IT IS WHAT IT IS - ANTHONY EDWARDS CLAPS BACK AT OLD SCHOOL NBA PLAYERS & THEY HATING ON JOSH ALLEN | S5 EP2

Episode Date: September 17, 2024

On this episode, Anthony Edwards takes shots at old school basketball, K.G thinks nobody from this era can play in the 90's, Josh Allen gets voted the most overrated player by his peers & a monumental moment for black QB's heading into week 1 of the NFL!

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Michael Jordan was the only one who really had skill. So that's why they were shocked when seeing Kobe. But now, everybody has skill. So Magic Johnson was asked about what Anthony Edwards had to say, and he responded, I don't ever respond to a guy that's never won a championship. So before we get specifically into Ant-Man's comments,

how do you guys feel about Magic's response Mace first oh man I think what Magic said came came out of a place that probably Magic felt offended as he should you know a person of Magic status to say that he didn't have skill being the first six eight six nine point guard is is like just goes back to what young kids do these days they just blurt out things just for the moment they do no research and then they want everybody to feel sorry for them when they put their foot in their mouth this is this is crazy like to say that there was no skill back there i don't know what game he was watching he couldn't have saw kevin johnson that phoenix i mean people that was really really talented um earl to pearl i mean just and these guys are not in my day but i remember these guys because i'm a student of the game here goes

another time ant-man we love you but you just need to play basketball some people just need to play basketball and not say certain things without without somebody there to say yo ant-man chill out because he's a wonderful kid um great phenomenal basketball player but these statements are starting to stack up you know i think he kind of figured it out what's clickbait gonna be oh you think he's trolling yeah he's trolling he know what he's gonna click he know he's gonna get fired up about this yeah what's gonna be what reaction gonna be and i'm not saying to a certain extent he don't really believe what he's saying, but he like, yeah, this is going to go viral right here.

Because he's young. And y'all think about this. I actually seen them ask kids, let me ask Stat this. OK. You know how to tell time on a watch like that? Yes. Because you got good parents. Kids your age don't know how to tell time on a watch like that? Yes. Because you got good parents. Kids your age don't know how to tell time.

They don't. They did something with a college team, and they had to clock and ask the kids what time is to say, and they didn't know how to tell time with clocks with hands. You know what I'm saying? And they just don't be knowing. You know a lot of people say, yo, y'all niggas from the 1900s be bugging.

My little cousin told me that. That sounds like my son. He said, that was last millennium. Yeah, yeah, exactly. Niggas say, y'all niggas from the 1900s be wowing, B. I was like, yo, that's crazy. That's wild. But as far as Ant-Man, I think he knows he's going to get a reaction out of people. I think he does a lot of stuff to hype himself up. Not

this particular situation, but as far as when the season was going on last year, he'll say, yeah, we sent KD home. We didn't really get to go over the Olympics because we wasn't working during the Olympics. Before the Olympics started, we had talked about some comments that he said when he was talking about I'm the go-to person. I'm the one that they need to figure out how to play with me. And during

the Olympics, we see how Steph Curry and LeBron James evolved. And he gave them their flowers as it was going on because they asked him one game when LeBron took over. They was like, what did y'all think? He's like, LeBron James. LeBron James. He turned back into a fan and not the superstar that he is.

So as far as these comments are concerned, look, what I feel about not just him is that every generation needs to realize you see the people before you and you want to do stuff better than what they did

so it elevates the game. You sit there, you don't get Kyrie Irving dribbling the way he's dribbling if you don't see Allen Iverson and Isaiah Thomas and like you said, makes Kevin Johnson doing the things they did. So now you say, what else can I add to that? To where Tim Hardaway may have the crazy crossover,

maybe I want to throw it back. You get these people elevate the game, and the people that you see now, you take bits and pieces from them and make it into your own thing. But as far as disrespectful, it's past disrespectful. A lot of people caught them out for it. Even Paul George said something about it.

I don't know if you follow. I follow Big Isaiah Page. He put some shit up after that. He put some shit up after that. I felt it was towards Ant-Man, but he didn't say his name. He's dribbling with two fingers, sitting on his ass, pause at the All-Star game. They trying to rip him.

He's sitting there throwing it through his legs, behind his back. This is on Isaiah Thomas' page, the one that used to play for the Detroit Pistons in the 80s and 90s. I think that was a sub towards him. But as far as Ed, man, I think he knows what he's doing. And we're talking about it. But what if he means it? What if he means what he says?

Well, then all the statements like Magic Johnson and the people that they're saying, they have a right to say what they're saying. That's how I feel about it. Because if he really means it, that means he's not a student of the game. Because some people may not be students of the game. A lot of people, I'm not saying a lot of people

because I don't know the number, but you have people who say, look, I ain't here to do all that. I'm here to play right now and not study what happened before and know my history and all that other shit that niggas be trying to get niggas to do. Look, I'm about the present. I don't care about the past.

And if that's his attitude, then that's his attitude. Look, Michael Jordan is great as a phenomenal basketball player. He was, and he's my number one all the time, he's still very relevant because of his sneakers. Regardless, and his apparel, and not just apparel, he's signing people to his company, so he stays relevant to where some people may not have that business acrament that he has,

and not just a business acrament that he has. You got people who may be good at business, but they're not out there like that. You may not see them like Vinnie Johnson, the microwave. A lot of people don't even know who I'm talking about when I say that name. But he has a very successful career after basketball. Jamal Mashburn, who's from Harlem, one of my personal friends, and somebody I grew up watching who played in the NBA 12, 13 years, a phenomenal college athlete, probably made more money

after he got out the NBA than playing in the NBA. And he was a good-ass NBA player. Okay. And then I'm just going to say I'm not surprised by Ant-Man's comments, but I think that there's a way to go about it because being the younger generation, being Gen Z myself, I can't discredit the people that were before me. You know, like it comes to a point where, like I know you're saying not everybody's a student of the game,

but he is a product of the game. Like he has a favorite player. Like he talks about it all the time. You're emulating people who were great before you. I mean, it's even like the same way in music. If I tell you that like right now, like my favorite artist is I Spice or my favorite artist is sexy red, you're going to be like, but I don't know about so-and-so, I don't know about this.

And that's OK to recognize without being disrespectful, because I think it came across the wrong way when you have a lot of great supporting you and your craft and then for you to kind of discredit everybody except Jordan. It's like, OK, so what about us? So that kind of falls into more NBA players that had more to say. So Kevin Garnett basically was explaining his viewpoint on what he had to say. And he said, if I'm being honest, bro, I don't think anybody in this generation could have played 20 years ago. And this is to everybody in our

league, Tatum. He said, 20 years ago, you couldn't get a triple step back. We had efficiency back in the day and it was so hard. It was too physical too physical and guess what the league had to come off of it for the flow of movement to be able to have scoring go up which is what we like to sit here and watch so like hearing what Kevin Garnett had to say and even Paul Pierce had comments as well what else do you guys think about what Antman had to say and then do you guys think that these reactions are okay I think all of the comments are merited especially with what he said because he just picked one person out of generations right so he's probably looking at the athleticism and things like that but I don't even think you could have said that back in the days because there was a bunch of hot flying people. And when you say only Jordan,

so did he not see Scottie Pippen? Did he not see these people that were right there with, with Jordan playing on a team alongside of Jordan? And I know magic, man. I know magic is a, is a strong competitor. He took that probably very personal.

He made the statement, like you said earlier he only he said i don't know if he ever won a championship he did win a championship down in atlanta but he's yet to win one in the nba though he just now won the goal but that wasn't because of him so could they say the same thing about him well i said what i said that then this is is this about being if you're gonna study the game well you're not gonna study the game it's not really a bunch else to say for me you're gonna study it or you're not because if he didn't mean what he said that means he's just really not a

student of the game his favorite player he says all the time is kevin durant and the only person you really bringing up before that is michael jordan'm not talking about Isaiah Thomas, Larry Bird, James Worthy, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Wilt Chamberlain, Bill Russell. It's a list of people. A lot of times, people don't even bring up Abdul-Raouf, which was Chris Jackson. He didn't even get a fair shake in the NBA. He was ridiculous at Denver.

Some people don't know, and some people just don't want to know. Okay. And then last question regarding this topic. So basically at the end of his quote, he said, but now everybody has skill. Do you guys feel like these younger players nowadays,

everybody has skill or do you disagree with that statement? Can they dribble pause with three balls? Yeah. Well, we dribbling. pause with three balls yeah well we dribbling with three balls wow

wow season five first one in season five baby I wouldn't have said nothing if you had set it off early I wouldn't have let it go I said pause if you hadn't set it off early. I wouldn't have let it go. I said pause, though. You did not.

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Go ahead, man. Go ahead. You know, when they say skill, do they have more like pause tricks? Yeah, but, you know, do they have more like Paul's tricks? Yeah, but do they have bigger hearts? No. Are they willing to go further? No, Paul. So I think it's even.

I think the talent and the heart and the drive kind of weighs balance out. It's a good question because I wouldn't say that they have more skill. ways balance out? It's a good question because I wouldn't say that they have more skill. I think it's a lot of things that you could do in the NBA now that you couldn't do before. That two-side step jump shot or the step back shit, they wouldn't be able to. They call that travel all day.

They wouldn't let you do the two-step side, the shit James Harden started. A lot of shit you wouldn't do. But what I will say is this, that they practice things that back in the days, I don't think NBA college, high school players didn't practice. Like, and I know we always use ourselves as an example, but imagine Murda being in practice and you try

to do a right hand layup jumping off your right foot. What the fuck? You would get crucified for that. Do that again. Come here, come here, come here. Show us what you just did. Why are you practicing that?

And I think that they practiced I think Kyrie actually started that. To me, I'm not going to be wrong, but shooting off the same leg that you're jumping off, you tried that shit before, it would be crazy. But that's regular stuff that they practice in games. And I think that they're just being more creative to where certain things may or not flown back then.

We ought to realize as well, you're dealing with a player-friendly commissioner, Adam Silver. David Stern wasn't a player-friendly commissioner. And a lot of things that, and like I said, he can't change the rules to the game or whatever, but we sat there and watched that nigga stop a Chris Paul trade to the Lakers like, yeah, that was wow.

Yeah, you know, that was that. Yeah. You know, it's heartbreaking. Yeah. Like I've seen him, Kobe Bryant, win the MVP trophy and Kobe was holding that trophy pause like this. He said, pause,, pours real quick. What I'm gonna say, could you put it above you? Kobe said like this, he said, above you. Like he was, he ran that shit like a warden.

You know what I'm saying? And I think that they talk, Adam Silver has talks with players, what they're liking, what's happening, what's gonna help the Florida game, et cetera, because a high scoring game in the 80s or 90s is maybe 110, and that would be crazy. That would be crazy.

There'd be games where sometimes niggas have 140 points. A game with 122 points is like regular. You know what I'm saying? And that's also because of Steph Curry evolving the three-point game and having teams shooting 35, 40, 50 threes a game sometimes. And people do want to see points on the board. I don't watch baseball because I don't want to see six hours at the end of the game, the score is one to zero. I can't do it. Like, I almost be telling them niggas to bring steroids back so I can see some home runs

no man okay so also on the topic of ant-man him and justin jefferson are recreating the iconic randy moss and kg sports illustrated cover photo that was taken a couple years back what do you guys think of them recreating this concept? These are just bad decisions after bad decisions. I really love Ant-Man as a basketball player. These are bad decisions. I mean, just putting yourself in different lights, it just adds unwanted pressure. Just like when he does the commercial that's like Jordan.

It's like, well, I make that commercial. I remember a young artist came up to me and he said, would you listen to my music? I say, well, I don't want to listen to you sound like me. I want to hear your music because that's my music.'s your music so it's like this same kind of thing when you're looking at some of the things that ant-man is doing you're recreating a lot of things but my my concern is that you're gonna get lost in this because we're not gonna know who you are and when when trouble hits we won't know who you are to be able to stand with you i think it's very important for you to start just carving out your own identity not that you don't have it but in the things you do be more

original you you got way more creative attributes than to do that and i think um before him and jefferson could put themselves in that iconic place they place, they got to do some more things before they do that. That's my view on that matter. I don't think this is his idea. I don't even think he knows about it. If you don't think niggas had skills back in the days, I think somebody said, yo, we should do this. You know what I'm saying?

I don't even think the nigga knew about the commercials. I probably showed it to him like, yeah, we should do this. You know what I'm saying? I don't even think the nigga knew about the commercials. He probably showed it to him like, yeah, that'd be dope. But it's about who's doing his marketing for his campaigns. Who are they doing it with? Like who's sponsoring this? I think, I'm assuming it's going to be Sports Illustrated again, but I'll double check. Yeah, it's Sports Illustrated. Yeah, it's like Sports Illustrated again, but I'll double check. Yeah, it's Sports Illustrated.

Yeah, it's like Sports Illustrated, y'all get more creative. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you're right. That's up to them to be more creative and think of different things and do different stuff. Like, you know, and I dig it because every generation is different, and I'm not talking about sports, but it'd be like for me personally, when my little cousins or whoever be like watching the Smurfs,

I'm like, that ain't the Smurfs Smurfs. They keep doing the Smurfs. They on the new Ghostbusters. They do, like, you know, they keep creating, the Superman's the seventh Superman since I've been alive you know what I'm saying it's like what is gonna be new like where X-Men came out I was like alright cool a new motherfucking

superhero for TV and movies you know what I'm saying and I think that niggas is lacking in being creative yeah and not only lacking in being creative, you have to think about who's eating off this stuff.

And I'm more sports illustrator. I'm talking about the movies and TV shows that's getting done over. Because if the owner of, let's just use Ghostbusters, for example,

says, let's just, we don't want Bill Murray and I don't want us to get some young Ghostbusters. The original nigga most likely is going to get paid again because if he didn't sell the name of the movie

or still has the rights to the movie, nigga said, I'm going to eat again. It's like, for instance, I'm arguing with Sin. He asked me if I seen the new Rambo. I'm not watching Rocky B. Rambo at 78 years old, man. I'm not watching that, bro. I refuse. I refuse to watch Rocky B. Rambo at 78 years old, man. I'm not watching that, bro. I refuse. I refuse to watch Rocky B. Rambo.

Did I see the new Equalizer? I love Denzel Washington as an actor. I'm not watching him do karate at 71 years old and all that. I'm not doing it. I love him as a great actor, but when niggas start doing karate in they 70, I can't believe the movie so back you know what I mean

I can't fuck with Denzel being the equalizer at 70 grabbing niggas for the pressure points and all that you know what I'm saying talking about Rambo Rocky 19 nah I'm saying? Nigga, we're talking about Rambo. Rocky 19.

Nah, I'm not watching it, B. So back to Sports Illustrated. I dig it. I guess it was an iconic cover, but I think y'all could be more creative to let Ant-Man and who is it? Justin Jefferson. Justin Jefferson create their own narrative

and make their own history. Yeah. And Sports Illustrated, if you need some creativity, look no further than right here. You know, we mean killer. We got the ideas for you guys. And I think that's what it's time for everyone to start doing. Just like you see Pharrell collabing with Louis Vuitton and different people like that.

It's time for them to start allowing people that are geniuses, especially even your self-killer as a marketer. Likewise, Martin, same thing. Speaking of Pharrell, these are a pair of Pharrell Louis right here, man. Shout out to Pharrell, man. All right.

Okay, so there is an NFL players poll voted on by 103 players, and Josh Allen was voted the most overrated QB. So I want to clarify from the poll, 11 players voted for Josh Allen, 10 voted for Tua and 10 voted for Jalen Hurts. Interesting stat line right there. But that's crazy. Yeah. Do you guys believe Josh Allen is the most overrated quarterback in the NFL? Who else was there? Second was Tua. Well, Tua and Jalen Hurts were tied. But I don't think people hold Tua up their paws like where you would see a Josh Allen, right?

And shout out to OJ, you know. God bless OJ. I wish OJ was here. My suit is closed, OJ you know God bless OJ I wish OJ was here my suit is closed OJ that's all of me even when you're gone he gonna say what he say that's what's up yeah

nah but Josh Allen you know Josh Josh is definitely he could be considered, but I don't think he's the most overrated. I would have put Tua before him. But it's crazy because, you know, if 11 people vote on you,

you know these are people from other teams. So I think he's sitting around looking at it like, yo, these niggas is hating on me behind my back. But in a way, that's what you're supposed to get if you're a good player from other team members. They're not supposed to like you if you're a running back. The other team don't like you because you burn them for a lot of yards. And then if you're looking at a quarterback, the same thing. We lose every time we play, y'all. I don't like you. So I think he had more hate and some players are just hated more than others. And I think he falls into that category

because he doesn't have the personality that all of the other athletes on different teams like versus who can I think about? Like Chase or any one of those other guys. He doesn't come across like that. So I could see why they definitely put him on an overrated list. But I got something that would be better than that. But right now, we're going to go with this. I am. Niggas is bogging.

They just hating on that nigga. That's all it's about. Look, be totally honest with you, man. Sorry, I was reading something. Look, it's Patrick Mahomes at the top, and then it's like... Joe Burrow, Lamar Jackson, and Josh Allen. That's that. Yeah.

Like, yo, what are we talking about? And when you that nigga, one of them niggas, you're going to get hated on. That come with the territory. Josh Allen's pause is crazy. He got a rocket. He has a rocket at any given moment. One year, that year that Kansas City won the Super Bowl a couple years ago, they was having a battle, Buffalo and Kansas City.

It was a shootout with Patrick Mahomes and Josh Allen. The shoot was amazing. I watched it about three, four times a year because that last two minutes of the regular um the first 60 minutes of the game and overtime is just amazing to watch i watched that that highlights about um at least four or five times a year because what him and patrick mahomes was doing and it went into overtime and patrick mahomes got the ball first and that's why i believe they changed the rule to you have to give the team another chance to score because whoever gets the ball first and scores, the other team doesn't get a chance. And Patrick Mahomes and them scored first to where Josh Allen may have had a chance to come back and do something spectacular.

Well, that's how good that game was. But come on, man. The kid's arm is crazy. He's accurate. Not only that, he runs people over. He's a 6'4 monster. You know, when they need a first down and nobody's open, he's not the fastest guy in the world,

but he's almost a quarterback version of Derrick Henry. You got to drag him, pause to bring him down. He runs people over. Look, man, I'm not going to go crazy about this whole situation. When you that nigga, they going to hate on you. It's Patrick Mahomes, and I got Joe Burrow, Josh Allen, and Lamar Jackson bunched in the next group of people. He's nice, bro.

All of them? You have all of them at number two? Yeah, right now I do. Right now. Because, listen, right now, and we'll see this year, this is really the Patrick Mahomes era to kind of where like Michael Jordan fucked up niggas championships when they was trying to get them,

whether it be Reggie Miller, whether it be Patrick Amiru and Karl Malone, Gary Payton, John Stockton, Charles Barkley. A slew of people missed out on championships that may have got championships when Michael Jordan wouldn't play. You know, they were lucky enough, the Houston Rockets, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, I'm Paul Kareem,

Kareem, Olajuwon, Akeem Olajuwon, Kenny Smith, my brother, what up, Kenny, Sam Cassandra boys, they slipped in their paws and got two championships when Michael Jordan was retired. Besides that, when the 90s hit, nobody was winning championships. And this may be the Patrick Mahomes ever. So

anybody else, until further notice, I'm just going with Patrick Mahomes and those other guys are there. If I had to put somebody at the top of the list out of those three, I'm going to go, and I know we always have our shit, I'm going to go with Joe Burrows, because that's the only person who'll be packed from home to go to

the Super Bowl. Josh Allen hasn't been to the Super Bowl. Lamar Jackson hasn't been to the Super Bowl. Now, we got to understand that football is the ultimate team sport. It isn't like basketball, where one or two players can get you out of a series or out of a game. It's a team sport,

but as much praise as we give the quarterback that's when we got to give them as much fault because we give them all the praise as well sorry am i hearing you correctly you're you're a part of title town now no i'm not part of title town i'm just saying i gotta call it like i see it i have a job to do murder all right you know jason tatum told me he never seen you up there. That's what he told me. Told me to tell you that, actually. I told you that last season before we left.

He told me that. He said, I just got here, been looking for Murda. I haven't seen him since we've been here. OK, Tatum. You know, so he's like, yeah, I'm new to title town. I've been looking for Murda since we've been here. Okay, Tatum. You know, so he's like, yeah, I'm new to title tag. I've been looking for murder and stress since we've been here. So I'm not going to say I'm jumping on Kansas City bandwagon, but you'll be a fool to act like you haven't seen what Patrick Mahomes

been doing. Patrick Mahomes is the only quarterback I've probably ever seen complete passes with his non-throwing arm. Patrick Mahomes completes passes with behind-the-back passes. Who's throwing behind-the-back passes in the fucking NFL? I'm talking about since I've ever been watching. The year that they lost to the 49ers in the Super Bowl, I believe, not the 49ers. Who the fuck they lost to?

I can't, I'm so mad. Huh? The Bucs. The Bucs. Tampa Bay, Florida. Exactly. Because you know why I'm thinking, you know why I was bugging this now when I said, because I knew he lost to Tom Brady,

but I'm thinking Patriots. It was the Bucs. He was hurt and he was hitting people in the face pause. They just wasn't catching the passes. He hitting them in the side, they're not catching the passes. That's not on him. His job is to deliver the football, and they're not doing it. I'm talking about 60-yard passes, and they just wasn't catching.

That kid is nice, bro. And I know a lot of times people will say Aaron Rodgers is the best quarterback they ever seen. You know, not talking about championships or anything else, talking about accuracy, getting his team in position to win, even though they always only won one Super Bowl. Right now, I believe at this particular point, even though we have a lot of football to see left from Patrick Mahomes,

I'm not going to put him past Aaron yet because we haven't seen Aaron play over a year. But he's right there if we're talking about best quarterbacks ever. We're not talking about most championships. We're talking about best quarterbacks. Yeah. And then I think we can all agree it is the Patrick Mahomes era without joining Titletown because we still got our own teams.

Oh my goodness. By saying that, to say that Josh Allen is overrated, to me it just sounds like hating. He is a complete great quarterback. He has a good offense. He has a good throwing arm. He can rush as well. If we're talking about overrated,

truly, I think it's Trevor Lawrence because he does have a $275 million contract making one of the most highest paid quarterbacks or what? You hating on him because he's from Jacksonville and he's a white boy? No. First of all, he's not from Jacksonville. He's like, shout out Jacksonville,

but he shouldn't be getting paid that much. Shout out to him for negotiating that contract and getting it done but he's definitely the most overrated if we're if we're comparing coins to what we see you can't go back to Jacksonville I can't I'm always good at Jacksonville

I'm always good at Jacksonville I'm gonna keep it 100 during during the vacation you know sometimes you go on YouTube and see something and something else pops up and you click on it and now you're in a rabbit hole for it? Yeah, the suggestions. And you just start watching the whole,

y'all want to go back to Jacksonville? They bugging down there. Yo, those niggas is wilding down there. I ain't never dis-Jacksonville. Y'all got it, my nigga. Those niggas is wildin' down there, bro. I didn't know it was that crazy what was going on down there, man.

Shout out to y'all niggas, man. Yeah, shout out to Jacksonville. Okay, so we're gonna go to break. When we return, we will discuss a new NFL record. Don't go anywhere. One hour. One heart. One love. Excuse me? record, don't go anywhere. When I take the pussy up, man. When I take the pussy up, man. When I take the pussy up, man. When I take the pussy up, man.

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Let me see you walk it off. Walk it off. Girl, let me see you walk it off. Walk it off. Welcome back. Now let's get into our underdog fantasy picks of the day. So we know this season kicks off Thursday and the Chiefs will play the Ravens. Underdog fantasy.

We're going to find out what all that talk about lamar is about we're really gonna find out okay i'm not being funny i'm not being funny i'm not being funny i'm just acting i don't know because lamar got Yeah, they both have two. Okay. Even late. But anyways, okay. So Lamar Jackson's at 219 and a half passing yards. You have him higher than Laura Mace. 219, he's going to get higher than that. Okay.

He might be running. They said he lost weight. He might be trying to get his speed higher, but it's not going to matter against us. Us is crazy. Us is wild. I say the same thing, so I can't even say nothing. Us is wild. it's not gonna matter against us us is crazy that's what I'm saying I say the same thing so I can't even say nothing yeah I mean that's been my team it ain't like I made this up you know

who was the coaching quarterback before Patrick Mahomes and Andy Reid got there camp exactly this is what I'm with it this is exactly what I'm talking about as well who was Kelsey Dayton before Taylor Swift? Kayla Nicole.

See? Tell them, Stat. Killer didn't know, though. I was about to say that. Yeah. Sorry. This is not my debate. What I'm basically trying to say is that doesn't matter.

But I'm basically trying to say that has nothing to do with football. You're talking about football. Okay, now you start that up. Let's go. Let's do it. Let's do it. Listen, I'm going to go with higher. I think that Lamar Jackson wants to prove that.

I think he's going to use his feet a lot, but I think he wants to prove that he can quarterback just as good as Patrick Mahomes. That has yet to be seen, but I think he's going to try and stay in the pocket and make some passes just to show his quarterback capability, so I'm going to go higher. Patrick Mahomes is at 19.5

rushing yards. Do you have him higher or lower, Cam? I'm going to go lower. 19.5? Mm-hmm. Man, this Patrick Mahomes, he can do whatever he want. If he wants to get 20, he can get 20. But I'm going to go lower. Pause.

Okay. And then Isaiah Pacheco is at 62 and a half rushing yards. Do you have him higher or lower, Mace? Something is telling me. I'm going to go lower. How many? 62 and a half rushing yards for Pacheco. I like Pacheco.

I like Pacheco a lot. Let's go higher, man. Let's start the season right off with Pacheco. I'll fuck with Pacheco, man. Okay. And then y'all remember, it's No Sweat Tuesdays, and you've got a token waiting in your lobby. So update your app, make a qualifying entry,

and you'll either win or get your money back as bonus cash. So make sure to download the Underdog Fantasy app and you can make your picks too. Okay, so an NFL record has been set with 15 black quarterbacks set to start for week one. One, what do you guys think of this new record? And then do you guys feel like there's been a big shift in the culture of football this is interesting because if there was um 14 white

quarterbacks what we say oh week one there's gonna be 14 white quarterbacks i really don't like this i really don't like people using black people for for stunts and props it's it's almost like the election you see megan twerking at the election this ain't where you do that at i don't want to start the season off you know in that bag but that's what it's giving me right now i don't want to talk about 15 black quarterbacks. It just sounds racist. Are you a colorist, Stat? No.

Because that's a colorist. How does that even correlate? Yeah, you're asking me colorist things. I don't know if you're trying to line me up or what, because you're looking at me, because you know I'm going to say something loaded. Pause. So, Killer, you go ahead and go on this one, man. or what because you're looking at me because you know i'm gonna say something loaded pause so killer you go ahead and go on this one man i think this is a great thing that 15 black quarterbacks are

starting and i think it needs to be said because i think that back in the days they didn't respect black people to think black people were smart enough to play the quarterback position it was a white man's position pause and i think that this it was seriously that they that was like a whole thing that they were saying that black people used to be mad like they think they don't think that they were smart enough for educated enough because it's supposed to be a thinking person's position that you could play quarterback look think about this and that may be too young to know we We had Warren Moore and Randall Cunningham. Yeah, that's it.

Outside of that, that was it. Then you might even start getting the Steve McNairs. What about Doug? From Washington? Yeah. He played one year. Yeah, you're right. He came in on one of them, when niggas was throwing the strike and all that.

You know what I'm saying? He came on his strike here, mother. You know what I'm saying? So what if week three there's three Latino quarterbacks? Is that going to make the news? It should. It should because that was considered a white man's poorest position. So what if week four is for Chinese quarterbacks?

That should make the news as well. It should. That's my opinion. Now I'm Ant Manning, you know? No, no, I dig it. I understand when you come into, and trust me, I get that too. Like, he's always trying to pull the black card,

but I'm not going, me personally, I'm not going to go for it because, just with this topic, because I remember, I used to be like, yo, why are they, I was a football fan before I was a basketball fan when I'm talking about five, six years old. And I knew Doug, because you're talking about, because the Redskins used to be my team with Joe Theismann and Art Monk and John Riggins. And it was only black niggas being receivers and linemen and so on and so forth. And then Warren Moon was like the diamond in the rough

when it came to black people being quarterbacks. Then you might get a Randall Hammond. Then you start getting the Steve McNair and the Donovan McNabb and Michael Vick comes along. You know what I'm saying? So I think this is a great thing, but it's a part of just Tom's moving on as well. It's a lot of things that, outside of football,

that just change. You sit there and stat, probably don't know this, but there's a show called All in the Family, one of the most racist shows you ever could see. That shit would never fly today. You know what I'm saying? Like, the shit they used to call black people a nigga almost a little bit, the nigga Archie Barker.

And that wouldn't fly, but I think a lot of things different, a lot of things change. And I'm happy to see it, to be totally honest with you, because I think that black people could play that position just as good as any other race. Yeah. And you still stand by what you said. Which part? Is this a colorist

question? You feel like the stat line is unnecessary. I need to know. Are you pro-black? I'm definitely pro-black. You pro-black killer too? Yup. I like that. He said I like that. He said, I like that.

Okay, so out of the quarterbacks, I'll just name a couple. We got Jacoby Brissett, Jaden Daniels, Jalen Hurts, Lamar Jackson, Kyler Murray, CJ Stroud, Deshaun Watson, Caleb Williams. List goes on. We know there's 15 of them. Who are you most excited to watch? Caleb. Calebaleb pretty much you know i think he has the the story and um the excitement around his around his name and what he should bring to the football league and i i want to see if that's real

i think um chicago would be the perfect opportunity. He has nothing standing in his way. He should have a breakout season. Okay. And then just got to ask, so you finally look past the nails? That's why I said his story is, you know, different. But I think he has the most upside pause on. See, this is what I'm talking about. I just love it up here.

I forgot about the nails and the nigga crying with his dog and all that. But, you know, he did go to USC, so shout out to USC. That was a good one, Stat. Yes, Stat, you trolling. Love it. Now you Ant-Man, you know? Shout out to my boy Ant-Man. The person I want to see the most is probably CJ Stroup.

He had a really good season last season. Let's see if he's going to capitalize off of this because I think they got him ranked as like top five top 10 quarterbacks already yeah and one season he's already at that particular uh top what was his ranking for this season was it tough because whatever it was i'm like yeah okay he definitely gotta live up to what he did last season yeah Yeah, so that's the person I want to see the most, see if it was a one-year thing, to see if he's definitely going to be one of them niggas moving forward.

Because that's the one thing I forgot to tell you yesterday, Michael Irvin, and I'll see you later this week, that I don't even think the Cowboys is the best team in Texas, let alone anything else. Dallas is not even the best team in the state of Texas Michael Irvin and we'll discuss that definitely not the best team in Texas

so we'll discuss that when you get back up here homeboy but that's who I definitely want to see is CJ Stroup to see if he lives up to the expectations of the phenomenal season that he had last year. Yeah. And then just to clarify for the viewers, when I say top 10, I'm talking about top 10 quarterbacks, not the top 100 NFL list,

because I know people are going to be like, like, I'm not saying he's a top 10 player overall, but out of the quarterbacks, he is ranked top 10. OK, moving along. So 49ers first round pick Ricky Persol was shot during an attempted robbery in San Fran. 23 year old rookie was walking around in the afternoon when a 17 year old armed with a gun tried to rob him. So the teen who actually came at Ricky and that was involved in the scuffle got shot in the mix. So basically the story is saying that Ricky was able to grab the gun and shoot him back. This was just after he recovered from a shoulder injury, allowing him to finally be able to practice with the team again after being drafted earlier this year. And in the update right now, he is still recovering,

but he was released from the hospital. After hearing the story in the news, obviously, Ricky, we hope you have a speedy recovery. But what was you guys' opinion on the incident as a whole? That's weird. That's definitely sad, too. When you're a rookie, you're looking forward to having a phenomenal career. And for things to start like this, I mean, after you've lived a little,

you just know these are like bad signs, you know. I totally pray and hope that he have a speedy recovery and also a phenomenal career. But things like this, you got to stay totally away from because you don't have that kind of time and you don't want to be playing with your life wherever you were. And I know things can happen anywhere, but you got to watch your surroundings. You got to make sure that you're living in a way that probably can give you the best outcome. And I'm not here to say anything judgmental or anything like that,

but just watch your surroundings because this is one you don't need two. Yeah, man. You got to be careful sometimes. And he's young. That's what's sad about it. Yeah. Is that, you know, same thing we was kind of talking about before the show, me and Mase was talking about, we did a lot of things at a young age.

And, you know, for us, well, I ain't going to speak for Mase, for me, like my fun is like going to Walmart when nobody's there and play football while I'm shopping and shit with whoever I happen to be with. Like that's my fun. Yeah. Cause you been everywhere. Yeah, we did. We did everything. You know what I'm saying? And when you're young, you want to experience a lot of stuff now. Sounds like he was just out and about doing what he was doing. Now, I don't know if this kid who shot him knew who he was

and tried to rob him. I don't know if he had jewelry on. You know, we don't know. We don't know if he's gang affiliated. Yeah, I have no idea. But he's not, you know. Yeah, I don't know. But, you know, young people like to wear,

I'm older and I like to wear jewelry. We don't know if he had a chain or watch. Somebody might be like a tomboy from the 49ers. Who knows? But at the end of the day, Mase said a good thing. Try your best to watch your surroundings because you're going to be out there

as people who know who you are and they want what you got, especially jealous people. They want what you got because they can't get it. And sometimes they try to make a name or for your name. I wish you well. I hope you're speedy.

I wish you a speedy recovery and you get back out there soon. And most importantly, I hope you have insurance. That's the most important thing, to be totally honest with you. Because it sounds like you'll be all right. I have no idea. But even if you're not, at least you'll get a couple dollars from it. Because it'd be sad if you can't finish your football career. And this is a lesson to a lot of NFL, NBA players.

Make sure you got insurance. Like when Paul George hurt his leg that time, cracked it, he got 90% of his money from the NBA because he had the right insurance. And that really matters. I would hate to see somebody not get paid because they didn't have insurance i have the right contract i seen jay will shout out to jay will he had dm me about a month and a half ago um just saying he loves to show smurda stat um giving us love but i remember when he got drafted with the chicago bulls and he's supposed to be the next

michael jordan because he's a killer at Duke, so on and so forth. But when these teams draft you, they know that your habits, they know what you like to do, so on and so forth. And the one thing that was in his contract was that, okay, we'll give you your money, but if you ever get hurt in a motorcycle accident, you won't get your money. So they knew that he must have had a motorcycle habit,

the way he likes to ride on them. And what's the one thing that happens? He ruins his career on a motorcycle, so he didn't even get the money that he could have got. Take heed to some of these stories so you guys, no matter what happens, still get some coins if it doesn't go right. Yeah, and also to add on to what

you said those were phenomenal points um when you end up in trouble multiple times teams tend to stay away from you no matter if it was your fault or not so that that was the um thing i was speaking to that you know the second time being in something that's like, wait, do we really want this around our team? And you don't want people to start having that conversation. Yeah. I'm definitely wishing a speedy recovery for Ricky. I mean, he made some really great plays at Florida. I was super excited to see how he was going to fit with the 49ers team, especially since he literally just came off of injury. And it's really unfortunate when the headlines are for something,

you know, happening in the news rather than your plays. So hoping that he can get back on the field and show people what he got. Okay. So Steph Curry signed a one-year $62.6 million extension that'll keep him under contract through the 2026 to 2027 season. What does this mean for Golden State, Mace? This is one of those things we know Golden State had to do it. I truly believe if Kaminga turns into an animal pause,

then this team could have a shot. But other than that, it's just 62 that they paid just to keep Stephen Curry because without that, I don't think they have enough firepower to really compete. Parmy. But I'm definitely

in favor of them getting 62. You should have got 72. There's nobody else to pay on that team until proven differently. Yeah. Kaminga does a great point. Kaminga is going to have to, uh, step up.

I hope he worked on his skillset this summer because he's very athletic. Um, jumps out the gym. Uh, but he's showing no improvement. Ant man on his skills. Ant-Man's skills are not that good. He's just very athletic.

I'm just fucking with you, Ant-Man, because the skill shit we was talking about. No, we good, nigga. But he's one of these people that I hope he did that over the summer. Because, look, let's think about this, man. Even with Clay and Clay's gone and got Buddy Hill there, which I still would have wanted Clay over Buddy summer. Because look, let's think about this, man. Even with Klay and Klay's gone and got Buddy Hill there, which I still would have wanted Klay over Buddy Hill. And whoever they signed in the offseason,

I still would have wanted Klay. And they still didn't make the playoffs. So I don't know what Golden State's future is looking like for the season, especially if we get a healthy Zion, we get a healthy John Morant. Sacramento, which was phenomenal. Aret, D. Rosen. There was a stack.

There was a stack. I'm not sure about Golden State, but I will tell you this. Like Mace said, you had to pay Steph Curry. Not only did you have to pay Steph Curry because he's Steph Curry, but if you just seen what Steph Curry did in the Olympics, it's not even a – Yeah, you definitely got to give him that money. You got to pay Steph Curry. But if you've just seen what Steph Curry did in the Olympics, it's not even a... Yeah, you definitely got to give him that money. You got to pay Steph Curry now.

The nigga just went crazy in the Olympics. So you don't even want him... You know, the comments he's saying, he's saying that in front of Steve Kerr. I see them doing an interview, and it's like, you know, Clay left. Could you see yourself finishing here in Golden State? Steph says, I would love to finish my career in Golden State,

but I also want to win. While Steve Kerrison right next to him, these are the comments that he's trying to make saying, if y'all don't do something, I will. And the I will is I will leave. Because we thought that we would never see Clay Thompson leave Golden State, and he's left. And we would think we wouldn't see Steph Curry leave Golden State,

but let's figure this, let's think about this scenario. We're talking about he'll be finishing 2027, so whether he'll be 38 years old or 39 years old, one or the other. We see what LeBron's doing at 39 years old. He's still playing at a high level and he may have a couple years after that. If Golden State doesn't get together, I could definitely see him leaving trying to get

another championship before he retires. So it's well deserved, the $62 million. Agreed. Okay, and then the last topic before we close. So from what we've seen in the WNBA season so far, we know this is a big debate for rookie of the year who do you guys believe at this point should win the title

i'm gonna go on record by saying i truly believe it should be a co-mvp thing i mean a co-rookie of the year because i think both of them are having a groundbreaking season. I think both of them mean as much to the league in their own particular way. When I first started, I saw it as more Kaelin Clark. But as time goes on, Angel Reese has made me a believer. So I stand corrected on that. I think they should be co-MVPs. I meant rookie of the year.

I like that answer. I think that's a great answer. And I've seen them do co-MVPs at All-Star Games before, I believe, or something like that. It has been done before. Can't put my finger on exactly what it's for, but I did see co-MVPs before. I've seen co-something.

It happened a couple times. And this is a hard choice. That's why I like Mesa's answer with this. If I have to pick... If I have to pick, I'm going with Kaitlyn Clark. If I have to pick, I like Mase's answer. I would like, that would be my first answer. But if somebody forced me to answer this question, I'm going with Kaitlyn Clark.

Simply because Angel Reese is out there. She's being a monster. And shout out to you, baby girl. You're killing her. Baby girl with the baby hair. Let me know if you need that Fonz paid, baby. That is still available. You get a Fonz, killer going to pay for it.

I think she messing with a homie from Detroit or something, from the Pistons. I forget homeboy name. She's wearing one of his shirts or some shit. I like- Dennis Rodman. Dennis Rodman? Yeah, that's the jersey that she was wearing. Oh, okay. Oh, she's wearing Dennis Rodman, but who's she supposed to be fucking with from the-

Oh, who she's with? I know exactly who you're talking about. He's from the Pistons talking about. Yeah, he is. Yeah, you gotta leave them basketball niggas alone, man. You know what I'm saying? You know what I'm saying? Everything gotta be basketball related, man. You know, I ain't even gonna do it.

Make a long story short. I think personally, she's a monster. And what I was thinking about before I even answered this question, I was saying, you know how Team USA won the gold this season, pardon me, this Olympic year. But they may not be the best basketball females in the world because they lost in the All-Star game to Kaitlyn Clark, Angel Reese,

Cheryl Miller coaching, and they got smacked by them. And they went off to beat, win the Olympics, that team with Shorty. Was Shorty named Steph from Vegas out here? Best player in the world. With Asia and the crew. And they got smacked by Angel Reese.

And Shorty was mixing on them. Yeah. She was going crazy. They may not be the best basketball players in the world. That team that beat them in the All-Star game may be the best team in the world. Oh, like Team WNBA versus their team. Yeah, because, yeah, they did get crushed.

Yeah, they smacked them, but that team that they smacked when they won the Olympics, they should come back and play them again. Yeah, they should come back and play them again after the season's over and see how that go because y'all aren't the best team in the world. The best team in the world, as far as I'm concerned, is the team that beat you.

Now, I'm not saying y'all not nice, but they didn't just beat y'all, they smacked y'all. It was crazy. Now, the reason I give this award to Kaitlyn Clark over Angel Reese is just because of Angel Reese's shooting percentage. She has a, seriously, she, a lot of times, she gets these double, double rebounds.

She had 20 points, 20 rebounds. But if you look at it, it was one play I was watching her when she was playing the Aces against Asia and the crew. And one play she got four rebounds in. She missed her shot three times. Four times in a row she keeps getting her own rebound. And that's bringing her shooting percentage down. So her rebounds are up,

but her shooting percentage is down. Now if her shooting percentage goes up, her rebounds may come down. And just purely off that fact, but outside of that, that's only if I had to pick, I think Mace had a sensational answer. If we could give them co-rookie of the

year, that'd be great because we have to think about this. For the last two and a half years, and I'm really, really going to miss them, man. I wish the WNBA had something in between at the end of this season and next season because it's going to be a long offseason of

not seeing Angel Reese or Kaitlyn Clark. We have to realize they probably in the spotlight the last two and a half, three years because they're playing college basketball. And they were going at it back and forth along with South Carolina as well. And it was really, really intriguing. But this past year, we got to see something special because we got to see them play college basketball. Not only when the college basketball season was over, the NBA, WNBA season picked up a month and a half, two months right after that.

So we get to see them play an extended period of time. So we've been watching these young ladies play probably since last October, maybe November, into right now. So we don't usually get that long of a time period with Angel Reese and Kaitlyn Clark. And both you ladies have done a great job pushing the woman game forward. Sensational. And it's been a pleasure to watch.

So whoever wins the award, congratulations. We'll see what happens. But I think Mesa's suggestion is the best suggestion at the moment. Yeah. And then last two things before we close. So what you were saying about the Pistons, that's interestingly put because she did wear the Rodman jersey through the tunnel, but she's also been wearing a lot of Pistons gear. It is rumored she's with somebody from Pistons.

Y'all can do your own research because we ain't talking about nobody's business. First thing. Second thing, co-rookie of the year that was back with Jason Kidd and Grant Hill in 1995. So it is a thing. Maybe they'll do something a little different. I don't like that. I don't like that piston idea, but she's not my daughter.

But if she was, I don't like that. I'm gonna take Paige out of Cam's books. I don't like that. What don't you like? I don of Cam's book I don't like that I don't like that Just the dating? Just a piston You know niggas just playing for chicken And all of that

I wouldn't have my daughter dating no niggas That gotta win a game Or get points to get chicken They playing that bad I don't want her in that environment so basically what you're saying is when the WNBA season

is over and if she is dealing with somebody from the Pistons you don't even want to I don't want that I'm not here for it okay no comment from me okay that's all the time that we have for today I don't want that. I'm not here for it. Okay. No comment from me. Okay, that's all the time that we have for today. Thanks for

watching, and as always, it is what it is. Yeah, I don't like that. He said he can't be a Pistons.