IT IS WHAT IT IS - 49ERS PUT THE LEAGUE ON NOTICE, MAHOMES MOANIN' & EMBARRASSING COWBOYS

Episode Date: October 12, 2026

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Starting point is 00:00:03 Welcome back to Today's What It Is. I'm Treasure Wilson, aka Stat Baby, along with your host, Mace, and Camp. And y'all, today we are joined with our analysts, Arabia. Hello, hello. Hi, everybody. Arabia, what's going on? Killer, what's going on, man? Shit, I'm good. How's everybody today, man? Chiller, man. What color is your hat, Cam? Killer pink. Killer pink.
Starting point is 00:00:50 I don't know if you know when we wasn't speaking, I had my own variation of pink. If you go to Lowe's and go into the paint section In the Home Depot It was Killer Pink for like three years I patented That's my hair Seriously So you can paint the room
Starting point is 00:01:14 Killer Pink Bors you can Paint cans curtains Different shades of things I never finished up with it though Without it for about five years You know, you got to continue to patent.
Starting point is 00:01:27 I started doing other things, though. But this is Killer Pink. Oh, that's good. I wasn't sure. I said, that's interesting. But I like it. I'm glad you do, man. I'm glad it works out for you.
Starting point is 00:01:44 Shout out, Killer Pink. Okay, y'all. A lot of good games on Sunday. So let's get to it. We're actually going to start with this Niners game because the 49ers beat the Seahawks, 32 to 29. We've seen the Niners have made no excuses even through injuries and are 5.0.
Starting point is 00:02:00 So, Mace, who do you give the most credit to for the Niners success? You know, they say all trio, y'all, got to put some respect on Brock Purdy's name. That's just the word in the street. My boy, 2Gs hit me up. He said, all trio, y'all, you, Cam and Arabia, got to put some respect on on a 49a's name and Brock Purdy. Me, I credit all the success to Brock Purdy. I think, you know, even though McCaffrey is the toughest white boy out there at this point, pause,
Starting point is 00:02:37 he might, that run that he had was exceptional. And then it was, they was just making amazing plays. And I got to credit the ref a little bit. The ref did help them, Statt. Did you see when they was running to get the first down? and he called it off. That was just, that was not cool. It would have been different if the Swifties was over there,
Starting point is 00:03:00 but the Swifties wasn't over there. They're not supposed to be doing that. That was a swiftly move. Whoever that ref is, I know before we had some refs penalized and suspended. I got to get the Craig to Rock, the Barthie and the ref, whoever the ref was that called that. Brock Purdy and the ref.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Okay. Cam, what are your thoughts? Are you talking about this game or just them starting off at 5 and 0? Well, let's, for this question, yeah, let's do this game. Who do you give the most credit to? The answer is Kyle Shanahan. Kyle Shanahan, year after year, has injury after injury, and he still does what he has to do.
Starting point is 00:03:45 Last time they started 5 and 0, last two times they started 5 and 0, they made it to the Super Bowl during his era. And they all, even like today, Debo Samuels go down, even though it's towards the end of the game, they make it happen every time. And I have to credit that to Cal, Shanahan.
Starting point is 00:04:04 Brock Purdy played decent, but the turnovers in this game, I don't know if y'all watched the whole game. The turnovers was fucking amazing. It was 21, 28 points, if I'm not mistaken, after the third quarter on points off of turnovers. Yeah, what, Mace.
Starting point is 00:04:21 You hear what, Mace? You hear what? A polite line stuff, a little bit. It's a smidge. A smidge. You bring Brock Purdy, let me go, man. I'm going with cows. You made some great points, though, Mason.
Starting point is 00:04:51 That's that. He might be up to 38 moments. Somebody's tallying. He may be up to 38 moments because I do agree with Mace. I think they placed that ball on the last play of the game or not last play of the game when the Seahawks need to get a first down. I think Mace is correct and they place the ball a yard short of them getting the first down what ultimately led to the 49ers winning that game.
Starting point is 00:05:26 But the turnovers was from both teams were just ridiculous. The first playoff, the first score on these scene was off turnovers or first possessions of the game. Very exciting game to watch. It was dope. Brock Purdy did very well, like May said. Christian McCaffrey, like May said,
Starting point is 00:05:44 did their thing as well. The Jackson, the Smith nigger, man. You can't drop them pass. He dropped a key pass. And we rarely see him drop any passes. You know, he went out and got this money in the offseason well deserved, but you can't drop passes in them key moments like he did, which was also a part of the reason why they wasn't able to get down the field
Starting point is 00:06:07 and put together a winning drive. But if you're asking me stat who I'm giving the credit to, I'm giving the credit to Kyle Shanahan. Let me ask you all this, man. And it's question for Mason. Well, I'll ask it after Arabius take. Arabia, who are you giving the most credit to? Yeah, it's hard to say, and I feel like that's a compliment, because some of the best teams
Starting point is 00:06:28 are very well-rounded. We see it right now with the Jags, we see it with the 49ers. I don't know if it's like Cam said, the Shanahan system, because when it's next man up, that person is able to perform at a very high level. And in that same regard, I don't know if it's the GM because they're drafting well and they're doing well in free agency and in the off season. So I can't pinpoint. And then there's a talent on the field, not just offense, but defense as well.
Starting point is 00:06:49 saw Fred Warner is one of the best linebackers in the league. So I can't pinpoint one exact person or one exact thing. That's the reason for San Francisco success. But that's a great thing because they have a lot of good things going for them. And again, Cam made a really good point. Seven turnovers between both of these teams this game. For Seattle, I'm pointing at the run game. When that run game isn't there, three turnovers were due to these running backs, two of which were lost. Three turnovers due to running backs. Also, when you don't have that run game, San Darno puts the ball in harm's way and, you know, he gets to intercept. And for San Francisco, I'm looking at special teams.
Starting point is 00:07:22 So, you know, turnovers were a big thing, but I would say San Francisco can attribute a lot to their success. Okay. The question I want to ask both of you guys, Mason Arabia, is this. And we see, I've seen it all day. I've seen all the games all day. And I've been seeing it, you know, not maybe the last three, four years. And sometimes it works. A lot of times it works and sometimes it doesn't.
Starting point is 00:07:49 what do you think about them constantly punching the football out? Because if you don't punch the football out, the legs are still going and you're not, they're gaining yardage. So a lot of these tackles, instead of them going for an actual physical tackle, they're trying to get a turnover. And we've seen it work several times today. Actually a game that I know we're going to talk about. Well, we may not get to that game, actually. But it was a play during the Miami and Cincinnati game where the ball got punched out out of Chase's hand. And then when they're running it back before in the same play, two punchouts happened.
Starting point is 00:08:30 When you punched it out of the sand, the guy runs back and then he gets it punched out of the sand. What do you guys think about Mace and Arabia? I'll go with you first Mace about them punching the ball out and not actually going for tackles. It looks good when it works, but then when it doesn't work, you got the running back receiver, tight, and whoever gaining yardage because you're not actually trying to tackle them. That's a really interesting one because, like you said, if it works, we're happy, but if it doesn't, it's one of those things where you're like, what was you thinking?
Starting point is 00:09:04 Like, you, because you should know if you could punch the ball out. I believe if you're a real athlete in that regard, like you go for a still. in basketball, you know you can get the still. It shouldn't be where you're constantly trying to punch the ball out and you don't get it. Pause, that's just what I believe. I don't believe you should go for that because if you miss it, they're going to get so many extra yards from that, like you said, because their feet are moving at a very high speed, especially in the national football league.
Starting point is 00:09:35 So I think it's one of those gambles. If you can do it, it better work. Because if not, we know what you was thinking, but come on, my niggie, we got to stop that. Yeah, shout out the Charles Tillman and the Bears who really invented and popularized this football move. But I would definitely say that it's something that should be used sparingly. But because there's so many plays that are rewarded by the peanut punch, I think it's happening more and more and more. There are so many plays that even happened today, like Cam said, where the ball gets loose and you can force the fumble because of the peanut punch. But ultimately, we do have to get back to fundamental football as far as tax.
Starting point is 00:10:14 and get that shoulder down, get hip level, keep that head up, and wrap up. And we're not seeing it as much right now. And I think at some point it's going to happen so much. They're going to start missing tackles and then have to get back to the basics. So is that, in a sense, is that, what can I say? Is that lazy football?
Starting point is 00:10:33 I mean, you would know. Is that being lazy? No, I wouldn't say lazy. I would just say, again, they're seeing positive outcomes from this peanut punch. And so because of that, you get an opportunity to get your team the ball back and you get to kind of really make a play in that moment. So I wouldn't call it lazy. I would just say that it's a way to make a play.
Starting point is 00:10:54 But it is risky because if you don't make the play, like you said, Mace, you kind of miss the tackle. And that's not what you're looking for. Okay. I think you made a great analogy, Mace, just now without even knowing. It's similar to going for a steel. If you get the steel, it looks basketball-related. you get the steel, it looks good, but if not, you're reaching. And it's bad in basketball if you get caught reaching.
Starting point is 00:11:22 Yeah, because somebody got to help you. Somebody got to help you. And you end up putting the team in a compromising position if it doesn't work. That's why I asked, was it lazy? But another question, is it just a last-minute thing? Do you think it's a last-minute thing that people are doing in Arabia where they're going for it because they couldn't get the tackle? or you think should it be their first option
Starting point is 00:11:46 or should it be a second option? No, ultimately when you're approaching a guy, you want to break down. And in that breakdown, you can try to punch, but there's no way you can punch and then wrap up in game speed. Slow down, it looks very easy to punch
Starting point is 00:12:00 and then maybe get your arms around the guy, but it's really one or the other. I think you have to make that decision before you get there, and you pretty much in your mind know if you're going to go for the ball or if you're going to wrap up. So it's football IQ,
Starting point is 00:12:12 because from what you're, you're saying, it is football IQ, because I would rather, you know, pause, get the sack than try to punch it and miss it. Because you can't you wrap them up and they still punch the ball out, right? There's a way for while you're wrapping up, you can either intentionally or accidentally punch the ball out as you're wrapping up. But as far as an intentional punch, there are two different things. Okay.
Starting point is 00:12:38 It worked a lot yesterday. It was going all over the place. everybody was getting the ball punched out. I didn't know the turn was peanut punch, Paul, Saravia, but yeah. It was, it worked a lot yesterday throughout the whole day. Yeah. So before we go to this next game,
Starting point is 00:13:02 I want to get you guys' reaction to this exchange between Trayvon Diggs and Mike Evans, because we saw there was a lot of momentum throughout the whole game. Nick, if you want to play the clip real quick, Mace just want to get your thoughts on this. clip here as you see Mike Evans is checking his jersey to see who that was talking to him. I like that kind of talk. I like that. Like, yo, who is you talking to? I love when you can remind people that, hey, you're not even supposed to be talking to me right now. And when he looks on the
Starting point is 00:13:33 back of his jersey, that's super disrespectful. Whoever he was talking to, you need to see him outside because that was crazy. It was Diggs. Strayvon Diggs. Yeah, that was crazy. He was like, who are you again? You're not Stefan. No, my bad, my bad, my bad. You're in the National Football League, but that's what he was basically saying.
Starting point is 00:13:57 Okay, Cam, thoughts. I loved it too. I loved it, Mike. Because, you know, Mike Evans, I think he's a super great addition to the 49ers, but we know where he was doing in Tampa Bay. And it ain't like he a nigger that can't do that.
Starting point is 00:14:14 You know what I'm saying? I love the fact that he grabbed his jersey and looked at him. First of all, who am I talking to? Let me grab the back of you. Let me grab your jersey first of all, for I even know who I'm responding to before I even respond to you. Nigel, what's your name? I loved it.
Starting point is 00:14:35 I thought it was great. I think we need more of that. I thought it was tremendous. Yeah. And Arabia. Yeah, I love the two. This isn't the first time something like this has happened. And I want to, I wish I remembered which players have done it. But I remember looking at miced up and some of the players who are miced up if they're talking trash to the other team.
Starting point is 00:14:54 They'll be like, who are you? Like, where'd you come from? So I love when they talk trash. I liked it a lot. Yeah. And after, oh, go ahead, Mason. No, that that means that, you know, how you say it? Trayvon Diggs. Trayvon Diggs got it. He got to, he got to go crazy after that. If you're watching this, Trayvon, go crazy, man. You can't have him talking to you. Like, I didn't like that. I liked it because of the camaraderie, but I didn't like him saying that to you. And you, I know you didn't like that. So make sure next time they know your name. But now it's a meme forever. He said, Mike Evan said he genuinely didn't know who that was, because you know, like the helmet stuff, you can't tell.
Starting point is 00:15:32 He was like, oh, shoot, that was Diggs. But hey. I think, I think he wouldn't have known without the helmet. It just be like that. Like, fam, you know what I mean? Like, let me tell you something. You know what I do now? And I'm not talking about competition or anything. When somebody come up to me and be like, yo, remember I met you?
Starting point is 00:15:59 And I automatically just say yes now, just even if I don't remember. Because a memory for them is sometimes not a memory for you. and if you tell them no when you try to convince them no they try to convince you yes they'd be like yo remember you had a white t-shirt out the sun was out it was 68 degrees the light had turned green and then it turned red and he was like nah and they be like oh man I had on a green shirt they just keep trying to get you to go
Starting point is 00:16:32 to remember whatever time they met you or whatever and I know this doesn't relate but I'm just saying sometime I'm memorand for you is not a memory for somebody else I remember I ran down years ago on Greg Popovich I don't know if I said this on the show before and I took a picture with Greg Popovich and if I walked up to Greg Popovich today and be like yo remember you's on 57th street in 5th Avenue and I was like hey take a picture with me he probably won't remember because think about how many niggas run up on Greg Popovich and asked for a picture when he's walking the streets of man hey it's a memory for me it may not be a memory for him
Starting point is 00:17:10 Fair, fair, fair. Shout out Popovich, though. And this was his game off of, them elevating them up from the practice squad. So that's another reason. But he got to go crazy. He got to go crazy. I'm supporting Trayvon. I'm supporting.
Starting point is 00:17:28 The whole thing about it is this, Mace. He not knew. He's with Dallas. He's been around. He not knew? He was mad at me before. he threatened me that's what I'm trying to tell you.
Starting point is 00:17:43 It's not like he's new. He's been around. So they're like he shouldn't know him. He played for dollars for some years for a minute. So that's what made it more disrespectful. Fair. I'm also just team Mike Evans, so I don't know. It was funny, but it definitely was disrespectful.
Starting point is 00:18:02 So take it how you all want it. Okay, so this next game, the Jags beat the Eagles 19 to 17 in London, literally a game that you had to watch until the final seconds because we saw Cam Little secured the win for the Jags from the logo, Mace. What did you think about this ending here in the Jags winning? Man, I was just looking at whoever that running back was, he was just having his way, man. Pause. It's like, y'all score, I score again, then I score again.
Starting point is 00:18:36 It just looked like the Jaguars. they were definitely going to win this game. And when you got the Eagles playing with teams not getting to 30 points, it's kind of anybody's game. But when you lose with somebody hitting that field go from the, like you said, from the logo, it's really heartbreaking. But I'm excited about the Jags being 401. I got to say it.
Starting point is 00:18:59 It's going to be a great football year. I got, you know, the Jags 4-1. I got Kansas City 4-0. It's just looking good for my teams. You know, so that's how I'm feeling today's stat. I can't say the same. I know y'all got a little win, but I can't say you feel the same. But it's great to be here with you guys.
Starting point is 00:19:21 A little win. Great to be here. Wow. Love just great. Great. Camp, Potts. What I do like about this is that, and shout to the jack start on 4-1, of course, they start off to a great start.
Starting point is 00:19:34 Nick Serrani taking the blame at the end of the game And that's what the head coach supposed to do But the end of the day It wasn't even about the motherfucker Of course it's about the field goal But you kicking it I don't know you know You're supposed to cover on special teams
Starting point is 00:19:55 You let the nigger run it back 50 yards off the kickoff With about I don't know how many seconds was left 20, 30, whatever it was, he ran it back off that. I don't know if you kick it into the end zone or let them try to fight for Yardish after you kick it into the end zone. But I was listening to Mike Tomlin talk about this game and he says special teams has to cover. You know the game is a situational game. It's on the line. You're up one point. You don't let somebody run it back like that with 20, 25 seconds left for whatever it is.
Starting point is 00:20:29 You give the kick of the credit, but a lot of credit goes to the person. I don't even know to return his name, but he runs it back for 50 yards. What are you doing? Was that Washington? I don't know his name, but, you know, everybody. Yes, Sierra up the left. Yeah, I do, yeah, thank you, Arabia.
Starting point is 00:20:53 Yeah, you can't do that. Like, special teams pisses me off, man. Special teams pisses me to fuck off because you got one job most of you. some people don't play other positions when you know special teams running backs and sometimes receivers or you know tight as listen stop the fucking run it's fucking 20 fucking seconds left and you let the nigger run it back from the five-yard line to the 50 or six or 40 whatever it was the kicker the deserve the credit but the real credit reserve so
Starting point is 00:21:27 sorry what's his name arabia i won't mispronounce it yesir abdala the real credit go to that nigga. That nigga get the real credit. He get the credit. The kicker finished the job like he's supposed to do. But special teams, you got to cover in that situation, man.
Starting point is 00:21:47 And the coach took the blame. But it ain't his fault. You got special teams coach. You got special teams practice and you have situational football. And they didn't follow through and the Eagles. I don't know where the Eagles are going from here, but it doesn't look good the last three weeks.
Starting point is 00:22:02 and Arabia. Yeah, I completely agree. The Eagles offensive line right now is going through trials and tribulations between injury, retirement, and trades. And so when that happens, your run game isn't the same. Even when Sequin isn't because he's dealing with his own injuries, the opportunities just aren't there. Philly had 22 yards on the ground as a team all game.
Starting point is 00:22:27 22 yards as a team through four quarters and only scored three points in the second half. So I don't even want to make it about what Philly did wrong so much as what Jacksonville did right. And again, Cam took my points completely. This is about defense. Defensively, they had some really special moments and special teams. Yassir Abdullah with this return, there were eight seconds left. And then Cam Little comes, it's a luxury for an NFL team to have a great kicker. It shortens the field and it alleviates pressure from your offense. So shout out to special teams and this Jaguars defense. Okay, so this next game, and I think it goes pretty hand in hand, especially seeing kind of where the Eagles are going. So we saw the Giants and Commanders game,
Starting point is 00:23:06 ended in a tie 2727. I know Arabia, you probably have a lot of thoughts on this as well. But, Mace, I'm going to let you go first. What do we think of this game and then the way the Giants are looking? Man, man, man. If you would have told me that Jamans Winston was going to come out at 300-something yards to Jaden Daniels, $199, I wouldn't have believed it. I know this is Arabia's team.
Starting point is 00:23:33 I'm not going to go too hard on our team. But come on, you can't lose the James Winston, but you can because he's a believer. God was on his side. That's the best way I could put it. When you put somebody of faith on the Giants, God is working with the Giants. I don't know how Nick feels about this,
Starting point is 00:23:54 but God is definitely working with the Giants. And I think that the Giants have a great chance of staying at this pace. I mean, who knows? That's what I would give to this take. But I am kind of feeling kind of sad for Jane Daniels because it's starting to look like that C.J. Stroud thing where you was this quarterback supposed to be promising. He still can be promising, but it's starting to look like that where you're playing good. But losing is not good for a winning organization.
Starting point is 00:24:26 I remember we was talking about Magic Johnson being there and the guy from Golden State actually being a part. of this team and they're just losing too bad we talked about how it doesn't look good for philly it definitely doesn't look good for the commanders to be one and three okay cam i'm gonna say this i think jaden danes played really well coming off of injury um he was smooth he was he did what he's supposed to do um got to realize he was out the last couple weeks he looked really really good coming back off injury but i want to give a round of applause Isaiah Lightley, Malik Neighbors,
Starting point is 00:25:07 and James Winston. Y'all did not, it's none of y'all fault. None of y'all for. Y'all play outstanding, man. Round of applause. And you're right, Statt.
Starting point is 00:25:18 I said that the Giants was going to win this division. And I told Nick, do not come back to him next year after they won the division because he didn't want to be, once Jackson Dart went down. The most important stat for this particular game
Starting point is 00:25:32 for the, for the Giants is zero interceptions for Winston. Now, we know he could get us three touchdowns if you're the Giants. He had three touchdowns last week. Pardon me, they won the game, but he had two interceptions. If he could cut the interceptions out, James Winston is nice, man. He's nice, and he look really, really good. Washington, they didn't play great situational football.
Starting point is 00:26:03 Before we get to situational football, right? James Winston did good. Before we even get to that, James Winston did his thing, like I said, Isaiah likely when league neighbors did they think. Everybody wants to be scatible, scatible, scatible. This nigga, let them up the fucking feeling over, Tom,
Starting point is 00:26:22 James Winston, and all they have to do is run the fucking clock out, but they want to give it to scatible. He get two good runs, start pound the ground, yeah, yeah, yeah. And what do he do? Peanut Punch, Arabis was called a peanut punch the nigger poor peanut punch peanut punch the nigger what are you doing bro all these backflips and all this crazy
Starting point is 00:26:45 w you get people yo bro what are you doing what are you doing they had a good comeback even in the end of the game and the end of the fourth quarter they came back to sending overtime you get up the field with a chance to win the game and this thing he gets peanut punched pause back flip nigg you want to be all over the the place can't hold on to the fucking ball so that's out of the camp scataboo business so further notice but i do want to give the giants their credit now they get up the field they're in scoring range to win the game cam scottaboo turns the fucking ball over then they get on the other side um on defense uh i had this nigger name here pardon me let me get his name for dena wilson
Starting point is 00:27:28 i want to give him a lot of credit that's the defensive coordinator for the giants because at the end of the fourth quarter and then overtime he figured it out he started blitzing blitzing jane daniels and jane's had to get rid of that ball and he wasn't prepared for that blitz and he looked like a damn headlights i'm not going to blame that on day on on on jane daniels but you have to have to have that the offensive coordinator you know these niggas is coming pause these niggas is coming and you couldn't do nothing about it then what happens the last play of the game what the fuck was that arabia What was that? That's what I'm talking about
Starting point is 00:28:04 situational football. What was that? If you were command of sphere, you got to be a livid. Live it. I'm going to pull livid out. You got to be livid if you're a commanding fit. Livid.
Starting point is 00:28:20 What was that? You got the ball in field goal range. It's 12, 13 seconds left. Why are you trying to run a play? Hike the ball, spike the ball, and get the field go. you then off the field.
Starting point is 00:28:34 And then you win the game. If you're a Giants fan, man, listen, you're so happy that it ends in a draw because of what happened with Scatterboot. But if you're a commander's fan, you got to be livid. Live it. If it's another word of Rabia, you let me know.
Starting point is 00:28:53 But if I was a commander's fan, I'd be on fire. I'm good. Go ahead. I'm pissed. I've since calmed down. because since yesterday it's it's I've gone from mad to just kind of numb but you're absolutely right it's situational football in the beginning I'm like jaden why are you running you wasted six eight seconds off the clock whatever it was you can't run here that that's never going to happen but then I'm like okay that's on
Starting point is 00:29:21 coaching as far as clock management as far as letting your team know hey and overtime we have two timeouts and not three coaching has to prepare their players hey here we have to have to to either do this or this. Jaden, if nothing's available, you got to throw the ball out. You cannot run here. And Jaden also in some regard has to have the football IQ to do that as well. But I'm putting more of it on coaching than I am on Jaden specifically, but there is some blame to put around. But I just, like you said, this was very frustrating. You know, DAC, somebody in the building, and maybe we'll get to his head that the Cowboys loss was embarrassing. This was embarrassing. I think this was more embarrassing than the Cowboys
Starting point is 00:29:58 lost to the Bucks. I would say that. I think say that the Cowboys lost to the Bucks was embarrassing is a discredit to the bucks. But this was absolutely ridiculous. Kick the field goal and you win the game. I'm tired of tying these niggas. The last four times we tied anybody in franchise history, the last four times, three of those times were against the Giants. I'm tired to tie them. That other one time was against the Bengals. So we just have to play much better situational football and just be aware of things like the clock and how many timeouts you have. Okay. And so then just looking at the Giants as a whole now, and I think Cam predicted this earlier in the season. He says that he sees them being at the top of division. We're seeing what the
Starting point is 00:30:35 Eagles are doing as well. But Mace, what's your opinion here? How do we see this going? I mean, he might be right because he might be right. There's nobody else to beat. They just beat the Washington, and then the Cowboys are not looking too good. And then you got the Eagles. I don't know. I really don't know about this thing. So, but I definitely think the Giants can win that division. There's nobody they have to be scared of. There's nobody that you think is going to start playing better. You got the Eagles already at two and three.
Starting point is 00:31:11 They're not going to get much better than that. So if they could just keep this pace, like Cam talked about earlier, if you can not turn the ball over Jamon Winston, James Winston, this could be a turnaround year. Who knows, you know? And if you win a game in the playoffs, who knows what they might be. talking about it's new york city man people forget really fast really quick before you go cam do you think it could be or it will be what like a turnaround year for them because you're saying could and
Starting point is 00:31:40 i'm picking up on these words here and i'm like i need a definitive answer i think i think it could because the boy is born again you know he got god on his side i'm gonna go with it i'm gonna go with it i'm praying for him it was a sunday game you know he got a lot of the stars are lining you know we praying for James Winston. I'm going to give them the benefit of the doubt, even though there's no benefit in doubt. There isn't, but still on could, but heard you. Cam, what do you think?
Starting point is 00:32:09 No, I'm going with it. I'm going with it. James Winston, I got my, I got my New York Giant Blue on, you know. I told you all that. Okay. Yeah, I'm going with the Giants. That's why I told Nick, don't come back. And I come back.
Starting point is 00:32:26 You panicked soon as Jackson Dog got hurt. Don't come back, bro. Look, Philly's in disarray. They're just in total disarray. Saquan Barclay's hurt. He's week to week. We already seen the chemistry with Smith and Jalen Hurst the other week where they just look at each other.
Starting point is 00:32:47 Or one's looking away and the other one's looking at them. The chemistry, something's going on with Philly outside of on the field. And I don't know who's fault it is or who they mad at or what the problem is. But something interior that we don't know about or I haven't found out about is definitely going on. Cowboys, the Cowboys are just being the Cowboys. Cowboys, they're not doing anything outside of being the Cowboys. To Mace's point a little early, I think Jaden Daniels played well today. But he's a person, I'm not going to say, I'm not jinxing him and call him RG3,
Starting point is 00:33:24 but he has to stay out of injury for this team to do well. They did well today. Look, it ended in the tie. It isn't like they lost or they won. It entered the tie. So until I see Jaden Darius stay on the field longer, I'm not putting them above the Giants. And you got to think about this.
Starting point is 00:33:45 If the Giants ended up winning this game today, they would be four and one, which they had a chance to win if it wasn't for Camp Scadaboo. Not only fucking Camp Scadaboo now, think about it. Back to special teams. Well, the fucking field goal, nigga, missed two field goals twice that could have made them win before the end of regulation. And in overtime, the fucking nigga missed. Special, yo, you got one job, bro.
Starting point is 00:34:15 You got one job, bro. Kick the fucking field goal, bro. Giants had three chances to win this game. I'm throwing through a lot on Camp Scataboo. but the kicker twice Giants should have won that game Giants would be four and one That's why I want to give a round of applause
Starting point is 00:34:36 The neighbors likely in Winston Because they did what they're supposed to do It's the other fucking phases The run game Get smack in the ground And all this after getting a six five yard run Then you got the field goal kicker I know motherfucker Harbaugh is pissed off
Starting point is 00:34:54 Because he comes from special teams He started with special teams And when special teams Fuck up you know you're a head coach now But you know when you come from something That makes you more mad Like oh who did we recruit this nigga Giants is gonna win this division
Starting point is 00:35:11 My opinion But um They should be four in one right now Which I'll add to that really quick I don't know how to pronounce his last name I'll just be transparent but his first name is Dominic He went undrafted in 2026 And then signed with them as an undrafted free agent
Starting point is 00:35:26 So, yeah, definitely not a good... Yeah, I see why he's undrafted. I see why. He's from Michigan. Oh, he's from Michigan. No wonder. Please, it's too early for this. You ask me who I think is going to win the NFC East?
Starting point is 00:35:45 Yeah, sure, the Giants, whatever. As great of a team as I think the commanders are, we aren't winning games. And that just is what it is. Philly, like I said, is going through trials and tribulations. Cowboys defense is selling. So, yeah, I'll go, John. but, you know, I wonder, just like I kind of wonder what. It hurts.
Starting point is 00:36:01 Does it hurt, does it hurt to say that? Yo. It doesn't hurt to say the giant specific. Like, I don't have an issue with Giants or Eagles, teams or fans. Like, they don't really bother me. It's just the Cowboys who I hate. But it's just frustrating because I really do see great qualities in my team. And who cares?
Starting point is 00:36:21 Because we're still not winning. That part hurts. That part is frustrating. when you see like real special things in all three phases of football and you just can't get right. So that that's really frustrating. That's fair. Be sure honest. No, you said you're not winning games, but there is another team that is starting to win some.
Starting point is 00:36:39 So the Patriots, are they back in the groove? We will discuss after the break. She called this thing about toxic. Four years and counting. Got you feeling like a option. Maybe I'm my own problem, baby welcome back. So we saw a pretty high scoring game for the Patriots after they beat the Raiders, 45 to 17. And we also saw that Patriots beat the bills the other week as well.
Starting point is 00:37:21 So Mace is Drake May, Patriots getting back into the groove. You're not ready to believe it yet. Where's your head at with this? I'm starting to believe that Drake May, he might be back, you know. He got the touchdowns that he was getting. When you can get five touchdowns and a game, game in the National Football League. That's just, that's just premier. That's elite, you know, especially against a hungry team that was in the Raiders, right? The Raiders has been playing
Starting point is 00:37:48 good as of lately. He's going up against a Kirk Cousin that's filling themselves that has been playing great, you know, getting the ball out to the receivers the way he should. They got a good running offense. But it seemed like Drake May has really found his receivers. And now they're starting to, they're starting to gel like they were. last year. You got Douglas. He caught a few touchdowns and he kissing, you know, giving all a praise of God. It was just looking good for them. And I'm happy for Drake Mays because it seemed like just last week, everybody was saying the guy could be a bus and that was a fluke, a fluke season that he had last week. So shout out to him and shout out to this great New England team.
Starting point is 00:38:32 I think they could turn things around. Three and two is not that premiere, but it was one of those they desperately need it. Yeah, look, Mace said it. I'm a dumb it down the way he said. Drake May got tired of niggas playing with his name the last couple weeks. Nicks have been playing with Drake May name like he wasn't the runner up for MVP last year. And he got,
Starting point is 00:38:59 the chat had been going on. It wasn't just last week. Since the season started, Mace is correct. They've been playing with his name. He said it a different way, but that's exactly what he'd been doing. And now he's found this groove.
Starting point is 00:39:10 He had eight different receivers for double-digit receptions. And we have to realize we're dealing with a young quarterback and coming off the success that they had last year, we're in week five, people want to see, oh, they should be four and oh, they should be four and five and no, four and one. Listen, man, real football doesn't start to November. We see where everybody's at right around Thanksgiving or right before Thanksgiving. That's when real football starts.
Starting point is 00:39:40 Us included on this show and every other show we get our job is up here to critique, analyze predictions, think what's going to happen. But it's a lot of football left to be played. And Drake May got tired of niggas playing with his name. And he came out and bust ass yesterday. Now on the Raiders side, we seem to, now we have to think about the Raiders. I remember Arabia caught them the Chrysler 300. And maybe they might be the Chrysler, 300 because two premier teams right they play real well the first three games like she said i have to
Starting point is 00:40:19 give her credit that you run up against the kansas city chiefs which was that game went down to the wire but you go up to new england and get smacked in the face i really want to see where this raider team goes in the next couple weeks because they really might he may have the perfect analogy that they're the crisis three should look good when you pull it off the lot Chrysler 300 look good until you pull it next to a Rose Royce then you realize it's a Chrysler 300 when you're at the light like this
Starting point is 00:40:49 let me run the light man I'm going to run the light man so I really want to see where the raters are going to be out the next couple weeks to see what they look like but I want to give a lot of credit to Drake May because I heard a lot of analysts
Starting point is 00:41:08 the last two weeks saying they don't even trust Drake May. And I was like, God damn, bro. This thing it went to the Super Bowl. I want to see what they say the rest of this week about them. Yeah, the Patriots offense started off pretty slow, but I think we're seeing them really start to find their footing. And that's what happens. The offensive side of the ball tends to take a little bit longer to really pick up speed. Credit to this New England Patriots organization for being kind of like the 49ers this year, having an injury bug as far as really key injuries and still accumulating wins. You have to think right now, May is playing at a high level without AJ Brown, who was his number one target in that first
Starting point is 00:41:45 game. He's pretty much been on IR since day one, essentially. And he's also without Matt Collins, who was his number one target over four games. He's also without his starting left tackle and Will Campbell. He's also without Henderson. There's just so many injuries on this offense with his key starters, and he's still getting it done. Also some really key injuries on defense as well, as far as Christian Gonzalez and Carlton Davis. So shout out to the Patriots for being a well-oiled machine and being able to have injuries, but also be able to come back and get wins. And yeah, this Raiders team does not look like the same team that went toe to toe with the chiefs. So I'd be very interested to see how both of these teams trend over the next few weeks.
Starting point is 00:42:21 And then just regarding the Raiders, because there's a quick snippet actually from Max Crosby talking about his experience basically tackling Patrick Mahomes, because we know that they have this big rivalry that they got going on back and forth. So Crosby's co-host actually asked him whether Mahomes makes a moaning sound. And Max Crosby confirmed it. He said there's no other word, so you can't really pause. But it was a great battle. So what do you think of this shared snippet from Max Crosby talking about, really,
Starting point is 00:42:48 your quarterback base? That's wild, man. I don't know. He is light skin, though. He is light skin. He got curly hair. He might, he might, you know. But the boy is tough when in pause when they come to that football.
Starting point is 00:43:05 but if he's moaned that i don't know what to say about that i got to pass the mic can't say might he's he does it's confirmed who confirmed max crosbie can't be a mite he said it when he said he moaned what does he mean he go is like what's the moan is it a grunt like what is he doing what I got to figure out what you wanted is before I can give commentary. So Max Crosby, if you're watching, please feel free to let us know online that it is what it is. What does it sound like?
Starting point is 00:43:50 So we can give a better, a better commentary, killer. Max, did you tell? Let us know, Max. Camp, thoughts? I'll say this, right. I've seen Max, me and Max Crowley go to the same bank. Super duper pause, Super dupeauce.
Starting point is 00:44:14 That's a big nigger pause, bro. It's for, super four. Listen, I think they're making light out of it because it's Patrick Mahomes. But if he hit you, I think Mason Moore. I didn't want to line step because I definitely was going to.
Starting point is 00:44:39 I don't know what are you saying? You a moaned. I don't know. Somebody hit you. You know, somebody hit you. I'm not singling you. I'm talking about myself. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:44:53 Somebody hit you in your ribs. There's like 6-6-240, 50, 60 pounds of muscle. You don't go, oh, I don't know what. That's what I'm trying to say. That was a good question. What kind of sound are you referring to if a nigga hit you like that? I don't know. That's a great question.
Starting point is 00:45:12 What kind of moan pause are you talking about? Because I think if he hit anybody, they're going to make a noise. Yeah. Yeah. Arabia thoughts here. No, I don't know what to say about this. Again, I don't know what my reaction would be if I'm getting tackled by Max Crosby at full speed coming off the edge. So if he moans, he moans.
Starting point is 00:45:36 If that's his reaction to Max. He moans. He moaned to Max. Yeah, if he moaned to Max, I can't really blame him. But, you know, I don't have too much to say. Fair. Fair. Okay.
Starting point is 00:45:52 Next topic, y'all. So Steelers beat the Colts 34 to 22. Mace, what are we thinking about both teams right now? Steelers and the Colts. This is your team. I'm going to let you go first. It is. Lovely.
Starting point is 00:46:06 First, I want to say, right? when we lost to the Browns, every thought I was ducking. I was not ducking, okay? Just didn't happen to make the topics look. That's not on purpose. It just so happened. The thing about being a Steelers fan, and y'all know I love this team bad.
Starting point is 00:46:20 It's just like a win and then a lose and then I win and then I lose. But how I'm feeling today after watching last night's game, I'm feeling good, okay? Like, I know we're running the offense through Jalen Warren, and he's looking great. He's actually the first Steeler to have 50 plus yards receiving and rushing touchdown in the same game. So he's been doing great in the running and the passing game.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Aaron Rogers, I'm just going to stop. I'm going to stop talking about him. I am. I'm only going to praise. I'm only going to say good things unless he has a really bad game because I think he's finally getting into that groove. And I know I said it's ups and downs and ups and downs. But we're up right now, okay?
Starting point is 00:46:56 That's what I care about. Aaron Rogers is looking really good. We've been two and two in the red zone. Just overall, I think the pieces are meshing. So proud of the Steelers for this win. As far as the Colts, I just think they didn't have. have their best game. I think our defense did really good stopping them at a lot of points, and they're just going to have to make some improvements. But the Colts just weren't off to the
Starting point is 00:47:15 best start, in my opinion. But I'm proud of the Steelers. I'm happy to be here. I'm happy to be here for a win. And you'll also see me for a lose, but hopefully not. Hopefully not much more. That's my thoughts. What's the running back name number 30? He was getting busy. You're talking about Jay Warren. Yeah, Warren. He was getting busy. It's tough. And I like the fact that Enraiser. stands in the pocket. Pause. He takes the hit, not a Matt Crosby hit.
Starting point is 00:47:42 But he paused. He took the hit, which led to Warren getting that touchdown. And then you see him coming again, making a play. So Aaron Rogers was looking pretty decent from my football IQ. And I would like to see him keep this up. I know we give you a hard time, Aaron Rogers. But if you can keep this up, you can bring stat, some happiness. I'm happy.
Starting point is 00:48:06 Papa's stat and everybody else. see her she's excited i like when she's like this so n ron rjors can you do this for stat but it was a two and two game right both teams were two and two when you beat a two and two team you're really just fighting for the same old um mike mike um what is his name mike tomlin mike tomlin 500 they was fighting for the old 500 camp this is this is that chrysler we're talking about and i'm happy you can have a christie You know? Oh.
Starting point is 00:48:40 I can't do. It might be a, it might be a minivan. No. No. No. The Chrysler minivan. It might be a Chrysler minivan. To be niggas two and three and all of that.
Starting point is 00:48:59 That's crazy. No. It could be, it would really be a bend. It's a nice car. You know, we win. We're a solid car. But that maintenance, hey, sometimes. You got to go.
Starting point is 00:49:09 You got to go. But, Kemp, thoughts. Yeah, I've seen all the games today, but this one, I wasn't wasting my time with it. You can move on for me. I ain't watched that shit. I wish I would. Fuck out of here. Watching the Colson and the Steelers' Mid-season.
Starting point is 00:49:24 I ain't watch that shit. I ain't even going to send that. There be no stats to you like I did watch it. I watched every other game but that one. Go ahead, Arabia. I wish I would have wasted my time with that nonsense. Okay. All right.
Starting point is 00:49:37 With that being said, But the Steelers played some of the best offense that we've seen from them all year. And that's the good news. More good news is that Jalen Warren is really stepping up and proving himself to be very valuable given that Rico Dowdle is out with a toe injury. The bad news is that Pittsburgh is really going through wide receivers. We have Roman Wilson, Ben Skoronik, and Michael Pittman, Jr., who's already on IR. So they're going to be looking at this rookie Jeremy Bernard to really step up and make plays.
Starting point is 00:50:02 Also, I think this pass rush is getting paid a lot to do very little. I don't think they affected the game as much as they should have. But at the end of the day, the Steelers got the win in a very tight AMC Northway race, so I can't be met with it. I'm going to ask for one thing. It's just consistency. That's all. But, you know, guys, I'm happy.
Starting point is 00:50:19 And I'm just going to remain happy. So moving on, because I just want to recap Thursday night football real quick, because a couple of things had happened here. And we spoke a little bit about it earlier. We saw Cowboys lost to the Bucks 24 to 16. There was actually an interaction here between a worker who had recorded Dak Prescott in the tunnel. I know Nick can run the clip.
Starting point is 00:50:40 The worker is actually telling Dak Prescott, he's like, embarrassing. So as you see Dak's face here, he looking like, who did it? Told him embarrassing. And then we found out after, I believe there's a second clip, Nick, if you want to play that from the worker.
Starting point is 00:50:53 Yeah. I just want to say sorry to all the Dallas fans, Dak Prescott, etc. I'm the employee that yelled, embarrassing as Dak walked by and looked at me. They let me go this morning. I'm not a Cowboys fan, but, you know, I'm sorry. And if anybody was offended, I apologize. But, yeah, and if anybody's hiring, then, you know, I won't do that again.
Starting point is 00:51:16 So, yeah, sorry. Yeah, as you can see, he got let go. Mace, thoughts on this. That's crazy, man. That man got a family. All he said was what he saw. It was embarrassing. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:51:31 He's going home midweek, you know, not able to have a good Thanksgiving. He's looking for a job now. This is crazy. Just because he said embarrassing. And they were playing embarrassing. But this lets you know, can't play with all black people, man. Especially when black people are in power.
Starting point is 00:51:51 You can't just be yelling out stuff. And that part, I am happy to see that they hold in both coaches accountable. I think sometimes we hold black people accountable and not other coaches. But that's great to see. that, you know. It's great to see that element, but to fire him, no, no, no, no, I wouldn't have fired him. I would have got charged up
Starting point is 00:52:13 to play better. And, Dak, you're a sucker for that. Hey, yeah. Two things for me, two things for me, how do you know that's really the nigger? It's not. Do you know that? That's not him. That's what I'm saying. Thank you, I, thank you. I knew it. I knew it. I knew
Starting point is 00:52:33 It's a trend going on right now. Not to lines that, but it's a trend going on right now. But thank you for confirming now, because I was in my brain. I said, too many niggas play on the internet right now. I said, I knew that couldn't have been that nigger. They'd been like six. And they tried to get a go fund me and all that. That nicket trying to steal money.
Starting point is 00:52:51 I know it was. I thank you, right? I was thinking that same shit. I'm like, because we never seen the nigger it was. So I'm like, is this really the nigger when I'm looking at that clip? I've seen the clip of yesterday. And I'm like, I don't know if this is the nigger. We've never seen the nigger who actually, who actually was on the video.
Starting point is 00:53:15 So I didn't believe that. And I'm glad I didn't believe it. Because now look, we almost up here reporting false information on it is what it is. And that ain't what it is. It ain't that nigger. So we don't know if the nigger got fired for saying that. Now I'm going to go back to Mace. Mace, we're walking out of work
Starting point is 00:53:36 and you tripping full and somebody that works for you says embarrassing. You're not firing them? I know you. The laugh is loud. It's loud laugh. Yeah, out of here. Yeah, yeah. You'll call the nigger a sucker.
Starting point is 00:53:58 How are you hook on me in a sucker? And I know you would do the same thing. You would fire him too, though. You would fire him. But I didn't call the nigger a sucker. I didn't call him a sucker. You were whispering my ear, y'all don't want him back here tomorrow, bro.
Starting point is 00:54:14 You were telling me the goats of the nigger. I don't want to see him here tomorrow. When I come here tomorrow, he better not be here. Yeah, yeah. So how are you called a nigger and all that? And I know you. It's a double standard. He's called a double standard.
Starting point is 00:54:41 I know you would put me right to side. Yo, tell him don't come back tomorrow. I want to see his face. Oh, sad. Oh, man. You're good ahead, man. Well, like you guys, man. Don't know if it's the guy or not, but just the interaction in general is saying embarrassing.
Starting point is 00:55:05 I don't know. You can see Dax face is irritated obviously because they had just lost, but I don't think it's that bad. Like you said, it's if you play bad, you play bad. But people don't want to hear that sometimes. Don't be a- People can't tell the truth no more, Cam. It can't even tell the truth. Yeah, but I dig that, right?
Starting point is 00:55:24 It's like this, right? If they was in a waste stadium, I dig it. Not in my house, right? Valid. I ought to rule. Not in my house. That's valid. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:55:36 Like, yo, I got this thing on Instagram or whatever, right? I let a nigga do some slick shit in the comments sometime if I catch it. You know, it would be Macon. All right, cool. You say some slick shit. You back again saying slick shit, I'm blocking. I'm blocking. You come to my house.
Starting point is 00:55:55 I take my comment section like this. You come to my house. You come in. Yo, I don't like these curtains. All right, maybe you just don't like curtains. You come back into my house. What's the up with the couch? Man, get the fuck out of my house.
Starting point is 00:56:08 Get out, your block. You're not going to keep coming to my house complaining about my motherfucking house. It's my house. Get out and go to somebody else's house and complain. Don't be in my stadium to my embarrassment. If it was a way game, I dig it. Don't be walking past.
Starting point is 00:56:25 Your embarrassing and my crib. Nah, not my house, bro. Kim, how many people you block? $208,000. Oh, right. I knew it was a big number of. 280,000. That's a lot.
Starting point is 00:56:46 It's too many niggas, because it's too many niggins too opinionated, man. Sometimes I'll let you get your shit off sometimes. You're too opinionated. If you want to be a comedian and you're too opinionated. Cool. When you say it's a funny shit, I can snap at school. But the one thing I don't do, Mace, is this.
Starting point is 00:57:04 Don't say no funny shit to me. And then when I go to your page is zero post, zero followers. I can't snap back on you. You're out. You're out. You're doing it from a backup page. I can't get back at you. You want to snap on me, but I can't see your life.
Starting point is 00:57:20 Nope, nope, nope. You're out. I'm letting you do that. If I can't see who you are, if I can't snap back, I'm not doing it. Mind you, people ask me all that. the time, tell him to unblock me, tell him to unblock me. I'm like, dang, like, must not have had a profile picture or nothing, like, if you're just on there saying stuff.
Starting point is 00:57:38 But I guess in your case, even if they do have a profile picture, sometimes they still could get a block. That's a fact. To opinionate it. Like, fam, I don't mind, I don't mind critiquing. I don't mind joking, none of that. But sometimes you go too far and go somewhere else with that. It's two billion other pages.
Starting point is 00:57:58 Go somewhere else with it. I ain't with it. Fair. And I guess real quick before we end, just because I'm curious, Mace and Arabia, do y'all block people? I don't post. So I don't have nothing to block. It doesn't have to be a post?
Starting point is 00:58:09 Like, do you block people in general? It could be a number. It could be anything. Like, you just, nah. I didn't look to see. So I wouldn't have nothing to block just yet. But I would block. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:24 If I saw something and a person was doing something, like Cam said. If you can't take the same fire pause that you're giving people, because I probably would be like Kevin Duran if I was on Instagram and really on every day, I probably would come out of character. Start and then you got a backspace. You're like, no, no, fine. You just say nothing. Okay, Arabia, do you block people?
Starting point is 00:58:49 Yeah, I used to block people a lot more. I don't block mean people, people who are like, oh, you're ugly and you're bad at what you do. I don't mind that at all. That's cool with me. I block stupid people. If you slow, you got to go. If you make comments that are like you just making stupid comments,
Starting point is 00:59:04 like you're not cognitively functioning at a high level. I cannot have you on my page because that's more frustrating than somebody being me. So yeah, I'll block stupid people. That's fair. I might need to take a page from y'all, but I don't block people at all. I just, if it's there, it's there. I don't know. But I might.
Starting point is 00:59:20 I might. That might be a new thing I take from y'all. But y'all, that is all the time that we have for today. Arabia, you know, it's always a pleasure. to have you on the show. Thank you for having me. Of course. Thank y'all for watching.
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