IT IS WHAT IT IS - ANTMAN SAID KEEP THEM BROOMS HIDDEN FOR ANOTHER TIME | S4 EP28

Episode Date: May 29, 2024

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It's a reunion, hello y'all Uh I was selling crack on a private jet, I've been to hell and back But no confusion, it's a reunion Hello y'all, welcome back Your murder here, he counting money He said, can't man, the hell we're at I'm only here to shit on niggas and piss on bitches

Welcome ass, I bought jewelry And bikes, nigga, black Benz's And white Vigas, now I'm out here And I'm looking for more chandeliers And light fixtures, nah I don't like niggas, what's wrong with me? I'm a high nigga, but this 44 Welcome back to It Is What It Is. This episode is sponsored by Underdog Fantasy. The app is an easy way to make some cash just by making picks on your favorite players.

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Murder, what up, man? Killer was good, man. I'm glad you're being consistent with your cowboy hat, man. Yeah, man. I'm glad you're consistent about it. Yeah, it's mad. I'm a maverick. It's very rare that you're consistent with anything, so I'm glad that you're keeping the consistency.

Yee-hoo! I'm very glad to see that, man. Just letting you know Before the show start up He said Share man What's going on Cause Harlem niggas

Switch up on niggas quick That's what he said God I'm just telling you He said You know Harlem niggas Switch up on you quick

So I'm happy to see That you have your hat on man Yeah I'm a maverick You know Good man Good I'm happy to hearick, you know? Good, man. Good.

I'm happy to hear that, bro. It's great. We like the Cowboy hat and we peep it. It is what it is. Shirts. Yeah, I came support Maurice today, man.

Make sure y'all go to his website and buy the shirts. The shirts is dope, man. Bye. Okay, so the Timberwolves avoided elimination beating the Mavs

105 to 100. How did you guys feel about the Timberwolves avoided elimination beating the Mavs 105 to 100. How did you guys feel about the Timberwolves win? Mace, got to ask you first. You got the Mavs hat still on. How are we feeling? I got the what hat? Mavs hat. This is a Maverick hat.

This is not a cowboy hat. It's a different. Okay, my fault. What's the difference? I don't know. I'm just asking because I don't know. I'm just asking because I don't know. I'm not trying to be smart or nothing. There's a buckle on the hat.

But what's the difference between a cowboy and a maverick hat? I don't know. I'm not even being funny. You got extensive vocabulary. I'm trying to learn something. What does that mean? There's a buckle on the hat. You see what I'm saying?

So a buckle makes it a maverick? Okay. Just learning. I'm learning. That's it. Just trying to learn. You got to laugh at yourself. I'm glad you are, man.

Oh, man. What you say is that? Nigga spun his song. Nigga dizzy. How are you feeling about the Timberwolves win? I had to ask you first because you have the Mavs hat on. Okay, yeah. Now you're staying corrected.

I mean, I thought they would win. I'd like to simplify everything. If Kyrie is not playing great, then they probably thought they would win. I like to simplify everything. If Kyrie is not playing great, then they probably could get a win. But when Kyrie is playing better, they're not going to get this win. I thought this was a game they should have been able to close out. You got Ant-Man, Paws, he shows up in rare form. But Luke, I still look like he was still Luke. God, all they needed was Kyrie to show up just a little bit more, man.

And you can't win with Kyrie getting 16 points. I remember one time earlier in the, in the playoff series, Kyrie had, I think like 12 and games like that. They're not going to win. So Kyrie, if you're watching this, you got to get over 20 for y'all to win. You, it gotta be 22 and higher for y'all to win. So Kyrie, if you're watching this, you got to get over 20 for y'all to win. It got to be 22 and higher for y'all to win. So your team is not like that where you can win without you getting 22. Ant-Man kind of like took over the game, I mean, to be clear. And they wasn't supposed to

get that game in Dallas. That's the place. Now that they won 3-1, they might try to get 3-2, and once it becomes 3-2, it's a different series. But I wore the hat again to tell Killa I'm staying strong. You know, I'm going with the Mavericks. They're saying before the show started, you said, Harlem niggas, switch up on niggas quick. That was your exact verbatim wording before the show started, you said Harlem niggas switch up on niggas quickly. That was your exact, that was your exact verbatim wording

before the show started. This is what he said. I'm telling you, share what he said. To be honest with you, my opinion of this game, it's kind of a mirror of all the games

that happened so far. These games have been really close. Last game, the score didn't really reflect. Not talking about last night. I'm have been really close. Last game, the score didn't really reflect. Not talking about last night. I'm talking about game three. The score didn't really reflect

on how the game was because it looked like they won by nine or ten points, which I believe it was. But these games have been really close. And it's just Dallas has been coming out on top tonight. Minnesota came out on top. And I totally agree with Mace. Kyrie Irving,

my personal opinion, he is so thirsty for us to get the ball. Like, you've seen it. Uncharacteristic turnovers. Didn't shoot the ball particularly well. I mean, in the first two, three minutes, he had two turnovers and then at the

end of the game, he had a costly turnover. 16 points is not going to cut it. But I really i seen you know it was it wasn't because of lack of effort this dude probably was drooling to say i pause i gotta get to boston i gotta get to back that's what that's that's when i'm back i can't wait and i think he was trying to do too much too early and it kind of reflected. Luka played really good. Had another triple-double, six triple-double of the postseason. But

Lively wasn't playing. That was important. P.J. Washington didn't shoot the ball well at all. And Amon had a decent night. Still less than 50% from the field, but he hit some clutch shots. But Carl Anthony Towns is the one who kind of won this game.

20 points in the second half. Hit some threes that he's really been struggling from the three-point range. Hit some timely threes tonight. A lot of stupid fouls on Minnesota, Perry, throughout the whole game. Cat ended up fouling out, but he had like three dumb fouls in Minnesota period throughout the whole game. Cat ended up fouling out, but he had like three dumb fouls in the beginning of the game. Anthony Edwards

is in foul trouble. Rudy Gobert is in foul trouble, and they still end up putting it off. Naj Reed, you can't say enough about him. Undrafted sixth man of the year. Key player. Also, a key basket when they was up three. They called an out-of-bounds play to put them up five.

But I think this series has been, that game has been a reflection of this whole series. But I think the key was kind of what Mace was saying. Kyrie has to do better, but I understand what happened. He was looking ahead of last night thinking I gotta get to Boston Garden because my personal opinion is as much as people love playing at home me personally when I

played ball I really used to like playing on the road better than at home because I used to love it's nothing more exciting to me as a basketball player when you shut a whole arena or gym or whatever venue you're playing, shutting them the fuck up.

I used to hit key shots and just look at the crowd like they stupid because they would boo you, yell when you make a foul shot, so on and so forth. So I know people love playing at home, but I know Kyrie wants to go to Boston and show them people a thing or two, but you got to close out. Me, personally, I'm kind of happy.

Now, I want Dallas to win this series, but I'm kind of happy that they didn't win last night. I hope they don't win Thursday, to be totally honest with you. I hope it at least comes back to be six games because the championship doesn't start till June 6th. And that means if they were the one last night, we would have 10, 9, 10 days without basketball talking about what's about to happen and a bunch of other shit. So at least we got some basketball Thursday minimum until June 6th.

Yeah, and I agree with you, but I think the longer this series goes The more it changes Like if it gets to 3-2 and they won Definitively then that Tide begins to change Because this is a team that Is dangerous This is a team that is dangerous if they're confident

So I hope Dallas get them out of their next game I just want to see more basketball. I don't have a dog in the fight. If anything, it's because of Sham. Okay. I think Cat made a significant impact in this game. He especially did a lot better in the second half. He was four for five from the three,

which is really good from a big man. And I think it also shows us how much of an impact Derek Lively makes for the Mavs because him being out due to his injury showed like, OK, what are we what is that missing piece there? He kind of is that missing piece. And he wasn't there. Now they lose this game.

And Luka and Kyrie were 13 for 39 combined. Don't want to see that type of performance from those two players. So basically, in a postgame interview, Luka ended up saying the game was on him. He felt like he didn't give enough energy. But I want to ask you guys, do you guys feel like that was coming from Luka

or do you guys still kind of feel like Kyrie needs to be the one to step it up a little bit? Yeah, I still think it's Kyrie. I mean, hands down. Luka said what he's supposed

to say as the leader of the team, my personal opinion. But can't get mad at the triple-double. He didn't shoot the ball well at all. Shot the ball probably 33% if I'm not mistaken. And that still isn't good.

He had a key three-point if it goes towards the end. But Kyrie is the one who had a poor game, but Luka also could play better. And that's what a team leader is about, taking accountability, putting the onus on itself. That's Coach Richford. When are you going to take the onus?

Putting the onus on himself. But I like that as a leader. There's no excuses. He didn't say, well, we didn't have Lively. He didn't say Kyrie didn't play good. He didn't say PJ Washington shot poorly. He said, this is totally on me.

I wasn't energetic enough and this is my responsibility and I respect that as the leader of that team. Great point. And this is my responsibility. And I respect that as the leader of that team. Great point. And then Luca was visibly frustrated as the game went on. So hopefully they figure that out. But game five will be on Thursday. Looking ahead, what do the Mavs need? The Mavs need, in order to win game five, they got to get 25 from Kyrie. They got to get a 30 from Luca

and Lively got to be suited up. I wouldn't be surprised if they even bring back Tim Hardaway. He didn't play. He hasn't been really playing. So they probably could find nine points from him or six points, two threes

unexpectedly somewhere and make the difference. I'm going with the Mavs in five. I'm going to go with Minnesota next game and I think the Mavs will wrap it up in six. The actual question was what's that, Sana? What do you

think the Mavs need heading into game five? Look, the Mavs just didn't shoot good last night. All these games have been the same game. It's been close. It's just that, like I said, Dallas has been coming out on top. I think that makes some good points. I don't know about Tim Hardaway getting it,

but Lively is going to get back, and he definitely is a difference maker. Even last night, Gafford, he shot 100% from the field. He was 6-for-6, which was amazing. You don't get 100% from the field all the time from your big man.

But for them to win, Kyrie has to play better. He has to play better. I know that he wants to win bad and go to Boston, but let's think about this. Kyrie, to play better. He has to play better. I know that he wants to win bad and go to Boston, but let's think about this. Kyrie, before last night, was 14-0 in his career in closeout games. 14-0.

He never lost a closeout game ever until last night. So throughout his career, him never losing a closeout game to showing that last night the way he played, he just wanted it to me, me watching the game. He wanted it too bad because that's very, very uncharacteristic of him

to not close out in a closeout game when you're 14-0 throughout your career. Now he's 14-1 and he has another opportunity on Thursday. But it's nothing but shooting well. You ought to think about this and I don't know if 25 is going to cut it.

When they're winning these games, Kyrie and Luka is going for more than 60 combined. You know, 30, 33, 31, 34. These guys are going for 60 points combined and that just didn't happen last night. So calm down, relax, control what you can control as far as Luka and Kyrie.

Get Lively back. Gafford, I can't say enough about him. He's been playing outstanding. And when it comes to Gafford and Lively joining the Mavericks, we have to give a lot of credit to the GM of the Mavericks because these pieces were key

after the cutoff date for the trade because it seems like they fit perfectly. And they got a well-rounded team. I didn't realize it was that good until I seen them play against Denver. I know they was playing good leading into the playoffs. But when I seen them against Denver, I said, you got Kyrie and you got Luka, which is great. But the pieces around them are tremendous as well.

So I just think they need to relax, calm down, and don't overlook the situation before them. And then moving along, but kind of in the same field. So this has been like a trending discussion. Do you guys think Rudy Gobert is deserving of his defensive player of the year award? People are saying his playoff performance is making them second. Yes, that. But what do you guys think? I mean, he just had 13 and 10, so he's definitely contributing. It's just he's having highlighted moments where offensive geniuses are exploiting

him. So that's the way I look at it. It's not happening with everybody. It's happening with people that actually have expertise of what they're doing. I mean, one time you got him at the key, gone Kyrie. He shouldn't be out there on Kyrie. That's a bad switch. That's whenever that switch happens, you got to switch back. You don't stand out there. I know a lot of big men think they can guard guards and they think I'm about to show my footwork. Well, actually, you did not do that. Actually, it made you look crazy. So I think he's still deserving at this point of the title that he has. Just got to use it where it goes and not try to do it on defensive,

on guards, especially Kyrie. Find somebody else to play with. You could say that again. I haven't paid Rudy Gobert mine throughout the whole year as far as defense is concerned. I was keeping an eye on Minnesota,

but as far as his defensive prowess of play throughout the year, I can't answer that. And a lot of people get confused when the playoffs come that these are regular season awards. These aren't playoff awards. Mace made a great point. When you're guarding Luka or guarding Kyrie, it doesn't work. But to Rudy Gobert's credit

We're in the NBA now To where And I'm not accusing Well it is what it is Luke or Kyrie Or Jamal Murray Or Shea Gildress Or

Any guard for that matter We They Everybody now Just sets pick To get the matchup they want to get. That's all they do. You keep sending the pick till you get the matchup you want to get.

So a lot of times it's not, to me, Rudy Gobert's fault that he's looking crazy guarding guards. The guards are waiting to get the pick to let Rudy guard them. So pick you to death, and even if you fight through the pick, they'll send another pick. Then they'll send another pick. They'll be like, finally, he didn't get the guy to fight through the pick. Now I got him.

So I don't really think this is Rudy Gobert's fault. We're in the NBA and it's just not this series. It's been throughout the year, in the last few years, that people have just set the pick. I'm talking about guards in particular to get the matchup that they want. And I'm not knocking it.

It's smart. Me, I wanted to bust a nigga ass to play my position for us. That was me, me personally. I didn't need a bunch of picks. I used to, I wanted them wave a pick away ass niggas. I waved a pick away.

I'm not really with that. I waved a pick away, ice cream, and I go finish my breakfast. That's what I do. These niggas just want to pick and roll, pick and roll, not even roll, just set picks. So they get a big man on them. So then they make the niggas look stupid. And then you sit there and be like, Rudy Gobert doesn't look good. He's not just picking up Kyrie full quarter, three quarter, quarter, half court. He's just not picking up Luka at the key. These are switches.

These are niggas. This is the matchup that they want and I think it's smart. But I'm not going to judge Rudy Gobert because niggas is picking on the Duff

and now he has to guard the guards. This wasn't a matchup that he asked for or wants. And then do you agree with that as well? What?

Basically, like, that's not the matchup that he wants Rudy Gobert to be up on Kyrie like that. Yeah, exactly. I think they could do, I think exactly what Cam said. They should be able to get a basket against the guy at their position. It shouldn't take three pick and screen and roll,

pick and roll, back screen, all of that. It's like, bro, you play point, he's on point. Get a basket, you know? Okay, there we go. And then Hall of Famer and sportscaster Bill Walton passed away on Monday due to cancer. We give our condolences to his family and friends but what words do you guys have after hearing that he passed um bill bill walton was one of those guys i think he was really um he had a lot of a lot of character to commentate and i remember before him it was kind of boring watching people um on tv it was a few guys that were kind of entertaining, but he started that whole genre of people having great personality. I remember, I forgot the guy's name, but he

was really good at commentating that used to always interview Ali and then, you know, you Ali and then you know Corsell or something like that Howard Corsell Howard Corsell yeah and then and then you know Bill Walton is like one of those guys that I remember him Dick Vatel different people that really like brought that comment brought fun to commentating you know I'm saying so that's kind of like even even when I started doing this with Kim, I wanted to bring that kind of like, you know, fun to it, not just journalism and being boring about it, but actually bring some fun to it. So that's one of my greatest memories of him. Also with my dad watching me, I mean, helping me to watch basketball at an early age, being able to watch, you know,

just him play with Boston and stuff like that. I hated Boston. I hated Boston ever since I was a kid, watching Boston. And I remember him getting a six-man award and all of that. So those are kind of my memories. So he definitely was a fixture in basketball, first ballot Hall of Fame, was on the 50th anniversary team, 75th anniversary team. So he's definitely one of those guys. So shout out to Bill Walton and rest in peace to Bill Walton and major props to the whole Walton family. There are Peter Bill Walton, very colorful commentator, charismatic, different, outgoing, hippie-like.

And I think that he was a really great commentator. But a lot of people, because even I'm so young to know his basketball career, a lot of people say out of the best college basketball players ever, it's one or two between him and Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, which was Luau Cinder at the particular time. It goes underrated because I was probably one or two, one years old, if that, when he got Portland Trailblazers their championship in 1977. So then he goes to Boston and Larry Bird said that was his idol growing up. That's a lot coming from Larry Bird,

because Larry Bird don't even like to give white guys props, let alone any race. So our Peter Bill Walton, our condolences to the Walton family, and God bless. Definitely will be missed. Yeah. That's crazy. He was three times the Naismith Player of the Year in college. That's crazy.

Because we be thinking niggas have a great career if they get it once, if they get that award once. So to get that three out of the four years is spectacular. three out of the four years is spectacular. And then before we go to break, Sexy Red made an appearance on WWE Next. She came out keeping the guys motivated, presenting the awards and stuff. But how do you guys feel in general of the integration of hip hop in sports

on larger scales and Sexy Red's appearance? That's crazy, but I could see her doing it. I didn't see it yet, but I started laughing just thinking of the imagery of it. Definitely, she's not still pregnant, right? No. Yeah, I would have liked to see her fight a little bit, though. You know, she is Sexy Red.

I mean, she could throw a few punches, as long as she don't get clotheslined. She might have a career in WWE. She could sell it. I think this is very marketable, smart on WWE, smart on a lot of these corporations that get hip-hop involved in anything else. As great as a career that Floyd Mayweather had, a lot of his crossover success to me is when he was on WWE, when he was on Dancing

with the Stars. And these type of moves take you over the top outside of what you're doing because you create another audience that you didn't usually have. So I think it's very smart on WWE's part. And she's not the first hip-hop artist that's been there. I've seen Snoop jump off the top rope one year. You know what I'm saying?

And that's the people off the top of my head that I can think about. But, I don't know. Would you do it, Cam? At one time, I would.

But, yeah, I would definitely do it because it gives you an audience that you don't have right now. And like I said, as much as Floyd is the superstar that he is, WWE and Dancing with the Stars put him somewhere else, in my overall opinion. I'm not saying that his boxing career wasn't phenomenal. I'm not saying that he was a marketing genius fighting Conor McGregor after he fought Oscar De La Hoya.

He fought everybody from out the country to get the pay-per-view numbers that's out the country. But I think this put him in a different light when I think he snuffed a nigga, a clothesline nigga, whatever. I forgot what he did, but I was like, his fan base is going to go up after this. But I think that these corporations are really smart. Think about it. As soon as black people start eating healthy, what do they do? They're offsetting Cardi B, McDonald's, man.

You know? Niggas want to start drinking green juice. Go get Megan Thee Stallion and give our own sauce at Popeye's. You know? it's a bunch of that shit Fat Joe had his own hamburger

at White Castle's for a minute fuck you mean they want to be healthy corporations see our dollar matters and be like

can't let these niggas go vegan yeah niggas going to the juice bar too much yeah exactly so yeah so they go and grab the people that they think these niggas go vegan. Yeah, these niggas going to the juice bar too much. Yeah, exactly. I got something for them.

Yeah, so they go and grab the people that they think minorities or black or brown people attract to and try and bring you back over there because they'll be like, when you get to McDonald's, you'll say, let's try the Cardi B and Offset meal. Oh, Megan Thee Stallion got her own sauce. Maybe if I dip my fingers in the Megan Thee Stallion got her own source maybe if I dip my

fingers in in uh the Megan Thee Stallion source females I'm talking about I could get Meganese I don't fucking know

these niggas are smart though and try and get the people to come back so to me that's what it's about trying to bring your fan base over to

something like WWE when it pertains to sexy right but I think it's great for her as well because now you have fans who will be like, well, why is she trying?

If they're not familiar with her, like, well, let me Google her. Let me see what's going on with her to the fact that Vix McMahon or whoever's running the WWE now wants her to be involved. You asked Cam about the WWE,

but would you do it? Yeah, you see my outfit. I'm suited about the WWE, but would you do it? Yeah, you see my outfit? I'm suited for the WWE right now. What would be my wrestling name with this outfit? Huh? The Maverick. Hey, uh... To me, I mean, if I get in a little bit, I would do WWE. First of all, wrestling's fake. to me

I mean if I get in a little bit shit I would do WWE first of all wrestling is fake I was ready to fight a nigga for real

I was ready to fight Bernard because why wouldn't I risk a fake fight but uh yeah it's smart to me

I mean to me it's not really gonna get hurt you could get hurt yeah but yeah they don't But they don't put them niggas in that position.

I'm going to get the bell and the chair on the nigga. Pause. Yeah. Well, look. I don't know if people remember and I don't know exactly what happened,

but I remember when Ronda Rousey was at the top of the chain on UFC. Yeah. Nigga, and that girl kicked out the league, literally, when she lost the fight, when she got kicked in the face. Right, Holly Holmes.

And then she was in the WWE for a minute, too. I don't know what happened, but it was like, maybe the WWE is more your lane. But it wasn't real fighting. I don't know if that's why she left or why we haven't seen her. But we haven't really seen her in a long time. But she went to the wwe for a minute yeah and she started doing movies as a tough girl and it just wasn't believable when she started trying to be tough he's like no i don't believe it no more

okay well shout out sexy red and then in the comments let us know what you guys think their wrestling names would be because i'm curious on what you guys would think up. But we're going to go to break. When we return, we will talk about Isaiah Thomas. Don't go anywhere. She call this thing about toxic Four years and counting Got you feeling like an option Maybe I'm her own problem, babe She tired of hearing, I don't know. My stubborn in me won't fall. Dealing with this thing called trust. But she really thinking about wanting to be free.

Why am I in this one? Welcome back. Now let's get into our underdog fantasy picks of the day. So tonight we're going to do WNBA. Tonight, the New York Liberty will play the Phoenix Mercury. Underdog fantasy has Breonna Stewart at 21 and a half points. Do you have her higher or lower, Mace? Breonna Stewart got to have more than that. Yeah, higher.

Okay. I'm going to go higher too. Okay. Sabrina Ionescu is at four first quarter points. Do you have her higher or lower, Cam? Lower. Lower. Okay, and Diana Taurasi is at four and a half rebounds. Do you have her higher or lower pace?

She's probably right at four or five. I'm going to go higher. I'm going to go lower, but I do want to shout her out for still being, playing at a top level at 41 years old is truly amazing. So shout out to Diana

just for doing an amazing job of staying in shape, competing, and out there every night in the WNBA doing your thing. Facts. Okay. Download the Underdog Fantasy app and you can make your picks too. And if you're not tapped into the WNBA, make sure you tune in tonight. It's going to be a real good game. Okay. So Isaiah Thomas says, a little kid pulled out a gun on him and his friends in Washington

over the weekend. He said, if it wasn't for who I was and him recognizing me in my own city, we probably would have ended all of our lives. So what do you guys think of the incident and the little kid walking around with the gun to begin with? I think that's just the time, the time that we're in that's sad. the time that we're in that's sad, but children with guns are dangerous, even more dangerous because a lot of times when kids have guns, they're thinking about how easy they can get out of jail.

They could be tried as kids, and there's so many advantages for them that wouldn't wouldn't be there if they were older and they did that same thing so this is a lot of times why people put guns in their hands it shouldn't be that way but that's what happens and i'm very happy that nothing happened to isaiah thomas because that that could have went a lot of ways and a lot of bad ways. So to think that a person only did not pull the trigger because of his celebrity is something that also could have went both ways. Sometimes the jealousy and the rage that's in a person's heart can make them want to hurt you because of who you are.

So I'm just thankful that things went really well for him and the person he was with. But I would love to hear the backstory about where were they, when it happened and all that type of stuff. Cause that, that matters as well. How old, how old was the kid? I think he was,

let me check. About? Probably like 11. Well, my opinion is shit ain't nothing new. Been pulling out pistols on niggas. Right, you got out of there, man. Yeah. You just talking about man murders,

just talking about niggas pulling out pistols. They pulled a pistol on me too. They pulled out a pistol on me and Lou Williams. Lou Williams, my Jedi mind trick, the nigga. Nigga said, you going to rob me, nigga? I got to give you a job. Nigga said, word? Nigga said, bet.

Fuck it. Frank White, the nigga. You know, in seriousness, I'm very, very happy that he didn't get hurt or anything like that, but it's probably worse than when we're growing up because you have society, you're going internet, you see kids with guns, you see them rather brandishing them, rather shooting them. Internet is a free fall. Yeah.

And when you create opportunities, and I don't know these kids' situations that pulled out these guns on Isaiah Thomas, but a lot of times when, and I'm not going to say kids don't get bored and do dumb shit. That's why I was wondering exactly how old he was. Because if he's a 17-year-old or a 16-year-old or 18-year-old, they might not have nothing else to do. It's a lack of opportunity in certain cities across America.

It's no outlet. It's no future. There's no future. There's no, I'm on the way to do something. Yeah, no hope. Exactly. And if you don't put kids in a situation to try and figure out their future, this is kind of what happens. Like I said, I'm glad he's safe.

I'm glad nothing happened. I'm glad his face card worked for him. But at the end of the day, that's kind of the cycle that we in. Yeah. This is kind of why, you know, rich people got to do more, honestly, because the same person you could give a job to could be the person trying to take your life. So it's interesting in that way, you know? So I'm thinking about that and thinking about what does this kid do to everybody

else that's not Isaiah Thomas, you know? You got to think about that too. But kids having guns is not new. It's not new to any of us on this platform. I don't think we're surprised by that at all. And just real quick, according to the report, I don't have the age, but he says an AK-47 was pulled on him by the kid. Oh, damn. Yeah, that's crazy. So the kid was sent then. If he pulled it on him, he was sent.

And he should know that. He from out there, he know what's going on. If an AK, where does a kid get an AK-47 for? Somebody that put it in his hand and told him go get right. Okay. Yo,

jingles, get control of that shit out there, man. Okay. And then Jalen Brown wins Eastern Conference Finals MVP after sweeping the Pacers. What do you guys think of Jalen Brown winning the award? Well, I'm happy for him winning. I mean, this supports the narrative that I kind of been talking about this entire postseason.

that I kind of been talking about this entire postseason. And I think I recall him saying something online about how he never wins anything. That's what he said. He never wins anything. So I'm glad that this is a turnaround for him and hopefully bring that same energy to the finals because they're going to need it, especially if they play Dallas. This is going to be an exciting series because they both hate each other. They both, I mean, they hate what Kyrie did.

Kyrie hate what they did. And hopefully Kyrie makes it there. We're looking forward to that. And I'm excited that he won that award. And hopefully he'll try to win the MVP of the finals. Yeah, Mace definitely been saying this about Jalen Brown. I think he had an outstanding playoffs.

He was very well deserving of the award, even last night when I'm seeing when I'm seeing they're showing a preview for the finals and they have the picture of the Boston Celtics, it's his face now.

It's not Tatum's face. They showed his face, actually. So we'll see what happens in the next series, but I think he was very well deserving of the award. Mace has definitely been pushing this narrative throughout the playoffs. Does Tatum like it? I don't know.

We'll see. But is that going to make them win? That's what it's really about. What's the recipe for them to win a championship? Because I tell you this much, if they don't win a championship this season, it's going to be a lot of eyes looked at them. You have everything lined up for you guys

to win a championship. And what a lot of people aren't talking about as well with Boston is they got an ace card in the cut because we're not even talking about Porzingis is healthy enough to play.

He was ready after game two with the Pacers, but they didn't need to rush him back because they were beating the Pacers. They were sweeping the Pacers. So you got a healthy Porzingis.

He has another week of rest. This is the year for Boston to get this done. You got Al Hoffer playing great. Derek White playing great. Drew Holiday playing exceptionally well. Jalen Brown doing well. Jason Tatum playing well. He actually, you know, as much as Jalen Brown definitely deserved

that award 100%. Jason Tatum had a decent series as well. And you got poor Zingas in the cut waiting. This is no excuse for Austin at all. This is the year for y'all to get it done or there's going to be a lot of eyes on you guys. Which is saying,

not saying it isn't now, but Jason Tatum is going to be the highest paid NBA player ever this offseason. So you got two guys who's going to be close to $700 million in your salary cap in the next few years. And not to produce a championship when you're almost spending close to a billion dollars on two players.

I'm going to have a problem with that if I'm the ownership of the GM. We need to figure it out. You meant almost a billion dollars. I said a million? Yeah, that's what I meant. I meant a billion. My bad. We need to figure it out. You meant almost a billion dollars. I said a million? Yeah, that's what I meant. I meant a billion. My bad. Yeah, absolutely.

For me, close to a billion dollars. My bad. So are we ready to say that Porzingis is playing, Boston is foregoing the champions? I say they should be, but to me,

Boston, and I talked about this a couple weeks ago when last year me and Kevin Durant was going down. He to me, Boston, and I talked about this a couple weeks ago when last year me and Kevin Durant was going down. He's like, Boston going when I said it's just something about them. I don't know. Kind of like the Knicks. The Knicks may have

all the key pieces. Something will go wrong. It will be something jinxed about this. Right, but to me I don't feel that jinx this season. I don't like, last year I knew it. This year I don't really feel like the jinx this season. I don't like, last year I knew it. This year I don't really feel like the jinx is in. But...

Yeah, remember Tatum got hurt the first game of the finals. Right. So I don't, I'm not sure. I'm going to be honest with you. I'm totally not sure. Last year they didn't even go to the final.

I'm not sure. And what I will say is this, that you had two years with this coach. And I do blame a lot on coaching, not bad coaching. I'm saying switching coaches up. You can't get any chemistry. So LeBron and D-Wade

and Chris Bosh, it took them a couple years. LeBron, when he went back to Cleveland with Kyrie and Kevin Love, it took them a couple years. LeBron, when he went back to Cleveland with Kyrie and Kevin Love, it took them a couple years. Only people that I've seen do it the very first year when they came together and the coach and the system was already in play, though,

was when Ray Allen and Kevin Garnett got to Boston, but you already had Doc Rivers and you already had Paul Pierce there. And Rondo. Yeah, and Rondo was new as well. He's a rookie. But I really believe chemistry matters. And this is you guys' second year together with Missoula,

so we'll see what happens. Do you think, like, another question is, if they were to lose, do you keep the coach? Because he did go further than last year. I think you keep him. I think when you keep changing coaches up, that just sets you back. Unless your superstar player doesn't like him. You know?

Yeah, I agree with that. A source told me that the reason why Cleveland coaches go on because Donovan Mitchell doesn't like it. And that may be a play to get Donovan Mitchell to stay in Cleveland because Donovan Mitchell, just like we was talking about, you're injured, but every time your team scored in the playoffs, you're jumping off the bench, coming to give them high fives, so on and so forth.

jumping off the bench, coming to give them high fives, so on and so forth. You got a coach with the Milwaukee Bucks, way over 500, fired him middle of the season and give the job to Doc Rivers, a notable name, so to speak.

So when your superstar player doesn't like you, that's one thing. But I don't hear anybody complaining about the coach or I don't hear any disruption or friction about the coach or I don't hear any disruption of or friction about the coach and I was listening to uh they were talking about the Dallas Mavericks and how Jason Kidd

coaches Luca and Kyrie and his approach as opposed to maybe Rick Carlisle's approach and maybe that's why he's not in Dallas, to where he said, they said that they don't, Jason Kidd doesn't necessarily tell Kyrie and Luka what to do. He tells them what he would do. And that way they feel like they're not being overcoached with two people that are so good,

but they respect them because they say they've seen all his highlight tapes. They've seen his Hall of Fame career. They've seen what he did his one-year college, even leading up to college, and they have a respect for him because you got to think about this. You got a point guard, a Hall of Fame point guard

coaching two future Hall of Fame point guards. So instead of being overbearing and saying, do this or do this or do this, this is what I would do. You can figure it out when you get on the court. But if, you know, set the screen. Yeah, you see something else. Yeah, exactly.

So I think, not saying that always works, but right now it is. That's actually a good concept. Right. And Jason, and for me, Jason Kidd's going to get an extension on his contract coming up, which he already did, if I'm not mistaken. He got the extension. And the Clippers are in the process of extending Ty Lue's contract. And that's because niggas like the Lakers talk about they want Ty Lue or Jason Kidd while they already signed. Niggas is like, yo, re-sign these niggas, man.

The fuck is the Lakers talking about? They want niggas we already signed. Niggas is like, yo, re-sign these niggas, man. The fuck is they talking, the Lakers talking about they want niggas we already got. Yo, re-up Mark Cuban. See, that's why you gotta love

Mark Cuban. Niggas, who's the Lakers that's interested in Jason Kidd? On a Tuesday, contract done Thursday night. We ain't got time

to play with niggas. Like a man, but I do think that's a great concept because it feels like the coach trusts you and then you trust your coach on his judgment as well. Yeah, I think they set that up. And they was like, yo, tell him

we about to bring you to the Lakers. We going to get both of y'all to Max Dill right now. Right, exactly. Exactly. Okay, so apparently after news of Mike Tyson's health scare, Ryan Garcia decided to jump in and message Jake Paul saying that he would fill in for Mike Tyson's spot. Gotta ask y'all, is that a fight that y'all would even want to see?

Jake Paul versus Ryan Garcia or no? His trolling, his work is that it made it to your email. Yeah, you know Ryan is trolling is working, Statt. It made it to your email. Yeah, you know Ryan is trolling, talk about. Can he even fight right now? Isn't he supposed to be banned? He's not banned from exhibition? As of right now, no. Don't have an update on that.

Yes, I mean, you going to walk him out, Statt? Oh, no. No, no, no. I, I mean, you going to walk him out, Stat? Oh, no. No, no, no. I'm not playing into that. I really wanted to see Mike and Jake Paul fight, though. Are they still going to fight? As of right now, yes. They're saying it was like the ulcer, so he's in good health.

Yeah, I hope they're not setting this up so Mike don't have to fight, man, because I'm really looking forward to this. This is the first time there man, because I'm really looking forward to this. This is the first time there's an exhibition I'm really looking forward to. I'm looking forward to see this more than Roy Jones versus Mike Tyson. To be totally honest with you, I would rather see Ryan against Jake Paul, my personal opinion, because I don't think it'd be an exhibition fight. Jake Paul has yet to fight a boxer. Knocking out basketball players, UFC

niggas, cooks, chefs, librarians, bus drivers. Mike Tyson's 58 years old. I'm not saying Mike Tyson isn't in phenomenal shape for a 58-year-old. I'm not saying Mike Tyson will lose this fight. You're fighting somebody around your own age

who's a legitimate boxer, who has a great left hook, who cheats sometimes, I guess. But I think that, to me, that would be a more realistic fight. He's a cheater.

You know you don't cheat all the time. Because he ain't get caught all the time, so I can't accuse him for when he don't get caught. I got to go when he get caught. Now, if niggas don't catch him, you can't accuse him. But I'm going to go with sometime, because if you got caught last time, the reason I say sometime is because

out of the 24, 25 fights that he had, I know at least six times he cheated, but you just missed five. I'm going to go with that. So that's just my opinion. But realistically, I would rather see that fight than the Mike Tyson fight, just as a boxing fan. As an entertainment point of view, Mike Tyson, of course. Hell yeah, we want to see what happens. See if Mike still got it.

You know, people that's our age, older, or maybe a little younger, still wants to see Mike knocking a nigga out. Still craving for that. It's 30 years to just crave to see Mike Tyson pause and knock somebody out. But as a boxing fan, a realistic fight,

I would love to see that fight, Ryan, against Jake Paul. Yeah, it'll be troll versus troll. Right. And it'll be a good fight. to me, that wouldn't even be an exhibition.

That should be a legitimate boxing match. Jake Paul would hurt Ryan, killer. Who else Jake Paul beat that's a boxer, that's a real boxer. I'm talking about amateur background.

I'm talking about 24 fights. We have to realize as much as we call Ryan a TikToker, a YouTuber, an Instagrammer, or whatever, he has 24 professional fights with 25 professional fights, one loss with 20 knockouts. And then it wasn't. Yeah, that's true. It wasn't like it's some UFC niggas.

Yeah, it was sleeping niggas. Yeah, and it wasn't, and it's not Nate Robinson. You know what I'm saying? Like, it's real boxes he's fought. And even when we was leading up to the Devin fight before, whatever the outcome is, you know, whatever the steroids Devin fight before, whatever the outcome is, you know, whatever the steroids and the no steroids, whatever the outcome is,

you have to realize in the amateurs, they fought three times and it's three and three. So it isn't like he doesn't have a boxing background career. So I'm not going to say Jake Paul will win that fight easily. Even if you look at Jake Paul, pardon me, Ryan Garcia against Tank as opposed to, and I know he came in overweight against Devin, but if you look

at him against Tank brilliant, brilliant move again on Floyd Mayweather's part, brilliant no rehydration causing it, nigga looked like a skeleton because he couldn't eat afterwards, he couldn't go back and gain another 15, 20 pounds

when he fought Tank. And that goes to show the mind of Floyd Mayweather when it comes to boxing. But outside of Tank, the man never lost. And who hasn't, who Tank hasn't beat.

Tank is undefeated. So to me, I don't know if that's an easy win for Jake Paul. Just my opinion. So I know you said you would like to see Ryan Garcia versus Jake Paul and you not so much but hypothetically speaking if Mike Tyson isn't able to fight what do you think should happen for the fight put put Ryan in there pause let Ryan figure it out but I I said Ryan Ryan said he will fight him so he probably

would show up for it right now he got the momentum but i think you know 170 is is totally different when somebody shows up 230 you know but he'll figure it out yeah that's a great point too the weight the weight does matter and the punches do matter. But I'm just trying to figure out. I'll have to, you know, I think Jake Paul is great marketing. I think he's smart. I think he's figured out how to make money for himself. And a lot of boxers probably envy that.

You know, I remember I seen a lot of boxers complaining when Conor McGregor sat there made a hundred mil like damn this nigga first boxing match he made a hundred mil niggas been boxing their whole life

yeah I remember A.B. said something about that A.B. said let me get that hundred yeah you feel me P you know what I mean

so motherfucking when you sit there you've been boxing your whole life and a nigga come get this first boxing match and grab a hundo. You've been in the YMCA fighting. You've been around the chicken circle your whole life. That's annoying.

That's really annoying. And you can't get mad at people who know how to market and figure out and not take as big a risk and make the money because you can sit there and lie all you want. Nobody wants to get punched in their face for free. Okay. And then one more question before we wrap. So there's a lot of buzz around LeBron James and his next steps. Do you guys think LeBron would test free agency or do you think it's all just buzz? What are we thinking? Do you think it's all just buzz? What are we thinking? I think LeBron will test free agency if Bronny is not picked up by the Lakers.

And I think that's going to play a major role into what he's doing. There are already pitches floating around there with him, with Phoenix, him, Bradley, Bill, Katie. The pitch actually looked tough with Bronny in the middle as the point guard. You saw that picture? Yeah, I did. That picture looked crazy. I like that team too. Katie and LeBron with Book, with Bradley Bill.

Hey, I'm just telling you, if we're going with marketing like we was just talking about that's a good marketing but it will remind me of that team that the Lakers had when they had Gary Payton and Carl Malone

and everybody else and they still didn't win but I think he will test free agency I think he should because it'll let him know what's out there so you can gather all that information and make a king decision. I ain't going off no more pictures.

Motherfucking picture of Bradley Bill, Kevin Durant, and Book look good. I'm jacking no more pictures, man. Picture days is over. You know what I'm saying? It's a dub. Picture days is a dub, man. Yeah, you be like, what was that,

Jimmy Butler had Emo Day? Yeah, I ain't jacking no more pitchers. As far as LeBron touching free agency, who knows, man? LeBron, I think

it's hard to say, man. He's such a great businessman off the court and seems to make the right decisions wherever he goes. It may take him some time, but it's no franchise that he's been with

that he hasn't won a championship. So, it's hard to say. I think Bronny does play a lot into it, but I think even if LeBron doesn't play with Bronny immediately, he'll eventually play my personal opinion

is LeBron goes back to the Lakers for two years because he's going to get the max with the Lakers any other team that he goes to

he's not going to get a max deal because he's leaving the team let Bronny play two years and towards the end of his career

because LeBron doesn't look like he's going to be finished in the next year or two or maybe even three we'll see but I think he goes and gets as much money as he going to be finished in the next year or two, or maybe even three. We'll see. But I think he goes and gets as much money as he can with the Lakers

the next two years. See where Bronny's at in his career. If the Lakers don't pick up Bronny and make a decision for there as far as where Bronny's concerned. But that's my opinion. I think he's trolling and he's going back to the Lakers because that's where you're going to get the max dollar at. Yeah, and there's also reports out there that Bronny is not working out for all of the teams.

So he only worked out for the Lakers and the Suns. Yeah, the thing about it is it's not your choice though. You get picked, you go where they tell you to go. You can work out for who you want to work out for. If Portland wants you and you're up next. You go to Portland. That's just the way it is. I remember Ricky Rubio got drafted by the Timberwolves

years and years ago. He's trying not to go. He said, I'll stay in Spain and whoever he at, man, if they just trying to send me over there,

I ain't coming. It's like, look, look, Rick, you can go back to Spain. It don't matter when you come back. We have your rights.

You're going back You're going to the Timberwolves. So you can go back to Spain. It don't matter when you come back. We have your rights. You're going back to the Timberwolves. So you can play the games, all the games you want to play, but we'll be here when you start playing games. And he waited like three years and was like, fuck it, man, let me just go to the Timberwolves. So as far as Bronny not working out for all the teams, that doesn't matter because when I went to Bronny's Pro Day the other day, like Elton Brand is there.

The GM for the Charlotte Hornets is there. The GM for the Brooklyn Nets is there. Pat Riley was there. I'm mad I didn't get a pick with Pat, man. You know, I didn't want to seem like I was pressing Pat like that. But it was a plethora of GMs, coaches, presidents at Bronny's Pro Day so just because it's at the Lakers facility you had at least 16

representatives from different teams there okay well in the comments let us know what you guys think LeBron James' next steps are but that is all the time that we have for today thanks for watching and as always it is what it is GM! But that is all the time that we have for today. Thanks for watching. And as always, it is what it is. What you want, nigga? Everything nigga supersize

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