It Could Happen Here - Predictive Programming, Part 2

Episode Date: March 12, 2024

Gare, Robert, and Mia discuss the conspiracy theory that the government is preparing the public for revolution, collapse, and civil war.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information....

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Starting point is 00:01:53 So last episode we talked about the origin of this conspiracy theory, how this Canadian-Scottish conspiracy theorist named Alan Watt came up with this idea that through Hollywood, movies, TV, books, video games, the secret cabal of shadowy governments is trying to subliminally prepare us to accept planned events as they take place in the future by putting little hints, shadows, and seeds into our everyday entertainment diet. One of the oldest examples that conspiracy theorists will point to as an example of predictive programming is this book from the late 1800s called Futility that talks about a fictional ship called the Titan,
Starting point is 00:02:36 which was thought to be completely unsinkable, which eventually crashed on an iceberg and sank. This obviously mirrors what happened to the Titanic in the decades to follow. So yeah, we're going to be talking about this sort of stuff. Last episode ended in our discussion of the Hunger Games. I found this old conspiracy blog by this British guy named Neil, where he talks about all of his theories surrounding the Hunger Games books and movies. So we will return to hear Neil's thoughts on the predictive programming implanted into the Hunger Games. Neil also has fascinating opinions on trains. He really doesn't like that in the Hunger Games there is a big, like, train system, which he links to, like, the... which he links
Starting point is 00:03:26 to the European Union's future train plan as well as, like, high-speed rail plans for North America, which he is very against because, do you know who else used trains? Was it the Nazis, Garrison? The Nazis, yeah. Was it the Nazis? It's the Nazis. You know, you can tell
Starting point is 00:03:42 this is an older conspiracy because they're actually using the Nazis as the people who use trains and not like the Soviet Union. Yeah. I think Neil just really likes driving. And he thinks that driving is like the epitome of freedom. So he talks about how like trains are trying to control which areas of the country you can go to instead of the freedom of the open road. I got stuck behind a train in traffic on my way to the airport. Very frustrating.
Starting point is 00:04:06 Which helped make me late to this call. So I actually, I think he's right. I'm on board now. He also rants about this 1992 UN plan called Agenda 21, about like a big environmental management plan with highly condensed human settlement zones. This is something that both John Birch
Starting point is 00:04:24 and Glenn Beck were also really... Oh, Alex Jones is huge on... This was the entire conspiracy ecosystem for about 15 years. Couldn't shut the fuck up about Agenda 21. Some of them still go on about it. So, Neil's upset because that looks similar to the Pan Am
Starting point is 00:04:39 map of... Because Pan Am is in a post-climate collapse, we have these very condensed areas of settlement and a vast, unusable landmass in America. So he has his whole thing about that. He doesn't like that President Snow looks like the Saturnian figure of Kronos, the father of time who devours children.
Starting point is 00:05:00 Oh, kids love Kronos. Just like how President Snow sacrifices children to maintain like societal control of pan am in the hunger games you don't let him see my bed my bathroom that'll uh that'll really get us in the center of some i have a giant copy of the saturn eating his son painting that's like right next to my toilet it's great painting also not necessarily about that they just found a painting of a guy eating a guy. And we're like, it's probably Saturn that this guy was trying to paint.
Starting point is 00:05:30 That is the research quality that Neil also does. He's like, yeah, it's probably all these things. Seems like it's Saturn. Yeah. It seems like it's Saturn. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:39 Kind of uncomfortable to imagine it's anyone else. Neil also compares the Hunger Games to China's one-child policy and the population reduction conspiracy theories of Agenda 21. Just like in the Hunger Games, it's about having children kill each other. Just like the one-child policy. Yeah, that's how China does their one-child policy.
Starting point is 00:05:58 Other children are told to kill children if there's more than one in a family. Back on the revolutionary tract, quote, I can't confirm that Susan Collins used the archetype of Artemis for her character of Katniss,
Starting point is 00:06:11 but what can be observed is how this female role model is a symbol for revolution, a new order, and more importantly, a new world system. This is clearly the blueprint for a new America.
Starting point is 00:06:22 So part of this blueprint that he talks about is like implanted microchips and a brutal police state that arrests and kills protesters unlike our current police state which would never arrest or kill a protester yeah and everyone just carries microchips around yeah yeah uh now more more devious than the murder-happy police, Neil finds the bird symbolism to be. Including Katniss's dress, which transforms into the Mockingjay symbol, which, according to
Starting point is 00:06:52 Neil, looks, quote, remarkably like a Benu bird of Egypt. As well as a phoenix, especially when encircled in fire. Quote, the phoenix is a classic mystery school symbol that relates to the unseen forces that transforms the world.
Starting point is 00:07:07 Both Katniss and Peeta's costumes set afire as they enter the arena before the tournament. With Katniss becoming the bird on fire, she is the embodiment of the coming transformation, the beginning and the end.
Starting point is 00:07:17 Katniss and Peeta are symbols of Artemis and Apollo, the twins, and children of the New World Order of Gods. Smokeless fire is also a major symbol used by the Illuminati and is, and is their vehicle to communicate with the archons. He never goes into further detail about the archons.
Starting point is 00:07:36 Yes. Smokeless powder is what made war possible. So, you know, we, there's other things. It's not just the Illuminati. We use it for fireworks too.
Starting point is 00:07:45 Katniss is the woman clothed It's not just the Illuminati. We use it for fireworks too. Kat, Katniss is the woman clothed in fire sun in the book of revelation and the EU, the United nations and the security council replicate the symbolism, a Phoenix rising out of the tyranny and war. It's all reversed symbolism, of course, because these bodies are set to administer the world army police and the
Starting point is 00:08:03 future new world order unquote so he's he's there complaining about a united nations mural uh that was made after world war two about a phoenix of peace rising from the ashes of war and how this is actually reversed symbolism because they're actually going to be you know laying out this global one world government uh calling it peace you know he also talks more about the book of revelation and how 12 and 13 combined and the unification of the new world just like in the bible and then finally to get to that three that three finger salute it quote it's interesting when you dig a little deeper and find that katniss's salute is reminiscent of a certain Nazi youth salute found in Eastern
Starting point is 00:08:45 Europe in the late 1930s. And he's also quite concerned by the new adoption of the salute by the Girl Scouts, despite the three-finger salute being used in scout organizations for over a century. Yeah, yeah. The Boy Scouts are sinister, but not because of the salute.
Starting point is 00:09:01 No. The salute is the least of the problems with the scout agencies. That was a brief moment of reprieve for a lot of those boys getting to do a salute. And then he also says, quote, it's no surprise that the Mockingjay pin also looks similar to a Nazi gunner badge because as I've already shown, the bird is the symbol for the power of revolution,
Starting point is 00:09:21 a new order that goes all the way back to the Holy Roman Empire. And these are the guys that will be like, well, look at the Mockingjay symbol. It's similar to, then they'll see like a scout sniper flag that looks like the SS logo and go, well, there's clearly nothing related to that.
Starting point is 00:09:37 And then we will close this section by continuing on the revolutionary elements. Quote, what kind of revolution does Katniss symbolize? Are the youth of today being readied for another revolution followed by another dictatorship? How many more celebrities are we going to see being used as a mouthpiece for revolution? I am all for peaceful revolution
Starting point is 00:09:57 based on respect and love, but the movies never portray that kind of revolution. A peaceful revolution is one inspired by the inner world of imagination and not necessarily the outer world of the five senses. The type of revolution that the elite would want us to unfold here would be one born of pandemonium. The Illuminati and those in control of the current global empire in the making love to hide their agenda in plain sight within commercial,
Starting point is 00:10:21 so-called fictitious movies and in the media industry in general. The Hunger Games is the script for the totalitarian elite ruled brutal police state the agenda is repeatedly being laid out in front of our very eyes both in real everyday life and in things we choose to expose ourselves within the so-called entertainment industry this is one of these things where all of these conspiracy theories center around the fact that people for reasons that are incomprehensible to me, believe that the thing the U.S. government wants you to do is shoot guns at them.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Yes, right? No, they don't. I guarantee they don't want you to shoot machine guns at them. They would like you to spend money and go to work. That's the primary thing the U.S. government wants you to do. Pay your taxes without too much fuss. Do you know what else the U.S. government wants you to do. Pay your taxes without too much fuss. Do you know what else the U.S. government wants you to do, Robert?
Starting point is 00:11:07 I know a number of things the U.S. government wants me to do, Garrison, but I won't. I will not stop telling people to take colloidal silver for all of their healthcare problems. The only way to really carry out the revolution starts with putting silver in your body. Hi, I'm Ed Zitron, host of the Better Offline podcast, and we're kicking off our second season digging into how tech's elite has turned Silicon Valley into a playground for
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Starting point is 00:14:42 I feel like we can achieve this with body paint. I do find it very funny that they're so obsessed with the Hunger Games as this this is the elite showing you how they're going to crack down on all of us and then when it actually, when the Hunger Games inspires an actual revolution
Starting point is 00:14:57 it's like the one that gets no support from any like spook agency the only one, there's no CIA no FSB, fucking nothing like it's it's just a bunch of teenagers and their books and 3d printers i mean and like looking back at that hunger game section it's always interesting how people like this they're like in the real world very like pro police in a lot of cases but then also being like they're trying to install a police state right it's they get to they get to eat their cake and have it being like they're trying to instill a police state right it's like they get to
Starting point is 00:15:25 they get to eat their cake and have it too where they're they are both pro law enforcement but also anti this like imagined evil version of law enforcement that's always like right on the cusp of being introduced there's a through line there which is that they are anti whatever it seems like people are telling them is like obviously okay it's it's it's oppositional defiant it's the same reason why like you think that you're on you're living in a normal earth so it's got to be a hollow earth right yeah like it's this if something is popular if a movie's popular it can't just be a movie that people liked and if it's like you know i i saw a hunger game the the first Hunger Games movie, and I
Starting point is 00:16:06 tried to read the books and I was like, nah, I can't read these. You know, they're not, they were not written for me. Like, it's just, I was not interested in them. And that's all I really thought about it. But like certain people, if they see something popular and they don't immediately fall in love with it, they have to come up with some reason why it's sinister and it's the same thing that leads them to reject everything else right that like if other people like something and i don't get it or i feel weird or don't understand it then it has to be a fucking
Starting point is 00:16:37 conspiracy like that used to be one percent of this country and through social media it's become like half of us because it's a deeply addictive way to feel i think the most sinister thing about the new hunger games is that they did not put nearly enough hunter shaver in that movie um so let's know that is let's continue to the last that's got to be predictive hunter shaver so they're wanting okay so this is like very clearly well no oh no i could go into like i could go into like they're trying to make the kids trans right they want to like hunt down their parents oh my god shaver is literally trans shaved right and shaved you know literally
Starting point is 00:17:16 well i'm saying you could easily turn it into a conspiracy theory garrison you could make it work so lastly we're going to talk about the new hit movie leave the world behind garrison made me watch this i'm never gonna forgive them for it one of it is it is one of the most recent examples of a movie sparking predictive programming conspiracies uh it's by the creator of mr. Robot, which retroactively makes Mr. Robot much worse. Now there is a few reasons why this movie has caused so much uproar. Um, a major factor being that it's produced by the Obamas as in the presidents. Very irresponsible.
Starting point is 00:17:59 There is, there is, there's Havana syndrome references, discussion of an evil cabal that runs the world, plans to collapse the United States. And, uh, the two child leads wear t-shirts that read obey and nasa respectively which has been the cause of a lot of discourse on the far right how to obey nasa yeah yeah the left's long-term plan look several of the letters in nasa are also in stalin are you gonna tell me that's a coincidence yeah probably i will i will now i will now share this share this uh clip from steve bannon who had a dutch far-right e-girl on his show to discuss the movie he's doing good then so he's doing good that's good i was worried about steve okay so we see a movie here now that is co-produced by the Obamas about the potential cyber attack, which causes mayhem, obviously.
Starting point is 00:18:53 And I saw it, and it reminded me an awful lot of the narrative portrayed in a video published about two years ago by the World Economic Forum. And this was a video in which they supposedly warned us for a cyber pandemic. Interesting choice of words there. And they detail what could happen if we are under a cyber attack and that the only way that we could solve an attack like that would be to disconnect everything and everyone completely from the internet. So I figured this seems to me like a classic case of predictive programming, where not just the World Economic Forum, but now also through movies and fictional stories, they are trying to prepare the public to the idea of cyber attacks and the potential chaos that could come with that. So that is,
Starting point is 00:19:45 that is her, her big problems with the movie, which we'll see, we'll see echoed in a lot of the people we talk about here with the world economic forums warning about a big cyber attack. She then went on to rant about the movie's anti-white sentiments, probably from the Obama's involvement. Clearly.
Starting point is 00:20:03 Yeah. She has, she has almost a million followers on Twitter. It is wild. Also because she's Dutch. Her last name is. And I shit you not. Vlaardingerbroek.
Starting point is 00:20:15 So great great stuff happening. In the Dutch. Yeah what is that predicting? For a summary of the movie. I'll let this conspiracy theory TikTok. Explain basic themes that we'll be discussing here. Essentially, the movie is about the downfall of civilization and how it's done in three steps. First step being that the government is going to be toppled from within. Next one, that it's going to be littered with disinformation and misinformation to confuse the masses and to create chaos.
Starting point is 00:20:42 The third step, if the first and second step are done correctly, is going to cause basically a civil war, causing the paranoid and problematic to start turning on each other. The little girl is obsessed with the last episode of Friends called How It Ends, which is interesting because the star of the movie, Julia Roberts, also dated Matthew Perry way, way back. Matthew Perry, who also passed away earlier this year. The movie also references billionaires and their bunkers, and it references the cabal on way more than one occasion.
Starting point is 00:21:08 The heart of it is that the cabal has fallen, and so nobody is in charge, and this is what's leading to the fall of the United States of America, essentially. It has a very predictive programming feel to it. And I mean, with the Obamas and the constant references to water, planes crash in the water and a boat called the White Lion runs up on shore from the ocean. Everybody wants
Starting point is 00:21:30 water. They're constantly drinking water. Here's some water. You want some water? Didn't the Obama chef just drown? I can't watch anything anymore. I can't enjoy anything. To sum it up, the entire movie itself doesn't even have a plot. There's no real storyline to this movie and the ending is awful. If I were not paying attention like I am, I would think the movie would be terrible.
Starting point is 00:21:48 There's no resolution. There's no real start. It just seems like it's just here. Just here. It's just telling you. And one more thing. It talks about microwave, EMP, like... Okay, that's that.
Starting point is 00:22:00 That's that. that's that their brains are so melted that like they they can't see a movie made in the image of all of their fears is made in the image of all their fears like the whole it's so unsettling it doesn't even start properly it's just it just begins you're just in it like yeah man that's that's kind of how a movie goes i like how she talks about she like she like can't enjoy movies anymore which is like the end result of all these all these conspiracy theorists like they just they just can't enjoy life because they see everything as a series of like interconnected incidents leading to some kind of grand narrative that makes it impossible to like actually like be happy which is probably the funniest thing um also that she thinks the movie predicted the death of the
Starting point is 00:22:46 obama's chef which i don't even know if that's real yeah if you're one of these people that's the most significant thing that's happened the last 18 months the obama chef and matthew perry are like the rosetta stone for everything that's wrong in society and not just two people who died because it's a year because mat Matthew Perry used to date Jessica Roberts, who's the star of the movie. Of course, of course. And there's Friends references all throughout the film. So it's all connected.
Starting point is 00:23:10 Subtle Friends references in the movie leave the world behind. You'll miss them if you don't pay attention. So the last conspiracy theorist we're going to talk about is this metaphysical influencer named Tristan Haggard who spends most of his time on stream
Starting point is 00:23:29 selling hormone supplements for men so that they can boost their testosterone and stop being soy boys while discussing various conspiracies. Love it.
Starting point is 00:23:39 He says, quote, cyber attacks, bio-warfare, weaponized Lyme's disease, lone star tick, and chronic wasting disease things that get you to stop eating meat these things these types of programs these types of programs are seeded throughout the film i feel like the tick bite and a lot of that stuff might
Starting point is 00:23:58 have been a little bit of that darpa extracurricular script additions yeah yeah unquote yeah sure yeah of course the the fact that a kid gets bit by a tick and gets all fucked up is like trying to stop you from eating they're trying to stop you from eating meat quote i feel like the average normie might not put together the uh lyme's disease possible bioweapon connection unquote amazing yeah i don't think the average normie might might not put that one together you know that does suggest to me that all these people are going to die in 30 seconds if there's any real kind of unrest because their attitude towards the idea of disease is that was planted by the new world order yeah people won't get sick now these two guys on this stream also said that they they had to stop watching mr robot in the third season because there were too many quote-unquote gay
Starting point is 00:24:51 scenes which is really funny i had to stop watching it in this first season because i don't like remy malik but you know you see i i was built different i had i i had to keep watching just for Christian Slater, but that's just me. He did make it hard to quit. Yeah, yeah. Hi, I'm Ed Zitron, host of the Better Offline podcast, and we're kicking off our second season digging into how Tex Elite has turned Silicon Valley into a playground for billionaires.
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Starting point is 00:26:37 a weird concept, but I promise it's pretty interesting if you give it a shot. Matter of fact, here's a few more examples of the kinds of calls we get on this show. I live with my boyfriend and I found his piss jar in our apartment. I collect my roommate's toenails and fingernails. I have very overbearing parents. Even at the age of 29, they won't let me move out of their house. So if you want an excuse to get out of your own head and see what's going on in someone else's head, search for Therapy Gecko on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. It's the one with the green guy on it. Hey, I'm Jack Peace Thomas, the host of a brand new Black Effect original series, Black Lit, the podcast for diving deep into the rich world of black literature.
Starting point is 00:27:24 The podcast for diving deep into the rich world of Black literature. I'm Jack Peace Thomas, and I'm inviting you to join me and a vibrant community of literary enthusiasts dedicated to protecting and celebrating our stories. Black Lit is for the page turners, for those who listen to audio books while commuting or running errands, for those who find themselves seeking solace, wisdom, and refuge between the chapters. From thought-provoking novels to powerful poetry, we'll explore the stories that shape our culture. Together, we'll dissect classics and contemporary works while uncovering the stories of the brilliant writers behind them. Blacklit conspiracy podcast just complain about how Ethan Hawke is a weak little soy boy. That's not fair. two guys on their conspiracy podcast just complain about how ethan hawk is a weak little soy boy and all of the fair and and and all and all the quote-unquote bipoc people were more like put together and more commanding they constantly say bipoc which is an interesting choice from them that is really fascinating especially since mahershala ali's daughter isn't really a character
Starting point is 00:28:40 in that movie mahershala ali is okay because he's a great actor, but like, it's not like all of the characters who aren't white are like written stirringly well. Most of the characters in this movie are written like dog shit. Mahershala Ali just elevates things. But Tristan here says, quote, there's so much predictive programming
Starting point is 00:29:02 and social engineering of how the mechanics of possible collapse of the power grid collapse and the communications would result in basically chaos and then I have this little clip here of him talking about the big cyber attack right now a lot of people are saying well this is predictive
Starting point is 00:29:17 programming they're going to do this cyber attack and you know we've been talking about this type of stuff for years right with the cyber polygon exercises and the World Economic Forum and working with defense contractors, military intelligence, whatnot, working on the possible scenario of a cyber attack, right? The cyber attack is one of these scenarios that they're saying, it's got to happen, it's coming, the big cyber attack's coming.
Starting point is 00:29:44 But I feel like films like this, the intention could be to make people so afraid of just the mere possibility of a total collapse like this. So they obviously sound like they know what they're talking about there. That's very, very, very polished. Now, Tristan thinks that he has a better idea to kind of seed collapse. Quote, a better way to implement this would be to not really roll out a huge wide scale power outages and communications outages, but make it up protracted, small and localized so that you can still maintain a certain level of propaganda and control and then create enough fear to where people will accept the mandatory digital ID for the internet and the central bank digital currencies and whatnot. It's like a limited type of thing, a regional type of
Starting point is 00:30:30 thing that then is hyped up to be the worst thing ever, unquote. These guys are really like talking about this mandatory digital ID and the central bank digital currencies as being this big threat. And there's going to just be any day this cyber attack, which is going to force us to all adopt this digital ID to be able to sign into the internet. Quote, all you have to do is have most of the normal people afraid enough of the possible scenario and tease it. It's almost like a cyber attack brinksmanship type of thing, unquote. So they think that you don't you don't actually need to have the cyber attack you just need to have people afraid enough that it could happen
Starting point is 00:31:08 by by talking about it in media uh film tv you know all all this sort of stuff you can't even get people to like change their passwords like and it's so funny because like the past few months there actually has been a decent number of cyber attacks constantly yes which are yeah like a very like a constant influx which are all just being constantly handled and it's it's not led to any of these massive apocalyptic scenarios that that that they're talking about no i mean like the movie has part of how the movie has to make this like has to make it like why the movie is set in the middle of nowhere is that if it's set in a city and the internet goes out the way people would actually respond would be like the way they respond when there's just some sort of random outage initially like like uh oh shit my phone doesn't work right now i guess i gotta figure something else out for a second
Starting point is 00:31:58 like it it's it's easier to have it seem disconnected and completely disorienting when you have everybody out in the middle of nowhere without other people around to make shit make sense. I'm going to play one more clip from Tristan's live stream here. I feel like... Well, also, I mean, they haven't been building all of this technocracy stuff to throw it away, right? They've been building it to implement it.
Starting point is 00:32:26 So if there was an outage or a cyber attack or whatever, this would be some temporary limited thing hyped up into oblivion. And, oh, it was all the Trump MAGA people or it was all the Christians that did it to get working with Russia. That's what they're going to say. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:32:43 Yeah, totally. They're going to blame the big cyber attack on the trump christians that's gonna be who's gonna who's gonna launch the big attack totally absolutely that's who everyone will assume knew how to do a hack is the trumpers yeah amazing first we taught them how to change the settings on their smart TV, and now they've hacked the planet. What do we do? As soon as you turn off motion smoothing, then you're ready to go. They're going to hack the system, get in, shut everything down.
Starting point is 00:33:15 Oh, Lord. So this Tristan guy was getting like hundreds of dollars in super chats on the stream. He's verified on YouTube. He has over 100,000 subscribers. on this stream. He's verified on YouTube. He has over 100,000 subscribers. And he is one of the... has some of the not very hidden
Starting point is 00:33:30 anti-Semitism, but I am kind of surprised that he's able to say as much as he is while still being verified and getting all this money. He has this line towards the end of his stream. Quote, The little girl is inside the house with the bunker that everyone else was trying to go to, and
Starting point is 00:33:45 she's sitting at the table, surrounded by like, goy slop. She's just got all the freaking kibble foods like Funyuns and Doritos. She's having a feast of gluttony. It's all freaking globo homo kibble. Fruity pebbles and stuff. She's just gluttonously consuming
Starting point is 00:34:01 a bunch of, you know, trash processed foods. She's just all alone, just looking kind of autistic, unquote. What the fuck? So, yeah, he's just talking about like goy slop. Like there's like the Jews are creating junk food to pacify. Yeah, they want you to eat worms and stuff. Yeah, exactly. So that is most of his interesting opinions on Leave the World Behind, a pretty a pretty bad movie.
Starting point is 00:34:29 A pretty bad movie. You know, there is one real conspiracy theory about it. It has nothing to do with the Obamas or predictive programming. We see a character at the beginning of the movie, a survivalist prepping to take care of his family, even though no one knows a disaster is coming. And later, near the end of the movie, when Ethan Hawke's son is sick, we meet the survivalist again. It turns out he's a handyman. He lives in the edge of town, and he's played by Kevin Bacon.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Now, Garrison, in the classic film Tremors, Kevin Bacon plays a handyman character who, Uh-huh. Kevin Bacon plays a handyman character with his friend, Earl Bassett, Kevin Bacon's character, is not seen in further movies because he gets rich and he marries Rhonda LeBeck and they move off somewhere. Maybe they move to the Northeast, to an island off the coast of the East Coast, where he bought a house
Starting point is 00:35:37 and became a survivalist prepper, informed by his experiences with his good friend, Burt Gummer, the local survivalist who shot a giant worm to death. And maybe Leave the World Behind is a stealth sequel to the first Tremors movie
Starting point is 00:35:52 showing what Kevin Bacon's character does later in life. I would be so much more of a fan of Sam Esmail if he tried to put the Tremors movies into the canon of Mr. Robot. It would have been perfect. I would have completely changed my opinion on this movie. They'd shut up to Kevin Bacon's house and he'd come out with a gun and they'd been like, look, we
Starting point is 00:36:13 just need some antibiotics. He's like, antibiotics? What about the fucking worms? How are you people walking around? And then the movie ends. That's the end of the movie. It was all a Tremors sequel. You Korean- iranian terrorists went into the wrong rec room so um i lastly just want to talk a little bit about some of like you know the obvious problems with this predictive programming idea right it completely ignores
Starting point is 00:36:39 the fact that humans use art as a form of cultural creation. Like we imagine futures in our art specifically because they could come into being. Like a lot of like sci-fi that influences technology comes from this. That's also kind of the basis of Mark Fisher and Nick Land's like a cultural hyperstition where you specifically make art to have this larger cultural effect
Starting point is 00:37:01 that then it can bring things into being as opposed to the more individualistic use of occultism. And then a big part of all of this predictive programming thing is also just like apophenia, right? It's people creating connections and patterns and random data, because it's actually easy to look
Starting point is 00:37:17 back and pick out past media that has seemingly predicted events, but it's much harder to identify current media that is actually predicting future events, right? This is a part of hindsight bias. The tendency that we have to look at past events is more predictable than what they actually were. It's a common psychological response to a traumatic event,
Starting point is 00:37:36 like a big pandemic or a school shooting. There's also, you know, all of these predictive programming theories fall into these kind of contradictory depictions, which is why the, which is why the Hunger Games guy like calls it like reverse symbolism, right? normalizing an incredibly oppressive government in media and film TV. Why is said media almost exclusively about like rebel heroes overthrowing an evil totalitarian government, right? It doesn't actually match. And there's been a lot of like cultural studies showing that whether you portray something in media as positive or negative will strongly affect the audience's takeaway of the stimulus. So if you show something positively, they're more likely to view it as a positive thing. If you show something negatively, they're more likely to
Starting point is 00:38:29 view it as a negative thing, right? This sounds very obvious, but you do have to do like social science to actually like show this is a real pattern. And then finally, I will end this by quoting from that article from the Ohio State University. Quote, there are a few purposes for predictive programming and not all of them have to deal with tyranny. Some of them are meant to lessen the blow of an event like 9-11 or as previously mentioned, the Sandy Hook shootings. The contradiction arises when thinking about why the government would want to warn us or prepare us for Sandy Hook. The whole point of Sandy Hook conspiracies is to doubt the event even happened
Starting point is 00:39:04 so the government would create a conversation around gun control. This would defeat the purpose of staging it if the government was trying to ensure a smaller or inexistent response, unquote. Especially like looking back at what we talked about with like the Simpsons. It's just a fun game people play, right? It sounds like a fun world to live in if you can imagine this interconnected web connecting every single thing that happens to your own experiences. It's a way to turn the world into
Starting point is 00:39:34 this great mystery that you can solve instead of just experiences that you have to live through. These people need real hobbies. Finally, the thing I wanted to mention is that the the upcoming discussion of predictive programming is all centered around this movie coming out next month called civil war which many many of these people in their discussion of leave the world behind are are are very much talking about how civil war just seems like a sequel to Leave the World Behind, because Leave the World Behind seems to get set up like a possible American Civil War,
Starting point is 00:40:10 and how this upcoming movie is itself going to be a massive predictive programming operation to prepare American citizens for civil conflict with each other. So have fun seeing a whole bunch of conspiracy theories develop around this movie that comes out next month. Yeah, that'll be that'll be good. I mean, I wish people would start some conspiracy theories around Alex Garland's TV show Devs, which is dog shit also. And one of the one of the worst uses of that guy from Parks and Rec that I've seen in a long time. Heartbreaking.
Starting point is 00:40:44 They use math to see the past, Garrison. That kind of reminds me of this movie I watched for research called Knowing with Nick Cage, who finds a piece of paper that has numbers that's able to predict catastrophic events. Alex Jones
Starting point is 00:41:00 thought this movie predicted an oil rig explosion in the Gulf of Mexico, but besides that you don't see it. You don't really see it much in these in these circles, despite its very like obvious, like predictive focus. Yeah, mostly devs features a bunch of very good actors standing around and staring at a screen where a grainy picture of Jesus from the past is lit up in like movie theater size screens like it's it's it's very it's very mid
Starting point is 00:41:27 that's what i'm saying about devs it's pretty mid folks don't watch devs yeah i mean same same thing with this obama movie so yeah yeah watch out for the obama's new movies which are all gonna seed the collapse of humanity as well as the a24 civil war movie which is probably probably devious in some way. So have fun with that. You know, I'll say this, Barack Obama. It's not his fault, obviously, that a bunch of racists lost their mind when he became president. But knowing that it was kind of irresponsible for him to make his debut movie production a movie about a cabal taking over the government using secret weapons?
Starting point is 00:42:05 Absolutely. You knew what was going to happen, Barack. You're not a dumb man. Tell me that's not what was going to happen. Absolutely. All right. Well, I think that does it for us today. Have fun predicting the end of this episode.
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