It Could Happen Here - How The American People Can Beat The American Military

Episode Date: April 24, 2019

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Starting point is 00:00:00 You should probably keep your lights on for Nocturnal Tales from the Shadowbride. Join me, Danny Trejo, and step into the flames of fright. An anthology podcast of modern-day horror stories inspired by the most terrifying legends and lore of Latin America. Listen to Nocturnal on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Welcome to It Could Happen Here, a production of iHeartRadio. The decision to send American soldiers into an American city to restore order would be a momentous one, but it would not be unprecedented. In 1957, President Eisenhower sent the 101st Airborne into Arkansas to oppose that state's National Guard, who'd been ordered by the governor to
Starting point is 00:00:56 not let black students into Little Rock's Central High School. In 1967, members of Detroit's all-white police force arrested several black men at a drinking club, which sparked riots that left 43 people dead. The violence so overwhelmed the city's police that several thousand army troops and National Guardsmen were brought in. In 1968, after Martin Luther King Jr. was assassinated, riots broke out in the city of Chicago. The police tried and failed to suppress the violence. Nine people died the first night. The army was, again, sent in to restore order. More than 13,000 soldiers were called into Washington, D.C. to protect the capital from spreading unrest and
Starting point is 00:01:37 violence. Six people died in rioting in Baltimore. The National Guard was deployed there as well. I don't know about you, but I never heard much about all that when I was in school. I think I remember vague mention of rioting, people protesting and such, but certainly no more detail than that. But what happened in the wake of Martin Luther King Jr.'s murder was not simple rioting. It was a goddamn uprising. The Holy Week Uprising is actually the name given to the 10 days of violence that followed Dr. King's assassination. Almost 200 American cities experienced simultaneous rioting, arson, sniper attacks, and massive property damage. Peter Levy, author of The Great Uprising,
Starting point is 00:02:18 writes that during this week, quote, the United States experienced its greatest wave of social unrest since the Civil War. The uprisings injured 3,500, killed 43, and led to 27,000 arrests. It took a total of 58,000 National Guardsmen and Army soldiers to contain the violence. Many of those involved, on the side of the protesters, absolutely saw the uprisings as the prelude to a revolution. side of the protesters, absolutely saw the uprisings as the prelude to a revolution. When H. Rapp Brown, an organizer with the Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee, was arrested by the FBI, he told them, quote,
Starting point is 00:02:58 We stand on the eve of the black revolution, with eye for eye and life. The current rebellions were just a dress rehearsal for the real revolution. Now, the Holy Week uprisings did not, of course, lead to a revolution, but they certainly provide a blueprint of how we could expect the federal government and the military to respond to a series of uprisings in multiple major American cities. Once the police failed to contain the unrest, as we talked about in the last episode, the Army and the National Guard would inevitably move in. In the decades since 1968, American military thinkers have grown more comfortable and adept at thinking of American cities as just another battle space. As Cities Under Siege notes,
Starting point is 00:03:37 quote, lessons learned reports drawn up after military deployments whose goal was to contain the Los Angeles riots of 1992, credit the success of the mission to the fact that the enemy, the local population, was easy to outmaneuver given their simple battle tactics and strategies. Now, I've referred back to Cities Under Siege by Stephen Graham several times in this podcast. I think it's developed a vaguely prophetic feel to me. I first read through parts of it in 2016, after David Kilcullen recommended I read it. But it was published back in 2010, and it had its genesis in a conference the author attended shortly after 9-11. Here's Stephen Graham telling that story.
Starting point is 00:04:18 In 2002, I was invited with Simon Marvin, co-author of the Splintering Urbanism book, to a conference in Israel titled War in the City in the 21st Century. gyfarfodd gyda Simon Marvin, co-aureolwr o'r llyfr ysbrydoliadau, i gyfweliad yn Israel yn enwedig, War in the City in the 21st Century. Roedden ni'n ymgynghori ychydig am ble i fynd ac fe wnaethon ni fynd yn Universtit Haifa ac fe wnaethon ni ddod i fynd yn ystod y debat academaidd. Roedden ni'n cael ein cymryd am ddau dydd gan ddynion sy'n cysgu camoflawj a chynnal gwaith gwaith a siarad am y ddynion fel ystafell newydd, fel ystafell newydd, fel ystafell newydd o anodd ar gyfer milwyr a chyfforddiant diogel. astonished to discover this enormous world of sort of urban research that was going on in a sort of parallel universe to the more familiar worlds, to us anyway, of social science discussions about cities. So, way back in the day, before the invasion of Iraq, military planners in the United States were already taking it for granted that the wars of the future would be fought in cities. The last
Starting point is 00:05:22 18 years have proven that prediction accurate. Fallujah, Raqqa, Marawi, and Mosul are just the most spectacular examples. On my second trip out to Mosul, we billeted with some soldiers from Iraq's Golden Division, a U.S.-trained and equipped special forces unit in what had once been a wealthy family's house in western Mosul. The man who'd previously lived there had risen high in ISIS's ranks, not because he was a great warrior or a devious terrorist mastermind, but because he did a fantastic job of managing a factory that produced metal tubing. These tubes had been used for a variety of tube-based commercial purposes back in peacetime, but now that Mosul was at war, ISIS had repurposed the tubes to produce giant custom mortars. My videographer, my fixers,
Starting point is 00:06:07 and I all shared one of the most bizarre dinners of my life with an Iraqi colonel in what had once been that tube-making man's daughter's bedroom. The walls were brightly painted with reasonable facsimiles of Disney princesses. Since ISIS was ISIS, their eyes had been blotted out with great big blotches of red. The purpose of that was to sort of disrupt the drawing's features enough that it didn't violate fundamentalist Muslim prohibitions against depicting the human form. It had the effect of making Ariel, Snow White, and Pocahontas look red-eyed and vaguely demonic. As I sat there, my eyes flitting from the paintings on the wall, to the bullet holes in the the ceiling to the old colonel happily eating lamb,
Starting point is 00:06:46 I remembered a quote by Sultan Barakat, a professor at the University of York. Today, wars are fought not in trenches and fields, but in living rooms, schools, and supermarkets. The First American Civil War had battles with names like Bull Run, Gettysburg, and the Battle of the Wilderness. The battles of the Second American Civil War have battles with names like Bull Run, Gettysburg, and the Battle of the Wilderness. The battles of the Second American Civil War will more likely have names like the Battle of Boyle Heights, the Battle of Manhattan, and the Battle of Portland. As Dr. Graham noted, this is not particularly controversial thinking among military planners. It's been well-accepted doctrine for decades that future warfighting will take place in cities.
Starting point is 00:07:27 Megacities, urban areas with a population of more than 10 million, are particular areas of concern for military planners. The United States has four megacities. I found a Military Times article published in 2018 that interviewed Army Chief of Staff, General Mark Milley about this. Quote, Milley has said that the army is not ready to fight in megacities. He has characterized
Starting point is 00:07:52 recent and current urban operations, including fighting in Aleppo in Syria and Fallujah and Mosul in Iraq, as previews of future conflict. Those fights, while bloody, costly, and destructive, your conflict. Those fights, while bloody, costly, and destructive, hardly reach the scale of a megacity. Mosul is not equal to a neighborhood in Seoul, Milley has said. Now, two of America's megacities, Los Angeles and New York, also hosted huge Occupy contingents back in 2011. If we're looking at potential hotspots, cities that might declare themselves autonomous zones, If we're looking at potential hotspots, cities that might declare themselves autonomous zones, these both fit the bill. Now, if your experience in the City of Angels is limited to walking the Santa Monica Pier or catching a movie at Man's Chinese Theater,
Starting point is 00:08:34 the idea of L.A. as a center of violent resistance to the state probably seems absurd. It's felt that way to me more than a few times as I walk around my lovely Palm Line neighborhood on the west side, enjoying cool breezes and watching smiling couples walk their ridiculous tiny dogs. And when I start to convince myself that my experiences in this pleasant chunk of the city mean more than they do, I think back to the 1992 riots. Those riots were kicked off, of course, by the brutal police beating of Rodney King and the fact that the officers responsible were acquitted. But those riots did not arise in a vacuum. Unrest had been growing in the city and among black urban populations in the United States for quite some time. A tremendous amount of rap and hip-hop from the late 80s and pre-riot 90s referenced the widespread
Starting point is 00:09:20 feeling that something was about to go down. I actually found a fun Rolling Stone article that picks out 15 of these songs. It's an interesting read. Quote, On Ghetto Boys, City Under Siege, Bushwick Bill plays tribute to Ida Delaney, a black woman who was shot to death by a drunken off-duty police officer in 1989. Unlike the four cops who received not-guilty verdicts for assaulting Rodney King, Alex Gonzalez was initially convicted of manslaughter, but the decision was overturned on appeal. Meanwhile, Scarface and Willie D mocked then-President
Starting point is 00:09:54 George H.W. Bush's 1990 invasion of Panama to capture former CIA stooge Manuel Noriega and corrupt government officials who hypocritically enabled drug pushers while publicly lambasting them. Their final analysis? Everything's corrupt. Fuck school, fuck curfew, fuck homework, and motherfuck a damn cop, rails Bushwick Bill with the kind of nihilism fervor that occasionally sets cities in flames. Now, I find it interesting that Bushwick Bill's City Under Siege has almost the exact same title as a seminal work of military theory published 20 years later.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Anyway, if the LA police in 1992 were overwhelmed by a group of largely unarmed and inexperienced disobedient citizens, well, that can happen again. Individual states have been forced to use the army to pacify cities in recent memory. What hasn't happened, ever in this nation's history, is the army being overwhelmed by a civilian uprising. That would be unprecedented, and it seems particularly unlikely in light of the fact that our military
Starting point is 00:10:56 has spent much of the last 20 years fighting in cities and planning to fight in more cities. But I have come to believe that it is, in fact, possible for American insurgents to defeat, or at least hold their own, against the American military. The explanation for why I feel this way also starts back in that little girl's bedroom in Mosul. I mentioned her father, the home's former owner,
Starting point is 00:11:19 had a job making tubes for ISIS mortars. Much was said about the American weapons ISIS captured in Syria and Iraq. Less has was said about the American weapons ISIS captured in Syria and Iraq. Less has been said about the open-source, modular, and easily replicable weapon factories they created. In Mosul, ISIS was infamous for using a weird, bespoke 119.5 millimeter mortar round. These were very big shells, and I can say from terrifying experience that they made much larger booms than the standard 81mm mortars used by American soldiers. These machines of war, like many of ISIS's deadliest armaments, were crafted entirely from things you can find in any city on Earth. The average mechanic in any American city can build one of Dasha's mortars.
Starting point is 00:12:03 Those mortar rounds, and all ISIS explosive devices were built with modularity in mind. ISIS had schematics for a standard detonator, which could be slotted into rockets or grenades or suicide belts or gigantic vehicle-based IEDs and then used to blast holes in Iraqi army and Kurdish defensive lines. In other words, ISIS invented a plug-and-play arsenal. With the open-source designs ISIS dreamed up, any moderately intelligent engineer could throw together basically any purpose-built device he wanted to build. There's a fantastic Wired article about this, the Terror Industrial Complex. Its author follows a European investigator named Spleters
Starting point is 00:12:43 as he travels around Iraq to recently liberated ISIS factories, trying to figure out how they kept arming themselves once the entire city of Mosul had been cut off from the rest of the caliphate. Quote, Iraq's oil fields provided the industrial base, tool and die sets, high-end saws, injection molding machines, and skilled workers who knew how to quickly fashion intricate parts to spec. Raw materials came from cannibalizing steel pipe and melting down scrap. ISIS engineers forged new fuses, new rockets and launchers, and new bomblets to be dropped by drones, all assembled using instruction plans drawn up by ISIS officials. The aluminum paste in the bucket, for example, which ISIS craftsmen mix with ammonium
Starting point is 00:13:25 nitrate to make a potent main charge from mortars and rocket warheads, splitters discovered the same buckets from the same manufacturers and chemical distributors in Fallujah to Crete and Mosul. I like to see the same stuff in different cities, he tells me, since these repeat sightings allow him to identify and describe different steps in ISIS's supply chain. It confirms my theory that this is the industrial revolution of terrorism, and for that, they need raw material in industrial quantities. Welcome, I'm Danny Thrill. Won't you join me at the fire and dare enter Nocturnum, Tales from the Shadows, presented by iHeart and Sonora.
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Starting point is 00:14:48 Listen to Nocturnal Tales from the Shadows as part of my Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. If Iraq was the site of terrorism's industrial revolution, American cities might wind up being its proving ground. For one thing, there are already millions of civilians in this country with access to many of the basic tools and ingredients needed to manufacture similar armaments. You can buy gunpowder in every state.
Starting point is 00:15:22 They'll deliver it to your door in many parts of this fair land. They'll deliver tannerite, too. Ammonium nitrate, which provided the charge for ISIS's explosives, can also be derived from tannerite. Back when I lived in Texas, I'd order 20 pounds of the stuff at a time. It cost around $200. It actually seems to be a little cheaper nowadays. If you're on a budget, 5 pounds is just $42. This might be news to urban liberals,
Starting point is 00:15:45 but trust me, every left and right-wing gun nut in America already knows about this stuff. They sell it in sporting goods stores. In my mind, a city like Portland is one of the easiest places to imagine a serious revolutionary movement kicking off. It's got the right mix of seriously dedicated, experienced left-wing activists and politically active far-right extremists. It also has a prevalent gun culture, including numerous left-wing gun clubs. But even cities like New York and Los Angeles, which restrict explosives, gunpowder, and firearms much more rigorously, are large and porous enough that it would be easy to imagine weaponry flowing there from other parts of the country. In 2015, a South Carolina man's home was busted with 5,000 illegal firearms. Investigators
Starting point is 00:16:27 suspect this home was a nexus point in what's known as the Iron Pipeline, a network of gun smugglers who ensure cities with strict gun control still enjoy access to the same deadly weapons as people in fuck-off Texas. And this brings me to the auto-Maidan. In Kiev, during the Maidan uprising, it became necessary to smuggle weaponry, fireworks, sticks, shields, etc. into the protest camp as the fighting escalated from the standard shoving matches between police and protesters to something more akin to urban warfare. Members of the auto-Maidan arranged distraction cars to draw police attention away while other volunteers drove their supplies into occupied sections of town. Much of what was smuggled in was food or medical supplies, but as the fighting wore on, rifles and ammunition and armor became increasingly common. I imagine the same thing happening in America, as activists in occupied chunks of cities use encrypted communication apps to coordinate with their friends in government-controlled territory.
Starting point is 00:17:24 As the fighting grows more serious, the equipment smuggled in will change from milk of magnesia for tear gas, helmets, shields, and sticks, to Kevlar vests, AR-15s, bullets, and explosives. The same sort of thing, with a different cast of characters, will occur in separatist chunks of rural America. Some of these smugglers will be enterprising young mercenaries, just looking for a way to make a buck. Others will be true believers. And many may actually be leftist separatists willing to make a deal with right-wing separatists, handing over tools and raw materials derived from the industrial base of the cities in exchange for food and firearms. Civil wars make strange bedfellows. Just ask any Syrian. And I imagine one of the
Starting point is 00:18:06 things those right-wing separatists will most want smuggled out from the cities are over-the-counter civilian drones. And this brings me back to ISIS and Mosul. See, Daesh wasn't just making mortar rounds in their homebrew factories. They also made bomblets with injection-molded plastic bodies and handmade tail kits. Some of these literally looked like grenades with shuttlecocks attached. They'd take little servo motors, simple remote-controlled claws, and attach those to perfectly legal drones. The most popular model seemed to be the DJI Phantom, which currently retails for between $500 and $1,500, depending on options. You can pick one up at your local Best Buy today.
Starting point is 00:18:47 Outfitting a drone in this manner requires very little. You can order all the necessary parts off of Amazon.com. Given enough time, anyone listening to this podcast could figure it all out. The only thing Amazon won't provide are the bomblets themselves. I'm not going to go into detail about how exactly those are constructed,
Starting point is 00:19:05 but if you know someone who built their own computer, you probably know someone who could figure it out. Bomb science is not rocket science. With $20,000 or $30,000 in funding, a group of insurgents could have everything they would need to start putting together a small air force. And in case you're wondering, yes, weaponized commercial drones are effective,
Starting point is 00:19:26 terrifyingly so. On my second trip into Mosul, I talked to Major Mezir Sadun. Mezir had been the captain of the Mosul SWAT team before ISIS invaded. He was famous for being the last cop in town as ISIS took over the city. And when the Iraqi army invaded Mosul to oust ISIS, he formed an elite unit of men who'd all lost family to Islamic terrorists and wanted revenge. They spent months at the front of the advance. Mezir survived multiple car bombings and suicide belt detonations. He's probably the most frightening man I will ever meet. I only saw him express anything close to fear once, and it's when I asked him about fighting ISIS's drones. I remember the way he shook his head as he explained to me how nearly impossible it was
Starting point is 00:20:10 to hit one of those little fuckers, even for experienced veterans with machine guns. There were a lot of drones over Mosul, and many of them were DJI Phantoms. The Iraqi army, taking a leaf out of ISIS's book, built their own drone fleet along almost identical lines. I have a video on my hard drive of one of these drones killing a sniper. I've also seen videos online of ISIS using these little drones to blow up armored Humvees. Nick Waters, a journalist with the investigative platform Bellingcat, analyzed hundreds of ISIS drone strikes and found that 22.2% of them hit Humvees. But tanks and other armored vehicles
Starting point is 00:20:47 like Cougars and self-propelled cannons were also attacked and destroyed by weaponized civilian drones. Vehicle armor is not as thick at the top because why would it be? I've even seen at least one video where ISIS dropped a grenade inside an armored vehicle through an opened top
Starting point is 00:21:05 hatch. It and the soldiers inside were basically atomized. Nothing scared the Iraqi soldiers I was embedded with more than the distinctive hum of tiny drones. And it really was terrifying to know that out there, in the sky around you, this little robotic gnat might be about to drop a bomb on your head. These drones are like two feet across. Most of them are white. When they move fast, they're I'd like to quote from that Wired article again. At a place where the author makes the point that ISIS's defeat in Mosul did not mean that all their knowledge and capability died out. Their intellectual capital, their weapon designs, the engineering challenges they've solved, their industrial processes, blueprints, and schematics still constitute a major threat. a major threat. That's the really scary part to the extent that the ISIS model proliferates, says Matt Schrader, a senior researcher at the Small Arms Survey, the Geneva-based think tank. Much of the international structure that prevents weapons trafficking is rendered useless if ISIS
Starting point is 00:22:14 can simply upload and share their designs and manufacturing processes with affiliates in Africa and Europe, who also have access to money and machinery. Joshua Pierce, an engineering professor at Michigan Tech University, is an expert in open source hardware. He describes ISIS manufacturing as a very twisted maker culture. In this future, weapons schematics can be downloaded from the dark web or simply shared via popular encrypted social media services like WhatsApp. In the previous episode, I talked about Atomwaffen and their obsessive love of ISIS propaganda and tactics. Most Americans haven't heard of ISIS's open-source munition factories. The people who have are probably an even mix of military veterans,
Starting point is 00:22:58 journalists, and budding terrorists. Those files will spread, and they will wind up in the hands of domestic extremists, not just ISIS. And because technology works the way it does, the weapons made will only get more efficient and deadlier as different groups produce them, work out kinks, and upload their improved designs to the internet. This is not a cat that can be put back in its bag.
Starting point is 00:23:22 So, let's think back to our hypothetical Civil War. We've got rural uprisings and cities that have barricaded themselves away from federal control. After many, many deaths and injuries, it's become clear that the police have failed. The point at which Army and Marine infantry start moving in to, say, put down the state of Jefferson uprising in Northern California and liberate Wall Street from the leftist mob occupying it. At that point, many people would expect this to be where things end rather quickly. But I believe it would be the point in which Foucault's boomerang
Starting point is 00:23:56 hits our nation square in the face. One of the things that really struck me about that Wired article was the comparison between ISIS weapon shops and maker culture. I have a lot of friends who are into that sort of stuff. One guy I know builds motorcycles out of scrap metal and garbage. People with those skills, the kind of people every city has thousands of, are perfectly capable of constructing these kinds of arsenals where they motivated and angry enough to want to do so. Now, what I've been talking about so far is how a hypothetical American insurgency could arm itself with the kind of weapons that would allow it to compete with the U.S. military. Not in an open field, obviously, but in an urban battleground. At this point, you may be asking yourselves, what good are a bunch of mortars and
Starting point is 00:24:41 tiny drones against tanks and artillery? Well, I have a couple of responses to that. First, it took the coalition nine months of brutal door-to-door fighting to kick ISIS out of Mosul. And second, the federal government would never get away with deploying the same kind of force against an American city that they did against Mosul. At least, not at first. Well, the official death toll in Mosul, according to the U.S. government, is only around a thousand civilians or so. Literally no one who fought there, reported there, or lives there believes that. They will be digging corpses out of collapsed
Starting point is 00:25:15 buildings in that city for the next 20 years. Some estimates put the real death toll at well over 25,000. It could even be several times that. Try and imagine the political reaction to watching a section of Chicago or Dallas just turned into powder. It's one thing for the U.S. Air Force to murder a bunch of foreigners 5,000 miles away. It's another thing entirely to do it in America. We're not going to be dropping bombs and launching missiles at American cities. U.S. troops will be sent in, mounted in light armored vehicles. Mortars and bomblets can do a lot of damage to those. The urban insurgents will have a couple of choices once the soldiers move in. Their first option would be to cede the protest camp to the military and disperse into the crowd. This would
Starting point is 00:26:00 carry a huge number of tactical benefits, but it would also mean losing hold on territory, which, for any kind of rebel movement, would be a huge blow. It's one thing to say, we're occupying Wall Street until these changes are made, and another to go from defending your barricades into a dispersed, violent insurgency. I don't think American leftists would take that tack. I can see them trying to defend their autonomous zone. And I can see the American military hard-pressed to dislodge them without committing war crimes. It would be a slow, grinding fight, the work of snipers, drones, vehicle-based IEDs, and home-brewed heavy weapons.
Starting point is 00:26:37 Things would be different in rural America. Let's go back to our hypothetical state of Jefferson, doing its damnedest to strangle California's water supply. I think the military would get involved pretty quickly there, and I think a rural insurgency would absolutely melt into the trees at the first sight of any significant American military presence. There would certainly be Afghan war veterans among the insurgents, and they would know exactly how to bleed an occupying army. I'd like to quote now from War, a fantastic book
Starting point is 00:27:06 by famed conflict journalist Sebastian Junger. He spent months embedded with an army platoon in the Korengal Valley, by far the most dangerous posting in all of Afghanistan. Most of what these soldiers experienced on a day-to-day basis was not the kind of face-to-face gunfight Hollywood loves to depict. Most nights, some young Afghan kid would crawl up a mountain in the darkness with an old cheap bolt-action rifle and fire a few rounds towards the American outpost, or COP. Here's Younger. Quote, Once I was at the operations center when single shots started coming in, and First Sergeant Caldwell headed for the door to deal with it. On his way out, I asked him what was going on.
Starting point is 00:27:44 Some jackass wasting our time, he said. That jackass was probably a local teenager who was paid by one of the insurgent groups to fire off a magazine's worth of ammo at the cop. The going rate was $5 a day. He could fire at the base until mortars started coming back at him, and then he could drop off the backside of the ridge and be home in 20 minutes. Mobility has always been the default choice of guerrilla fighters because they don't have access to the kinds of heavy weapons that would slow them down. The fact that networks of highly mobile amateurs can confound, even defeat, a professional army is the only thing that has prevented empires from completely determining
Starting point is 00:28:18 the course of history. Whether that is a good thing or not depends on what amateurs you're talking about, or what empires, but it does mean that you can't predict the outcome of a war simply by looking at the numbers. For every technological advantage held by the Americans, the Taliban seem to have an equivalent or a countermeasure. Apache helicopters have thermal imaging that reveals body heat on the mountainside, so Taliban fighters disappear by covering themselves in a blanket on a warm rock. The Americans use unmanned drones to pinpoint the enemy, but the Taliban can do the same thing by watching the flocks of crows
Starting point is 00:28:48 that circle American soldiers looking for scraps of food. The Americans have virtually unlimited firepower, so the Taliban send only one guy to take on an entire firebase. Whether or not he gets killed, he will have succeeded in gumming up the machine for yet one more day. Everything in war is simple, but the simplest thing is difficult,
Starting point is 00:29:08 the military theorist Karl von Clausewitz wrote in the 1820s. The difficulties accumulate and end by producing a sort of friction. We don't fight, we don't riot, even when the war's outside our door. Welcome, I'm Danny Trejo. Won't you join me at the fire and dare enter. Nocturnum. Tales from the Shadows. Presented by iHeart and Sonora. An anthology of modern day horror stories.
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Starting point is 00:30:23 Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Now, friction, gumming up the machine. That is exactly the route any group of smart insurgents would need to take in order to defeat the United States military. We've all seen the posers who love to flex with their AR-15s on social media and talk about how they need their assault rifles to fight tyranny, I'm not going to make a pro or anti-gun argument here. But I do want to point out that,
Starting point is 00:30:51 from the point of view of a rebel group, an old rusty bolt-action rifle can be just as effective at gumming up the machine as a $3,500 tactical black rifle with lasers and rails and shit. In fact, you don't even need the rifle or the human volunteer. Armed drones can accomplish a similar goal without risking a life. The reality, of course,
Starting point is 00:31:11 is that a variety of tactics would be used. Some groups sending out lone snipers, others fielding drones with occasional raids and assaults by combat units. But, I suspect, in terms of their sheer ability to produce friction, no current product has as much promise as drones. On the 8th of January, 2018, the Russian Ministry of Defense released a statement that the Kamenim airbase in Syria had been attacked by sudden mortar fire, killing two servicemen. Had this been true, the attack would have been hardly newsworthy. But the reality, which came out weeks later after intensive open-source investigation by journalists, is that the Kamenim airbase was assaulted on at least three separate occasions
Starting point is 00:31:51 by successive waves of handmade attack drones. These drones killed at least two Russian soldiers, but also damaged and grounded an unknown number of jets. We have pictures of at least one of them. While the drones were all destroyed by Russian defenses, many of them were able to effectively loose their payloads, and the attacks effectively grounded the entire airbase for the better part of a week. There are pictures of these drones. I'll have a few uploaded to the site, but to describe them, if you ever built one of those styrofoam model planes, the giant ones with like a four-foot wingspan that you toss into
Starting point is 00:32:24 the sky, well these looked a lot like that, but with a motor and an engine and pylons on the bottom that you can attach bombs to. So these drones didn't even require someone have the cash to afford a DJI Phantom. Handmade drones, crafted from literally balsa wood and styrofoam, grounded a Russian air base filled with multi-million dollar fighter jets. The bombs, in case you're wondering, are basically big plastic tubes filled with gunpowder and BBs. That's all you need, it turns out, to kill people and puncture airplane gas tanks. I encourage you to take a look at the picture I'll post and see just how rudimentary these weapons are. Most people listening to this podcast could probably build one with minor guidance, given the right equipment. At least 18 drones were used in three successive attack waves.
Starting point is 00:33:10 It's hard to say exactly how much these cost to prepare, but just looking at them, I wouldn't be surprised if the whole attack cost $20,000 or less. That's a pretty good rate of return when it comes to silencing an entire modern airbase for a week. turn when it comes to silencing an entire modern air base for a week. Air power is traditionally one of, if not the, biggest advantages the United States takes to war. Think of the disastrous morale impact of knowing your helicopters and jets were grounded, knowing your air support had been reduced or even knocked out because some hillbilly redneck rigged together an air force for the cost of a Mazda Miata. And everything we've talked about so far, all these potential tactics and weapons, has mostly ignored the fact that the
Starting point is 00:33:51 United States is filled with 3D printers. I know individual people who own those things, and they get more common and more effective every year. You've probably read a few hysterical articles over the years about the terrible threat of 3D printed guns. Let me tell you, those things are the very least of your worries. A shitty pistol that explodes in your hand half the time is not nearly as scary as the suicide drones that terrorist groups have already made using machines that cost a few thousand dollars. In November of 2017, one such group in Syria bombed the Kafr Home refugee camp with a device that looked like a tiny bomb with an engine, and that is essentially what it was. That picture will be up on the site as well. Eagle-eyed
Starting point is 00:34:30 investigators quickly realized that the drone was constructed using the telltale honeycomb pattern of a low-end 3D printer. According to All3DP, quote, these homemade drones and guided bombs offer terrorist organizations a number of advantages over missile strikes. These drones can evade missile warning receivers, can't be decoyed away from their target, and can be launched from anywhere. In other words, because mass-produced drones like the DJI Phantom are legal products and stuff, there are ways to disable them, backdoors and known weaknesses governments can exploit. A home-built drone is much more difficult to counter, and drones are not the only thing you can build with a 3D printer. I'd like to quote now from an article in National Interest.
Starting point is 00:35:10 Army researchers have devised a method to produce ceramic body armor, lightweight but strong, from a 3D printer. Except that 3D printers are meant to print out knick-knacks, not flak jackets, which means that engineers had to hack the printer to get the job done. engineers had to hack the printer to get the job done. Lionel Vargas Gonzalez, a researcher at the Army Research Laboratory, sees 3D printer ceramics as the next avenue for armor, because we're going to be able to, in theory, design armor in a way that we can attach multiple materials together to a single armor plate, and be able to provide ways for the armor to perform better than it can be just based on material alone. The Industrial Revolution forever put an end to the era in which settled, so-called civilized peoples had to worry about invasions from nomadic warrior people. Throughout all of
Starting point is 00:35:51 recorded history up until that point, every few centuries some new tribe of horse-mounted warriors would trot down from the Asian steppes and fuck up an empire or three. Now we're crossing into a new era where any group of sufficiently motivated people can produce military-grade weaponry via infrastructure small enough to fit into the average house. And maybe now, understanding that, it's easier to understand how even the mighty U.S. military could be overwhelmed by an insurgency. Or, as I'm theorizing, several insurgencies. The most U.S. troops ever deployed to Iraq during the occupation was 166,000 men. These soldiers will tell you they were nearly always undermanned.
Starting point is 00:36:29 In fact, the only thing that made the occupation possible was an equal number of contractors, many from Bangladesh and other poor countries, doing dangerous jobs like driving supply trucks down booby-trapped roads in lieu of U.S. servicemen and women. Less than 40 million people live in Iraq. The country is 168,754 square miles. There are more than 320 million Americans, spread out over more than 3.7 million square miles. If one American city rose up against the federal government, 10 or 20,000 soldiers could suppress the rebellion without mass destruction. If one rural chunk of one state, like Northern California, broke out in a bloody insurgency,
Starting point is 00:37:09 it might take longer to suppress, but our armed forces would certainly have the manpower. But what about four or five cities and counties in a dozen American states? What if it spread even more widely than that? For most of the occupation in Iraq, U.S. forces were chronically short of manpower. In 2007, the army was desperate enough to massively reduce their recruitment standards. This had predictable consequences. From a CBS article at the time, quote, the number of incoming soldiers with prior felony arrests or convictions has more than tripled in the past five years. This year alone, the army accepted an estimated 8,000 recruits with rap sheets,
Starting point is 00:37:49 reports CBS News correspondent Kimberly Dozier. Most are guilty of misdemeanors, but around 100 in the past year had felony convictions. Burglaries and narcotics are probably our two top categories, according to Colonel Sheila Hickman. Now, I'd like to read an excerpt from a Politico article written by a vet named John Spencer. He's one of the officers who had to deal with the consequences of this major manpower shortage. In 2008, when I was an infantry company commander in charge of over 140 soldiers in Baghdad, I saw firsthand how the declining number of volunteers is hurting the military.
Starting point is 00:38:17 36 of my men were forced to deploy even though their terms of service were up, a controversial military policy known as stop loss or the backdoor draft. To meet the bare minimum number of soldiers in a unit, my unit took men who were medically unfit to fight. I had soldiers that could not leave our compound because they were medically prohibited from wearing body armor or classified as mentally unfit. I had soldiers taking antidepressant, sleeping, anxiety, and other drugs. I had a mentally unstable private viciously attack
Starting point is 00:38:44 his sergeant, causing lifelong damage and multiple other problem soldiers that detracted from the combat performance of my unit. This was symptomatic throughout the Army. I found an even more damning account in the U.S. Army War College's report on the Iraq War, which you can all download and read for free right now, if you'd like. This section concerns a National Guard unit from California sent into Iraq in a desperate attempt to deal with the crippling manpower shortage. Quote,
Starting point is 00:39:11 By summer, accusations surfaced that the battalion's leaders had condoned illegal activities with prisoners, and U.S. officers found a video of unit non-commissioned officers abusing seven prisoners by kicking them in their genitals and shocking them with a taser. The initial investigation into detainee abuse uncovered systematic problems with the battalion, leading to at least 10 other investigations that revealed a negative command climate. The battalion commander, Lieutenant Colonel Patrick Frey, was an eccentric officer who had first fought in Vietnam before fighting as a mercenary in Rhodesia. In Iraq, he carried a tomahawk that he cleared at clearing
Starting point is 00:39:45 barrels and used to knight soldiers during promotion ceremonies. Frey tolerated other similar eccentric behavior in his subordinates, such as allowing soldiers to carry samurai swords on patrol. As the investigations expanded, investigators discovered that Frey had almost been relieved to command during the battalion's pre-deployment training, and one of the generals responsible for training the unit had predicted Frey would get soldiers killed. Frey had also been accused of mistreating his own troops during mobilization training, placing some of them in a survival school-style isolation to toughen them and causing a near-mutiny that came to the attention of the Los Angeles Times. The pattern of abuses and poor leadership had continued in Iraq. Battalion
Starting point is 00:40:22 leaders had interpreted rules of engagement aggressively, leading one investigator to describe Frey and his men as trying to fight World War III. It was them against the world. Lower standards mean worse soldiers. Soldiers who might be more willing to loot or rape or lose their temper after a sniper attack and take it out on civilians. That, of course, would fuel the insurgency and make the task of the soldiers even harder. Our military has been in this situation constantly for almost 20 years, and we still don't have a great handle on the problem. The manpower needs and emotional stressors of fighting a war on American soil would be even greater. Our military right now is facing a major manpower shortage. It's not quite a crisis, but it's an issue for our forces at their current state of activity. The day before we recorded this episode, the news
Starting point is 00:41:11 dropped that Commandant of the Marine Corps, General Robert Neller, had just allowed some of his own emails to leak to the press. He did this because he was deeply worried about the impact President Trump's deployment of the military to the border has had on the readiness of his troops. Quote, the combat readiness of 2nd Marine Expeditionary Force, one-third of the combat power of the Marine Corps, is degraded and will continue to degrade given current conditions. A series of widespread and violent insurgencies could very, very quickly overtax the U.S. military. If it happens, it will occur so much quicker than most Americans, who view our military as all but omnipotent, would ever expect. That's the consequence of two decades of incessant warfare. Now, this does not mean an insurgency would be able to defeat
Starting point is 00:41:54 our military on the battlefield. I'm not imagining U.S. soldiers in full flight waving white flags and surrendering to some army of gun-toting bubba's or antifa. That's not how this kind of war works. Instead, I'm imagining a situation that looks a lot more like Afghanistan now, or Iraq before the surge, where the U.S. military controls certain areas, islands of stability, but are forced to pull back and at least temporarily cede control of chunks of the country to separatists and insurgents. The amount of America that can be controlled and governed will be dictated by the military's manpower. It will ebb a little more each day. Soldiers die and operational capacity is degraded more and more. The United States military is ready for many different situations,
Starting point is 00:42:35 but it is not prepared to fight in American cities, nor is it prepared for the scale of conflict a second American civil war would bring. It can handle foreign militaries. It can sort of handle insurgents in Afghanistan. But I don't think it can handle Foucault's boomerang. Thank you. Go make your beats and count your heartbeats before the whole earth gets swallowed So motion sick and sorta stuck under something slick The sea and salty breeze, no grip for shit, watch them slip, ick What kind of candle has a wick on both ends? Anyway, any day, but this one is enemy Every morning say ten of these, itchy for life Tryna get into some Tennessee tea trying to get into some capital t
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