It Could Happen Here - Executive Disorder: White House Weekly #9

Episode Date: March 28, 2025

Verify your signal number! The gang talks about anti-genocide protesters being hunted by ICE, an update on the rendition of Venezuelan immigrants, and how a journalist learned about airstrikes in Yemen from a Trump admin group chat. Sources: https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2025/03/trump-administration-accidentally-texted-me-its-war-plans/682151/ https://www.cnn.com/2025/03/26/politics/the-atlantic-publishes-signal-messages-yemen-strike/index.html https://www.congress.gov/crs-product/IF12581 https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/cbp-9930/ https://x.com/presssec/status/1904875629612331123?s=46 https://t.co/JYbx0FtHc9 https://x.com/kyledcheney/status/1904884072763044089 https://t.co/kOhUqcypOJ https://www.cbsnews.com/news/trump-administration-deportation-flights-el-salvador-doubles-down/ https://t.co/eFo00blJBh https://x.com/David_J_Bier/status/1904526812434084143 https://truthout.org/articles/tufts-student-activist-rumeysa-ozturk-abducted-by-ice-on-her-way-to-iftar/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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I'm Garrison Davis. Today I'm joined by James Stout and Robert Evans. Yeah, you are. This week, we are covering the week of March 20 to March 26. Short week because we did a late recording last week. Yep. We did. So it's minus one day if my math is correct.

It's been a hard week for many of us because we all really care about group chats and group chat security is super important to kind of anyone involved in politics. And whenever we see a breach of this magnitude, it's really a warning and like a threat to all of us. So it has been a tough week. Yeah, like a threat to one is a threat to all. So like the way I see it, any group chat that gets compromised.

First they came for Huthy PC's fall group. That's right. Next they're gonna come. Could be any any of us could be any of us Jeffrey Goldberg could be lurking in your Small group that's you and your girlfriend talking about what kind of pizza door he could be there reporting for the Atlantic You wouldn't know unless you like looked at who was in there and saw his name Then you would know which is true of all of the people in the Whoopie PC small group. I guess it is actually pretty easy. You don't know.

Maybe Jeffrey Goebbels' signal name is like CIA super spy or something and everyone just assumed he belonged there. I'm going to start at the beginning because I do assume that actually, as impossible as it sounds to those of us who wake up and imbibe fucking social media in the morning, like an addict takes their first hit of crack cocaine, but in a way that's less healthy for both our hearts and our brains. A decent number of people who listen to this podcast

have just kind of like heard vaguely, like some bits about this. Yeah, they're wondering what the fuck we're talking about. What are you doing? What are you guys doing this? So we're gonna talk about this group chat. So first off, couple of basics. So we're going to talk about this group chat. So first off, couple of basics.

So signal is an app that is end to end encrypted. That means that if you have signal and your buddy has signal and you're messaging each other, it's encrypted and it is very hard at this point, unless one of your phones is directly compromised by a non-state actor or an ex who's really good with computers, no one else can see what you're messaging each other. So if you and a friend are like planning what to order on fucking Grubhub tonight when you go play Super Smash Brothers or whatever, you can keep that secret. Or if you and a friend are planning what substances to buy that the government might not want you buying, you

can keep that secret. Or if you and your friend simply don't want various media companies taking every detail and phone carriers, taking every detail of your life's conversations and turning that into analytics data, you can stop them from doing that. And if maybe one day you might be engaged in speech that the government might not like, you can continue to engage in that speech privately without danger. Or with less danger. Yeah, with as little danger as it is possible to do. Especially if your messages automatically explode after anywhere between five seconds to one week.

Right. Which is a feature Signal has. Yes, you can automatically set it to delete stuff over a period of time. You want to, if you're going to use it, turn off the thing where it like pushes messages so that you can like see on your locked phone. Visible notifications. Yeah, turn them off because that's a, that'll fuck shit up. Because then your operating system can read the messages without the encryption. Yeah.

Similarly, never open a QR code. This is the, really the only way that signal can get compromised on like scale right now beyond beyond physical infiltration, right? Like what accidentally happened with Huthy PC Small Group. But the main other way that signal can get compromised is through malicious QR codes and unknown links. So really be careful about links as always on the internet and especially be skeptical of QR codes. Yeah, there's a quote from Herman Gering. I think it was from Herman Garing. When I hear the word culture, I reach for my revolver. And I have adapted that Garing quote to the modern era.

When I hear QR code, I reach for my Glock 19. That's right. Do not use QR codes. Yeah, the work of Satan. Let's explain what Whoopi's PC small group is for the people. I'm getting to it. So you've got this app, which is normally used by and has been used for a long time by like protesters and dissidents and journalists to communicate with sources because it's very secure. The Trump administration takes office.

One thing that they are annoyed about is that when you are government employees, even if you're doing top secret shit, especially if you're doing top secret shit, the kind of meetings about national security planning for like military actions that you are supposed to only have in something called a skiff. And a skiff is basically a room in, you know, the West Wing, I think, or the Pentagon, right? I'm not 100% sure where all the skiffs are, but it's like a room that is incredibly secure and it is the only place that you are supposed to have certain kinds of Conversations yes, and in fact if you are having one of those kinds of conversations in a skiff No one not even the president or the vice president is allowed to have a phone in there It is a very strict rule. You don't take phones into the skiff because none of them are fucking scared

Now the problem is all these communications all of this stuff is documented and potentially foyerable. Maybe not immediately because there's always security concerns. They have the ability to redact stuff. But in 20 years, perhaps. But at some point... Yeah, it might be archived even if it's not foyerable. People who are in charge of our military now didn't like that and were like, hey, what if we all just did it through a single group? And they did to plan for an attack that started March 15th

against the Houthis. Now you will remember the Houthis from the episode James and I did. I mean, from other stuff too, because they're all over the news. Yeah. From, you know, the Houthis. The Houthis stuff. James and I did an episode recently about a regular naval warfare and you check it out. That's all still pretty relevant. Better known for their other work. Yeah, better known for their other work. The Biden administration was like, we can probably take care of these guys with airstrikes. And it didn't really work. And the Trump administration was like, we can do a better job of taking these guys out with airstrikes. And at this point, it's

too early to say if it worked or not. But I'm gonna guess probably didn't probably not just generally given the history Maybe but they say they killed a lot more high-value targets and top missile guys main missile guy quote. I don't know I'm not I don't know. I'm not privy to the information They're working off of or how much it matters at this point, right? So we'll see you you're not in that signal chat, Robert I'm not in that signal chat. They have not accidentally added me. I'm in too many signal chats, frankly. Yeah, yeah. I could be, and I might not know. We all are in too many. I might be in several government ones and be totally unaware of it because there's too many notifications on my phone. That shit's muted. I'm not seeing that. Yeah. So they decide we're going to

plan an attack on some Houthis. We're going to be hitting them with stuff and we should probably all get, we need to get all of these different kind of people from different chunks of the, you know, the government together. So we got to have JD Vance and his representative because usually Vance is too busy to respond. And we got to have the defense secretary, Pete Hegseth, and his representative. We got to have the DNI, Tulsi Gabbard, her representative. We got to have the head of the CIA, his represent- you know, that kind of thing. There's a few more people in there.

Mark Rubio. Mark Rubio, right? Sex estate, you know, and his representative, right? Stephen Miller. Stephen Miller. I don't know that Miller had a representative. He feels like he handles a lot of this stuff on his own, but- Yeah.

On his phone too much, Stephen Miller. Yeah. Chronically online, Stephen Miller. Yeah chronically online Stephen Miller Yeah, and you have the head you have the head of I think sent calm was in there anyway, you got all these people in there and While they're setting this up all the invites are going out because the way you do it with signal is you click a button that Says like start a new group you name the new group in this case they named the group who the PC small group right and Shit, what does PC stand for in this politically correct which honestly I thought that we were over

Yeah, you'd think so, huh? Don't say any slurs in the group chat. That's us. What it's just a reminder Yeah, yeah, no slurs in the small group chat planning committee. I'm guessing yeah planning committee who the planning committee small group Sorry, I had that written down somewhere So they make this group chat and they invite a bunch of people. And here's one of the ways Signal works is that if you're just importing your contacts into Signal, it'll find the guys who have Signal and it'll just show you based on whatever name you have for them in their phone, right? That they're on Signal and you can just invite them.

Otherwise you can set what your Signal name is going to be. And so when people type in your phone number or whatever, they'll see that. Or if you send them an invite, that's the name they'll see. This brings us, I got to take an aside to talk about a guy who is not a member of the Trump administration and who is not a member of government, a man named Jeffrey Goldberg, born in 1965. He is currently the co-editor of The Atlantic. Prior to this, he had what some people would call an illustrious career.

He grew up in Malvern on Long Island. Surely Malvern. Malvern, yeah. I'm looking at his Wiki here, which just has the line that his neighborhood was mainly Catholic and he described it as a wasteland of Irish pogromists. Oh, Jesus. I bet he had a fun childhood. Okay. Interesting. Interesting, Jeffrey. Fasc bet he had a fun childhood. So, okay.

Interesting, interesting, Jeffrey. Fascinating stuff there. Interesting. So, after college, or kind of while he's in college, he leaves and he goes to Israel because he wants to serve in the IDF during the Intifada, the first one, as a prison guard. Jesus Christ. Which is where Palestinian participants in the interphobe were being held and Yeah, he he had like a an interesting conversation with this PLO leader

Who is also like a math teacher who I guess they they were able to like discuss their Zionism or whatever in some way that he found useful Anyway, weird guy not a I bring this up to be like not a left-wing radical Like not one of quote-unquote to our guys right when our guys Not a guy who's probably broadly opposed to most of and in fact to most of what the Trump administration is doing Especially who the airstrikes frankly. Yes now he has pissed off. It's fair to say he has really pissed off Trump a number of times right because he wrote some articles He wrote that 2020 article in the Atlantic about when Trump said I just want to say he has really pissed off Trump a number of times, right? Because he wrote some articles,

he wrote that 2020 article in the Atlantic about when Trump got caught saying that Americans who died in wars are losers and suckers, which is based on sourcing that he had. So he's also attracted their ire, but he's again, generally I would say like more on the bootlicker side of things, like he's just kind of like a nat-sec cheerleader, right?

That would be a fair way to describe Jeffrey. I don't know that he would entirely disagree with that description of himself, you know? Yeah, like a neolimp guy, yeah. That said, he's not so much of one that he's unwilling to report critical stuff, which is what happens here. So he gets an invite on his phone

that it just takes him into this PC, Hootie Small Group. And people have done the work. There's another guy in the Trump administration whose initials are JC. John Greenbrier, I believe. Yeah, I think it was John Greenbrier. And the person who, cause there was some debate initially

about like who invited him. Cause after this came out, there were allegations that he snuck his way in or whatever. We now know based on the evidence that he was inadvertently invited by national security advisor Michael Waltz, right? As evidenced by the signal screenshots. Yes, yes.

There's lots of screenshots. Jeffrey did his, you know, the job of documenting it. Eventually. Right. Well, he documented it right away. Yes. So now here's the thing. From the beginning here, Jeffrey is having the natural reaction.

I will say this for all my critiques of him. He has the reaction I think any minimally competent journalists would have someone's fucking with yeah. Yeah, this is like something to like get me Yeah, you don't get invited into a chat with the SEC deaf in the head of the CIA planning a military strike, right? Yeah, that just doesn't happen. I've been a journalist for a while. That's not occurred to me Yeah, that's not does not really go down. So he's like trying to figure out what the fuck's going on like what's happening and he's like he's making a note He's documenting stuff is there and they're talking about like weapons packages. Like these are the kind of weapons This is where they're striking and then as the strikes go and they're being like this guy headed into his girlfriend's house We're hitting it house blew up. He's dead, right?

Like the exchange was very funny because the way he phrased it was like it completely baffled JD Vance. Yes. Let me pull this up because it was pretty funny. No, please. Please. Michael Waltz. VP. Full stop. Building collapsed. Full stop. Had multiple positive ID. Full stop. Pete. Corilla. The IC. Amazing job.

JD Vance replies, what? Michael Waltz. Typing too fast. Full stop. The first target. M-Dash. Their top missile guy. M-Dash. We have positive idea of him walking into his girlfriend's building and now it's collapsed. JD Vance replies, Excellent. At this point, Michael Waltz responds with the 5th emoji, American flag emoji, flame emoji. Yeah, so it's great. And once it becomes very clear what's happening, number one, rather than stay in the group,

see if maybe he could get invited to other groups, just kind of like keep track of what was going on. Again, being a guy who's like primary concern, and I really do think Goldberg's primary concern here was the security of US soldiers. The national security of the United States. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, as opposed to like, is any of this legal?

Are they like, like his is just like, these people are not being secure, like with, I mean, like this could, if the wrong person got invited into a group like this, it could potentially endanger the lives of airmen and stuff. That's not my primary concern with all this, right? But that is his, you know? And so he hops out of the group, he leaves,

and he puts out this article and he redacts most, other than what's happened, which is a story in and of itself, he like goes out of his way, like there's people who are like in intelligence that are in this that he has their names. And he's like, I am not naming them because they're serving intelligence officers, and that's a no-no. He doesn't, like, specifically give up, other than that this is happening, anything that's, like, particularly dangerous, right? But this is the kind of thing, as soon

as it comes out, obviously it's a furor, and it's unlike most of the time when everybody gets like pissed. It seems like it might have some legs because it's just such a what the fuck moment, right? And it's so contrary to like so much of the messaging coming from from the Trump administration regarding you know, like digital security, Hillary's emails, prosecuting individual soldiers for any like, like, you know, losing a night vision goggle, right? It's kind of the classic one. Leaking information, how this administration's gonna crack down on all information leaks,

you know, that sort of stuff. At one point, Hexess says, we are clear for OpsSec, which I thought was pretty funny. The funniest message in this Signal group is that we're all good on OpsSec, that he says in a group chat with a journalist. Yeah. Yeah. It's super funny. Yeah. Everything that's happening here is very funny. I basically want to move on to like what's what's going to happen next, which is they are going to try to nuke Jeffrey Goldberg.

Like they're going to try to send him to a prison, if not a literal like El Salvadorian work camp. Right. Like that that is going to be their next goal here. Yeah, he embarrassed these people like to an extent that it's, I mean, anyone in uniform would have been court-martialed for this kind of security fuck-up. Oh yeah, yeah. I mean, in times of war in the past,

if like the version of this had happened in World War II, they would have just executed whatever soldier did this. Like, yeah, you don't have to be a spy if you're incompetent enough to just bumble into shit. It's the same result. I did want to address really quickly, like, a couple of things. One, I saw this USA Today article that was like, oh, it's so relatable that they made this mistake of adding someone to the group chat. That was not the mistake. The mistake was coordinating things that should be classified, things that should be, quote

unquote, high side on personal devices using using Signal as opposed to a state department or government issued device which doesn't have your personal contacts to avoid all this, like a device which is not hackable, a device which is not being exposed to QR codes, for example. Yeah, to make sure that in your contacts there's not two guys named JG. JG, yeah. So you might add the wrong JG to your Yemen bombing chat. Yeah. Haven't we all added the wrong person to a group chat? And it's like, I mean, yeah, but I've never like bombed Yemen. Yeah, yeah.

Like for bombing Yemen. Yeah, yeah. It's not the same thing. It's not the same thing as a birthday party. Yeah, like I have two friends named John and I added the wrong one to a group about like planning a mutual friends birthday party But like again minimal damage. Yeah. Yeah. No no service people's lives are put at risk I did also want to point out this at one point Waltz says or Michael Walls who's a national security advisor Yeah, not not not the other one. Yeah, that would be pretty funny. They'd have him as well He was just in there. Yeah, it seems cool, put him in the group, fuck it. What, a dude likes to shoot pheasants in Paris? Seems nice. He seems to be friends with JD Vance, wouldn't be surprising.

So, one of the things Wall says, which is bizarre, is that European navies are incapable of defeating Houthi weapon systems, which just isn't true. There was a coalition of 20 different states running operations in the Red Sea last year. And again, like France has a Navy, like they've got nuclear submarines. They could end the world. To cite one example, HMS Diamond, which is a British ship, shot down a Huthi missile last year. The UK also air struck Huthi targets last year.

Yeah, I've watched the UK carry out air strikes. I feel like they're very capable. Uh, look what the Iranian, what the Houthis have is Iranian 358s to just get really nerdy for a second, right? Which are not really a threat to modern fighter aircraft. It's like a loitering munition, maybe a drone. Yeah. But no, no, like aircraft, not a manned or personed aircraft.

The primary point of how the Houthis are conducting their strikes is not, we're going to knock all of these ships out of the sea. It will create an unsustainable insurance situation for a lot of merchants if there's just always kind of missiles. Even if we never really or almost never hit anybody. That doesn't really matter. You got to deal with the insurance thing. Yeah.

It's going to make that much more expensive and that, that, that particular part of global trade much more difficult to conduct. So far the Trump administration has doubled down on its response. This is pretty funny. Carolyn Levitt on Twitter, X I guess, called Goldberg. She's the White House press secretary, I believe. Press, that's correct. Yeah, White House press secretary. She called Goldberg a quote Trump hater and also claimed the story was a quote

hoax and a quote sensationalist spin. They are also right now claiming that quote war plans and quote attack plans are different things. The information they leaked was too specific to constitute a war plan. Both of these things are kind of ludicrous claims, right? Like very clearly, this is stuff that should be classified very clearly. It's stuff that put those people's lives at risk in the event that the Houthis had any means to respond to like F-18s, which I don't think they do really. I like it. Nah.

But, you know, Iran, who absolutely is a state backer of the Houthis does have the ability, at least in theory, they've kind of shown their ass a bit in the last year or two with Israeli strikes in Iran. Yeah, it's not the ability to easily interdict these kinds of strikes, but certainly the ability to, and more importantly, kind of the ability to survive them to mitigate the damage that they can do. Sure, sure, to go underground or go somewhere else. And like those planes are vulnerable when they're at like certain points in their trajectory, I think. So, you know, it's generally very poor to broadcast exactly what you're doing when, where and how. It's kind of just a basic of like military stuff that you really don't want people to know exactly when you're sending dudes in to do what. Yeah, yeah, there was a very funny meme going around, which basically had like imagined if the same discussion had been had about D-Day in 1944.

And yeah, that wouldn't have gone so well if they had broadcast. There's been a lot of great posts. I'm looking at one by Katie Nautopoulos on Twitter right now. Having read through the full Huthie PC small group blogs, I've come to the sad realization that I'm the JD Vance of my group chats, overly emotional, slightly unprofessional, confused by whatever else is saying, because I won't scroll up continually derails plans with late. Objections. So good.

Oh, that's so good. It is that is that is really funny. That is brutal. Yeah. It is interesting to see their dynamics. It's interesting to see kind of Stephen Miller seems to have the decisive word on like, let's go ahead with this. Oh yeah. Speaking directly for the president. That's it. What's interesting is no one ever says the president has approved this.

The president has said do this. Like Miller says something along the lines of like, we're going forward with this or I've been told we're going forward with this. Yeah. Which is again, not in terms of, it's a very Hitler way of doing things. Right, yeah. Like there's this, I talk about this in the show, there's this decades long debate about,

did Hitler literally order the Holocaust, or did he just kind of keep making it clear to people that if they kept moving in a more Holocaust-y direction, that would endear them to him? Yeah, intentionality. Aspects of both are true, but like, yeah, this is definitely kind of example of that latter thing where Trump is probably like,

yeah, somebody should probably fuck up those Houthis. And then Stephen Miller goes like, yeah, Trump said, you know, we're good, keep moving forward. But he's also, Miller's not dumb. He's not gonna say Trump said to do this. He's gonna say- He's been delegating so much more than his first term to the point where his presidency

is just Projecting a certain vibe that then other people have to carry out all of the details for it Yeah, this is very similar to the Hitler regime. Yeah. Yeah, there is a term for this at the time in the Third Reich It's called working towards the Fuhrer. Okay, right where you're not going to get direct guidelines You're supposed to figure out what he wants and move closer to it. Yeah, no, exactly. Yeah. No, that's kind of been his his new governing style. It's a lot smarter in terms of like just like, you know, getting documents to sign and then projects certain certain like slogans or vibes

that then everyone who works under him, which is at this point, it's maybe like roughly 200 people tops have to all like figure out to like how to enact this thing that they think he wants. Yeah, like even to the extent that he himself was saying he didn't sign the evocation of the Alien Enemies Act that Rubio did. His signature is on it in the federal record, but clearly it's kind of a Rubio or it seems from that it's a Rubio concoction that he just greenlit.

Just a quote from Miller in case anyone's wondering exactly what he said. As I heard it, the president was clear, colon, green light, but we soon make clear to Egypt and Europe what we expect in return. So yeah, he never specifically says the president has okayed this, but yeah. Obviously people in Europe really pissed. I've seen some statements from government ministers in the United Kingdom. The sort of maligning of Europe and its military powers is obviously going to piss those people off. Talking of pissing people off, should we pivot to advertisements?

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of people to Venezuela, has also been assigned the signal lawsuit, an American oversight versus head-to-head. So that guy, the one who Trump already called for his impeachment, right, has another crucial case in front of him. What the Trump administration has done in the court case pertaining to the rendition of people to El Salvador is invoke the state secrets privilege in court and very ironic or very very ironic they're talking about state secrets now having just added Jeff Goldberg to the group chat but that's what they have done you can go back last week to understand sort of a bit more about where that's coming from if you didn't listen to last week

yeah we did we did a whole episode on it last week yeah it's also continuing to claim that it didn't quote- quote unquote remove migrants after the tentative restraining order was issued because they'd already been removed. The removal happened when they were loaded onto the plane. Is this argument concurrently with this as a panel hearing? So that's a panel of three judges, right, which the government is appealing the tentative restraining order. During this hearing, second court judge Patricia Millett said, quote, the Nazis received better treatment

under the Alien Enemies Act than these Venezuelan migrants, which is true. The Nazis had hearings in the 1930s. They didn't just get loaded onto playing the central work camp. Not a great reflection on where we're at. The Trump administration is trying to challenge the jurisdiction of Boasberg, saying that he should have filed the same claim in Texas. Meanwhile, Venezuelan government attorneys are filing a legal claim in El Salvador to liberate their citizens from Secod. It's worth noting, of course, that these people, some of them have been tortured by the Venezuelan government and chose to flee at no small risk to their lives.

If people haven't listened to some of our older stuff, like I've been to the Darien Gap, which is the way that the vast majority of Venezuelan migrants come. You can listen to my episodes about that if you want to know more about why people are leaving Venezuela. We have a little more information on some of the people detained. One of them is a makeup artist, she's a gay man who was beaten by guards as a US photojournalist watch.

Another one, the Miami Herald is reporting, had been granted legal refugee status. So it seems that they sort of randomly grabbed tattooed Venezuelans. Some of these people have been through background checks already, right, at which they will have disclosed their tattoos. That's one of the things that they'll be asked about. And they would have disclosed those. So whether they control EFTIT or how quite how they came across these people is still a little bit unclear. A couple of other things regarding to immigration enforcement this week that have come across

my radar, but probably don't matter a whole episode. It's been reported that the IRS is close to an agreement to hand over the tax records of undocumented people. It is claimed for decades and it won't do this. This is why most undocumented people pay taxes. Right? Yeah. Which is something that the conservatives just like don't believe. Yes. They're like, all these undocumented immigrants aren't paying taxes like the rest of us. Like, no, actually, they are. What they're not doing is receiving benefits from those taxes.

Yeah. And yes. And this is a great way to have people want to pay less taxes if they're going to get their information sent over to like the Gestapo. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, the whole point was to not provide a disincentive. This is similar to why California gives drivers licenses to undocumented people and allows them to insure vehicles, right? Because you don't want to provide a disincentive to have a driver's license.

You don't want to provide a disincentive to have a driver's license. You don't want to provide a disincentive to have insurance. We have now provided a disincentive to pay your taxes for undocumented people. So yeah, that will have consequences and it will have consequences especially in industries, right? Like agriculture and construction, where large numbers of people tend to be undocumented. Talking of undocumented migration, the Commerce Secretary, Howard Lutnick, reports that he said it's on the All In podcast, he has claimed to have already sold 1000 gold cards. So gold cards, if you didn't listen to our previous reporting on that. I feel like I'm getting dizzy. I'm just like... Yeah, I'm ill.

Yeah, there is no process for applying for receiving a gold card yet. So it's extremely unclear what this means in immigration law terms. So he just got like a thousand texts from millionaires being like, yeah, I'll buy one maybe like. Yeah, well, multi millionaires, five million each, right? Like, so yeah, apparently not quite clear. Like, and like he claims that he sold them. Like, is he going around shopping these around? Is this how we're going to replace the tax revenue from undocumented people?

Like, no one knows. No one knows what this means. Who do you pay? Like very unclear. So yeah, that's great. That is the current situation with immigration. I also wanted to add that at least three people who are rare have died in San Diego County on the 14th of March in a storm while crossing the border.

One young woman who survived was found next to the remains of her father who died of exposure in a winter storm out here. So yeah, the border continues to be doing violence to some of the most marginalized people alive, which is great. We should pop in here. A story just dropped. Michael Waltz, the national security advisor, who invited Jeffrey to that group chat.

Journalists have found his public Venmo. No. Every time with the Venmo. No. Always the Venmo. Quote unquote, it's full of journalists. Ha ha ha. Ha ha ha.

Ha ha ha. I'm just gonna read a quote from an article on prospect.org. Unsurprisingly, Fox News holds the highest headcount for reporters in Mike Waltz's phone. Griff Jenkins, whose Fox.com bio lists him as a Washington-based national correspondent for Fox, is joined in the list by Brian Kilmeade, co-host of Fox and Friends. Porter Barry, president and editor of Fox Digital, also made the cut. But right-wing reporters are not the only ones represented in Waltz's Venmo list, which appears to be less than

clean on ObSec, as Secretary of Defense, Hengsteth wrote. Leland Vidert, a national correspondent for News Nation, is also listed on the digital account, as is Brianna Keeler, an American journalist who currently serves as co-anchor of the afternoon edition of CNN News Central. Lauren Pykoff, an executive producer at MSNBC, is also in Walz's contacts. Earlier this year, Trump tweeted about the network,

Wow, Rachel Maddow has horrible ratings. She'll be off the air soon. But amidst the broadcasters, producers, and talking heads, one name stands out from the crowd, Judith Miller, who was summarily fired from the New York Times after it was revealed that her reporting on the Iraq war was categorically false and obtained almost verbatim from Vice President Dick Cheney. Her dismissal was the price paid for cozying up too close to an administration set on war. It's just like, okay, we don't check any of this. We haven't locked anything down. Good. Having your public Venmo itself is crazy. The fact that he's like... The fact that he's getting dinner with journalists and being like, I'll send you a Venmo request for this sushi. Yeah.

Oh, man. They've downloaded his entire friends list, and you can just scroll it. Yeah, I know. You can see everybody. Oh, my God. He's going to get like a $15 Venmo request from Brian Killmead for getting drinks at a bar. Like what are we doing? Oh What are we doing? Yeah? Oh, so yeah Yeah, how well that these people make hundreds of thousands if not billions of dollars. I think so much money. 15 bucks

Yeah, get the bad. It's just one drink in DC. It's so funny. Oh my god Now I think it's time folks that we take a little bit of a detour and talk about tariffs Oh My god, I love playing that God, I love playing that song. I love playing that song. We don't actually have anything to say about tariffs. Mia's not here.

I will note there's a graph going around about the potential cost of Guinness under Trump's tax plan, which is usually around $7 per pint in the US, and will now be $22 to $27 after Trump's, you know, new tariffs for imported alcohol. That reflects its true value because it's also a meal. Yes, absolutely. Anyway, we're done. That's all I have to say on tariffs.

As long as the twisted tea pricing doesn't get affected, I'll be fine then. That's good. Not going to comment. Now, in some more upsetting news, another student at Columbia has been forced into hiding as ICE targets her for deportation. Yoon-Sow Chung is a 21-year-old permanent resident who immigrated to the United States from Korea with her family when she was seven. On March 9th, she received a text message from Homeland Security Investigations, reading, Hi Yun-Sau, this is Audrey from the police.

My job is to reach out to you and see if you have any questions about your recent arrest and the process going forward. When are you available for a phone call? So this message was allegedly in reference to being arrested, among others, at a recent sit-in protest at Bernard College at Columbia. She was charged and then released with misdemeanor obstruction. So after receiving that sketchy text, something that you should never respond to, you should immediately send to your lawyer.

But after receiving this text, Chung got an email from Columbia Public Safety reading, quote, the US Attorney's Office for the Southern District of New York has asked us to inform you that Homeland Security Investigation agents are seeking to make contact with you in connection with an administrative warrant for your arrest. Consistent with the university's practice, we wanted to share this information and their request with you. If you are represented by counsel, it may make sense for your lawyer to speak directly with DHS. That same day, ICE agents showed up at the home of Chung's parents, and Chung's lawyer

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told Ms. Ahmad, Ms. Chung's attorney, that the secretary of state, Mark Rubio, had revoked Ms. Chung's visa. Ms. Ahmad responded responded that Miss Chung was not in the country on a visa and was a permanent resident. According to the lawsuit, Miss Carbone responded that Mr. Rubio had quote, revoked that as well unquote. So this similar to like a Mahmood Khalil like demonstrates that like they have no idea of the of the actual like residency status of the people that they're going after. They're just going after non-citizens and may eventually start going after citizens too. They're just going after people that they assume have the least

amount of protections, whether that's a green card holder, whether that's someone on a student visa or a work visa. They don't really know going in. They're just going after people. Then on March 13th, ICE searched two residences on campus with warrants citing a statute for harboring non-citizens. The Trump administration is arguing that Chung's presence in the United States hinders the administration's foreign policy agenda. One 21-year-old student who was the valedictorian at her high school is hindering their foreign policy agenda for attending a sit-in protest. Her lawyers note that Chung was not by any means a movement leader. She was simply one of hundreds of students who joined in in nationwide protests against

Israel's actions in Gaza. Her lawyers write, quote, Ms. Chung has not made any public statements to the press or otherwise assumed a high profile role in these protests. She was, rather, one of a large group of college students raising, expressing, and discussing shared concerns, unquote. Chung herself had previously faced a university disciplinary process, which found that Chung was not in violation of any university policy. So in response to the actions of ICE and Homeland Security

to try to locate and deport her, Chung went into hiding. Her whereabouts are still unknown as of time of recording. And her lawyers filed a lawsuit to prevent her deportation, claiming that ICE actions against Chung are illegal and unconstitutional. The lawsuit reads, quote, officials at the highest echelons of government are attempting to use immigration enforcement as a bludgeon to suppress speech that they dislike, including Ms. Chung's speech. ICE's shocking actions against Ms. Chung form part of a larger pattern of attempted U.S. government

repression of constitutionally protected protest activity and other forms of speech." Now, this past Tuesday, a federal judge granted a temporary restraining order halting efforts from ICE to detain or relocate Chung. The judge said that there is, quote, nothing in the record indicating that Chung is a danger to the community or a, quote, unquote, foreign policy risk, or that she has communicated with terrorist organizations. The judge said that there would be, quote, no trips to Louisiana here, unquote, referring

to the movement of Khalil to ICE detention in Louisiana. Yeah. A DHS statement said that ICE is going to quote, investigate individuals engaged in activities in support of Hamas, a foreign terrorist organization, unquote. The statement also claimed that Chung would have an opportunity to present her case before an immigration judge. Which is like contrary to incidents of ICE just deporting people before their legally required hearings. Even like in defiance of like extra court orders mandating those hearings. Like ICE is just lying here.

And I think it's worth pointing out like what types of people they are going after, right? Now one type of person that ICE is going after is is non-citizens who were arrested at protests, regardless of what they actually did. This can be anything from standing in the street to doing a sit-in protest, to just being arrested on campus and removed by campus police or NYPD. Just any arrest on record that shows you at one of these protests. Yeah. The other, in the case of like Khalil, like he was never arrested. He was the subject of a mass doxxing campaign by other students at Columbia, professors,

and other, you know, quote unquote, anti-Semitism organizations, which target high-profile activists to create like public pressure against them. And those same lists are now being used by the Trump administration to target students. Yeah, ETA had one, right? Or BETA, the ultra Zionist people who are going around attempting to fucking present people with pages. I think they were one of the groups that had created a quote unquote deportation list. So we should just mention that a tough student, Rumeysa Oztzturk was essentially abducted on her way to university, right?

There's video which we'll link in the show notes here. Very very frightening video of her just standing on the sidewalk as first one man approaches her in like a in like a like a Navy hoodie put up mask on his face approaches her stops her and then as soon as they start engaging in conversation She gets surrounded by like five other people all wearing like what I would describe as like a gray man block essentially Yeah, that they then like pull out badges and they like detain her and it's interesting Like as they approach most these people are unmasked and then as soon as people realize what's happening like like like people in in the neighborhood It realized we realized what's happening. They all start pulling up like half-faced masks. Gators. Gators.

Gators. They looked to me more than anything, the way Proud Boys dressed a lot in 2019, 2020. Yeah. It's extremely concerning when you start seeing these masked people snatching people off the street. She asked if she can call the cops and they say, we are the police. It looks like her phone falls out of her hand at some point. They take her bag. We know this because it seems like somebody was filming from a building just above.

And you can hear that people say, like, why are you covering your, that person said, why are you wearing masks? Why are you covering your faces? Yeah, the guy, the guy filming is like doing about what he can, given the fact that you have to assume he had no real idea what was happening initially, other than like something visibly fucked up. Like I'm glad he said the things that he said, but yeah. So yeah, she's a Turkish citizen who is in the States on a student visa in Boston, Massachusetts

or outside Boston, Massachusetts. Yeah. She's on an F1 visa. So just a couple of days to few days before she was seized, she, like her name was published by Canary Mission, right? Canary Mission is a Zionist group that is, has been doxing pro-Palestine or anti-genocide people for several years. Now she had co-edited an op-ed in the Tufts Daily last year.

That seems to be how they were able to identify her. But as Garrison said, right, like in terms of how they're picking their targets right now, it seems to be heavily tied to these vigilante Zionist far-right groups. I did see that a judge has already ruled that she shouldn't be left. She shouldn't be removed from Massachusetts without further consultation with that judge. We don't know if she has been or not already. But this is continuing to happen, right?

We talked about it this last week. I'm going to do a whole episode next week about this issue. She is in Louisiana. Sorry, update. She has already been moved to Louisiana. Yeah, so I'm just reading a truth out piece here. Officials initially did not specify where else Turk had been taken. Kanaabi, it's her lawyer, was unable to reach her.

Later on Wednesday, Kanaabi said in a motion that she was informed by a senator's office that the student was already transferred to Louisiana. It's like in a matter of hours, they worked to get her outside of her home state where she probably has more legal protections. Yeah, it's not something that's super uncommon. I've seen them do this with what they call lateral transfers under Title 42, where they would move people. Under Title 42, they could immediately return people to Mexico, right?

And what they would do is laterally transfer them along the border and return them to another location in Mexico, which obviously led to them being completely dislocated when they were dropped in Mexico. Something else that I want to note is the use of this harboring non-citizens warrant. Like one problem that ICE can run into often is that people can choose just to not answer the door. ICE usually likes to rely on people that have like already been arrested or already detained by like police, right? That makes it much easier for immigration officials to find people.

Without that, locating people can be a little bit harder with the use of this harboring non-citizens warrant that shows there's trying to create this precedent for being able to actually break into more people's homes, even though she had a permanent resident status. This is just like in terms of the tactics being used, similar to all these gray man block people approaching you on the street one by one. That's a tactic to take note of. The use of this type of warrant is also something to take note of. We are already at that point where people are going into hiding.

This is very dystopian YA coded stuff. You are literally, as a 21-year-old junior, being forced to go into hiding because federal agents are after you because you sat down. You sat down in front of a building in protest of a genocide. You're not even a movement leader. And this type of thing shouldn't even happen to quote unquote movement leaders, right? Yeah. The very First Amendment protects your right to do that.

Exactly. Yeah. But like, regardless of whether or not you're involved in like the planning, the organization, what whether or not you're making statements to press, whether or not you're giving speeches, if you just attend these sorts of things, you are you are a target by what is like, very obviously, a modern version of like, Gestapo like actions. Yeah, I think it's also quite revealing that she's somewhat successfully gone into hiding, right? Like it suggests that their intelligent operation is not so advanced that they were able to immediately find her. Well, no, because again, the resources to do stuff like trace somebody down by their shoes from like surveillance camera footage exists.

We saw it used on those lawyers who lit a police vehicle on fire back in 2020. But there's not really much in the way of crimes going on here. And there's so many of these people, the idea that you would pull all of the footage that you would need to track every one of these, it's just not feasible.

And I think they'll just go after someone else to get the headline. But I'll be following this one with interest because it's sort of an alternative outcome to the other ones that we've seen so far. So it'll just be revelatory to see how it goes. Yeah. So if you want to contact us about any of this, maybe if you're seeing things happening on your campus, if you have anything you'd like to share or things you think we've missed, you can do so. The email address is coolzontips at proton.me.

ProtonMail is an encrypted email service. It's only end-to-end encrypted, like Signal, if you send it from a ProtonMail address. Don't copy any Atlantic journalists on your email and you should be good to go. Thank you to everyone who's been sending those messages. It does take time for us to go through all of them. Not all of them will have a response, but we are reading them. Thank you. I am still working on a piece on the Lavender Scare. There's a lot of stuff happening regarding, you know, suppressing and going after trans people in the military. This takes time, but we are working on that slowly but surely, as well as stuff regarding ICE targeting students and what's going on in Colombia.

So we appreciate that. The last thing I want to talk about is this past Monday, the IDF killed two Palestinian journalists in Gaza in separate airstrikes. Mohammed Mansour, who works for Palestine Today, was killed, quote, in his house in southern Gaza alongside his wife and his son without any prior warning, according to Al-Jazeera. Later that day, the IDF killed 23-year-old Palestinian journalist Hassam Shabat in a targeted airstrike while he was driving his car in northern Gaza. I want to read the statement from Hassam.

Quote, if you're reading this, it means I have been killed, most likely targeted by the Israeli occupation forces. When all this began, I was only 21 years old, a college student with dreams like anyone else. For the past 18 months, I've dedicated every moment of my life to my people. I documented the horrors in northern Gaza minute by minute, determined to show the world the truth they tried to bury. I slept on pavements, in schools, in tents, anywhere I could.

Each day was a battle for survival. I endured hunger for months, yet I never left my people's side. By God, I fulfilled my duty as a journalist. I risked everything to report the truth, and now I am finally at rest, something I haven't known in the past 18 months. I did all this because I believe in the Palestinian cause. I believe this land is ours, and it has been the highest honour of my life to die defending it and serving its people. I ask you now, do not stop speaking about Gaza. Do not let the world look away. Keep fighting. Keep telling our stories.

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