IT IS WHAT IT IS - ALL THE DISS TRACK RECORDS ARE DROPPING & "THEY" SAID MA$E CAN'T BE DOWN WITH THE KNICKS | S4 EP8

Episode Date: May 1, 2024

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This a reunion, hello y'all Uh I was selling crack on a private jet up in the hell and back But no confusion, this a reunion Hello y'all, welcome back Get murdered here, he counting money He said, can't man, the hell we're at I'm only here to shit on niggas and piss on bitches
Starting point is 00:00:16 Welcome ass, I bought jewelry and bikes, nigga Black Benz's and white Vigas Now I'm out here and I'm looking for more chandeliers and light fixtures Nah, I don't like niggas, what's wrong with me? Welcome back to It Is What It Is. This episode is sponsored by Underdog Fantasy. The app is an easy way to make some cash just by making picks on your favorite players. Underdog is available in more than 30 states,
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Starting point is 00:00:57 hosts Mace and Cam. That murder was good. Looking good. Looking good today, man. I'm not saying you don't look good than any other day, Paws, but I like the three-piece. You went three-piece on him. That was good. Looking good. Looking good, man. Looking good today, man. I'm not saying you don't look good in any other day, Paws, but I like the three-piece. You went three-piece on him. That was very nice, man. I don't know what murder we getting today.
Starting point is 00:01:11 I don't know what's about to happen, but it seems like a lesson might be taught. Nah. I was listening to Euphoria today, maybe for the audience, too. How you felt about that? Oh, man. It was interesting. It was interesting.
Starting point is 00:01:29 Did you like it? I thought it was cool. Who's winning? How about that? That's a better question. Who's winning the battle to you right now? Oh, man. Drake is definitely winning from an MC standpoint.
Starting point is 00:01:47 It took a while for him to get, for us to get the record from Kendrick. And when you wait a while, it got to be, it got to be like out of this world. I think if Kendrick dropped this record right after dropping Gimme 50, it would have been crazy. Like immediate, not waiting. Yeah, if it was immediate, then it would have been crazy. But we waited a while.
Starting point is 00:02:08 Been a couple weeks. Been a few weeks. Yeah, to get this pause. I don't know, man. What do you think? I think Drake is running. Euphoria didn't really move me. I'm not saying, because you know why I'm expecting lyrics from Kendrick Lamar.
Starting point is 00:02:25 It isn't like I'm not saying he's an illiterate. So you're expecting certain things. And so it was kind of long. Took too long. It came out pause. I'm not saying it's bad.
Starting point is 00:02:37 I'm just, if you actually. It was a good, it was a good record. It was a good record, but it was a good record that we waited a while for. We didn't wait a while for a good record. Sometimes a good record but it was a good record that we waited a while for we didn't wait a while for a good record sometimes if you wait you still can pop off the oracle came out
Starting point is 00:02:51 two years later four years later it was hot sometimes when you wait sometimes when you wait it's still hot though you waited a couple years to drop the bomb on me. No, no. No, that's a good conversation. So how come when you waited, your shit was still hot, though? How does that work? How does that work, though? The way it works is. Nah, the way it works, like, I mean, you know, because you had so much ammunition on me,
Starting point is 00:03:26 I had to wait until you say everything you were going to say. Until I ran out? Yeah. I said, this is the last thing. This nigga. I said, oh, this nigga killing. I woke up and niggas like, Ms. Manfoco, they like, yo, murder just dropped the bomb. I said, this nigga killing. I woke up and niggas, I missed my phone call. They like, yo, murder just dropped the bomb. I said, I heard it.
Starting point is 00:03:49 Everybody in my crew panicked. And I said, you remember, remember it's a part in training day when, uh, when Denzel threw the nigga on, was arguing with, um, Hoyt. Yeah. And that nigga pulled the gun out of Hoyt That's why I felt like Oh I said
Starting point is 00:04:08 Nobody say that I said That's the shoot I know right there That was a good one So I was just wondering Because it wasn't Euphoria It wasn't the Oracle But the Oracle waited
Starting point is 00:04:20 But No it's just like when you did Curtis Or any When you did You know Paul suck it or not it's a certain thing you gotta have in a record that Kendrick doesn't have in his record like you gotta school these niggas like you gotta say something that make niggas look at the nigga different you know I'm saying and when he did when did the, I don't want to hear you say nigga,
Starting point is 00:04:46 it was like, that was a pause, an angle we already heard before. Yeah. No different than when you said, Curtis. Yeah, like, old shit is like, bro,
Starting point is 00:04:56 and I was talking to somebody, I'm not saying there's rap beef going on right now, it's not interesting and something entertaining, but, you know, when we doing rap, this is not just me and entertaining but you know when we're doing rap this is not just me and you understand in general people have the potential to die like literally or seriously hurt and i just don't feel that in these battles and i don't i'm not
Starting point is 00:05:18 promoting this i'm like i'm happy that somebody might not. Nobody will get hurt. Hopefully nobody will. But it just felt like dangerous. This doesn't feel like dangerous atmosphere to me. And it's entertaining to listen to, but that's what I say. You know, like, niggas start off the record, first off, fuck you and the bitch you claim, nigga. Yeah. Yeah. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:05:44 It took like a minute for him to get into his record. So I was like, oh, maybe he got something else, you know? Yeah. Like when you, when you. And I'm not swaying the narrative, you know, because they probably think we're OVO. No, no, no, no, no. I'm not, I'm not picking sides.
Starting point is 00:05:59 The reason, the reason why we're holding Kendrick Lamar to such a high standard, because we believe he's one of the greatest lyricists out for this generation. So that's the reason we're holding him to a high standard because I think he's, you know, arguably
Starting point is 00:06:14 for this generation, one of the best lyricist niggas who don't necessarily care about riding the beat pause all the time. But he can do it as well. He makes good records as well. So that's why I felt like that but you know
Starting point is 00:06:27 when you say when you say one of the greatest MC of this generation in what group in 1 through 5 and 1 through 3 for this generation
Starting point is 00:06:36 and to be honest it may not be this generation maybe on the next generation because these guys in their late 30s going on 40 like we look at because we're a little older
Starting point is 00:06:44 so we sit there and say this generation like we'll sit there and say, this generation, like, we'll sit there and say, Meek Mills or Drake or Rick Ross or Future, and you say the younger generation. Them to the 19-year-old, them niggas is older now. You know what I'm saying? You thinking Meek is in that group?
Starting point is 00:07:00 I'm not saying that this, but yes, I think he's right underneath it, right there. Look, he was beefing with Drake. You know what I'm not saying it's this, but yes, I think he's right underneath it, right there. Look, he was beefing with Drake. You know what I'm saying? And then Meek got his real fame, or not fame. I've known him since he was doing Mixed Tapes, but I'm talking about nationally when he got with MMG. And they had formed that little clique, and they got the deal from Lior,
Starting point is 00:07:18 and they had money behind them, him, Wale, Eric, Ross. So I think he's from that whole... So forget Drake. Do you think he's from that whole. So forget Drake. Do you think he's in the same class with J. Cole? Who, Meek Mills? Yeah. No, I'm not saying that. I'm talking about if you graduated.
Starting point is 00:07:34 Oh, okay. I'm talking about the class of 08 or whatever. That's what I'm saying. I'm not saying as far as talent or songs or lyrics. I'm talking about the class of 08 graduated. Because for me personally, when I think about it, even like with Young Money, their first song that ever came out, Young Money.
Starting point is 00:07:50 To me, that single, I can't remember the name of it, but to me, that was Lil Wayne's tryouts. Like if God shows a real side, everybody's on the song. We gonna see who shine. And that was the trials. It was Tiger and J Mills was on the song. Not just Drake and Nicki.
Starting point is 00:08:10 It was eight, nine niggas. And you see who kind of rose above everybody else. It took Tiger a little while longer later on. But out that first slew, it was Drake and Nicki. Yeah. And I asked that. No shit against Meek Mill. I just asked that
Starting point is 00:08:25 because when people hear of that group, you know, they often say, at one time, I did have Meek in that group, but I wanted to know if you had him in that group.
Starting point is 00:08:37 Like, when it comes to, when they say the big three, he would be in that class of MCs, but for some reason, they don't put him in the big three. To me, and Meek is my guy,
Starting point is 00:08:50 there's no slight to disrespect Meek. I think Meek is almost like, and I don't want to say it's like, you know back in the days when you go to jail, that shit pop off for you or something, like you come on like, oh, Tupac went to jail, or even T.I. Every time, yeah. Even T.I. would go to jail, that shit pop off for you or something like, you come on like, oh, Tupac went to jail
Starting point is 00:09:05 or even T.I. Every time, yeah. Even T.I. would go to jail or whoever comes to. Yeah, Gucci, man. Great example. Tupac. I don't think that works
Starting point is 00:09:15 in this era. Yeah. Like, I don't really think, even like, yo, what is he doing going to jail? And Meek is kind of like, and I'm not going to say put him all the way there,
Starting point is 00:09:24 it's kind of like John Morant. Like, you was there. You was right on the c kind of like, and I'm not going to say put him all the way there. It's kind of like John Morant. Like you was there. You was right on the cusp of being mentioned with those three and other things, whether it's beefing with the label, whether it's going to jail for a little while, whether not putting out music as much as they have. I don't know what it is, but he was right there at one particular point for me. Not saying he's not good now, but I'm just saying he would be, he was a time was going to be considered one of them ones to me.
Starting point is 00:09:53 Those are all really good points. I got to say, Kendrick is one of my favorite rappers. So I actually liked the disc. I mean, he does take a minute to kind of get into that flow, which is why I see how people are like, man, like he didn't really hit, but I felt like he did. And then it's interesting that you guys say that about me because I think also for my generation, when there is that gap, it does kind of take a second for people to like really feel it when you're like kind of gone. Like he does have, you know, obviously a lot of great hits, but for us, we need that consistency because our attention span and
Starting point is 00:10:21 that's what I really think it goes to goes so quick so if we're not hearing stuff consistent it's like people fall off not saying that he fell off but for us that's just kind of how it goes so right okay and last thing to me um out of everybody all the disc records that came out and there's no disc tours Quavo yeah I think Chris Brown Has the best joint Yeah I was gonna say that Chris Brown has the best Yeah To me To me that was kind of The best
Starting point is 00:10:50 It's Chris then Drake Yeah I think Chris Brown Has the best joint And then Which one Which one Let me see which one you picked The one I'm talking about
Starting point is 00:10:58 And I don't wanna use that quote So people know what Was it the first one Or the second one? I only heard once. It's the one when, I don't want to use that quote, but he's dripping in red and all that.
Starting point is 00:11:12 Yeah, that was the first one. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The second one is crazy too. Then what Chris is doing, he kind of almost, I got to keep saying no disrespect to people. He kind of doing what 50 did to Ja Rule. And I'm not saying put him out of business, but he bought all the front row tickets
Starting point is 00:11:28 to Quavo concerts. So it looked... Yeah, I saw that. It was super empty. Right. So I'm like, yo, that nigga moving like a nigga from the mid-90s right now, B.
Starting point is 00:11:40 He moving real tactical, man. He from Virginia, so he's close. He know how to do it. He moving real tactical, man. Yeah from Virginia, so he's close. He know how to do it. He moving real tactical, man. Yeah. Okay, so let's get into the Sixers versus the Knicks. The Sixers beat the Knicks 112-106 in overtime. Was the win surprising to you?
Starting point is 00:11:56 And then do you guys feel like the Sixers got their groove back? Hmm. Killer said I wasn't wearing blue and orange today. Hmm. Killer said I wasn't wearing blue and orange today. I thought you were going to come in here with red and blue, to be honest with you. You know, the blue.
Starting point is 00:12:16 No, I'm playing. I'm playing. I already know. There's certain things that you just see and you just know this is going to be one of those games where whenever somebody get 49 at the point guard, whoever get 40 and above as a point guard is going to win. It's just that simple. You know how people used to be like this growing up back in the days? Well, he had 30.
Starting point is 00:12:42 I had 39. Me and Kareem Reed do that all the time. It's about Forrest. It's like you had 39, but you lost by... We lost by 9. That's the 9 that counted. So when you look at Maxie having
Starting point is 00:12:57 46, right? And then you get down here and you see, pause, you see Brunson have 40. This is what we talk about he had 40 maxi has 46 and they lose 106 to 112 that's the six that counted i had the six that counted that's what maxi is gonna say to brunson and you gotta you gotta make sure that when it's these kind of showdowns that you have the most, because it's going to count. And sometimes it seems so simple, but success is that simple. For people that think I'm so just simple, that's what success is. It's simple. Whenever people
Starting point is 00:13:40 lose, it's simple. It's simple. You let this man get six more points than you, and you lost by six. But I think it's still in the Knicks' favor. I think the Knicks still win this series. I'm surprised that Joel Embiid only had 19, but sometimes you have to take your talents and put it back into like rebounding and blocks and stuff that big men used to do. Because a lot of these new age big men are causing them teams victories
Starting point is 00:14:12 because they're playing so new style. And they don't realize that. So I'm glad he went back to four blocks. Four blocks to change a game. Because if you got people running to the basket and changing their shots, blocking shots, that's what we need from a big man. Keller, it's on you. Yeah, look.
Starting point is 00:14:35 I said niggas was going to lose game five. I said this. I believe that the Knicks will win in Philly next game. I think they'll close out in Philly. Too many mental mistakes. Sometimes the moment is too big for certain people. And I'm not saying, you know, the Knicks and Jalen Brunson throughout the playoffs,
Starting point is 00:14:57 they have been playing really good under the lights and the stage. You know, it's different stages, it's different lights. The playoffs are not the regular season. The championship is not the playoffs. You know, it's different stages, it's different lights. The playoffs are not the regular season. The championship is not the playoffs. Different stages, different lights. And I'm not going to accuse them of not playing good. But last night, the moment was too big.
Starting point is 00:15:16 You got to realize the Knicks was up five points with less than a minute left. And just too many little things. We have to think about it. Josh Hart makes both them free throws with 15 seconds left we're not talking about Tyrese Maxey hitting a shot from the logo to send it into overtime we're not talking about that we're not talking about in overtime if ty if uh jalen brunson pulls up for three shot contested he tries to pass to the center of the corner the center of the corner is going for the offensive rebound they turn it over that ultimately sealed the deal it was a very very big moment in master square garden last night all the ghosts was out when i say the ghost pat, Patrick Ewing, Latrell Sprewell,
Starting point is 00:16:06 John Starks, Larry Johnson, Carmelo Anthony, John McEnroe. Everybody was there last night and under a minute left, everybody was high-fiving, they hugging, tears coming in their eyes.
Starting point is 00:16:20 And I'm sitting there watching and I said, it is five seconds left and Tyrese Maxey hits the three-point if it goes before he hits the logo joint. Cuts the lead to three. Then, I mean, cuts the lead to two, pardon me. On a four-point play, Josh Hart gets fouled, missed the free throw. First one, makes the second.
Starting point is 00:16:42 He comes back down, sent to overtime. The numbers-wise, that was a great point, what you were saying about the point guards first one makes the second he comes back down sent to overtime the numbers wise that was a great point what you were saying about the point guards and the differential with the numbers but one thing that I did
Starting point is 00:16:52 notice with the Knicks is them niggas is dogs I'm talking about tenacity on defense they don't want like I be looking at Philly
Starting point is 00:16:59 and I be like why y'all struggling and get the ball up the court I remember we always bring them when we play ball like we were some wild professional niggas. But I used to love the press because I could break the press by myself. I didn't need no.
Starting point is 00:17:15 If the niggas have a full court press, we had an offense to beat the press. But I literally could get the ball past half court with all four in the front court i was i was a fast guy though but i just sit there and watch they don't really crash the boys philly joel and beat is a shell of himself you know you see it i get like i said each day i give him props for being out there literal shell of himself putting up decent numbers he still had 19 16 rebounds where they was catching them that was the non-turnovers. He kept trying to put the ball on the floor. Mitchell kept slapping it.
Starting point is 00:17:49 His turn, he wasn't making the right cross-court passes. He looks really bad. And another thing I'll say to jump off topic real quick. If Joel Embiid is not healthy by the summertime, the United States will not win the Olympics. I'm telling you that right now. I'm telling you that flat out right now. That if Joel Embiid, because y'all don't know,
Starting point is 00:18:11 and I don't know, but I know it was big negotiations between France, because he's a resident of France, or Paris, one of them, so he's a farmer, if I get it wrong, and the United States to get them, to get him on each team, and what was promised to him from what I was hearing was outrageous from the United States to get them, to get him on each team. And what was promised to him
Starting point is 00:18:25 from what I was hearing was outrageous from the United States. Like, police, I'm exaggerating, but the shit that was offered to him, they can't even talk about. But we're too small internationally. You know, when they was out there playing, it wasn't the Olympics.
Starting point is 00:18:41 I forget what international competition it was last year or the year before. I think we finished third or fourth because the United States is just too small. You think about the centers around the league right now or the big men around the league. They're not American. Yeah. We have no big Americans, pause, to represent. So we have a lot of talent, but size is going to matter, Paul, when we go internationally.
Starting point is 00:19:05 And if Joe Embiid isn't healthy, we don't win. I just wanted to put that out there. But back to the game, I just think it was too big a moment. You know, you really felt as a New Yorker or a New York Knicks fan that that game was signed, sealed, and delivered at less than one minute. And it wasn't. It wasn't. So I'm not here to... What were they crying about?
Starting point is 00:19:30 Who's that? The former Knick players. What were they tearing up about? I didn't see that they was crying. Oh, no. You said everybody was excited about... Oh, man. I was exaggerating,
Starting point is 00:19:40 but I'm talking about they're up five or six... They're up six points for less than a minute. Yeah. Then, like up five or six they're up six points for less than a minute yeah then like 40 seconds you're up six you think the game is over you like yo nah and then what happens is murder the knicks have won playoff series since 1999 but they never closed out in the garden since 1999 wow so yeah So now it's like, even if they close out in Philly, they're not closing out.
Starting point is 00:20:09 It's not the Garden. So they haven't closed a playoff series out this century. And that's what niggas was like. Oh, yeah. You know how crazy. They wanted to see the confetti. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:20 Yeah. That's what Susan said. He wears our confetti. He's mad because they want to. Because if they weren't in Philly, Philly's not dropping confetti for them. Exactly. I watched this game on television. I actually was like, yo, the Garden looked crazy.
Starting point is 00:20:35 It looked really wild in there with less than a minute to go. Yeah, and Philly fans, you better get them tickets you see what Dawn Staley said she tweeted and said Philly season ticket holders do not sell your tickets please do not
Starting point is 00:20:57 I say it again do not sell your tickets we can do this we can do this she said we can do this ish without the S1 we can do this. We can do this. She said, we can do this-ish. Without the S-1, we can do this. So, they didn't like that shit. They did not like that New York shit in Philly. But I'll tell you this much.
Starting point is 00:21:14 See, that's the thing. Pardon me. It isn't even about the season ticket holders. Soon as the Knicks lost, New Yorkers got online And bought Every ticket that was available Them tickets was bought If Philly ain't get online And try and get them tickets It only gonna be season ticket holders
Starting point is 00:21:33 Soon as the Knicks lost They was on the fucking phone Or online getting them tickets Okay And then the Magic lost to the Cavs 1-0-4 to 1-0-3 Close game The Cavs lead the series103, close game.
Starting point is 00:21:46 The Cavs lead the series 3-2. How did you guys feel about this game? And then what are you expecting from both teams in the next game? This game was exactly what I thought about both of these teams. When it comes to Donovan Mitchell or Garland, they both performed, had the performance that I was thinking about in P5 at 39. So exactly what I've been saying all year about this team is starting to make sense. Now, if the Cavs, when the Cavs beat them, it seemed like they're neck and neck.
Starting point is 00:22:21 But whoever wins this is pretty much going to lose to the next seed. Celtics. Yeah. They should celebrate their wins while they can. As they run into the Celtics, they're out of here. But I do like what the Magic is able to
Starting point is 00:22:40 do, as well as Cleveland. Both of these teams were kind of out of the mix for a few years, and to see Cleveland winning without LeBron is great. So they got some hope back in Cleveland. Not that it's anything against LeBron. We just want to see them do well. And the magic. I like the fact that they're actually starting to turn this franchise around. And with Suggs and the rest of them, I think they have a promising future. They're like one piece away from being a real contender.
Starting point is 00:23:14 Maybe next year. Yeah. I'm sitting there looking at the stats. Cleveland, one by one. Looking at Chagall, Menchero, 39, eight rebounds. Mm-hmm. Four assists, pretty decent game. Garland, 23.
Starting point is 00:23:30 Mitchell, 28. When I'm looking here, Mitchell was a minus 11 when he was on the floor. Cool, but I'm going to be totally honest with you. Y'all put this shit on the same time as the Sixers game. I couldn't focus on this game. I'm sitting reading the stats. I'm not even going to say couldn't focus on this game. I'm saying read the stats. I'm not even going to say that. I lied to you.
Starting point is 00:23:48 Like, oh, the game was, it came on the same exact time as the Knicks' Six game. I couldn't focus on this shit. I'm going to say read the stats to you, but I'm not going to lie to you. I didn't watch it. The Sixers-Knicks game
Starting point is 00:23:59 was just electrifying. This is like an Eastern Conference final series, this fucking Knicks-Sixers shit. This shit is, and not just because I'm a New Yorker, but this shit is electrified. This is like an Eastern Conference final series, this fucking Knicks six and shit. This shit is, and not just because I'm a New Yorker, but this shit is electrified. I'm sitting there, and I was watching the game, and I'm like, Cam, don't
Starting point is 00:24:14 start feeling good about the Knicks. Don't do it to yourself. Do not do it. Larry, you walked in the crib. White rope inside his bottom. White walked in and said, at the same time I told you, Knicks up six with less than a minute.
Starting point is 00:24:29 Soon as Larry walked in, shit went downhill. That's why I said, see, this is exactly why you can't put your emotions involved with these niggas. That's why the Islanders on instead of the Rangers.
Starting point is 00:24:43 Okay. This kid knows how to cover his ground, man. I hear you, bro. But I'm going to be honest with you. I didn't see this game. I'm reading the stats. To me, this is the least interesting
Starting point is 00:25:00 series in the first round. No disrespect to Cleveland. no disrespect to Cleveland, no disrespect to Orlando, but there's been a lot of great first round matchups. You got to think about it. We had Denver against the Lakers. We watched fucking Minnesota bounce KD and them niggas out. Fucking, we watched the plan,
Starting point is 00:25:22 which was even decent. You know what I'm saying? And I don't want to discredit these teams because they didn't even have to go watched the plan which was even decent you know i'm saying and i don't want to discredit these teams because they didn't have to go to the plan they made it to the playoffs fair and square but i didn't watch the game it came on the same exact time i don't know which i want to do nba to you want to give viewership up not only that it came on nba tv not saying don't watch nba tv but if you got to just regular cable not, but if you got regular cable and you could just go to ESPN or TNT,
Starting point is 00:25:48 you're going to watch that. So congratulations to the Cleveland Cavaliers and everything else, but I happen to miss the game. Okay. And then before we even move on regarding the Knicks,
Starting point is 00:25:56 somebody did say, and I just wanted to know if you got a response. They said, make sure you tell Macy Jinks the Knicks you up there with Spike Lee. That's the tweet I got what's his handle
Starting point is 00:26:12 so I can get his page removed Rick's back in town no I was just saying shout out to Briggs back in town that was a good one. It was. Bro, don't put me up there with Spike Lee, though. That's crazy.
Starting point is 00:26:31 They can say, we don't need you at this point. Orange pants every day. I told y'all. I told y'all. They can start day out of frame. I told you, man. I just had to share that because the tweet was just too funny. Okay.
Starting point is 00:26:44 Moving along. The Bucks beat the Pacers 115-92 without Giannis and Dame. Even without those two players, do you guys think they have what it takes to continue winning? Or do you think that the Pacers are going to come back stronger? Oh, man. I think both are true. I think they have what it takes. Here we go.
Starting point is 00:27:03 Here we go. Safety net. Two can't be true at the same time. It's possible for two things to be true at the same time. That's the same. Somebody told me that. That was a good answer. It's possible for two things to be true at the same time.
Starting point is 00:27:22 It's possible for them to have what it takes, and it's possible for the Pacers to come back strong. But if I was to have to go with somebody, I think Indiana is going to pull it off. When it came to Middleton, he played a really good game. And it's about time Middleton earned that money. They gave him a big salary this year, and this is exactly what he's supposed to do
Starting point is 00:27:47 when Dillard is, I mean, when Damon Lillard is out and Giannis is out. This is exactly what he's supposed to do. He's supposed to come in there and get the points that he got and make sure that they win. I mean, I think they're saving Doc Rivers because this is looking
Starting point is 00:28:06 really weak. I think it's calmer for them firing the coach. I really want to throw that out there. I think they jinxed their season
Starting point is 00:28:16 when they fired that coach, especially when he was getting it done. Ain't going to get Pat Bev's pops? No, Pat Bev did his thing. Pat Bev, man, starting point guard, man. 13 points, 12 assists, man.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Let's go, Pat. Yeah, man, four rebounds. Pat said, let me start. Pat said, when I start. When I start, this is the results you get. This is the results you get. Yeah, actually, he had 12 points alone just in the third quarter. Yeah, I finished with 13, but.
Starting point is 00:28:48 And that's the quarter that counts a lot. It is, it is. Shout out to Pat Baff. Pat Baff, killer was wrong. Killer trying to double back. Trying to double back. When you're in the game, you do your thing. I never threatened to choke the nigga.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Choke you out, Pat. You never forget. Choke you out. You never forget. Choke you out. That was gross, man. I did go wild. You did. And brave forever. Look, sometimes you just can't explain it. This is one of them things where everybody came out to play.
Starting point is 00:29:24 As far as outside of Damian Lillard and Greek Freak but sometimes you play for your city, you play for those watching and I think they came out with a lot of energy, they didn't just win, they won by 23
Starting point is 00:29:40 points so I believe that Milwaukee I'm thinking this Indiana pardon me indiana's still gonna win this series i know that they have to go home whether they won or not so i think they close out when they get back to indiana but i think this is a great victory um going into game six i believe it's going to be yeah game six but six. But they did a great job. No Lillard, no Giannis. You got to give them big props. Yeah, Ortis even showed up with 29 and 10.
Starting point is 00:30:09 Yeah, everybody in the starting lineup is in double digits for Milwaukee. You know, they did a great job. I haven't seen Gallinari play in two, three years, maybe four. He had 21 minutes off the bench. Doc Rivers is definitely using every asset he has. Congratulations. We'll see what happens next game. What I will say, though, is this,
Starting point is 00:30:32 man. We have to figure out what's going on because with these things with calf injuries, like they're saying Giannis isn't playing because he has a calf injury, but he hasn't played in the playoffs yet. They're saying Kawhi has a calf injury. Poor Zingas has a calf injury.
Starting point is 00:30:50 We'll see what happens. They're just saying he'll miss game five. We don't know what's going to happen. So Giannis, who else? Giannis, poor Zingas, Kawhi. Kawhi. Zion was a hamstring. That's just off the top
Starting point is 00:31:05 of my head yeah but what I'm saying is this to me and the reason I bring that up is this Beth is because when you have a calf injury
Starting point is 00:31:13 you could play if you have an Achilles injury you're scared yeah you know who had a calf injury Jamal Murray had a calf injury yeah and he's
Starting point is 00:31:22 and he went out there and dunked on LeBron and hit a game winner that's who had a calf injury. Yeah. And he went out there and dunked on LeBron and hit a game winner. That's who had a calf injury. All these other fake, quote, unquote, calf injuries, why aren't you playing? And if it's Achilles, I advise you not to play. But you're lying to the public,
Starting point is 00:31:39 making it seem like it's just a calf. A nigga who had a calf injury is Jamal Murray. You see what he did with a calf injury. Tell us what's really going on so we're not here speculating and expecting you possibly to come back this season. So you said it's Giannis, Portis, I meant Porzingis.
Starting point is 00:31:55 And who else? Kawhi Leonard. You never really know what's going on with Kawhi Leonard. Yeah, you never know with Kawhi. And it was somebody else I thought I mentioned, but I can't think off the top of my head. But let's look at this stat. I'll give you a better stat. I think it's their sneakers.
Starting point is 00:32:10 Could be. I think it's everybody trying to wear them low tops. All the people that keep getting injured are low top sneaker wearers. I'll give you a better stat. Giannis, Zion, Steph Curry, Kevin Durant, LeBron James, Anthony Davis.
Starting point is 00:32:30 That's just off the top of my head. Have a combined one game win for this playoff season. All them play superstars I name have one win combined yeah that's crazy as a combined have one win
Starting point is 00:32:51 it's crazy and those are the superstars that are being marketed okay and then after the Lakers playoff loss to the Nuggets Darvin Ham
Starting point is 00:33:01 is facing a lot of criticism and there is speculation he will be fired so the question of the day is do you think it's over. Darvin Ham is facing a lot of criticism and there is speculation he will be fired. So the question of the day is, do you think it's over for Darvin Ham? I actually do think it's over for him. I thought it was a monumental thing for them to get an African-American head coach as the Lakers. A lot went into this.
Starting point is 00:33:30 I remember at one point they was trying to get Tyrone Liu, and that didn't pan out. LeBron was trying to get him there. So when him came, I remember them from back in the days. I was rooting for him. But it just doesn't seem like he's going to be able to get it done in the Laker locker room because you can tell as a player when the energy has left the coach and when people are not going to play for you. When times get close, depending on how you feel about the coach, depending on how you feel about the
Starting point is 00:34:00 other players, that's where you get that extra push for him to win games. And it is very obvious that they won't do it for him. Even when he's trying to make different changes, you can see LeBron mannerisms and his, just the way he looks at him, it doesn't look like admiration like he would as a pop. What's the dude name from San Antonio? Popovich? Popovich, yeah. Yeah, the way he would look at one. What's the dude name from San Antonio? Popovich? Popovich, yeah.
Starting point is 00:34:26 Yeah, the way he would look at one of those kind of coaches. When you think of a guy like LeBron, you either come in there as a coach that's going to do whatever LeBron says, but if you want somebody to really coach LeBron and LeBron want to allow himself to be coached, it's going to have to be by somebody that have all the credentials
Starting point is 00:34:44 to get him to buy into the system, even for his last couple of years. So I think he's out the door. I think since last year, he's been out the door. This year just completed it. I want you to stop in front of me. What do you think, Stat? You can sit down and tell Trisha
Starting point is 00:35:07 what's your question? It's about Dorian Hamm. He said, what do you think? What I think, if I think it's over for him? Yeah. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:35:15 because I just feel like when you have... Wait, the camera. Don't worry about it. You good? Go ahead. That's her to figure out.
Starting point is 00:35:22 She want that money. She'll slide it under the door, son. I think it's over for Darvin Ham, especially when you start having post-game interviews and you start kind of outing starter players. That's not a good look, one. And then two, when you do have players like LeBron, AD, you have a pretty good core.
Starting point is 00:35:43 I just feel like there's no reason for them to go out the way that they did granted I know it's a little difficult because you know they've had some issues but in between the season but I just feel like this point that's not working like you said working with LeBron you need somebody who's going to be able to coach him get him to do things a certain way without him taking the reins all the time if the chemistry ain't working the chemistry ain't working because at the end of the day, we got to see some wins. If we're not seeing some wins, it's got to go. Yeah, and when you think about it, there was too much talent on that team to exit first
Starting point is 00:36:11 round. That's what I'm thinking. The Lakers is clearly not bums. I know a lot of times we joke around with Anthony Davis, but he's a premier player and you need a better coach to get more out of that team. And that's just where they are.
Starting point is 00:36:27 They're going to have to look somewhere else. Why is it monumental, Mace, though, that they hired a black coach? What do you mean that's monumental for the Lakers? They had black coaches before. Who? Byron Scott, Mike Brown. Byron Scott, Mike Brown. I didn't understand the monumental.
Starting point is 00:36:43 That's what I was trying to figure out. Me and a nigga like ham, though. Me, you said Byron Scott. This is a Laker, like, this is Laker royalty, dig it. And you said Mike Brown. These are people who came with championship credentials. When it was like ham, it was like, oh. I like that answer.
Starting point is 00:37:14 When you said monumental black, I was just trying to see where you were going. But that was a good one. When they hired Ham. You got a fight going backwards. Yeah. Oh, they looking out for niggas. Niggas is getting jawged with the Lakers now. Yeah. Put your resume in, Stash.
Starting point is 00:37:32 They really need to talk to my man Mark Jackson, man, to be totally honest with you, man. But Mark's personal opinion is I don't believe he should be fired. My personal opinion, not me. You go to the Western Conference Finals last year, you lose to the champions. You lose this year to the reigning champions who could potentially be the champions again this year.
Starting point is 00:37:56 We don't know, but they're probably the favorites right now. So it isn't like you're just losing to New Orleans or just losing at random. You're losing to the champions. That used to be James Harden's argument when he was in Houston a lot. Like, oh, James, you're not winning
Starting point is 00:38:15 or you didn't make it to the championship. And James Harden used to argue and say, I'm losing against a super team. Every year I lose to the Golden State Warriors and y'all act like I'm just losing to a regular team. I'm losing to Kevin Durant,
Starting point is 00:38:28 Steph Curry, Draymond Green, Klay Thompson. So don't act like I'm just out here losing to people. And I think that's fair for Darwin Hamm.
Starting point is 00:38:37 Now, did he have some mistakes in this series? Absolutely. He finished one game with two timeouts. Then he didn't have any timeouts to combat after Murray hit that shot with three seconds left.
Starting point is 00:38:51 But what happens is you lose them timeouts when LeBron and the other players are saying, challenge, challenge, challenge. And he's like, I don't know if I should challenge. Challenge. I'm telling you, you got to challenge. Then if you don't challenge the call, the players get mad. Then when you challenge't challenge the call, the players get mad.
Starting point is 00:39:07 Then when you challenge it and lose, you lose a timeout. So they didn't have any timeouts because niggas kept wanting them to challenge everything. So then you blame him for not having timeouts. When not just LeBron,
Starting point is 00:39:18 other players too would sit there and say, challenge. Every time these niggas don't get a call, they wait. Challenge. Challenge. And so they're don't get a call, they wait. Challenge. Challenge.
Starting point is 00:39:27 And so they're blaming him for a lot of that. But what you said is also true. A lot of them may have tapped out on him. Anthony Davis was saying slick shit about him after the game too, I believe. You know what I'm saying? But I can't get mad at a nigga who won to the Western Conference Finals, lose to the champions, lose to the champions, reign the champions,
Starting point is 00:39:47 and then potentially could be the champions this year. So if Denver wins this year, we don't know yet. Is it Darwin's fault too? If he beats all,
Starting point is 00:39:57 if Mike Malone beats all the other coaches? That's just me. So that's just my opinion. I don't think he should be fired. Yeah, it's his fault because he keeps playing the same team
Starting point is 00:40:06 and keep coming. He's not making no changes. That's kind of honestly, yeah. You're going to have to run into them no matter what, bro. At the end of the day,
Starting point is 00:40:19 you're going to have to run into Denver or one of these teams no matter what. But it looks bad because it's the first round. Yeah. And then there is a quote by him
Starting point is 00:40:28 that I'm curious on you guys' opinion on it. He said, it's amazing how people just get that core part of having a consistency with your lineup is all predicated
Starting point is 00:40:37 on health and performance. If you're coaching a team and one of your starters is like 10 games in a row just shitting the bed, what are you going to do? So obviously we don't know
Starting point is 00:40:46 what starter he's talking about but how do you feel about that quote coming from him? What does that mean though? What does that statement mean? I'm assuming just the starter that is just flopping
Starting point is 00:40:55 10 games in a row so I'm like I don't know who he's subbing starving the ass. Can you repeat the quote? It's amazing how people just skip that core part
Starting point is 00:41:04 of having a consistency with your lineup is all predicated on health and performance. If you're coaching a team and one of your starters is like 10 games in a row, just shitting the bed. What are you going to do? I heard a piss in the bed. What does that mean? What does he mean by that? I don't know, because to be honest with you,
Starting point is 00:41:29 maybe D-Lo, because look, Anthony Davis, as much as like you said, we play games and talk shit, that nigga played 76 games this year. That's the most amount of games he played in his career ever.
Starting point is 00:41:39 Yeah. And he showed up. He did show up. LeBron James. See, that's the problem for me, though, Murda, is that you get Anthony did show up. LeBron James. See, that's the problem for me, though, Murda, is that you get Anthony Davis show up all year. You get LeBron James show up all year.
Starting point is 00:41:52 And you're still in the playing. You know what I'm saying? So you give Reeves this money. D-Lo wants to be a part of shit when he wants to be a part of shit. You know, there's in the huddle the other day, he was on the cell phone just chilling, doing some. You know, there's in the huddle the other day, he was on the cell phone just chilling, doing some other shit while everybody else is in the huddle. And then when he finally hit a three, he running up
Starting point is 00:42:10 like this. I'm like, nigga, listen, you've been missing for 30 games, nigga. So I think when Darwin here says that, he hear players taking little shots at him so he like, well, what do you do when you're playing shits the bag?
Starting point is 00:42:27 He's not just your player, pardon me, your starter shits the bag. You know he's not talking about AD. You know he's not talking about LeBron. And a lot of people were saying, should he take D'Angelo Russell out of the starting lineup? And he's like, I'm not going to do that. We're in the middle of the playoffs,
Starting point is 00:42:43 and I think that's who he should stick with. D'Angelo, he have a great game. Next game, he don't score shit. What can you do with that? Okay.
Starting point is 00:42:54 We're going to go to break. And when we return, we will discuss another quote from LeBron concerning his future. Don't go anywhere. Four years and counting Got you feeling like an option Maybe I'm my own problem, babe She tired of hearing, I don't know What's happening, me won't fall, oh, oh Dealing with this thing called trust
Starting point is 00:43:38 But she really thinking about wanting me free Why am I in this woman? She want to be free. Welcome back. Now let's get into our Underdog Fantasy picks of the day. Tonight, the Mavs will play the Clippers. Underdog Fantasy has Luka at 32 and a half points. Do you have him higher or lower?
Starting point is 00:44:01 Higher. About 35. Yeah, I'm'm gonna go higher too Kyrie's had a 40 piece he's at 29 I think it's his go okay Paul George is at
Starting point is 00:44:10 10 and a half rebounds and assists do you have him higher or lower Cam? I'm gonna go he out of score I'm gonna go lower rebounds
Starting point is 00:44:22 and assists 10? 10 and a half higher that's the goal okay and James Harden is at 8 assists
Starting point is 00:44:31 do you have him higher or lower Mace? 8 assists higher higher hey download the Underdog Fantasy app and you can make
Starting point is 00:44:38 your picks too so in a post game interview a lot of people have asked LeBron James his next steps which is nothing new. I think we're always hearing people asking those questions. He said he wanted to focus on family.
Starting point is 00:44:49 And in one soundbite, he said, what more is left? I've done everything I can do. So, like, at some point, you got to hang it up. When do you guys think he'll hang it up? Do you guys think he's still waiting for Bronny or you think it's going to be a different situation? I think I don't believe any of it. LeBron is not hanging
Starting point is 00:45:10 it up. He's basically saying this because they had a difficult time going out on this game five. The way to take all the pressure, not pressure off, but way to just sway the narrative
Starting point is 00:45:26 is to say, hey, you know, at some point you got to hang it up because at that point, you're not going to be talking about they lost. You're going to be doing things to keep them around. So it was a chess move. It's nothing different than what he normally does. A great chess move. But, you know, as a terrific player that he is, he'll be back. He'll be, the team will be better.
Starting point is 00:45:50 And I don't see them leaving out next, next year as the first round. I think they'll do much better. And he's looking for a way to
Starting point is 00:45:59 figure out what he's doing with him and his son. I think they will play together. And I think the biggest thing left for him to do is with him and his son. I think they will play together. And I think the biggest thing left for him to do is to win with his son. Whether his son or not,
Starting point is 00:46:11 he said, I've seen that interview, that postgame. He said he doesn't know if his son's going to come to the NBA or going to college. He said they're still pondering on that decision.
Starting point is 00:46:19 But he's too good of a basketball player. He's not no bum. He's not washed up. He's still basketball player. He's not no bum. He's not washed up. He's still a superstar. He's still probably top 15 players, if not top 10, depending on people's lists,
Starting point is 00:46:35 so on and so forth. But this is, again, this is people asking questions. We just talked about this yesterday's show, I believe it was. People ask questions. When you answer the questions, you take the sound bite from the answer
Starting point is 00:46:46 and then you create a hole. Is LeBron leaving? Oh my God, I don't know. LeBron said about 15 different things throughout the season. LeBron said he's going to play
Starting point is 00:46:55 until he's 45 years old. He said when he's 40 years old, he's just going to play with his left hand for the next five years. He said he's going to play with his son. He said he's going to,
Starting point is 00:47:03 LeBron is trolling because y'all are trolling. You ask him his questions, he gives you the answers, and now you run off and it's a topic to talk about. Kid is too good to retire. What I will say is this. When they ask them, is this his last game in a Laker uniform? I don't know.
Starting point is 00:47:19 Because I think that he has a great situation in L.A. with his businesses, with Maverick, with Rich, with Randy, his wife, his kids. They're pretty much set up at L.A., but I think LeBron looks at legacy. He's a historian on basketball, and I know that he knows no player ever in NBA history won four titles with four different teams, and I think he may be the first to want to do that. I'm not saying he doesn't want to be a Laker. Not saying he's not coming back to the Laker.
Starting point is 00:47:47 But I know he's keeping that. So where would he have to go? New York. Put the Empire song on. I ain't want to say it. New York! I'm just saying, LeBron James on the Knicks next year. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:07 And I really feel, and I'm not saying that the East hasn't got much better, which it has, but I really think that LeBron has no respect for no players on the East Coast. Yeah. I really. Him against Tatum.
Starting point is 00:48:21 He know he can. I think the nigga went to the finals 10 years in a row. I think he looks at the East Coast as a nerf basketball. The West is strong. Yeah, the East, he like, I'm getting to the chip. No matter what, I'm getting to the chip. So it's something to look at. But if you're asking me on a personal note,
Starting point is 00:48:40 he's too situated in Los Angeles outside of basketball, and basketball-wise too, to get up and move. But if he's a historian of the game, he wants to break new barriers and reach new territory that no NBA player has done,
Starting point is 00:48:55 you have to take that into consideration as well. Okay. And then the Mike Tyson versus Jake Paul fight will be officially classified as a sanctioned professional fight.
Starting point is 00:49:06 31 year age gap will also be the biggest in history. So thoughts on the new classification for the fight and how we feel about it as we're not close enough, but getting closer to it. All I care about for Mike is that Mike does not lose or get knocked out. This will be horrible for you, Mike. You know, you're from a fellow New Yorker. We love Mike Tyson. Mike can't lose this, killer. If he loses this, this will be bad. Jake Paul will be on the top of the mountain if he knocked Mike out. If he knocked Mike out with 14-ounce gloves, this would be record-breaking. I don't know what else.
Starting point is 00:49:54 If I was Jake Paul after I knocked Mike out, I'd probably make a T-shirt about it or something. His merch is going up. Everything is going up. He can't lose to Mike. I mean, he can't lose. He can't lose to Jake Paul. I'm praying he can't lose. He can't lose to Jake Paul. I'm praying he doesn't. Now, if he knocked Jake Paul out, niggas won't be surprised.
Starting point is 00:50:12 Yeah, it's not a big surprise if he knocks him out. But if Jake Paul knocks Mike out, will you swing on Mike after that? No. You still ain't? Never. I'm just playing. Shout out to Jake Paul.
Starting point is 00:50:26 No. Jake Paul sees something. Jake Paul's a great marketer. You have to realize, I know there's so many boxes that's so mad at him because of his business. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:37 I think of how he brings He skipped a line. Definitely skipped a line. We got to think about this. I'm not going to say names, and I remember a bunch of boxes was pissed off at Conor McGregor when he made that hundred million because they was like, now we all know Conor McGregor's own entity, superstar
Starting point is 00:50:57 in the UFC, international superstar. But boxers was mad because they say his first fight he made a hundred million. His first boxing match. Some niggas is like, how a nigga make a hundred on the first boxing match is wild, man.
Starting point is 00:51:13 So, Jake Paul knows the recipe to make money. He's figured it out. And I don't know who, you know, I'm going to go with Mike, but if Jake,
Starting point is 00:51:22 if Jake Paul runs for eight, nine rounds, I don't know how many rounds it is, and Mike isn't prepared, standing Mawaz, then we might see a tie of Mike Tyson in the seventh round, seven, eight, or nine. I asked Roy Jones about fighting Mike Tyson when he fought him, and I said, Mike Tyson smoked weed. Roy said, well, it seemed like the weed making
Starting point is 00:51:45 was breathed better because he wasn't tired. And I'm like, bro, that's what he fought me. Roy said, I don't know what the weed doing for him, but the nigga still was punching hard eight rounds, round seven, eight, and nine. But what I was about to tell you is Netflix reached out to me and they want us to come to the fight
Starting point is 00:52:02 to do a live show from the mike tyson jay paul fight so we'll be in the build i didn't talk to mason snap but i was assuming that they would want to do that so we'll be there and then i told them they need to let us commentate they said slow down we're going they said they said chill out let's let's do one thing at a time. So hopefully we'll get the commentator. That's not guaranteed, but we'll definitely be at the fight for Jake Paul and Mike Tyson and Netflix. Thank you for calling us up and thank you for the invite. We really appreciate it.
Starting point is 00:52:36 Super, super dope. Okay. And then take made some comments about Mayweather after his arrest in Dubai. Tang posted, you tried to leave today. They said, nope, sit still before I fuck you up. In the second post, he shared a clip from a movie saying,
Starting point is 00:52:50 you ain't the motherfucking man no more. I'm the one. So thoughts on just their back and forth. Who was arrested? Mayweather. Oh, he was official now? He was arrested? That's what sources are saying.
Starting point is 00:53:05 So that's... Cite your sources. The sources here, it's saying that he has unpaid debt, but I don't know. I don't see no specific records, but it's saying international media revealed
Starting point is 00:53:17 Dubai authorities detained him on unspecified charges. Authorities. So I'm just reading the... Well, let me ask you this, Murdo. And I'm not taking one side. No. Why he ain't back yet.
Starting point is 00:53:28 I don't, I don't know why he's not back. I know it was a flood out there. A bad flood. So you couldn't get the flights going out, but that flood and move by now. It's going. That flood and move by now.
Starting point is 00:53:41 I'm sorry. My bad. You know, I love Floyd. But I, I love Floyd. Yeah, Floyd. But I praise well, man, because, you know, when you're over there in Dubai, you're dealing with A-Raps. That's why I don't like going out to country unless I got to, bro. You're dealing with A-Raps.
Starting point is 00:53:59 And if the money get funny, that's not the place. You're not going to get any sympathy from the Arabs now. And we love the Saudis, right? Absolutely. People know they pay well and all of that,
Starting point is 00:54:13 but they're not playing about their money. They need their cash now. You know, Murda, I don't know if, well, you'd be in a loop, but this ain't really,
Starting point is 00:54:21 you know, you know a lot of girls go to Dubai to get shit on. To get poop you know, you know, a lot of girls. Go to Dubai. To get shit on. Get pooped on, yeah. Yeah. Where the fuck you be at? I don't know who you are.
Starting point is 00:54:35 Who are you? I don't even know that. Yeah, they come back with the sauna and all that. Yeah, the girls go out there to get shitted on and be like, yo, nigga can shit on me for $30,000 real quick. And the disrespect of the Saudis to even say, yo, book them American bitches so we can shit on them and thaw what we're going to make in the next 20 minutes.
Starting point is 00:54:59 It's crazy. It's crazy. And if they're paying them $ to urine on them and then 30 to poop on them, that's crazy. And they go out there in groups. Yeah, yeah, they do. I guess. I don't know. And they come back with Birkins and teeth.
Starting point is 00:55:18 Yeah. Birkins and teeth is wild. They come back with Birkins and Teep is crazy. It's crazy like that, you know? Yeah. Well, listen, back to the Tank and Mayweather, before I leave the Saudi shit out of it, I don't know what's going on with that.
Starting point is 00:55:40 Tank is really angry, and I believe it's because of Floyd siding with Ryan during the Haney fight. And he was like, look, I just fought this nigga Ryan. Now you're on his side. So let's break this down real quick from Cam's understanding. Tank fights Ryan. Tank wins. No rehydration clause.
Starting point is 00:56:02 So Ryan Pano was a shell of himself because he couldn't gain the weight whatever but didn't didn't Floyd give him that advice to make that fight that way
Starting point is 00:56:11 exactly 100% then from what I understand then next you know Ryan fights fights Devin
Starting point is 00:56:19 and Bill is kind of trolling Floyd this whole you know whether it's about the fight or not about the fight. So Floyd gets in Ryan's ear and tells him what to do. And now people are looking at that like Floyd is a sucker for helping Ryan out.
Starting point is 00:56:35 Why would he do that? But I believe it wasn't nothing to do with Tank. It wasn't nothing to do with Devin. It's about Bill. Keep fucking with him. So he said, I bet you want me to be involved. Cool. And now people may feel slighted because Floyd is cool with Ryan when I believe
Starting point is 00:56:50 Floyd was taunted to do that. That's my opinion. Tank said he gonna knock him out when he see him. Floyd showed a video of Tank dancing and said, if we knew this boy, he always had some sugar in his tank. When he was patting his hips.
Starting point is 00:57:06 Oh yeah, when he was twirling his hips or some shit. I don't know which video, but then he said, you know, this has the potential to be a problem.
Starting point is 00:57:15 Yeah. This is really than the rap shit. Yeah, this is Rocky versus Tommy Guns. Right. This has the potential
Starting point is 00:57:21 to be bigger than the rap beef. So, I wish them brothers would work it out, man. At the rap beef. So, I wish them brothers would work it out, man. At the end of the day, I'm fans of both of them. But it seems like
Starting point is 00:57:29 they always constantly taking Floyd, I'm talking about, something constantly, constantly getting in the way of their friendship. And I don't know
Starting point is 00:57:39 exactly what it is and I don't know if it could be fixed, but I know they'll be beefing and then Floyd will be at the fight telling them what to do
Starting point is 00:57:46 from the crowd like yo if you see da da da so I believe Floyd has genuine love for him but it's just something not right with their relationship yeah it seemed like
Starting point is 00:57:55 when it comes to Tank Tank sees him as jealous and Floyd sees him as ungrateful which makes it a a recipe for disaster. That's a great way to put it. Because you're looking at this person like, why is he not
Starting point is 00:58:09 thankful? And you're looking at him like, this nigga's hating on me. This nigga don't want me to be his best. So anytime it looks like Floyd is in his corner, he celebrates it. And then when it looks like Floyd is not in his corner, he goes back to the idea
Starting point is 00:58:25 that Floyd is jealous of him. Cause you'll see clips of him saying, you know, when I'm in these situations, I go with what Floyd said, cause Floyd's been there, this and that. And then the next day it's either drugs or something, it's something going on because it's not consistent at all. Okay, and then real quick before we wrap, we got a special guest. I'm sure you guys have been waiting to put the name to the face. Introducing Sin City.
Starting point is 00:58:56 Sin, what up? And also... We're trying to show the Knicks hat. Yeah, and also shout out to Javon Tinnem. I didn't mean it like that. And Calvin Forrest said he's going to come up to the show. Yeah, we would love to have him on.
Starting point is 00:59:10 Definitely. So, what's up? So, look, real quick. Let me, hold on, hold on, hold on. Yo, let me get a solo real quick. Send me and this nigga all you every day. And he has a list of things.
Starting point is 00:59:23 We always talk about him. For those that don't know season 3 episode 11 this is the guy that says we trade gold for wi-fi with the aliens this is him and then he has a list of every day what me and mace don't do right on the show we it's a it isn't just and he's a super duper nicks fan but I told him to make a list because he said he's speaking for the people. The people in New York or Mars. Oh yeah, because we're dealing, been doing business with them in Mars too.
Starting point is 00:59:57 So, Sin, welcome to the show, Sin City. We don't have a lot of time, Sin. We'll bring you back again. You're supposed to be on the show, but you tore your Achilles. We have about five to six minutes. What are you mad at me, Mace? Oh, yeah, he said you too.
Starting point is 01:00:12 I've seen it. Oh, he tagged you. Oh, yeah, yeah. What are you mad at us about? Well, first of all, it's crazy. We get the last five minutes, you know.
Starting point is 01:00:24 I don't know what y'all been talking about, diarrhea in Dubai all this time. Like, I don't know what y'all been talking about. Diarrhea in Dubai all this time. I don't know what y'all been talking about. Hold on. We talked about the Knicks first. The first topic of the show. How long did it last? A good amount, actually.
Starting point is 01:00:41 You're questioning all y'all. How long did it last was crazy. was real wow real that's how you start to show that was local real crazy wait i want to get back to something y'all said um because y'all know y'all forget what people did yesterday so i want to ask y'all you said the faces of the nba only have championships is that what y'all said or y'all corrected that only have championships? Is that what y'all said? Or y'all corrected that?
Starting point is 01:01:09 Send us new hotness. So none of y'all said Iverson, Vest Carter, T-Mac, Yao Ming. These were faces of the NBA with no championships. Y'all can't always go with the new hotness. You gotta give credit to the people
Starting point is 01:01:27 that play. You can't do that. Steph. Yes. Every time you bring up the Knicks, you say nothing else. You ask one question and then you go away. You never give
Starting point is 01:01:43 us no credit. You never give us no credit. You never talk about our injuries. Y'all talking about Batman, Robin, Super Mario. Let's talk about everybody else. You don't give a fuck. Nothing about our injuries. Okay. Nothing.
Starting point is 01:01:55 Can I ask you a question? Why is that? Why do you guys get a pass and other teams don't? Because a lot of other teams have injuries and stuff going on too. I'm not going to call out y'alls and then not the rest. But we get an injury in the last whole season. It happens to every team. Jalen Brunson has been playing 21 by herself.
Starting point is 01:02:13 Well, Jalen Brunson has been playing 21 by herself. Alright, next question. The lime green neck hat is crazy. With the stick on Yeah Yeah
Starting point is 01:02:25 Does y'all comment On how dirty Philly is And how the refs is I don't know Maybe cousins With underdogs Something There's some betting
Starting point is 01:02:34 Going on Nobody commenting On that Cousins with underdogs Somebody's the cousin Of the CEO The refs are Blatantly cheating
Starting point is 01:02:45 and nobody's saying nothing Jalen Brunson gets fouled every play they holding him Batum Umbre and they hold him every play nobody says nothing y'all just go up here and say
Starting point is 01:02:58 we won or we lost real quick Sim before we move on you named some great faces of the NBA those were very good but they weren't the face
Starting point is 01:03:09 of the NBA they were in the NBA Allen Iverson Allen Iverson now he could have been the face but he was he's too much
Starting point is 01:03:15 one of us to be the face of the NBA he was our face but he wasn't the face of the NBA we warned him to
Starting point is 01:03:23 same thing like we was talking about with John Morant he had potential to be the face of the NBA. We want him to. Same thing like we was talking about with John Morant. He had potential to be the face of the NBA. But once you start doing nigga shit, that kind of goes out the window. And I believe with Allen Iverson, he definitely had potential to be face of the NBA.
Starting point is 01:03:36 But he wanted to do a rap album. He wanted to do cornrows. And we loved it all. Loved it. And not just black people. People in general loved it. And you're damn right, when the Philadelphia 76ers played,
Starting point is 01:03:49 he was the marquee player for the Philadelphia 76ers. But he wasn't the face. Yeah, instead of wearing suits, he wore the long white tee. Yeah. So he was our favorite, but as far as David Stern
Starting point is 01:04:01 marketed in the NBA, that was not David Stern's face in the NBA. But I like the names you brought up, man. You're learning, man. Go ahead. I just wanted to answer
Starting point is 01:04:12 one of your questions. Yeah, y'all mean was the poster child for foreigners to play in the NBA. Yeah. So you had a good idea. He was close.
Starting point is 01:04:26 So we forgot about Vince Carter. we see a little Ant-Man Duncan we just forget all about Vance Carter listen so when we say face something you gotta think about it right you got Magic Johnson you got Larry Bird then you get Michael Jordan then after Michael Jordan you got Shaquille O'Neal and Kobe after Kobe you get LeBron
Starting point is 01:04:42 James then they arguing about Steph Curry or LeBron James. Who's this? When we say the face, we're not talking about faces, of the NBA. You're talking about one face. One face, of course. So the names you name were good,
Starting point is 01:04:55 but we're saying who's the face of the NBA. So I like, like Mace said, you got good intent. Yeah, you got great intent, man. Okay, so he was calling Air Canada for nothing. Okay, all right. Do you live in Canada, son? He had an old country named after him. Look, man, he's mad.
Starting point is 01:05:16 You know what, Mace? Let me just, real quick, Mace. Let me just tell you what's going on because we got about three minutes for him. He's mad at you for comparing Ant-Man to Jordan and you saying that he had Jordan vibes, so he just won't come out and say he's trying to be subliminal about it. When I understand
Starting point is 01:05:31 where you're coming from, I see where... He definitely got Jordan vibes, and what's your take on that? He's dunking on niggas. He's having his way. They went in playoff games even earlier than Jordan won playoff games. True.
Starting point is 01:05:46 And remember, he mixed up just like Jordan mixed up Larry Bird. He's mixing up KD and them. That's equivalent. He have 63. But Jordan has 63 and Lawson. I'm just asking. No, he didn't have 63. No, he didn't have 63. I'd rather have 31 and go to the next round.
Starting point is 01:06:12 And swept the Hall of Famers. He's sweeping Hall of Famers. Very true, Murda. That was just an accident. That was an accident. Four times? An accident. Four times? An accident?
Starting point is 01:06:28 Four times? I'm going on a record. A-Man is giving you joint vibes. Y'all said John Morant was giving A.I. and D. Rose vibes, and he's done none of that yet. Why do y'all always compare? Why do y'all do that? Like, y'all make people forget
Starting point is 01:06:46 about what people did a couple of years ago, and then you know what they gonna do? Oh, them old niggas. Why do y'all contribute to that? I believe when we say Ja Morant is like an AI or D-Rose, I think that makes people remember
Starting point is 01:07:02 them. Yeah, we giving the credit to the GOATs. Yeah, we're giving the credit to the GOATs. Yeah, we're sitting there saying, if we're comparing them to those great players, then we're saying they have those type of odds. Are we saying that they are them players? No. I said the first year of murder,
Starting point is 01:07:15 that John Morant plays similar to AI. He been hating John Morant ever since, just because I said that. Everything is John Morant. So he definitely mad with me about the MJ vibes. Yeah, yeah. That's what I'm trying me about the MJ vibes yeah he got an attitude man why couldn't you go Russell Westbrook
Starting point is 01:07:31 that's more John Moran Russell Westbrook he hype he come down throw it on niggas they giving us the cue we'll give us two more we'll bring you on once a week for telling why you mad I will we'll give you two more a week for telling why you're mad you got to give up we'll give you two more questions because nick and them is telling us we're giving us this thing
Starting point is 01:07:51 all right um philadelphia messed up my my party in the heights in the barbershop tonight so i'm kind of upset about that uh i'm upset that y'all don't believe anything that's not right there y'all have to believe in UFOs. You have to. So it's 10,000 other planets out there, and y'all think we're the only ones that exist? It's kind of crazy. When you look up in the sky, what do you see? You see other planets.
Starting point is 01:08:21 Oh, y'all going to be quiet now? And y'all rely too much on y'all phones. If the Booker Eli happens, y'all not gonna know what to do. Y'all rely everything you want to pay with your phone. You want to pay this, you want to pay that. And you're getting scammed. You know that somebody could tap in
Starting point is 01:08:38 and steal $10 from you every day and you ain't gonna know, right? All right. Send it through Western Union. You want to send me some bread or I want to send some bread, you go to Western Union so you can write down and show your ID of how much.
Starting point is 01:08:58 I noticed you can't buy weed with a phone. You can't do that. Why is that? You know why? Because there's no niggas who sell pounds. Drug dealers use a fucking cash app, son. Let me ask you a question
Starting point is 01:09:12 before we go. What's up? How much gold do we have to trade to get one Wi-Fi code? No, we got SOFA. That's what we got.
Starting point is 01:09:29 That's the important. Let's stay with it. Remember this word, SOFA. Comes out the volcanoes. They need that. That's what they need. So we negotiate. For what?
Starting point is 01:09:38 Huh? What do they need it for? I don't know what they need it for. Whatever that they got. I told you before, they won't teach us how to fly. Who is they? Who is how to who is they who is they who is they i can't when when you say aliens people start laughing so i'm gonna just say the other no just say aliens because do you know what class of aliens if there's aliens are they like ranks yeah yeah they got like classes of them. They got different mixtures of them. They look different.
Starting point is 01:10:06 They got their own army. You got to look at the interviews. Look at Bob Lazar. Bob Lazar, other captains. You know, Bob Lazar was on Netflix. All you got to do is watch it. Bob Lazar was on Netflix, and then they interviewed a corporal that dealt with them, and they called him Tall Graze. How do you pay for your Netflix subscription? Do you use your phone?
Starting point is 01:10:32 He just found out that YouTube's on TV. He's been watching YouTube on his phone for like the last seven years. Yo, Stat, you got a lot of money in there that's scamming you every day, and you don't even know. Somebody could take $5 or $10 from you every day for a whole year and you won't know. That's another thing. Real quick, because I want you to tell him and just so you have a look. He doesn't like debit cards or credit cards. Everything should be cash. And he doesn't understand why those exist.
Starting point is 01:10:59 So, Sin, here go a good question because we're on a sports show. Why don't the aliens have a team in the Olympics? No, they don't want to associate with us. They look at us like stupid people. You know what I mean? Where you going? No, listen. They look at us.
Starting point is 01:11:20 You got to think. They've been flying. It's a UFO picture in the Mona Lisa. They've been flying since the beginning. All right, Sin. We definitely got to bring you back. It was a pleasure. We want to hear you talk more, Nix, and a lot of things.
Starting point is 01:11:33 They don't want to be bothering with us. In the comments, please give us a list of questions that you want us to ask, Sin, because you might as well. Great introduction. That's all the time we have for today. Thanks for watching and as always. You want to pick up
Starting point is 01:11:48 the next stat? What'd you say? You going to start talking about this? You going to start talking about this more? We ain't done talking. There's another game
Starting point is 01:11:55 to be played. So I'm sure you will be back and you have a lot to say. So yes, that is all the time that we have for today. Thanks for watching and as always,
Starting point is 01:12:04 it is what it is. It is what it is. What you want, nigga? Everything nigga supersize Two big necks Like when they doing them two for five

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