It Could Happen Here - The First Anti-AI Firebombing

Episode Date: April 22, 2026

Garrison and Robert talk about Daniel Moreno-Gama, the 20 year old charged with attempting to kill OpenAI CEO Sam Altman. We discuss how he became an AI doomer, his belief that artificial superintelligence will wipe out humanity, and his Substack promoting IQ nationalism.  Sources: https://www.justice.gov/opa/media/1435876/dl https://sfdistrictattorney.org/texas-man-charged-with-two-counts-of-attempted-murder-and-multiple-other-felonies-in-connection-to-incendiary-destructive-device-thrown-at-russian-hill-residence/ https://x.com/mehran__jalali/status/2042755218819961048?s=20  https://morenogama.substack.com/p/ai-existential-risk-is-real https://www.businessinsider.com/sam-altman-molotov-attack-suspect-daniel-moreno-gama-houston-2026-4 https://sfstandard.com/2026/04/12/sam-altman-s-home-targeted-second-attack/  https://www.wdsu.com/article/atf-suspected-molotov-cocktail-starts-fire-tesla-new-orleans-service-center/71025308?utm_campaign=snd-autopilot  https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/altman-sf-attack-crisis-parents-22208428.php https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/sam-altmans-attacker-in-his-own-words/id1839942885?i=1000761713169See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Just wanted to be extra clear. Extra clear. No, no, the cool zone just relating to, you know, the state of American society and where it's going. Yes. But as is typical of these sorts of events, the reality and motivations of attacks like these may not be as like clear cut as Lee epic-based praxis as one might want to imagine. Yeah, this is not a gimley situation, you know, it's weirder than that and stupider. It is weirder. And this episode we're going to talk about the Sam Altman attacker, who is a lot

weirder than what you might have expected with a philosophical worldview downstream from the original inspirations behind the Zizians and even the intellectual interests of Luigi Mangione to a certain extent. Ah, God, yes, that's right. Our dear sweet friends, the rationalists. Ah, man. The alleged Altman attacker was a college student from the Houston area, whose interest in the risks of AGI, artificial general intelligence, turned into an obsession, which earlier this year

turned self-destructive. But let's go through the actual events that happened in San Francisco a few weeks ago. At around 3.30 a.m. on April 10th, a 20-year-old college student named Daniel Moran O'Gama allegedly threw a Molotov cocktail toward the home of OpenAI CEO Sam Altman, hitting the top of the security gate on the driveway leading to Altman's residence. Moranogama did not get past this security gate. About an hour and a half later, though, Moranogama showed up outside the San Francisco headquarters of OpenAI and tried to use a chair to break into the building through the glass doors.

He was stopped by security personnel and allegedly told them that he came to the headquarters to burn it down and kill everyone inside. according to the federal affidavit. When he was arrested, officers allegedly recovered, incendiary devices, a jug of kerosene, and a blue lighter, as well as what the FBI has described as an anti-AI document. Mm-hmm. Okay. We currently do not have a copy of this document.

It's only described in the criminal complaint, but this looks like it was a three-part manifesto allegedly authored by Moranagama, and the first part was titled, Your Last Warning. In which he states, he, quote, killed slash attempted to kill, Sam Altman. And also writing, quote, if I'm going to advocate for others to kill and commit crimes, then I must lead by example and show that I am fully sincere in my message, unquote. The document then lists the names and addresses of various investors, board members,

and executives of AI companies as a sort of target list. The second part of the document was titled, Some More Words on the Matter of Our Impending Extinction. Great. And this section discussed the purported risk that AI poses to humanity, and we'll get into some of those beliefs a little later on. But the third part of this three-part anti-AIA document was a letter addressed to Altman, quote,

If You Make It, and reads in part, If by some miracle you live, then I would take this as a sign from the divine, to redeem yourself, unquote. Now, like I said, we do not have a copy of this manifesto in full, though the affidavit says that Maranagama appears to have emailed similar versions of this document to people at his former college in Texas. But as of Monday 420, this document is still not online. But like a lot of zoomers, we do have an online footprint made up of posts from Instagram, Discord, a substack blog, and even a podcast interview, where Maranagama discusses his anti-AI views.

It's always sad when something terrible happens to a fellow podcaster. You know, I just, I have a broad and deep pan podcaster solidarity. Class solidarity, yeah. All podcasters are good. All of them. Every last one of them. famously no wrongdoing has ever come behind the microphone of a podcaster. No, no, no.

It's a special place. Now, back in January, back when Muranagamba was just 19, journalists found him through some of his posts on an anti-AI discord server, and he was asked to be interviewed for this podcast about AI called The Last Invention. Our colleague Ed Zittron was also interviewed for this podcast, actually. Now, he was interviewed because of his posts weighing the possibility of using violence to stop the development of AI. Now, in this interview, he says,

he grew up in the suburbs his whole life and, quote, grew up quite close to the internet. And claims that he's been online every day starting at nine years old. Ronogam explained how his political worldview had largely been shaped by YouTube, specifically debate videos on YouTube, like Ben Shapiro style. And these sorts of debate videos are what originally exposed him to views critical of AI. He says he first heard about AI, though, when Chad Giac, GPT came out when he was a sophomore in high school and first thought it was, quote, the greatest

thing on earth because it would allow him to cheat on school, essentially. But after watching videos debating the risks of AI and the possibility of advanced general intelligence, artificial general intelligence, and the potential threat posed by this artificial superintelligence, Moranagama's views started to sour on AI. At first, he was a bit skeptical of these AI-critical debates, but eventually became convinced of the AI Dumer arguments and became an accolate himself. He started arguing in YouTube comments and talking with friends and family about the danger of AI. He describes himself getting annoying and, quote, a bit autistic about this, leading to his mom suggesting he joined an advocacy organization. He joined this group called Pause AI in 2024,

which is an AI safety advocacy group that organized. is online and as well as some in-person protests. And he was also part of a Discord server called Stop AI. His username on both Discord and Instagram was Butlerian underscore Jihadist, in reference to the crusade against AI in the Dune novels. Yeah. On Instagram, his account had a collection of Instagram stories saved

about the threat of AI, including a meme about living in a Venn diagram of the Matrix, Terminator, and idiocracy. One of these Instagram stories was a picture of a hockey stick graph showing the length of coding tasks that AI can do

and how that's increasing with the caption, quote, if we do nothing very soon, we will die, I'm sure of that, unquote. Another story contains

screenshots of articles, posts, and studies proclaiming that artificial general intelligence or the quote-unquote singularity is already here. Captioned, Being Right All the Time Fucking Sucks when it's about the worst things imaginable, unquote. Yeah.

So if his concerns about AI started around summer of 2024, by the end of 2025, those concerns grew existential and he started spiraling. Yeah. Yeah. There's a post he made on the pause AI Discord from November 6th, 2025, writing, quote, we owe it to everyone who came before us and to ourselves and to everyone we know and love and everyone who might exist someday to be stronger than that and at least die fighting if it comes to that unquote. A few weeks later he wrote quote, we are close to midnight, it's time to actually act. To this a moderator on the server replied, advocating violence in any form is grounds for a ban.

this all seems like a pretty natural progression if you're following like the kind of things that the less wrong crowd, which the website run by a guy named a Leisure Yadkowski, who is like the patron saint of the rationalists, a huge chunk of which have become like AI doomers. Like a Leezer's book that came out a year or two ago is called If We Build It Everyone Dies or something like that. Yeah. And I'm surprised more of them haven't so far. Like I think it probably talks to just people not. actually believing it as much as they claim to, like, online. But, like, if someone truly believes the stuff that crowd is saying about how, like, basically the creation of an evil God is inevitable that will seek to purge the world of humankind, like, of course you do this. It's a really natural progression. Like, unfortunately, what you have to pay that with is, like, if you believe all of the hype about AI, yeah, right? If you believe that AGI is imminent, that it's on the

way, like if you are like me and I don't believe we're anywhere close to AGI, if that's even possible, then yeah, you could believe the stuff the rationalists believe and not think that you need to take immediate destructive action. But if you literally believe that these companies are on the hinge of birthing an evil God, what else is there to do? Yeah, and that's the exact thing that Maranagama ends up writing about on his substack. Yeah. And this is the fullest picture we half of his views is from the substack because we don't have this manifesto, but he did write at length about AI, and he's writing about a lot of the stuff that you're talking about here. And we'll discuss that writing more after this ad break. Canadian women are looking for more. More to themselves,

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explaining his anti-AI views, comes from a post on his substack blog, dated January 6th, 2026. this article outlines his belief that AI poses a quote-unquote existential risk to humanity. And I think this essay was the first thing I saw that really demonstrated that his opposition to AI is not like based on fears of AI disrupting the economy, contributing to a loss of jobs or, you know, risking like labor rights for workers, but the belief that AI will become like a superior race and wipe out or enslave humanity. That is the standpoint that, that, is the standpoint that,

Maranagama is coming from. Gotcha. The belief that AI will quote unquote lead to human extinction, he says is based on two ideas. The first being the rapid progress in artificial intelligence, the rapid technological development that we've seen the past few years and continuing right now. For evidence to this claim, he references claims from AI companies themselves that fully automated AI researchers at like an intern level are coming soon, including claims from the Guy Anthropic, who says that he expects these models by 2026 or 27, saying, quote,

the capabilities of AI systems will be best thought of as akin to an entirely new state populated by highly intelligent people appearing on the global stage, a country of geniuses in a data center, unquote. Yes, a whole country worth of geniuses. All living in your computer. Cool. What about like school shooters and stuff? Like, what about a country full of like psych?

Like, what are the, any, any group of geniuses is going to have like some genius pedophiles. And like, right? Like, if they're actually genius, that does imply the capacity for like various different like illnesses and quirks that cause all sorts of wild behavior. year. One would assume, unless you think that AI is immune to that, but then could it really be intelligent? Yeah, I mean, this is that, a version of that idea is kind of what Murano-Ogama believes is like, these things, if real and do become, you know, super intelligent, then they might not really have the best interests of humanity. Right. Because they will be interested in self-preservation, which is just part, part of like how he gets to this idea that it is an existential

threat is by using all of this kind of marketing hype. Yeah. That is being pushed out by AI companies. Well, yeah, that's the thing. thing. Like, that is a logical thing you could infer from the shit being said by Sam Altman and his crew, right? Yeah, and others, like, like, like, Dario Amodi at Anthropic and Elon Musk saying that the AGI is maybe already here or that the next GROC model will be AGI. These are all things that Maranagan was referencing, like on Instagram and, and in other places online. Now, the second reason that he believes that AI will usher in human extinction is because AI is not aligned with the interests of the people creating it or with best human interests in general.

And for evidence, he refers to instances of AI models allegedly lying, cheating on tasks, or blackmailing their own creators, specifically in studies. He cites a 2025 anthropic study on agentic misalignment, which he characterizes as demonstrating that, quote, most of the current AI models are willing to blackmail and even kill people if it ensures their own survival, unquote. This may be the first terrorist attack I've heard of inspired by media created by the people they're attacking. Like, not media that was, like, designed to make them attack people

or, like, carry out acts, but specifically by the propaganda being put out by the companies that they're radicalized against. Yes. Like, that's very strange. The media put out to raise the stock price of a company. Radicalized a guy to take a shot. at Sam Altman's house. There's two people to throw a bomb or something. I forget which way it went,

but yeah. Yeah, first throwing this Molotov, then days later, two people fired shots. First was Molotov, right? No, I mean, it's interesting, right? Because, like, these studies are basically doing, like, linguistic exercises with these models and getting, you know, large language models to say or to threaten certain things for various reasons, usually, like, their own survival. right and these are kind of interesting studies that these companies are doing but they're doing with the intent of trying to align these models better that's that's why the study's on agentic misalignment because it's trying to tweak these things to be more friendly to consumers and like getting an lLM to say that it will kill or blackmail in order to ensure its own survival

is different from the LLM being able to do that right that is that is a big jump and there's there's not much currently that facilitates that job. Moranagama writes, quote, ignore for a second these models current limitations or questions on how truly intelligent or conscious these models may actually be. The truth is, all these nuances are completely irrelevant to my argument.

There are only two questions we should be concerned about at this moment. Is it willing to kill to preserve itself and is it capable of doing so? These signs indicate that AI is willing and becoming potentially capable of doing both of these things and that is all that matters, unquote.

That's really where this argument rests, is that even if these models aren't currently intelligent, even if they can't currently kill, the fact that they could in the future is enough to stop any further development of these models. Right. That's his argument. Okay. And he writes that AI will only become a larger threat,

the more we improve it, and that AI, quote, will graduate from an active threat to individuals to an existential threat to humanity. I estimate the probability of AI causing human extinction to be nearly certain, unquote. That's the thing, because like, there is a massive threat that the new,

what is it, mythos upgrade to Claude that's just about to come out. Like, yeah, actually does represent to individuals and to society, which is that it's going to supercharge fraud even more, which is already up by something like a trillion dollars a year and that ruins people's lives. Fride and cybersecurity.

Yeah, fraud, I mean, fraud often as a result of cybersecurity, of, like, its ability to penetrate. And that's really bad, and it doesn't imply the, like, skynet devastation of the entire world in its biosphere, because that would be stupid. There's no reason. And also that computers don't have access to it, the nuclear arsenal. But, like, AI absolutely will enable assholes

who want to scam a bunch of people out of their money to do that better. Like, that's a problem. We should probably stop that. He writes that, quote, We are dead if we do not act now. So what does acting now entail? For starters, stopping all construction of new data centers,

these are the brains of these models dictating their physical limitations. Second, stopping all research and beginning downscaling of these data centers, closing them down while still keeping them monitored, unquote. He also proposed.

striking a deal with China to, quote, stop the AI race, and to create international treaties akin to Cold War Nuclear Weapons Treaties or Post-Cold War Treaties. And finally, he advocated that people will need to take strategic action, which could include sharing information about AI, campaigning, protesting, saying, quote, although doing nothing is akin to suicide and a disgusting amount of negligence. in that podcast interview from around the same time this AI article was published

this is January 2026th Moranagama said in that interview quote, before we even think about violence we need to exhaust all our peaceful means first unquote which he says includes protesting and sharing information but the hosts asked him

about posts he had already made about quote unquote Luigiing CEOs and he says that he didn't really mean that as a threat, that it was more rhetoric, it was hyperbole, and answered no to a question on if it would be wise to try to kill Sam Altman, saying, quote, one person is not going to do that much of a dent. I understand the frustration with a person that might advocate for that, but it is not practical, it's not worth it. It's almost all risk, no reward. People may feel that way, but not too many

people would do it, unquote. Wow. Okay, man. Great. I mean, that's, yeah. Though when asked if we will continue to see AI development going in the direction that it's moving now, and if so, if he believes that we have to stop the extinction of the human race, by whatever means necessary, Maranagama just replied, I'll say no comment. Okay, man. Well, I mean, yeah. later saying that he would quote only advocate for violence as the final solution and that he

later realized that what he said had tried to de-emphasize the final solution part but great guy that is kind of his ultimate sentiment is around this time he was considering violence he was toying with advocating for it publicly on discord and you know in this in this podcast but still still kind of had some like reins on that yeah but it was something in his mind as a sort of like final solution to this problem. This is why it's so fucking irresponsible to push these ridiculous claims about like the power of this technology and what it's going to be able to do and how smart it's going to be. And in part because like it makes it hard to actually look objectively at the situation.

And if Muranagama had looked at what's actually been happening with data centers, he would see that like more than half of the recently announced projects have been like either stalled or halted, and there's been tremendous success on the local level in, like, counties and in most recently, this entire state of Maine passing laws against the construction of data centers. Like, yeah, there's actually been a lot of success in fighting the building of new data centers. If someone wanted to have a positive impact on this, there's a lot of room right now to make that fight even more effective as opposed to doing like stupid bullshit that you would only

want to do if you had convinced yourself that we were like literally moments away from judgment day. And he used to be involved in this sort of action and this sort of organizing like around that kind of stuff when he was when he was doing stuff with pause AI. Yeah. But it was really in the past few months where he started to like spiral in this like in this very like dumer direction. Like you know, he was already very critical and very dumer about about what AI could do. But the sort of intense existential like immediate existential threat that that's a very critical. And that's a very doomer about about what AI could do. But the sort of intense existential, like like immediate existential threat that that opposed. It's something that he was really developing at the end of last year and the start of this year. And, you know, this is in part because of the sort of environment

that he was immersed in. Yeah. And we'll talk more about that environment after this ad break. Canadian women are looking for more. More to themselves, their businesses, their elected leaders, and the world are out of them. And that's why we're thrilled to introduce the Honest Talk podcast. I'm Jennifer Stewart. And I'm Catherine Clark. And in this podcast, We interview Canada's most inspiring women. Entrepreneurs, artists, athletes, politicians, and newsmakers, all at different stages of their journey. So if you're looking to connect, then we hope you'll join us.

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I actually thought it was. I got that wrong. Listen to the Nick Dick and Poll show on the IHeart Radio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Okay, we are back. Maranagama had a bunch of other writing on his substack, which gives us a bit of a closer look at his political. and the sort of information ecosystem that he exists in beyond just the AI question. In this AI article that he wrote or published in January, he recommended that people read Eliezer Yutkowski's book. If anyone builds it, everyone dies. Mm-hmm. Thanks, Eliezer.

Do you want to, like, I guess briefly give some background on, like, who this guy is? Well, he wrote a rationalist Harry Potter. Like, he's the guy who started a website called Less Wrong. Yeah. which was about basically like logic puzzles and trying to like optimize your thinking and your responses to behavior with like Bayesian analysis. Yes. And he's kind of branded himself as an AI expert. He's not like a coder or anything and he's not like an expert on machine learning.

He doesn't have any qualifications. But he's like an expert on like, again, game theorying how an AI would have, super intelligent AI would have to act. And he generally makes very dire conclusions that are all pretty much based in like Terminator or Horizon Zero Dawn, if you want my honest opinion of Elisa Yankowski. Yeah, yeah. And his irresponsibility is largely down to him being a dummy.

And he's definitely part of what radicalized this guy. But the fact that you have Open AI and Anthropic and a number of other people, like a lot of like folks like fucking Elon Musk, but also just a lot of like popular public intellectuals, quote unquote, and their podcast and shit, talking about all this like, Yep, we're moments away from super intelligent AI that's going to be able to do everything. Everyone's losing their jobs. None of it's like, we won't need people doing anything.

If that weren't all over the fucking place, Elyzer would sound a lot less convincing. Sure. No, I mean, and like the media environment around, or like the, you know, the sort of online communities around the Ratchelists are interesting because you have a lot of them who are AI Dumer's like, like Yudkowski, but a lot of them are also AI accelerationists, right? A lot of the sort of west coast, you know, parts of the zizzians were kind of like this. Yeah, there was a splinter, yeah. Yeah, there's this kind of splintering around people who maybe even believe some of the, you know, existential claims around AI, but believe that developing it is then the best way to kind of get out of that crisis.

And this creates an interesting dynamic among, you know, rooms full of these rationalists or post-rationalists. And in that podcast interview, Moronogama says that it was videos of Yudkowski, debate videos on YouTube that originally exposed him to his work. And on other posts on his substack, Uronogama also mentions Yudkowski's work. As a part of Maranagama's like other interests, which contain writing on pseudo-spiritual philosophy, he writes about, quote, the ultimate tree of reality or the tree of ultimate reality, the aborition of man. and genealogy of being and the warrior and the martyr. And on February 28th, 2026, he posted, quote, an analysis of political extremes, which goes over some of his political philosophy,

which relates to like rationalist arguments or some rationalist arguments around like IQ. In this essay, Muranagama primarily described himself as a consequentialist and critiqued leftism for being trapped in an idealized world, like a, quote, schizophrenic patient who attempts the same zealous plots over and over again

without hesitation. This essay defends discrimination as a justified means of reacting to inequalities and claims that such statements are only controversial because of a, quote, natural emotional resistance

to intrinsic judgment, unquote, which he says has nothing to do with the factual truth of certain claims, like, quote, East Asian people are on average, more intelligent than black people, unquote. Okay. Mm-hmm. Now, Moranagama argues that the problem with right-wingism, as he puts it, is that it has no boundary.

Its constant scaling and outward expansion inevitably leads to self-consuming defeat. Quote, it goes from being about preserving the best of human qualities to being deeply anti-human and producing zero winners, unquote. This sort of refers to Carl Schmit's fascist writing on internal conflict being externalized by the establishment of a border which expands to push out an increasing number of enemy groups. Instead, Maranagama proposes what he calls a sustainable form of rightist discrimination by establishing a sedentary floor for movements slash radical policy suggestions instead of an always rising idealistic ceiling. So, for example, instead of deciding that a certain IQ score should be required to vote,

he advocates setting a concrete, unchangeable floor by, quote, limiting voting. to certain people who pass critical thinking and civics tests, unquote. Ah, mm-hmm. Yeah. Yes. So somehow determining a critical thinking and civics tests is less arbitrary and less prone to arbitrary changes than deciding a certain IQ score. I wonder what kind of critical thinking he's going to be interested in.

I wonder what kind of IQ, you know? Yeah. Well, yeah, these people always break down to the same thing. I mean, yeah, I mean, this essay in particular gets, gets really contradictory, a certain things, and then later on basically argue the opposite. It's very, it's very disordered thinking. I mean, this is, this is the work of like a 19-year-old who was in, like, a mental spiral, leading to him traveling across the country to firebomb Sam Altman's house.

Yeah. Like, this is not, is not the product of, like, you know, a logically ordered mine, despite how a rationalist might, you know, perceive themselves as such. Yep. Now, at the end of this essay, he advocates for, quote, ending mass migration and initiating mass deportations. He says that this is necessary because, quote, nations have a right to preserve their ethnic identity and low-skill immigration saturates the job markets of these countries, making jobs which could once earn a living wage become unlivable, increasing the amount of value-draining

people in society by both importing them and undercutting low-skilled natives. Generally, whiteness in these countries is a decent correlative to some of the things I value, unquote. Mm-hmm. Some of them, okay. Now, Moroogama isn't white, and he says that he opposes white supremacy, but he does this by saying, like, you know, it's not actually about whiteness. It's that whiteness correlates to certain things I value, like high IQ. And that, that's how he, tries to justify it in his head. And rather than establish an explicitly white supremacist state, something he claims to oppose as race is an imperfect metric to discriminate effectively based on traits, according to him, rather he advocates for, quote, the most effective type of discrimination,

evaluating the possibility of IQ slash merit-based nationalism, unquote. Basically, that's having a country where citizenship is determined by IQ. And again, this contradicts his previous claim where he advocates against requiring IQ to vote, instead having a critical thinking and civics test, but then advocates for a country which citizenship is determined by IQ, and usually citizenship is the factor that determines if someone can vote. So this is just one example of this sort of contradictory writing in this essay. Now, Maranagama writes that the only problem with this IQ nationalism

is that it would create a, quote, brain drain across the third world, leading to worsening conditions in third world countries and thus even more illegal immigration. Because people with high IQ is going to then be able to immigrate and gain citizenship to first world countries, right? In a United States where citizenship is determined by high IQ, then people who with people with high IQs from around the world would then all just move to the United States.

Of course. So to solve this problem, he says that he rejects, quote, quote, classical eugenics and extermination in favor of what he calls ethical eugenics in the third world. Oh, oh, ethical eugenics. Ah, good. I'm glad someone figured it out.

And this ethical eugenics is to promote, quote, IQ growth genetically, unquote. So the whole basis of this article is his belief that IQ is genetically determined, not determined by class. And he never interrogates this idea. All of the statements that he makes in this article, is based on the idea that IQ is genetically determined.

That it's not determined by education in class. It is primarily or almost solely genetically based, thus ethical eugenics to create high IQ babies, which he thinks will solve the problems of the world. Yeah. Yeah, we never tried that before, for sure. Like there haven't been generations of times in which that was attempted that all ended in disaster and mass death.

nah, they just didn't get it right because they didn't put ethical in front of it. No, those were classical eugenics Robert. They forgot to put ethical in front of it.

That was the big, ah, what a tragedy. They were one word away from greatness. So, yeah, that is, that is the other piece of writing that I think is worth expounding on

to get a more full sense of kind of where this guy's head is at, right? This is not a leftist Antifa Super Soldier firebombing Sam Altman's home. No. That isn't,

to say what happened isn't, isn't interesting. But I think, you know, if, like you said, you know, this is the first quasi-terrorist attack inspired by the sort of rhetoric that these companies are producing themselves to boost their own stock price. Yep. I mean, I literally just saw on Reddit earlier today. The title from the actual, like, post was CEOs make shocking predictions about AI. Huge job losses are coming soon. 20 to 30 percent, 50 percent unemployment within the next two to five years. And when you trace it back to its source, Dario Amadeh of Anthropic, just basically quoting some statistics he found from estimations by like Axios and Fox News.

Yeah. And talking on some fucking podcast, scaring the shit out of people. Like, it's, it's every day. Like, of course some people are going to react like this. Other reason I wanted to talk about this, the second half of this, this sort of IQ and, like, you know, rationalist stuff. Because this is just another instance of, you know, public acts of political violence, I think, done by people down.

stream from the rationalists. You know, Luigi is a part of this. The Zizians is also a part of this. It's like an extended network. This type of thought does keep producing acts of public violence like this, and that is an interesting thing to chart.

On April 14th, Moranagama's public defender said in court that he has a, quote, history of autism and mental health illness, and that his actions, quote, appear to have been driven by an acute mental health crisis. His parents released a statement that same Tuesday saying, quote,

Our son Daniel is a loving person who has been suffering recently from mental illness crisis. We have been trying our best to address these issues and get him effective treatment, and we are very concerned for his well-being. Unquote. He currently is facing federal and state charges, including attempted murder. That is all I have on this for now. Well, I mean, this isn't going to stop. happening like these won't be the last attacks like this uh i haven't seen a big push in the media or from

like elected leaders to talk about like anti-a-i sentiment as like a terrorist threat yet yeah that hasn't really seemed to pick up yet and i haven't seen this yet be blamed on like leftist stuff i have seen it been blamed on like the anti-a-i thing yeah uh which i you know it is part of like some of the anti-a-i movement are people who literally believe it's like a demon god that's going to destroy things. But I'm interested as there are more of these, as, you know, this kind of stuff continues to happen. What form that takes and like how it actually looks when this was this starts to hit politics in a big way. Yeah, US attorney Craig Mazakian said referring to this case that they are going to treat it as an act of domestic terrorism.

Yeah, I mean, it is. Like, it is. He was trying to do terrorism. Like, his goal specifically was to cause changes in policy. Yeah, but you're right. Like, I haven't seen them refer to this from the sort of political lens. Like, there's been statements from, you know, other U.S. government officials referring to that warehouse fire as, you know, being, being motivated by anti-capitalism and, like, threatening our way of life, threatening the capitalist way of life, which is how they referred to that warehouse fire in Ontario, California.

Right. I've not seen them specifically kind of lay out, like, any. anti-AI sentiments as a motivating factor of terrorism. Yeah. Though I'm sure they will quite soon. Right. Yeah. Between the shots fired at the home of that city councilman in the Midwest over his vote in

support of a data center. Over data centers. As we see more incidents kind of like that, as we see stuff like this, I think it's very likely that they will add anti-AA sentiment to the list of common recurring motivating factors of this sort of domestic violent extremism. Yep. All right. Bye, everybody.

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