IT IS WHAT IT IS - ANTMAN IS BACK, 76ERS TIE IT IN BOSTON, VRABEL & RUSSINI BEING DRAGGED & PRIVACY VS. PUBLIC DATING!

Episode Date: April 22, 2026

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Welcome back to It Is What It is. I'm your host, Arabia, Tillery, Infrastat Baby, this week, along with Mace and Cam. Killer, what's good, man? How you doing today? I'm good, man. How you? I'm doing really good, man. We got Mo on today?

We have Mo on today, joined by one of our favorite analysts, Maurice Claret. How you doing, Mo? Palm Tree Moe was good. Yeah, I'm doing great. I'm doing better than Arabia. He grabbed this hat. Ohio City hat. Why would you do that?

That was the first thing I saw. Don't miss me on. Grab this hat. Doing better than Aramie. Yeah, let's sit it all. Let's let it all. I got a question for you. It's draft week.

How many guys from Michigan going on the first round? Okay, Moe, don't do too much because first of all, we had a whole draft plan. Before this week when I was going to be here, Mo and I decided that we were going to meet up in Pittsburgh at the draft because there's so many Ohio State guys being drafted. And we were going to do a nice radio show. And I invited him to do a pregame kind of pre-draft show. And now you're trying to wave the Ohio State flag. Why you ain't where your Husky's hat?

Why you ain't talking about none of that basketball Ohio State stuff? Where do you call on stuff at? Hey, hey, can you make some of Kim? Can y'all ask you where I'm at? Where you at, Mo? Where you at, Mo? I'm in Pittsburgh. I'm in Pittsburgh, fellas.

I'm where I'm supposed to be. Pittsburgh Wi-Fi is kind of whack because you're freezing and shit. Yeah. It's that damn hat. The sports guards, you know, when they know and they get lying, they just glitch them.

Glitch them. Well, what I would say is this, that since Arabia has been moderating this week, there's a lot of, been really polite, man. I'm not really used to be being polite.

I know he's playing a different role in all that, but, you know, this is a rabia tillery. I don't know if this is all NFL turned to disappear, man. Well, you know, I have to kind of be a guest in the house. I got to kind of warm, but we're going to get into it. I already know. You're not going to guess. You've been away for two years. You're not a year and a half, so maybe you're just new and stupid.

But you're not really new to the show, but do as you please, Mo. I like the energy. Yeah. I'm there hot, nigger. So how many players do you have going to? the draft. I don't know. I'm not being facetious. You know way better than me. You knew the nigga going on my team

from the Giants bad than me. So I'm asking a serious question. It might be one, maybe. But it's really not a lot. It's really not a lot. Is Moe back yet or he's out? Oh, yeah. Because you know what, Mo? Like I said, you guys, you know,

that's what makes us brilliant to bring you guys in because your knowledge is way more than our knowledge when it comes to football, especially college football. But I've seen some shit, if I'm not mistaken. Didn't the coach just get probation or some shit? Sharon Moore?

Yeah. Yeah, let's talk about it. Because it was all these allegations and Mo was hitting the group chat, sending all the articles and the videos. But it was crickets when it came out that the girl was lying and Sharon Moore wasn't actually stalking her

and all the allegations got cleared up. So we ain't talk about that. I don't know. Yeah, you got clear his name. Yeah, clear his name. He ain't do that. That lady was lying on that black man. So why did he get probation?

Well, maybe some other stuff stuck. Maybe he did something, but he ain't do all this talking stuff. If you don't get probation for being Scott free. No, you don't. Yeah, you don't. Yeah, well, he ain't do what they said. And then you don't get your job back with that either. No, they're never hiring another black man in Michigan for the next 50 years.

There you go. How you feel about that, Mo? Well, Arabia left out that, you know, Sharon Moore was the, intricate part of the investigation last year. So he probably went to them and said, hey, if y'all don't give me probation, I'm going to tell these niggas would really happen. When Arbaugh left,

that's what happened. So Arabia, you don't think, you don't, you don't think that the black coach who took the fall for John Harbaugh last year when they came and got him for messing with this girl,

I don't want to say white woman because they'll clip that and make me look bad on the media when he was messing with this woman, messing around on his wife with this woman, you don't think that had nothing to do with him getting probation? I'll say it, messing with this white woman. Yeah, I think all the time black men get the short end of the stick.

And this white woman prayed on him because she knew that he was in a position of power and she could take advantage of the situation and get him in trouble to try to advance her career. And, you know, he ended up getting in trouble, getting probation, X, Y, and Z. But I wasn't there. And as somebody, Cam knows, who has a pending case out myself,

I'm not going to say what he did, allegedly or not. So I don't know what happened. But I know his name is a pleaser. Let's be clear. Let's be clear because it sounded a little fishy. You have a pending case out that I know about. Yes. Yeah.

Yes. Does it sound like I have a pendant case. I do not have a thing. Yeah. I was scratching my head. What is the case? No, she has a pendant case that I know about. Yes.

I just want to be clear. You get finished. Go ahead. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I mean, it's, congratulations to all the Ohio State guys. We're not going to talk too much about them, even though you did the most, wearing this hat today. But I met them. I talked to a lot of them at the Combine, and I really wish them the best.

I want some of them on my team, actually. But I want to say two things. There's a projected to have four of them in the first round. That's true, right? Talk it. And I am in Pittsburgh where I'm supposed to be. Talk, see, you know what, Modis explains a lot, because, you know, First of all, Arabia did us a really big favor coming in this week,

knowing that it's a draft week, and that's her main priority. So I love her for that, for coming in and everything. But when I originally spoke to her, I was like, if you come in for a couple days, then we get you out to Pittsburgh. We will. Well, she's like, I'll stay the whole week. But maybe this explains why she's staying the whole week. Because Mo is there.

Niggies from Ohio State. Trying to duck, niggins. Yo, Kim, them needed me. You know I go with the team first, which I appreciate it. She's explaining a lot right now. I'm not complaining. I say this.

You are to, now she is a team player. She made sure that she hit me up. She said, hey, I'll be there. And we was going to do some content on behalf of it is, what it is.

And so I will give her that. I'll just be honest. I'm going to throw you up under the bus. It was undecided if I was going to be out here, if I was going to be able to make it from a speaking engagement I had, but I ended up being able to make it at the last minute.

And then I was going to pop up and say, hey, man, I can grab all these Ohio State players just to help to get content for the channel. So she's a team player. Thank you very much. And it's really my pleasure being here. So thank you for having me. And we all miss that, baby. And, you know, Trista did such a great job last week. It's really my pleasure to be here.

No, thank you. Of course. Now, let's move on from Ohio State. The Timberwolves beat the Nuggets 119 to 114. Maurice, a 19-point comeback for Ant Man and the Wolves. What did you think about this comeback win? Oh, well, he just said he was a man on a mission. you know, started out slow.

You know, I don't know if it's just from a layoff from an injury. I don't know if it's the acclamation of, you know, the playoffs. I don't know what it is, but, you know, obviously when you start off slow pause, you know, you find yourself or you find the rhythm in the game. That comes from great coaching adjustments. But I think this, and I'll say this after watching every game, I think this may have, this may be the best series, in my opinion. I think you have just the two different styles of play for both teams.

I think you have a young athletic team that is like, hey, you know, we're going to come and steal the show from you all. I think the history, the beef that they've had in the past from over the years plays a role into it. But I think that Ant Man is a phenomenal talent. But I think out of all of the games that will be played in the playoffs from everybody who's upset everybody thus far, I think the Timberwolves and the Nuggets will go down to the best series in this first round of playoff games. Yeah, I think when it comes to this series, I'm really, I'm really torn pause when they come to their series because I want Denver to return to greatness, but I also want Ant Man to do exactly what the Timberwolves are doing, which is win these

games. I really want the Timber Wars to win. But if they win, they're not going anywhere. The next round, they're out. So it's one of those things where, you know, a team beats a team, but you know they're not going further than that. So I had to even think about, do I really even want them to win. I said I wanted them to win because it would be better for Denver to go on. But it just seemed like Denver having figured it out. They're not in this playoffs. It seemed like nobody, I mean, most of the teams don't really know what they want to do. So this has been a weird first round for me to watch. Yeah, I agree with you more. I think this is the best series in the first round. And Denver got out-coached. But that's what happens when your coach is scared of your

star player. The star player is really running the team and the coach has no real say over the star player. This is what happens. I think the Joker does an outstanding job for a player coach. You know, we see LeBron do it from time to time when Mike Brown was the coach and different coaches that he had. We've seen a few people do it, but Joker's just, you know, you got to think about this, right? If you're the Joker who a lot of people consider to be the best player in the world the last three, four, maybe five years and he didn't like his last coach and his last last coach got fired even though they won the championship? Mason, what do you think the coach is going to do?

Like, he's like, I don't want to get fired because the last nigger won a championship and he got fired. Maybe we should run the plate of Joker want to run. Imagine being in the huddle of coach say, we're going to run this play and Joker say, no, the fuck we're not. We're going to run this player. What the fuck you're going to do? You're like, yeah, I don't want to lose my job because if you lose your job,

the year after you win a championship. is kind of wild to me. But this series is really, he got out-coached last game. I'll say that. I think Mace made a great assessment. Does Minnesota, if they win the series, go to the Western Conference Championship

by winning the next series. I'm not sure about that. So it's tough, man. Julius Randall did what he had to do. You know, we always talk about him being a great third option. Will he be a good second option? He was a good second option last game.

Jamal Murray and the Joker for the Nuggets did what they had to do, but the missing piece who didn't do what he had to do was Aaron Gordon. Aaron Gordon, eight points, so on and so forth. Those three were a major part of that championship the year that they went along with Bruce coming off the bench. They're going to have to play like this. But listen, there's two games. Everybody who played so far two games, we'll get to other games. It's one in one.

So we'll see what happens. in second game, but it's good for the road team. You know, Tyrese Halliburton said that when he's up here, the series doesn't start until somebody wins on the road. So now we have a series and we'll see what happens. Oh, yeah. I also wanted to say, I think when it comes to this Minnesota team, if we're talking about the things that really make this team go,

I think last year we didn't see DeV Vincenzo show up. This is the first year in the playoffs, which is the second year, that he actually showed up in this game. And if he shows up with 15 to 16 points, they're a total different team. And that's what we got the chance to see because he keeps everybody honest with Ant Man. So that was good to see as well. So you guys are saying that this is the best series in the playoffs. Mel, I'll start with you.

Do you think this is going to go the distance all seven games? Wait, wait. I don't think this is the best series. I think the best series is Atlanta and the Knicks, right? Because that's one-in-one. I'm from New York. live in Atlanta. So for me, that's the best series

because it seemed like that series can go either way. Every game, it's like somebody's winning by just this much. So that's a real good series. That wasn't the first game. The first game, you knew the next year's going on.

That's a day game, CJ McCullough, a day before yesterday. C.J. McCullough was like he was from Portland. Yeah, Mace, I'm not disagree with you because you're playing homo in both cities. He's a way, tight and town. Yeah, yeah. So I dig it, but at the end of the day,

C.J. McCullough definitely looked like the best play on the floor in the garden other day. Then they're booing them. It's a really great series. But we're talking about Star Power. We got to think about, I'm not saying it wrong, just my opinion. Jokers either go home or Ant Man's going home. Yeah, somebody's going home.

And Ant Man's not even 100% healthy and still had things. 30 points. So even though I do agree because you know why Mace, the garden be so exciting. When you watch it, it's intense. Everybody's theirs. You know, New York, they just be speedballing, bro. They just can't wait to speedball.

Sin called me early this morning talking about yeah, I was just in CAP, USA. They want to know why you're a murder. Just keep hating on us day after day after day. Yo, Cap USA, I spent at least 100,000 their hats in the career in that store, man. Leave me alone. I bought a bunch of hats out of Cap USA. When y'all win the Knicks, it'll be we won to Knicks. I'll be back.

I'm just not there for the heartache and pain. I've been through it too much. Maurice, did you have something to say about this being the best series? Nothing more just I was talking to Nick through text. And I was saying, I was telling him just the styles of play. just the history that both teams have. And it kind of like alluded to what Mace was talking about where you want,

like you want Ant Manning those guys to go forward, but I don't think that they have the depth. And I don't think anybody's going to beat the Spurs. You know, once Wembe's back, I just don't see anybody beating the Spurs, not even OKC over seven game series. I think it's their time. But nonetheless, I just like that.

It's two different styles of basketball. It's like the traditional routine old school versus the young guy, like the, I stat would call it the Young Hotness, sort of those two styles of basketball playing each other. So I don't know. I enjoy watching it. Okay.

Well, speaking of the Spurs and really close games, Portland beat the Spurs 106 to 103, tying the series 1-1-1. Maurice, what did you think about this game? Well, I don't know. I didn't think too much of it once Wembe went out. You know, I just seen how they played him in the first game where he was stopping, what is the guy name,

the guy who was driving the Israeli guy. Did he? Yeah. Yeah, I seen how Wimby was the paint presence and that had disrupted the Spurs. Not Spurs, Trailblazers' whole offense during the first thing. But when he went down with the concussion, I knew that the Trailblazers will have a chance. But, you know, once he's back, I don't even consider this a game. I think that, like I said, Spurs are dominant.

I think that this is their year. I don't know that's Cam's team, but they'll be, I'm on the bandwagon this year to have them win it all this year. Wow, Mo. I was thinking about this series, right? Because I was, it's a lot going on here. Wimby goes out early, which I think is going to be phenomenal. If Wimby just come back with the Black Mask, he'll be in Goat Territory, LeBron wore the Mass.

I think Mike wore the Black Mask. Kobe wore the Black Mask. This might be the new. Cari. Yeah, Cari, everybody that came back with the Black Mask went crazy. Rip Hamilton. Yeah, Rip Hamilton. Yeah.

When that black mask come out, it get crazy. So he fell on his face, hopefully come back healthy with the black mask on, get it done. And we're out of this series. I mean, the most important thing that I saw in that game was Scoot Henderson, right? I did not know School Henderson was that good. I mean, I knew he was good, pause, but I didn't know he could shoot the ball that well. Just two seasons ago, he couldn't shoot the ball. So shout out to even the old school, my old school peer when it comes to Chauncey Billups.

I know they're not giving Choncy credit right now, but Chonsie developed this guy. He's playing good. He had 30 against the Spurs. And that's a tough team to get 30 about because you got so many great wings out there. So I like the way this is looking. I like this series. I just think if Wembe's there, like you said, Moe, They would have ran away with this game.

But even them getting a game, I think it's really good and very encouraging for the Portland fans out there. Trish, you got to win. I totally disagree with Scottie. Chansy developing this team. I think Tiazza Splitter deserves a lot of credit. They wasn't doing shit when this nigga, Chansy was there. Last year, even this year. For them to finish where they make it even to the playoffs was a big deal.

They needed a coaching change. Don't get it fucked up. Charlie, my man. but as we can see he had other things going on where he can't dedicate yourself to the team. He's not proving guilty yet, though, killer. Well, let me tell you, since you want to touch on that, was bad for Charlsey and listen, I'm not doing nothing but reporting.

When you're co-defendant, please guilty. Damon Jones played guilty. It doesn't look good. Damon Jones said, I'm tapping out now. I'm pleading guilty. Chelsea, you want to fight? I'm blaming. Mo, you know

you already know what time it is. Your co-defendant plead guilty. You're like, word, nigga. You're going to plead guilty. I don't know we're going to fight this. Chaucee working out of deal right now. Because Damon Jones, if they call him in the testify, it's bad.

I don't know what part of deal kind of deal Damon Jones made or whatever deal he made. He said, yo, I'm tapping out. So. We're doing to see. Damon Jones, even according to the internet and according to media, Damon Jones implicated, who is that? LeBron and Anthony Davis, so are we still going with what Damon Jones says?

See, Mace, I think you ought to come to me and more about this because you're using implicated, and that's not what he did. Turn chat, GPTO, let me tell you what happened. What happened was. Because he, Damon Jones told niggas, when he was coaching LeBron, yo, LeBron's hurt. Better on the Lakers losing. That's what he did.

He didn't implicate LeBron into crime. So like me and Moe was saying, when your co-defendant be telling, it doesn't look good, you know what I'm saying? So what Damon Jones did was give insider information and shit Martha Stewart went to jail for. Which to me, morally, which is one of the sentence words, I don't think that's fucked up to me.

Look, right? This is how it worked for me. If Mace is coaching the Nuggets, assistant coach, and be like, yo, nobody know yet, but Joker got the flu. I'm just telling you. Do what you got to do with that information. Then you go bet 50,000.

Yeah, you ain't implicated me. No, no, I ain't even talking about implicate. I'm talking about as niggas. That's like a sweet niggas. I didn't even talk about the case no more. I'm talking about if you're coaching the Nuggets, like you're one of the trainers, and you tell me that the Joker is sick,

do what you want with that. Nigger, I don't see nothing wrong with it personally. But that's inside of trading for what they say when you're talking about Wall Street and everything else. That's what Martha Stewart went to jail for. Inside of trading, yo. I'm giving you the jump on this shit right now for the stock rate.

he's by 500,000 stocks real quick. Then when you jump, you turn a risk. I don't think it's nothing wrong with it. But obviously, it's something wrong with it because you're getting inside information as one of the coaches or trainers or whatever Damon Jones situation was. And, you know, he's tapping out.

He's basically tapping out. So back to the game. I think Tiago split considering where the Nuggets been the last couple years has done a tremendous job getting the nuggets to where they're at now. When I see Denny, right, and Tris more proud, I'll say his name for the rest of this, your name, the rest of this season when I bring him up. Because I was actually, you know, we're sitting there talking about do we want Sagoong over Denny? And I'm not going to say, I'm putting them even right now because Denny got more in the bag. You know, Sagoons are great big man. But Denny Bagg, you know, he looking like, I ain't going to say the $100,000 burkin.

We're going to give him the $22,000 burking right now. He's looking pretty good. His bag is looking all right. So with that being said, I like the way he's playing. But to Mesa's point, Scoot Henderson, he looked really good, had 13 points in the first quarter. And when I'm watching him, I'm thinking about not him, not comparing them to yet. I'm thinking about Kay Cunningham, right? Because Scoot Henderson, when you think about this, right, you get Scoot Henderson,

then all of a sudden, C.J. McCullough's going. Then Damien Lillard's gone. Even though Damien Lillard's back, they're like, man, we got the back court of future. And sometime, this doesn't develop right away. You know, this is his third year in the league. And Simons. Yeah, yeah.

That's what I'm saying. They thought they'd get rid of McCullough and Lillard and have Simons and Henderson. Yeah. And that wasn't working out to the point where Dave's back actually in Portland. He's just hurt. But it didn't work out. But, you know, we're in a do it for me now, pause, error.

And you don't get players time to develop. Like, we're okay, cut a ham down now. I'm not talking about us necessarily. I'm talking about where people are talking about how he should be a finalist for MVP, so on and so forth. But we talked about in the first two years, they'd be like, who is this light skin, nigger, the niggas guy? Come on, man. Well, y'all invested in this and everybody doesn't, you know, develop overnight. Everybody ain't microwave, niggins.

Sometimes you got to put that shit in the oven and let it sit and cook. And then you get something delicious. Pause, not talking about them. Talking about food, actually. It's making it. I said, pause, nigger. Might have to override it. Oh, whoa.

See what happens? See what happens? You see what happens. And I'm an overrule. I meant to say overrule. I'm an overrule. Override. You want to override it.

Thank you. Yeah, well, I completely agree with you. I don't think there's anything morally wrong with kind of this insider information and looking at for your friends. Well, obviously, the loss is different. So it is what it is. Next game, the 76ers beat the Celtics 11-197 in game two. The 76ers were nearly 50% from the three.

Maurice, what did you think about the 76ers win over Boston? I thought it was a significant win, but this goal is not very similar to the Timberwolves versus the Nuggets, but it's like somebody who you want to see fight to win. I'm talking about the 76 against the Celtics being the Celtics are. They were the champions a few years back. You want to see them advanced, but you know if they do advanced. They're not going to do too much, but it's impressive that they're doing it without Joel and Bid.

But obviously, Tariash Maxey, and I think is Vijay, Edge Comar, however you say his last name. Yeah, the young guys came to play, and they may be looking at it like, hey, you know, Jason Taylor. You know, because when you're young, you say these old niggas, you want a nigga like three or four years older than you, they may be looking at Jason Tatum. Jelan Brown is two guys to knock off and show that, hey, you know, we're the force of the east and we don't need Joel and B to beat y'all. So I thought it was impressive. I don't know if they'll be able to sustain it, but I thought it was impressive that they got to win on the away court. Yeah, this was a, this definitely was an impressive win for Philadelphia.

But I think, you know, when it comes to Pritchie, it comes to Derek White, they just shot us out the gym, you know? All of these threes they miss. and this is what happens when you bank on the three so much, right? Because you miss three and then somebody else get three. It's a six point turnaround. But I would say this. I'm not sure right now if this win is going to help them in the fact that all they did is made Boston really mad.

They're going to come back and win the next two games in Philadelphia. So, you know, sometime you win these type of games in the playoffs when you know the history, a basketball and you just turn the other team up. I think this is exactly what Boston needed to happen for the coach to go in there and say, now, come on, y'all got a rookie out here getting 30 points. Is this what we're doing, Tatum? Did you come back for this, Paul? Are you going to let Edgecombe come out here and outshine you and Jalen Brown?

And I think they come back next game, put the clamps on them, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, the rest of this Philadelphia team? I think that your point is exactly my point, but on a different narrative. I think Joe Missoula is a hell of a coach, you know, especially what he did this year with Tatum out. Expectations were low. They finished second and the east, so on and so forth.

But exactly right, Mace, you can't go 13 for 50 and keep shooting threes. You just can't do it, man. If you're the coach, you got to, enough. Enough's enough, man. We are off tonight. Let's go to the Baha. You have to say something as a coach.

You can't just keep letting your team miss three after three after three. If this was a close game, I would say, it's no big deal. But they weren't about 14 points. This wasn't like it was a close game. And then they actually was leading going into the fourth quarter and then outscored Boston again by seven points in the fourth quarter. And all that does is build confidence up for a rookie like a head. who looked at the camera and gave the camera a wink on the way out. Now you got Esch Cohen as a rookie first time in the playoffs,

winking it, niggas, paws at home. You know, Tyrese Maxie, we know where he comes to the table to bring All-Star, fast as fuck, great point guard. Now you got Paul George playing third for the light. Rock out, young niggas. I'll be here. I hear what niggas talk about me, Cam and them niggas. I don't need to be the goat.

I need to win. And I think that that's what it was about. But to Mesa's point, this is what Boston may say. All right, niggins. This is what we doing. Yeah, y'all got podcast, niggins out here getting 19. Yeah, now you winking in the camera and all that shit. I don't think that Boston is shoot that bad again.

I don't see this as a very, very big deal. But at the same time, this is a win on the Celtics home floor. So once again, when you win on somebody else's home floor, you now have home court advantage. So we'll see how that plays out. You know what I was going to say? Yeah, go ahead. Over the last few takes, y'all know how I feel about America, but we've talked about all American players.

I know that. Yeah. Hold on, man. Ant-Man, I'm just saying. Last week I was telling you, we got Ant-Man, who, you know, trying to take the spotlight. You have, what is the kid he just talked about from, The Trailblazers.

Denny. Antichomes for Philadelphia. Edgson. So I got a lot of flack last week because I said I was hating on the foreigners, but we're talking about American basketball players. But Denny's not from America, one. Oh.

I think is always putting something their pee pocket for next week. I know what I'm going to get him with. I'm going back with this one. He was from Israel, but I think he played a miracle man. I don't know. We're two out of three. Two out of three.

Yeah, well, maybe this is the fire that Boston needs to put under their feet for them to kind of get ahead in this series. So we'll see how that debate. Let me ask, before we go next time, let me ask Mason and Maurice a question real quick. because we didn't get a chance to touch on this pause on this show. Last week, the NBA has said that Luca and Kay Cunningham are eligible for awards and all NBA teams because their situation was, you know, unusual. It didn't happen, and they only missed it only by two games.

So if I'm somebody who, like, You know, I'm not sure I've known the rule been around probably about six years now, maybe five, six years. But, you know, you have people who have history of hamstring injuries like Chris Paul forever. And other people who may have been injured that missed only one and two games not to be eligible. Do you think this is fair? I'll start with you, Mo. That cutting him and then we know it was a collapsed lung, so we're not acting like there's no bullshit injury. and Luca, is it fair for them to be eligible for awards and to make all NBA teams?

Good question. I would say no because I would say the rule is a rule. And then it's like that's like a subjective view on what somebody feels is right or wrong. So it puts it into like a man-made or man-perceived ideology. So the short answer is no. I don't think it's fair because everybody could justify why they miss games or why they didn't meet the criteria. So I would say no. I like that answer, Mo.

I was going to say opposite, Mo. So let me give my take and then I'm going to come back and say why it is. I agree with you. I was actually going to say, you know, I think Lucas case should stay the same. Like, no, he's not eligible. But when it comes to a collapse lung, I was going to cut them, you know, cut them some slack. But we're not up here for slack. The rule says this, man.

This is the time you got to be there. This is the hours you got to put in. And if the basketball guards don't see fit for you to be in that list, you don't get the trophy. I told killer this. This is why the trophy says 2006. It's only for the people who were available in 2000. If you're available in 2027, get the trophy in 2027, but you wasn't available. And the best ability is availability.

So I would have to say, nah, just you got to get it next year, sir. I was going to ask you. Like, I was wondering, when he asked the question, I started thinking about, are they trying to market Cade and are they trying to market Luca to have these streets of like all-NBA, you know, consecutive all-MBA seasons or something like. that. I don't know why I started thinking about that, but I was like, does this help with the marketing? Are there some business attached to wanting to make these guys all NBA players? Always. Always. Always. Killa.

It's a great question, bro, because it depends on who you're looking at, right? So, for instance, Yonis wanted to play. They knew they wasn't going to playoff. They shut them down. But he ain't get his Nike bonus, right? They say, yo. Good take. You say, yo man, we don't feel like cutting that check, right? And when you, it's, when you're in these categories, everybody contract is different, but I'm pretty sure everybody contract applies. If you're the joker, you probably get a $500,000 bonus if you make all NBA.

If you're Denver, you know, of course you want to keep him happy, But at the same time, you may be like, hold that million, man. We, we, I don't know if I'm going to give this nigga a million, my nigga. Kay Cunningham, same scenario. But at the same time when you're somebody who's, you know, it's no wrong answer for this. Because to Mace's point, it's marketing. You can say, if you're Denver, yo, nigger, we got the best player, first team all NBA, X amount of years. but if you're penny pension

and you're a penny pension owner you may want to save money and be like yo I don't necessarily care if this nigga makes all NBA I need this nigga to fucking win in the playoffs and save me a million dollar bonus that I don't have to give them you know

Arabia can probably elude that it's better than I can I sit there and say football is probably the worst because basketball you can sit there and kind of take things into your own hands a little bit but you sit there and you know wide receiver and you need seven yards to get your bonus and tickets

is looking this way and you over here when that back in the huddle you're like, yo, you're playing my kids, nigga? Yo, I know you're not playing with my kids. That's what you're doing now. Because now I looked over there and you was covered. No, I wasn't

covered, nigga. You know what? I'm gonna take it like you're playing my money. Because in basketball you could take the ball and try and do things on your own if you need to. Football, you gotta have, that's the ultimate team, you gotta hope a nigga pass it to you know.

You see that in the movie every given Sunday. When niggas is sitting, they say, yeah, I need my boning. I remember, what was the last season? Season before last, I forget what it was. It was a certain amount of yards for Mike Evans to get,

for him to get his bonus. He got it too. And I was like, well, what if the coach is telling you, I don't give a fuck with it. Mike Evans is telling you. Don't pass it to him. Yeah.

You know, it's messed up. So it's a lot of bonuses that come with what you accomplished on the court or in the field, etc. Yeah. They say that that was one of the reasons why Stefan Diggs was kind of frustrated towards the end of last season in New England because there were certain incentives that he was super close to, but they weren't really playing him. He didn't have a lot of targets and they kind of didn't have him in the game. So I'm sure he's not too broken up about being released from the Patriots. Speaking of football, journalist in sports reporter Diana Rusini was recently spotted with Patriots head coach Mike Vrable.

She recently resigned from her job at the athletic amid the alleged scandal, and Mike Vrable came out and said that he's been having some difficult talks over the photos that surfaced. Maurice, there are some people that are saying that there may not have been any foul play in that if you've been in an industry for long enough, you get to know people and build relationships and that they just have a close relationship from being with each other for so long. So number one, do you think that they actually had an inappropriate relationship with each other?

And number two, do you think this is a bad look for women in this male-dominated industry? I don't know what type of relationship to have, right? I'll tell you this. I couldn't get that shit off that he was doing. You know what I'm saying? Yeah, you were just in the hot tub. It wasn't nothing. Yeah.

Yeah, so, hey, but listen to me. We all, perception is reality. And I remember when this came out, I said, you know, you can't explain that. And I was talking to my wife, right? Like, you can't be laid out by the pool with a whole other woman while you married. You can't be like interlocking fingers while you married. Like, you can't even be grabbing another man's wife like that, even if she's married or however it go, both of them. And so sometimes we get caught running routes, right?

And shit happens. And that's what he got caught. You got caught running the route on his wife. And even if they didn't go and take it any further, just that enough was enough. right? And I just always said, they said the truth has a little explanation. And when you start explaining all this stuff away and people start running from their jobs, like, you know, he just got caught doing some bullshit. That's all it is. So talk about it, ask your wife for forgiveness, you know, go to therapy if you have to and then move on with life.

I don't know if it was the hot tub or the water springing out of the water. That made it crazy. Yeah, when I saw the picture, I was like, you know, because I'm an analyst, I analyze a lot of things. I wasn't just looking at them, like, you know, talking by the pool. It was how he was holding their hands. Like, if you look at the picture, if you understand body language, right, killer, he got a hand out here. She got her hands like this. And she, like, what, what, it was too intimate. It was, it was no way that was friendship.

Just from the body language, everything about the picture says you two know, and this is just my observation from the picture. It says you two know each other very intimately. It was, it was the way she was subjected to him. It was just everything about it was wrong. It wasn't like just a piece of it was wrong. And like Killers said earlier, if you're innocent. you don't you don't you don't you don't ask for probation you don't you don't walk away and

resign if you're innocent why am i resigning if i'm innocent is it got a little bit of guilt written all over it i'm not resigning i didn't do anything you go i go after you i think she did it um there is a clip going out of diana russini over the last few months or years and she it seems like she does not like her husband she she She's been saying, oh, I'm married to an average guy and I don't really post him a lot. And just the way that she speaks about him in interviews unsolicited. Nobody asked her. And she'll unsolicited just have all these negative things to say about her husband over the last few, again, months or years.

I don't know however long. And it seems like she's the type that would and has stepped out of her marriage based on all of these clips that were put together in a collage. So I definitely think that they were engaged in an inappropriate relationship. And as far as women in the media, people have inappropriate. relationships with their significant, with their workplace bosses and stuff all the time. So I think because she's a woman in a male-dominated industry, it doesn't look good, but it's nothing unique. Dentists have inappropriate relationships with their nurses and professors and students

and all kinds of things. So I think they did it. But it's a very common occurrence. So I don't think there's necessarily. You think they did what, though? What exactly do you think? I think they had sex several times. I think they've been on dates.

I think they have inappropriate calls and texts and just have inappropriate. relationships based on two people who are married. That's what I think. But I don't know. And then also, these photos surfaced at the annual coaches meeting that happens in Phoenix, Arizona. So these particular pictures that came out were probably taken by another coach or a coordinator or someone who was attending these annual meetings, which is even crazier. This isn't like paparazzi or fans.

These are other coaches posting or, you know, somehow leaking these pictures. So I definitely think they did it. So she resigned and he told him about what the nigger verbal did? He said that he's been having difficult talks based on the photos that surfaced. Difficult talks. We see, we posted pictures on the show. I remember we posted them on the show. We talked about this, but she didn't resign at the time.

But difficult talks with who? I'm assuming like with his wife and, you know, just at home. Because that's the most difficult. They can talk about difficult talks. That's what I was thinking. Who else you have a difficult talks with? Because you know, Robert Kraft understand. You know where he got caught at?

Niggins said, I digger. Even though Robert Kraft is a widderer, if I'm pronouncing it correct. He gets them handy. He understands. So he do. He got busted. I don't see nothing wrong.

with Robert Craft is doing. And I love Arabian's point of view, but when you say difficult talks, I was wondering who the difficult talks was. And then what May said, if you're not guilty, why are you resigning? The reason I bought this up, right,

I wanted to go last, is because I'm going to go a little stuff forever. I was seeing how when this report came out in females, you know I love y'all, man. You know I love y'all. And I just rather sometimes females be like,

I don't want to make sense. I just rather them say that than try to make sense out of some shit that don't make sense. Be like, yo, you know what? Fuck all that. He was wrong. I don't want to make sense.

I wouldn't respect that more than you trying to act like you making sense about some shit that don't make sense. I like that better. That's actually a good point. Yeah, like I'm so emotionally fucked mad about it. I'm not here to make sense. I respect that.

You know what I'm saying? I like that. Because then I can know, okay, we're not here to make sense. I can move on from it. You know, the one comment, and I'm not going to get, I'll leave that part alone,

but the one comment, that I, not the one comment, there's several comments that I've seen from females about this topic was that, why is it always the lady that got to resign? The lady, it's always the lady that got to leave.

La-da-da-da-da-da-da. And I'm like, I'm like, Ewa-Doka had to leave. Washington. The lady kept her job, right? And Amidoka was doing this thing. Put this shit all out there with knee along, all his business and everything else.

And then have to resign. And the lady kept her job. So females be seeing what they want to see. They don't see when the nigger got a resign. They turn a blonde eye to that sometime. So that's when I was like, don't want to make sense. I think it was the black guy who had a resign.

The white guy don't have to resign. I like that one too. Because, you know, I was a white woman as well. Yeah. White stays. Black goes. White stays, black goes. So we have a new philosophy.

Yeah. And then you think about that, right? Imagine this, too. When you, first of all, we're going to get mad criticism if you're cheating on the along because she's beloved and, black women, love and et cetera.

But then you're going to cheat on that white bitch? Well, you're going to cheat with a white bitch or a knee alone. Like, you got to deal with all that, right? He's a deterred to lose his job. Yeah, yeah. He's a deterrent to lose it. You get all that, right? You know what I'm saying?

So I was looking at it, and I talked about this on, I'll talk about it here real quick with, with, actually all three of y'all, I asked all three of y'all, because y'all are all in relationships or married or whatever. So I talked about it on Talk with Flea, which came on Last Night and Revall. It comes on YouTube tonight, you can check it out. But I'll ask you guys, I bring here being that we're talking about this. Chris Brown and Usher doing a concert together coming. Mm-hmm.

Right. Good question. Right. Right. So we've seen what's been going on at these concerts. Usher cherries in the mouth. Chris Brown, wet kissing. You know, I don't want to say tongue.

Yeah, I don't want to say tongue, but the kisses is wet. I see it. You know, they just get home with it. The kisses is wet. The kisses is mad wet, man. So Chris Brown is footage of this lady. He's kissing her, and the husband's just sitting there shaking his head like this. And, you know, we've seen the cherries from usher, the bananas, the sorted fruits in females' mouth.

And then I talk about, I think, what's her name, Kiki Palmer, always forget him. It's more letting his girl go to this. No, no, no, listen, hold on, I'm going to get to it. Kiki Palmer, she's, her, whoever boyfriend, I always get this situation mixed up. Whoever he is, he just wanted out, right? Yeah. Now, I see him online because I put a clip out of it, right? Yeah.

I'm giving a little context before I get to you guys, right? So it's females online that's like, yo, y'all tripping. All y'all niggas talking about, better than that. If Beyonce wanted to kiss my husband, I would let him go up there and kiss my husband, da, da, da, da. And other girls were like, he better get over it, because if other girls, should call me up there, I'm dry-humping. I'm screenshot dry-humping. She said she's dry-humping.

This is a once-in-a-lifetime situation. The comments of the females that don't give a fuck, they're basically telling her, yo, I see one guy taggers girl, when they come to our city, you better not. She says, shit. So, I had some nice females, on the show from Chicago, and they, and you know, they made sense.

They actually said that, you know, they didn't respect what the females doing. They're not trying to embarrass their dudes. And they wouldn't do it. And they wouldn't mind if their husband do it. They're like, you know, I don't want my husband to be cool with Usher, tongue kissing me, etc. And I still went mine and Beyonce, they call my nigga up there to do it. And I'm like, that's the type of, I'm glad you get where I'm coming from. Yeah, they're making sense.

To ask you this month and Mace and Arabia. It don't got to be a wet kiss. It ain't got to be a fruit. It ain't because I already know where you got that. Would you mad if your girl caught usher up and they just get a little bit one of these, a little two stuff like this? They're armed left and they like this.

It's a two-step in arms left like this. Mom, it's usher. It's crazy with love. Yeah, step in the name. Are you mad if your wife gets a step in the name of love? Yeah. Yes. It ain't happening, man.

So she can't even get a step in the name of love. No. She been on me 21 years. She knows the dudes, the don'ts. Man, and don't embarrass me. Because you know what's going to happen? I'm going to say, damn, that's all it took. You know what I'm saying?

It's going to make me question all of my entire relationship. If I hold other man can get you about your seat and have you do anything you say. So it'll be done for me. I'm not petty when it comes to that. Oh. So I know. Y'all know the huggy, huggy, huggy, touchy, touchy, feeling if I even put my girl in that box or she even start, like, even participating,

because y'all know how I go, man. Yeah. It'd be a rap. Well, listen, right? Not saying because it's in the 90s, right? It's like, it's in the 90s. Oh, man. So sometimes.

You have girls, and we talk about when we was 15, 16 years old, whatever. And I knew that my man's girl wanted to bone me. And I knew that one of my girls might want to bone my men, so I may leave them in the crib and get like, I'm going to play basketball or whatever. And he'll bone my drink, vice versa. And then when we don't want to be bobbing on, we'd be like, yo, you fuck my man. And she'd be like, you put me in that situation anyway. You left me there.

Yo, this is what I'm talking about. They'll blame you because you want to go play basketball. And you put, you should have left me in that situation anyway. You can't. This is what I'm talking about. So I'll get to you or Rabia. It's a two-part question for you. Okay.

If you're with your boyfriend at the Usher concert and Usher and Chris Brown want you up there, would you go? Absolutely. not. No. For two reasons. Number one, I am extremely, extremely attracted to my boyfriend. Like, when I'm with one man, I don't even see anybody else. So I can recognize that Usher is an attractive man and Chris Brown is an attractive man and I can see the sex appeal. But I love my man and I'm attracted to my man. So nobody else really does it for me. So I don't even want to go up there. And also, we already know how Usher and Chris Brown get down at these concerts. So we've had a conversation in

the car on the way there. Like, all right, if they, I have a violent boyfriend. So, So if anything happens, he's ready to swing, he's ready to pop off. So I'm not even going to put him in a position to go to jail or get beat up by security because he's looking for confrontation. So I don't want to do it and I also don't want him swinging on nobody. So no, I don't even want to go up there. Now, would you be mad if y'all was a Beyonce concert and he went up there and kissed Beyonce?

Kissed Beyonce, yes. But get a lap dance by Beyonce or get twerked on by Beyonce or you know how Janet Jackson used to have him strapped up on a thing. Go do your thing, babe. I ain't Janet Jackson. Here is a thing. Men and women are different. So I think it will be cool if he gets that experience from Janet or from Beyonce.

Because I ain't Janet. I ain't Beyonce. So go, go have fun. Go do your thing. I'll be here when you get back. But it can be Super Bowl with Janet, right? It can be Super Bowl Janet. He gets a little titty, you know.

Okay. I don't mind. I'm just making sure we clear. I'm not doing it, but I don't mind if he does it. It's Janet. It's Rihanna. It's Beyonce. That's a once-in-lifetime experience.

I'm Arabia. Just blink if you need help. You're really violent. Blank three times. Yeah, it is not going down. Not with mine. Well, speaking of relationships, WNBA player Azey Fudd was drafted to the Dallas Wings,

a team that her ex-girlfriend, Paige Beckers, was also drafted to and already playing for. A reporter asked Aze Fudd about her relationship with Pagebecker, and the Dallas Wings quickly shut that question down. Maurice, do you think this was a perfectly reasonable question for the reporter to ask Aze Fud, or do you think there was a line that was crossed by the reporter asking about her personal life with Page Becker?

No, it was appropriate. For all intents and purposes, they promote, and they're open to their sexuality in the league. It's not like that. That's anything new. and even Azee Fudd and Paige Beckers, you know, both Yukon girls, they've, it's not like they've been hiding anything from anybody. I just think that you may have had somebody in PR that are just scared of the conversation or scared how it gets answered. But, you know, it is what it is, man.

It's 2026. You have same-sex relationships and, you know, they play for the same team and they're girlfriends. You know, I think the part that they didn't want to ask is that, you know, what happens if y'all fall out and y'all are on the team? And sort of the cat is out of the bag with that line of questions, but it is what it is. You know, I don't think it was inappropriate. It just, I think it was a PR team trying to stop other conversations from being spurned from that one. Yeah, I think, I think, what's your question again? Do you think it was an inappropriate relationship, or inappropriate question, or do you think that the Dallas wings were legitimized in shutting the question down? I think both.

I think it was a legitimate question because, you know, when there's new arms, you know, There's going to be other things that follow in with these situations, right? So that's why you have to ask the question because this is uncharted territory. And we don't know where exactly this is going to go. We got the concern of, we got three major concerns and even more than that, but we'll try to talk about three of them, or mentioning three of them. One concern is that what is it going to do for the team, right? What is it going to do for the team?

If they fall out, that was a. major one, right? Because everything is all good as long as it's good. And we are a killer talk about he wish women would just say, I don't want to make sense. What have you got two players now that don't want to make sense? What is this going to do for the locker room, right? And then the second, second, I won't even get to three. I'll get to two. And then you got to understand how is this going to play into the fan base, right? So now if I got, if I'm a dad or I'm a, or you're a mom and you're you're taking your daughter to watch WMBA basketball. Do I want to take my child to see a basketball game

where two young ladies are going to be intimate? Now, if I have a little girl that's interested in the sport of basketball, that's just the questions that are going to come with it. And I think that is going to have some say in how they handle it in the future. Because basketball is basketball. Like we're saying, your love life is your love life. But when the two come together, it is going to put people in that business. And it's going to be very interesting to see how the media handles that.

Okay. This is, I don't know how they broke up, so I don't know how to answer it. Like, was it cool breakup? Are we still friends? I don't know. You know, she may walk past the locker room. She may smack her an ass. Like, you want that old thing back, huh?

We don't know. you don't miss it so you don't miss me what's up big hat we don't know I don't know how they broke up and they've been on something one person is cool with it

one person isn't cool with it they both both may agree to say let's go out separate ways let's be friends they most they may they may might hate each other I don't know

I don't know this was all new to me but to answer the question I think that it makes this correct it was fair to ask the question and it was fair for Dallas to intervene on the question but now what that leads to is

speculation because the question still hasn't been answered and now what people are going to do is digging to their paths because somebody like me I'm not going to go do digging their paths I'm focused on them playing basketball but we can't get mad if we talk about

this in the next in the weeks and months to come because somebody else dug up their pass and be like well if you look at the game if we look at game to game two a season 2024 they was mad at each other

and if you see she wasn't past it we don't know this shit's gonna be dug up I think that she was open and she skipped past yeah all that that's gonna be available she didn't call a pick out now right yeah all that type of stuff we won't know and like

many says to me I don't know about it we may be wrong because I think it's more relationships with WMBA players with each other than we know about. Some are public, some aren't. But, you know, these are two young players. This will be Page Becker's second year

and AZ's first year. So we'll see how it goes and we'll keep an eye on it. I know one thing. We'll never get any information from Mo about it even though he's right in the house. He's right in, you, Cohn. I got to go back.

He actually could probably tell us more about this, but he won't. It's all good, Mom. I got to go back. We get it. We get it, Barr. Yeah, I saw some criticism saying that if women want to play professional sports and they want to get paid like the men, then they have to be able to be available to answer questions like the men do.

And sometimes a lot of male athletes are asked outlandish questions about their personal lives. So if they want the same equal treatment as men do in the sports arena, then they have to be open to answering these questions. And I think it was a completely legitimate question. I mean, ex-girlfriend playing on the same team is a very unique situation. So I don't see why the Dallas Wing shut it down. And they both were at Yukon. So this is kind of crazy.

They actually go back to like 16 years old. They have history from even back at 16. Known each other for a while. Yeah. Anything else? No? Okay. Well, Mo, thank you so much for joining.

It's always a pleasure seeing you having on the show. Thank you all by having me. I'll be watching by the time this comes out next week, or by the time this comes on, or by the time I come back next week, as a matter of fact, you know what, I'll be in studio next week. So by the time I come there,

there will be four people drafted in the first round Ohio State and not from Michigan. Okay, great. I have a question for you. Do you know the only school in the history of the United States to reach the national championship in both football and basketball? So y'all use about the end of the show?

Yeah. Yeah, it's Michigan. That's all the time that we have for today. Thank you so much for watching. And as always, it is what it is. All right, you have a good one. Bye, you too.