It Could Happen Here - How To Build A Revolution: Myanmar, Part 4

Episode Date: November 10, 2022

When governments around the world abandoned the spring revolution, Myanmar’s rebels found support from people all over the world instead. Music for this series was provided by Rebel Riot, check out their Bandcamp here https://therebelriot.bandcamp.com/album/one-daySee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Being the only two journalists in town, and also both giant white guys, we kind of stood out, and taking a taxi to a sensitive interview isn't always a smart choice. Even when it was, they frequently dropped us off in the wrong place and we'd end up walking anyway. Everyone in Mae Sot rides scooters, but riding without a helmet can get you a fine. We figured that as relative novices to the world of scooting, we'd probably fuck something up, and we'd probably be better off walking. We'd probably fuck something up, and we'd probably be better off walking. When the time came to meet Meowc though, he offered us a ride.

That was very nice, but it put us in an interesting position. What exactly do you say when a guy you've never met, who is a friend of a guy you DM'd on Reddit, who you know is engaged in the illegal production and smuggling of guns into a war zone, offers to pick you up at the cafe so you can go out for dinner. We decided to call our friend, a long-suffering guy we go to when we have a security question, Paul. At his request, we're keeping him anonymous.

But he works in security and has an extensive professional background dealing with situations just like this. Or maybe mostly like this. Yeah, so basically, Paul, we're meeting with these people uh we don't have an established human chain with them of trust they're they're just a reddit account that james has been talking with but for like six or seven months um it doesn't really seem like there's much else we can do besides uh keep our eyes open and try to meet in a neutral place. Yeah, I mean, the big concern is that it would be the government, which it's not. From what you guys have said, the government simply doesn't have the wherewithal to do operations like this.

And I mean, rebel groups like this, they're trying, they want to get everything out there they can. So, yeah, is there a concern about the fact that you don't have a chain of people that can vouch for each other? Yeah. But the situation they're in, everything's in their favor. Everything's in your favor. Even minor cultural faux pas shouldn't be an issue. With Paul's help, we came up with a watertight plan.

I should note here that he was at least as concerned with our fate as he was with the fate of the pair of pants he'd loaned James for the trip. And I mean, yeah, it's a story that needs to get out. So being slightly lax on the rules while knowing that it's in everybody's favor, that it goes well, I guess you gotta bend the rules sometimes. Yep.

I guess we'll check in with people, try and do proof of life. Yeah, we'll do a proof of life I will send you a picture of James holding a piece of paper that says big wife guy and if we are kidnapped I'll send you a picture of me that says

Elon Musk will be a good custodian of Twitter okay I'll know that that's the that's the sign. You know, I'll... Get a Blackhawk down here. Yeah, I'll figure out something.

Me and a few friends will be on our way. That sounds awful. James has my favorite pants. Yeah, you gotta get those pants back. Oh yeah, this is all about the pants. If I find James' dead body, I'm getting those pants off. Luckily, both I and Paul's trousers made it back that night. The only damage was to several delicious plates of food. Meowk, his fiancé, and their godfather were the most gracious hosts,

and we decided not to record that first night. Instead, we met up the next day. But there is one thing from that night that I want to share with you. Rather than explaining it, I'll let the song Meowth played for us talk to you through the beautiful medium of punk music. Bella Ciao, of course, is an anti-fascist anthem. But in its original version, it tells the story of a young partisan

who says goodbye to his girlfriend before he goes off to fight Italian fascists. If he dies, he says, he wants to be buried under a flower in the mountains, so people will see it and remember him. Bago daun hori, bitolazkazko Beratxau, beratxau, beratxau, txau, txau Dinutaro, doi jane txari Bide mundu iesto dupa Erebalusio, hauek ez balat Beratxau, beratxau, beratxau, txau, txau

Oro delante, irazo bat, jump From the left hand, it has a weapon And it shall never sink again All of the soul, need a new learning Better jump, better jump, better jump, jump, jump You won't place hold, hold your destiny While the world is shaking From below, it's shaking Better jump, better jump, better jump, jump, jump After a few months of revolution, all our characters found themselves mourning their friends and many of them were in the mountains.

Their struggle is one they see in the same vein as the Italian partisans who fought fascism in their mountains and the anti-fascists who came from around the world to fight in the Spanish Civil War. I first heard that song, Bella Ciao, from a Spanish Civil War veteran. And it's a strange closing of the loop to be here, sitting, hearing it, with young people who, just like the Spanish Republicans, are fighting a coup, with next to no international support and a critical shortage of weapons. But Mian was trying his best to fix that shortage.

A month into what would become the Spring Revolution, and the stakes had become clear when the first protester would shot, and they kept marching. When people decided to go back into the streets, they showed that the future of their country was worth dying for. A few weeks later, some of them decided it was also worth killing for. It was about then that Meowth's buddy, and keen Reddit user DaddyUMCD,

said he'd been online, and he reckoned they could use their 3D printers, a steel pipe and the expertise of some strangers on the internet to arm themselves. The promise of revolutionary technology would take quite some time to have any kind of battlefield impact in Myanmar but the effects of a different kind of revolution would be felt immediately. But the nation's young activists took up arms against their government. I was like, I'm interested in hardware and 3D printing, especially my profession is

augmented and virtual reality and want to test 3D printing is my hobby, so I just download some files from Thinkiverse or other 3D printing community and just do it for my desk. Not specially.

Not specially. Yeah. Like desk toys and stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just twice, yes. What did you think of guns then? I have never imagined of a gun because we have been living in a military booth

for a long time. So we afraid of soldier. Especially not the soldier. Especially the gun that they hold. So we are so afraid of that especially not the soldier especially the gang that they hold so we are so afraid of that so we never imagined like like we are the same as in North Korea we are so afraid of that so we never imagined of making gang but after that the story began. At first Meowk and his team felt safe. Despite the dangerous nature of their work, he felt that Tatmadaw was so behind the times they wouldn't even know what a 3D printer was.

Like at those times, the military didn't know or didn't give a fuck about 3D printing. So it is okay at those times. It's really okay. When they come, we need to hide the canvas. If they see 3D printer, that's okay. Because we will say this is for our job or this is for some hobby that we can see at those times. But not this time.

This time, if they find 3D printer, yes, come, come, go to jail like this. Or headshot. Yeah, headshot. Soon, that headshot became a lot closer to being a possibility. It's like as soon as we finished the second FTC-9, we're trying to test it in Yangon, and we send it to our warehouse. But unfortunately, this warehouse explodes

and ambushed by the military, and this gun is taken by the military. And they announced this on the news by picturing this like a handmade gun. And they don't give a fuck about this. Just a handmade gun. They just did it at the very first time. But later and later, well, later and later, when the second time they were arrested, at that time, they arrested my revolutionary from my team.

So I told him about the efficiency and how to use and the history of the game. At the time, maybe he was an investigator and he told the truth. At that time, he said, like, the FGC-9. Yeah. Announced the name FGC-9. Before, at the very first time, he announced the gun from the Turkish. Yeah.

The gun from the Turkish. Yeah, yeah. If you missed that, they thought the guns were Turkish. The reason we giggled at this is that whenever we see videos of combat in Myanmar, James and I send them to a group chat and try to work out what the weapons are and where they came from. Nearly every time we're stumped, the guns turn out to be some kind of niche Turkish shotgun made to look like an AR-15. It seems the military were operating on the same assumption.

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Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation. Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jack Peace Thomas, the host of a brand new Black Effect

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to learn some of the skills he was going to need to fight back against the Tatmadaw. I was going the Monday as a community leader. So I'm not like, I'm not have a PDF training or something like that. I just go as a community leader. So I met with some gang specialist or some trainer. And I said, I want to know how to shoot gang printed guns to the EAOs for testing.

We asked if it was scary being an undercover gun runner in a dictatorship. He says it was, but he found that he had a powerful ally in his fight, homophobia. Yeah, of course, of course,

but we need to disguise it. So, you know. Disguise it, yeah. Yeah, disguise it. I just have long hair. Yeah. So, I act like a gay so you know that the military has so china and equality so they hate gays that's why this is our advantage the

military assuming myok was gay and therefore incapable of fighting let him go miyak kept his mouth shut and let their homophobia help him smuggle the guns with which he hopes to help topple the regime that places so much stock in values like these. Myok said he had to go to the jungle to prove that his guns worked, because at first, the EAOs didn't believe him. About the gang, no one believed that. No one believed that. So we have to make it fast and show them.

So we made it fast, and we said we got a gang. It's a self-ful. We lied. We need to lie and we send this to the EEO. Then they made it and it didn't work out and they adjust and it worked out. Okay, yeah. How did they feel when they found out? Oh, one of my revolutionary in the EU states said, oh, they're really, really happy. They said, all of the friends are

coming to this protest, let's do it. Right now, yes, like that. Almost everyone we met spent time in the jungle. Rooney, that's a nom de guerre, not a given name, started off as a protester. And just like everyone else, he fled into the jungle to avoid being murdered by the government, and to learn from the ethnic armed organizations how to fight back. to make a revolution. So at that time, he goes to the EEO states

and he learns the trainings, you know, even especially the explosive trainings. And he goes back to the town and he starts making these explosives with the help of the EEO teachers. After learning from the EAOs, he came back to Yangon to put his knowledge to use. Of course, just like Myok's gun-making team

and the street protesters who learned from Hong Kongers, he took to YouTube and Google to try and find a better way to build killing machines. And they want to improve, so they learn by themselves. Just like DIY, they learn by themselves with Google, with YouTube. So later and later, even they can make TNT and ETN. Wow, okay. Using YouTube, he lives on YouTube. Yes, of course. Nearly everyone we met at some point Googled something like how to make gun or how to make bomb. Now, this is not ideal OPSEC, but it speaks to the desperation of the times. They used crowdfunding websites to raise money for ingredients,

and Rooney soon started putting his knowledge into practice. What that meant was that people died. He killed human beings with the explosives that he made. Now, those people would have killed Rooney or anyone else we've spoken to in this series. He was defending himself and others by making killing machines. But still, if you're a decent person, it's not easy to watch your work result in a stranger being blown into a pink mist. He is not proud of that.

But, you know, he is never trying to kill even a cat or any man. He is sad, but he has to do because of revolution. Yes, of revolution. Revolution was in Rooney's blood. The military had stolen his house as a kid, and he'd grown up with his uncle sharing memories of the 1988 pro-democracy uprising and its violent repression. He'd seen his family, his cousin, brothers, and their parents harassed for his whole life. Now he had a chance to fight back. He carried out hundreds of missions before he eventually had to flee the city when an accident led to serious injury. Like in June 7, there is nine mission.

So he has to make nine bones, really big bones. So they're trying to assemble these bones. One of his friends is smoking, and this family is going to camp out. After the blast, he had to run away from his house before the police arrived. His friend was not so lucky and is in jail now. Rooney is mostly recovered, but it's not safe for him to go back, so he's hoping to make a new start in Maison. safe for him to go back, so he's hoping to make a new start in Mesant. The fight didn't stay in Yangon and Apador either. For villagers living outside, the coup was just as real, but so was a desire to fight back. People outside of town found themselves in the crosshairs

of the Tatmadaw as well. The military employs a strategy which they call four cuts. It's designed to alienate the rebels from local support. It doesn't work. This kind of scorched earth stuff has never worked. Didn't work when the Nazis tried it in Europe. Didn't work when the US tried it in the Middle East or Vietnam. Doesn't work when Israel keeps doing it. And it doesn't work in Myanmar. What it does do is drive people who lose their families to pick up a gun and kill soldiers. And it's not hard to see why. I just want to play you our conversation watching one of Andy's videos about one of hundreds of massacres that have happened since last February. And as a warning, the stuff we're going to talk about is about as horrible as stuff can be.

But yeah, basically, about, I think 28 people were killed that day. They just came into a village and shot everyone. That's the handmade guns that these villagers had, but it was just, they weren't shooting anyone. They just had it. Yeah. That's all the, everyone died. All these guys died. Look at that. his hands tied? Yeah, yeah. Fucking looks like they gave up trying to tie their hands to the shop. Yeah. It's electrical cable. That's what that looks like.

And they burned the whole village down. Yeah, they did. Fucking hell, man. Yeah. Christ. You guys okay? Yeah. Yeah, man.

Fucking hell. And that's why I'm saying, you know fucking, look at all the brains out, you know? Yeah. Yeah. We burned them all. Yeah, all these kids. They weren't even 18. Yeah, that's a kid, man.

Fuck. So all the villagers that ran away, they took a photo of the village from afar. They burned their relatives and then left? Yeah. Oh, Jesus fucking Christ. Yeah, it was all... This is every bit as fucking horrible as the shit. Andy says a non-profit called Liberate Myanmar supports the families every month, keeping them fed and sheltered.

Because however hard the government tries to divide the people from one another, it always seems to fail. Instead, it just pushes them closer and sheltered. Because however hard the government tries to divide the people from one another, it always seems to fail. Instead, it just pushes them closer and closer together. Welcome, I'm Danny Thrill. Won't you join me at the fire and dare enter. Nocturnum, Tales from the Shadows, presented by iHeart and Sonorum. An anthology of modern day horror stories inspired by the legends of Latin America. From ghastly encounters with shapeshifters to bone-chilling brushes with supernatural creatures.

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Apple Podcasts, or wherever else you get your podcasts. Check out betteroffline.com. On Thanksgiving Day, 1999, a five-year-old boy floated alone in the ocean. He had lost his mother trying to reach Florida from Cuba. He looked like a little angel. I mean, he looked so fresh. And his name, Elian Gonzalez, will make headlines everywhere. Elian Gonzalez.

Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian. Elian Gonzalez. At the heart of the story is a young boy and the question of who he belongs with. His father in Cuba.

Mr. Gonzalez wanted to go home and he wanted to take his son with him. Or his relatives in Miami. Imagine that your mother died trying to get you to freedom. At the heart of it all is still this painful family separation. Something that as a Cuban, I know all too well. Listen to Chess Peace, the Elian Gonzalez story, as part of the My Cultura podcast network, available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey, I'm Jack Peace Thomas, the host of a brand new Black Effect original series,

Black Lit, the podcast for diving deep into the rich world of Black literature. I'm Jack Peace Thomas, and I'm inviting you to join me and a vibrant community of literary enthusiasts dedicated to protecting and celebrating our stories. Black Lit is for the page turners, for those who listen to audiobooks while commuting or running errands for those who find themselves seeking solace, wisdom, and refuge between the chapters. From thought-provoking novels to powerful poetry, we'll explore the stories that shape our culture. Together, we'll dissect classics and contemporary works while uncovering the stories of the brilliant writers behind them. Blacklit is here to amplify the voices of black writers and to bring their words to life.

Listen to Blacklit on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. While we were in Thailand, having a drink on a rooftop actually and talking about some kind of meditation retreat that a guy we'd met had gone on, we got to see some of the action for ourselves. That night was a fun one. We were hanging out with some non-profit folks and we'd acquired some pretty terrible whiskey. At various points in the evening, we would ambush one of the boys and tell them they'd been shot in the arm or the leg and have the others rush into practice their stop the bleed skills.

Robert and I demonstrated some improvised carrying techniques and how to effectively turn and drop to the floor when you're in the intimate presence of a grenade. Everyone else at the party probably thought we were pretty strange, but we were having fun. a grenade. Everyone else at the party probably thought we were pretty strange, but we were having fun. Then, in the distance, we saw a huge yellow flash. It took a few seconds of us all wondering if that whiskey had sent us blind before the boom reached us. At first, we thought it was one of the airstrikes that had been happening in the border region. But it was close, and it was just one huge boom, not the rockets and cluster bombs the Tatmadaw likes to drop on civilians. close and it was just one huge boom, not the rockets and cluster bombs the Tatmadaw likes to drop on civilians. Within minutes, minutes of nervously waiting on the rooftop to see

what was coming next, Andy's phone started buzzing. It was a car bomb, and it had gone off about 100 yards from the border. Right in the middle of it. Now you're fucking scaring me. How did they fucking get it in there? Immediately we had questions, but very few answers. Car bombs hadn't been a thing thus far in the revolution. This was new. Car bombs are also extremely scary.

It's hard not to be around cars in a city. And when any one of those cars might kill you, it's hard to do anything feeling any semblance of safety. I wanna know who's did- well. I mean yeah. UG or? UG probably. Yeah. But that- no car bombs, I've never heard of it.

But they- It hasn't happened yet, right? Yeah, what would it be? Like, is it somebody who's driving it, or do they kind of like manage- I don't think it's someone driving it, is it? You don't see anything there. No, I mean, it could have been. Is it by the...

Because if there was a person in there, there wouldn't be anything left of that. Yeah, you wouldn't see the person. No, no, no, but the thing is, look, there's the fence. That looks like it was there when it exploded. Oh, like it was parked. Yeah, it was... It looks like it's by the shops.

It's not right in front of... It's right by the bridge. But I don't know what happened. We still aren't sure who set off the car bomb, or if anyone died. In a conflict like the one in Myanmar, it's sometimes as confusing as it is scary. The military are more than capable of a false flag style attack, killing civilians and then blaming the PDF, and it has done this before. That's what totalitarianism does.

It aims to control every aspect of everyday life, even the truth. The jungle haunted us the whole time we were there. Unattainable, but right next door. Just a few miles away, in Lhaka, the fight was raging. Lhaka is what's called a friendship town. It was built with Japanese money as a place for K&U fighters to live after they put down their arms. It was supposed to be a symbol of place for K&U fighters to live after they put down their arms. It was supposed to be a symbol of hope in a new peaceful and democratic Myanmar.

Now it's a battlefield. But while we couldn't get there, we could walk along the riverbank and look at the jungle and imagine what it must be like up in those mountains, which we did almost every day. Myanmar itself looms like a mountain over the town of Mae Sot. It's a border town without a border. But the city is surrounded by refugee camps, non-profit offices, and even museums for political prisoners that can't exist on the other side of the river. One day, we took a cab to see a monastery on a bluff overlooking the river. Down into Myanmar, we could see a casino still doing business with Chinese tourists despite the bombing

nearby. On the walls of the monastery were colorful but horrific scenes of rape and murder, Buddhist stages of hell, a reminder that, according to the four noble truths of Buddhism, all life is suffering and greed is the cause of suffering. The same thing could be said for the refugees and fighters forced to hide in the endless green of the jungle, driven away from their homes by the greed of men who worship power. It Could Happen Here is a production of Cool Zone Media. For more podcasts from Cool Zone Media, visit our website, coolzonemedia.com, or check us out on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you listen to podcasts.

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