IT IS WHAT IT IS - A MILLION SUBSCRIBER CELEBRATION, NFL REFS ARE WILDIN', WEEK 5 PREDICTIONS & A SURPRISE FOR ARABIA

Episode Date: October 8, 2026

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Come back to Who is What It Is What It is. I'm Treasure Wilson, aka Stat Baby, along with your host, Mace, and Cam. It was good. What's good, man? Ain't shit what's good with you. Man, life is great, you know. So I'm a beach chair right now.

A little calm and collected. About my posture, everything. Yeah, man. Life is good. Good, man. Good to see you today. Yeah, how you doing, Statt? Great.

Can I address the elephant in the room? This is so cool and calm and collected and cool? What is it? Guys, we hit a million subscribers. That's so dope. Super, super, super, super dope. And I think it should be celebrated because they're so cool. Guys, I brought a little surprise.

Just a tiny little token. You hit a million. Just a big congrats. First of all, I look at this, nika. A little surprise. You know, something cute. Oh, so cute. Because everything should be celebrating with cake.

That doesn't look how much. What is that? It's an ice cream cake. It's Oreo. I don't think you guys like chocolate cake. I wasn't sure, so it's vanilla cake. What kind of cake is it? It's an ice cream cake.

It's got to eat it now if it's ice cream cake, course. Yeah, but what kind of cake? It's vanilla. You don't put an ice cream cake here. Ice cream cake. That should go melt. You want to slice it up? Well, I made sure I had the cake-ice-ed-old,

the place and the place and the... Sliced up over it? Everything, you know. Nick, what's so with the... Congrats, yo. This is the way y'all do it? Nick Hattuck. Pause.

Like, oh, it looks nice, though. It does. I know, but you guys set it up right. Come on, man. Listen, this is what I will say, right? First of all, first of all, look, thank you to the fans, man. Thank you to the fans.

Realistically, this is a major, major accomplishment. We want to tell you all, thank y'all for subscribing. And it's a big accomplishment. But I, you know, I can't speak for stat. I can speak for Maston. I definitely speak for myself. You don't got no tape? Look at that, congrats, man.

His silence is strong. I can put it on this side if you don't want to hold it. But it should be able to fit between. My own thing, what I was saying is thank you, but I went platinum more already. Same my first time. I knew you this going to say that. Guys, uh. No, I'm saying thank you for the continuous support from the fans.

Listen, this is a tremendous accomplishment. But, Stack, you platinum there. You went platinum there. You platinum there, Stad, congratulations. You went platinum. This for you, Statt. This really, this really for you. You went platinum one niggas, man.

You win? You look, you're 25 and went platinum more niggins, man. Congrats. I ain't even know, yo, Nick, they say we get a plaque and all that shit. Yeah, you do. Yeah, Statt thing, put on your wall and all that, man. Go put my platinum on these niggas, man. I got mad platinum plaques in the house, man.

You take this one for the team, man. I gave you a war one time they said to me, I forget what the award. And it's up in my crib. Yeah, I forget what the award that was. I'm like, Stad, just hanging up in your house, man. And I did. And I did. That's what's up, man.

Pause. Can I add something to this real? Realistically real quick, thank you to the fans, though, for 30 years of doing this, man. They've been there, done that. I want to add, right, though? Because obviously, thank you guys so much to all the fans that support and watch us

and have been tuned in literally since day one. You guys have seen us, episode one, to now, even when we had our other studio to now, too. I just think it's really dope, and this is just coming for me, seeing that you guys had this idea. Because obviously a lot of people have ideas, but they don't get brought to life.

And I know you guys are like, congrats, that, you know? But like, it's really dope to see people who put things in action. I know you guys said you've been doing this, and I get it. But I think it's a moment that I definitely want to recognize. I want you to finish you saying,

but to your point, not everything works. That too. A lot of things don't work. That too. You don't see the things that don't work. Yes. Thank you. And I know also you guys have been doing this,

but to see your influence, even just from then, even to now. Like there's always going to be replicas. There's always going to be people trying to emulate the formula. But like, you guys really did it. I think that's really dope. So, yes.

Like to me, this is my congrats to y'all. And then obviously thanks to everybody who's just been a part of the show, production, Nick, Jory, Isaiah from Arabia, Trista, Marisse. Like, it's been really cool to see everything to come together. So that's just my two sense. Yeah. And shout out to, um, what's the, man, what, I'll be forgetting names.

Shout out to W. Wiggy. Shout out. I love Wiggy. Right. I love Wiggy. To Kevin. To Cair.

Yeah. Shout to the Miami staff. Yes. Yeah. To the Miami staff. Shout out to those guys. Yeah. Because they actually did set it off, man.

Yeah. That's like, I'm happy people to shout to my man, Keff Spence. Yeah. Shout to Wiggy. Shout to everybody in Miami who helps set this motherfucker off. Yeah. Abram and all them. Yeah.

Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah. For real, man. Smitty. Yeah. Smitty. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you guys, man. I'm glad you brought that up, Mace. Yeah, super, super dope. Because some of them was mad when we left. Like, yo, what's up?

I told me was in it for the long haul. But just to let the Miami staff know this, I was outvoted. I was going to stay in Staten, Mace, said, oh, we want to do Vegas. I'm just telling you. I knew, you know. I don't mind.

I didn't mind it at all. I didn't mind a little bit. I'm just telling you. I'm from Florida. I would have to be. preferred Miami. That's a lie, bro. There was a vote.

I will say there was a vote. I voted. I didn't mind neither way. I didn't mind even way. I didn't mind even way. I'm down by coastal. Fair. Super fair.

But yes, again, super, super thanks to everyone who has supported us. Y'all, today we are joined with our analysts, Arabia. Last, last, last shout. Uh-huh. Kara. Caraba, Kara. If I'm saying her name right, Kara, she's a Spanish lady. who actually designed the logo.

That's dope. Yeah. And did the artwork and everything else for it is what it is. She's the one who came out with the color scheme, to design everything else. So, Cara, if I'm mispronouncing your name incorrectly. But thank you for bringing the vision. Sometimes you have a vision and then bringing it to life.

And shout out the two G's and Bob. Yes. Yes. Oh my gosh. Yes. Absolutely. And honestly, even the people who clip up our clips, repost them.

Like, I know we have a lot of, like, super dedicated fan pages and all that, so we appreciate you guys all. Like, it doesn't go on notice. And it's dope. It's super dope to see. If you're clip for him, just send out was in. See? Just send our portion in, man.

That's all I'm saying. Yeah, don't act like, Maine in that video. Yeah, yeah. I'll be seeing niggas with our clubs with 900,000 views. I'm like, yo, send our wins. Yeah, we're letting you rock. Yeah, yeah. Like, yo.

Don't forget. Yeah. That's saying, niz. Yeah. But thank you all. I'm glad that you brought up the Miami crew. Yeah. Shout out Kev for real.

Okay, y'all. And today we are joined with our analyst, Arabia. And me and Arabia, I don't know why you made this pack that at a millie, we would make a wrap. But she can talk more about that. Arabia, how you're feeling? How you doing? Yeah, where the freestyle is that? Wait, wait, where the freestyle is that?

Go ahead, Statt. Go off. No, I ask Arabia. Arabia, go off. You know what? I will take responsibility because this was kind of like I did put this to the forefront. Me and Stan, and I know the fans are going to be like,

we're to freestyle, we're to freestyle. Don't worry. We're working on it. You just want to make sure that it's good. So we got to work on production. We got to work on lyrics. We got to work on recording. So it's in the work.

We have to. We can't just put out anything. But Mace, we do need the production and all. Like, that's important. It has to be good quality work. Man, you could wrap over somebody else beat. I don't think this is a real cake. It is. It's a literal ice cream cake. Fresh out.

I just got a cake knife, not a real knife. Quick pause. Sorry, Arabia. I can try. You're going to break this knife. You're going to break this knife in the cake. Stad, I think they sold you a prop. Okay, sorry about that, Arabia. You know, we're back. The cake was a little bit of a distraction. As you were saying, I know Mace asked you a question. I want to get back to that before you continue. Yeah, when are you guys rapping? Why won't you start? But you just got to figure out production and this and that.

Don't worry. It's in the works. But I do have a question. You know how, like, the practice squad gets a ring to when you win a Super Bowl? Am I platinum too? Are we, do we all? Can we all be like, oh, we platinum or do practice squad don't get a ring too? Oh, yeah.

Everybody, everybody gets me. You're not on a practice squad. You're on a team. I'm a practice squad. You're down. I just wanted to hear you say it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, man.

Flip farm it's it. Yeah, man. You're not even on the present spot, man. Yeah. You're on the percent down, right? Yeah. RIP OJ, this definitely is like a huge landmark. I'm a huge fan of the show. Like, before I'm on the show, like, I watch the show when I'm not on the show.

So, you know, I appreciate being up here. It's like when a player gets to play for their favorite team, when they get to the NFL and gets a play for their favorite team growing up, that's how this feels like. I watched the show before I was on the show. And again, it's not my days. I'm still watching the show. So thank you all for having me. Mace, thank you for having me, Camp.

Thank you for having me, Statt. And this definitely is like a privilege. And I don't take it for granted. I have a very cool job. Like, this is dope as hell. So thank you for having me. Like when I say that at the end of every episode, I'm not just saying that.

Like, it really is a privilege to be up here. And, yeah, so thank you. No, thank you for your contribution that you bring to the show. week after week because you're very knowledgeable, not only very knowledgeable, you don't take no shit from nobody and you know what you're talking about. So we really appreciate you coming up here.

I'm being short about it. I could go on and give a whole speech about your contribution to the show. But thank you. We actually are doing fans now on Tuesdays, that is? We have fans calling, or is it Wednesday? What days are fans calling? That was two.

Wednesday. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So yesterday we had fans calling and somebody, one of the fans that was asking us questions, his final question was actually for you and wants to know it's 24 too young. Yeah, all 32. Yeah.

I saw that because like I said, I watched the show. And shout out to him. First of all, the fan segment is amazing. I thought they had some really good questions. He was hilarious. Like he had some serious questions, but he had his own flair. He was really, really funny. So to answer his question is 242 young.

young, typically, yes. My last relationship, he was 45. And so I do typically go older, but the one thing that he has going for him is his personality. Like, I love somebody who's funny and charismatic. And so, you know, it's not just about the age. It's about the person, too. It's about how mature you are and how our visions align. But yeah, shout out to him. I thought he was really, really cool. I thought he was hilarious. Yeah, it's not about the age, but you're not going under the age, right? I just got it. Just got to.

It is about the age. It is about the age. Yeah. I got to watch out for us. I'm in the HR, you know. You're right. Thank you for catching that. But, yeah, 24 is pretty young.

But, you know, it depends on the person. Fair. They wanted to know. My friends ask about, especially my homework, they ask about you all the time. I was like, I don't know where he was. answer. So y'all, there you have it. But I also wanted to add to what Cam sentiments were, like, you're just great, you're gorgeous, you're so knowledgeable about what you do. I definitely call you

big sis. So thank you for everything that you've done for this show as well. I want to add that in there publicly because Arabia, y'all, y'all see it. Y'all see it. Okay. So let's get into some football. We're going to discuss the three and one team. So I'm going to ask you first, Mace, which one do you trust the most? Looking at the job. Giants, Raiders, Ravens, Browns, Bills, Bears, Seahawks, and Jaguars. What do we think? That's a good little list, right? I mean, because there's some people on that list you know we don't trust, right?

But then you got the Bears. I think if it comes down to me, I would have to go with either the Bears or the Jaguars. You know, this is Jacksonville, man. You got to go home, Team, Statt. I don't know why you asked me these questions. I think you're trying to set me up. Just want to hear what you got to say. You got to watch the questions from now on,

because I'm starting to hear that. A lot of people are telling me that. Mace, watch the question. Stapby lining you up. I don't. I don't. I'm going with the Jaguars. I got to go with the Jaguars.

It's my goats today. Yes. I don't know. Arabia usually going for a lot of shuffling the cars. I don't know what's going on. I just got to make sure I ain't jumping in Lines stuff. No, no, you're good.

If we're going off the teams you named, trust means history, right? My bad, I'm more. I'm leaning this shit. Trust means history, right? My bad. I'm just trying to laugh. You're trying to be comfy.

Yeah, man. Let me get right. Trust. So you say the trust the most. So trust means history. I'm looking at this list now. And if we're going off the list of people you trust the most,

let me look real quick. because I just had it up on me. I changed my, where I was chilling that. Nick, edit all this dry space out. I'm just trying to get back to the list real quick.

Sorry. There you go. Three, two, one. And I just sit up and all right. Listen, we talk about trust. Trust really means history, right? And if we're looking at, and I got to go with history,

who do I trust the most out this list? I trust the Seahawks the most. It's not even really a hard, answer for me if we're basing the question off trust. The object of every NFL season for every NFL team is to win a Super Bowl. Not to Mike Tomlin, no disrespect to Mike because he's not there, not to be the Pittsburgh Steelers and say we never lost a lot of losing season, not to say we got to the Super Bowl, we almost won, not to say, hey, we did better than last year, the objective goal is to

win in the Super Bowl. Giants, we haven't seen no one in the Super Bowl in probably over 10 years. I'm not sure of a year that was with Plexico, but I'm pretty sure it's 10 years over. Raiders, I can't remember. Ravens missed the MVP every two seconds. Lamar Jackson still hasn't been to Super Bowl. Browns, we can leave them out the equation. Last year, MVP, when we're talking about Josh Allen, still hasn't got to the Super Bowl.

The beers are fairly new. The Jaguars are fairly new. The Seahawks are just one. I know they're missing Walker. but if you're asking me about the team that I trust the most, I'm going off history and I'm going with the Seahawks for now. Do I think they're going to win this year? Seahawks are in the tough.

Look, that division to me is the best division in football. You got to deal with the Rams. You got to deal with the 49ers, even though the 49ers are hurt a lot of time. So I'm not saying they're going to win, but out of these three-and-one teams, who do I trust the most? I'm going with the Super Bowl champs out of trust. Let's make sure we're using the word trust. Okay.

Arabia. I'm also looking at this list. The Giants, Ravens, and Bears starting quarterbacks are dealing with injury in one way or another. Lamar Jackson is kind of up in the air if he's going to play this weekend, but it seems like Lamar is always dealing with some kind of injury. Unfortunately, spoiler alert, Lamar Jackson is my favorite player in the NFL, but I can't ignore his injuries and what his injuries tend to do for his season. And backup quarterbacks actually have been performing very well this season. The record for backup quarterbacks coming in and winning games is great. But it's one thing to come in and play a few games until your starter can come back.

But it's only week five. So when these quarterbacks do come back, we don't know how limited their play is going to be, range of motion and how that's going to affect the entire season, much less the playoffs if you make a deep playoff run. So I'm just going to take them out because of those starting quarterback injuries. The Seahawks are an absolute mess, an absolute mess on the ground. They let K-9 walk, which I thought was absolutely insane. Their rookie who they were going to try to carry all the low paws, ends up getting injured,

Gedarian Price. And so they kind of bring in Joe Mixin. They're like, oh, we're going to sign Joe Mixon. Do the physical. Never mind. We're not going to sign Joe Mixon. There's kind of rumors about maybe Kenneth Gainwell coming over there in that running back room.

So they're just a mess. There's a reason why Kenneth Walker won the Super Bowl MVP and not a quarterback. MVP is damn near a quarterback award. It was the first time I'm running back won Super Bowl MVP since 1998. Kenneth Walker really was the engine that had that offense going. And we see in real time the consequences of really stupid offseason moves by a Super Bowl winner. We think about history and other Super Bowl winners who made crazy offseason moves. And we saw the consequences of maybe Jerry Jones letting Jimmy Johnson walk and him leaving in the impact on the cowboy.

So I really don't see the Seahawks being that anymore. Although it makes a good point. They did just come from the Super Bowl. But I think they're a much different team now, especially without a run game. The Raiders are on a role, but this is what Kurt Cousins does. He has a high ceiling and a low floor, meaning. When he's playing really well, he's playing really well. He can win you games.

He can give you game-winning drives. He's exciting. But then at some point, it rears its ugly head, the downside of Kirk Cousins. He's only won one playoff game in his entire career. And he has his issue. So I'm waiting at some point in the season for Kurt Cousins to Kirk Cousin, basically. The Browns have to prove it. Not saying that they can't, but they just have to prove it.

And the Bills are a playoff team, but it seems like they can't get past the Chiefs. They can't take that next step. They've been to the AMC championship game twice, lost twice to Patrick Mahomes. Lamar's been there once, lost of Patrick Mahomes. So I'm just not sure if I have faith in them to do it. So that really just leaves Jacksonville. They're continuing on their success from last season. They finished the season 13 and 4.

They have the best turnover margin in the NFL. Y'all know how I feel about that turnover margin. So they're doing really good at playing clean football and protecting the ball. I'm going to go with Jacksonville, only because I think of all the teams that were named just now, they have the best continuation from last year and they're trending upwards and we don't know what they're going to do in the postseason, but I would say Jacksonville.

Okay, now you know I'm going to ask on the flip. Yeah, Rabia went with the, she went with my take. She used a lot of words, but when it was all said and done, she said the same thing I said. I mean, it's great. Experts, you know. I don't know. I'm glad I got somebody who's here that see what I see

because, you know, most times I feel like they're running a play, you know? On Jacksonville, let me ask you this, Mason, besides Travis Hunter and, um, it's my long-hand nigger named quarterback. Trevor Lawrence. First they got, like, who's killing over there? I don't have him focused on. I know. I don't know.

I don't know bad. Go ahead. I didn't know what that was supposed to be. I just, because you, I'm just wondering if you know what's going on over there. I wasn't supposed to know the whole team. You know two niggins. I know the chiefs. I know the chiefs.

You can't even five niggins. on the cheeks. You want to bet? He's bet the 7,000 you all. Let's get back to that. I don't bet, but here we go. Holmes, Kelsey, Walker, worthy. You ready?

Yeah, man, wait a month. Worthy, Walker, Kelsey, Mahomes. Guys say Andy Reed. Nicky. No, um, what's the other? A chain. A chain? What's the name?

That's his name. Okay. That's five. That's five? Yeah. Fat, check him, stat. If he's right, he's right. A chain is on the dolphins right now?

It's okay. It's okay. I know that. That's what I said, fact, check him. But it's okay. He having his moment. I said worthy.

He's having his moments. I said worthy. Who else I said? This is the first time I said you do the challenge. I'm like, hey. Worthy? He's a same. He's a same.

He's a send. Kelsey. Kelsey. Walker. I'm forgetting a wire receiver. Rice. Thank you. Yeah.

You're ascending. Rice. Mace, you didn't, this is your second tier to the test. That's fine. You just said the nigger on the Dolphins. That's fine. We let you come back and take the class again.

I didn't look nowhere. Well, Stent you're part of the organization as far as we heard, man. Rice. There you go. I was forgetting one of the wire receiver. If you're going to take your SAT twice, it's okay. You can take the SAT twice. So did I pass it or not?

Is that far? players or not? You named five players. Okay. Did he pass those stats? You know, maybe not an A, but it's considered C is passing. Yeah, I pass. C is passing. Congrats. You're definitely having your moments this season, man.

You're having your moments, man. I'm proud of you, man. Congrats. Okay, let's take it on the flip before we roll this. next clip that we got. So I know you guys talked about the team that you trust the most. Looking back at that list, which team do you trust the least? Wow. Okay, so we're looking at it's definitely not the bears that I trust the least.

Let me look at this list again. Name the teams you have. Giants, Raiders, Ravens, Browns, Bills, Bears, Seahawks, Jags. I would have to say when it comes to the teams that I trust the least, I would have to go with either the Giants because of the hurt, quarterback, you know, not having a history or, you know, the history to put up wins with James Winston. Then you go down to the Raiders. The Raiders, I like them better than the Giants. The Ravens, I like better than the Giants. It would have to be between the Browns and the Giants.

If I had to pick one, I'm going to say the team that I trust the least. Can't say the Giants because I got it on my blue, but I'm going to go with the Browns. Okay. Cam? To me, to me, it's pretty easy. My choice is evil, pardon me, Baltimore or the Bills. The reason I say I know people are like, how you don't trust the Browns, how you don't trust the Giants?

Raby, I don't know if you know I told Nick he can't come back because I said the Giants are going to win the division. and we've been looking good since I've been saying that me and my niggins Wednesday. You might want to be Jackson Dart out. I don't know we're throwing a lot of interceptions. Jane Daniels might as well just get the elbow ready for next season. The reason I pick, the reason I pick Baltimore and the bills is when you have a healthy Patrick Mahomes,

and this is all contingent on Patrick Mahomes be healthy, Josh Allen and Arabia's favorite player Lamar Jackson are just not going to win. It's like Charles Barkley Mace, right? It's like Reggie Miller. It's like Carl Malone. You played in the Michael Jordan era.

If you didn't play in the Michael Jordan ever, y'all probably were the one championships. But these niggins is in the Michael Jordan area. Unfortunately, even worse, y'all are in the same conference. not even in the NFC. Y'all are on the same conference. Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson,

the boogeyman is back. His name is Patrick Mahomes, and if he stays healthy, they're not going. Those are the two teams that I put combined at a tie for not trusting the most. Not saying they're not better

than any of the teams that's in there. So we're saying they're not saying they're not better than the Giants. I'm not saying they're not better than whatever other teams I don't have to listen in front of me, but I don't trust them if Patrick Mahomes is healthy and Andy Reid is alive. Okay. Arabia. I want to go with the bills.

And the reason why is because they've had four opportunities in the Super Bowl and never got it done. Even when they're really, really good, even when Josh Allen is playing at his best, even when they get all these regular season accolades and everything is just great. Everybody's so hype on the bills. they still can't get past the Chiefs. They still can't get to the Super Bowl. So it's one thing to, I mean, and to be fair, the Browns also haven't won a Super Bowl.

The Jaguars also haven't won a Super Bowl. But we don't have the same, we haven't seen them be really, really extremely great teams, you know, recently yet. So even at their best, their best is still not good enough. So I would rather see a team really get right and trend upwards and see how they do if they get to that point. I want to see Trevor Lawrence.

and what he might have to offer against the Chiefs in the AMC Championship game. Hey, you never know. You never know. So I'm going to go with the bills. Okay. In the comments, I'm below. Let us know what y'all think. So next, before we get into our predictions for this week, there's actually some things going on with two referees who were suspended by the NFL

for misconduct with players on the field during the week four games. So line judge, his last name is Seaman, was caught on camera appearing to curse at Trey McBride after a non-call and then ref Adrian Hill was yelling and gesturing at Vikings Eric Wilson the problem here is that the referees association thinks the suspensions are excessive and inconsistent gun to roll the clip so you guys can see here kind of what's going on and after seeing this mace want to know your opinion what do you think I can't see what the rest back there yelling cursing at him oh look at that one oh yeah Okay, so Seaman was issued a two-game suspension.

He'll receive a one-game suspension. Do you think that that's excessive and inconsistent or pretty like it needs to happen? I think when it came to the first guy, I really wasn't able to see what he was doing, but if he was cursing him out, you know, then he should receive that two-game suspension. But the second guy, it looked like they ran him over, and they was trying to do it. From this point of view, it may, from his point of view, it may look like they did it on purpose. So that one I don't agree with. I think the second one was uncalled for a little excessive.

But the first one could be definitely something that you do, especially working in HR. You got to protect the people that work for you, you know. So if the people that work are the NFL and the referees are doing something to harm those players, then you've got to definitely recommend that. But I think people curse at the players all the time. I meant the referees all the time. Isn't that correct?

Yeah. So they do, on the other flip side, they have to be able to protect themselves. Yeah. Okay. Kim, what do we think here? Stop crying, everybody. Joey Crawford, he's a referee. I don't know we keep jumping from sport to sport.

That nigger was a referee in the NBA, and he probably, I've had to guess, maybe 5, 7, 5, 8. He told Tim Duncan in the middle of the game, let's just go outside and settle it right now. What you want to do? Let's go outside suddenly in the middle of the game. So, look, I think it isn't just about the referee in there. I just think we're in a tender society to where this is a topic. And I think it's fair because if you yell at the refus, say profanity to the refraff,

you're going to get suspended. But where's the leeway at? I would say we're just an intended society. But I do think it's fair as well because you can't say that to a referee. So for a referee to say that to you, it wouldn't be fair. Nobody's nobody's father in the game. What did he say to him? Nick said he says, fuck you.

I don't know. I couldn't hear the shit. Do you think the players ever say that to the refs? Probably all the time. I think that the superstar players get away with a lot. Yeah. Because they tell them, look, the people came to see them. So they might take them up once

and the superstar players sometimes to me go over the board, overboard, like, yeah, and then what they do is you get you get somebody kicked out the game, first quarter game now seven years and the crowd said, blame it on the ref. Blame it on him.

Yeah, and real quick before you go, really, just even an example, I mean, it happened in WMBA. Candice Parker was on the sideline, and Caitlin Clark goes, if you thought this was, like in the middle of a play. So I know it happened. all the time. But Arabia, give us your thoughts on this clip. Yeah, I think this season, the referees have negatively impacted the product that's on the field. I know people like to

talk about the pacification of the NFL and how things are getting solved and how we can't do anything these days. But the referees are really out of hand. This season, we are number one, the most flags in over a decade. Through these games so far, 17 touchdowns have been called back through the penalties. This time last year, it was only five. And the year before that, it was only four. Riffs are being very, very flag-heavy. We don't want to have this dominant referee presence in a game. We also wanted to be fair. Now, I'm going to get into my conspiracy theory bag. I know I love a good conspiracy theory. Alan Eck, who is a head referee in the NFL. Alan Eck, he has refereed a lot of Eagles games, a lot of NFC East games. When he referees Eagles games, the Eagles are

eight and two. When he referees any other games in the NFC East, those teams are three and six. The Eagles have less penalty yards. They tend to score more points. They just perform all over better than their counterparts. Where is Alan Eck from? He's from Williamsport, Pennsylvania, which is about three hours away from Philadelphia. Do I think it's a coincidence? It could be, but I think it's a pattern, something that's worth investigating. What's the NBA referee name? Ten Donagie. If Tim, that's his name? Is it Tim Donagie? If he was able to do, do it. I'm 100% believe that there is no exception for the NFL and some of these referees performing their duties in nefarious ways. So yeah, the referees this season have been absolutely

horrible and it's hard to watch. Hey man. Hopefully they'll figure it out. So moving along, we're going to get into our NFL preview. So we know the Jags will be playing the Eagle and they'll actually be playing in London. So Mace, what do we think of this international game that they'll be playing, do you think it's good for the game, not good for the game, and who we predict wins? Who they play? The Jags are playing. Well, you're team-ish, I guess. Just rep in the city.

Repping the city. Jacks will play the Eagles in London. What do we think? Yeah, I mean, it doesn't make sense to me. I'm standing on what I'm standing, where I'm standing. Before I kept talking about how in the NFL, it's the National Football League. Now they're trying to be international. I'm not for it.

You know, I prefer the games be played here. They're flying over there. People are going to be tired. That becomes an excuse why they lost the game. You know, all of the excuses. I'm hearing a lot of excuses this year. More than I've ever heard that is what it is. Maybe it's because we're 4 and 0.

But, you know, I want to hear what you guys got to say. You're not talking about my teams yet. Okay. I think what Mace said a couple weeks ago was correct. Like to me, and when we talked about the other day, when we was talking about

the world's most popular sports and football isn't in the top three and I think that Roger Goodell is noticing that. When you got cricket is number two. Mace, who's top three cricket players again? I can't. I just ask you know him. You know him.

I just ask for a reminder because you... Not ever. It's not everything. I'm just asking. Who are they again? Because I forgot who they were. I forgot personally. Vodaf.

Varak. Varach. Varac. This is not my battle. It's Varan. We'll come back to him. You didn't have a name. I see what you're trying to do.

I'm just saying. You know. You know him off the time. Barack and them niggins. But I think, seriously, I think Roger Goodell is noticing we're not, let's put, look at them, don't go in, do not. I'm not doing that computer, bro. I'm here today.

I'm here today. Do not move on fingers. Do not move on fingers, bro. I'm actually looking at, I'm going to take, I'm doing my take pause this way. I'm not looking at the chair. Yo, I got to cut the laughing there too. You, word tomorrow. Somebody did a meme, and they had us laughing.

And me and you're laughing. And they just, they said, we had, I'm into my fourth hour work. And it's just us laughing. They just show him. Niggins said 10 a.m. 11 a.m. 12 p.m. After lunch, he says, too much laughing. I can't help that we are having fun up here.

So sorry if it's, I'll see what I can do. But on a real note, I think Roger Goodell notices that football is not in the top three sports in the world. And he's trying to go globalize it. But I agree with what May said a few years ago. It's called the National Football League. You can't get a team in Australia and make it make sense. London, if you want to stretch it, six-hour flight and try and make it make sense. But it's nine hours from the West Coast.

Maybe Canada. Brazil? Yeah. We got a basketball team in Canada, but these niggas ain't even playing in Canada. These niggas is going across the seas most of the game. I think that they're trying to globalize the NFL, which is not a bad thing. But I bet you if you ask those players, they're not getting to really experience the countries that are beautiful countries they're going to go see. But they're there to play football, so they're not really enjoying it.

This is more to build the NFL brand. But I'm standing on what May said a few weeks ago. How is it going to make sense if you're not trying to get it to? team there. You're globalizing. And I'm not saying the NBA is because they do a couple games a week, but a year par me, I agree with Mace from two weeks ago, three weeks ago. I don't think the players like it. I didn't even see the fucking commander's game last week. I didn't notice you came on at three in the morning. It's fucking ridiculous, man. But I get it. They're trying to globalize the game. I don't think it's beneficial for the players, though.

Okay. Arabia. Yeah. As far as like a business standpoint, I totally understand. this global push for the NFL, but as a fan, I'm cool. I don't feel the need to see my favorite team in Melbourne. I don't really think as a fan, I want to wake up at 6.30, 9, 30, 8, 30 in the morning to watch my favorite team play. I'm cool on these international games. The Jaguars have played 14 international games. The next most is the bills at eight international games. And for the first time in NFL history, the Jaguars or any team in the NFL, for that matter, will host back-to-back international games. They're going to spend two weeks in London playing those two weeks in London

international game. So, you know, as far as the actual game goes, I don't know if we're, are we doing predictions stat or are we just doing how we feel about it? You can do your prediction. Okay. So as far as the actual game is concerned, Cam Juergens was just traded from the Eagles to the Raven. So that is sort of part of their rotating offensive line struggles. Sequin is dealing with the hamstring injury. They just have a lot going on offensively. And I want to be careful about how I talk about Lane Johnson. Because Lane Johnson, Lane Johnson is dealing with sick parents.

One of his parents has cancer. The other parent is sick. And so he's decided to retire. And I've seen the discourse about Lane Johnson in national media, and I think it's absolutely disgusting. So I hope that Lane Johnson and his family are doing well. But as far as this game,

I don't see the Eagles getting right with all these offensive troubles in London. I'm going to go with the Jaguars in this game. Stath and broke the game. y'all that's crazy don't don't get a plastic cake cutter that's all I'm going to say I broke the whole thing but the cake still looks great next game Mace the Raiders will play new edition we're gonna we're gonna count these predictions and check to see who is

correct so just need your final prediction um Mace Jags or the Eagles Jacks or the Eagles. Where they're playing? In London. I'm going with the Jacks. Okay. Going with the Jacks. Y'all want to keep count.

Yeah, that's a good question. It depends on the- He's going to go with the Eagles. He's going to? Devonthe. You playing? Or is he hurt? Oh, injury status.

Because last week he ain't playing. Yeah. I don't know if that nigga had an attitude for the week before when nigg was looking at a lot. him on the sideline and all that. Is he playing? If he's playing, I'm going with the Eagles. If he's not, I'm going with the Jacks.

I'm trying to, yeah, he's in doubt. You're in doubt going to jacks. He didn't practice Wednesday. I don't like the way the Eagles is looking. They're not looking. Fair. They're not. Super, super fair.

Okay, Mays. Seahawks will play the 49ers. Are these the teams to beat in the NFC West? What do we think here? Um, I think, I think when it comes to the, um, the 49ers, they're playing really good. They're 4'0 as well. And they're playing the Seattle's. Mm-hmm.

I'm going with the 49ers. I got to go with the 49ers. Okay. Cam. Who looks better? Who's going to win? Well, your prediction won. And then do you think that these are the teams to be in the NFC West?

My prediction. Arabia just said, that the Seahawks look terrible. They got the same record as all the motherfucking niggins that she liked. Yeah, but I'm not a record. You gotta watch games.

Two teams can be one and three, but one team could look really good and one team could look good. I'm sorry, the camera went to me. I wasn't sure the camera solo shot on me. So I thought it was maybe my time. You hit a phone away. You hit a phone away.

I don't even... I can't even hear her. I just say, me... Blah-lo-lo-lo-lo-lo-lo-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l-l. They put the camera on me. She said, put the camera on her. I didn't get it, fine, no problem.

I knew anger management wouldn't last long. I knew it went to last long. I got triggered. She got triggered. No problem. She's talking about, hell. They look a mess. They got mixing.

You know, motherfuck up. My dude. My motherfucker Baltimore and Lamar Jackson. They got the same record. If the Seahawks look so bad, why they got the same record? With only one loss, starring quarterback.

I know they take Walker away, but if they haven't been looking that good and they're still three and one, imagine how much better they're gonna look. Yeah, that's crazy. Yeah, pause, pause, pause, man. No, I was just saying. Oh, I ain't know, I ain't even know.

How about to say you ice cream cake? I don't know what the fuck is. You can no more. Everything's fucking crazy. Answer the question, the prediction for this week. 49 has been looking good. Yo, listen, I was really impressed with that run Kittles did last week,

coming off the injury he came. I'm like, yo, this thing is running faster than all these niggas. Then he just come off the fucking Achilles injury, if I'm not mistaken. Damn. I'm going to go with the 49ers. I like the 49ers. Are they the team to beat in the division? That division is up for granted.

Listen, if the 49ers stay healthy, they are going to be the team to beat, but they never stay healthy. The Seahawks, I don't know. When is Mous Garrett coming back? Is he coming back this year? Because if he's coming back this year, I say the Rams is the team to beat. I say the Rams for the team to beat to win the Super Bowl this year, my prediction actually. But we got to see if health is happening.

We don't know what Pookie, man. We don't know what kind of these things be taking off. And I don't want to belittle diggers taking off. I don't want to belittle mental health, alcoholism, whatever. Is these injuries? May some accent. Is alcoholism, all that injury? Yeah.

It's injury? It's an injury. All right. Because I remember you did a take Nick, and if you want to go to the clip, we cut it at the break. And Mace, one of his best takes on this show ever. He gave a big shout out to mental awareness,

how serious it was. And then after he did that, he said, but that nigga, crazed. It's one of your best tastes, actually. So I know that you're helping people out with these problems, so I don't know how far of an injury it is. I'm not going to take it for granted. But I'll say this, man, if you got a healthy L.A. Rams.

L.A. Rams is my prediction to win the Super Bowl of Pookie's playing. and if Malgarz is back. Aaron Donald stays on the field. I like the ramp, so I'm not going to say that either one of these teams that team to beat, but there's somebody to talk about. Okay, and Arabia. Don't put the camera on me if it's not my turn to talk

because this man will talk about, oh, I'm line stepping, but the camera all in my face. You can tell us, I'm not. But, you know, this. Look at them, Arabia. I can hear you from it. She made a third point, though. She said if the camera's on her face, she's going to speak.

He's saying he can't hear you. That's okay. I don't need him to hear me right now. Because Nick heard I talking. So how it works as a switchwater. That's not true. I thought it's talking after the camera got on my face. Rabia, if you didn't know the camera's on your face, the whole show,

it's about when they switch. It's a camera on your face. And that's what I'm talking about. Don't switch to Arabia's full shot. I'm going to the Seahawks'N-N-ers game because y'all get my temperature up. I'm going to go with the 49ers. I'm going with the 49ers. And do I think that the 49ers and the Seahawks are the team to be in this division?

No. There are so many reasons why a better team could have a worse record than a team that's not as good as them, especially if they're in a better division. And people are just beating up on each other. They got to face better opponents. That's six games out of the schedule. if you're in a really good division top the bottom. So, yeah, looking at the Rams record,

they have the same record of some other really bad teams. But I think when it's all said and done at the end of the season, I think the Rams will finish higher in their division than the Seahawks. So, no, I don't think it's the 49ers in the Seahawks. I think it's the 49ers and the Rams that are the two teams to beat in the NFC West. So, yeah, but I'm going 49ers. Okay. And May you guys' faces are cracking me up.

I already said I was going with the 49ers. But I like it back. ground, Arabia. Why do you have two Atlanta Hawks helmets there? I have a few different teams. Yeah, yeah. These are some of the help my son's father's helmets. Okay. All right. So why is there two of them? Okay. So the Raiders, they'll play the Patriots. Patriots are two and two. Mace, how do we feel about Drake May and like there's a discussion now. People are trying to say like last year was a fluke, but what's your opinion on and who do you think wins this game, the Raiders or the Patriots?

Well, I'm going to start it. I'm going with Kirk Cousins, Paul, until he turned into the Kurt that Arabia is saying will eventually show up. Right now, the boys on a row. I got to go with Kurt Cousins, you know. He's the first white boy I saw hit the doggy, Paul. So I got to go with that, you know? You know, we let people in the culture when they do stuff like that.

So I got to go with Kurt Cousin. and especially Drake Mays. I think last year wasn't a flute, but it's harder to play when it's your second year, right? The first year, there's no scouting report that's really assessed where you truly are. You get to take people by surprise. Now everybody's on to how he plays

and how to prepare for him. Now teams are preparing for him. That's all that's really happening. But I'm going to go with the Raiders. I got to go with the Raiders. Okay. First, why boy just hit the? Dougie?

Okay, Cam. Gravia doesn't like Kurt Covens because he came and stuck up the Redskins or the commanders or whoever. Took all their money and said, thank you, goodbye. Still beefing over, still being mad about that because now he's doing good. This is the Kirk Cousins we did.

Yeah, all right, this is what he did with the Redskins. Took all your money and said, thank you for your money. Because y'all niggins tried to, you know what they try to do? Franchise that tag, that thing. I like Kirk Cousins because he's You used that franchise tag to his advantage. Drake May, look, man, Drake May was in second place last year for the MVP candidate.

And what happens is that's the highest of the high. So if you don't play to that standard, they're like, oh, if you fell off, he's not looking good, this time and third. You got to think about it. It was scandals with they had coaching the offseason with all type of bitches and everything else. I think that they won a really good game talking about. the New England Patriots last week that could possibly get them on a role and see where they're at during the season. See where they're going this season.

We'll see this week. But I like Kirk Couss. I'm a Kirk Cousin fan, man. And I think he played really, really well against the Raiders. I mean, pardon me, against the Kansas City Chiefs last week. I'm going to pick the Patriots to win, even though I want the Raiders to win. But the answer for me is the Patriots. Okay. And Arabia.

Yeah, so both of these teams are coming off a game against teams in their division who people are widely considering contenders. And they both play very, very well, although one had a win and one had a loss. I'm going to go with the Patriots because I think this Patriots defense has the capacity to really give this Raiders offense some trouble. So because of that defensive competitive edge, I'm going to go with New England. But I think it'll be really interesting to see how Las Vegas responds to this. loss. We clearly see that they can be one of the most productive teams on offense in the league. So I wouldn't be surprised if the Raiders won, but I'm going to go with New England because of that defensive competitive edge.

Okay. So we are going to tally up and see who is correct when we come back. I'm winning. Anyway, right now on the list. I'm actually up. I'm actually up already. So tally up for next week. Oh, you know, all I got is that, let me tell you a cheek because how you win the whole shit from here, right? Okay. Just keep picking with Mason Arabia because if they win or lose, my record's already better than them.

So that's what I think I'm going to do the rest of the year. And that way I already won. A loophole. Like, how do we find a loophole? I'm just going to keep picking every team base picks and every team he doesn't pick and I already won for the whole season. So y'all can just give me the choice.

Trophy there. Mace doesn't disagree. Oh, man, we got to figure something out. Got to be quicker than that, literally. Okay, well, we'll see what happens. You know, hopefully it'll be a fair race. But like Kim said, that's his strategy. But it might change.

You never know. No, I ain't going to do that. But I'm just telling you, that's the type of shit. I could, though. Like, what's my thinking? That's how you, you know? That's how you do it. Okay.

We're going to go to break, and this time we're going to roll that clip that Cam was referencing, so don't go anywhere. First, we'll say here at, it is what it is. We take mental health really seriously. So everything we're about to say is just our overall view of the situation. Don't take any of this and try to use it against the show. But I say all that to say, that niggard crazy. Yeah, there's no way you're going to get on there. I did put the disclaimer out there. Yo, if you get...

Yo, this thing is crazy, man. Yo. This nigger makes this support. That is not what I was in. He definitely put the disclaimer. You know what I'm saying? If you think about it, right? Yeah.

If you see somebody right now crying as a football player that could be potentially labeled as mentally, you know, not present, and he start crying and making references to Aaron Hernandez, that is serious. I mean, that's nothing to play with. So it's like, and the reason why I jumped out there with the crazy comment, because sometimes you need somebody to tell you, you bugging right now. Welcome back, y'all.

So today we've got a special guest. We got Oshaki Foster. He's 25 and 3 with 12 knockouts. And he has an upcoming fight against Emmanuel Navaray on October 24th. Shock, welcome back to the show. How you feeling? Hey, what's the? What's the deal, man.

I'm feeling good. How y'all doing? What up? Shock long time. You been all, nigga? Hey, what's the deal, man? You know, still busting the ass. I see, I see you out there, man.

Listen, man. Hey, yo, listen, me, you know why I fuck with you? Because you don't take none of this shit personal. You go out there and you just say, let me prove all these niggins who talk shit wrong about me. With that being said, do you think you're going to win? Because that nigga came out to get... The birthday, I'm pronouncing his name correct?

Because I know what the fuck is. I just don't chop people's name up. Navarette. I don't want to say it wrong. How you say his name? Navarette. That nigger said you better not run, nigga. And you're talking about, oh, we're just going to box it out.

I'm going to fight. Are you going to run? I didn't like your response to that. I'm just going to tell you. I didn't like it. I didn't like his stupid. Hey. Hey, did I run for him?

No, you did I run for him? Did I run from Ford? No, no. Hey, I don't do no running. But, hey, see, what I ain't going to do is I ain't fin to get caught in another man's game. This shit, Chess and our checkers. He's talking about he wants me to sit there and bang with him. That ain't my style.

But, you know, we're going to mix it up and get to business, but it ain't going to be no running for sure. Okay. Because, you know, I like this response better than when I heard before. I wasn't comfortable with your original response. Your fight against Raymond Ford, right? You end up pushing him out the ring and he goes out the ring. Some people are saying

that had an effect on the fight. What do you have to say to those people that say it had an effect on the fight? I mean, you know, boxing if you feel like that had an effect on the fight. I mean, we train ourselves for 12 rounds fights. We train ourselves for anything that go wrong in the fight.

We should be able to, you know, we're standing and come forward. That's why we put our body through what we do in training. That was an unfortunate event. I don't know how that happened. Shock, shock. Hold on, man.

Hold on. Shock, shock. This is shit with you, man. You might be from the other side of Harlem on the lo. We would be arguing for a day. You trained to fall out the ring, nigga? So you, yo, let's fall out the ring and prepare for that. Anything you have to push me out there.

What do you mean you trade for anything? I know it's guards yourself at all time. You don't train to get pushed out the ring. Come on, my nigga. Nah, but, hey, you train for anything that can go wrong in a fight. You should be able to. Like, you know what I'm saying? Shit, I've seen people fall out the ring before.

Like, Bernard Hopkins is a couple people, you know what I mean? No, no. It's been a knickers who fell out the ring. You're right. You correct with that, absolutely. You feel that me? So, you know. All right.

Now, let me ask you this. Did you, so you beat, you beat, Ramanford, Chakor said if you beat him, Raymond Ford, that is, he would fight you. Why do you think that's not happening and why you think he's not out of his word or do you think that he thought you wasn't going to win? What's your opinion on that? I feel like he thought I wasn't going to win and, you know, I called his bluff. He didn't think I was going to fight Ray Ford.

He thought he was just going to, you know, keep putting him in my way as far as Storn his name my thud, and he can deflect the fans from me and him fighting what I called this bluff. And you know, I told y'all, you know what happened? Dude's scared. And he's showing y'all his real character with the demon situation. Dude is just a scary dude, bro. He's trying to say that. Oh, I don't really know what it is.

The dude just ain't got no heart, bro. But you don't give your word to a man and let him beat up your little homie. And then you ain't got nothing to me. respond about you talk about I was a Pader now like a day I thought Ford was like this next coming now he ain't shit like

it's crazy man let me ask you do you think because you're still moving up and wait and these guys are a little heavier than you why aren't you think the losses that you suffered early in your career I ain't going to say suffered because we know that you wasn't

for the people that don't know you got focused even though you were boxing you became focused more recently than your earlier years. You went to jail, et cetera, came home. Do you, why don't you think your name is mentioned when they talk about the Shakor's, the Devinhanes, the tanks? What do you think is preventing that? Do you think it's more work to do or they just don't want you in the equation?

It's definitely more work to do, but I think the, uh, the three losses, uh, it, it, it has the illusion of, you know, they got their oath still. So they're looking at me with the three losses and they, you know, just, you know, the fans and, you know, Floyd, the way he talked about the old, you know, just all that. I feel like that's a big thing. And if you, if you watch it, I ain't had no cosign. Like, nobody had to come out and co-sign me for me. I had to fight my way to this position. So I think that's a big thing, too.

Like, they got cosigned for Floyd Mayweiler. They got cosines for, you know, these guys that's ledgers in the sports. So, you know, naturally the fans going to. follow, I feel like. How long are you planning on sending on $130? I ain't going to lie. I'm trying to go undisputed. At first, I was going to get up out of

here. I ain't going to lie. I was going to go straight to 35. I mean, if I ought to get that fight with Chicago, I would win straight to 40. But I'm trying to go undisputed, clean out the division. Hopefully I can get longer for the last belt, and then that'll solidify me moving up and, you know, taking over.

After you go unified, if you do, God willing, what's next? after that. Who do you want? What's the big fight that you won? I know we talked about Shakur. It doesn't look like that's going to happen. What would be another big fight for you? Is it at 130? Is it moving up to 135? Do you have to move up two-weight divisions? What's next for a big payday or big fight for Shaki? It would be either Kakachi, who got the last title that I would need to go undisputed or Lamachinko. He coming back. He wants to.

He want to come to 1.30 and, you know, try to go undisputed. I don't know why he think it's sweet, but I definitely would welcome that as a huge fight, you know what I mean? What you mean why he think is sweet? I'm missing something, tell me what's going on, maybe late to the party. I mean, dude, been retired, and, you know, he was at 35, now he's coming to 30, talking about he wanted to go undisputed, and, you know, he wanted to win him in Everett. It's like, damn, I bet. He must think something sweet for real. You know, I would love to, you know, take that challenge on.

Right. What did you actually go to jail for when you did go to jail? It was a temp. It was a temp, but then they dropped into aggravated assault with a deadly weapon. Now you just use your hands, son. I mean, oh, my God. I'm proud of you for that. I'm proud, no, I'm proud of you for that, man.

I'm proud of you where you took your hostility to the ring, man. And you're doing, you know, I'm just fucking with you. No, I'm sure. No, seriously, though. That's a tremendous goal, especially where you're at right now. That's the one laughing. I'm sorry. Like, what?

Like, where did that come from? Where that came from that? That nigga is a certified. I ain't gonna say it, but... That nigg-a-k-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch-ch. I think he took it to do with his hands, man. What did you think about the Connor Ben and Ryan fight when you seen that? If you were Connor, what would you have done differently?

I mean, Connor, I mean, I would have had an amateur career, and I would have started boxing earlier if I was kind of. I think he started boxing when he was like 19. When you go on against those guys that started boxing with 80 years old, and you really ain't got no chance. Like, you got to punch his chance, which everybody doing boxing, but you're just behind. Like, you, you, you learning on the job.

And I feel like that style that he brought in was, like, Taylor made for Ryan. Like, you, you barge in with your head all the way out. You know what I mean? That's, you, you open to get hit at all times. There are one more question for you, before we go back to your fight. There's a lot of people in boxing as friends or crews are clicked up or so on and so

Do you have anybody in boxing that's like your friend or your homeboy or anybody that you train with to school? Uh, not that, not that, uh, that's around my way. Like Jamar, Jamal, Alam, you know, we cool. Um, you know, I fought with a few people, Regis, pro grade. Um, I ain't kicked it with too many people outside of, uh, boxing though. You know, bang, that B with A, B, them on that, on that, um, um, um, um, um, you know, um, um, a, um, um, um, on that streaming stuff. Yeah, that was my homie.

We, you know, we was locked in for a little minute. That's the homie for show. But I ain't got too many friends in boxing for real. Like, real friends. That's what I was hoping there. I was hoping to here, this is business. It ain't person. I'm not here to make friends.

But if you want to be friends with, that's on you. If you look at you for friends, I'm cool. I'm cool. I'm too competitive, man. bro, like, you ain't my brother. You ain't grow up with me. Like, we can get it in. I ain't, like, we just met.

Now, you know, I'm fucking with you, but on the serious note, you know, when we went to your fight and saying then, I picked against you, you kicked the nigger ass. And you and your crew came up to me and said, we told you, it wasn't personal, it wasn't no bullshit. Y'all some cool-ass niggas and y'all take care of your business.

And you've been taking care of your business since I've been keeping out with you. I don't even know about that. I haven't even seen the three losses, which you've been doing since then has been sensational, man. And we're looking forward to the fight, man. What kind of fight are we expecting to see from you? We know what he said.

What are you saying? Hey, I just expect a dominant, like, I'm going to come in. You know, it's going to be, he think he know what I'm going to do, but it's going to be the same thing gets forward. It's going to be the same thing gets forward. All these guys that talk like they just going to walk me down and do all this and that. But I promise you, by the end of the fight, I'm gonna be crushing shit, like, no pause, whatever. But, like, for the show, like, you know what I mean?

I'm gonna be, I bet y'all have him backing up and I bet y'all put pain to him, you know what I mean? So I'm looking to dominate, bro. Like, this fight turned me up all the way. Man, like, I'm ready, man. I ain't gonna lie. All right. Well, that's what's up. Yo, look, we're gonna have you on as soon as the fight is over, man.

Statt was the fight. Yes, fights October 24th, and it's in San Antonio, so make sure y'all check it out, like we said, Oshaki Foster versus Emmanuel Navarretti, three-belt super featherweight unification. It should be a good one. Y'all heard from Shock here first. Shock, you welcome here anytime, bro. You know we love you up here, bro. Much love.

And I appreciate y'all, bro. Much love, for sure. You all ready. See you after the fight. And we'll be right back. Welcome back. Well, listen, man, before we end this, show. I just, and we had a million views. I wanted to tell, first of all, all

Joe Saim Mesa, I love you, man. Thank you. This has been great, very kindling my brotherhood with you. Statt, my new little sister. I appreciate you. Arabia. Of course you, and we have so many participants of the show, O.J. Michael Irvin, we want to say thank you to Mike Irvin as well. But I've had these two together in a while. Arabia, here's my gift to you. Here you go. I knew it. Congrats. Congratulations.

Hey. Yeah, Mom, she's trying to run from you, baby. Yeah. We all here, baby. But she's what you got to tell her. Hey. Oh, I, I, I'm, oh, I, I'm a ribby. Wow.

This is why we need to star. This is the craziest setup I've ever seen in my life. You know, pick me off the show at half time. We get to a millie. Pick me off the show at halftime. And then bring Maurice Claret out. This is absolutely insane. And at this point, yes, I would like to file a formal complaint with me against

Maurice Claret. And now I'm adding Cameron Giles to the- Ohio, baby. Okay, no problem. Yo, Mo, she here, man. Would you have to talk? She's been, I be talking about trying to tell her to talk. Come on your show.

How if I don't work. You got it. No. Look, so I'll be in her comments section. She ignored me. Static norm. I got direct messages about y'all, y'all freestyle and if they really dropping it. And she, look, she did everything on this page, but talk about Michigan football.

When y'all won, you had everything to say about me. You responded in the group message. I don't think you don't can, but she don't even respond to my messages in the group message, but day two and three, or three and two, whatever it is, it's a debacle up there and we heard from the woman. You look, you are so eloquent with your takes. I enjoy hearing them, but you ain't saying shit about your squad. Can you explain to the people what happened in Arabia?

Okay, so first of all, it was crickets, quiet on the creek when Ohio lost. We're not going to sit up here and act like y'all are undefeated this season because you're early ill. And if it happened, I was supposed to come on a show with y'all, but long story, sure, I couldn't come on a show so I could talk my Michigan shit. So if I didn't take time to talk shit when Michigan won, you think I'm showing up when Michigan lose? I'm not going to sit up here in percent.

Because you said it two seasons ago, you was like, oh, I got to talk shit once we started winning. So until then, I'm going to keep ignoring your messages. I'm going to keep not responding. And my shit breaking up. I can't hear you, matter of fact. So let's talk about that bet, though. So remember, you agree, you hear me.

And if you don't, I'm pretty sure that somebody going to tell you, about it in your comments, right? So you gotta laugh for a minute when we beat y'all. That's not true, Lori. I don't care, I'm lying stepping. I'm lying stepping. That's not true because that's not what it is. I'm looking at the DMs right now.

That's not true because I say it's a lot of stuff I would do in this world, but I'm not laughing for a minute straight of nothing. That's not that's what we're not going to do. Now we did the tickets. I said that we could do the tickets. Okay, if Michigan went to Ohio State, then we can two tickets. But I'm not laughing for a minute straight. No, so I agree to buy you a ticket because.

I'm going to say it again. I'm on the sideline. I don't need the ticket. The fans can't see that. All they see is, okay, that's AI, whatever you hold up. All I remember is me said, hey, I buy you a ticket to any college football game you want to. I didn't need a ticket because I'm on the sideline, Arabia. And I say, you have to laugh for a minute straight.

And you agree. So that's the better radio. Bravia. Don't try to back out now that you're losing. I'm a pull of cam. This is what he did to me earlier, so that is what I'm going to do to you. Listen, Mo. I don't hear nothing that you know.

Well, we're going to see you. Mo, we'll see you tomorrow on it is what it is. I just thought I should reunite you too because y'all haven't been on the show together this season. And I'm looking forward to having more y'all on the show together as the, let's do this. If not before then, at least when Ohio plays Michigan the week before, if nothing else.

I'll be here, Arabia. I'll be here too. I'll be here too. Okay. That's a deal. Okay. That's a deal. A deal on cancer.

Y'all, because y'all, y'all set me up, and that's crazy. Buy to Statt and buy to Mace and nobody else. Not even you, Nick, because you set this whole thing up. And not your family. Bye, Mays. Buck eyes, man. Buck-Eye, man. Oh, Lord.

What a great ending. Yo, Mo, we'll see you tomorrow. Later. Oh, gosh. Well, y'all, that is all the time that we have for today. Thank y'all for watching. As always, it is what it is.