IT IS WHAT IT IS - AN MVP TYPE PERFORMANCE IN GAME 2 FOR SGA, BELICHICKS' LEGACY & THE PED OLYMPICS!
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Hello y'all, uh
I was selling crack on a private jet up in a hell and back
But no confusion, this a reunion
Hello y'all, welcome back
Yeah, Murda here, he countin' money
He said, can't man the hell we're at
I'm only here to shit on niggas and piss on bitches
Welcome ass, I bought jewelry and bikes, nigga
Black fences and white vigas
Now I'm out here and I'm lookin looking for more chandeliers and light pictures
now I don't like niggas what's wrong with me I'm all right nigga but there's 44 turn the mic to
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Cam. Mace will be back and today we are joined with our analyst Maurice Claret.
Mo, what's up, man? What's happening? All is well. Life is great. My life is great.
Yo, snap birthday. Happy birthday, snap. Thank you.
Okay, happy birthday, snap. There we go. Thanks. Another year older and it's actually starting to feel like it. How old are you today?
24.
24.
Yeah.
24 years young.
Yeah. What would be you guys' like biggest thing of advice for my 24 year old self?
What would you guys tell me?
I'm serious. I want to know.
I like Kam go.
What is your advice?
It ain't even about your age.
To me, the biggest advice I could give you is just know that you somebody out there now.
Pick and choose what you do.
Everybody's a target.
See the punish all type of shit popping out.
I'll be back. that you somebody out there now and pick and choose what you do wisely man everybody's a target
see the punish all type of shit popping out on the phone man you know i'll be picking and choosing
who you fuck with man just can't be fucking with anybody any and everybody you can't trust people
and when you it ain't even about your age it's about your status right now just can't be around
hanging out with everybody telling people you're been been, not saying you do, if you ask them for advice, niggas will use it later against you.
So many people out there right now because of the internet and podcasts and not just
after sports, but people take a dollar to tell their story about somebody else, because they was a leech or a
side piece or, or a entourage and they feel that they didn't
get what they deserve and they'll sit there and talk about
you later. So just pick and choose who you hang with and be
around wisely. That's the advice I would give you.
That part. And Maurice.
I don't know how you follow up after that.
As he was saying with the, basically what Cam is saying,
you be talking about me, basically what he's saying is,
these Negroes gonna be trying to fuck you
because they see you on the internet all the time.
So take care of yourself, Stat.
That's what he's saying. Not just not just niggas though I'm talking about
girls too. Like I said it ain't just about niggas definitely Mo is 100% right but girls too they'll
be jealous and they'll sit there and act like they helped you build your legacy and everything
else and later on they'll be ready to talk about you, man.
I can give you a hundred examples.
I just don't even wanna give the people that opportunity
that's trying to do shit to other people.
I sit there all day looking at people that say,
yo, nigga, give me a hundred thousand.
I'll tell you everything about this nigga.
And for real.
The trial is letting you listen.
Puffy trial should let everybody know how wicked is getting out here in these streets.
I'll be careful man.
Shoot I was looking for something maybe like positive but that's real.
What you planning on doing for your birthday stat?
I'm going to combo.
You going to combo? OK, there you go.
So nice little vacation.
And yeah, I'm excited.
But thank you.
I see you upgraded your camera, obviously.
Are you lighting or something?
OK, OK, there we go.
Get into the camera.
I'm learning, y'all.
Get in there. There we go.
So, yeah.
Yeah, I appreciate y'all for
the birthday wishes and thanks for the advice. Y'all know I take y'all's advice to heart
because y'all always lead me the right way. So I appreciate that always. And I'm just
in a good, good mood, good spirits. Yeah. You should be big stuff. There you go. Okay, so let's get into this game. Okay, see, beat the Timberwolves 118 to 103
to have a 2-0 lead in the series. Maurice, what went wrong for the Timberwolves? How'd you feel
about this game? Oh, from just my personal assessment, and I like to set the premise by
saying I'm no basketball expert. I've never played in the NBA, I've never
played college. But from my clear observation, and I don't
know if I'm, I may be like everybody else where you see the
intensity from the Pacers versus the Knicks, right? And you
understand this is conference finals basketball. From the top
of the game, I just didn't see the intensity from the top of the game, I just didn't see the intensity from the Timberwolves, right?
The first quarter was sort of mundane, both teams going back and forth.
You're seeing what you expect out of both superstars.
The second quarter was really like mundane and the same, but it never felt like the Timberwolves
being on the road that they were trying to win the game.
Like you just didn't see this fierceness. I don't know if it felt more
of like a like a regular season game that OKC just had control of. That was
just my personal opinion. And as the game got as the game got towards the third
and fourth quarter, like you've seen these spurts of intensity by Ant-Man, obviously Julius Randall didn't or wasn't able to deliver the way that
he did.
And you can check the stat line and what he had.
I just know he wasn't able to perform well, but it just didn't seem like from an energetic
execution intensity, sense of urgency standpoint that the Wolves came to play.
Obviously SGA showed you why he was the MVP in a magnificent game,
in a big game. He stepped up and it felt like he was owning the moment. I know Ant-Man had 32 points,
but those 32 points felt more like he just got them within the rhythm of the game and it wasn't
like he was dominating. And after the game, I was talking to my guys, I was like, yo, it felt like
I just didn't feel Ant-Man's 32 points throughout the game, right?
They didn't feel dominant.
It didn't feel like, you know, I'm putting the team on my back.
Like those last few possessions, like I was saying, he had done a great job of trying
to take the game and chuck shots up.
But I don't know, I just kept, this is what I'll say, I'll end this by saying this.
I don't see how the Timberwolves after that performance in the first game,
I don't see how they even have a chance of winning. You know, I think this is SGA's time,
I think this is OKC's time. And I just think that they're going to be a hard team to beat.
That is my personal opinion. Yeah, look, to be honest with you,
it's not going to happen with Julius Randall. One day, first game, Julius Randall has a great game.
Second game, he has six points.
It's not going to work like that.
The first game, Ant-Man doesn't play that well.
Ant-Man plays well the second game and Julius Randall's not going to.
When you're in this deep in the playoffs, your one-two punch matters when your team
is based off a one-two punch. And one day somebody's doing good, the next game person isn't. And right to the
next game, the same scenario. So that's not going to work. That's first and foremost.
And right now it just looks like OKC is, I don't want to say the best because the paces
look good, the next game look bad at all either. But the most cohesive team right now, these guys have been together the last year, two
years and it's actually showing.
When Shea won that MVP yesterday, you fucked with your, the way to get your team to fuck
with you is doing shit he did.
Buy niggas Rolexes so they could get out there and want to motherfucking play basketball for
you and want to bust niggas ass.
Like if this will be, and if we winning,
this nigga's that nigga, then yeah, this what I want.
So it's kinda like, I don't remember,
if you guys remember, pardon me, not now,
I don't remember, I don't know if you guys remember,
but when Ken Ward bought, in college,
he bought his whole team chains.
You know, that matters.
That matters.
That boosts morale,
it boosts morale for your team
and people wanna play and they like,
oh, this is all the extra shit.
This is my nigga right here.
So even when I see Kieren Ward do that,
I'm like, he young and he get it. And you know, Shade's not saying Shade's old, but you know, he's not in college,
but he gets it. It matters when you get the people around you feel good. They feel like
they look good and they want to go play good so the shit could come on. Keep going. I have
this argument with Sin all the time. I know we talk about Monk Me and Sin's argument. But the whole point is he be feeling like, you know, he be asking me and I'll be like,
I'm the wrong person to ask because he feels like, and this a little bit off the game,
that once niggas get money, they get relaxed. And I'm like, certain people are like that. I'm
not disagreeing, but don't ask me that because I want more.
You got to think about this. Jay Gilder's Alexander is about to be up for $76 million
a year on the Supermaps. $76 million, this is unprecedented. A year. We put that into
perspective when we sit there and say Michael Jordan only made $111 million his whole basketball
career and not talking about endorsements his whole basketball career, not talking about
endorsements outside of basketball, talking about his paycheck in between the lines.
They're going to pass that in a season and a half.
Crazy.
Yeah. So when you see what's going on with OKC and they could keep that team together,
it'll eventually probably put them in a luxury tax, especially if they get to the championship or especially win it.
But it matters, Golden State was in the luxury tax
for like four or five years, but they would win.
So it didn't matter about paying, you know,
they didn't put my owners in my paying the luxury tax.
And OKC just looks really good right now.
Shea another 30 piece last night, Jay Will showed up.
Caruso has just been a problem off the bench. Not even necessarily scoring, he only had nine points, but just him being on the floor,
whether it's defensive.
Defense.
Yeah, and whether it's him getting the ball to where it needs to be.
Look, OKC looks really good and they look like the most dominant team at the present
moment. We still got a lot of basketball left to play, but I'd be lying if I told you
that I'm not disappointed in Minnesota.
What it looks like to me, and this is what's going on, and this is my opinion, and I'm
not saying that this will happen, but because they're both young enough.
If OKC dominates the series, we'll see what happens when Minnesota goes back
home. We're not going to just write. I'm not just going to write them off just yet. But
when you go back home and you don't look good or you just maybe you win by two or three
and then OKC comes and dominates you. And let's just say, for instance, OKC goes on
to win this championship. You know, like I said, we still got a lot of basketball left
and the way that Indiana looked at that in the game,
in the Eastern Conference finals, they look really good.
You can't count the Knicks out.
They were up with less than a minute left.
They just fumbled.
It missed. You know, they basically dropped the ball,
missing free throws, turnovers, little shit.
So they was in it to win it.
But if OKC ends up winning this,
to me, Ant-Man, you can sit here and say he's the old man killer. You got LeBron out, got
KD out, whatever you want. You not rattling shit. You can see it during the game. You
try to throw him on the floor. You try to step over him. None of that rattles him. He
walks away and he goes to
the next play. He looks like he can't be rattled. And that's a problem. I used to hate them
niggas when I played basketball. All professional, you try and get them riled up, little elbow
hair, talk shit to them about their girl, their mom, whatever, and they just ignore
you and go out there and get the numbers they're supposed to get.
So as much as we talk about Ant-Man beat this person,
beat that person, it looked like the person
that's really in your way is SGA.
And what you don't want this to be is Patrick Mahomes
and Anthony Edwards, you fuck around and be Josh Allen.
That'll be a problem, you know.
As much as Josh Allen won MVP last year,
but he still can't get over the hump
of beating Patrick Mahomes.
Don't let this go on for five years.
And the way it's looking, if OKC wins,
like I told you yesterday, stat asked us a question.
Who has the best chance to repeat
out of who wins the championship?
And I think it will be OKC.
Especially if they get, you know, you got to think about this.
Jay, if they win this series, he's going to get the Western Conference Playoff MVP.
And then if he wins the championship, he'll get the finals MVP, and then you got a league MVP.
So, message to Airman, don't be Josh Allen, as much as I
fuck with Josh Allen. That's my nigga. I fuck with Josh Allen.
But if you can't be Patrick Mahomes, you just can't be
Patrick Mahomes. That's just what it is. So Airman, you got
another, you know, this is Mortal Kombat, you at the end.
You gotta fight that nigga with the five, six, seven arms and all that shit.
When the champion be the champion.
So that's what I got to say about that.
Yeah, that's actually a great comparison.
I have a question for the both of you.
So Maurice, I know you were saying the Timberwolves look kind of stagnant.
And I know, Kim, you were saying you don't want to count them out yet.
But when do you guys count the Timberwolves
out? Is it this next game? If they don't win it, it's just like, boom, it's done. How are
we feeling? Maurice?
No, I've already counted the Timberwolves out and I'm going to go back to two episodes
and I talked about it about Jimmy Butler and I talk about mentality all the time. If you
tune into the show that I'm doing, you will hear me talk about mentality all of the time. If you tune into the show that I'm doing, you will hear me talk about
mentality all of the time. And I've seen Ant-Man's face and Ant-Man is a pivotal part inside of the Timber Wolf success. Cam sat here and said it, you need your dynamic duo to show up, right?
There is a time in sports, there's a time in business, there's a time in life when you can
just look at somebody's face and they realize just like Cam said, I've beat all
these old dogs.
I've beat KD, I've beat Stephen Curry, I've beat LeBron James.
I've won my crown doing that.
But now I have this person across from me that I just basically don't know how to handle.
And when I looked at Ant-Man's face, and Ant-Man went out there and had a phenomenal game,
right?
But as Cam made the comparison to Joe Burrows, I'm not Joe Burrows, Josh Allen and Patrick
Mahomes, for the special people is something else.
It's that little bit of, I don't know what it is, but it's something that those elite
guys have that other guys don't.
So I believe Ant-Man plays well,
but I don't believe those guys as a team have enough.
You're down to zero, you go home,
you have somebody playing well,
you have somebody playing with a lot of momentum,
you have somebody in this small town,
and OKC believing in it,
somebody who wants to be the face of the league,
somebody who wants all of these things,
these great things to happen in life.
And I just believe that I'm counting them out
and that OKC will go and sweep them.
And the exact question that was.
Yeah, when do you start to count the Timberwolves out?
Or because you said you haven't yet.
Yeah.
If they lose the next game,
nobody ever came back from 3-0.
So, you know, to me it's based upon the next game, nobody ever came back from 3-0. So it's, you know, to me it's based upon the next game.
Do I think right now the way OK Senior is looking, they're going to win the series
here?
But I don't want to just write niggas off to where they're not going to win a game.
Last year they only, I mean, I know it's a different team with Trades and Caddys and
things, et cetera.
But last year they only won one game in the Western Conference Finals when they played Dallas. But when you're actually when I'm gonna write them off, they lose
the next game. It's not history says they're written off. But we'll see what happens next game
because even if they win, it depends on how they win. So I'll wait till next game before I get them
out of here. I'm not gonna say they'll get swept or anything else,
because at the end of the day, Denver took them seven.
You know what I'm saying?
And if the same Minnesota can't get a game, I'm not going to do that.
I'm not saying Mo is wrong, but I'm just saying I'm not.
I'm personally not going to just say, damn, you're going to get swept.
Because we talk about the superstars of the league and
people, we've been talking about this who's the face of the league and this guy in the third,
the last couple days or mentioned it the last couple weeks. And if Ant-Man gets swept,
then I don't think that's a conversation. My personal opinion, as good as he is,
athletic dynamic plays, so on and so forth, I don't even really think we's a conversation. My personal opinion is good as he is, athletic dynamic plays, so on and so forth.
I don't even really think we have the conversation
of who's the face of the league at the moment.
It should be Shea Gilder's Alexander if he sweeps it man.
Secondly, being that we talk about face of the league
and so on and so forth, just real quick,
I want to tap in
because as much praise as we give in Jalen Brunson,
Ant-Man and SGA, the shit that Tyrese Halliburton
is doing is just amazing.
It's crazy and niggas still don't give him his credit.
I was watching a few different shows yesterday
and some people still refuse just to give this nigga his credit. Like yo, it was all right,
but he ain't do this or he's still not that. And I'm like, bro, it's something that I had googled
earlier and not googled the stat that was sent to me. I don't have it in front of me. I'll just
look it for it. But to make a little story short, in each series,
he has mounted a comeback in less than two minutes.
Every series, and he's the one hitting the shot.
So the first round,
I can't remember who they're playing in the first round,
but I think they was down like seven points
with less than a minute left,
and they make a comeback
and he's the one who hits the game winning jump shot.
Then last round, they play Cleveland.
He's at the foul line.
They're down two points.
He makes the first one, misses the second one, gets his own rebound, goes behind the
three and hits the three to beat the Cavs.
Milwaukee the first round.
Oh, he did that that to pardon me.
Then they do it to the Cavs.
And then you sit there and do what they did last night to the Knicks was just amazing.
Now, we're not going to act like Neesmith wasn't the one who spearheaded
what happened the night before last with with the Knicks.
But after he got everything going, to me he deserves the most credit for
that game. Tyrese Halliburton came in and finished the job and was very confident about
it. Think about this, he went to take a two. He ran to the three-point line with his back
to the basket, spun around and shot a jump shot. Thought he won the game, I thought he won the game.
Didn't win the game, setting the overtime
and not just setting the overtime,
the pace has come out and we got to stop playing
with Tyrese Halliburton name, bro.
So we still talking this Ant-Man shit.
He hasn't won the game yet in the Eastern
and the Western Conference Finals.
Tyrese Halliburton is up one zip
in the Eastern Conference Finals.
We, you know, we're starting to start mentioning to him,
I don't know about face of the league and all that other shit,
but we need to keep him, you know, because he don't have 35 or 40.
It's not needed on that team.
Maybe he could score 35 or 40 if it's needed.
This is not a team that needs that.
So, free his father, let that nigga come back to the
games.
You know what I'm saying? Free the nigga. Because, yo, you
aren't there now because at the end of the day, look, when you
play good, you get special treatment, pause. Yo, when you
play good, you get special treatment, my nigga. It's just
like that. If you wasn't playing indefinitely. Yeah. So you get
special treatment. Yo, free the nigga. You know what I'm saying?
The end of the day to shift the Tyrese Halliburton is done. He
can at least come back to home games. Yeah.
I agree with that. Because even though like, I think he,
I can't be like he learned his lesson,
but at this point, like I can't watch what's going on.
Like I would want to be able to be present for that.
I don't think he's going to try to swing, fight,
go up to any other players on the court.
I think he's good.
I just think that this is a big moment
that he should be in attendance for.
Well, listen, let me, I, I, I, you know, that's why I said friend,
but see certain things and I'm not saying
don't do what he did, but certain things,
when you under, when you on the radar
and people are watching, you gotta chill.
They had the nigga in the bar doing the choke sign
when Tyrese Halliburton made the shot.
Now he in the bar running around the bar like this.
It was like, see, we don't know if we can let this nigga back in the shot. Now he in a bar running around the bar like this. He was like, see, we don't know if we can let this n***a back in
the building. We don't know what his temperature is. This n***a
is wilding in a random bar in Indianapolis. So I say free him,
but pops, they watching. This may be some of the shit that you
can't do if you're trying to get back in the building.
The rules are just too strict for everybody.
I don't know.
That's my opinion though.
So we will see what happens.
Even though we are waiting for game three for OKC versus Minnesota, let's get to game
two really quick for Knicks versus Pacers because underdog got some picks for y'all.
So Andrew Nemhard is at 20 and a half points, rebounds and assists.
Do you have him higher or lower?
Maurice.
No, lower.
Hey, Cam.
Paces are so well rounded, man.
I think I'm going to give him higher for all three.
Okay.
Halliburton is at nine and a half assists.
You have him higher lower cam.
Lower.
I'm gonna go lower as well.
Okay, and Josh Hart is at 22 and a half points and rebounds.
Do you have him higher or lower Maurice?
Point to the rebounds.
Right.
I'll go higher.
These are really hard joints to unpause an underdog sent out. I'm gonna go lower.
Okay, make sure y'all download the underdog app and you can make your picks too. So changing gears real quick to football.
So the NFL has approved for NFL players to compete in flag football for the Oli
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do this? Um, I think it's
it's never been done befo
it's the Olympics, you kn
think that anybody who's ever played
sports before has always watched Olympic ceremonies and probably have envisioned themselves being
a part of it.
And you know, everybody wants to do like historical and legendary things.
You know, you go through life and you make millions of dollars and you know, you've played
in Super Bowls or played in championship games and elite professional moments like the Olympics is kind of like the pinnacle or the epitome of you representing your country and honoring your country from a sporting standpoint.
So I'm interested in it. I'm going to watch it because I'm very interested to see if football will be as lopsided as basketball used to
be. I don't really care about Fort Apache and my homes and Tyree Hill reunion, but I
care more about just seeing how other countries compete against the USA in flag football because
there's other people who play rugby and other things like flag football or football in general.
And just I would like to see how that translates.
I don't know I got mixed emotions about this to be totally honest with you because
football is hurting niggas, pause, and tackling and you know niggas getting hit. I don't know if I want just, I could go watch some 11 year olds do that shit.
You know what I'm saying?
For real, like look, it's fun to watch.
Don't get it fucked up, but for Olympic sport
to get a gold medal for it, I don't know.
This the shit they do now in the Pro Bowl, right?
If I'm not mistaken, right?
I don't know if that deserves Olympic medals for that shit.
That's what I'm saying.
I like watching the Pro Bowl.
I think it's very entertaining and everything else.
Olympic medals, gold, silver, bronze?
I don't know, bro.
They just trying to incorporate football to me nationally,
pardon me, not pardon me, internationally,
and make people love it
and get familiar with the stars
because football is the biggest sport in America.
But we're trying to, you know,
Roger Goodell too is trying to turn it
into an international sport
because football isn't everywhere.
But I don't know if you get the full emotion
of what football is if it's flag football.
Now why isn't it full contact football?
Right, now why isn't it full contact football? Because niggas real money is in September, in September through January or February if you make
to the Super Bowl. So you can't play real football. You see what happened that time?
Motherfucking Paul George, leg snapped in half. Niggas just started walking off the court like,
nah, my contract is coming up next year. I ain't got time for the Olympics, niggas just started walking off the court like, nah, my contract is coming up next year.
I ain't got time for the Olympics.
Niggas just started dropping off the Olympic team.
Nah, I'm good.
I ain't going this year.
I got to get this money.
Because as great as it is to have a gold medal,
it's not where your money's at.
So like I said, I have mixed emotions.
Do I like watching the Pro Bowl flag football?
Cool.
Do I think it'll be entertaining to watch? Cool. But I don't know
if this merits gold, silver and bronze medals. So that's how I
feel about I'm just I would like to watch it. But I don't think
it. I think it should be a halftime show type vibe. I don't
think it should be giving out medals for the shit because it
ain't the real thing.
So that's like a conversation.
Yeah, because then again,
like how else can NFL players be awarded on a bigger stage?
Because I know they probably want the opportunity
to be able to represent their country.
And yeah, they have their games in season,
but also the risk of them doing, you know,
contact football during the Olympics is also another thing.
So like, what do you guys think could be in place of that?
Like what can they do?
Or do you feel like that is quite literally the only thing they could do the flag football
games?
I didn't have that perspective until you just said it, but it is a good perspective because
it's technically not football is not the real thing.
But I think I was here in football and thinking that you can have a gold medal and I'm just associated too, but it's not the real thing. But I think I was hearing football and thinking that you can have
a gold medal and I'm just associated to but it's not the real thing. So I'm not sure there's
anything else that you can duplicate. There's nothing. There's no other league there's nothing
that you can duplicate shoulder pads and helmets and you know people running at each other full
speed and in the contact from it you know that's the epitome of what it is. And so I'm not sure there's anything from it,
but I said that was a good take.
I mean, I don't know what I would do.
I don't know what you can replace.
Look, you can't replace football with nothing.
It's not football, especially when it's not contact.
And listen, I know we sit there today's NFL,
if a nigga, you get a penalty and fine for everything.
This is not when niggas was knocking niggas heads off
or anything else, but niggas still get hurt.
Niggas still get injured, so on and so forth.
So I don't know what you could duplicate it with,
but I understand that they like,
yo, we wanna be in the Olympics too.
How come we can't be in the Olympics?
Yada, yada, yada.
Because they football players,
and look, I think that's the best they could do,
but it's not gonna be the real thing
because when niggas be playing flag football,
like when I watch that pro bullshit,
niggas be smiling and shit.
Like niggas be like, oh yeah, you caught me.
Like it's friendly.
Football's not a friendly sport.
You know what I'm saying?
These niggas be happy as shit when I be watching
the Pro Bowl now with the Flash football.
Nobody's really getting hurt.
Not like I said, I'm not promoting niggas,
but it's just part of the game.
So if you sitting there and keep laughing
and smiling and all that shit,
I don't, I can't see that you taking it serious.
Now, will niggas be more serious
because they countries on the line?
Maybe so, cause you're representing the country
and you like, oh, no, we can't let Canada we can't let Serbia
or we can't let Shanghai whatever beat us in our own
sport. But it's not just sport and what you're doing like
it's nothing.
You know, nothing that can replace football. I'm listening.
No, what will be interesting to see, like as you see these new TV deals get signed, we should keep track of like all of the activity from the NFL that takes place internationally.
And so this is just a big commercial.
You know, when he was talking about introducing it as an international sport, I'd be interested
to see like what efforts do they take with, you know, obviously they're playing more games overseas, in different audiences. But I wonder to the communities
who don't have padded football, would NFL start to introduce 707 leagues that they can
basically, you know, run and govern. But I think that's more or less what this is, as
I heard you talk.
Yeah, man. Look, Rod, Rod, Rod,
we could go would be able to figure out flight schedules and everything else. It would be a
team in London right now. It would be a team on Amsterdam probably right now. Correct.
It's just the, the problem is it's too long a flight. It's too big of a difference.
They've been playing them three, four, two, three, four games over in London the last five, six years.
You know what I'm saying?
Cause they're trying to turn it international,
but if they could do it, they would have done it already.
NBA too, I really believe that.
It's just that it's not going to make sense.
You got to think about this.
If you think about, if we think about the East coast,
the East coast is six hours behind London.
The West coast is nine hours behind London. The West Coast is nine hours behind London.
It'd be different days, a different time.
Like right now, it's eight in the morning, so already fucking two, three in the afternoon
over there.
So if they could do what they would have did, and I think they keep testing to see how they
could get it done.
Not just the NFL, the NBA as well.
I do think they're headed in the right direction though, because you got to start somewhere
because yeah, London was like the big name, but now they have Berlin, now they have Brazil
and like, because football does have more of American fan base, American fans are complaining
because they're like, I don't really want to wake up at five, six a.m. to watch a Jags
game.
Meanwhile, if it was soccer, on the other hand, people don't care what time the game is,
they're gonna tune in to watch it.
So I think just by putting them at that Olympic stage,
even though it is flag football and it's kinda like,
man, I'm trying to see something else,
cause you are right, Pro Bowl is very friendly,
but also they're in a resort, typically in Orlando,
they're on vacation, their families are there,
they're chilling.
I think that this competitive nature would bring out some more fans and kind of a different angle that might actually end up
having more upside than we think. We just wouldn't know until 2028 when the Olympics happen in LA.
So I'm not saying that they're not upside. I'm not disagreeing with that. I'm just saying I know
it ain't the real thing. Yeah. Me personally saying to throwing it off. I get that though. And then real quick, Maurice, on your point,
you said you actually aren't interested in seeing a Tyree-Kale Patrick Mahomes reunion.
And then for those of you who are watching, it's just obviously with Mahomes being arguably
the best quarterback right now, I don't even think there's much argument for that. He would
represent USA as a quarterback. Maurice, you don't want think there's much argument for that. He would represent USA as a quarterback.
Maurice, you don't wanna see that reunion?
No, I don't really care for it too much.
I told you, I didn't like when he left Kansas City
and I keep on, and this just goes
to something totally different
where sometimes the only value that people see
in a relationship is the money.
And if the money isn't right,
then they don't just see all the other value.
And I thought that if he stayed in Kansas City, that there was just so much upside with
him being a champion and just the things that he could have probably did, you know, after
the game of football.
And I think there's a little, you know, you ran, you got paid.
But I think there's a part of him that wishes he was back in that spotlight.
And I think this is like him trying to capture it.
And sometimes you just miss a moment.
You know what I mean?
Sometimes you don't want to relive certain moments.
So my comments were more loaded from that perspective where more or less an opportunity
just to teach people a lesson that sometimes money isn't the only value that you have in
certain scenarios.
So that has some history to it.
Okay, well now what's going on with Bill Belichick?
We will discuss after the break. Got you feeling like a option Maybe I'm my own problem, babe
She's out of here and I don't know
My stubborn and me won't fall, oh, oh
Killing with this thing called trust
But she really thinking I wanna be free I'm free.
She call this thing about toxic Four years and counting
Got you feeling like adoption
Maybe i'm on problem, babe
She's tired of hearing. I don't know
What's happening me won't fall. Oh, oh
dealing with this thing called trust
But she really thinkingin' about wanna be free.
Welcome back.
So Bill Belichick, we know we've seen a lot of headlines
about his 24 year old girlfriend versus his coaching job.
Maurice, how much do you think all of this
is affecting his legacy?
Or do you think it doesn't affect anything at all?
I don't think it'll affect anything long term because what they did in New England was so
legendary. With all the championships, the championship run, I think him and Tom Brady
will forever be tied at the hip with just all their success. But you just don't like to see at this moment in your life
to have all of this distracting noise. And it seems like the latest hairlines that he's talked
about have more to do with his younger girlfriend than him sort of doing the things that he wanted
to do down in North Carolina. And this game is day and age, people are always talking about
limiting the variables and limiting distractions. And homegirl happens to be like a huge distraction
and a huge news taker at this moment. So in regards to his legacy, I'm not sure that it will do
much. But I can see people, the board of trustees and the local Carolina community who's probably invested in him.
They want, they want players, they want victories and that they keep on
hearing more about his girlfriend.
I can see people being put in awkward spaces and say, Hey man, you know, we
didn't bring him here for all that shit.
Like, like let's figure out how to unwind and unravel the situation.
If she continues to be the topic of conversation. But I'll see Dula Belichick
giving up that young girl and what she may be offering him anytime soon.
My exact question is, what's that? Did I answer correctly?
Yeah. How much do you think this affects his legacy or do you think it doesn't affect anything
for him at all? Just his relationship with him? I wanted to ask more questions real quick for him.
So what do you mean what she got to offer him?
What she got to offer him?
I'm off.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
What does she exactly have to offer him?
Jesus.
Hey, hey, hey.
Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus, Jesus.
Hey, hey, hey.
What does she exactly out to offer?
He got it.
My man Bill got him a young
slaughter, right?
That's what I was saying. He has someone
he can use his pink horsepower on.
You know, so.
Yeah.
Gotcha. Gotcha.
Yeah, listen, man.
Look, you know why it's so weird is this,
is that with Bill Belichick,
is because for however long, you know,
we know he was defensive coordinator.
I'm talking about as far, he's been at it for a long time.
I'm talking about as far as we know him
for being the coach of the New England Patriots.
He seems very cold, very callous.
He does his interviews when at post game, pre game,
pre season, after the season.
You ask some questions, he's very short.
What happened tonight? very short. What happened
tonight? We lost. What was wrong with the team? We got to do better. Those are his answers.
He's been this way for 20 years. You know, he gets rid of key players when they're still
decent. Get rid of Wes Welker. You know, Tom Brady has the most touchdowns ever with Randy Morse. You get rid of Randy
Morse. It seems like he's been really cold and saying I want to do things my way and my way works.
So shut the fuck up and do things my way to the point where you break up with Tom Brady.
You know, it wasn't like the Patriots was all of these niggas always in it, whether
they're in it or not in it pause, always to the point where Robert Kraft, they probably
was going to if Robert Kraft wasn't there, they probably would have broke up to, you
know, two, three, maybe four years before that.
I think Robert Kraft held the relationship together, especially when the nigga Bill Belichick
wanted to replace Tom Brady with Jimmy Garoppolo.
And I think it was like, yo, Tom Brady said, yo, your man, he went to talk to Robert Garoppolo.
Your man wild. I was out five, six games, my nigga. Now he want to replace me with this
nigga. And Bill Belichick's attitude probably was, nigga, do you forget that Drew Blitzow
was our quarterback and I replaced you with him, do you forget that Drew Blitz was our quarterback?
And I replaced you with him and made you into that nigga.
I know when they replaced me.
It's already like, I was too late.
I don't want Super Bowls and all that.
Yo Rob, what you gonna do?
Cause your man is wilder.
And I believe Robert Kraft mended that relationship
as long as he can mend it.
And it just didn't last anymore. Then you go to the
next phase, right? Everybody that year, who's going to be better? Tom Brady or Bill Belichick?
Tom Brady or Bill Belichick? Tom Brady or Bill Belichick? Tom Brady went out and won the Super
Bowl. So now it look like Bill Belichick, you wild out. You bugging. Then on top of that, he didn't
have good teams after that, to where Robert Kraft had
to tell him, yo, let's do this amicably.
It's part of me status if I'm not pronouncing that right.
But at the end of the day-
That's right.
I'm in pronunciation school over here at this show, man.
So-
It's fine.
It's fine.
I didn't-
So, yeah, Fender.
I won that.
I won that one.
Internet said I won.
I'm just telling you, man, that we went through the comments to say, let me see.
Some niggas was on your side and I was a good debate.
I wasn't like, it was like 65 35 for Hi-Hena.
Anyway, to where they split up and everything worked out,
but it looked like Tom Brady got the rest.
Now, cool, fast forward,
we see Bill Belichick has a personality.
We see him on Peyton and Eli's show. And he's like, oh, this nigga, he's kind of cool.
Now, it went from cool to him looking like a simp in some nigga's eyes. Like, yo, Bill,
hold on now. We want the New England Patriot nigga down here and see who is this nigga
letting this bitch run everything. And this boils down to this, my personal opinion.
I have no knowledge of this.
But it's kind of what Mo said without saying it.
When he said when she got the offer,
you don't know what Bill Belichick fetishes is.
He might like his feet tickling.
You know what I'm saying?
He might like his underarms lit. He might like I'm saying? He might like his underarms lit.
He might like sitting in the hot chair when it's time to eat.
Nigga, oh, you know what I'm saying?
He might be going to put on a pimp and play like a baby.
You don't know she's feeding all that.
For her to be running around, look, I ain't got information and I can't tell you where
it's from.
But niggas around Bill and Bill was,
they was like, yo, his girl was running everything, man.
His girl, yo, she was there with scenes,
she was doing this, because y'all seen,
we all seen the clip.
But I'm privy to other information
that where they was like, yo,
he was just doing this and doing that.
And she was telling us what to do and do.
And I'm like, that's wild.
Now it's just getting to the point
where Bill ain't getting the shit under control
and his job's on the line.
You gotta nip this in the bud like,
yo, all right, enough's enough.
You gotta chill the fuck out
because now you're playing with the paper
and the potential job opportunity.
Because at the end of the day,
if you think Bill really wanted to go to North Carolina,
then yo, everybody's wild.
You know that nigga wanted to go back to the NFL,
but niggas was like, yo, you might add your time bill you 72 73. We need new energy over here. And we don't
like the way you did Tom Brady. Some players notice all that they like he got time for
that. If he did that to Tom Brady, what are you gonna do to me? Bill got an impression
the but the answer the question I just want to give a background. Is he messing his legacy up?
I don't know.
That's a great question.
I can't say yes or no because people will only see you
for your faults.
You have two, three faults and then, or losses,
but you got 200 wins and they'd be like,
nah, remember you got knocked out though?
Just boxing, right?
You'll sit there, have a nigga with 52 wins and three losses and they'd be like, nah, that time he got knocked out though. Just boxing, right? You'll sit there, have a nigger with 52 wins
and three losses and they be like,
nah, that time he got knocked out was crazy.
So I don't know if it misses legacy up,
but people tend to remember the worst times
better than your best times.
So let me ask all of this then,
do you view this situation as like a midlife crisis for him or what?
What do we think Maurice?
I mean, he spent a ton of years being super disciplined, super organized and super sacrifice
and then super sacrifice mode.
And now he just in a mode where he like, yo, I got to get my feel goods.
That's all this is.
And it's just playing out in front of everybody's face.
And you know, I'm 70 odd years old.
I didn't gave my public service was, you know, bringing y'all the best football that y'all
can possibly watch.
But at the end of the day, he's still 70.
He like, you know, I could probably got this off when I was 20 or 30 years younger
had I had the time to and the focus on it.
So that's what's actually going on right now.
And it is a midlife crisis.
And we just watching it out, just like we're watching other things and other people's sexual
fetishes out that we never knew existed.
But you're just watching Bill Belichick's.
I don't know if it's midlife, it's three quarter life crisis.
It's almost over. Yeah, three quarters.
It's just the truth.
Said check in July.
No, it's the three quarter life crisis, man.
And you know why? Because Mo is is right he probably missed the midlife crisis because he's dedicating his life to football
i'm gonna catch the three quarter drink three quarter life crisis right man so yeah mo's right
i'll just call it the three quarter life process though. Yeah. Well, I'll just add, at least he's happy because nothing is in jeopardy yet.
He does his job.
He's happy.
That's all that matters.
Me personally, cause I'm sitting here thinking about it.
I'm like, damn, I am 24.
Studying to your own man is crazy.
I can't even fathom that.
Like I don't understand. I don't understand.
But some people just really care about money to that extent.
And I'm not gonna say that that's which I don't know.
I don't know shoddy.
That's what they want.
They chose each other.
They could figure it out.
I don't know.
That's beyond me.
Okay.
So there is now a new sports festival in Vegas that will let athletes use
performance enhancing drugs. Athletes will compete for up to half a million in purses
per event with bonuses starting at 250,000 for those who break records. It will feature
swimming track and field and weightlifting. Maurice, do you think this concept of athletes
using you know, PEDs should be more mainstream?
Do you like it?
Do you not like it?
What do we think?
This is just a spectacle.
You know, you have people who do use them and then cheat them out.
They operate outside the rules.
But if these niggas using drugs, I don't want to see them swim.
You know, if a nigga gonna be like, hey, man, we use the steroids and all this shit that
make you extra aggressive.
I want to see niggas box and fight and just do some like more serious shit.
I ain't trying to watch a nigga bike or nothing like that.
You know what I'm saying?
Like I took some steroids and a nigga want a bike.
You know, like a nigga want a dog.
Like nah, like I won't like, y'all ever see that shit on Instagram
where them Samoa niggas be running into each other
and they be like these big ass Samoa niggas
just running full speed into each other.
That's the shit I wanna see.
Like, you know what I'm saying?
Football is football and that's what niggas wanna see.
I wanna see niggas bare knuckle,
kumite, old school, fighting.
Like that's what I wanna see, you know what I'm saying? But we know all these niggas bare knuckle, kumite, old school, fight. Like that's what I wanna see. You know what I'm
saying? But we know all these niggas cheat and that's what they own. So it's fair because
everybody on the same shit. And we just in a society where you can just see some barbaric shit,
you know what I mean? So I don't really care if that's what they choose to do, but I definitely
don't wanna see niggas swim. Like I don't care to see anybody swim.
It's not entertaining to me.
Yo, it's crazy niggas is treating these niggas
like the Kentucky Derby and shooting niggas up, man.
Treating these like horses is wild, pause.
Yo, shoot the niggas up.
See what they can, how fast they can bike and swim.
Like, yo, that's what they do with horse races
Yo, this is what I'm saying. Like yo you shooting niggas up like horses now pause
Somebody going to jail I'm telling you that right now somebody going to do somebody die out there
From the wrong from the wrong mix. Somebody's going to jail Balco and all this
Everybody's you know, you know what the line is right now?
For probably telling niggas, I got this shit nigga.
I'm telling you that right now, nigga.
If you take this shit, niggas is home
in their kitchen right now cooking.
It ain't even gonna be the legal, you know,
you got Balco and all that type shit.
I don't know the new shit, I just remember Balco.
But at the end of the day, niggas is gonna be home like,
yo, listen, they did shit right here.
You wanna go 200 miles per hour on that bike nigga?
Take this.
You wanna swim your ass?
You wanna be a fish nigga?
Take this.
Somebody's getting in trouble behind this.
I'm telling you this right now.
Don't say I didn't tell you.
Somebody going to jail, somebody going to court, the mixture of shit that's about to
happen. Now it's crazy. Then when somebody test positive for cocaine, they can be like,
oh, I can take this, but I can't take cocaine. I didn't know cocaine wasn't included. This is a
mess. This is a mess. I'm telling you now. This is not going to end good.
So I know you're saying it's a mess.
And I know you have very good reason to be skeptical because you can't really control
what goes on.
But would you watch?
Like most of them be honest with you, not the swimming, not none of that.
I'm gonna keep an eye on the shit to see when niggas get in trouble.
But why would I want to see a nigga?
I don't watch the shit now.
Like, I'm not watching a bike race.
So I'm gonna watch it.
And then to be honest with you, niggas don't really watch swimming
until it's the Olympics.
And then it got to be somebody like Michael Phelps.
Like, yo, I saw my wife swimming.
It was Michael Phelps.
So I told her, yo, Michael Phelps, Michael Phelps, nigga,, I saw him while I was swimming, it was Michael Phelps, cause everybody talking about,
yo Michael Phelps, Michael Phelps,
nigga name was ringing in the street.
So nigga like, let me tune in,
let me see what this Phelps nigga is about.
I don't know the last swimmer since Michael Phelps.
Who's the last swimmer from America since Michael Phelps?
Me and old woman.
We don't know, so no, I'm not watching.
I'll probably watch some highlights
like oh shit, look how fast I'm going. That's wild. But though these aren't the sports that
you really want to watch, but still I have to agree with more on that.
Oh gosh. Well, shout out to those who are competing. I think it'd be interesting,
especially specifically like the weight lifting category.
Like I just can't imagine how that would go with everybody's yoga.
So it would be interesting to watch.
But that is all the time that we have for today.
Maurice, you know, it's always a pleasure to have you on the show.
Just seeing you, Mo.
Next week.
See you next week, man.
Thank y'all for watching.
And as always, it is what it is.