobs and inflation numbers for October because I think people are getting a lot of very bad information about this. I mean, and it's not their fault. It's again because the Democrat shutdown made it impossible to get any reliable data. So now we can never have data ever again. Yeah. So, okay, okay. So let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's let's what is actually going on here. So on Wednesday, uh, Caroline Levitt said that we might not ever get October the October of jobs and inflation data. Oops. Oops. So, however, comma, I'm sure this numbers would have been fine, comma.

The spirit Halloween bump would have been huge. Comma. On Thursday, National Economic Council Director Kevin Hassett, who, by the way, is the guy whose whole thing is that he wants to impose taxes on holding U.S. bonds, the worst. Maybe the only idea I've ever seen. Well, I don't know if it's actually worse than a 50-year mortgage. Astonishingly bad ideas. But he said on Fox News, this is today as day of recording.

said on Fox News that we're going to get some of the data. But the data we're supposed to get is very weird. Now, so the September data we're supposed to get next week because that was already recorded before the government shot. Right. Yeah. And there is legitimately, even in a sort of not, if a normal Bureau of Labor Statistics was trying to get these statistics out,

it would be a little difficult for them. However, comma, we're only getting the jobs added numbers and not the job loss numbers. Oh, no. Good vibes only. What a great strategy. So, yeah, I'm sure that number is fine. I'm sure it's not negative 70,000 jobs or something.

Yeah. Right. And, you know, apparently that's because the survey, the collected information never went out. And I mean, it probably didn't because of the shutdown, but also, like, you could, you could work this out. They're just not doing it. We talked a few months ago about Trump's attempt to take over the Bureau of Labor

Statistics, which with his attempt to, to install the hideously incompetent Heritage Foundation Economist, and I use that term very loosely here, E.J. and Tony, and Trump was actually forced to, like, pull back on installing this guy as a head of Bureau of Labor Statistics. So it's being run by the interim head and has been for a long time now. But it seems like, A, there's conflicting information going out, and B, it does seem like Trump has been able to get a decent amount of control

over the Bureau of Labor Statistics, which is supposed to be a nonpartisan body that just releases the data, because everyone in the entire capitalist economy relies on it and it is possible that this is that that we have already gotten our last unrigged like bureau labor statistics reports i mean i can't confirm that they're straight up breaking it and it's also possible that oh well this wasn't the product of that and we are going to get some of the data like we are supposed to get inflation numbers um but it's not good oops well to end on some good good news

I guess. On Monday, the Supreme Court rejected a call to overturn, or here its previous ruling on legalizing same-sex marriage nationwide. So this is where they're drawing the line right now is this. I think I did predict this a few months ago in which people got a little bit mad at me for saying that I didn't think they were going to pick this one up. Another W in the garic column. But I think it is fairly interesting that this is the point in which they're like, nah, nah, it's not worth it. Like this, this is more settled to them than even the abortion thing was, I think, I think some of the general economic issues shows that there's not a real desire for pushing on this right now based on, you know, gestures broadly at other economy stuff.

And some of the, some of the anti-woke fuel may be, maybe running out as the, as the economic situation becomes more and more. Dyer. Dyer is a good word. How much longer can the Republicans just scream about trans people as they're ruining the economy? Do you think that's going to still work for them in 2026? Maybe not.

They might be scared that they've put all of their eggs in this whole anti-wook culture basket and now that they're in charge and the country's still getting worse, they're like, well, I wonder if we can replay that card again or not. As a final economy note, I want to note that SoftBank sold all of their shares

in NVIDIA $5 billion of Nvidia share Don't worry about it It's part of regular Stock rotation It's fine These are the

Biggest Roobes Who have ever existed Have gotten rid of all Of shits These are These are the WeWork Guys These are the guys

These are the guys The bag For Wework Yes Which I mean Does that mean That they're Getting out

Too early Of AI Or does it mean that they're hesitant they're gun-shy enough that they got out just in time we'll see who can say yeah all right we reported the news garrison i'm stealing your line this week why we all stole that line from a terrible man you haven't seen the newsroom it's stolen valor yep great show i would love a news season of the newsroom where he works for some like bullshit like internet news company he's like he's like a sub stacker and he has like a home studio oh oh he does it's top 10 list

constantly yeah god i would love that he and he's like he's like he's super big in it but they don't ever make a direct point of it it just becomes like subtly caught obvious that like oh wow this this is a guy who's bought into some weird conspiracy theories sure i i was thinking because i mentioned it came out the same year as true detective i would like a new season of the newsroom that's a crossover with the first season of true detective where we get we get Woody Harrelson and we get that British lady all all in the same room together it'll be great they would be a nasty combo imagine how much fucked up shit they could get up to it would be awful it would be awful hell yeah well we're not even on the air anymore oh no we're still on the air

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