It Could Happen Here - The Alleged Far-Left Bombing Plot

Episode Date: January 21, 2026

Garrison explains the indictment against members of Turtle Island Liberation Front, their alleged bombing plan, and the operational security practices they advocated while planning the bombing alongsi...de an FBI informant and undercover agent.  Sources: https://www.justice.gov/usao-cdca/pr/grand-jury-charges-four-members-anti-government-group-terrorism-felonies-stemming-new https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/member-anti-capitalist-and-anti-government-group-arrested-and-charged-threatening-ice https://www.courthousenews.com/wp-content/uploads/2025/12/turtle-island-indictment.pdf https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/26378204-tilf-complaint-signed-redacted/ https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/26379390-08918333876/  https://www.instagram.com/turtleislandliberationfrontla/See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Starting point is 00:02:26 Welcome to It Could Happen here. In recent Davis. Last September, President Trump announced a federal crackdown on left-wing radical terrorism by signing an executive order, dubbing, quote-unquote, Antifa, a domestic terrorist organization, and directing federal law enforcement to investigate potential federal crimes related to political violence, especially stemming from, quote, anti-Americanism, anti-capitalism, anti-Christianity, and hostility towards traditional American values, unquote. Last month, the FBI claimed one of their first big victories against so-called Antifa terrorism since Trump's national security directive.
Starting point is 00:03:08 On December 12th, the FBI arrested four people in Southern California who the government claims are members of a far-left group called the Turtle Island Liberation Front. The criminal complaint signed on December 13th by an FBI agent working at the Joint Terrorism Task Force Office in Los Angeles, alleges that these four individuals conspired to construct and detonate a series of bombs in Southern California on New Year's Eve 2025. The four defendants were first charged with conspiracy and possession of an unregistered destructive device. Then on December 23rd, a federal grand jury indicted them on additional terrorism-related felonies. Here's a brief clip from the FBI press conference announcing the arrests where First Assistant U.S. attorney Bill Assaley compared the Turtle Island Liberation Front Group to Antifa.
Starting point is 00:04:09 This case is another reminder about the dangers that radicalized Antifa-like groups posed to public safety and the rule of law. In court documents, the defendants are not just referred to by their legal names, but also by their direct action or. or signal code names. Audrey Eileen Carroll, a.k.a. Osanok or Black Moon. Zachary Aaron Page, aka.
Starting point is 00:04:36 A.K. A.K. A. A. Kharrington or Cthuloo's daughter. Dante Garfield, aka Nomad, and Tina Lai, aka Kickware. The criminal complaint states that
Starting point is 00:04:49 after forming the initial bombing plan, Carol and Page, recruited additional co-conspirators who participated in further planning meetings and helped procure bomb-making materials. On December 12th, the four defendants traveled to a remote location in the Mojave Desert with the alleged intent to build and test explosive devices. An undercover FBI agent was present at the testing site and a surveillance plane observed from overhead. Before the defendants completed assembling
Starting point is 00:05:22 a functional explosive device, the FBI arrested, Carol, Page, Garfield, and Lie. From the court documents that are currently available, the earliest allusion to this New Year's Eve bombing plot is in a signal message dated November 24th, 2025, allegedly from one of the defendants, Audrey Eileen Carroll, to whom they believed was a genuine co-conspirator, but was actually a confidential human source working with law enforcement. according to the indictment. This alleged signal message from Carol stated that she and quote-unquote,
Starting point is 00:05:58 four comrades were planning to go to the desert from December 11th to December 13th, 2025, to, quote, test the items we are going to use for those party plans, unquote. This message references pre-existing, quote-unquote, party plans, which any prior origin of has not yet been elaborated on.
Starting point is 00:06:22 This confidential human source appears to be an individual embedded in the Los Angeles activist scene. The criminal complaint describes them like this. Quote, The confidential human source is cooperating with law enforcement and is a validated and vetted source. The confidential human source has been a reliable source of information since in or around August 2021. The confidential human source is cooperating for financial compensation. The Confidential Human Source does not have any criminal history. The Confidential Human Source provided past reliable reporting on other cases
Starting point is 00:07:01 and has provided reliable reporting in this case, unquote. The quote-unquote Turtle Island Liberation Front appears to be a relatively new group with a social media footprint that only goes back to July 2025. The Instagram bio for their L.A. chapter reads, quote, liberation through decolonization and tribal sovereignty, unquote. Their most recent post from December 12th, the day of the arrests, is promoting a quote-unquote Palestine pop-up market in Culver City. A post from November 28th reads, quote,
Starting point is 00:07:39 If they hurt you, they hurt me too. Our destinies are intertwined. Liberation for one must mean liberation for all. The empire must fall. And from within the belly of the beast, we must be the ones to dismantle it. Revolution is the only way. Stop, quote unquote, peaceful protesting. Rise up, fight back.
Starting point is 00:08:02 We are not outnumbered. They are. Organize and be ready, unquote. As news of this group and the bombing plot spread around the internet last month, among the left, there was a lot of skepticism pointed at the authenticity of the story and the Turtle Island Liberation Front group itself, with questions pointed at its name and some of the language used in their social media posts.
Starting point is 00:08:29 The name derives from a term that some indigenous tribes used to describe the North American continent and is common language among a certain sect of quote-unquote land-back activists. The Liberation Front moniker has been used by a collection of direct-action-based groups, most notably the Earth Liberation Front and the Animal Liberation Front in the 2000s.
Starting point is 00:08:54 Though the Turtle Island Liberation Front group doesn't seem to have been a formalized activist group for very long, there were genuine people involved with this group as evidenced by there being four defendants in this criminal case. The Turtle Island Liberation Front Instagram account was run by one of these defendants,
Starting point is 00:09:15 and the language used in their posts is not uncommon among the quote-unquote anti-imperialists whose ideology is grown in influence among the American left during Israel's genocide in Palestine. And though both an FBI informant and an undercover employee played a part in this investigation, the group seems to have contained a collection of genuine individuals who have participated in the wider Los Angeles activist scene
Starting point is 00:09:41 and especially anti-Israel protests. The indictment and criminal complaint outlined the material steps that defendants allegedly took to detail the plans of this bombing plot and procure materials to construct explosive devices without material support from FBI sources or undercover employees. All the information in the indictment and criminal complaint is alleged, and all the defendants should be considered innocent until proven guilty. The indictment claims that Carol set up an in-person meeting for November 26th to discuss the bombing plot with another alleged Turtle Island Liberation Front member Zachary Aaron Page and the confidential human source, who were instructed to, quote, wear casual block, no devices. If you can't leave it at home, have it turned off and wrapped in tinfoil, makeshift Faraday bag, unquote. During this in-person meeting, Carol allegedly distributed in-person. an eight-page handwritten document titled Operation Midnight Sun,
Starting point is 00:10:48 outlining the plan for the bombing, to both the confidential human source and co-defendant Zachary Page. Carol allegedly retained two to four additional copies of the handwritten plan. The indictment says that Carol explained that the document was handwritten because she, quote, did not want any traces of the attack plan on a computer, unquote. After this meeting, Carol allegedly sent an encrypted message to the confidential human source about the bomb testing camp out in the desert. Quote,
Starting point is 00:11:17 This trip is very spicy, LOL, will be testing the things we're going to make for December, like the things in the instructions on that document I gave you. Testing first is important, so we know how well they work, L.O.L., unquote. The plan was for teams of four on-the-ground participants. to plant backpacks containing quote-unquote complex pipe bombs or IEDs, improvised exclusive devices, outside of buildings at five locations targeting two U.S. companies, and then simultaneously detonate the bombs at midnight on New Year's Eve 2025. There would be one off-the-ground member assisting the teams remotely by listening to police scanners
Starting point is 00:12:02 or stationed in a vehicle in case, quote, an emergency getaway is needed, unquote. And one member of each on the ground team would create graffiti of, quote, a red triangle and one message of the team's choosing on the sidewalk closest to the building while the other three are placing the devices, unquote. The indictment claims that the handwritten plan also instructed co-conspirators, quote, once you plant your IEDs, if there is any time to safely do so, dump an accelerant around the premises, such as gasoline, for added effect.
Starting point is 00:12:40 We want to do as much damage as possible, unquote. The plan identified five target locations as, quote, unquote, marks, with five more blank slots, captioned, add more if enough comrades. The criminal complaint states that these targets were, quote, property and facilities operated by two separate companies that are used or engaged in activities affecting interstate and foreign commerce, unquote. I'm going to quote from three sections of the criminal complaint that outline some of the Opsack or operational security precautions that are allegedly included in this handwritten plan.
Starting point is 00:13:21 Quote, the plan described multiple operational security measures the co-conspirators should take to conceal their identities, such as the use of a burner phone that would be disposed of after the bombings by, quote, submerging it in a concrete brick after destroying the sim and then disposing of the brick in a body of water, unquote. The target date of the operation, New Year's Eve, was identified as an opportune time because, quote, fireworks will be going off at this time, so explosions will be less likely to be noticed as immediately as any normal day, unquote. The plan emphasized that, quote, absolutely no mistakes can be made, unquote. The plans outlined the use of, quote, unquote, black block over top of a layer of, quote, gray slash casual
Starting point is 00:14:07 block on top of normal street clothes, and noted to keep hair very tightly concealed and to wear gloves for the purpose of avoidance of leaving behind DNA. The plan further instructed that participants should leave their personal devices at home and to make sure the devices were set up to stream a long movie during the time of the attacks, as so to craft an alibi or, quote, unquote, plausible deniability by having it appear as though the actor was actively using their devices. The plan discussed free operational surveillance of targets, identification of D-block or de-clothing locations, and not leaving, quote, anything other than the IEDs behind, unquote, as they could not, quote, risk any evidence.
Starting point is 00:14:55 evidence tracing back to us, unquote. The plan also noted the benefit of placing a small pebble in a shoe to alter natural gate to obfuscate their identification. Instructions on how to purchase materials to construct a pipe bomb suggested using cash only, purchasing in small quantities to avoid suspicion, and splitting purchases amongst a team rather than individually. In addition to the plan of action and operational security tactics, detailed instructions were provided on the components required to build a pipe bomb, as well as how to create homemade gunpowder. Unquote. Every January, we're encouraged to start over, but what if this year is about slowing down
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Starting point is 00:19:31 Shut up. Listen to where Atlanta is on the I Heart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. On December 2nd, there was another in-person meeting between the law enforcement source, Carol and Page, as well as two other co-conspirators to go over the plan. They met again on December 7th to review the bombing plot and allegedly discussed. intent to conduct future attacks against federal offices. This meeting was also attended by an undercover FBI employee who was being recruited to join the operation. The undercover asked Carol about the black powder instructions in the handwritten plan,
Starting point is 00:20:17 and Carol responded that she conducted the research herself and discussed wanting to test several different types of bomb to determine which could quote unquote completely pulverized their assigned building on New Year's Eve. To quote the criminal complaint, Carol stated that she had acquired some components, 13 PVC pipes, and that she had bought potassium nitrate on Amazon using a burner account
Starting point is 00:20:44 that was scheduled to be delivered on December 11, 2025. During this in-person meeting, Carol confirmed that she operated the Turnell Island Liberation Front Instagram account, and that she had met a co-conspirator through said Instagram account. The indictment claims that Carol told co-conspirators in this meeting,
Starting point is 00:21:04 quote, what we are about to do. That's going to be like a Luigi-level situation, unquote, and that it was time for America to fall and that America falling will make Israel fall. According to the indictment, during this December 7th meeting, Page told attendees,
Starting point is 00:21:23 again, including an undercover FBI employee, that they were doing everything quote, to be as clean as possible because 100,000% the FBI is going to be like on that shit. Yeah, so we all know what we're getting into, unquote. In person, Page outlined some of the operational security precautions to avoid law enforcement detection, like covering shoes with socks to cover shoe prints and burning shoes after the bombing. Page also allegedly asked attendees if they would like to release. receive firearms training from a group that held a training about a month prior, and Carol said
Starting point is 00:22:04 that she had a contact who could obtain unregistered ARs. This wasn't the first time Turtle Island Liberation Front members allegedly brought up firearms. The indictment claims that on quote, December 3rd, 2025 defendant page, using an encrypted messaging application, asked the confidential human source if the human source was interested in receiving firearms training, explaining his plan to shoot ICE officials. In a voice message to the confidential human source, defendant page stated, quote, I just had this daydream. I was like, we're just patrolling or whatever, and we're strapped, right? And we see ice trying to pull up on someone or a group of people. And we just like, roll up on them, like strapped up. And we're like, nah, get the fuck out of here.
Starting point is 00:22:53 They're going to get shot if they try to do anything. Like, we shoot first, we ask questions later. That's the policy. I told that to, in brackets, defendant Carroll. Defendant Carroll knows all about this. And brackets, defendant Carol was like, yeah, let's fucking do it. But I'm like, seriously, that is what's needed. Maybe if ICE agents, they're like, wait, I don't want to get fucking shot right now.
Starting point is 00:23:17 They ain't going to do it. And if they still try to do it, well, guess what? Welcome to the dirt motherfucker, unquote. after sending this voice message, Page told the confidential human source, quote, let me know when you listen so I can delete it, unquote. Small lines like that are part of what I find really interesting in this Turtle Island Liberation Front case, because the indictment and criminal complaint are just full of the defendants recommending these security folklore practices, like setting up your phone to stream a long movie to create an alibi,
Starting point is 00:23:50 and placing a small pebble in your shoe to, alter your gate, deleting these messages after you send them, which they're trying to do all while working with not just an FBI informant, but also an undercover agent. During the December 7th in-person meeting, Paige and Carol discussed plans for future attacks after this New Year's Eve bombing plot, specifically a plan to target ice agents and vehicles with pipe bombs starting around January or February 2026, with Carol noting in the meeting, quote, that would definitely take some of them out and would probably scare the rest of them, unquote. Now, following this meeting, more co-conspirators, including an undercover FBI employee,
Starting point is 00:24:40 were added to the signal group chat called the Order of the Black Lotus, which Carol described as the radical faction of the Turtle Island Liberation Front, and which Page described as quote-unquote, super underground. The indictment contains some alleged messages sent to an encrypted group chat. It's unclear if this is specifically the order of the Black Lotus chat or another Turtle Island Liberation Front related chat, but I will read through some of these messages. Quote, page messaged co-conspirators,
Starting point is 00:25:14 including defendants, Harold and Garfield, quote, death to Israel, death to the USA, death to colonizers, death to settler colonialism. In response to Defendant Page's message, defendant Carroll stated, quote, death to them all, burn it all down, three burning heart emojis, unquote. Defendant Carol, messaged co-conspirators, including Paige and Garfield, quote, I identify as a terrorist, and I am a Hamas fan girl, unquote. Garfield messaged co-conspirators including Carol and Page.
Starting point is 00:25:50 quote, I am here to destroy Zionism by any means necessary. Real activism equals destroying Zionism by any means necessary, even if it's risky. If you aren't willing to die for or lose your freedom, then you're just another toy in the machine, unquote. Carol messaged, quote, glory to the martyrs, death to Israel, three salute emojis. And on December 3rd, defendant Carol told the confidential human source, quote, these fucking SJW peaceful protest libs are insane. Like it's wild to me that I've seen state violence enacted on some people like that, and they still think they can keep going with peaceful protest BS and indirect roots, unquote.
Starting point is 00:26:35 Defendants used the Black Lotus Group chat, what Carol described as, quote, our group for everything radical, unquote, to discuss sourcing bomb-making parts, including cotton string and PVC pipes, as well as coordinates for the explosives testing site in the desert. Quote, where we will set up camp and where we will test, unquote. On the afternoon of December 10th, Page messaged the group about just having acquired two parts for the bomb recipe, and that starter would be picked up later that day.
Starting point is 00:27:07 Page was under FBI surveillance around the time this message was sent, and 15 minutes prior to sending this message, Page was seen grabbing a package from an Amazon pickup location. Hours later, FBI agents watched Page buy pistol primers from a store in Irving, California, quote, dressed in a manner to obscure Page's identity, namely wearing a medical mask, gloves, ball cap, and long-sleeve shirt, to quote the criminal complaint. Carol replied to Page's messages about obtaining more items from the ingredients list, writing that another package was, quote, already delivered, got to pick it up tomorrow, but
Starting point is 00:27:48 yay, with four whys, unquote. The criminal complaint says that, quote, according to Amazon records on December 7, 2025, Carroll purchased two five-pound bags of potassium nitrate, 99% pure-prilled K-N-O-3, 5 pounds, for industrial and technical applications to be delivered to the Amazon counter at the Whole Foods located at 3377 South La Siena Boulevard, Los Angeles, California. The potassium nitrate was delivered on December 11th, 2025, unquote. In early December, Carol messaged the confidential human source on Signal a list of components, chemicals, and tools, along with prices of the required items.
Starting point is 00:28:34 Several of these components were either listed as already purchased or designated to be acquired by another quote-unquote comrade. Carol advised the confidential human source, quote, with the list, write it down when you have some time, then I'll delete that message so it's no in the chat, L-O-L, unquote. Carol also told the confidential human source that they should get some burner phones, quote-unquote, bought with cash only.
Starting point is 00:29:00 For the bomb testing camp out in the desert, Page instructed the group to only bring two burner phones to use in case of emergencies, and for directions on the way out. To quote the complaint, quote, once everyone arrived, their phones would be put in a small cardboard box
Starting point is 00:29:15 completely sealed with aluminum. The phones would not be returned until the caravan was out of the campsite and back on the main road, unquote. For getting to the desert, Page wrote that each navigator should have a burner phone, and quoting Paige in the complaint,
Starting point is 00:29:29 quote, no phones besides burners and all phones except navigators to be wrapped in foil or a Faraday bag for the entirety of the trip. and install OSM and. It is an open source maps, so no corporate tracking, unquote. Garfield wrote, quote, I have a few burners, but I'm saving for the big event,
Starting point is 00:29:49 the big party celebrate emoji, unquote. On December 10th, Carol sent the confidential human source a message on signal reading, quote, I kind of hand this notebook where I wrote down multiple plans that never happened or got delayed. So it's like my terrorist diary, L-M-A-O-O-O-O-O-O-O-O. I have to get rid of that, unquote. A new year doesn't mean erasing who you were.
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Starting point is 00:34:33 To quote from the complaint, quote, In the undercover vehicle, Paige discussed using cigarettes as a delayed fusing device for the explosives once they arrived. in the desert. In the other vehicle, Carol explained to Lye that the day's events were meant as a test run for the New Year's Eve bombing plot, which Carol described in detail, stating, quote, what we're doing will be considered a terrorist act, unquote. In response to Carol's detailing of the New Year's Eve plot, Lye asked if there would be any people at the bombing target locations. Carroll responded in the negative, but noted that if they saw any people, such as a security guard, at any of the locations, they would warn them.
Starting point is 00:35:15 At approximately 10 a.m., the co-conspirators arrived at the desert and began setting up a campsite including 10-cent tables. Based on information from the undercover and confidential human source, Carol, Page, and Lye all brought bomb-making components to the campsite, including various sizes of PVC pipes, suspected potassium nitrate, charcoal, charge, and charcoal, charge, and charcoal powder, sulfur powder, and material to be used as fuses, among others. After the undercover, alerted law enforcement with a predetermined signal indicating that bomb testing was imminent, FBI personnel intervened and placed Carol Page Garfield and Lye into custody. Unquote. This is a clip from the law enforcement press conference announcing the arrests with Akeel Davis,
Starting point is 00:35:59 assistant director in charge of the FBI Los Angeles field office. On December 12th, A group of individuals, again, members of this anti-government group, traveled out to the desert to test their explosive devices. They had precursor chemicals there, and they were going to create these bombs in the desert. What they are starting to do is put their chemicals and wares and the components out on the table there. This footage that you're watching is from our surveillance plane, And then what happened after this is the Los Angeles FBI SWAT team, along with the FBI's hostage rescue team, moved in and arrested all four subjects without incident.
Starting point is 00:36:46 The criminal complaint notes at the end that, quote, based on conversations with the bomb technician, while no quote unquote end caps were found at the campsite, the co-conspirators could have improvised using other material to plug the end of the PVC pipe, though such method would have. have been less effective than using a proper end cap. As noted above, there were also sufficient parts to create several Molotov cocktail devices, unquote. After the arrests, law enforcement also raided the homes of the Turtle Island Liberation Front members. In Pages' residence, police found a copy of the handwritten attack plan, Operation Midnight Sun.
Starting point is 00:37:29 That same day, December 12th, another Turtle Island Liberation Front related arrest was made all the way in Louisiana. A former Marine who was member of the Order of the Black Lotus Signal group under the name Dark Witch She Her, who was also planning to instruct the group on quote, urban tactics, accuracy, and combat shooting, unquote. She was arrested while driving from New Iberia to New Orleans with a rifle, handgun, gas canister, and body armor. The FBI believes that she was going to carry out an attack based on a Facebook post commenting on a Border Patrol
Starting point is 00:38:07 arrest in New Orleans, captioned quote, shit, time to recreate Waco, Texas with these fuckers fuck ice, unquote. Three of the defendants in the Los Angeles case, Paige, Carol, and Lye have pled not guilty.
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