It Could Happen Here - Texas' War on Trans People

Episode Date: March 2, 2022

The crew takes a look at Texas' brutal new interpretations of the law that targets trans youth with state violence for taking puberty blockers and allows Child Protective Services to investigate and potentially seize trans children and forces mandatory reporters to report trans kids getting gender affirming care. Learn more about your ad-choices at https://www.iheartpodcastnetwork.comSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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walking into the door of their public school. Yeah. Send them to him with a ProtonMail account. Yeah. send them to him with a proton mail account yeah don't let him know what he did to provoke this just frighten him I do like it all this is being recorded yeah that's how you do it the episode's begun

we're including all of that Sophie all of that welcome to it could happen here the podcast where we're including all of that, Sophie. All of that. Welcome to It Could Happen Here, the podcast where we will take pictures of your children entering a public school and send them to you as a threat. But we won't tell you what we're threatening you over because that's, I don't know what that is. Probably terrorism,

technically. I mean, speaking, speaking of child abuse. Yeah. Oh, great. Garrison very proud nailed it yeah yeah so we're gonna be we're doing an episode to talk about the recent kind of letter and opinion piece that the governor of texas and the attorney general uh wrote relating to

trans kids in texas we're We're also planning like a more like a week long worth of stuff kind of going into this issue across not just the states, but also like like internationally as well, in terms of like the growing kind of war on trans people. But because this thing happened, we do want to kind of talk about it now as well, before we, you know, spend a lot of time making a week-long worth of scripted pieces on it. So anyway, we're going to be talking about what happened last weekend, or last week at time of recording, when the Texas Attorney General, Ken Paxton, released an opinion piece on, I think it was Monday the 21st, declaring gender-affirming medical care for transgender children to be child abuse. In response, the next day, the governor of Texas, Greg Abbott,

directed the Texas Department of Family and Protective Services to investigate these practices. And then kind of on that following Wednesday, the letter that Greg Abbott wrote went viral, detailing both the attorney general's kind of opinion that a number of the so-called, quote, sex change procedures constitute child abuse under existing Texas law. to quote-unquote protect these kids from abuse, and I hereby direct your agency to conduct a prompt and thorough investigation to any reported instances of these abusive procedures. And what's really insidious is that, like, it's not even... Of course, there is not gender-affirming surgery done on minors anyway. That does not happen. But this letter actually does go into – it says, according to the Attorney General opinion, it is already against the law to subject Texas children to a wide variety of elective procedures for gender transitioning, including reassignment surgeries that can cause sterilization, removals of otherwise healthy body parts, and administration of puberty-berty blocking drugs or doses of testosterone or

estrogen so it's not it is also including hrt including puberty blockers which again we already give to cisgender children all the time um puberty blockers are given to kids who have early onset puberty who are cis um but it's now including puberty blockers inside like constituting that in its in and of itself as child abuse which is yeah an escalation of things that we've seen before um yeah and then it's also uh talking about how texas law imposes reporting requirements upon all licensed professionals um including doctors nurses teachers therapists and provides you know criminal penalties for failure to report things. So that was the main part of the letter that went viral, detailing the different ways that they're trying to harass, intimidate, and introduce possible legal repercussions to

parents and caregivers who support transgender youth inside the state of texas yeah um it is it is like the perfect example of the thing these people always do when they make laws based on their bigotry which is like reflexively make a law based on whatever is like the fucking Twitter talking point that they've been yelling about and then don't consider all of the different things that it's going to do that have nothing to do with the group of people they're trying to hurt. Yeah, because in lots of cases, this is just going to, it's not even going to, it's going to impact a lot of like queer people in general, right?

Because it's in terms of like reporting things that seem outside the mainstream. So not even necessarily transgender people not even necessarily queer people as well like there's a lot of like you know i i and if definitely when i was growing up there was a lot of like cis girls who enjoy dressing more like butch or tomboy um you know there's there's a and there's a whole bunch of stuff that will just affect like kids in general um with all of this reporting and all of this like and making making these like procedures and like hormone treatments like you know trying to make them seem like they're illegal because that because again like the actual texas law has has not changed it is

it is the it is this is an opinion piece invest directing the uh child protective services to investigate these things so the actual law in the books hasn't changed what it has done is caused a whole bunch of like a possible legal danger um and a massive headache and just a whole bunch of like legal harassment against parents and kids and that's what it's gonna that's what's gonna result in because it's it's unclear what this what the governor's directive is going to actually practically look like um because in the. Because in a tweet on last Tuesday, he said that he's directing the Child Protective Services to enforce this ruling

and investigate and refer for prosecution for instances of minors receiving affirming care. And then the Texas Protective Services told Time magazine on Wednesday that it was going to comply with the governor's directive. But in terms of like directing them for prosecution, there has been like five Texas district attorneys, including the DAs of Dallas County and Houston's Travis County. They issued a statement the day after condemning the directive and saying that they plan to enforce the Constitution. They're quote unquote, that's what they said, and that they are, quote, deeply disturbed by Governor Abbott's and Attorney General Paxton's cruel directives treating transgender children's access to life-saving gender-affirming care as child

abuse. We will not irrationally and unjustifiably interfere with medical decisions made between children, their parents, and their medical physicians to ensure the safety of transgender youth, adding that we will not allow the governor or attorney general to disregard texas children's lives in order to score political points so in terms of you know there's certain parts of the certain parts of the state where even even if protective services does investigate reports of this they're not going to get prosecuted uh but there will be other parts of the state where these they probably will

uh like and because like because it is just an because it is just an interpretation of the law you can still you can still get lots of legal trouble and it's going to be up to juries and other people to decide on what interpretation of the law is going to be enforced and enacted upon um so you're seeing a lot of people being like oh no it's actually okay because the law is not changing it's just the interpretation and we're like well no it actually is a big problem like it's like and it's not even it's actually okay because the law is not changing. It's just the interpretation. And we're like, well, no, it actually is a big problem. Like, and it's not even, it's just the overall, like, it's saying the things that have been gone unsaid for a long time. Like it's making the things that everyone kind of assumed

or was kind of the unsaid bigotry, putting it into writing and making it concrete. And it's like the overall escalation of this thing, which is deeply concerning. Welcome, I'm Danny Thrill. Won't you join me at the fire and dare enter Nocturnal Tales from the Shadows, presented by iHeart and Sonora.

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Apple podcast, or wherever you get your podcast. I mean, it's the thing that happened with like COVID restrictions, like masks and stuff where you've got the cities and stuff where you have kind of more rational leadership are saying like we're not we're not paying attention to this directive from the governor we're going to keep having letting people mask or we're not going to let you you know go after businesses that require masks but with the added dimension of like the rather than it being sort of targeting businesses and schools, it's targeting individuals, and it's allowing individuals to target other individuals

like the Texas abortion law. Exactly. And the primary purpose of this is going to be to basically gradually erode the areas in which trans kids can live in Texas. Like, yep, they'll be able to live in some of the cities for a while at least well and even even in the cities right it's like yeah okay so maybe the the da doesn't prosecute but that doesn't mean that cps can't just can't investigate you and like yes that's that's gonna be a lot of really traumatic yeah a lot of legal harassment because i mean like

dfps cannot remove any child from their parents or guardians without a court order and no court in texas or anywhere in the country has yet found gender affirming care to be considered child abuse. So it has not happened yet, but they sure wanted to happen. And this is these are the next these are the next steps that can make it happen. Right. They are trying to get there with this like incremental like these incremental things, you know, starting off with like legal interpretations of the law eventually they would want to change the law just to reflect this opinion right like they want this to happen

they're just they're trying to slowly slowly slowly get at it and it needs to be pushed back upon because yeah any slow incremental thing that they're going to try to do to make it basically be impossible to live as trans in texas uh and lots of other states as well it's not just it's not just texas there's things like this happening across all of the

united states basically especially especially you know portions portions of the south um and it's yeah it does play into this kind of overall in the past five years, you know, once they lost the gay marriage issue, they're like, okay, the next line of defense for years. Again, it is more so putting into writing the things that have been always kind of unconscious bigotry or even conscious bigotry, but it's putting that into actual stone and making it like cemented. Just at the start of this year, there was new restrictions put in place

for Texas's transgender student athletes playing on K-12 school sports teams. That went into effect on January 18th. It was House Bill 25, authored by Representative Valerie Swanson, requires student athletes to complete an inter-slastic competition to play on sports teams that correspond with the sex listed on their birth certificate at or near their time of birth, which means that the legislation went further than the previous rules from the university of scholastic league um which governs the school sports in texas in which the student's

gender is determined by their birth certificate but that that can also be legally modified like you can change the sex assigned at birth on your birth certificate the new ruling is that it needs to be it needs to match the one that it was at or near your time of birth so again they're finding all these little small things to pry that just makes things overall

be harder to live in and at this point 10 other states have put in very similar laws relating to relating to school relating just to school sports and like bathroom bills and yeah yeah i mean it's it's the the it's the same thing that authoritarians always do which is they're just kind of edging further and further and and continuing to proceed as they do not meet resistance and the goal is to make it illegal and impossible to exist

as a transgender person in society. Part of what they're doing with the wording of how this change in Texas has been announced is they're trying to frame being trans as a contagion that threatens children. And step one of that is proceeding under the aegis of we are protecting children by making these kind of surgeries and stuff illegal but the steps beyond that are eventually banning and restricting the ability of trans people to be around children and eventually be in civil society at all because they're a threat to children that that that's the the logical procession of the arguments that they're making and i think they're proceeding in a fairly logical way in terms of achieving that as a goal. And they're not going to stop until they are stopped by probably force.

If anything stops it at this point, that's what it's going to have to be. Because the local government has realized that that's how you get elected because you can't you can't fix the power grid in texas you can't provide people with anything that makes their lives easier but you can hurt trans people um and republicans are are will are always down with that it's it's it's the thing fascists do where they introduce a false crisis they introduce a false crisis that they can actually take steps to to you know um make changes about but all that ends up doing is hurting more of the population it doesn't actually solve any issue that actually hurts people um it's it's one of the core things in the fascist playbook and i think it's even in the states where there aren't

just like blanket bans on kids being able to participate in sports teams um there's other horrifying things happening. Like in the beginning of February, it came out that the Utah Republicans proposed a commission to analyze trans kids' bodies. Utah Republicans introduced a first-of-its-kind anti-trans sports bill that would form a commission to determine a student athlete's eligibility on a case-by-case basis.

The commission would have authority to establish a baseline range for various attributes, including height, weight, body mass, wingspan, hip-to-knee ratio, and other physical characteristics affected by puberty, bearing trans athletes who do not fall within the established limits from participating in gendered sports. And yeah, asking a government- government appointed panel to analyze the bodies of trans minors does sound like a giant recipe for disaster. And there is some even more, like, horrifying

details. The bill would render the commission, quote, immune from suit, like lawsuits, with respect to all acts done and actions taken in good faith in carrying out their purposes. So, yeah, you can't sue anybody for what happens under the guise of this commission. So yeah, they're just going to be investigating trans youths' bodies,

and yep, there's no lawsuits allowed. Yeah, that's great. Let's give the trans child abuse phrenology panel just immunity from lawsuits. Uh-huh yeah qualified extend qualified immunity to citizens hurting the group of people that uh we don't think are human like this isn't the only way place we're going to see that logic extended towards nope uh you're already seeing it in places like louisiana with these bills to make it legal to kill protesters if you feel threatened. It's the same playbook and it's going to be the same playbook because there's no way to fight it without some sort of force. You can't vote

these people away. The courts are packed for the time being.'s there's only there's not a solution that isn't some kind of force now we can discuss is it like the force of getting the feds to intervene or whatever but like there's no there's no solution that is just like democratic i mean and like biden's office made a statement on this recent texas and law like a law opinion interpretation thing and they're like yeah this seems bad anyway good luck and you're like yeah oh cool on this recent Texas law opinion interpretation thing. And they're like, yeah, this team is bad. Anyway, good luck. And you're like, oh, cool.

Yeah, it's that meme of the person drowning with their hand up out of the water. And they high-five you as you're sinking. And they high-five you as you're sinking. Yeah, that's exactly what's happening. And I think the situation is worse than that, too. Because in the past couple of weeks, something we've started seeing is we've started seeing democratic journals and democratic strategists openly talking about how we need to make concessions to the right

in the culture war it's like okay well what does that mean it's like yeah throw trans kids under the bus right yeah because they can't vote they're already freaks so yeah they're the easiest person to pick away at the rights for. Because overall, just in the past year alone, more than 100 bills designed to restrict the rights of transgender people have been introduced in at least 33 states. It's a record-breaking year for anti-trans legislation that has been introduced. In Arkansas, the state legislator recently banned gender-affirming treatment for minors, including hormone therapy, like, puberty blockers and similar treatments. Again, this is the thing that, like, that could not happen for a long time anyway, just because, like, culturally and medically, doctors would never do that.

But now, at the point where that is starting to change, it is this, like, reactive effect that people are doing. Like, now that these cogs are turning, people are putting the massive brakes on it and putting the thing that used to be just unsaid now into actual legal writing. So now this actually is, like, just not allowed, as opposed to it just not happening because doctors were assholes. So yeah, in Arkansas, you can't even receive hormone treatment or PUD blockersers the bill was called the save adolescents from experimentation act yeah so referring to medical treatment of one of affirming one's gender identity as experimentation um which is not great i mean that is that is how i view it

for myself because i like being a freak but as an overall trend that is that is horrible like that is a horrible way to to phrase this type of thing for a lot of people, especially the people who know specifically what gender they, like, want to be and are. Like, that affects them so differently. I mean, I'm lucky enough just to be more genderqueerish. But yeah, all of these bills are going to affect

so many people in different ways. And it's, it's real bad. Like, shortly after the Arkansas bill prohibiting trans-reforming medical practices was signed into law last April, reports of suicide attempts among trans youth in the state were going up. going up um and the uh dr michelle hutchinson who runs the largest provider of hormone therapy in the state called the ap that uh just just in her office alone during april she saw an uptick in suicide attempts from from uh from trans youth and this is this is it's going to keep happening and like there is you can't trust a lot to stop it like The Arkansas governor, Issa Hutchinson, a Republican, did veto this bill, citing potentially dangerous consequences for trans youth and telling reporters that it was a vast government overreach and a byproduct of the culture war in America. And her veto was vetoed by the state legislator. So it's going to be a looping, endless problem of legal issues. So there needs to be other things. I've been on Twitter the past week just looking at all the GoFundMes by parents of trans kids in Texas who are trying to move out of state so that their kid can receive hormone treatment and just be allowed to be a person without being harassed by Child Protective Services and teachers and the school system.

And it's horrifying, like watching all these people asking for help so that they can move out of state so that they can let their kid be just a kid. And it is really rough. And a big part of why it's so horrifying is that obviously if you're in that situation, you can get your kid out there, of course. But it also means the more people who move out of places like that, the less resources there will be in the future for kids whose parents can't get them out. And the less support there will be, the less –

And, like, there is no real escape from it. Like, you cannot get fully away. And like there is just there is no real escape from it. Like you cannot get fully away. It is that you cannot ever fully escape that type of fascist thought and creep within the state legislator and specifically around, you know, how it's going to affect different different classes of minorities. I will direct people if you want to kind of learn more about this sort of thing. And if you, you know, you can find some stuff around. There's an organization in Texas called TENT, which is the, I just want to make sure I say it right. Oh, no, it's the Texas Educational Network, the Trans Educational Network of Texas. Um, it's one of those, but it is, it is a, it is a, it has a whole bunch of like mental health resources, guides for trans youth in Texas for how to make things slightly less shitty. Um, and yeah, they do, they do some advocacy work in Texas.

There's also Equality Texas, which is another organization that does, that does, um, assistance for transgender people, like in schools. Um, and just, you know, again, trying to make life slightly less shitty. Yeah, the last thing I wrote is just fix your hearts or die, which is the kind of overall message that you can really only give to people who want to do this type of thing, is that, yeah, there's really no arguing with them. want to do this type of thing is that yeah there's really no arguing with them um you have to either they need to fix their hearts or not be around anymore like they're just like whether that be

like they're just secluded to your part of society but it's like it needs to be actually like resisted upon because these people are never going to back down on their own. Welcome. I'm Danny Thrill. Won't you join me at the fire and dare enter? Nocturnum, Tales from the Shadows, presented by iHeart and Sonora. An anthology of modern day horror stories inspired by the legends of Latin America. From ghastly encounters with shapeshifters to bone-chilling brushes with supernatural creatures.

I know you. Take a trip and experience the horrors that have haunted Latin America since the beginning of time. Listen to Nocturnal Tales from the Shadows as part of My Cultura podcast network. Available on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcast. The other part of the problem here, again, is just with how, you know, like this, this is sort of kind of, this is an inherent problem that you have with democracies, right? With, with democracies and civil rights, where it's, yeah, you have a group of people who are an extremely small minority and you know and you know and and this gets compounded by the fact that you're dealing with extremely small minority of people and you know you're already dealing with like the you know the the thing that is called democracy right is only participated in by an

extremely small number of people especially when you get you know especially when you get down to like the state level the local level right Like very few people are actually voting in these things. The people who are voting in these things like want trans people to die. And so, you know, you, you, you, you need some kind of other solution to actually secure to secure civil rights because there's just, there's, there literally are not enough trans people and there are not enough people who support them and care enough to do it and also are in these areas to prevent this through just the

normal like vote blue i mean like i keep seeing this with with texas everyone keeps saying it's like well okay we just gotta vote blue and it's like people have been like people have been saying this about stuff in texas for as long as i've been alive it it has never happened ever. Like it hasn't my entire life. Like they, they keep saying is it keeps not happening and kids keep dying. And yeah, there has, there has to be something else because yeah, Texas is going to come back here.

Texas has been laboriously constructed as a political entity to stymie all of your liberal dreams of, of it going purple. And, and it will continue to be for the foreseeable future. Like you cannot, this is not a voting issue. This is, I mean, like I said, some kind of force is going to have to be used to oppose these people.

They're not, they wouldn't listen if you voted them out. You know, like they wouldn't stop if you voted them out, you know? And they do for, like, they themselves do for us. You can look at all the stuff they've been doing. That's what this is, is force. Yeah, and even like regular people, like this whole thing of like, yes, you should like report to your neighbors if you see a kid who doesn't look like a regular

normal, boring cis child, then yeah, you should report them. You should go harass everyone who works in your school board so that they ban all books referencing anything related to being queer it's like they they do take steps to actually hurt other individuals um and they they can do it through these means that you know they don't necessarily have to always punch you in the face but they can sure direct the state to send agents to your house to, to like,

to intimidate, harass you and threaten to threaten to take away your children. Um, or they can, you know, if you're a therapist or a teacher, you can be fired or put in jail for failing to report, you know,

kids who don't subscribe to their Christian supremacist ideas of like traditional gender roles um because again it's it's not even all it's like again there's not tons of trans people in general usually so like this is just gonna affect a lot of cis kids as well who maybe don't wanna who don't who don't who don't who who just want to dress cool like Like it's like, it's, it's, it doesn't even just like it is, it is, it does affect everybody. So it is, it's a, it's a,

it's a horrible, it's a horrible thing that is not even like, there's no escape from it. And it, it will affect you whether or not you're trans or not. Yeah. And I, and I,

I think it's important to also talk about the mandatory reporting stuff because even with mandatory reporting in general, like even like i've i've had things where i was in a school and my school essentially turned into a police state because there are people who i couldn't talk to about things because of things that happened to me that if if if if any of them heard it and one time someone did and i had to literally beg them like on my knees not to report me right not not to report the thing that happened to me because if you know because because if if if that had been heard like and if that had actually been reported, it would have, you know,

it would have started an enormous process and I would have had to, you know, like the, the, I, I, I would have had to, you know, deal with this, like, this is an institutionalized thing. And that, like the absolute terror that this kind of stuff creates where you have to you know you have to watch every single word that you say around all of the adults in your life because if you don't do it they are going to report you it is like the the level of psychological terror you are inflicting on people is horrific and that in and of itself just is is a cost. And it is something that is going to contribute to trans kids killing themselves. And it's just that simple and that bleak.

It is such a life and death issue. So you have to really be forced to go. Yeah, it goes into like, it's like a very like ontological issue as well. And it deals with so many things around the nature of like being and what you're allowed to be inside a societal construct um and they're just trying to make that impossible for so many people and make everything so limited in their very narrow version of what they want the world

to be that makes them feel comfortable yeah and you know because because it's not it's not what the world is they have to use violence to do it yeah so because it's stuck because that is the rule that that is that is the rules that we're playing by that is the game we're playing yeah my my only the the the the default response to be for those people is yeah they need to they need to fix their hearts or die and just get out of the way and because it's that's they they already have that for us except they don't want us to fix their hearts they just want us to die so like we are way more empathetic than they are um because they can just not be transphobic they cannot they can they can just not do these things um but if they're gonna keep doubling down then yeah well let's well if you want to play by their rules

then we need to start playing by their rules because if they're not going to change the rules then that is the game that they want us to do and again actual for episodes like this I always want to end with here are some steps that you can, like, take that are relatively easy.

And it's challenging for these types of sorts of things. Like, yes, there is things you can do around, you know, getting, like, making sure you're aware of what bills are being talked about in your local, like, your local area, contacting representatives to do stuff, going to going to you know either whether they're school board meetings or stuff but like a lot of the electoralist type of ideas around this feels always so inadequate um that it feels always so fake um that you know it's it's it is so much it feels a lot easier to that to like you know figure out different ways to actually help actual trans people in your area um and give trans people money um like because like that is often can be actually have a way more positive effects at least effects that are like observable but like but there are also ways to stop this type of legislation like

there is that there is there there is ways to do that and i i will i'll try to get into more of that kind of stuff as well once we get you know our our week long of stuff about the war on trans people um that will be upcoming probably sometime in this in this next month yeah um remember folks if anybody ever suggests doing something for children that isn't providing them with food or shelter you should probably hit that person because they're probably trying to fuck something up for somebody. It's nearly always. Don't trust anyone who says they

need to do something to protect children. They're lying to you. As a rule, they're lying to you. Anyway. anyway you guys how's the boy that's Star Wars oh yeah I love when you say ships there's the

Obi-Wans coming out that'll be good I am excited for the Obi-Wans the Obi-Wans will be good speaking of Ewan McGregor a few months ago I saw the film coming out. That'll be good. I am excited for the Obi-Wans because... The Obi-Wans will be good. Speaking of Ewan McGregor, a few months ago I saw the film Velvet Goldmine starring Ewan McGregor, which is a wonderful

pseudo-fictional film but about kind of the glam rock era inside Britain. It's very gay. That makes sense. A whole bunch of very good twink action. And there was one scene where Ewan McGregor's character, he's

kind of based off one of those types of music people. I forget which one it is. I think Ziggy Pop? Oh, okay. I think he's playing kind of a version of that. But there's one scene

where he's doing a performance where he takes all of his clothes off on stage and you get to see Ewan McGregor's dick yeah you do so if people want to see a kind of David Bowie-esque film starring Ewan McGregor it has like a weird

gay emo Christian Bale as a twink and a whole bunch of other really solid twink stuff. I would recommend watching Velvet Goldmine. It has a lot of great stuff. And you do, very early in the film, get to see Ewan McGregor's penis just flapping around on stage. And it's pretty good. Speaking of movies where you see a famous person's dick if you want to see another famous penis the movie galaxy quest contains several shots of tim allen dong i want to see tim allen's

hang and wang as someone who's seen both galaxy quest and velvet goldmine and who appreciates both films dearly you you and ewan mcgregor is miles hotter than tim allen tim allen's dong shot is not hot it's not pleasing it is not supposed to be he is hung over in his like bathrobe leaning over but if you want to if you if you want to see if we see rainer fastbender's dick uh germany in autumn okay that's i i could i could i could do that very weird movie however all right all right all right if you but yeah in terms of in terms of actionable things to make you feel better everyone go watch veligold mine because it has some very it has some very good gender play um has wonderful yeah wonderful stuff around gender wonderful stuff around gayness and yeah the film from like the

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