It Could Happen Here - Predictive Programming, Part 1
Episode Date: March 11, 2024From The Simpsons to The Hunger Games, is the deep state putting planned events into films and tv? Gare, Mia, and Robert discuss the origin of the conspiracy theory.See omnystudio.com/listener for pri...vacy information.
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Welcome to It Could Happen Here, the podcast that tells you what's going to happen before Call zone media. of doing, specifically Robert, but we're not going to talk about us too much. Instead,
we're going to talk about the origin of this conspiracy theory and some famous use cases
throughout history of how you might have been affected by predictive programming, the listener.
So let's start by defining our terms here. Predictive programming is a conspiracy theory
that future events are seeded within fictional
media like film, TV, video games, and books to subliminally influence the public perception
of real world events.
But this isn't simply about movies like just predicting the future.
It's an intentional method of large scale social conditioning used by a conspiracy of
deep state government agents and the entertainment
industry this term was coined by a conspiracy theorist named alan watt different from the uh
like pop zen writer alan watts different guy there's a one letter difference i'm sure i'm
sure they share some amount of audience crossover but they are different people he kind of coined
this concept around the early 2000s from what i can tell he's a scottish canadian conspiracy
theorist oddly enough he's kind of one of the least problematic conspiracy theorists that i've
run into like he's he's openly pushed back on on like uh anti-semitism David Icke and Alex Jones. Like he just seems to kind of be a silly guy.
He died a few years ago.
From what I can tell, at least on like a cursory search,
he's like not the most problematic.
I mean, obviously still a conspiracy theorist,
but like kind of like the token good conspiracy theorist.
I don't know.
But he defined predictive programming
as the power of suggestion using the
media of fiction to create a desired outcome. A more expansive definition that he gave is,
quote, predictive programming is a subtle form of psychological conditioning provided by the media
to acquaint the public with planned societal changes to be implemented by the elites. If and
when these changes are put through, the public
will already be familiarized with them and will accept them as natural progressions, thus lessening
any possible public resistance and commotion. Predictive programming, therefore, may be
considered a veiled form of preemptive mass manipulation or mind control, courtesy of our
puppet masters. So that's Alan Watt. that is his definition like i said he kind of
came up with this idea in the early 2000s and it spread like wildfire throughout his competitors
and his contemporaries in the conspiratorial milieu yeah it's really recent i thought i
thought it was older than that yeah no it is this is a new one it is it is a relatively new
conspiracy theory like it doesn't it doesn't go all the way back to like, well, some of the
rough ideas were kind of used
by stuff going all the way back to the John
Birch Society, but the actual
term predictive programming
and the modern understanding of that term
are much more recent. An
Ohio State University article on the topic
said, quote, predictive programming
at its core is a tactic to reduce resistance
by introducing concepts that seem far-fetched and continuously reintroducing them to make these concepts appear
more likely or at the very least acceptable. So that's more of like a outside-in definition
from researchers. So let's go back to Alan Watt a little bit, because he's kind of been largely
forgotten in the conspiratorial milieu,
replaced by a whole bunch of more bombastic
and troubling figures like Jones and Ike
and many, many smaller conspiracy theorists.
But I listened to what I believe to be
the first kind of broadcast where he coined this idea,
as opposed to Alex Jones jones alan watt is like
a very like calm speaker like he's he's he's actually kind of just like pleasant to listen
to because he's just so like like calm methodical he's not like bombastic uh he just sounds like a
regular like chill guy his his website is amazing it looks like a 1995 website that has never been updated
it it is it is fantastic i love that the website has stayed up after his death because it is
just a joy to look at but alan watt describes predictive programming as a quote-unquote
ancient science he thought that quote families of actors go back thousands of years they're a specialized section
of society that intermarries within their own ranks unquote it's like he thinks all actors
come from like this one large like intergenerational family that have been that have been like in like
the profession of acting which like is kind of true for like the copulas but like you know it's like yes there's a massive like
nepotism problem but like no yeah actors aren't like a single family that goes back like millennia
um but that is that that is one of his beliefs he calls he calls producers magicians quote they
know what messages must be imprinted into the minds of the audience. They know the techniques, a perfect science, unquote.
He also talks about how Shakespeare was involved in predictive programming.
Quote, Shakespeare was the magician that brought the English language into being, unquote.
So he means that like Shakespeare is like the person who developed like the who developed the modern English language.
Obviously, English predates Shakespeare, but he thinks that through Shakespeare's writing,
he was able to popularize the modern form of English, which just isn't true.
But it's a funny thing to believe.
And he thinks all these people are literal magicians, like wizards, like wands, pointy hats.
They're all like
doing actual like magic this seems like such a roundabout way of doing this like you can just
absolutely magic so so true so true mia so alan watt talks about that in the late 60s there was
a big weeks-long international meeting to decide that Hollywood would be the place to create the culture of the future.
He then discusses how Hollywood controls people through war movies and how the DOD helps Hollywood with equipment for war movies, but they have to approve all the messaging.
That has a little grain of truth in there.
Yes, to use military
equipment you do need to get like approval from people in the government and yeah there is a form
of hollywood that is like just war propaganda like that is there is there's there's a kernel
of truth here but not exactly in the way alan watt talks about it do you know what else has a kernel
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Okay, we are back to talk about Alan Watt and his predictive programming idea,
which has spread through the conspiratorial milieu like wildfire.
So probably the funniest thing he gets to on this whole Hollywood as magicians rant is, quote, if you look at the word hollywood it means holy wood which of course
is the staff of the magi the grand magus of the occult he waves a wand and everything is changed
he casts a spell so incredible so he thinks that hollywood literally refers to like a magic wand like a holy a holy
wood um he then he then also talks about hollywood as like as like a grove like like hollywood like
the place is is is a grove quote similar to jewish holy groves in folklore moses's staff was placed
in a grove and that was a special place for higher magi to meet
unquote and i don't think he means this anti-semitically it just kind of sounds anti-semitic
but he talks about yeah anyway i can't even blame the u.s on this one this guy's canadian
uh scottish canadian yeah yeah literally literally me literally me i i'll
read one more alan quote here which is just just a banger hollywood is the magician's wand
holy holly which has been used to cast a spell on the unsuspecting public things or ideas that
would otherwise be seen as bizarre vul vulgar, undesirable, or impossible
are inserted into films in the realm of fantasy. When the viewer watches these films, his or her
mind is left open to suggestion, and the conditioning process begins. These same movies,
which are designed to program the average person, can give the discerning viewer a better understanding
of the workings and the plan of the world agenda, unquote. So unlike a lot of modern conspiracy theorists who refuse to watch movies because of predictive programming,
Alan Watt thinks it's actually useful to watch movies because you can get a future glimpse at what is going to happen in the world,
which is like a neat little difference compared to some of his modern contemporaries.
Yeah, you can watch Batman and realize that Occupy Wall Street's happening.
Yes, one year ago. Yeah, totally.
Predictive programming in the past.
In the past. Yeah, yeah. Preemptive. So let's talk about some examples of predictive programming.
Now, one thing that people often point to when discussing this is
the television show The Simpsons. Now, a writer and producer of The Simpsons from back in the 90s,
Bill Oakley, gave a statement to Reuters a few years ago about the concept of The Simpsons
being able to predict real world events. Quote, I would say in general, when people say The
Simpsons has predicted something, it's that we were really just satirizing real life events from years before. And because history keeps repeating itself,
it just seems like we're predicting things, unquote. Which I think is actually a really
great observation. The show actually hasn't made very many predictions. It is often just
satirizing actual events from around the time of the show's production. And lots of those events
we've just now forgotten in the present. And similar events keep happening in the present, like viruses or Donald Trump running for
president, just like he did in the 2000s. So it's easy to kind of see these things as predictions
when in fact, we've just forgotten the events that they were originally satirizing. Now, many of the
kind of viral quote unquote predictions you see online associated with The Simpsons actually just have a vastly different context within the show, and in many cases are actually
just altered images, fan art, photoshops, or memes with mislabeled timestamps, or genuine
images satirizing current events, making it appear as if The Simpsons version happened
beforehand when really it was like something satirizing an event a month ago,
made to look like it was actually produced in like 2007 or something, right?
So it's just a whole bunch of manipulated media.
One instance of something that like appears to be an impressive prediction,
but is actually just showing how the creators of the show pay attention to politics,
is the purple suit that President Lisa wears,
bearing similarity to Kamala Harris's
getup on Inauguration Day. But purple was also worn by Michelle Obama and Hillary Clinton during
previous Inauguration Days. It's the color of the suffragette movement, and it tends to symbolize
unity between red and blue states. It's just, it's a very common thing that women wear at Inauguration
Day. So like, it's just a good guess. So there's a lot of stuff like that.
Now, probably the most famous example of the Simpsons' predictive power
is probably the 9-11 poster from the New York episode.
Now, there is a wealth of eerie 9-11 imagery from years before the attack,
either associated with the date itself,
destruction of the Twin Towers, or in the case of the Simpsons, both.
Now, as for the others, 9-1- 911 is just a common number in the US, so you see it pop up in
a lot of stuff.
And the Twin Towers, as well as the Statue of Liberty, the Empire State, and the Chrysler
Building, are all often used in post-apocalyptic or societal collapse destructive artwork.
Of course, there was the bombing at the World Trade Center like a decade prior. And it's really easy now just to focus on instances of art depicting the
Twin Towers, right? We have Michael Keaton's The Squeeze from 1987, Cookie Monster eating the Twin
Towers in 1976, The Towers disintegrating in the 1993 Mario movie, the infamous Illuminati card
game, the Coos party music album cover, and my personal favorite instance, the infamous Illuminati card game, the Coup's party music album cover,
and my personal favorite instance, the pilot episode of the X-Files spinoff show The Lone
Gunman, in which members of the US government deep state remotely hijack a commercial airliner
to crash it into the World Trade Center to blame it on terrorists and start a new war in the middle east this episode aired six months
before 9-11 it is the funniest thing it's wild it's like specifically being like an x-files
spinoff it's just it's just gold hilarious stuff and obviously for another predictive programming
type thing in the wake of covid19 many have pointed out that movies like Contagion or even Zombie Media
are instances of predictive programming
to get the public to accept a massive global pandemic
when in most cases it's actually just
like scientists being like,
hey, a pandemic could probably be a big problem.
And then screenwriters being like,
oh, let's write a movie about a pandemic, right?
Very, very easy.
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All right, we are back and we are joined by Robert Evans to give his thoughts on the predictive power of The Simpsons. Hello, Robert. Hey, you know, Garrison, once upon a time,
I watched a Simpsons episode where Homer decides not to go to church and instead to stay asleep
on Sunday all day. And that really kind of predicted me sleeping in this morning
after getting in on a late night flight last night and missing the kind of predicted me sleeping in this morning after getting in on a
late night flight last night and missing the start of this recording so the power of predictive
programming simply cannot be denied uh because there's a scene in that where homer like closes
his eyes and curls his toes and pulls his his covers up over himself when he's avoiding church
that really predicted me at about 11 a.m. this morning.
Well, that's great.
Do you know who else is good
at predictive programming?
Batman.
Okay, so we've already talked a little bit
about some of the predictive programming conspiracies
based on the Dark Knight Rises
in the first segment
of our Occupy Gotham City episode.
You know, how the Aurora Colorado shooter
was a modern MKUltra victim
programmed to distract from the software
leaks that'll expose the corrupt elites
because his father worked on predictive algorithms
for the financial sector, just like
the plot of The Dark Knight Rises.
Not the plot of The Dark Knight Rises.
Not at all.
But let's not forget that the movie also
conditioned us to accept a major attack
on a big sporting event something which has also not really happened so i'll actually be seeing
clyde lewis again next week so i will i will try to get his thoughts on uh on his dark knight rises
failed predictions we'll see we'll see how we'll see how that goes for me but those are not the
only conspiracy theories around this movie.
For the next one, we will turn to the king of the lizard people, David Icke.
Ah, there we go.
He claims that when the GCPD are trying to track down the location of Bane's nuclear reactor, there's a shot of a map on which there's a location marked as Sandy Hook.
And you'll never guess what happened five months after the Dark Knight Raxus came out.
Oh my god.
Yeah.
Yeah, man.
It's so bad.
Now, I've looked into this a decent bit,
because yes, there is a location on the map of Gotham City marked Sandy Hook.
Now, this is probably named after Sandy hook,
New Jersey.
Yeah.
Uh,
just South of New York city as on the Batman map.
It is,
uh,
it is an Island that is just South of Gotham city in,
in the comics.
Uh,
it's called tri corner Island for like this,
the specific map of Gotham they use is from like the 1990s and it's called
tri corner Island.
I think they renamed it to Sandy Hook
in the Dark Knight Rises.
So a similar map
in the movie was used for marketing materials
that labeled Sandy Hook as a neighborhood
in Gotham. And this map also
contained a neighborhood called the
Narrows, a common Gotham borough
in Batman lore.
In the wake of the Sandy Hook shooting, this led
schools in Narrows, Virginia
to delay the return of students
for winter break to install
additional security precautions.
And this was all based on a conspiracy
article titled, Is Narrows
the site of the next school massacre?
Which of course it wasn't.
Clear folks,
there are Sandy Hooks towns
named Sandy Hooks in Connecticut, Indiana, Kentucky, Maryland, Mississippi, Missouri.
Yes. Virginia, Wisconsin.
Like it's it's there's a lot of them.
We've made a lot of them.
There's a lot of places that are sandy and look like a hook.
And the secondary problem with this is that we have school shootings in so many places that if you just have a map in any movie, there's like a one in 12 chance that there's going to be a shooting there now so great great society we've built i do kind of wonder is this something
that we've like inoculated ourselves against by having so many school shootings like because you
could never sandy hook got so much attention because like we didn't have as many shootings
back then and it was so terrible and like maybe now we move on to because it like what you're talking
about elements of this but like people obsess are still obsessed over the sandy hook shooting today
in a way that like i don't think most mass shooting victims have to deal with like it
becoming the center of this national mania campaign yeah and like many pointed out that this this batman conspiracy theory is kind of
incongruent with other sandy hook conspiracy theories uh being like it's supposed to be a
big shocking incident to get people to start to start like wanting gun control versus what why
would they try to warn us about it's about it happening if it was if the point of it is to be
shocking like it doesn't quite make sense as most conspiracy theories do.
But David Icke said,
quote,
the dark night rises is classic Saturn symbolism and Satanists worship
Saturn.
So there you go.
Now,
curiously,
do you know who else lives in Sandy Hook?
Suzanne Collins,
the author of the hunger games, which leads us to our next
topic, The Hunger Games. I found this amazing blog called Through Ancient Eyes by this British guy
named Neil, who's obsessed with the occult and is like a David Icke fanboy. This blog is glorious.
This blog is glorious.
So I will, I'll start by reading the opening paragraph from this blog.
Quote, don't think for a minute that the script for the Hunger Games books is purely fiction.
Here we have predictive programming at its finest. What I saw was the second part of a three-part narrative that clearly plants ideas of acceptance,
sacrifice, and revolution in the minds of youth. The books are awash with symbols and archetypes
that seem to be classic programming devices. And more alarmingly, the books seem to project
a very viable future for not only America, but for the world. Unquipped.
I mean, look, he's not entirely wrong because of all of the pieces of revolutionary literature and nonfiction of that have come out during our lifetimes.
The Hunger Games has inspired a lot more revolutions.
Absolutely.
That's why this one is so fun is because no, like 2020 was like a not insignificant part of 2020 was due to a whole bunch of kids growing up with
the hunger games no no i i know people who are still fighting in the jungle so in part because
of that book yes exactly so we we will we will get into that in a bit um now neil neil believes
that the country of panam is quote clearly a reference to both arcadia and the greek god pan unquote so it's an
author who was up late at night looking for country names and remembered an old airline
like that's that's what was going on the region of arcadia was home to pan and characterized by
a vast wilderness with its lavish parties for the god of the wild and his nymphs quote the hunger
games capital is an urban forest of the gods in its classic symbolic reversal of
the true meaning.
It becomes a city dedicated to all that would be the opposite of true
freedom.
Unquote.
Now,
Neil loves symbolic reversal,
how you will see something depicted that is like,
you know,
like being against totalitarian governments.
This is actually symbolic reversal, where it's actually
pro-authoritarian governments. This is how he talks about
the entirety of the movie, and how it's actually
trying to cede acceptance for a one-world-order
military police state. Similar to David Icke, Neill also notes
the Saturnian symbolism
with the goat imagery of the astral sign Capricorn linking to Pan, as well as the composite
representation of the devil image Baphomet. Now, I am not a planetary magic guy in general,
but Saturn is often linked to the harvest, to destruction, chaos. It's a whole thing.
But Neil says,
quote, both Capricorn and Aquarius
are ruled by Saturn and its hidden
vibrationality effect on
the powers that be, banking, law,
education. Therefore,
Pan Am is the ultimate Saturn city
of the future. Pan Am is very
much the typical totalitarian future
Nazi-like city. It is also where that links to pandemonium in the form of a pandemic is the hunger games preparing
the youth of today for some kind of tyrannical future born out of the events of the next decade
that will lead to global pandemonium which is unfortunately a pretty good prediction coming from like coming from like the early 2010s
yeah they kind of were talking about a pandemic that leads to global unrest rebelling against a
tyrannical future so pretty pretty good analysis by neil there now neil also notes you know curious
linkages between the segregated 12 districts of pan Am, just as our perception of time is governed by 12 hours and months.
Oh my god.
He breaks down Pan Am even further,
claiming that the letter E and the letter M are like numerology references.
The E linking to the Intel and Saturn-like Explorer logos.
And Neil says, quote, according to some researchers which is a
great way to start a sentence according to some researchers the letter e is a very important
letter number because it represents the fifth essence or element the power of transcendence
no we as the germatria started oh yeah absolutely absolutely he he goes all out on the letter m the letter m
is a very important letter in the mystery schools of antiquity uh-huh being the numerology equivalent
of 13 this of course relates to the 13 original districts or the 12 sectors around the one
capital oh yeah sure there are of course 12 jurors and one judge. The M, or the 13th letter, is the master with 12 disciples.
And esoterically speaking, 13 is the experiencer of the 12 signs of the zodiac.
There are 12 months in the Gregorian sun calendar and 13 months in the lunar calendar.
There were 13 districts, but now only 12 remain.
There were 13 colonies.
The US is Satanismism so true so true
mia there's a lot of talk about how like kids can't read anymore because how we fucked up like
reading education you know around like the early aughts and shit and like some the damage that
that's done but this is showing that like you've got a bunch of boomers who are going through these
books who are reading them very carefully who are googling every word in them to see if there's different things.
Yeah.
And they catch all of this, like, put all this weird maniac shit together, but they don't just get that, like, yeah, if you tell kids a simple story about another young person overthrowing a tyrannical government, maybe they'll burn down their Capitol building.
Absolutely.
It's happened before and it'll happen again.
capital building absolutely it's happened before and it'll happen again neil gets obsessed with all these little tiny tiny rabbit holes that are ultimately meaningless and like misses the very
glaring obvious thing right before his eyes he says numbers and letters are vibrational codes
that affect the subconscious the more i look at saturn symbolism the more i see a thought form
waveform or a vibrational
pattern that permeates the collective thinking of humanity no you miss the obvious and more like
there's always obsession with like numerology and it's like well no a big part of why the hunger
games caught on to people and was like so easy to like meme and spread as part of these revolutionary
actions is they have like a thing a hand thing that you did they had a little salute and like kids could do
it to each other it's the same shit neil is not a fan of the salute by the way well that's good
i'm sure he's got some fascinating opinions on that shit oh he sure does and we will hear his
extremely fascinating opinions on the three finger Salute, as well as other Hunger Games conspiracies, and new upcoming predictive programming conspiracies based around the Civil War movie in the next episode.
So stay tuned tomorrow for even more exciting news on how you can predict the future by watching movies.
See you tomorrow.
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