It Could Happen Here - Q&A 2024
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CallZone Media. everything cool zone media welcome to it could happen here it is 2024 a lie it's 2023 robert has just pissed everybody off for the last three minutes and 14 seconds that listener
sophie is gaslighting you it is still december when they listen to this it'll be 2024 you don't know that
i do know that i'm in charge okay moving on we're gonna do some listener questions today but um i
just wanted to you know give a shout out to each member of our team we have shireen lani unis we
have james stout we have mia wong we have garrison davis and we have big bobby e that's right that's
right and uh we're gonna
answer some listener questions thank you for those to those who have submitted um anybody
else want to say anything before i start besides robert thank you to about half of those you
yeah the rest you need to have a chat with yourselves. You know who you are.
I don't think they do.
I don't think our listeners are very self-actualized.
All right, Sophie, take it away.
To each of you, any book recommendations
for introduction to anarchist history and or theory?
If I may.
There's a book called Great Anist by dog section press it's written
uh by ruth kinner who's been on the podcast it's got very short bios of different great anarchists
uh i think you will enjoy it i think you can get the pdf for free online i like to print them out
and put them in as little libraries that rich people like to have in their neighborhoods
uh and red pill them black pill them slowly that way so yeah great anarchists
by dog section press from dog section press by reese mckinnon my one is kind of it's it's
slightly more specialized but uh anarchism in latin america is a great book also the cover
is just gorgeous so you'll have that around all the time but yeah it's really good it's
basically it goes country by country to latin america and talks around all the time. But yeah, it's really good. Basically, it goes country by country through Latin America
and talks about all the anarchist movements, and it's great.
Pierre?
I guess not.
It's sort of anarchist, I suppose,
but I've been doing a lot of union stuff recently,
so I've been thinking a lot about the concept of work.
So I have kind of returned to this really good book,
Crime Think, put out titled Work.
Very basic look into sort of like anarchist,
almost like anti-work theory.
It's just a nice book to interrogate
how the concept of like work and labor
exists in your own head.
I've appreciated that one through the years.
Shireen or Robert, either of you?
I second all those answers amazing answers everybody
wow yeah and i i cannot read so i'm gonna second those answers robert recommends the book uh
isn't it like the no gods no masters uh ak press one with the chaos star oh i mean yeah that's
that's got a lot of like old anarchist essays and shit starting in like the 1800s.
So if you're interested in that kind of history, you can read that.
All right, next question.
I think this will be different depending on the type of episode and like what show people are writing it for.
But I got several different people asking, you know, how long it takes to research right like an average episode so we're talking like not not talking like a a series such as garrison's stop cop city series
but like an average episode where you're talking about something and uh it's a scripted episode
but you're talking about something sure yeah i mean some episodes take months uh if but in average episode usually if i'm putting it together
it might take me like four days from start to completion like i'm thinking of my uh of my uh
desantis fast wave episodes usually you'll have like maybe two days of more research and then uh
two days of like well then like one day of like scripting and then editing that script
on like the the fourth day and then you record so yeah maybe maybe around that i mean some episodes
come together faster some episodes come together longer it really really varies shushu yeah i would
agree with that timeline i think three to four days sounds about right um i've been trying to
take an extra day just to read through the script like multiple times just because um i've been trying to take an extra day just to read through the script like
multiple times just because uh i've been it's just better for like my performance as like weird as
that sounds um so yeah i would say like uh when you write a script the worst thing you can do is
immediately read it after you finish writing it and I've made that mistake before. I definitely have. So taking time is important.
Yeah.
James, Mia, Robert, anything you want to add?
I spent 35 years preparing for the sheet podcast.
Yeah.
It really depends on the episode.
If it's an interviewer, I'll spend maybe a couple of hours, you know, studying up on everything the person has
said. If it's a scripted episode, a scripted half hour to 45 minutes of the show is generally
five to seven pages. That's maybe an hour or two to write and then four to six hours of research.
Although it kind of depends, you know, um,
cause a lot of it's based on just sort of like ongoing research,
right.
Where,
whereas like something will happen in the news and we'll,
we'll do some studying up on that event,
but we're also keeping in touch with like,
like when we have episodes on,
on terrorist attacks and whatnot,
like,
I don't know how to actually like lay out how much time goes into those episodes
because a large part of it is just the process
of, like, keeping up with the way terror is evolving
in American politics.
To a degree, we all have beats, right?
Like, we all have stuff that we just keep up with.
Yeah, like, we're not counting all the time
that we spend, like, in Telegram.
Just, like, watching, right?
The gram, but yeah.
Yeah, sure. That's what kids are calling it
second time this year garrisons found themselves too old to understand a youth reference
my my next question what conspiracy theory or unsolved mystery do each of you believe in
dangerous question for us to answer on air yeah yeah yeah um i just want to point out that garrison
sent me this question to ask so there must be an answer in mind
yeah all right garrison danger davis okay well i i don't know what what even
i'm not sure if I believe in anything
that would be classified as a conspiracy theory.
I would have to think on this, actually.
I don't know.
I don't believe in it,
but I fucking love Bohemian Grove stuff.
It's like one of the OGs
from the beginnings of the internet.
And I just can't get enough about people
who have just never deviated from the Bohemian Grove. like that dude who went there with the combination ar-15 shotgun and tried to like
destroy bohemian grove legend i love reading about that stuff it's nonsense but it's fun
i mean like i actually have oh sorry oh oh no go please okay okay we're doing we're doing we're
doing this one okay if you if you were on the live show, you've heard this.
If you were not on the live show, you haven't heard this,
which is that.
Okay, from the late 1970s until the early 1980s
when it was busted by the Italian police,
the Italian government was run by a rogue Masonic lodge
called the Pici Organization.
Oh, my God.
And it was propaganda due a various elements.
Okay, so there's this thing going on.
Here she goes. There's various elements use the red brigades as a way as a way to assassinate aldo moro uh they they take him to
a hotel that is like it's run by like one of the red cardinals is one of the sort of the communist
cardinals is like in this building is like a nato weapons is like someone a nato weapons uh dealer a NATO weapons dealer, an Italian general, one of the most famous feminists.
I think I see a red laser
hovering over...
This is all real.
This one is insane.
Look, this was on the fritz
of the New York Times in 1983.
The thing is,
every conspiracy theory on Earth
is real, but it was only real
from about 1977
to 1983 in italy like all of them are
they're at the same time like during the aldo moro assassination like the the two groups trying
to free aldo moro are the pope on the one hand and then well actually there's there's the pope
who's working through an israeli
guy in the kesne and the other group trying to free him is the pflp yes she's got all of them
the pump the israelis do you have like a cork board do you have like a cork board with like
red string okay like one of the one of the guys who makes sure who makes sure that the alder
morrow dies is um is he's like a now he's now an insane alex j Morrow dies is he's like now an insane Alex
Jones conspiracy guy like he's on Alex Jones
all the time he was like the hostage
yeah he's the guy
he's a regular fixture
yeah so like the people trying to kill
like the both US the Soviets
independently of each other are
both trying to make sure this guy dies
same with the East Germans
the fucking what's it
called the the beider meinhof group the the the weird german also involved all right meanwhile
i am i am a 9-11 truther uh in there oh my god i don't believe that when you call 9-1-1
it goes anywhere i think i think they're just hooking you up to an AI. It's a con,
people. Oh, shit.
Rudy Giuliani has to pay
those Georgia election workers
$150 million.
That's so funny.
I feel like he's got that.
I feel like he's got that hanging around.
He'll be good. No, but he literally defamed
the shit out of those lovely people.
I mean mean defamation
is like 80 of what he does okay new new favorite conspiracy theory um panera bread made the deadly
lemonade on purpose as a whatever whatever who cares genocide that's where they made it see
i i fully support the lemonade that kills you i think we need more lemonade that kills people
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on this year slash be a part of create what are we most excited to work on next year? And I've been stockpiling a lot of and,
um,
so I,
I,
I,
I got some plans.
I got some plans.
I got some plans.
Do we believe or not?
That's the real question.
I don't know.
That's,
that's someone else's job to decide.
I can tell you from experience that the ATF will visit your employer.
If you include instructions on how to make s*** in your
work. It's legal.
Go ahead, Garrison.
They'll still bully you. Go ahead, Garrison.
I'm planning
to attend a whole bunch of more
kind of occult conferences or paranormal
conventions and get
more into the high strangeness
world this year.
That's something I'm excited about.
I'm really excited.
We're launching a weekly show with Jimmy Loftus
starting in the spring that I'm very excited to be producing.
So look out for that.
Okay, I've been working on this for a fucking year now,
but it's coming next year
which is my episodes on the lab leak stuff
I have a corkboard that makes that
entire Italy rant I made look normal
nobody doubts that you have a corkboard
Mia
I have spent so many hours talking to epidemiologists
yeah
losing my mind but it's coming it will happen
I'm very excited about it
you have been talking about these episodes for quite a while.
Literally a year.
Yeah.
Robert.
You're going to be me a palooza.
I have agreed to do a podcast that is going to be a nightmare.
But you'll all love it.
You'll all love it as it ruins my life.
And I don't know, probably eventually the Robert E. Lee episodes.
We'll get those out you
know what i've been doing i've been working on a t.e lawrence series of episodes that i'm very
excited about amazing lawrence of arabia the guy who invented the concept of insurgency
so that'll that'll be good that'll be a good series i hope hope Robert and I get to go back to Myanmar
and do maybe a visit to some different groups.
That would be cool.
I would like that.
I'm excited to do more migration stuff.
Yeah.
Spend more time on different parts of the migration journey
because I think that's something I've wanted to do for a long time.
I've seen a lot of people do really shitty versions of it
so I'm excited to give it a crack at
not doing a cringe voyeuristic
version of that
did anyone else have an answer
to that? did you answer Sharini?
I didn't
I feel like I have two answers like one I'm not excited
at all because I feel like the most
when I'm most motivated it's when I'm the most
angry and so I'm not excited for things to make me angry and upset but I am looking forward to
I think I like when I have people on that are like experts or they have knowledge that I don't
and so I like the possibility of of having more conversations that are enlightening I suppose
and uh yeah I also would like to talk more about corn
and food that's fine so maybe i should focus on that maybe i should focus on something could happen
here yeah yeah that's that's something i look forward to something to be fun we definitely
want to do more farm animal episodes yes and more food more food episodes but no sure you you bring
up a good point about how this kind of whole show works is that all of
the best stuff we make in my opinion is always related to things that we're passionate about
and passion can come in a few forms uh anger is something that is a big driver of passion but
that's you know usually less fun so it's always nice when we can be able to cover something
that we are passionate about but it comes from not a place of anger,
but it comes from a place of like,
like,
like genuine,
like intense interest.
Yeah.
Like I genuinely love corn.
I loved the conversation about sheep.
So I look forward to the possibility of making things,
not just when I'm like enraged and more when I'm like,
that's a good point.
That's a good point.
That passion can be,
can come from different things.
Cause I was just as passionate to talk about corn than I was to talk about
an important thing that happened.
So.
Yeah.
I have a,
I have a specific question that I vetted to James ahead of time,
which is,
do you have any stories about meeting fans or listeners IRL?
I do.
I've not just had been on to your,
can you, you can air your trauma later.
Please approach Robert when he's buying groceries.
But don't.
Yeah, no, do it.
Don't do that shit.
He's very ticklish.
I am always armed in the grocery store,
so please don't do that.
That's why you've got to tickle him.
Don't tickle Robert, guys.
It's weird.
Yeah, so loads of people,
not loads,
but a lot of people who've
listened to our podcast who come to help in Okumba and they're all very nice uh and I've enjoyed
building yurts and making sandwiches and ladling out beans with them immensely and it genuinely
does make me really happy because it can like when we do the podcast we see like each other
and in our little rooms and and then it just goes out into the ether and you never know who's listening and so it's really cool when people listen and then
like show up and do something that meaningfully makes the world a better place and that makes
me feel very hopeful uh and that's another like passion thing like i think especially the mutual
aid stuff we've done at the border it makes me feel really hopeful that like we can do things just fine without the state and without the resources of masters of capital and without any major sort of
orgs or like institutions behind us like we can just help each other and do amazing things so
yeah when people show up for that it's cool uh slightly weird when they show up listening to
the podcast and i hear myself in their car this is it's not okay uh but other than that yeah i just try to catch up those people
yeah yeah i i too would be trying to catch up if i had to listen to all the stuff we put out
i think it's honestly really cool that people show up for that kind of stuff it makes it makes
so much of the weird parts of being a podcast host worth it when stuff like
this yeah that's been something that uh that me has been pointing out recently how we seem to be
one of in in terms of like you know podcasts that that that cover the sorts of things we do
we're our fan base seems to be relatively offline in a lot of ways and a lot a lot of them actually
a lot of the people actually do a lot of real world a lot of a lot of them actually a lot of the people
actually do a lot of real world stuff which is great like that's that that's kind of the entire
point is that most of the things we talk about there's there's there's ways that you have the
power to change it in small ways you know it's no like large immediate effects like you solve
the problem immediately but there's
there's always small things that can that can slowly change the tide of many of the problems
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I just hate the people in charge and want them to get back to building things that actually do things to help real people.
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and we're back um um i'm gonna ask i'm gonna ask uh what's everyone's favorite christmas movie okay so i i have already talked about my annual batman returns watch party which was a great
a great success this year it was a big hit um i made tons i made about probably like four dozen latkes
uh it was a lot of fun we got to that's a lot because wow wow robert that's you should do this
for a job this is your kind of humor that's crazy what a dub but no we, we got a nice group of people to oogle at Danny DeVito vomiting black goo
for approximately two hours.
So that was a big win.
It's by far the best Christmas movie in my opinion.
No, I agree.
It's my favorite one by far.
Banger, yes.
Me and my family have watched it consistently
since I was like a child,
since I was like two years old.
We just were obsessed with it.
And I don't remember if you said this last year and i already this is
like a repeat of the conversation but i agree that's the best christmas movie uh i can think of
yeah michael keaton total domination here we go best best batman by far by far miles he's just
miles away from the rest so when i was growing up my parents used to ditch my brother and i and
go to the laker game on christmas and we this explains so much oh my god yeah real plot reveal
so much sophie i'm sorry thank i love you i love you parents and i and i respect it but my brother
and i used to watch like we would spend the entire day
watching all the
like Hobbit and Lord of the Rings
movies
nice
and that just feels
that feels like Christmas
to me
sure
but yeah
especially the animated ones
definitely have that kind of like
fantasy jolly
kind of feel
totally
yeah
I
yeah
anybody else
I like to watch
Love Actually
but it's very pretty
aww James
it's so basic of you
I love that
I know yeah
I'm secretly a basic
white lady
but every time I watch it
there's something else
problematic that I
hadn't previously
thought before
and it's getting
to the point where
I should probably
stop talking about it
in public
that's amazing
yeah
now the audience knows
who the biggest wife guy on the team is.
Definitely James.
This is a question for Robert.
Looking back on season one,
if it could happen here,
do you still see a second American Civil War
as a likely or plausible event in our near future?
Yeah, I mean, I think it's possible
we're going to look back on where we are
right now as the earlier stages of it right civil conflict is is pretty widespread i think one of
the differences like for example one of the big differences with that the texas california alliance
yeah the a24 civil war movie is it's clearly imagining like a large-scale military
conflict i don't find that particularly likely but you do have one major political party stating that
when we take power in 2024 uh our guy is going to act as a dictator he's going to imprison and execute his political opponents. And you have widespread
acts of violence and violent threats that are occurring as part of like a, as part of like the
political conflicts that have existed in this country for a while. They have all transitioned
to being kind of explicitly acts of public violence or at least public threats of violence.
You're seeing this.
For example, a lot of the discourse surrounding what's happening in Gaza.
Right. You just had that case where, like, some fucking is like, yeah, we were in it by this point so again i i'm not a believer and a big part of it could happen here is like i don't
i don't think any mass civil conflict in the united states is going to be armies fighting
over states right yeah um because that's that's simply not realistic but i do think we are in
what any reasonable person would say call a mass conflict. And, at least,
if not the promise, that like democracy is the kind of goal and the strongly held belief by large
groups of people that we need an authoritarian system governed effectively by
the people who are presently in power, right? Like you are seeing this kind of struggle between the
idea that we should have a system in which people are allowed to pick their leaders and this idea
that like the winners of the last 20 years of capitalism and politics should be able to solidify
their hold forever. So my,
my big question is whether or not we're going to come to see where we are
right now as the early stages of a civil conflict,
that's going to get progressively more violent and have a progressively
higher body count,
or are we going to see this as part of a global military and political
struggle that is, Of a. Global. Military and political struggle.
That is going to kind of shake out.
The next hundred years.
Of kind of the political status quo.
On earth.
In a similar way to like World War II.
You know more or less.
Laid out the next 80 or 90 years.
Something like that.
I've got two more questions.
Sounds good. First. Do you each of you have a favorite episode. I've got two more questions sounds good
first
do you each of you have a favorite episode
you've put out
we're all trying not to say the cum episode
at the same time
I really
have some really bad news
I really have some bad news
that was the most downloaded episode of
2020
everybody loves talking about cum I really, some bad news. That was the most downloaded episode of 2020. Yeah.
Everybody loves, look, everybody loves talking about cum.
Yeah.
You fucking sickos.
I'm with you, Sharini.
I'm with you.
Sorry, Sophie, you've been outvoted.
I'm never outvoted.
I have ultimate veto power.
I see.
That's what you're seeing, guys.
The struggle between democracy and despotism. This is guys the struggle between democracy talking about right here surfy's on the musk side disgusting
i mean it's it's certainly hard to even pick one episode just from this year i mean
but it's the come episode yeah i will say the come the episode was fun to put together um I we
we really
delved into the uh the trenches
there that few people
are brave enough would you say it
would you say it really came together
Robert
um
I'm gonna answer these questions
for each of you with each of your work
thank you thank you because I'm a fucking professional Garrison for each of you with each of your work. Thank you. Thank you. Because I'm a fucking professional.
Garrison's Cop Cop City work has been just that.
I really I tell I tell this to go out of time.
They're the most amazing storyteller.
You really feel like you are you're able to visualize everything going on with the words that they say.
And I think it's an important story that they've been on top of since the beginning.
I don't think anybody covers labor issues in the way that Mia does and I think Mia has
really done that in 2023 and will continue to do that in 2024 in a way that's not being covered
in mainstream media and I think that those stories are extremely important and have made a significant
impact on uh labor and union culture and strikes and fighting for what's right james
man it's like i want i want to say i want to say the work you do at the border but i really love
when you talk about things that are silly um and i think they're
equally as important but james talk james talking about sheep and the joy that james had when he
talked about sheep is uh is really special but also the work that you've done uh talking about
the war in myanmar and helping people at the border has been extremely impactful to our listeners shushu is a historical almanac to
to all things the middle east and has i think educated not just the audience but also all of
us on things that really everyone should know and i think that she's brilliant and i i love you shereen robert
hey sophie it's the cum episode right that's what we're talking about
but uh it's really hard to pick my favorite robert episode because i record with him like most days
but i i think that what robert has done specifically within bastards this in in 2023 was
really get on top of the bastards we're all surviving right now which um i think he did a
really great job talking about andrew tate i think he did an incredible job getting an episode out
immediately about stockton rush uh the guy who killed all those people under the submersal.
Really, really the hero of the year, right?
The guy responsible for the great feel-good story of 2023.
So much better of a time.
We need, I feel like we can solve most of the world's problems
with another 11 or so of those subs.
That is true.
And a similar socioeconomic group on board them.
You're definitely not,
not wrong there.
I just like to say,
you know,
if you're wondering why the New York times and the Washington post are too
big a cowards to do a come episode,
like we did,
you know,
there's an old quote.
If you want to know who rules you ask who you can't
criticize that's all i'm saying that's all i'm saying garrison i see you i see you doubting me
but you know it's true you know it's true anyways yeah it's r slash no fap all right that's that's
we're done we have 30 minutes we're just gonna ask another
question but like really what's the why what's the point what's the point yeah we've climaxed
guys we did oh my god thank you james thank you james i appreciate the teamwork james
someone had to anyways nobody rub it but my my My apologies to Ian for this nightmare of an edit.
But yeah, anybody have any final thoughts?
Anything, anything?
James, do you have anything you want to plug
in terms of donations or anything?
Yeah, I do actually.
So we have a fundraiser for what we're doing at the border.
It would be really lovely
if you could give us some of your money
because I have spent
all of the money that i have uh and some money that i don't have it's gofundme.com slash hukumba
hyphen migrant hyphen camps or tinyurl.com slash border aid gfm how do they spell hukumba that's a good question because that's probably yeah umba so like it's spanish um but
yeah you can also uh tiny url slash border aid gfm tinyurl.com that's that's an easy one to
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