It Could Happen Here - Mamdani’s Victory: Winners, Losers, and Crashouts

Episode Date: November 10, 2025

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CoreZone Media. Welcome to It Could Happen here, a podcast. We're in the wake of Mom Dami's victory. We are reviving the old 2016 slogan, eat your pheasins, drink, your wine, your days are number of. bourgeois swine. I am your host Mia Wong and with me is Garrison Davis looking unhappy. Well this is

actually the new mandatory greeting in New York as to read yesterday yeah. Instead of saying hi on the subway or just trying to avoid each other, we have to all recite this now. It's pretty crazy. FDR used to call the U.S. to 48 states the Soviet of Seattle and I haven't quite

figured out what the version of that work New York is yet but no no the New York City nationalism it really is a thing

yeah yeah even if the country falls I think I think New York will remain as a remain as a city

state beacon yeah see unfortunately I'm having to temper my sort of Chicago win like this is a tier two Chinese

city like stuff for this and I'm also having to temper my like reflexive not even

reflexive my incredibly well thought out in detailed thoughts on electoralism. And so today, today, if I have to cover electoralism positively, we're doing this in sports format. We are looking at what's been going on with the reaction to Mom Donnie's win. We are fully, we are fully doing winners and losers. It's going to be great. We're going to have a good time.

I mean, I'm still traumatized from the World Series, so I don't really appreciate the Framing. I actually, the World Series Game 7, I was watching it at a bar, and then I had to go across town to a different bar

because I knew Zoron was doing the little gay bar hop on the same night as the World Series finale. So I missed the last 30 minutes. I had to leave during the ninth inning when the Blue Jays were still ahead. Oh, no. And then in transport,

the Dodgers tie, they did two extra innings, and then one. And it was devastating. And then I saw Bob Dottie dancing at a gay club like 10 minutes later. It was outrageous. You're welcome, welcome to being a Seattle Mariners fan. This is what it is like all the time for us every second.

I'm well aware. No, of course. What I'm not cheering for the Jay is usually, usually I'm cheering for the Mariners. So I know. And again, the only way to survive this is to become a truly transcendent true Mariners fan where you are not in this for winning a. and losing. You're in this for the fact that we had a guy whose name was big dumper because his ass was big as fuck and he hit 60 home runs. And that's what you're in

this game for. Okay, okay. We're going to turn this around. We're going to turn this around. We're going to actually start with winners with, I think the most serious thing that we're going to do today. Not a high bar. Yeah, not a high bar. But I think in the words of the great John Boyce. This moment belongs to her, and that's Lindsay Bolin, who was the first woman to accuse Cuomo of sexual harassment, who is one of the bravest

women I've ever seen, and she's having a great time. That's good. There's a bunch of pictures of her going around that she's posting. She's so happy. It rocks. She's, yeah, she's just having a great time. This is like a dual

pronged moment, right? One prong is just seeing Andrew Cuomo get completely humiliated for the second time in a row. Yes. And then the whole, the whole, you know, like, prospective hope of what a Mamdani mayoral occupation could mean, it's like a whole separate thing than just watching Cuomo get absolutely decimated, right? If there was someone who was only half as good as Mom Dani who destroyed Cuomo,

it would still be fun to laugh at Cuomo, the fact that it's Mom Dani is just a little bit of like an extra, extra icing on top, I guess. Yeah, and I want to read a quote from her that she gave. This was from before, as best I can tell since the actual win, she's just been, like, partying

and hasn't really been giving, like... I think she went on democracy now, but, like, she had this great line from this piece in the Independent that was titled, We Will Beat These Monsters. This was from the original primary win. I hope every woman who has ever faced

an abuser like Cuomo knows she doesn't have to be ashamed, She doesn't have to hide because we will beat these monsters. New Yorker said no more to Andrew Cuomo, and that is just remarkable. And this shit rocks. This rocks. Fuck him. Especially Cuomo, who ran his campaign on being like, it's dangerous to be a woman on the subway.

And we're like, why? Because you're going to be on it. Yeah. Like what? Like his whole, his whole law and order, New York is a dangerous, scary place to live. Because there's predators out there. It was like a main part of his campaign. Yeah.

Meanwhile, four years ago, he resigned because he was a predator. Yeah, 11, 11 women came forward. Like, that's remarkable. It's astounding. And, you know, this is, hopefully this is, this is the beginning of many, many, many defeats that these fucking people will have over the coming years. Hopefully the last defeat for Cuomo, but for others of his ill. Yeah.

Yeah, yeah, these abusers. There are, there are many, many people who hold. of a whole variety of offices and sometimes they're just like your boss or someone you work with or someone yeah and fuck them we're gonna beat them all this rocks so that that's that's winner number

one winner number two people with childs people with childs wow people with child look I agree I got so little sleep last night I was I have no excuse I was up being extremely gay

at like four in the morning I'm really tired Yeah, people with children Getting free child care A thing that is in fact really good Free child care would be Would be pretty cool And it's one of the few things on the Mamdani platform

That like the governor herself is Pretty set on helping to achieve And you know, there's Spike Lee Who's having a great time partying Is just just loving it It's great, it's great That's good. Yeah, renters, also good.

Yeah, people who live in rent-stabilized departments getting not the rent-increased increased, and also there being more rent-controlled housing built. Good, good things, good things. People who buy food? When I say people who buy food, right, you would think that's all people. Most of the people who we are going to be talking about on this list, those motherfuckers have not set foot in a grocery store in a decade. there really truly is

a class divide between people who buy food and people who do not ever buy their own food yeah it's like around if you make around $200,000 a year based on the time that you spend procuring your own groceries

people argue that it's more efficient for you to order or have people bring food to you and not do any of that work yourself yeah and you know so we have that We have, you know, I think that there's a sort of macro point you can make here about, you know, the ties between affordability and the sort of politics affordability and the ways in which there are a bunch of people who would affect. And then there is the top 5% of the U.S. who do 50% of the country's consumer spending, who this is not going to affect because they do 50% of their consumer spending on bullshit.

And also, I want to, I'm going to declare myself a winner because I fucking hate Modi and Zoron called me. Modi a war criminal and specifically talked about his mass killings of Muslims in Gujarat, which is the first time I've ever seen the major American politician talk about that. And fuck him, he's the butcher of Gujarat, eat shit. Yeah, this is a kind of short winners section because, you know, I could list like people in New York City, like, who aren't really rich. Garrison Davis. Right. Like, you know, but this is mostly a losers episode.

this is mostly a oh my fucking God the right is doing a crash out and oh boy there is some great stuff so I want to start the losers with Laura Ingram who I

the Chevron on her show who who who Laura Ingraham wow Fox News host evil she's still on Fox News huh? Yeah yeah her her Fox News thing the Chevron on it was by winning

the Democrats are actually losing which is the most God I hope so from your mouth to God's ears Laura it's so good it's the most there's a whole genre

of this if I wanted to I literally could have just pulled things that were like the Democrats are winning by actually losing like there's like Ross Douthit who's like the sort of make work higher like he's one of the old school make work higher new york times call him this he's like a very very weird catholic who used to advocate catholics like taking the benedict option and going into the woods and not interacting with society which please ross dothet and you're ill i mean that's not very catholic please do that i you if you want to go argue theology with ross dothith go fucking go for it happily happy go do this um yeah but like you know doubt thing the new york times immediately is like mom

Johnny's victory is less significant than you think. And it's like, ah, yes, we are, we are getting owed, we are not owned, we are not owned, et cetera, et cetera, solely turning into a corncob. Pumping the copium straight into my veins, yeah. Mm-hmm. It's truly amazing stuff. I think in the just pure cope vein is, did you see the Mike Sernovich post about this? No, no. Oh, my God.

Okay, so I'm not going to, how do I say this? I'm not going to, so he's quote tweeting a video that's just like, like a five-minute video of like the Zedio whatever live stream of the after party and it's just Sernovich is just going this is a rowdy masculine environment you can feel the energy as the Heritage Foundation is putting members through a struggle session and demanding a DEI dean the left is winning true true and then like that is that is happening right now we'll be doing a piece on the heritage struggle sessions probably later this week yeah yeah and that's the that's the, do we accept the overt neo-Nazi or not?

Yes. Conflict. Which they are very divided on. Which is not a great sign. Gotta say, got to say. Don't love that. But in another just incredible, like, I'm not mad thing, Sernovich, like, Shurvich post that.

And then quote tweets his own tweet and says, if you didn't know anything about politics, you would say, this is the sign I want to be on. Conservative Inc. is joyless. It's the House of scolding nags. it offers young men nothing beyond moralizing and hypocritical lecture.

This is probably also following the fallout of the Fuentes Tucker interview and the sectarian right. Yep, yep, yep. It's not really infighting necessarily, but like these debates on

Fuentes' place within the conservative party and this argument against what I guess like right wing cancel culture that you have people like Vans and like Matt Walsh talk about how like we should not be, you know, canceling people like Tucker or, you know, these young GOP staffers here are white supremacists for saying things that are offensive because we need to have a united front against the left versus this whole other reaction from like Shapiro

and you have heritage just caught in the middle of this. And there's like senators and Mike Johnson who are trying to like keep this like legitimate like anti-Semitic but like also like anti-Israel, but through anti-Semitism. Like this anti-Semitic is section of the right. led by Fuentes, like keep it quarantined, which is increasingly breaking quarantine. So they're looking at how the right has devolved into this fighting and then seeing the election of Zoron and being like, oh, the grass is greener on that side, I guess, which is really odd. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's so funny because it's just like literally just all of the shit they've been saying about

the left forever, they're just suddenly like, oh my God, they will, some part of the right is like maybe, maybe not literally the neo-Nazi. And now they're like, oh, it's actually, it's actually the right that is, uh, the house of scolding nags who offer young men nothing beyond moralizing and hypocritical lecture, which is, it's just amazing. It's, I don't know. It's so funny. They're, they're just, they're just losing it.

Insofar as there is a kind of important thing here, it's that like, in a moment where, you know, the sort of ruling party is becoming increasingly unpopular. They're also fracturing from the inside to the extent where, like, their, like, worst nightmare just got elected as the mayor of New York. And instead of, like, rallying, they're doing this shit. Very funny. There's been a few governor reactions. I'm going to pull from the Guardian here.

Greg Abbott tweeted, join me in a moment of silence for New York City, thoughts and prayers. Abbott's been losing it over this election. It's so funny. it's very good. Rick Scott is the center of Florida. Florida has welcomed those fleeing communist and socialist regimes for decades, wrote Senator Rick Scott of Florida. Tonight is no different.

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in exposing our dear listeners to having to listen to Elon Musk try to talk because... Is this the Joe Rogan clip? Yeah, yeah, there's go of him on Joe Rogan where Joe Rogan's like, okay, why did you call Mom Donnie a swindler? And it's just a minute straight

of Elon Musk going, um, uh, he has nothing. He can't even complete a full sentence. Um, he had at one point says that, you know, swindlers will always say what the audience wants to hear and that's the only thing he's

he, that's the only complete thought that he gives the rest of his sentence or attempts in making a sentence is just saying the word um like five times and then saying that well you know Zoron is actually quite charismatic his brain is so cooked it's so good

and I say this is someone who stammers a significant amount this is this is just there's nothing going on in his brain this is closer to head empty no thoughts yeah head empty no thoughts derogatory which

derogatory comma bad always always always derogatory oh god so there's then this sort of mix of like the world is falling with this also kind of oh my god he won and also

this is a very attractive charismatic dude it is kind of breaking these people's brains that there's just like a hot guy who beat the shit out of them there's like definitely sort of like psychosexual politics going on here you can see it in a bunch of weird shit

you see people are posting no absolutely Freud would have a heyday Adorno would have a heyday writing about the psychosexual aspect of the anti-Zoron and obviously some of the pro-Zoron people as well oh yeah absolutely yeah this is a great things are happening in politics even Trump has had to

defend his looks this being better than Mr. Mamdani. Which, objectively not true. Very funny. Saying it's quote-unquote much better looking. It's so funny. But they'll also

this weird thing that some people on the left are doing. This is largely a Twitter thing, but this does keep out into real-world conversations, which I've heard, is thirsting after Zoron's wife. Oh, yeah. I see like you doing this a lot.

And comparing Zoron's wife to, like, like Melania or something and like in a whole bunch of really weird ways. Jesus Christ that's really weird oh don't do that. Look how like beautiful and aristocratic Zoron's wife is versus

former porn star Melania Trump and you're like come on what the fuck are you doing guys? What are you doing guys? Is this the doing misogyny? You're doing misogyny. It's bad. Simply don't do that. But we do love the 27 year old Zoomer New York First Lady.

Yeah, she fucking rocks. Good, good for her, good for her. Check out her art. I want to turn a little bit to Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson. He said, the Democrats in New York have chosen a true extremist and Marxist. The consequences will be felt across our entire nation.

He also said that Badami's policies are defunding the police seizing private property and massive tax increases, which I fucking wish. I mean, that does all sound kind of cool. But that is absolutely not what Zoron's current stated politics are.

Yeah. And it's also funny because this is the same reaction they've had to every single Democrat who's been elected in the past 20 years. Totally. The right has so much just sort of weird projection shit. And I feel like they've been doing this whole like, oh my God, you all called us fascist. And now we're all fascists. And it's like, no, you called Barack Obama, who was like the most neoliberal Democrat

they've ever put in office maybe second only to Bill Clinton maybe like you called him a communist and now it's like okay this guy's a democratic socialist and you're just saying like oh this time now this time it's communism this is like okay really no the boy who cried will think that the right does all the time it depowers their own rhetorical tactics yep yep yep and you see this in in a few ways i think you've seen this in part with like the transmas shooter thing and and certainly they've been doing this thing around communism or socialism for a while to the point where you can have

the mayor of New York proudly call himself a socialist a democratic socialist and gets elected with record numbers. Yep. So one of the things that he's going to be dealing with

obviously is the financial clash. We're going to get to some more weird reactions. But there's a very funny NPR quote that I'm going to read. I'm always going to read this quote. I think it's the stages of grief said Karen Wilde, runs the partnership for New York City,

an influential business group that represents more than 300 large employers. Which is very funny. They're fully in their like acceptance negotiation phase of this. Yeah. I mean, I think they might not be letting on the degree to which they have been in this process for a while.

There was like a final push among like Bloomberg who privately met with Mamdani like months ago. And they like developed like a kind of like truce at which Bloomberg broke in the week. week before the election when he suddenly funneled millions of dollars into Islamophobic ads, like 9-11 ads. But there was a lot of meetings happening between Mamdani and people who would make up his future administration and the business class, which have happened since he won the primary in June.

And this sort of negotiating and bargaining has been going on for quite a while. And I think the acceptance now is really the final, I mean, these steps aren't necessarily always, always like sequential. But I think we were rapidly approaching the acceptance phase across the city. And people are actually looking at like realistically and what, what the, with the negotiating side of enacting these things is going to look like, including the financial people. Yeah, that said, Ken Griffin not happy at all. No, they're not happy. No, yeah. Obviously. This is a business insider. For the people of New York, I pray that the policies Mondami uses to govern and lead New York are different than the talking points

he used to win the mayor race. People in New York deserve better. I do want to, I did cut out the part in the middle of there the business insider where he said this Wednesday at the American Business Forum in Miami. Some of a fucking in New York like, for this to say this, very funny. Hell yeah.

Very funny. In this sort of like crash out spectrum, there's a little people who are like having the absolute worst time are a bunch of Israeli politicians who are very mad about this. Shocking. Yeah, I'm just going to quote for the Washington Post here. Israel's far-right minister of security,

Bangavir said Wednesday that Mamdami's win would be, quote, remembered eternally as the moment when anti-Semitism overcame common sense. Diaspora affairs minister Amichai cheekly in an excoriating statement accused New York City of, quote, handing its keys over to a Hamas supporter. And this is also a giant loss for one Benjamin Netanyahu who Mamdami has said he will arrest. If he sets foot in New York, which rocks. Very funny.

Will this actually happen? I don't know. Hilarious. Yeah, I mean, these things just don't work anymore. Like, they, they, yeah. Like, I watched an interview with Jonathan Greenblatt, the head of the ADL, like, Good Morning America, like, talking about this and how they're establishing an anti-Semitism monitor to track the Zoron administration. And even, like, the hosts of Good Morning America were like, come on, man. like that's not he's not he's not what are we doing he's not he's not an anti-semi like he's he's against

he's against the genocide in gaza like he's he's not he's not like a jew hating anti-semit yeah and like they were even getting tired of greenblatt's little like schick and how he was he was constantly like performing to the camera to try to get people to like i don't report incidents that then they'll add into this into this monitor program so they'll try to blame the momdani administration for not protecting Jews or whatever. Yeah. This was on Morning Joe on MSNBC, not Good Morning America. My apologies. This is also, you know, if you want to talk about another sort of category of losers, it's like all of the unhinged Islamophobia. Oh, yeah. Like all of the people

spreading that got annihilated. Yeah. Just absolutely smashed. And like, and yeah, you know, it is worth saying. Like, yeah, like, this was one of the most racist campaigns I have ever seen. that Andrew Cuomo sort of waged, it was just hideous. More racist than Trump v. Kamala, by far. Yeah. Like, exceptionally so. And done by Democrat establishment figures, largely. Yep.

Man, it's just rancid. And they got their ass handed to them. And I think that's good. There's a very, very public level of exceptions for Islamophobia. You can just say the most Islamophobic shit anyone's ever heard on TV and it's fine and no one does anything but also like people don't fucking like that shit it sucks it's awful and fuck these people and you know i think this is sort of the tide turning oh and speaking of the tide turning uh bill acman as as we've talked about on on ed bending the knee saying congratseron wadami

congrats on the wind now you have a big responsibility if i can help new york city just let me know what i can do very good to sort of close out this like the losers section um i I want to turn, there's a great piece in defector about the people who, who threatened to leave New York City if Mamdani won, and unfortunately, reached out for comment. None of them were actually leaving. It's really sad. No, because people don't want to leave the city. It's a good city, which is the whole point of Zoron's campaign was about how much the city is cool and rocks. And Cuomo's campaign was about how much it's bad and scary.

Yeah. And unfortunately, tragically, this does mean that you are going to have to have Dave Portney and this whole. this whole crew of barstool dipshits still in the city so good luck I hope you expropriate them I hope they have a bad time in the heat of battle

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It's a very silly quote. I, the odds that Obama personally had at least one person on that campaign staff beat and Dren Occupy are very, high. Like, it's it's really truly this moment of like, brother, you spent so much time trying to make sure this wouldn't happen and you have failed and now you're in the like,

I'm going to do the Obama thing. We're like, I'm the friend of all the young leaders and I'm going to give them the worst advice you've ever heard in your entire life. I don't know. Still, still have never gone over Obama personally intervening to make sure the NBA players didn't go on strike during the uprising. Oh, God. What of the, what are the worst like post-presidential moments I've ever seen.

I want to close on Jamie Diamond, the CEO of J.P. Morgan Chase, who when asked about Mondami said, quote, he's a young man. Will he get good at it? What I haven't said about Mondami making and implementing good policies. I see a lot of people in big jobs, including big political jobs. They grow into it. I've seen a lot of people. They kind of swell into the job. They get worse.

They, you know, all of it becomes about them. I'm hoping he's the good one. And that will be important for the future in New York, he said. True, true and real. No, I mean, like, there's a lot of this slow capitulation, which we're even seeing with private comments from Trump that are being leaked into reporting through the New York Times, where in private, Trump has called Mr. Mamdani a slick and good talker

and a talented politician. And last Wednesday said that he might, quote, help him a little bit maybe unquote and that he wants in New York to succeed which is contrary to like previous threats of like pulling back all funding if Mamdani gets elected and I think part of part of this reaction is both like how strong

Zoran's victory is we all like know that Trump likes winners but also the fact that Zoran has like very quickly tried to establish dominance over the president in some ways but in a way that like someone like Trump like kind of respects with Mamdani positioning himself as like a legitimate like adversarial figure to Trump. Yeah. Like right off the bat.

And there's a little bit of the Trumpian mind that actually kind of appreciates that and thinks it's like cool and impressive. For the first Trump administration, there was a whole running theory that if you could get Trump in a room with Hugo Chavez, you could make him a socialist in like an hour. Because he really does just repeat the last thing anyone in a room said to him. So we're like we're finally going to test. the theory of, can we get a charismatic person in the room with him and make him do stuff he wouldn't normally do? And probably not, but, you know. I mean, and, like, the biggest thing right now is, like, the difference in immigration policy. But, like, Trump's from New York. Trump knows how much New York is a city built by and run by immigrants. Like, he knows that.

When Stephen Miller is, like, orchestrating all of his messaging, it's, like, the worst of the worst of the anti-immigrant stuff. But I think in terms of Zoron's opposition to Trump, primarily being with immigration, I think Trump understand. how immigration like rests very importantly into the identity of New York and in which with that's like the main like oppositional force. I think Trump similarly will is it's going to understand where Mamdani is coming from in a way. Yeah. And I think I think we are going to see like a particularly like Stephen Miller. Oh yeah. Conflict as as this goes on. Absolutely. Because this is this is the perfect example of stuff that Miller and people like Matt Walsh and like the great replacement people have been

talking about and the other huge batch of reactions that you're seeing from people like Walsh is that this election only went this way because of how many foreigners were allowed to vote in New York. Yeah, yeah. If this election was done by true New Yorkers, quote unquote, then Cuomo would have won. And looking at the results of this election, looking at how many immigrants voted, people who have moved to New York in the past 10 years, past five years, Maldani did very well with those groups. You have a lot of these like far right anti-immigration people pointing towards that as being like, this is what we're trying to defend the country. against, or else all of our elections are going to go like this, unless we make sure that only

white Americans can vote. Yeah, and then, so there's that reaction. What does I'm the other, the other reaction from roughly that crowd is women cannot be allowed to vote? Yes, which they also believe that. Yeah, yeah. This analysis obviously has faults, but it's even falling apart in terms of, like, the young male vote.

Yeah, yeah, they got hammered. Which the Republicans have, you know, have been very, very excited about how much, you know, young men are voting for the Republican party, right? Young men are all Republican, even if young women are all the Democrats. And you see in specifically this election where Mabdani is up 40% with young men. And the divide among men is mostly through age, with older men going for Cuomo. And millennials and Gen Z men swinging very strongly towards Mabdani. You have all these like Democrat think tanks trying to figure out how do we attract the young

male vote. How do we do this? And you have a guy show you what kind of policies, what kind of messaging works exceedingly well. Yeah. Which is how much people tried so hard to kill that strategy. And it was proven twice in a row, first with the primary and even more so with the general. And yeah, that will frighten the GOP.

It'll frighten them seeing that young men will vote for a democratic socialist. if they actually have these policies and you have this type of like solid messaging, they're not condescending and the candidate embodies like a new generation of change. It's very, it's very threatening to the GOP. And to establishment Democrats.

Yeah, like I've seen Steve Bannon's out here being like if he lose in the midterms and lose in 2028, I'm going to prison which I... From your mouth to God fear. So, like... No, the biggest mistake that Democrats made last time. Well, there's a many

many big mistakes, right? Palestine being a huge one. But I think a huge mistake they made is not completely destroying Trump and his whole, like, had its ability to, like, exist in public life. Like, Trump should have been immediately in prison for trying to overthrow the government and basically sent into a hole. And after that Supreme Court ruling on presidential immunity, it should have, like, been taken out as, like, a national security threat. Like, Democrats cannot, cannot play this, like, they go low, we go high game anymore. if we're going to get out of this and it's probably not going to be

the Democrats should do this but like our Nuremberg is going to have to make the original Nuremberg look like paperclip like well that's what the original Nuremberg was the original Nuremberg also sucked You see this is that we are Nuremberg two Nuremberg harder

I see yeah I actually doing it Yeah I I really like Jacob Geller's video on Nuremberg And it is it is a nice emotional play stuff all back on in times of torment. But I don't think we're going to Nuremberg ourselves

out of this one. And unfortunately, I don't have a very strong, solid alternative at the moment. But at the very least, Trump should have been treated much, much harsher after January 6th. Yeah. We can leave it as, for now, Nuremberg.

Towards an ascendant, Nuremberg. Well, this has been a good happen here. a rare, a rare upbeat episode where all of our enemies are having a very bad time. Yeah, they're also mad about Lena Kahn on the transition team. Oh yeah, very funny. They're so mad. Very mad. Go to Transition 2025 to learn more about Sauron's Smirald transition team.

A fantastic URL. Really, really going for it with Transition 2025. Stealing trash, Valor. True, real. You go, girl. I give Zoron the pass. He can say it. Zor and Bob Dobby, estrogen.

No, no, no. He's fine as he is. We're transing the governor. He's actually a good-looking man. He doesn't need it. He's actually figured it out, I think. Anyway. We're a war ended here.

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