IT IS WHAT IT IS - 49ERS PUT THE LEAGUE ON NOTICE, MAHOMES MOANIN' & EMBARRASSING COWBOYS
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Welcome back to Today's What It Is. I'm Treasure Wilson, aka Stat Baby, along with your host, Mace, and Camp.
And y'all, today we are joined with our analysts, Arabia.
Hello, hello. Hi, everybody.
Arabia, what's going on? Killer, what's going on, man?
Shit, I'm good. How's everybody today, man?
Chiller, man. What color is your hat, Cam?
Killer pink.
Killer pink.
I don't know if you know when we wasn't speaking, I had my own variation of pink.
If you go to Lowe's and go into the paint section
In the Home Depot
It was Killer Pink for like three years
I patented
That's my hair
Seriously
So you can paint the room
Killer Pink
Bors you can
Paint cans
curtains
Different shades of things
I never finished up with it though
Without it for about five years
You know, you got to continue to patent.
I started doing other things, though.
But this is Killer Pink.
Oh, that's good.
I wasn't sure.
I said, that's interesting.
But I like it.
I'm glad you do, man.
I'm glad it works out for you.
Shout out, Killer Pink.
Okay, y'all.
A lot of good games on Sunday.
So let's get to it.
We're actually going to start with this Niners game
because the 49ers beat the Seahawks,
32 to 29.
We've seen the Niners have made no excuses even through injuries and are 5.0.
So, Mace, who do you give the most credit to for the Niners success?
You know, they say all trio, y'all, got to put some respect on Brock Purdy's name.
That's just the word in the street.
My boy, 2Gs hit me up.
He said, all trio, y'all, you, Cam and Arabia, got to put some respect on
on a 49a's name and Brock Purdy.
Me, I credit all the success to Brock Purdy.
I think, you know, even though McCaffrey is the toughest white boy out there at this point, pause,
he might, that run that he had was exceptional.
And then it was, they was just making amazing plays.
And I got to credit the ref a little bit.
The ref did help them, Statt.
Did you see when they was running to get the first down?
and he called it off.
That was just, that was not cool.
It would have been different if the Swifties was over there,
but the Swifties wasn't over there.
They're not supposed to be doing that.
That was a swiftly move.
Whoever that ref is,
I know before we had some refs penalized and suspended.
I got to get the Craig to Rock, the Barthie and the ref,
whoever the ref was that called that.
Brock Purdy and the ref.
Okay.
Cam, what are your thoughts?
Are you talking about this game or just them starting off at 5 and 0?
Well, let's, for this question, yeah, let's do this game.
Who do you give the most credit to?
The answer is Kyle Shanahan.
Kyle Shanahan, year after year, has injury after injury,
and he still does what he has to do.
Last time they started 5 and 0, last two times they started 5 and 0,
they made it to the Super Bowl during his era.
And they all, even like today,
Debo Samuels go down,
even though it's towards the end of the game,
they make it happen every time.
And I have to credit that to Cal,
Shanahan.
Brock Purdy played decent,
but the turnovers in this game,
I don't know if y'all watched the whole game.
The turnovers was fucking amazing.
It was 21, 28 points,
if I'm not mistaken, after the third quarter
on points off of turnovers.
Yeah, what, Mace.
You hear what, Mace?
You hear what?
A polite line stuff, a little bit.
It's a smidge.
A smidge.
You bring Brock Purdy, let me go, man.
I'm going with cows.
You made some great points, though, Mason.
That's that.
He might be up to 38 moments.
Somebody's tallying.
He may be up to 38 moments because I do agree with Mace.
I think they placed that ball on the last play of the game
or not last play of the game when the Seahawks need to get a first down.
I think Mace is correct and they place the ball a yard short of them getting the first down
what ultimately led to the 49ers winning that game.
But the turnovers was from both teams
were just ridiculous.
The first playoff, the first score on these scene was off turnovers
or first possessions of the game.
Very exciting game to watch.
It was dope.
Brock Purdy did very well, like May said.
Christian McCaffrey, like May said,
did their thing as well.
The Jackson, the Smith nigger, man.
You can't drop them pass.
He dropped a key pass.
And we rarely see him drop any passes.
You know, he went out and got this money in the offseason well deserved,
but you can't drop passes in them key moments like he did,
which was also a part of the reason why they wasn't able to get down the field
and put together a winning drive.
But if you're asking me stat who I'm giving the credit to,
I'm giving the credit to Kyle Shanahan.
Let me ask you all this, man.
And it's question for Mason.
Well, I'll ask it after Arabius take.
Arabia, who are you giving the most credit to?
Yeah, it's hard to say, and I feel like that's a compliment, because some of the best teams
are very well-rounded.
We see it right now with the Jags, we see it with the 49ers.
I don't know if it's like Cam said, the Shanahan system, because when it's next man up, that
person is able to perform at a very high level.
And in that same regard, I don't know if it's the GM because they're drafting well and
they're doing well in free agency and in the off season.
So I can't pinpoint.
And then there's a talent on the field, not just offense, but defense as well.
saw Fred Warner is one of the best linebackers in the league. So I can't pinpoint one exact
person or one exact thing. That's the reason for San Francisco success. But that's a great
thing because they have a lot of good things going for them. And again, Cam made a really good
point. Seven turnovers between both of these teams this game. For Seattle, I'm pointing at the run game.
When that run game isn't there, three turnovers were due to these running backs, two of which
were lost. Three turnovers due to running backs. Also, when you don't have that run game,
San Darno puts the ball in harm's way and, you know, he gets to intercept.
And for San Francisco, I'm looking at special teams.
So, you know, turnovers were a big thing, but I would say San Francisco can attribute a lot to their success.
Okay.
The question I want to ask both of you guys, Mason Arabia, is this.
And we see, I've seen it all day.
I've seen all the games all day.
And I've been seeing it, you know, not maybe the last three, four years.
And sometimes it works.
A lot of times it works and sometimes it doesn't.
what do you think about them constantly punching the football out?
Because if you don't punch the football out, the legs are still going and you're not, they're gaining yardage.
So a lot of these tackles, instead of them going for an actual physical tackle, they're trying to get a turnover.
And we've seen it work several times today.
Actually a game that I know we're going to talk about.
Well, we may not get to that game, actually.
But it was a play during the Miami and Cincinnati game where the ball got punched out out of Chase's hand.
And then when they're running it back before in the same play, two punchouts happened.
When you punched it out of the sand, the guy runs back and then he gets it punched out of the sand.
What do you guys think about Mace and Arabia?
I'll go with you first Mace about them punching the ball out and not actually going for tackles.
It looks good when it works, but then when it doesn't work,
you got the running back receiver, tight,
and whoever gaining yardage because you're not actually trying to tackle them.
That's a really interesting one because, like you said, if it works, we're happy,
but if it doesn't, it's one of those things where you're like, what was you thinking?
Like, you, because you should know if you could punch the ball out.
I believe if you're a real athlete in that regard, like you go for a still.
in basketball, you know you can get the still.
It shouldn't be where you're constantly trying to punch the ball out and you don't get it.
Pause, that's just what I believe.
I don't believe you should go for that because if you miss it,
they're going to get so many extra yards from that, like you said,
because their feet are moving at a very high speed, especially in the national football league.
So I think it's one of those gambles.
If you can do it, it better work.
Because if not, we know what you was thinking, but come on, my niggie, we got to stop that.
Yeah, shout out the Charles Tillman and the Bears who really invented and popularized this football move.
But I would definitely say that it's something that should be used sparingly.
But because there's so many plays that are rewarded by the peanut punch, I think it's happening more and more and more.
There are so many plays that even happened today, like Cam said, where the ball gets loose and you can force the fumble because of the peanut punch.
But ultimately, we do have to get back to fundamental football as far as tax.
and get that shoulder down, get hip level,
keep that head up, and wrap up.
And we're not seeing it as much right now.
And I think at some point it's going to happen so much.
They're going to start missing tackles
and then have to get back to the basics.
So is that, in a sense, is that, what can I say?
Is that lazy football?
I mean, you would know.
Is that being lazy?
No, I wouldn't say lazy.
I would just say, again, they're seeing positive outcomes
from this peanut punch.
And so because of that, you get an opportunity to get your team the ball back and you get to kind of really make a play in that moment.
So I wouldn't call it lazy.
I would just say that it's a way to make a play.
But it is risky because if you don't make the play, like you said, Mace, you kind of miss the tackle.
And that's not what you're looking for.
Okay.
I think you made a great analogy, Mace, just now without even knowing.
It's similar to going for a steel.
If you get the steel, it looks basketball-related.
you get the steel, it looks good, but if not, you're reaching.
And it's bad in basketball if you get caught reaching.
Yeah, because somebody got to help you.
Somebody got to help you.
And you end up putting the team in a compromising position if it doesn't work.
That's why I asked, was it lazy?
But another question, is it just a last-minute thing?
Do you think it's a last-minute thing that people are doing in Arabia where they're going
for it because they couldn't get the tackle?
or you think should it be their first option
or should it be a second option?
No, ultimately when you're approaching a guy,
you want to break down.
And in that breakdown,
you can try to punch,
but there's no way you can punch
and then wrap up in game speed.
Slow down, it looks very easy to punch
and then maybe get your arms around the guy,
but it's really one or the other.
I think you have to make that decision
before you get there,
and you pretty much in your mind know
if you're going to go for the ball
or if you're going to wrap up.
So it's football IQ,
because from what you're,
you're saying, it is football IQ, because I would rather, you know, pause, get the sack
than try to punch it and miss it.
Because you can't you wrap them up and they still punch the ball out, right?
There's a way for while you're wrapping up, you can either intentionally or accidentally
punch the ball out as you're wrapping up.
But as far as an intentional punch, there are two different things.
Okay.
It worked a lot yesterday.
It was going all over the place.
everybody was getting the ball punched out.
I didn't know the turn was peanut punch,
Paul, Saravia, but yeah.
It was, it worked a lot yesterday throughout the whole day.
Yeah.
So before we go to this next game,
I want to get you guys' reaction to this exchange
between Trayvon Diggs and Mike Evans,
because we saw there was a lot of momentum throughout the whole game.
Nick, if you want to play the clip real quick,
Mace just want to get your thoughts on this.
clip here as you see Mike Evans is checking his jersey to see who that was talking to him.
I like that kind of talk. I like that. Like, yo, who is you talking to? I love when you can remind
people that, hey, you're not even supposed to be talking to me right now. And when he looks on the
back of his jersey, that's super disrespectful. Whoever he was talking to, you need to see him
outside because that was crazy. It was Diggs. Strayvon Diggs.
Yeah, that was crazy.
He was like, who are you again?
You're not Stefan.
No, my bad, my bad, my bad.
You're in the National Football League,
but that's what he was basically saying.
Okay, Cam, thoughts.
I loved it too.
I loved it, Mike.
Because, you know, Mike Evans,
I think he's a super great addition to the 49ers,
but we know where he was doing in Tampa Bay.
And it ain't like he a nigger
that can't do that.
You know what I'm saying?
I love the fact that he grabbed his jersey and looked at him.
First of all, who am I talking to?
Let me grab the back of you.
Let me grab your jersey first of all,
for I even know who I'm responding to before I even respond to you.
Nigel, what's your name?
I loved it.
I thought it was great.
I think we need more of that.
I thought it was tremendous.
Yeah.
And Arabia.
Yeah, I love the two. This isn't the first time something like this has happened.
And I want to, I wish I remembered which players have done it. But I remember looking at
miced up and some of the players who are miced up if they're talking trash to the other team.
They'll be like, who are you? Like, where'd you come from? So I love when they talk trash.
I liked it a lot. Yeah. And after, oh, go ahead, Mason.
No, that that means that, you know, how you say it? Trayvon Diggs.
Trayvon Diggs got it. He got to, he got to go crazy after that. If you're watching this, Trayvon,
go crazy, man. You can't have him talking to you. Like, I didn't like that. I liked it because of
the camaraderie, but I didn't like him saying that to you. And you, I know you didn't like that.
So make sure next time they know your name. But now it's a meme forever. He said, Mike Evan said
he genuinely didn't know who that was, because you know, like the helmet stuff, you can't tell.
He was like, oh, shoot, that was Diggs. But hey. I think, I think he wouldn't have known without
the helmet.
It just be like that.
Like, fam, you know what I mean?
Like, let me tell you something.
You know what I do now?
And I'm not talking about competition or anything.
When somebody come up to me and be like, yo, remember I met you?
And I automatically just say yes now, just even if I don't remember.
Because a memory for them is sometimes not a memory for you.
and if you tell them no
when you try to convince them no they try to convince you yes they'd be like yo
remember you had a white t-shirt out the sun was out it was 68 degrees
the light had turned green and then it turned red and he was like
nah and they be like oh man I had on a green shirt
they just keep trying to get you to go
to remember whatever time they met you or whatever
and I know this doesn't relate but I'm just saying sometime I'm memorand
for you is not a memory for somebody else I remember I ran down years ago on Greg Popovich
I don't know if I said this on the show before and I took a picture with Greg Popovich
and if I walked up to Greg Popovich today and be like yo remember you's on 57th street in 5th
Avenue and I was like hey take a picture with me he probably won't remember because think about
how many niggas run up on Greg Popovich and asked for a picture when he's walking the streets of
man hey it's a memory for me it may not be a memory for him
Fair, fair, fair.
Shout out Popovich, though.
And this was his game off of, them elevating them up from the practice squad.
So that's another reason.
But he got to go crazy.
He got to go crazy.
I'm supporting Trayvon.
I'm supporting.
The whole thing about it is this, Mace.
He not knew.
He's with Dallas.
He's been around.
He not knew?
He was mad at me before.
he threatened me
that's what I'm trying to tell you.
It's not like he's new.
He's been around.
So they're like he shouldn't know him.
He played for dollars for some years for a minute.
So that's what made it more disrespectful.
Fair.
I'm also just team Mike Evans, so I don't know.
It was funny, but it definitely was disrespectful.
So take it how you all want it.
Okay, so this next game, the Jags beat the Eagles 19 to 17
in London, literally a game that you had to watch until the final seconds because we saw
Cam Little secured the win for the Jags from the logo, Mace.
What did you think about this ending here in the Jags winning?
Man, I was just looking at whoever that running back was, he was just having his way, man.
Pause.
It's like, y'all score, I score again, then I score again.
It just looked like the Jaguars.
they were definitely going to win this game.
And when you got the Eagles playing with teams not getting to 30 points,
it's kind of anybody's game.
But when you lose with somebody hitting that field go from the,
like you said, from the logo, it's really heartbreaking.
But I'm excited about the Jags being 401.
I got to say it.
It's going to be a great football year.
I got, you know, the Jags 4-1.
I got Kansas City 4-0.
It's just looking good for my teams.
You know, so that's how I'm feeling today's stat.
I can't say the same.
I know y'all got a little win, but I can't say you feel the same.
But it's great to be here with you guys.
A little win.
Great to be here.
Wow.
Love just great.
Great.
Camp, Potts.
What I do like about this is that, and shout to the jack start on 4-1, of course,
they start off to a great start.
Nick Serrani taking the blame at the end of the game
And that's what the head coach supposed to do
But the end of the day
It wasn't even about the motherfucker
Of course it's about the field goal
But you kicking it
I don't know you know
You're supposed to cover on special teams
You let the nigger run it back
50 yards off the kickoff
With about I don't know how many seconds was left
20, 30, whatever it was, he ran it back
off that. I don't know if you kick it into the end zone or let them try to fight for Yardish after you kick it into the end zone.
But I was listening to Mike Tomlin talk about this game and he says special teams has to cover.
You know the game is a situational game. It's on the line. You're up one point.
You don't let somebody run it back like that with 20, 25 seconds left for whatever it is.
You give the kick of the credit, but a lot of credit goes to the person.
I don't even know to return his name,
but he runs it back for 50 yards.
What are you doing?
Was that Washington?
I don't know his name, but, you know, everybody.
Yes, Sierra up the left.
Yeah, I do, yeah, thank you, Arabia.
Yeah, you can't do that.
Like, special teams pisses me off, man.
Special teams pisses me to fuck off
because you got one job most of you.
some people don't play other positions when you know special teams running backs and
sometimes receivers or you know tight as listen stop the fucking run it's fucking 20 fucking
seconds left and you let the nigger run it back from the five-yard line to the 50 or
six or 40 whatever it was the kicker the deserve the credit but the real credit reserve so
sorry what's his name arabia i won't mispronounce it yesir abdala the real
credit go to that nigga.
That nigga
get the real credit. He
get the credit. The kicker finished the job
like he's supposed to do. But special
teams, you got to cover
in that situation, man.
And the coach took the blame.
But it ain't his fault.
You got special teams coach. You got special teams
practice and you have situational
football. And they didn't follow through
and the Eagles. I don't know where the
Eagles are going from here, but it doesn't
look good the last three weeks.
and Arabia.
Yeah, I completely agree.
The Eagles offensive line right now is going through trials and tribulations between injury,
retirement, and trades.
And so when that happens, your run game isn't the same.
Even when Sequin isn't because he's dealing with his own injuries, the opportunities
just aren't there.
Philly had 22 yards on the ground as a team all game.
22 yards as a team through four quarters and only scored three points in the second half.
So I don't even want to make it about what Philly did wrong so much as what Jacksonville
did right. And again, Cam took my points completely. This is about defense. Defensively,
they had some really special moments and special teams. Yassir Abdullah with this return,
there were eight seconds left. And then Cam Little comes, it's a luxury for an NFL team to have a
great kicker. It shortens the field and it alleviates pressure from your offense. So shout out to
special teams and this Jaguars defense. Okay, so this next game, and I think it goes pretty hand in
hand, especially seeing kind of where the Eagles are going. So we saw the Giants and Commanders game,
ended in a tie 2727.
I know Arabia, you probably have a lot of thoughts on this as well.
But, Mace, I'm going to let you go first.
What do we think of this game and then the way the Giants are looking?
Man, man, man.
If you would have told me that Jamans Winston was going to come out at 300-something yards
to Jaden Daniels, $199, I wouldn't have believed it.
I know this is Arabia's team.
I'm not going to go too hard on our team.
But come on, you can't lose the James Winston,
but you can because he's a believer.
God was on his side.
That's the best way I could put it.
When you put somebody of faith on the Giants,
God is working with the Giants.
I don't know how Nick feels about this,
but God is definitely working with the Giants.
And I think that the Giants have a great chance
of staying at this pace.
I mean, who knows?
That's what I would give to this take.
But I am kind of feeling kind of sad for Jane Daniels because it's starting to look like that C.J. Stroud thing where you was this quarterback supposed to be promising.
He still can be promising, but it's starting to look like that where you're playing good.
But losing is not good for a winning organization.
I remember we was talking about Magic Johnson being there and the guy from Golden State actually being a part.
of this team and they're just losing too bad we talked about how it doesn't look good for philly
it definitely doesn't look good for the commanders to be one and three okay cam i'm gonna say this
i think jaden danes played really well coming off of injury um he was smooth he was he did what he's
supposed to do um got to realize he was out the last couple weeks he looked really really good
coming back off injury but i want to give a round of applause
Isaiah Lightley,
Malik Neighbors,
and James Winston.
Y'all did not,
it's none of y'all fault.
None of y'all for.
Y'all play outstanding, man.
Round of applause.
And you're right,
Statt.
I said that the Giants
was going to win this division.
And I told Nick,
do not come back to him next year
after they won the division
because he didn't want to be,
once Jackson Dart went down.
The most important stat for this particular game
for the,
for the Giants is zero interceptions for Winston.
Now, we know he could get us three touchdowns if you're the Giants.
He had three touchdowns last week.
Pardon me, they won the game, but he had two interceptions.
If he could cut the interceptions out, James Winston is nice, man.
He's nice, and he look really, really good.
Washington, they didn't play great situational football.
Before we get to situational football, right?
James Winston did good.
Before we even get to that,
James Winston did his thing,
like I said,
Isaiah likely when league neighbors did they think.
Everybody wants to be scatible, scatible, scatible.
This nigga, let them up the fucking feeling over, Tom,
James Winston,
and all they have to do is run the fucking clock out,
but they want to give it to scatible.
He get two good runs, start pound the ground, yeah, yeah, yeah.
And what do he do?
Peanut Punch,
Arabis was called a peanut punch the nigger poor peanut punch
peanut punch the nigger what are you doing bro all these backflips and all this crazy
w you get people yo bro what are you doing what are you doing they had a good comeback even
in the end of the game and the end of the fourth quarter they came back to sending overtime you
get up the field with a chance to win the game and this thing he gets peanut punched pause
back flip nigg you want to be all over the
the place can't hold on to the fucking ball so that's out of the camp scataboo business so further notice
but i do want to give the giants their credit now they get up the field they're in scoring
range to win the game cam scottaboo turns the fucking ball over then they get on the other side
um on defense uh i had this nigger name here pardon me let me get his name for dena wilson
i want to give him a lot of credit that's the defensive coordinator for the giants because at the
end of the fourth quarter and then overtime he figured it out he started blitzing blitzing jane
daniels and jane's had to get rid of that ball and he wasn't prepared for that blitz and he looked like
a damn headlights i'm not going to blame that on day on on on jane daniels but you have to have to have
that the offensive coordinator you know these niggas is coming pause these niggas is coming and you
couldn't do nothing about it then what happens the last play of the game what the fuck was that arabia
What was that?
That's what I'm talking about
situational football.
What was that?
If you were command of sphere,
you got to be a livid.
Live it.
I'm going to pull livid out.
You got to be livid if you're a commanding fit.
Livid.
What was that?
You got the ball in field goal range.
It's 12, 13 seconds left.
Why are you trying to run a play?
Hike the ball,
spike the ball,
and get the field go.
you then off the field.
And then you win the game.
If you're a Giants fan, man, listen,
you're so happy that it ends in a draw
because of what happened with Scatterboot.
But if you're a commander's fan,
you got to be livid.
Live it.
If it's another word of Rabia, you let me know.
But if I was a commander's fan, I'd be on fire.
I'm good.
Go ahead.
I'm pissed.
I've since calmed down.
because since yesterday it's it's I've gone from mad to just kind of numb but you're absolutely right it's
situational football in the beginning I'm like jaden why are you running you wasted six eight seconds off the clock
whatever it was you can't run here that that's never going to happen but then I'm like okay that's on
coaching as far as clock management as far as letting your team know hey and overtime we have two timeouts
and not three coaching has to prepare their players hey here we have to have to
to either do this or this. Jaden, if nothing's available, you got to throw the ball out.
You cannot run here. And Jaden also in some regard has to have the football
IQ to do that as well. But I'm putting more of it on coaching than I am on Jaden specifically,
but there is some blame to put around. But I just, like you said, this was very frustrating.
You know, DAC, somebody in the building, and maybe we'll get to his head that the Cowboys
loss was embarrassing. This was embarrassing. I think this was more embarrassing than the Cowboys
lost to the Bucks. I would say that. I think say that the Cowboys lost to the Bucks was
embarrassing is a discredit to the bucks. But this was absolutely ridiculous. Kick the field goal
and you win the game. I'm tired of tying these niggas. The last four times we tied anybody
in franchise history, the last four times, three of those times were against the Giants. I'm tired
to tie them. That other one time was against the Bengals. So we just have to play much better
situational football and just be aware of things like the clock and how many timeouts you have.
Okay. And so then just looking at the Giants as a whole now, and I think Cam predicted this earlier
in the season. He says that he sees them being at the top of division. We're seeing what the
Eagles are doing as well. But Mace, what's your opinion here? How do we see this going?
I mean, he might be right because he might be right. There's nobody else to beat.
They just beat the Washington, and then the Cowboys are not looking too good. And then you got the
Eagles. I don't know. I really don't know about this thing. So, but I definitely think the Giants
can win that division.
There's nobody they have to be scared of.
There's nobody that you think is going to start playing better.
You got the Eagles already at two and three.
They're not going to get much better than that.
So if they could just keep this pace, like Cam talked about earlier,
if you can not turn the ball over Jamon Winston, James Winston,
this could be a turnaround year.
Who knows, you know?
And if you win a game in the playoffs, who knows what they might be.
talking about it's new york city man people forget really fast really quick before you go cam do you
think it could be or it will be what like a turnaround year for them because you're saying could and
i'm picking up on these words here and i'm like i need a definitive answer i think i think it could
because the boy is born again you know he got god on his side i'm gonna go with it i'm gonna go with it
i'm praying for him it was a sunday game you know he got a lot of the stars are lining you know we
praying for James Winston.
I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt,
even though there's no benefit in doubt.
There isn't, but still on could, but heard you.
Cam, what do you think?
No, I'm going with it.
I'm going with it.
James Winston, I got my, I got my New York Giant Blue on, you know.
I told you all that.
Okay.
Yeah, I'm going with the Giants.
That's why I told Nick, don't come back.
And I come back.
You panicked soon as Jackson Dog got hurt.
Don't come back, bro.
Look, Philly's in disarray.
They're just in total disarray.
Saquan Barclay's hurt.
He's week to week.
We already seen the chemistry with Smith and Jalen Hurst the other week
where they just look at each other.
Or one's looking away and the other one's looking at them.
The chemistry, something's going on with Philly outside of on the field.
And I don't know who's fault it is or who they mad at or what the problem is.
But something interior that we don't know about or I haven't found out about is definitely going on.
Cowboys, the Cowboys are just being the Cowboys.
Cowboys, they're not doing anything outside of being the Cowboys.
To Mace's point a little early, I think Jaden Daniels played well today.
But he's a person, I'm not going to say, I'm not jinxing him and call him RG3,
but he has to stay out of injury for this team to do well.
They did well today.
Look, it ended in the tie.
It isn't like they lost or they won.
It entered the tie.
So until I see Jaden Darius stay on the field longer,
I'm not putting them above the Giants.
And you got to think about this.
If the Giants ended up winning this game today,
they would be four and one,
which they had a chance to win if it wasn't for Camp Scadaboo.
Not only fucking Camp Scadaboo now, think about it.
Back to special teams.
Well, the fucking field goal, nigga, missed two field goals twice that could have made them win before the end of regulation.
And in overtime, the fucking nigga missed.
Special, yo, you got one job, bro.
You got one job, bro.
Kick the fucking field goal, bro.
Giants had three chances to win this game.
I'm throwing through a lot on Camp Scataboo.
but the kicker twice
Giants should have won that game
Giants would be four and one
That's why I want to give a round of applause
The neighbors likely in Winston
Because they did what they're supposed to do
It's the other fucking phases
The run game
Get smack in the ground
And all this after getting a six five yard run
Then you got the field goal kicker
I know motherfucker Harbaugh is pissed off
Because he comes from special teams
He started with special teams
And when special teams
Fuck up you know you're a head coach now
But you know when you come from something
That makes you more mad
Like oh who did we recruit this nigga
Giants is gonna win this division
My opinion
But um
They should be four in one right now
Which I'll add to that really quick
I don't know how to pronounce his last name
I'll just be transparent but his first name is Dominic
He went undrafted in 2026
And then signed with them as an undrafted free agent
So, yeah, definitely not a good...
Yeah, I see why he's undrafted.
I see why.
He's from Michigan.
Oh, he's from Michigan.
No wonder.
Please, it's too early for this.
You ask me who I think is going to win the NFC East?
Yeah, sure, the Giants, whatever.
As great of a team as I think the commanders are, we aren't winning games.
And that just is what it is.
Philly, like I said, is going through trials and tribulations.
Cowboys defense is selling.
So, yeah, I'll go, John.
but, you know, I wonder, just like I kind of wonder what.
It hurts.
Does it hurt, does it hurt to say that?
Yo.
It doesn't hurt to say the giant specific.
Like, I don't have an issue with Giants or Eagles, teams or fans.
Like, they don't really bother me.
It's just the Cowboys who I hate.
But it's just frustrating because I really do see great qualities in my team.
And who cares?
Because we're still not winning.
That part hurts.
That part is frustrating.
when you see like real special things in all three phases of football and you just can't get right.
So that that's really frustrating.
That's fair.
Be sure honest.
No, you said you're not winning games, but there is another team that is starting to win some.
So the Patriots, are they back in the groove?
We will discuss after the break.
She called this thing about toxic.
Four years and counting.
Got you feeling like a option.
Maybe I'm my own problem, baby
welcome back. So we saw a pretty high scoring game for the Patriots after they beat the Raiders, 45 to 17.
And we also saw that Patriots beat the bills the other week as well.
So Mace is Drake May, Patriots getting back into the groove.
You're not ready to believe it yet.
Where's your head at with this?
I'm starting to believe that Drake May, he might be back, you know.
He got the touchdowns that he was getting.
When you can get five touchdowns and a game,
game in the National Football League. That's just, that's just premier. That's elite, you know,
especially against a hungry team that was in the Raiders, right? The Raiders has been playing
good as of lately. He's going up against a Kirk Cousin that's filling themselves that has been
playing great, you know, getting the ball out to the receivers the way he should. They got a good
running offense. But it seemed like Drake May has really found his receivers. And now they're starting to,
they're starting to gel like they were.
last year. You got Douglas. He caught a few touchdowns and he kissing, you know, giving all
a praise of God. It was just looking good for them. And I'm happy for Drake Mays because it seemed like
just last week, everybody was saying the guy could be a bus and that was a fluke, a fluke season
that he had last week. So shout out to him and shout out to this great New England team.
I think they could turn things around. Three and two is not that premiere, but it was one of those
they desperately need it.
Yeah, look,
Mace said it.
I'm a dumb it down the way he said.
Drake May got tired of niggas playing with his name the last couple weeks.
Nicks have been playing with Drake May name like he wasn't the runner up for MVP last year.
And he got,
the chat had been going on.
It wasn't just last week.
Since the season started,
Mace is correct.
They've been playing with his name.
He said it a different way,
but that's exactly what he'd been doing.
And now he's found this groove.
He had eight different receivers for double-digit receptions.
And we have to realize we're dealing with a young quarterback
and coming off the success that they had last year,
we're in week five, people want to see, oh, they should be four and oh,
they should be four and five and no, four and one.
Listen, man, real football doesn't start to November.
We see where everybody's at right around Thanksgiving or right before Thanksgiving.
That's when real football starts.
Us included on this show and every other show we get our job is up here to critique, analyze predictions, think what's going to happen.
But it's a lot of football left to be played.
And Drake May got tired of niggas playing with his name.
And he came out and bust ass yesterday.
Now on the Raiders side, we seem to, now we have to think about the Raiders.
I remember Arabia caught them the Chrysler 300.
And maybe they might be the Chrysler,
300 because two premier teams right they play real well the first three games like she said i have to
give her credit that you run up against the kansas city chiefs which was that game went down to the
wire but you go up to new england and get smacked in the face i really want to see where this
raider team goes in the next couple weeks because they really might he may have the perfect
analogy that they're the crisis three should look good when you pull it off the lot
Chrysler 300 look good
until you pull it next to a Rose Royce
then you realize
it's a Chrysler 300 when you're at the light like this
let me run the light
man
I'm going to run the light man
so I really want to see where the
raters are going to be out the next couple
weeks to see what they look like
but I want to give a lot of credit to Drake May
because I heard a lot of analysts
the last two weeks saying they don't
even trust Drake May. And I was like, God damn, bro. This thing it went to the Super Bowl.
I want to see what they say the rest of this week about them. Yeah, the Patriots offense started
off pretty slow, but I think we're seeing them really start to find their footing. And that's
what happens. The offensive side of the ball tends to take a little bit longer to really pick up
speed. Credit to this New England Patriots organization for being kind of like the 49ers this year,
having an injury bug as far as really key injuries and still accumulating wins. You have to think right now,
May is playing at a high level without AJ Brown, who was his number one target in that first
game. He's pretty much been on IR since day one, essentially. And he's also without Matt Collins,
who was his number one target over four games. He's also without his starting left tackle and
Will Campbell. He's also without Henderson. There's just so many injuries on this offense with his
key starters, and he's still getting it done. Also some really key injuries on defense as well,
as far as Christian Gonzalez and Carlton Davis. So shout out to the Patriots for being a well-oiled
machine and being able to have injuries, but also be able to come back and get wins.
And yeah, this Raiders team does not look like the same team that went toe to toe with the
chiefs. So I'd be very interested to see how both of these teams trend over the next few weeks.
And then just regarding the Raiders, because there's a quick snippet actually from Max
Crosby talking about his experience basically tackling Patrick Mahomes, because we know that they have
this big rivalry that they got going on back and forth. So Crosby's co-host actually asked him
whether Mahomes makes a moaning sound.
And Max Crosby confirmed it.
He said there's no other word, so you can't really pause.
But it was a great battle.
So what do you think of this shared snippet from Max Crosby talking about, really,
your quarterback base?
That's wild, man.
I don't know.
He is light skin, though.
He is light skin.
He got curly hair.
He might, he might, you know.
But the boy is tough when in pause when they come to that football.
but if he's moaned that i don't know what to say about that i got to pass the mic can't say
might he's he does it's confirmed who confirmed max crosbie can't be a mite he said it
when he said he moaned what does he mean he go
is like what's the moan is it a grunt like what is he doing
what
I got to figure out what you wanted is before I can give commentary.
So Max Crosby, if you're watching, please feel free to let us know online that it is what it is.
What does it sound like?
So we can give a better, a better commentary, killer.
Max, did you tell?
Let us know, Max.
Camp, thoughts?
I'll say this, right.
I've seen Max, me and Max Crowley
go to the same bank.
Super duper pause, Super dupeauce.
That's a big nigger pause, bro.
It's for, super four.
Listen, I think they're making light out of it
because it's Patrick Mahomes.
But if he hit you,
I think Mason Moore.
I didn't want to line step
because I definitely was going to.
I don't know what are you saying?
You a moaned.
I don't know.
Somebody hit you.
You know, somebody hit you.
I'm not singling you.
I'm talking about myself.
I don't know.
Somebody hit you in your ribs.
There's like 6-6-240, 50, 60 pounds of muscle.
You don't go, oh, I don't know what.
That's what I'm trying to say.
That was a good question.
What kind of sound are you referring to if a nigga hit you like that?
I don't know.
That's a great question.
What kind of moan pause are you talking about?
Because I think if he hit anybody, they're going to make a noise.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Arabia thoughts here.
No, I don't know what to say about this.
Again, I don't know what my reaction would be if I'm getting tackled by Max Crosby at full speed coming off the edge.
So if he moans, he moans.
If that's his reaction to Max.
He moans.
He moaned to Max.
Yeah, if he moaned to Max, I can't really blame him.
But, you know, I don't have too much to say.
Fair.
Fair.
Okay.
Next topic, y'all.
So Steelers beat the Colts 34 to 22.
Mace, what are we thinking about both teams right now?
Steelers and the Colts.
This is your team.
I'm going to let you go first.
It is.
Lovely.
First, I want to say, right?
when we lost to the Browns, every thought I was ducking.
I was not ducking, okay?
Just didn't happen to make the topics look.
That's not on purpose.
It just so happened.
The thing about being a Steelers fan,
and y'all know I love this team bad.
It's just like a win and then a lose and then I win and then I lose.
But how I'm feeling today after watching last night's game,
I'm feeling good, okay?
Like, I know we're running the offense through Jalen Warren,
and he's looking great.
He's actually the first Steeler to have 50 plus yards receiving and rushing touchdown
in the same game.
So he's been doing great in the running and the passing game.
Aaron Rogers, I'm just going to stop.
I'm going to stop talking about him.
I am.
I'm only going to praise.
I'm only going to say good things unless he has a really bad game
because I think he's finally getting into that groove.
And I know I said it's ups and downs and ups and downs.
But we're up right now, okay?
That's what I care about.
Aaron Rogers is looking really good.
We've been two and two in the red zone.
Just overall, I think the pieces are meshing.
So proud of the Steelers for this win.
As far as the Colts, I just think they didn't have.
have their best game. I think our defense did really good stopping them at a lot of points,
and they're just going to have to make some improvements. But the Colts just weren't off to the
best start, in my opinion. But I'm proud of the Steelers. I'm happy to be here. I'm happy to be
here for a win. And you'll also see me for a lose, but hopefully not. Hopefully not much more.
That's my thoughts. What's the running back name number 30? He was getting busy.
You're talking about Jay Warren. Yeah, Warren. He was getting busy.
It's tough. And I like the fact that Enraiser.
stands in the pocket.
Pause.
He takes the hit, not a Matt Crosby hit.
But he paused.
He took the hit, which led to Warren getting that touchdown.
And then you see him coming again, making a play.
So Aaron Rogers was looking pretty decent from my football IQ.
And I would like to see him keep this up.
I know we give you a hard time, Aaron Rogers.
But if you can keep this up, you can bring stat, some happiness.
I'm happy.
Papa's stat and everybody else.
see her she's excited i like when she's like this so n ron rjors can you do this for stat
but it was a two and two game right both teams were two and two when you beat a two and two
team you're really just fighting for the same old um mike mike um what is his name mike
tomlin mike tomlin 500 they was fighting for the old 500 camp this is this is that chrysler
we're talking about and i'm happy you can have a christie
You know?
Oh.
I can't do.
It might be a, it might be a minivan.
No.
No.
No.
The Chrysler minivan.
It might be a Chrysler minivan.
To be niggas two and three and all of that.
That's crazy.
No.
It could be, it would really be a bend.
It's a nice car.
You know, we win.
We're a solid car.
But that maintenance, hey, sometimes.
You got to go.
You got to go.
But, Kemp, thoughts.
Yeah, I've seen all the games today, but this one, I wasn't wasting my time with it.
You can move on for me.
I ain't watched that shit.
I wish I would.
Fuck out of here.
Watching the Colson and the Steelers' Mid-season.
I ain't watch that shit.
I ain't even going to send that.
There be no stats to you like I did watch it.
I watched every other game but that one.
Go ahead, Arabia.
I wish I would have wasted my time with that nonsense.
Okay.
All right.
With that being said,
But the Steelers played some of the best offense that we've seen from them all year.
And that's the good news.
More good news is that Jalen Warren is really stepping up and proving himself to be very valuable
given that Rico Dowdle is out with a toe injury.
The bad news is that Pittsburgh is really going through wide receivers.
We have Roman Wilson, Ben Skoronik, and Michael Pittman, Jr., who's already on IR.
So they're going to be looking at this rookie Jeremy Bernard to really step up and make plays.
Also, I think this pass rush is getting paid a lot to do very little.
I don't think they affected the game as much as they should have.
But at the end of the day, the Steelers got the win in a very tight AMC Northway race,
so I can't be met with it.
I'm going to ask for one thing.
It's just consistency.
That's all.
But, you know, guys, I'm happy.
And I'm just going to remain happy.
So moving on, because I just want to recap Thursday night football real quick,
because a couple of things had happened here.
And we spoke a little bit about it earlier.
We saw Cowboys lost to the Bucks 24 to 16.
There was actually an interaction here between a worker who had recorded
Dak Prescott in the tunnel.
I know Nick can run the clip.
The worker is actually telling
Dak Prescott, he's like, embarrassing.
So as you see Dak's face here, he looking like,
who did it?
Told him embarrassing.
And then we found out after,
I believe there's a second clip, Nick,
if you want to play that from the worker.
Yeah. I just want to say sorry to all the Dallas fans,
Dak Prescott, etc.
I'm the employee that yelled, embarrassing
as Dak walked by and looked at me.
They let me go this morning.
I'm not a Cowboys fan, but, you know, I'm sorry.
And if anybody was offended, I apologize.
But, yeah, and if anybody's hiring, then, you know, I won't do that again.
So, yeah, sorry.
Yeah, as you can see, he got let go.
Mace, thoughts on this.
That's crazy, man.
That man got a family.
All he said was what he saw.
It was embarrassing.
That's crazy.
He's going home midweek, you know,
not able to have a good Thanksgiving.
He's looking for a job now.
This is crazy.
Just because he said embarrassing.
And they were playing embarrassing.
But this lets you know, can't play with all black people, man.
Especially when black people are in power.
You can't just be yelling out stuff.
And that part, I am happy to see that they hold in both coaches accountable.
I think sometimes we hold black people accountable and not other coaches.
But that's great to see.
that, you know. It's great to see that
element, but to fire him,
no, no, no, no, I wouldn't have fired him.
I would have got charged up
to play better. And, Dak, you're a sucker
for that.
Hey, yeah. Two things for me,
two things for me, how do you know
that's really the nigger?
It's not. Do you know that?
That's not him. That's what I'm saying. Thank you,
I, thank you. I knew it. I knew it. I knew
It's a trend going on right now.
Not to lines that, but it's a trend going on right now.
But thank you for confirming now, because I was in my brain.
I said, too many niggas play on the internet right now.
I said, I knew that couldn't have been that nigger.
They'd been like six.
And they tried to get a go fund me and all that.
That nicket trying to steal money.
I know it was.
I thank you, right?
I was thinking that same shit.
I'm like, because we never seen the nigger it was.
So I'm like, is this really the nigger when I'm looking at that clip?
I've seen the clip of yesterday.
And I'm like, I don't know if this is the nigger.
We've never seen the nigger who actually, who actually was on the video.
So I didn't believe that.
And I'm glad I didn't believe it.
Because now look, we almost up here reporting false information on it is what it is.
And that ain't what it is.
It ain't that nigger.
So we don't know if the nigger got fired for saying that.
Now I'm going to go back to Mace.
Mace, we're walking out of work
and you tripping full and somebody that works for you says embarrassing.
You're not firing them?
I know you.
The laugh is loud.
It's loud laugh.
Yeah, out of here.
Yeah, yeah.
You'll call the nigger a sucker.
How are you hook on me in a sucker?
And I know you would do the same thing.
You would fire him too, though.
You would fire him.
But I didn't call the nigger a sucker.
I didn't call him a sucker.
You were whispering my ear,
y'all don't want him back here tomorrow, bro.
You were telling me the goats of the nigger.
I don't want to see him here tomorrow.
When I come here tomorrow, he better not be here.
Yeah, yeah.
So how are you called a nigger and all that?
And I know you.
It's a double standard.
He's called a double standard.
I know you would put me right to side.
Yo, tell him don't come back tomorrow.
I want to see his face.
Oh, sad.
Oh, man.
You're good ahead, man.
Well, like you guys, man.
Don't know if it's the guy or not, but just the interaction in general is saying embarrassing.
I don't know.
You can see Dax face is irritated obviously because they had just lost, but I don't think it's that bad.
Like you said, it's if you play bad, you play bad.
But people don't want to hear that sometimes.
Don't be a-
People can't tell the truth no more, Cam.
It can't even tell the truth.
Yeah, but I dig that, right?
It's like this, right?
If they was in a waste stadium, I dig it.
Not in my house, right?
Valid.
I ought to rule.
Not in my house.
That's valid.
Yeah.
Like, yo, I got this thing on Instagram or whatever, right?
I let a nigga do some slick shit in the comments sometime if I catch it.
You know, it would be Macon.
All right, cool.
You say some slick shit.
You back again saying slick shit, I'm blocking.
I'm blocking.
You come to my house.
I take my comment section like this.
You come to my house.
You come in.
Yo, I don't like these curtains.
All right, maybe you just don't like curtains.
You come back into my house.
What's the up with the couch?
Man, get the fuck out of my house.
Get out, your block.
You're not going to keep coming to my house
complaining about my motherfucking house.
It's my house.
Get out and go to somebody else's house and complain.
Don't be in my stadium to my embarrassment.
If it was a way game, I dig it.
Don't be walking past.
Your embarrassing and my crib.
Nah, not my house, bro.
Kim, how many people you block?
$208,000.
Oh, right.
I knew it was a big number of.
280,000.
That's a lot.
It's too many niggas,
because it's too many niggins too opinionated, man.
Sometimes I'll let you get your shit off sometimes.
You're too opinionated.
If you want to be a comedian and you're too opinionated.
Cool.
When you say it's a funny shit, I can snap at school.
But the one thing I don't do, Mace, is this.
Don't say no funny shit to me.
And then when I go to your page is zero post, zero followers.
I can't snap back on you.
You're out.
You're out.
You're doing it from a backup page.
I can't get back at you.
You want to snap on me, but I can't see your life.
Nope, nope, nope.
You're out.
I'm letting you do that.
If I can't see who you are, if I can't snap back, I'm not doing it.
Mind you, people ask me all that.
the time, tell him to unblock me, tell him to unblock me.
I'm like, dang, like, must not have had a profile picture or nothing, like, if you're just
on there saying stuff.
But I guess in your case, even if they do have a profile picture, sometimes they still
could get a block.
That's a fact.
To opinionate it.
Like, fam, I don't mind, I don't mind critiquing.
I don't mind joking, none of that.
But sometimes you go too far and go somewhere else with that.
It's two billion other pages.
Go somewhere else with it.
I ain't with it.
Fair.
And I guess real quick before we end, just because I'm curious,
Mace and Arabia, do y'all block people?
I don't post.
So I don't have nothing to block.
It doesn't have to be a post?
Like, do you block people in general?
It could be a number.
It could be anything.
Like, you just, nah.
I didn't look to see.
So I wouldn't have nothing to block just yet.
But I would block.
Yeah.
If I saw something and a person was doing something, like Cam said.
If you can't take the same fire pause that you're giving people,
because I probably would be like Kevin Duran if I was on Instagram
and really on every day, I probably would come out of character.
Start and then you got a backspace.
You're like, no, no, fine.
You just say nothing.
Okay, Arabia, do you block people?
Yeah, I used to block people a lot more.
I don't block mean people, people who are like,
oh, you're ugly and you're bad at what you do.
I don't mind that at all.
That's cool with me.
I block stupid people.
If you slow, you got to go.
If you make comments that are like you just making stupid comments,
like you're not cognitively functioning at a high level.
I cannot have you on my page because that's more frustrating than somebody being me.
So yeah, I'll block stupid people.
That's fair.
I might need to take a page from y'all, but I don't block people at all.
I just, if it's there, it's there.
I don't know.
But I might.
I might.
That might be a new thing I take from y'all.
But y'all, that is all the time that we have for today.
Arabia, you know, it's always a pleasure.
to have you on the show.
Thank you for having me.
Of course.
Thank y'all for watching.
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