It Could Happen Here - The Club Q Shooting

Episode Date: November 30, 2022

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zoom screen chris garrison shereen and james hey everybody how's it going good great and we've brought the full crew in to talk about the worst shit so yeah a whole bunch of kind of kind of not great things have happened the past week yeah um so yeah we took we took last week mostly off from work due to a series of court cases. And thanks to an injunction, we're allowed to podcast again. as the people we are kind of had specific bits of insight on that I think might help catch our listeners up to some maybe underappreciated aspects of some of the big stories of the last week. So we wanted to start with the mass shooting in Colorado Springs, specifically talking about the family of the still alleged, but, you know, definitely did it shooter. James, you want to kick us off there yeah i wanted to start out with this um so that the alleged shooter is is called anderson lee aldrich right um uh but comes from a an lds latter-day saint family in san diego uh and like i think everyone has probably seen this very viral 30 second clip of his father that went

around twitter um but that'd be today after the shooting and his dad just so we're super clear on this says some disgusting things and there's a piece of shit for saying them i don't want to excuse any of the shit he said i also don't want to excuse the way that that was cut because i think it was pretty pretty shitty like there are people we should be really fucking angry at and his father is one of them but his father didn't excuse the shooting and if you look at that eight minute interview he says that like what happened was was wrong etc etc and there are people who have excused the shooting right like yeah i think chris is going to speak to some of them tim pool tucker carlson people who created a climate where this happened and have asked for it to fucking happen again and are

asking continually for it to happen again his dad didn't do that like again his dad um his dad doesn't seem to have been a great dad right his dad was was uh like using when he was a kid his dad was abusive rewarded his violence i think we all know lots of people who were raised in those climates who didn't go on to shoot up a nightclub and it just kind of i saw some i don't know i was upset by the response to that in a sense because like i know so many people who come from from families and homes like that and i like being like oh he was doomed to be this way because of how his dad was just like isn't i don't know it just upset me it's not the response we need you know like i

think we should hold like hold what his dad said like hold his dad to account for what he said but also not like allow that to explain yeah i have a couple i like i have confused feelings on it because his dad does go into a long thing where he says you know you shouldn't there's nothing that justifies violence you know these people's lives were precious all lives are precious but he also was like I taught him that violence uh was a great way to solve problems um and you know expresses that he was glad to learn that his son wasn't gay and I don don't, he's fucked up. Yeah. I don't know.

I don't. Yeah. I don't know how much I want to like interpret that as he, he really meant what he said about nothing justifying this and those people's lives being precious, because that is kind of this thing that like you get on the, and this guy's obviously not a thought leader on the Christian, right? Not like a,

he's not like a luminary. I don't think he contributed outside of, you know, the things he may have raised his son to believe to the broader national climate of hate right now. There was just a study that was released today that from the armed conflict location and event data project, data confirms that anti LGBT mobilization is now the leading driver of far right protest activity in the US. So obviously, this guy didn't make that happen. But I noticed a similarity between like the I there's nothing worse than my kid being gay, but also when a bad thing gets done by a Christian to gay people. people well their lives are still precious we just like hate what they how they live them yeah um i don't know i don't know how where to where to go further with that but you're right that like that the the 30 second clip is very dishonestly edited in order to like um cut out a lot of what this guy was saying which i have a problem with regardless of who you're doing it to yeah it's just it's bad journalism and like i would rather we point our rage at the people who are going to make this happen again unless we stop them um yeah like this guy i'm this guy

the degree to which this guy contributed to this massacre by being this dude's dad um i don't think there's anyone else he's going to push into killing if if he indeed did that whereas people like tim pool uh are going to continue to do that yeah yeah and also i i do want to say like like the the mormon church does not get a pass for this yeah like no absolutely unbelievably fucking homophobic like absolute piece of shit super racist like yeah and you know a lot of people really haven't been talking about this and they should because they fucking suck and yeah this is this is as you know like yeah it turns out when you fucking have a bunch of people like giving sermons about fucking musket balls like this is what happens yeah you know they don't they don't get off the hook for this either no and they're like

domination of politics in some areas it really needs to be seriously looked at um talking of like domination of politics i do want to talk about his grandfather a little bit yep because his grandfather is bonkers uh so his grandfather is called randy vopal uh might be pronounced verpal um but he's he was mayor of santee so santee is a town east of san Diego. It's not very far east. I think, Shireen, you're probably familiar with Santee, right? Yeah, Santee is a place. That's about it. People sometimes call it Clantee.

Definitely, like Metzger was there for a while, right? Yeah. When Vopal was mayor in 2001, there was a school shooting in Santee, about which he spoke. He hasn't spoken about this one yet at all. He's lost. Yeah, strange that.

Strange. He's pretty much gone. Which is not like... When this guy speaks, he rarely helps himself when he speaks to media who don't agree with every position he's on. So I want to ground

like he became mayor of santee in 2000 in 1999 a black marine uh by the name of carlos colbert who was a lance corporal in the marine corps was beaten and paralyzed by five white men at memorial day party in santee like and that doesn't represent the whole town, but that was how people thought of that town in the early 2000s. It was always a place to avoid. Like, you don't really want to go there. I don't know. Yeah, I have friends who still don't want to go to Santee.

Like, I have friends who are, like, delivery drivers who are, like, black people who have been told, like, they used to not send black folks delivering to Santee. Like, it definitely has, whether or not that's the case now, it's becoming more diverse, I think like ethnically, but it certainly has a reputation

of being a place where like it's not safe. And this is a place that elects him as mayor in 2000, right, 2001. They have a high school shooting and he just kind of continues to spout some absolutely crazy stuff it's probably worth noting that he's not as uh like far from the like the norm of the gop which is still a long way from like good uh when it comes to like lgbtq stuff as he is for other things uh like his his probably

his most famous crazy position is that climate change is good because most of our enemies live in i'm quoting now most of our enemies live in hot climates desert climates it will probably have a negative effect on their environment most of the muslim nations are in hot areas of the world. Honestly. Wow. Just absolutely incredible. Did we find the world's first pro-eco-fascist? Also, it is pro-climate change fascist. I have met a few

anti-cis people who are pro-climate change because it will bring on the destruction of civilization. But this is a whole other level. Do you want to dry us out. Guys, do you want to know why he thinks this climate change happens? Please. Oh, God.

I believe about 1% of climate change is impacted by human beings. The rest of the 99%, that should not rest at 99%, rest at 100%, buddy, is solar cycles, quote, the natural wobbling of the earth and volcanic activities. Oh, this is the classic anti-climatic stuff. Yeah, there's a couple of good ones. I personally partial to we didn't have enough CO2

and climate change is the only thing that's going to save us from the CO2 shortage that we were experiencing. Notable other vocal bangers include I'm getting attacked out here by the Viet Cong, stealing my copper and I don't like it. It would be super funny if it turned out that the Viet Cong had sent like

a deep cover special spec ops unit to California just to fuck with this guy's copper. To pull copper out of his head. Yeah, just. All right, good. He's just he's just a yeah, just a powerful example of what happens if you lick lead paint. Yeah, like just powerful example of what happens if you lick lead paint. Yeah. Like, just an incredible boomer. So he was voted out in 2020 by a considerable margin.

I think he got about 30% of votes. Jesus Christ. Okay, so, oh my God. He's no wonder. 2022, sorry. So he's serving out his- He just got voted out. Yeah.

He was there for 20 years? 10? How many? He moved in, I think, 2016. He moved into the California Assembly. So representing this massive... Jesus Christ. Yeah, yeah.

Statewide office. Good God. I mean, this is the thing, though. Out here on the left coast. California, it means one thing to people who have never been to the West Coast. But if you've been to the West Coast, the conservative parts of California, like the Republican Party, they're massive. And the Republican Party has absolutely locked in control.

It is very difficult to move them in places like fucking OC. There's more Republican voters in California than most states. Than most red states. Yes, yeah. If you want a slice of Eastern California, just check out Riverside County Sheriff Chad Bianco's Instagram, where he mostly just rides around on a horse and criticizes COVID restrictions.

But yeah, this is, yeah, it's really something. Incredible poster. But this is, I think, something uh incredible poster um but this is i think an insight into like this side of california that people it doesn't mean that everyone who lives in this county of course is bigoted or racist like there are lots of very nice kind people in this county i know there are some like anarchist communes out there but um yeah this vocal claims he hasn't spoken to his grandson for years but i this guy has been spouting this shit for 20 years, right? Like he became mayor of Santee in 2000.

That was when this shooter Aldrich was born. So like for his entire life, Vopal has been saying stuff like the Viet Cong are stealing my copper. I mean, it is true that this person did grow up surrounded by a constant bubble of of homophobic rhetoric dehumanizing rhetoric and that that does shape the person that you are obviously that doesn't yeah it doesn't mean you're gonna go do a mass shooting there's lots of people who grew up in those environments who turn out to be very wonderful people um but but yeah that is definitely

like the environment that you're raised in and around obviously affects who you're gonna be and the shooter is posting burning a pride flag on his very limited social media presence right and like

every time his granddad had the chance he voted against rights for he was raised in an environment where hatred of LGBTQ people was not just present, but was used as the justification regularly for legislative action. And he was also raised in an environment where all of the men around him would have praised violence in different ways. And the fact that he wound up doing violence uh against the queer community is not like surprising yeah yeah wasn't his dad also like an mma fighter

yes ufc whatever some yeah some sort of combat sport yeah he's also in a bunch of porn movies a lot of porn movies because i i think a lot of things were normalized that were just like maybe not for other people. Yeah, that is a man who has no barrier between the two sides of his nose due to a lifetime of snorting every single chemical he can possibly get his hands on. Not that there's anything wrong with that.

Yeah, his dad doesn't seem to be like entirely lucid in his interview. Well, the other aspect of this is that the shooter in Colorado was like a known figure as well. He wasn't a nobody. Like people had, he did like a bomb threat last year. There was a standoff with the police where he was in armor threatening to go out shooting.

Yeah. I was really, I'm really hoping the conversation shifts more towards him as a person because I can only blame the family so much. Yeah. He's done some terrible things. I think that's getting glossed over by the fact that he has people in his family that are questionable. I think the number one thing we should be pointing out, because I also don't believe we should be focusing entirely on his specific actions. We should be focusing on the fact that it would have been incredibly easy to stop this

guy. He was the most obvious candidate for a mass shooting imaginable, and nothing was done to stop this. Like, that's that's the obvious answer is that, like like whiteness is very helpful when it comes to hate but yeah and like i don't know with crime in all of the time i've been following mass shooters i can't think of one that more directly talked about wanting to do a mass shooting in a way that was immediately obvious to all of the law enforcement in his area and had already forced a response from them there was absolutely and and again for talking about his gun control always comes up in this colorado has red

flag laws like colorado has the restrictions people say should be but the problem is that none of them were actually used against him um anyway and that i think comes back to like again the the problem like one of the largest problems, with gun regulation is that you're relying on the police to enforce it. Exactly, yes. And the cops believe, like, 95% of the same shit that this guy does. So, you know. Yeah, they, again. Keep letting these people come to pride.

Like, this is going to go great for you. They just assumed he was an excitable boy and it was gonna be, you know, he just needed to get it out of his system that time he had a standoff with the police over a bomb threat where he talked to his mom about wanting to go out as a mass shooter. Like most young men do. Like all young men do.

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you'll get sleepy and you'll get very hungry you don't have to sleepy and hungry pilled look james as a podcaster it's my job to tell people to take medicine not to have any responsibility for what happens when they do well i'm just gonna go fly up to canada and get some free insulin and then come back smuggle it down that actually yeah dude yeah maybe consider just have them fill up your car what are we talking about next yeah so i i want to talk a bit about the reaction to this on the right because yep this is something okay so like, the far right's reaction to mass shootings has never been good. Like, I sort of put this out of the baseline. No, but it's usually been like, oh, this is still unfortunate that it had to happen. Yeah, yeah, it's usually like, well, this is like mental illness, this is like the pills, something. Like, they are just pretty open.

Okay, so here's the thing. When I originally did this, right, I had a Tim Pool tweet that I had pulled. And then he made, like, every successive time we were about to record this episode, he makes another even worse tweet. So here is the most recent bad tweet. First off, I do want to, we have to one of the things I want to try to keep in mind

is we are more online than a decent chunk of our audience. Tim Pool is a guy who attained prominence live streaming during the Occup street uh rallies he kind of framed himself as a broadly progressive kind of liberal uh journalist but he's like a skateboarder and he's doing shit you know he's live streaming a lot he's doing you know experimenting with all these like novel ways of covering the news at the time you know we're talking like 2012 um obviously

people since then have pointed out that like, he was kind of a giant dick at occupy. I know people who were there who fucking hated him. Yes. Like, yes. He, he,

he had a big platform as a result of that. He got hired by vice for a little while. Most serious journalists who have worked with him will point out that like, he's a giant asshole and like kind of not good at anything and just like not very smart like doesn't really know what's going on or deliberately obtuse i've heard people like the anyway uh he gained prominence as he kind of increasingly through the trump years would lean in on hard right stuff while still claiming to be liberal and progressive and just that he was increasingly lost by the progressives who have gone crazy for wokeness.

Yeah. Anyway, he's just gone so that he's, he has a huge audience. He does a lot of like live streaming. So the primary way that like, and when I say that he used to do live streaming where he would show up at a thing, he's rich now. He doesn't leave his leave his house in Maryland. He sits there and he plays clips from the news and looks at articles. And he reads news articles written by other people.

And talks about them. Usually wrong. Poor commentary on it. And has millions and millions of followers. And is constantly and continues to platform people who are self-described fascists. Far-right people um he's kind of he's like a he's like a vector point in yeah that whole yeah he's very large he's fairly influential within the social media algorithm of particularly twitter um he's able like his he's able to get shit trending a lot on Twitter. So he's not someone you can entirely ignore.

He has, he has an impact on like national discourse and he's a lot of people on the right. See him as a valuable person. He's had Alex Jones on, he's hanging out with Kanye and Nick Fuentes now, which is what we're about to talk about. But the thing since, uh, since the Colorado spring shooting, he's gone kind of completely mask off about the groomer thing. And most of his comments have been along the lines of like,

well, these people were hosting a groomer event. And so violence was inevitable. Yeah. And I mean, like, that's not, I'm just going to read one of those tweets. Like that's not an exaggeration or any kind of reading of subtext. Literally what he said was, quote,

it seems around 10 p.m. Club Q posted that they were having an all ages drag show the next day about two hours later the shooter came in people keep calling for wood chippers and this is what happens yeah like yeah and this has been this has been a thing across the entire right like they're just there's openly either like very very openly celebrating this or you get you know like this is one of like one of the things that it's inevitable because the gays are so degenerate like jimmy fucking door has gone like just completely like like i literally started with like started this thing on this with a giant rant about how like how like disgusting it is that like drag queens around kids it's like they they are just openly into full scale just openly into the

like we need to get these people killed this is in some ways the most horrifying incident like this because this is the first time that the reaction widely on the right has been either this was a good thing or this was this this obviously was going to happen because gay people are evil and are grooming children. So violence has to happen against them. And like that is that was that's such a popular sentiment on the right in the aftermath of the shooting, whether it's whether it's implied and whispered or whether it's just said completely outright. Like it was a very clear consensus that this is what the Republican reaction was going to be. And anyone farther right of the Republicans, like it, it wasn't, it wasn't even just like a Nazi talking point. It was just like regular Republicans in office were talking about this, this style of rhetoric in response to the shooting.

And for that reason, it's kind of the most horrifying instant we've had. For that reason, it's kind of the most horrifying incident we've had. Because, you know, like in the aftermath of like the Pulse shooting, we did not have rhetoric like this mainstreamed in the way that it is happening for the Club Q shooting. It was a very, very different response to the Pulse shooting. Also probably because the shooter there wasn't white. Yeah, there was no like ISIS connection. Yeah, they'd they'll be like no the problem here was immigration right and no for this like he's like he is obviously a white dude um his lawyers are pulling bullshit to get his hate crime charges pulled but like it's obviously it's it's obviously this white guy and the the right's response is yeah he was

probably justified in doing what he did. Yeah. I mean, I, I feel like they're setting him up to be the next Kyle Rittenhouse where like, he's just going to become like this kid celebrity that profits off of killing people.

I don't know if we're there yet. Yeah. Partly because he got the shit kicked out of him. Um, but I think. Not by police. No, not by police,

by a trans lady and a. Yeah. Better dad. I think you've made a not by police By a trans lady And a Yeah I think you've made A good point there That like They did get away With some shit

With Kyle Rittenhouse That like I think they would not Have pulled even Five years before that Like I think You wouldn't have found In 2015

People being like Yeah he shot people In the street And this is good Fuck them And it is like The slippery slope Fallacy isn't always a fallacy but like you know once you start there i don't think it's a massive leap to being like

yeah this kid shot queer people in a nightclub and that's what they had coming like even even if they don't make him a hero like i do think that that like the overton window moved with rittenhouse yeah and it's moving again with this little fucker yeah I think he's slightly too toxic to go through that same celebrity status that Rittenhouse is he also can't speak I think he's been like in his court appearances

he's like not capable of saying that he's beaten to shit which is what you get the thing that scares me as like a potential written house event but uh kind of in the in the anti-queer mass shooter vibe is like you have some father or something who's separated from the kid and their other parent takes them to a drag queen event and dad shows up and starts shooting and like that's a thing that's a lot easier to get the right to pile on yeah that's that's the instance where that

person now becomes a cultural figure in a way that's more similar to what has happened with written house um and that just is like the hell scenario and i i think the other important thing here is like they're deliberately trying to incite this like this is this is deliberately like and this there was an interesting thing like, they're deliberately trying to incite this. Like this is, this is deliberately. And like, and this, there was an interesting thing. Like Nick Fuentes had this interview. And I mean, this is partially just,

this is just who fucking Nick Fuentes is. We had this thing about after the election where he was like, well, I'm like, we, we, we, we,

we, we, we, we, we, we can't, we can't take power via like, like we,

we, we can't actually get our agenda by voting. We have to do it by like theocratic fascism. Right. And, and, and I, you know,

okay. So obviously this is Nick Fuentes, but I think this is nick fuentes but i i think this is part of what's happening right now which is that the reason that they're doing this right the the reason that right now the thing they're trying to do is incite a genocide is because they're fucking losing every they know it right every single day church attendance drops it's been dropping for fucking 20 years it's never coming back like 9-11 didn't do Trump didn't do it. Nothing, nothing is ever going to bring people back to these churches. Like, unless maybe they solve their sexual assault problem, but that's not like they

structurally can't do that. Right. So, you know, every single day, religiosity drops in this country, every single, like every single day, very slowly. And we have been doing this roughly for about 15 years now we are winning. And this is what they're fucking terrified of, right? They have to move right now, like exactly in this moment is the moment they could exterminate us. If they wait any longer, they're fucked because they're, you know, the base for this kind of sort of like, like this specific kind of Christian fascism isn't going to be there. Like there will be other fascisms, but, you know, every, every, every single day that they fucking wait, like another person leaves the church. And so, you know, like right now in, in, you know, and they, they, they can't do it electorally. Right.

We just saw that they got fucking destroyed trying to lean into the shit because, and then this is the other thing, right? Like the other thing that's been happening since the two thousands. And this is the thing that is very different about this moment than any other moment that has happened in us history is that the vast, majority of people are are pro crew whites are pro lgbtq are pro gay marriage gay marriage polls consistently at about 70 percent right and even with this shit that that hasn't moved the needle on it right they know that they they have to right now right they have to fucking kill us all they have left is yeah this is all they have left they have they have no direct action basically like it's like yeah they see no other viable way to mainstream

this and that's why we have hours after the shooting lips of tiktok posting about uh queer events in colorado because they're they're trying to get this thing to happen they're trying to do more trying to press the attack. Yeah, but I think this is, like, on the other hand, like, this is a sign of their weakness, right? And, like, again, like, the number, the physical number of people who are pushing this shit is not that large, right? And, you know, again, like, this is, you know,

I've talked a lot about how sort of the silent majority in this country doesn't fucking agree with this shit. And, like, there literally are not that fucking many of them. We can stop them. Yeah, this is an actual thing. Like, you know, like there's a limit to which we can even sort of talk about this. But like, OK, we've been doing community self-defense like as as sort of like the big principle of the left since the Trump era. We have reached a point where like, know we can defend ourselves but if we look if if we're limited to just defending

ourselves they're going to kill a bunch of us first and that means that we like we actually have to start taking the fight to these media platforms right we have to start taking the fight specifically trying to get these people fucking off air and then you know failing that like fucking showing up and like blowing a fucking air horn in chaya reichek's like ear every single time she leaves her house right because all of all of these people fucking their entire lives depend on our labor right every single fucking uber they take every single meal they eat is all prepared by us and you know we can fucking find them and we can we can make their lives fucking hell if this is what they're going to do to us. Welcome, I'm Danny Thrill. Won't you join me at the fire and dare enter?

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Listen to Black Lit on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Garrison, do you want to talk about Focus on the Family at all? And Colorado Springs? Oh yeah, there was. Speaking of the kind of direct action Chris was talking about,

showing up where these people are and making it very clear that they don't get to pretend anymore to not be complicit in in murder um that that's a story yeah some some people uh did did show up at the colorado springs focus on the family headquarters um did a did a graffiti left some left left some messages out front and posted a communique of sorts. I think they called them demonic, which is pretty funny. If I'm remembering the message written thing right. Yeah, that is a weird place.

It talked about how Satan can disguise himself as an angel of light. Oh, yeah, yes. That's talking about the types of self-righteousness that these Christian fascist groups put on, but in effect, they're all kind of murderous snakes. That was people trying to use the Bible against these guys, which is funny in an ironic way, and I don't think they actually care, because they don't actually way and I don't think they actually care

because they don't know I don't think they actually care what the Bible said no they don't give a shit about what the Bible says they give a shit about yeah it but that's you know what showing up and doing doing a little thing outside outside their headquarters is definitely a good first step yes when me and James went there you know like in terms of, this is just an interesting, an interesting comment, like police did not help at the club Q shooting at all. They came afterwards and they held and they, they, you know, as, as they usually do, they'll, they'll, they arrest the person who, who, who helped, who helped stop the mass shooting. When me and James went to the Focus on the Family headquarters last summer,

there was a Colorado police officer inside the building the entire time. Constantly there. Mostly watching me because I was the obvious outcast inside there. But police are stationed at Focus on the Family all the time 24 7 uh to make sure nothing bad happens there uh but they're not gonna do shit to help queer people getting murdered but they're gonna stay they're gonna have a police car outside of the focus in the family building and have have an officer inside uh all the time because that's what the police actually do yeah i mean it's like...

It is increasingly obvious, if you've been paying any attention in the last decade, the only consequences that exist in this world is us. And, you know, it is in our hands to decide what the consequences for these people fucking attempting to incite a genocide are. All right. That's gonna do it for us here. It could happen here.

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Hi, I'm Ed Zitron, host of the Better Offline podcast, and we're kicking off our second season digging into Tex Elite and how they've turned Silicon Valley into a playground for billionaires. From the chaotic world of generative AI to the destruction of Google search, Better Offline is your unvarnished and at times unhinged look at the underbelly of tech brought to you by an industry veteran with nothing to lose.

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