It Could Happen Here - The Hacker Who Stole the No Fly List

Episode Date: January 26, 2023

We talk with Maia Arson Crimew about how she owned an airline so hard she found the No Fly List, the evolution of the anarchist hacktivism, and the movie HackersSee omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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and with with me to talk about this is maya arson crime you who is most recently famous as the person who owned an airline so hard they got a copy of the fucking no fly list which is yeah just just first day things yeah so maya how are you how are you doing being deluged with one trillion interview requests and um so yeah it's not my first time experiencing like a big news cycle but this is certainly the biggest one yet it's i'm surprised that this is bigger than the one i've had before with other stories yeah but i feel like becoming a trans femme meme at the same time as i have like a national security, uh, new cycle going on probably helped a bit. I'm, I'm,

I'm, I'm very happy for weed cat. Like that, that, that, that cat did like that. Every, every single other thing that has happened to weed cat is like done that

thing dirty, but I'm, I'm happy for you. Yeah. Yeah. We kind of, and I was just like a hacking icon and I'm so here for it. Did you see like, like, like just like, uh icon and i'm so here for it did you see like like like

just like uh like 15 minutes before we got on call there is now a like bingle meme from the scp foundation on their twitter they commissioned an artist to make a bingle meme like it has just turned into a thing now like that that's the why it's so good it's not even it's not even like the whole hacking story anymore it's just the fact that i have to go into a meme like how how yeah and especially that bingle turned into a meme because that started as a like discord in choke like that's all it was and now it's the name of this cat well okay so we should explain for for people for people who don't know what this cat is. This is the Pokemon Sprigoroid. Is it Sprigorado?

How do you... Sprigatito, I think. Yeah, Sprigatito. I don't know how to properly pronounce it. Yeah, neither do I. It's Italian. I'm under no obligation to pronounce an Italian-sounding thing correctly. It's fine.

Yeah. It's the Wheat Cat. Like, Wheat Cat and Bingle are now the only two acceptable names for this yeah yeah but in the blog where you went through and talked about how you got the no-fly list by owning this thing

you posted a picture of this little boy yeah I did actually like take that picture while I was like hacking this stuff and like talking in some like small friends discord about it And I just posted that together with like the phrase this aviation should get serious That's why that's also in the blog I expected that to become the meme that blows up that this aviation should be get serious because that's just so stupid

Yeah But I guess bingo it is and that's funny because yeah it was just an in-joke nonsense word and now the entire world knows about it and it's like a trans femme thing it rules it rules yeah so okay I guess we should talk about

what actually you did so I am not a very technical person I'm out here defying trans girl stereotypes by sucking ass at coding. So my understanding of what happened is you were browsing a list of servers that are connected to the Internet that you can use through sort of like various search engines that do this. And you stumbled upon the server that belongs to Commute Air. And then they just like had a bunch of hard coded privileges there and like exactly it's still it's still funny to me how like i realized what it

was because i saw like the word acres and stuff and i was like wait that that reminds me of like mentor pilot youtube videos because of course i'm an autistic trans femme and binge watch mentor pilot while eating dinner. So that is the only reason I clocked it as like an aviation thing and as something I should dig into deeper, because like you can imagine like while I'm going through these search results, I'm looking at like hundreds of servers in a day and most of the stuff I decide is boring or it was too easy to hack. so I'm not going further because I have ADHD. So yeah, and in this case I was like, wait, that's an aviation word. I've heard that before.

So I digged a little deeper and there were just passwords there. And then like two minutes after I found that server, I was looking at like ACARS messages, as in like messaging between ground stations and airplanes. And I was just like, yeah, this is a story and started tweeting about it, looking for journalists to work with. Because with stories like this, I like to work with journalists from the very start because I want to make sure it doesn't get wiped under the rug when I report it to a company.

make sure it doesn't get wiped under the rug when i report it to a company so i make sure that when i do reach out and get things fixed i reach out via journalists so that the companies know yeah this is being reported on so they can't be like yeah we will fix it under the condition that you never tell anyone about our bad security because like the whole point of what i'm doing is exposing like security issues uh but also exposing yeah with a political background at the end of the day. Yeah, and I guess another thing, I don't know how many people are aware of this, but another thing that has happened with people who have tried to go to companies and been like, hey, here's a security thing, is the company tries to go after them them criminally like immediately which sucks ass and is the worst yeah so so so from that standpoint it doesn't even matter if i like do it like this or actually report it to them but this way i get to talk about it publicly and like that's important not because i'm on cloud like i i i don't mind the cloud but like yeah yeah and so okay so

i i there's there's been a lot of focus on the fact that you found the no fly list on there which is very funny but okay why like okay one of the things i'm trying to figure out why was there why were there just messages from, like, ground crews to airplanes just, like, sitting around on this random server that's just, like, exposed to the internet? Right. So the messages weren't directly on that server, but, like, it's a server where they, like, for testing purposes,

like, I don't know how much I can understand, really, but where they, like they test the software automatically. And so there is all... And because of how they configured the server, I could just have access to all the source code, which included lots of passwords, for example, for the server that then had the ACARS messages on it.

Okay. But yeah, or access credentials for APIs that would have allowed me to update the crew on a flight. Jesus Christ, yeah. Which, like, if you think about it, that's almost the bigger story. Yeah. Like, at least theoretically,

could have been able to change crews. Because, like, that's the real terrorism risk. Yeah, like... If I'm just allowed to spell it out like that like that that's the dream of any yeah yeah like i mean you know you know like i'm one of the things you were talking about when when you're writing about this was that like journalists thought that you were the one who had like caused all of the flight delays i was like no that was just their computer breaking no but yeah like that was just funny because i didn't even know the thing

with yes yeah with the faa happened but i was like tweeting about oh i have a big aviation story any journalist interested it's like a security breach and people were like wait what did you do to the faa and i was like what faa oh so that happened like i am so not up to date on news anymore yeah i mean so for people who don't know what that story is so basically the the federal aviation administration had a computer problem was the very the very very short version they had a computer problem and this grounded like a shit ton of flights because the huge like computer bottlenecks where if we saw this over like like a like last month when there was that when all of those flights got down by Southwestern because their computer system just went down.

Right. Yeah. It's the same thing except US-wide. Yeah. But it's just funny because, yeah, I first found this server like exactly the day after. Like that was literally a day after the FAA incident. So people were rightly assuming that that was me which it obviously wasn't but like it would have been cool yeah but it's also like it

it is very disturbing to me that like this kind of stuff is just sitting there and like someone yeah could just like theoretically go in and screw with all of this stuff which is like and then also the fact that like there was just just all of the personal information of all of the pilots on there. Like, what the hell? Like, that is terrifying. Yeah, it is crazy how much stuff is just out there. And that's part of what I try to show with my work. It's just, yeah, there is so much stuff out there.

And it's just waiting to be found. And I both mean that in terms of like, yeah, you can find shit if you try to. But also in the sense of things are not secure. Like all the systems our entire lives depend on nowadays. None of those systems are really secure. They're entirely dependent on one system administrator who doesn't get paid enough. one system administrator who doesn't get paid enough. Our entire computer

systems depend on a bunch of furries being motivated enough to do their work. So basically, the moral of the story is pay furries well enough. Yeah. Yeah, and this probably took in everything that I was thinking about

when I was looking at this, which is like... You know, okay, so when I was looking at this, which is like, you know, okay. So like when I was like a teenager, like one of the things that I think I was the most wrong about that I believed was like I actually genuinely believed that like automating cars was a good idea because humans are really, really bad at driving. And then I had to learn to program and I had to like see scientist code and I had to – I open a program and there's a section of it that no one knows how it works and i look i look at the notes and the notes say i don't i i didn't write this i don't know how it works this was produced this was produced at 4 a.m on like like 700 milligrams of caffeine that's like yeah yeah oh on at least caffeine ifines yeah well these are these were astronomers so i i i think it was actually just a lot of caffeine and not amphetamines but yeah like you know and then i had the realization the the only single thing that we as humans are worse at than driving is coding exactly yeah we

are we are even worse at that and then the other thing we're also very bad at is labeling data which is like the whole thing machine learning is dependent on. Because the entire intelligence of an automotive car, like a self-driving car, is entirely dependent on how intelligent the underpaid workers in Kenya are that get paid like two bucks an hour to label things as car, human, and child, and then make moral decisions of whether or not those should get run over.

Yeah. One of my sort of political things that I'm coming to is I think the only people who should be allowed to do machine learning are astronomers, and no one else should be allowed to do it. And even they, because they have a legitimate reason, which is that they actually, A actually a they're doing a bunch of big data like most of astronomy is just big data analysis yeah and then b like the the analysis itself doesn't really hurt anyone uh you you could argue about where they're putting the telescopes but like you're not you're not like yeah just like anything that involves humans probably should not also involve AI in any way. Yeah, terrible idea.

But yeah, I guess, okay, circling back around to the point I was going to make and then got distracted talking about AI because such is the world. Yeah, so, you know, it's really remarkable to me, like, how little technical skill you need to just like absolutely own enormous corporations and governments yeah and you know but but the other thing that that struck me about this that i've been thinking about for a while is that like okay on the one hand you have how easy hacking is like like this server stuff's like easier than the stuff that i remember back in the day which was a lot of like people like you you someone somewhere long ago in a galaxy far far away wrote like a script and then you just copy and paste it into like every single text box on a web page and like that's i think like that's probably maybe like more hackery quote unquote

than just like looking through a list of servers but like even that is like the level of technical sophistication is so low or or you know know. Yeah, you don't need technical. Yeah. You just need to be stupid enough to pull it up. Yeah. But, you know, the thing that I realized about this, I was thinking about this, was like, on the one hand, the level of has been distributing digital technology which is sort of by apping it like by sorry which has been packing it into apps and these closed garden ecosystems and like putting uis in between you and like well like you and what's actually

happening to your computer has been you know it's been designed in a way to make it quote unquote consumer friendly but also it's been designed in a way such that like successive generations of computer users just have less and less knowledge of how their devices and technology actually work yeah that's like like there's that whole thing of like about how like younger kids

don't understand the concept of folders anymore because like that's completely abstracted away on like smartphones yeah and Chromebook in particular which I genuinely think we need to ban Chromebooks in schools like just just like for the sake of human yeah I forgot how big of a thing that is

yeah it's awful like oh god they're the worst yeah I don't know like at the end of today what I wanted to say earlier about like how easy it is to hack all the big corporations and stuff and it's just like the answer as to why is just capitalism it's cheaper not to give a shit about

cyber security it's cheaper to just pay when you get hacked than to secure your shit up front because the only people that will really suffer is your customers and your employees and they can forget your shareholders are gonna be

just fine. And you look at the way the regulatory structure works, it's like, okay, so what happens if you get in trouble for something like this? Well, the government takes a cut. That's it. Yeah. Yeah, that's it. It's literally, like, you can botch it getting hacked.

There is cyber insurance now. You can get insured against getting hacked. It's just capitalism at work. I feel like one of the things that journalists have sort of... I don't know. I understand why they focus on it, but I feel like there's a lot of focus in tech journalism and in journalism on the hacking stuff

in the really big, sophisticated Stutnicks or uh what was the what was the more recent one i can't remember the name of it but like yeah like the the really sort of convoluted trawling program the things that like you know take nation state level resources and it's like well yeah you know this was always the thing with like the with like the nsa too where it's like well okay so the the the the on the one hand the nsa does have enough money to like spend like 50 million dollars factoring one number so they could break a bunch of encryption on the other hand like they can just force us companies yeah and also they force us companies to give them access and also like i don't know they can they can get most of this information because like some server

admin in like a farm in like the middle of rural Nebraska, like, misconfigured a file, like, misconfigured a server. So, like, you know, I... I don't know. That's also what I find funny about the things I find, because I, like, almost exclusively go for, like, the low-hanging fruit, because, like, why would I invest more effort

when I can get really big scoops like this? And also, sometimes I do kind of think about how, hey, you know, like maybe I just cut off access to the CIA. Maybe this was like how the CIA got this access. Maybe the NSA was here. Obviously, most likely not in most cases, but it's just a funny little thought of like,

who did I just cut access to by reporting this issue? I will say this, like, I can't imagine that there isn't someone at the NSA and there isn't someone at the CIA whose job it is to do exactly the same thing you do and scroll through your own server list every day. Absolutely. That's why by now I use Sumai for the search engines. There's Shodan, which is the famous US one, which is why I still always say I found it on Shodan, even though by now I use Sumai. Because Shodan has like half of like all US IPs censored and they have an artificial delay between finding the servers and showing them to you

and have really bad search. And I'm pretty sure it's just because at one point the US government got upset because they kept getting hacked. Yeah. And so, yeah, but like the Chinese are very willing to give me all the US IPs ever. They do censor a lot of Chinese IPs though, but like... I think a lot of that was...

So I was trying to figure out why that name was really familiar. But then I had this... I remembered that there was a story where some researcher did like almost the exact same thing you did to a Chinese security company and found out that they were doing, guess exactly the same shit the u.s government was doing which was using using a bunch of surveillance cameras to spy on muslims and it was like well this is great yeah it's it's always like like it's always appointing and doing the same thing

behind the scenes like yeah okay so we going to have to take an ad break. Yeah, but then once we return from capitalism, we will go back to opposing capitalism. Welcome to 2023. Welcome. I'm Danny Thrill. Won't you join me at the fire and dare enter? Nocturnum, Tales from the Shadows, presented by iHeart and Sonorum.

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I'm not saying you're gonna get 15% every single year, but if you ask for 10 to 15 and you end up getting eight, that is actually a true raise. Listen to this week's episode of Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. All right, and we're back. Yeah, so speaking of any capitalism that that was another thing i wanted to sort of talk about which is that okay so like long long long ago in a galaxy far far away little little little baby 15 year old mia was radicalized like back back back back when i was overthrowing trying to overthrow my first government it was um a lot a lot of it was being

in the same sphere as a lot of sort of anarchist hackers that were in the sort of like loose anonymous sphere but you know but by like 2015 2016 like that stuff was kind of falling apart like partially because of infighting partially because of fed infiltration partially because you know like everyone got arrested yeah yeah point all the big players have been arrested like three years prior yeah and, and the other thing that was going on too I think was like, Anonymous like, its politics were always really incoherent.

You had, I don't know, you had just like, the thing I remember was there was a big split between like basically the fascists and the anarchists between like, over Trump specifically. Yeah, I think the thing with anonymous is just like the way it started it started as just like a group of trolls yeah

unfortunately it was like well okay the pictures say like i mean it makes sense that um anonymous is is the way it is and has been the way it has been uh i think it's still like important that it exists and that it motivates people uh like i have been involved with anonymous before uh there's the one thing i can talk about with like operation myanmar where we did like support things um that was shortly before my indictment but yeah it's it's interesting like anonymous brings people together to do operations yeah and that and that's what they do, and they can do PR for stuff. Uh, yeah. I don't wanna, like,

talk down on them. Yeah, no, but I think, like, well, I think especially, especially, like, in, like, when I was getting involved in 2013, it was, like, like, it was, it was a lot different. Like, it was, you know, like, like, it was an F-ing. Yeah, it was, it was, it was both, like, a thing, and also, it wasn't just, like, like, it wasn't just that it was it was both like a thing and also it wasn't just

like like it wasn't just that it was sort of like okay we're like we're we're like trolling we're trolling a government by like taking down their web pages or whatever like they were actually sort of there was like there was real coordination between like people like you know revolutionaries on the ground in like egypt or in like brazil and stuff like that and that like that does still happen yeah that does still happen it's just less of a public thing like that's what we did in in in myanmar as well as where we did communications with people on the ground where we helped them communicate among each other where we helped them keep the internet up even when the government tried to turn it off which is really sick other fun other other fun shenanigans like that uh and also archival and

that like just in case some kids that does decide to do this literally every web page in the country which is mostly nonsensical but like yeah but i i do find it interesting how like yeah there's like the 2012 2013 generation that was mostly anonymous dominated and now we're in like this new generation where it's just small little groups yeah and i wanted to talk about that because it's much more decentralized i don't know i it's weird to talk about it because uh at the end of the day i inspired a lot of it which is really weird to say yeah it's so weird to say that i like but yeah i'm kind of part of what the revived activism and it sounds so so pretentious of me to just say that i like but yeah i'm kind of part of what the revived activism and it sounds so so pretentious of me to just say that myself but like yeah no it is kind of what happened in like

2019 2020 yeah and like that was interesting to me too because it was it was very like i don't know like the the 2012 stuff was also like it was very very i guess media centered in a way where it was it was about drawing like drawing masses of people into things and then using it to sort of get media attention using it to sort of like i don't know be be this sort of like online like also this sort of like online social movements in a way that i think is very different than the modern stuff so this is my conception of it though because i i've also been kind of like i don't know i i was off doing other stuff in 2019 that had nothing to do with this so yeah i'm curious well okay how do i put this

so i i i i'm curious a like how how you see the politics of these new groups, either sort of as different from what came before it? I think it's hard. For a lot of the groups, it's hard to see what their politics are. And some of them aren't even... There's things like Lapsus that aren't specifically doing hacktivism, but they're accidentally doing anti-corporate activism by just leaking everything.

That's like groups that are in the way that they operate are very clearly inspired by my work that I used to do. And they're just not very political per se. But I still call them hacktivists because even if it might not be their intention, they're doing activism and they're making corporations angry and wasting corporate resources and in my book that counts as like yeah activism

and the fact that they in a way fight for like freedom of information even if that might not be the goal uh yeah i don't know i feel like that is the main unifying factor now it's just a fight for information because like they're currently like the single biggest active hacktivist thing happening right now since like 2019 it's just leaking the whole leaktivism thing that happened before as well but like now that's like the main thing before it was often a lot like just ddosing and stuff but now we're so focused on like getting documents getting software getting uh files getting like proof that things happened getting fucking no fly list it's just it's just a very different environment where like the goals are probably about the same in a lot of ways at least for the people who do have an ideology. But, like, yeah, I feel like it's just much more focused on, like,

releasing information into the free, which I find really great. Like, that is kind of my big fight that I try to devote myself to. Welcome. I'm Danny Trejo. Won't you join me at the fire and dare enter? Nocturnum, Tales from the Shadows, presented by iHeart and Sonora. An anthology of modern day horror stories inspired by the legends of Latin America. From ghastly encounters with shapeshifters to bone-chilling brushes with supernatural creatures.

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Listen to this week's episode of Let's Talk Offline on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. Yeah, I wanted to ask also sort of just about your personal anarchism because i don't know i like talking about anarchism and yeah everyone has their own um i don't know it's it's a difficult question and i feel my answer to this question changes like every other day um i especially find it hard because like i am like doing work in very specific focused bits of like anarchist work and so i don't really want to lock myself into like some sorry so so it's it's like very fluid i'm just like obviously against states i'm like i don't know it's it's hard no no governments no shitty corporations and just like having fun with friends and being gay that is like this rules we take this this is a good

form of anarchism yeah i don't know just some form of like queer anarchism and yeah yeah being gay and doing crimes it's a it's a good it's a good thing i guess in a way like what kind of defines me and what keeps getting me into the spotlight is that i do just kind of have like a very strong moral compass and i go by that rather by what's legal or not legal or like sure i try to stay within some safe boundaries especially now post indictment given that there are definitely even more eyes on me now than before and this podcast

is definitely being played at some FBI oh yeah there's oh yeah so that's something to consider but like yeah I feel like I feel like that's kind of what I want to demonstrate is that like, if you have morals, you can't just stick by them. Like no one is stopping you from doing that. They might try to, but like, you can just stick with your morals.

Yeah, and I think it's worth mentioning, even like, you know, okay, like, a lot of people go to prison for doing stuff like this. Some of them didn't. Like, there's a, like, to the best of my knowledge, there is at least still one Lulzak guy who's just in the wind, who they never got. And, like, and Lulzak, like, they had a fed mole in the group, and one of these people

still got away. Fuck Sabu. Yeah, fuck him, by the way. Just to interject real quick, fuck Sabu. Yeah, fuck him, by the way. Just to interject real quick, fuck Sabu. So for people who don't know, Sabu's basically the guy that the feds flipped inside of Losec,

who got everyone sent to prison. Yeah, fuck him. I do have to say, I kind of get why he flipped. He, at that point, already had a family and stuff. I get that that is hard. But still, you gave up your friends yeah simply do not do that and like like i don't know and

the fact that he still like has some sort of image honestly i don't know that it's just it's just infosec community i guess it's i don't know it's it's interesting for sure but yeah I can't comment too much on my own case there are a lot of funny jokes to be made that I shouldn't the feds suck I'm just gonna say that

oh god it's been a bad week of feds in the US too honestly just one thing again about the TSA It's been a bad week of feds in the U.S. too. Like, yeah. Yeah. Honestly, just one thing again about the TSA.

I am so curious what's going to happen with the congressional inquiry. Yeah. I don't know if you saw that. Especially since, like, this means that the Republicans are going to be exposed to my blog post. Presumably. And I am so excited for all the slurs they can come up with uh it is going to be extremely funny i'm also very excited for like the turfs to be like this is terrorism see we've been right all along yeah yeah i have gotten that before i have gotten turf replies before uh on like articles about me where they were like, see, no, women don't

commit crimes, so this is clear proof. And it's just like, what are you talking about? This is my male genes coming out. It's also like, ma'am, you are British. Do you know what

people did so you have the right to vote? Come on. Yeah, like, that's the funny thing, is that they, at the same time, also, like, fetishized the whole suffragette thing. Yeah. I'm having no fucking clue what that movement was about.

Yeah, it's like, no suffragette would ever horsewhip Rishi Sunak. I mean, not suffragette, no TERF would ever horsewhip Rishi Sunak, unlike the suffragettes who yeah exactly I don't know it's silly I'm surprised how little harassment I've gotten on Twitter so far if we exclude the whole bi lesbian discourse

that happened yesterday I'm so sorry for restarting the discourse I think me talking about that single handedly restarted that discourse it just happens periodically like yeah yeah it's just funny because like i was just like yeah this is gonna get me some hate replies but like within five minutes i had 21 private quotes yeah i mean like my my i won't make an official statement on that which is that if you give a single shit

about people calling themselves bi lesbians like i please let me know so I can trade lives with you. Like, you seem to have, like, very few problems going on. I would love to, like, have grown up in the world where, like, that's, like, that's the thing that you think, like, matters. I don't know why. like matters i don't know i think it's i think it's funny how there's people who were like wanting to follow me wanting to interact with me uh as like an it it's uh theory and kitten uh who like does uh funny things to the u.s government but then they draw the line at at the specific sexuality yeah it's like really and like i i then made like a post where i was like sorry i deleted that i didn't i don't have the energy to deal with people getting so upset

over an innocent word and that has gotten so many many quote tweets being like yeah and that innocent word in question was bi lesbian as if i said like the n word or something like that was literally the kind of response i got and it's like, do you not have anything else to do in your day? Do you know how many people the cops killed last week? Can you please do something? Come on! Out of all the things that are happening here right now. Especially then when some of the people that come up with that are non-binary lesbians.

Which, if you know anything about this Puritan discourse like half of them would also like throw these under a pit because non-binary lesbians also can't exist and like it's just why are you why why are you fighting for the turfs like that that is my one single question i have to all the 14 year old queers on twitter.com also why did that discourse ever escape tumblr like that was enough because all the tumblr refugees came to twitter yeah but

they could have left the discourse there yeah but no the world I don't know twitter twitter in the last like like okay like twitter's discourse has never been good but like in the last couple of years it's just been getting steadily worse and it's

it's just the same it's not even that it's just bad discourse it's just the same discourse every week and I'm just tired of it and I guess now that I'm a big account I have to have an opinion on everything of it and I guess now that I'm a big account I have to have an opinion on everything yeah and also the fun part about being trans is everyone is like

like absolutely razor focused for like the exact one word that you say wrong so they can act that so they can like like legitimately quote-unquote be transphobic at you and it's like this is great like this is a great system that we've developed for yeah existing with each other we could simply not do this yeah you can just say like the fact that literally like i was like i'm gonna see what happens if i say bi lesbian on an

account with 24 000 followers and and the fact that it literally took seconds for people to tell me to tell all their mutuals to unfollow me because I'm highly problematic. It was quite interesting. And someone was just like, this has completely shattered my worldview. And I'm just like, sorry, if your worldview gets shattered by my sexuality, you have some soul seeking to do. Like, actually, like, huh. Like, I grew up. Like, for some people, me saying the phrase bi-lesbian was genuinely, like, my milkshake doc moment.

Yeah, it was like a second, what's it called? A second sexuality description has hit the towers. Like, it was yeah it was like 5am when I made that tweet it was just like I'm gonna get a little silly with it and I expected

a backlash but not that much it was just too much yeah like I know it's not like backlash that matters and I should just ignore I know it's not, like, backlash that matters, and I should just ignore it, but it's just, like, so overwhelming. Yeah, I guess. Do you have anything else that you want to say? I don't know.

I think that covers, like, most of the things I have to talk about. Cool. Yeah, just, like, be gay, do crime, hack the planet. Oh, my God. Genuinely, it is one of my favorite things in the world that they made the movie hackers and it was the worst depiction of hackers but then also yeah like like i i it was like so i didn't watch that i mean okay i watched it like not for the first time like it wasn't like like like i was i was like not that old when i watched it but it was after i like first ran into hackers and so it took me a while to figure out that like wait hold on no hack the planet is a thing that everyone says but that's actually because it's a

joke about hackers which i love see i still find it funny how hackers is a movie that got hacking culture completely wrong and changed it forever yeah because like because like there is i don't know if you've ever seen that but from like defcon from 1996 there's a page on the official defcon website talking about how bad hackers is and how it gets everything wrong and no one should watch this movie and now you look at this like 20 years later and that's just what hacking culture turned in yeah it's very funny the most incredible thing about hackers is that someone managed to get the queerest fucking movie ever made uh made by one of the biggest companies in hollywood

and also make it about hacking and like it's it's the best piece of cinema ever and i stand by this like it fucking sucks in a lot of ways yeah but it's just they just managed to make a movie where no one is cis somehow yeah it's pretty amazing i will say the the the the the two as Asian characters are kind of whack, but other than that, it's like, yeah, it's a... Like, it's a whack movie. Like, if you look at it objectively, it's a pretty bad movie. Yeah, like, there's, I know, there was, like, in a lot of ways, stuff from the 90s is absolutely terrible, but also, like, there was stuff you could just do in movies in the 90s that, like, you can't now. Yeah.

Like, like, okay. Well, like what my, my example of this is I may have said this on the podcast before, but like they, so they,

they, they, they, they did a like completely straight, like modern day live adaptation of, of Romeo and Juliet. That is like, it's Romeo and Juliet.

It's, it's exactly the lines in Shakespeare, but it's like with characters set in like the like modern times they're shooting guns each other but like what one of these happens in that is there's just like a black guy doing drag and it's just like a thing like nobody comments on it like it's just like a thing and he's having a good time and you could not like like people people people would show up to yeah like people which people like yeah like i won't be on tucker carlson like yeah like like people people yeah you people, like, yeah, like. I would be on Tucker Carlson, like.

Yeah, like, like, people, people, yeah, you'd have, like, mobs showing up in front of your house. Like, it's. Yeah. Yeah. Like, I don't know, like, yeah, if hackers came out now, we would have, like, Tucker Carlson complaining about the woke mob trying to turn kids into gay hacktivists. Yep. Like. Uh.

I don't know I love the movie so much not because it's good but because it's culturally important yes and yeah the characters are like great like they made everyone queer somehow and I'm still not sure whether that

was intentional or not I don't know I lean towards they don't know my i lean towards they didn't know what they were doing and that makes it even funnier yeah it makes it so much better and also the fact that it's like got past like producers and everything and it was made the queerest piece of like hollywood media i have ever seen that wasn't meant to be queer yeah it's just like yeah yeah cool that we went on this tangent because yeah we love we we we we simply love to see it be gay do crimes hack the planet

uh this is not legally for the fbi this is not legally actionable this is a joke yeah this is as you can tell clearly famous catchphrases yes from the movie Hackers, which you could watch. From the movie Hackers, yeah. In places. Yeah. You can watch it very legally on the internet. I actually don't know if it's on any streaming platform. I don't think so. I watched it.

I think it is, because I watched it with my family kind of recently, which was a wild time. It's probably streaming it's an Apple TV apparently yeah so it's there you can find it there you can find it in other places it can find it somewhere both legally and illegally

if I'm allowed to endorse like piracy on your podcast we did an entire episode about how to pirate stuff, so... You can find it both legally and illegally, and if you're lucky, I'm the one seeding the torrent for you.

Oh, and that... The other thing I actually should be worried about, if people want to find you, where can they find you? I'm on Twitter at underscore9crimeu, and in case Twitter suspends me once again for the sixth time i have a website at maya.crimeyou.gay it rules it's so good it yes that's like half the reason i'm famous now it's just because my website is pink it's great. Yeah, so this has been Make It Happen Here.

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