IT IS WHAT IT IS - ATHLETES VS. REPORTERS AND HOW MUCH MONEY WOULD YOU GIVE SOMEBODY WHO HELPED PUT YOU ON!? | S6 EP39

Episode Date: March 12, 2025

Ma$e, Cam’ron & Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson are back with another one!! On this episode, we discuss Stephen A Smith's interview on Gil's Arena & his response to the incident with Lebron James. Then,... Skip Bayless & Kevin Durant go back and forth on social media with KD having the best response ever to a troll! Next, SAS and Skip reunite for a show on Skip's new show on Youtube and our NFL analyst Arabia is back to talk about Daniel Jones going to the Colts and Myles Garrett Staying with the Browns! Please rate, review, and follow the podcast for more content.  Support the show and sign up for Underdog Fantasy HERE with promo code CAM and get a $1000 first deposit match, and a Special Pick'em pick. Follow the show and our hosts on social media: It Is What It Is, Cam'Ron, Ma$e, and Treasure "Stat Baby" Wilson , Producer Ayooo Nick Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hello y'all, uh I was selling crack on a private jet up in a hell and back But no confusion, this a reunion Hello y'all, welcome back Yeah, Murda here, he countin' money He said, can't man the hell we're at I'm only here to shit on niggas and piss on bitches Welcome ass, I bought jewelry and bikes, nigga
Starting point is 00:00:19 Black fences and white vigas Now I'm out here and I'm lookin' for more chandeliers and light pictures Nah, I don't like niggas, what's wrong with me? Welcome back to It Is What It Is, this episode is sponsored by Underdog. The app is an easy way to make some cash just by making picks on your favorite players. Underdog is available in more than 30 states including California, Texas, and New York just to name a few. Make sure to support the show by hitting the link in the bio and downloading the Underdog is available in more than 30 states, including California, Texas, and New York, just to name a few. Make sure to support the show by hitting the link in the bio and downloading the Underdog app. Use code MACE, CAM, or STAT to get up to $1,000 in bonus credits
Starting point is 00:00:53 with your first deposit and a free pick. I'm Treasurer Wilson, AKA STATbaby, along with your hosts Mace and Cam. Killer was good, man. Bro, what's up, man? Chillin', man. Got the underdog basketball out. Yeah. Larry, y'all won today or yesterday?
Starting point is 00:01:11 Nah, nah, we lost man, we lost. First game back. What am I talking about? Last time I was an underdog. I'm always a favorite. I'm always a favorite. I'm always a favorite. I'm always a favorite. I'm always a favorite. I'm always a favorite. I'm always a favorite.
Starting point is 00:01:29 I'm always a favorite. I'm always a favorite. I'm always a favorite. I'm always a favorite. I'm always a favorite. I'm always a favorite. I'm always a favorite. I'm always a favorite.
Starting point is 00:01:37 I'm always a favorite. I'm always a favorite. I'm always a favorite. I'm always a favorite. I'm always a favorite. I'm always a favorite. I'm always a favorite. I'm always a favorite. I'm always a favorite. I'm always aas sleeping on them niggas. I like that, that we can help grow the company,
Starting point is 00:01:48 cause I felt like other companies, they was sleeping on the dog now, niggas is a household name. I was saying they wasn't like that before, but now niggas is like that, like that. I'm happy about it, it's been a little minute, I was just thinking about that. What's this mean before the show starts though, that we're wearing the same colors?
Starting point is 00:02:03 Cause I came in, I was a little perturbed about it. I swiped through my glasses. Yeah, we do got on the same color. Yeah, we cool today? I guess so. You know what? I'm thinking about the thing Arabia's on today. Maybe we got...
Starting point is 00:02:20 The Red Skates. It was like... Yeah, the Commandos. Yeah, it was all centered. We didn't even realize it. Yeah. And Stat got the black on. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:02:31 Yeah, cause I didn't even really, I didn't even pick this out. Who picked it? You still pick out your clothes? That's childish. That's childish. That's childish. That's childish.
Starting point is 00:02:43 That's childish. That's childish. That's childish. That's childish. That's childish. That's- That was a good one. They'll pick your clothes off like first day of school. Yeah, yeah, you say. Nah, I'm gonna keep it on it. I'm gonna wait. You let me, I didn't set you up for that, but I swear to God, I heard Mariah Carey tell Dame Dash that when they was like, they was like going back on some stunt and shit. And Dame said some shit like,
Starting point is 00:03:11 yo, you picked that out, and she said, you still picking it? You still picking it? Who done? Who done? He's still picking his clothes out. He was stuck. He was stuck.
Starting point is 00:03:22 Niggas like, good one. She was like, she was like perturbed about the shit. Like, why the niggas still picking out the outfit? Like, who got time to do that? Yeah, so, yeah, I ain't gonna, that wasn't mine. You picked that outfit out? Yes, I did. I have stylist, but I chose this, thank you.
Starting point is 00:03:39 I'll say. Yeah, I never got a chance to use that. But I literally didn't pick this out today. Nice. Okay, so we're actually gonna start with basketball because there's a lot going on that I want you guys' opinion on. So we're gonna start with this whole Stephen A situation.
Starting point is 00:03:55 So he went on Gills Arena talking about the incident where LeBron confronted him courtside about Brawny. He went on to say a lot of people thought this was the end of the game or something like that. This was in the third quarter. Apparently, LeBron walked out of the timeout, and I turn around and he's right here in my face, and he said, yo, you gotta stop talking shit about my son.
Starting point is 00:04:13 Stephen A. later explained that he thought the whole interaction was weak, and he thought it was bullshit. He did explain that he understood James as his father, speaking up for his son, but what do you make of this explanation? Because, of course, the part that everybody's running with is calling LeBron weak for approaching him about Brawny.
Starting point is 00:04:30 So, I want to get you guys' opinion on that part of the situation. Cam, I'm gonna let you go first. Oh, I talked about this on Talk with Flea yesterday morning. Oh, let me take my glasses off as well. Coming in is a little bright. It was, see, what happened is this, I don't really talk to people about
Starting point is 00:04:52 how they father their kids, or parent their kids, as long as you're doing a good job, or how you fit the best job you could do for your child. And to me, it was one thing that Steve and they said that I don't think that when LeBron approached him, he said what he meant. And this was just my opinion. Everybody was criticizing Bronnie, saying he was not doing good,
Starting point is 00:05:18 not saying he wasn't ready for the league, et cetera, et cetera, nepotism, all this stuff. And that was cool to me, but it was something that Stephen A. Smith said, and one day he was like, as a father, I'm asking you to stop this, Braun. So I'm asking you to stop this as a father. And then I remember the next day,
Starting point is 00:05:39 Stephen A. getting on the air, and he was like, people from LeBron camp calling me, yada, yada, yada, yada, yada, and like I did something wrong, this, that, and the third, et cetera, et cetera. So to me, I don't think it was about Bronnie, and this is just my opinion, I could be totally wrong. I'm just saying from what I've seen,
Starting point is 00:05:58 the videos, the people talking, just putting my pieces of the collage together, is when he said, as a father, I'm asking you to stop this. As a dad stop this when Bronnie wasn't playing. And I think that Bron had a problem with him questioning his parenting. My personal opinion, I don't think it was about basketball.
Starting point is 00:06:19 I'm not saying him and LeBron had the best relationship in the world. But I just think to me LeBron was being questioned about his parenting. And if it's about his parenting, I don't think you can ask another father to do as good of a job as LeBron is doing parenting. Now, if people have problems with the way Bronnie plays, he's an athlete.
Starting point is 00:06:41 He has to be open to speculation when he's not playing good. He's a professional athlete. It's just the way it is. When you're a professional athlete, you're open to criticism, and that's just that. But I think it was more about him questioning the parenting skills, my personal opinion,
Starting point is 00:06:57 because I remember he was like, I'm getting calls the next day, this, that, and the third. But when you're talking about criticizing Lebronnie, pardon me, Bronnie playing and he's not playing good, you can't be mad at that. That's just part of him being an athlete. As a father, you did everything you could do, talking about Lebron, to get your son
Starting point is 00:07:18 to a professional athlete. And whether he deserves to be there. That's him, where he gets there. That's for him to prove. Because we got eyes. We gonna see if he don't need to be there. But as a father, when I was specified on talk with Flea yesterday, murder was that
Starting point is 00:07:39 as parents, I'm not talking about Bronnie or anything else. If you can, and I know you have a whole different take. I know you take it probably gonna be. But what I'm saying is parents, nothing to do with Brawny or anything else. If you can, and I know you have a whole different thing, I know you're probably gonna be, but what I'm saying is parents, nothing to do with Brawny or anything. If you own a company, and your son is just as qualified as somebody else to do the job that they want him to do.
Starting point is 00:07:58 He's getting a job. He's getting a job. That's just what I'm saying. Now, whether he's qualified to get the job, that's gonna be up to saying. Now whether he's qualified to get the job, that's gonna be up to him to see if he's qualified to keep doing the job. That's what I was saying about with my son. I said, my son's fucking running the company.
Starting point is 00:08:16 Somebody has the same skill as my son to do the job and their skill set is equal. My son's gonna get the job. This is, he's not gonna, if he's not qualified, my son's gonna get the job. If he's not qualified, then I'm gonna put somebody that is qualified. But I think more people have a problem with how he got there.
Starting point is 00:08:33 And if he's not playing good, that's that. But my personal opinion is, just to answer the question, put some context before I give you my answer stat, is that I don't think it was about Barney playing. I think that, I mean, Braun had a problem with when a nigga was like, when Steve and they parted, and he was saying, stop this as a father. Come on, as a father, I'm asking you to stop this.
Starting point is 00:08:55 And that's my opinion. Do I think it's weak? It don't look strong. Somebody made a point, I remember when, and it's just, it's part of being a parent, but when you're a parent at the highest level, it's different. It was somebody brought up a time when LeBron
Starting point is 00:09:09 got into it with Kevin Garnett as a player. His mother jumped up, LeBron's mother, to try and get at Kevin Garnett, and then LeBron was like, sit down. Because he could take care of himself. But it's just instinct as a parent, my personal opinion. But I don't think it has nothing to do with Bronnie's play. I think when that came out LeBron's mouth
Starting point is 00:09:28 it was more about him, his parenting skills, because we all see if Bronnie's doing good or bad, we got eyes. It's really nothing for me to say when it comes, like you said, when it comes to somebody parenting, that doesn't merit my take on it. If we're talking about something else, I would be able to give a take,
Starting point is 00:09:48 but you hit it 100% on the head pause that if it's a parenting situation, that's how he chose to parent the situation. I don't have nothing to say about that. Okay, and there you have it. Next person we gotta talk about is Skip Bayless. So he spoke on KD saying, the more I watch him at age 36,
Starting point is 00:10:07 the more he looks mentally semi-retired to me. KD then responded via Twitter saying, fuck it, we're both washed. It was a great run at real Skip Bayless. How did that happen? It's so wet. I didn't even feel that. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:26 When trolling goes wrong. I love KD's responses. KD. KD has no filter. I bet you he was on X when he said that, right? Yeah. He said fucking we both watched. Hey, what about it? KD on X is different.
Starting point is 00:10:40 He's like a whole different person on X. He's like a superhero on X. Like, he says the most outlandish things. Oh man, KD, if you're watching this, can you send some of your X posts to, it is what it is, so we can post them? Yeah, yeah. You know, you might need to get somebody
Starting point is 00:10:58 who's going down KD's shit. Like, y'all, the Tristan knows a lot of KD's shit. I might call in and send all of his shits that KD's shit, like, y'all, the Tristan knows a lot of KD's shit. I might call in and send all of his shit that KD be saying. KD is a wild boy. Oh man, you take somebody like Skip Bayless, think he's making a point, and then he throws them right back. We're both washed, you know?
Starting point is 00:11:20 I'm washed, you're washed. And how do you fight when somebody say, we're both washed, we're both washed. What's your comeback for that? I'm lit? Yeah, yeah, you know what I'm saying? I'm still lit. You know what, so that's such a great comeback.
Starting point is 00:11:43 Because if we, and we know KD's not washed, but we just saying, if we compare who's more washed, because that's the great point that you just made. You can't say I'm lit. Oh, you're not more lit than me, because you washed, we both washed. It's sensational, yo. He said, we're both washing,
Starting point is 00:12:03 then he's looking at what he does and putting it on a level and then what KD is doing. But like you said, KD is performing still at a high level. And now he's telling Skip Bayless, you're not still at that level. In fact, you've taken some steps down. Yeah, compared to me. Yeah, so, KD, this was one for the ages, pause, for real.
Starting point is 00:12:28 I think Skip Bayless didn't have a comeback for it. What can you say? What's close with Skip Bayless would say is that I'm actually not awesome, like, yes you are. Yes you are. Yeah, KD. KD trolled him. Nah, I like that. First, like I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:12:45 I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:12:52 I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 00:12:59 I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck? I'm like, what the fuck? One thing I talked about this couple seasons ago, that was one of his best joints was to me, when somebody said, yo,
Starting point is 00:13:10 I woke up from late, I was trying to get my schedule, my wifi went out, I didn't have any wifi. I get to my car, my car, tire was flat. I went to get on the bus, the bus splashed water on me before I got to work, but I got to work late. And I still did it. I didn't take the easy way out like Kevin Durant.
Starting point is 00:13:32 And Kevin Durant said, so you happy your Wi-Fi went out? You got splashed with water on the way to work? Sounds fun. And he ain't taking the easy way out. He ain't taking the easy way out. He take the easy way out. But the thing about it is when Kevin Durant got time, he's hilarious,
Starting point is 00:13:51 cause I ain't gonna front, I guess we both was, is crazy cause you skip, can't really say nothing back to that. That was crazy. That's definitely a meme. And it was quick. Yeah. It was quick.
Starting point is 00:14:04 And it was just like that. So, based on kind of what we've seen and even just discussed, like, just for the first part of the show, we've seen a lot of discourse between athletes and media personalities. Do you guys feel like there's a better way to handle these situations, or do you just feel like it's inevitable, people are gonna be mad regardless and they just say what they wanna say and move on?
Starting point is 00:14:23 Or do you think that there's a better way to kind of handle these situations, confront either athletes or personalities when they're talking about you? I think to your question, both... Two things could be true at the same time. Do the people that are doing the journalism need to get better, myself included? Yes.
Starting point is 00:14:42 Because when you got this new age or new age journalism, people are just saying things for clicks. They're saying things to, and I'm not doing that, but most people, they're just saying what they say because they know it's gonna go viral and it's gonna keep them in the algorithm. But the algorithm doesn't always pay off. So even when it comes to that,
Starting point is 00:15:04 you got people that are doing things that's going to backfire because later on down the line, they're going to need the person that they're using that trying to get on the algorithm against. And I mean that in a sports way. When you think of the questions people ask, they're not thinking about what they're asking, they're not doing their research, they're just shooting off the hip. And I think that don't make good journalism. I think it really matters.
Starting point is 00:15:30 When I used to watch like Marv, not Marv Albert, is Marv Albert? Marv Albert was a journalist, right? Well, I didn't know he was an announcer for the games. Oh yeah. I didn't know he, he's a sportscaster. Yeah. I didn't know he started an announcer for the game. Oh yeah. I know he's sportscaster. I know he started biting bitches too. That's what made me stop.
Starting point is 00:15:52 Stop making a face you don't even know I'm talking about. That's what made me stop when I said Marv Alva. I meant to say Ahmad Rashad and people like that that was interviewing athletes. Now go ahead and Google it, stop like I'm making this up. Go ahead. Go ahead and Google it, stop like I'm making this up. Yeah, go ahead, go ahead. Go ahead, go ahead. Go ahead, Google it.
Starting point is 00:16:07 I am. It'd be amazing what she doesn't know, right? It's crazy. She's like, bite made her face a nasty way straight to Google, go ahead, Google it. I was like, why are you biting women? Like, how do you get that? And you're dressing up in stockings and biting bitches, man.
Starting point is 00:16:22 And yes, I'm making, 1967 to 2004, I was born in 2001, man. It's like. But you made the face like niggas didn't know, though. Yeah, you made the face like we was making this up. Yeah, yeah. Did you find the biting shit? It says, yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:37 I like that. That's crazy. Yeah, so back to the journalism before the biting, right? Right. I'm saying these journalists, they were really on their game. Stuart Scott, people like that. Dick Votel, those are the people I watched. What's the guy on partner interruption?
Starting point is 00:17:00 It's Tony Krohn. Yeah, Tony Krohn has Mike Wilbur. Yeah, they really know their stuff. And when you got people like that talking about the sports, it makes for a better conversation because they actually know what they're talking about. And I think somewhere in the NBA, the game became so sensitive
Starting point is 00:17:18 that people don't like criticism and they don't like criticism coming from people they felt like didn't play the game. And then they start discrediting the people that didn't play the game as if because you didn't play you actually don't know and that doesn't make sense because there's people that run the NBA that never played. There's people that run music that never made an album but they still know what they're talking about when it comes to what they're talking about.
Starting point is 00:17:44 So that would be my take. That's what messed a lot of things up. Sensitivity and people not respecting other people's voice. And just to piggyback off of what you just said towards the end, when it comes to people, when they be like, oh, you never played or you haven't been to sports, you don't know. And it's always good to me. That's why when we bring football season around,
Starting point is 00:18:09 or basketball season, that we try and have somebody who has more experience than us to fill us in with things that we haven't seen. It's always great to have O.J. Simpson or Michael Irvin or even somebody like Arabia who's deep into football. I've seen her basketball takes, she doesn't have one clue about basketball, but she knows a lot of football.
Starting point is 00:18:32 We appreciate her up here. But to Mason's point when he's like, oh, you never played in the Stanley third, and we never played at a professional level, we got to college. But the point being is, it's more people who haven't played than played. And there's a lot of people gambling and not just gambling,
Starting point is 00:18:51 invested in their city and their team because the city's in. And they got an opinion. And to me, this is why me and Mason, myself, came with this show, because we can sit there analyzing, do statistics and analytics and call players and GMs and everybody else
Starting point is 00:19:09 to get information, which we do. But we also talk to niggas who outside who like, yo, Cam, you know niggas now, come on my nigga. Had the whole shit fucked up last night. Yo, you know niggas almost bet the house on this nigga. He just made the, you just made whatever the bed is. Yo, call that nigga. You know what I'm saying?
Starting point is 00:19:31 It's the gap between that. So when players get mad, be like, you never played, this time play. It's more people who haven't played invested in y'all niggas than the people who actually did play. That's why the arenas is filled up. That's why the stadiums is filled up. That's why the stadiums is filled up. That's a great point.
Starting point is 00:19:47 There's 30 to 40,000 people that didn't play. That's going into your pocket. Yeah, exactly. And don't get into football. It can be 80, 90, 100 people, 100,000 people. And we're not talking about party murder. We're not talking about who's at the game, we're talking about who's watching the game besides the people who's at the game.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Some people are like, oh you didn't play this, well niggas been watching probably before you was born, not just, I'm talking about older fans. Yeah, the same way you said about the Brownie situation, you said anybody with eyes know what they see. I don't have to play basketball to know that basket didn't go in, and it keeps not going in for us.
Starting point is 00:20:29 So, that's what I do now. And OJ said it, you got the grass on the hobbyist. That's the hobbyist. When you come in, we lose. Like, we gotta pay attention to that. And I don't mean Bronnie, I just mean, you know, people have eyes, they're watching the game. I know this person scores 30.
Starting point is 00:20:49 I know this guy is on the record of scoring 30. I wanna know why you get three people together that could all score 30 and you go on a losing rampage. Right? That's already 90 points between Bill, Katie and Booker. That's 90 points. That should be 90 points.
Starting point is 00:21:10 If nobody else scores, that many people can get 30. Right. Right. 100%. Yeah, 100% correct. And, but yeah, like I was saying, but that's a great point that I don't know what I was saying. I don't know what you was saying.
Starting point is 00:21:26 You get mad and these niggas is paying, you have contracts, the sponsors, the fans, like that's the way it is. But I get it, you be like, you ain't got no experience, you don't know. Some niggas got mad experience in batting on y'all niggas. And like they said, you don't gotta be no genius to see that the ball does not keep going in the basket.
Starting point is 00:21:46 Or to see that you keep dropping passes. Yeah, or every time you play Denver, you don't go on a trip. Something happened. You're not available. Your nail broke. You know, something like that. Yeah, we don't see that.
Starting point is 00:22:02 Yeah, we don't see it. We don't see that. Okay, and then just side note, we don't see that. Yeah, we don't see it. We don't see that. Okay, and then just side note, because I'm just looking into this, how did you even know about the biting thing? Cause I'm looking at it, I'm like, why is that? Yo, you know what's crazy, my man?
Starting point is 00:22:15 Hold on, hold on, hold on, hold on real quick. And I'm talking to you, but I see, I'm like, yo. I said, I'm in my bra, I said, I hope Stats not on Marvel or Wikipedia, because I seen her Wikipedia. And I'm like- That was just 1995 article. That's what I'm saying, like, she's like,
Starting point is 00:22:35 how do you know about this? Contrary to belief, I wasn't big on school, but I was big on reading the paper. Every morning I paid my money and bought a paper. Yeah, the daily news. Every day, because I wanted to see box scores too. I realized there was no phone to see box scores and everything.
Starting point is 00:22:50 And the first six pages was always interesting. Then I'd go to the back of the paper and read all the sports. But more of I was on the front page of the fucking daily news with stockings on, talking about he biting bitches. I was out in the streets in 95, my nigga. I don't know what you think I was doing, but me and Bernard was outside in 95.
Starting point is 00:23:13 That's, what year, that was 95? 95. It says 97, this article's 97, but yeah, around that time. Yeah, we was in high school, just getting out. I just can't imagine coming back from school and seeing that on the paper. I don't know. So what'd you learn just now from that?
Starting point is 00:23:29 I just learned that that was his unusual sex act. So that's the thing he was into, binding people. And then I was reading, I'm like, what? But he was a great analyst. Yeah, but why are you doing that on the side? I'm so kidding. It doesn't really correlate. You know, that goes to what I told you the other day.
Starting point is 00:23:54 When you said, Mase, you know me, I said, you don't really know anybody. Yeah. You see? That's crazy, though. But see what I'm saying to that? The reason this came to full wishin', I think, I don't remember, it's like I said, I remember Marv.
Starting point is 00:24:08 Marv, you gotta realize, like, you know, we got Barclay and Shaq and everybody that day, Kenny. He was always in the finals. That nigga, and they was playing when he was, Marv Alba was like the voice that you wanted to hear, almost like Dick Votel for college. So it was a big deal. And not just biting people, he was wearing stockings and heels.
Starting point is 00:24:28 Yeah, that's what it's, yeah. And then I think the reason why it really came to Four Wishing, it was like kinda back when May said this a few seasons ago, when he was like, when consensual is not a surprise. And I think Marv tried to surprise bite a few bitches. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:46 Yeah. She bit. Yeah, it wasn't a word. Yeah, I know. He's like, all right. He just say, yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Yeah. He listen to two ideas, man. Yeah, niggas say, yo, Marv, what is you doing? And niggas say, oh, you ain't read the ad? I like biting. And I think it was like three, four females came out and was like, he was biting me and I didn't want to be bit. I think that's how that came out, I don't remember.
Starting point is 00:25:18 But I remember Marv was on the front page for nibbling on a couple joints, man. Yeah, that's a crazy story. I just had to look into it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's one of them shit where when you go to the computer and you see that first, you ever go on YouTube and be like, I'm going to search this
Starting point is 00:25:34 and see some other shit and then just fall down around the whole pause of the other shit that you wasn't even looking for. That's how it just looked with you and Marv. Yeah, that's what happened. I just kept seeing more and more and I'm good off that. Yeah, he could go do that somewhere else. Okay, so we talked about Stephen A. LeBron confrontation.
Starting point is 00:25:52 We talked about Skip Bayless, Katie confrontation. In the midst of it all, there is some good things. So Stephen A. revealed why his $100 million ESPN deal wouldn't have happened without Skip. So, for those who don't know, Stephen A agreed to a five-year contract that will pay him an average of $20 million a year. Great deal. Congrats to Stephen A. Stephen A basically gave Skip Bayless his flowers
Starting point is 00:26:15 and said, "'It began with you and my former boss, Jamie, over at First Take. You pushed for me to be on First Take, being limited to one appearance a week to start off at. Even then, you had battles just to get me on the air and then ultimately insisting on limited to one appearance a week to start off at, even then you had battles just to get me on the air, and then ultimately, insisting on me having five days a week.
Starting point is 00:26:31 There's no way on earth that happens without you, without Jamie, so it starts there. Mace, what are your thoughts on Stephen A. actually sitting down with Skip and giving him his flowers? I think that's a beautiful thing for any time when people recognize where the success stems from. But I think it's even a more powerful thing if he figure out a way to help Skip back.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Because Skip made a definite way for him. And it led to something legendary, it led to something that's very groundbreaking. Because before Stephen A, I don't think we ever had any black analysts on TV that was making a hundred million. So that's what I would say. Big old way to pay it back. He went on the show. Huh?
Starting point is 00:27:26 He went on Skip Baylor's show. Oh, that, no, that's fire there. That is the way there. I didn't see that. I think that's enough though. Can't fly a million. Skip Baylor's probably feeling damn dashes. No, that's what I'm asking.
Starting point is 00:27:43 Need a little bit more. I'm asking you. The show is not enough. That's what I'm asking. Not I'm asking you. You need a little bit more. You need a little bit more. You need a little bit more. You need a little bit more. You need a little bit more. You need a little bit more. You need a little bit more. You need a little bit more. You need a little bit more.
Starting point is 00:27:49 You need a little bit more. You need a little bit more. You need a little bit more. You need a little bit more. You need a little bit more. You need a little bit more. You need a little bit more. You need a little bit more.
Starting point is 00:27:55 You need a little bit more. You need a little bit more. You need a little bit more. You need a little bit more. You need a little bit more. You need a little bit more. You need a little bit more. You need a little bit more.
Starting point is 00:28:02 You need a little bit more. You need a little bit more. You need a little bit more. You need a little bit more. You need a little bit more. You need a little bit more. You need a little bit more. You need a little bit more. I know you gotta think, let me think. Somebody that you cool with, let's say it was Jermaine Dupree. Y'all fell out. Y'all had a show together, y'all fell out. And then you just got the bag. And we already know JD forever, so this is all hypothetical.
Starting point is 00:28:17 But he's not doing bad, but he ain't doing as good as you. What are you doing for JD? And I know you got love for JD, that's why I asked that. What's fair for a hundred million? For a hundred million, you should at least help him to get to 50. I think I would at least try to help him to get to 50. What's that mean Mace?
Starting point is 00:28:37 What do you mean try to help him get to 50? Because if I have access to a hundred, then I mean I got people on my phone that can help them get 50. It may not be. Give me your two roundabouts. What you got? Give me out, give me out or you gonna give me the 15. Give me the 15 right now.
Starting point is 00:28:54 Give me out. What about the people around? You got it. You got the 100. How is Mace getting me the 15 right now without the people in his phone. Okay, okay. I mean, you look at your phone and you look at
Starting point is 00:29:11 what can actually work to his benefit. I mean, you bring him in to the things that he wanna do, find out what he wants to do that doesn't conflict with what you're doing. Like, say if that's a show, then maybe now you produce Steven, I mean, Skip Baylor's show. That would be great. You produce his show, come on his show once a week
Starting point is 00:29:32 and get him back. You're never gonna be what you were, but you could at least be better than what you were before. So I think he could do a show, help Skip out that way. But that would be what he'd have to do. Not he'd have to do, but that would be a good thing to do. And people will see that. Because people watch who you become when you got a lot. People watch to see who you go to help
Starting point is 00:29:56 and who you don't help. All of that matters. Right. That plan is dope. Can I get 10 now? Can I get 10 now? Can I get 10 now, make sense? I like the plan. Can I get 10 million now?
Starting point is 00:30:12 You mean like a wire? A what? I know you don't get it all at once. You know. Can I get it, can I get it, can I get 1.5 a year for the next 10? I get 1.5 a year for the next thing? Yeah, yeah. That sound like May 25th.
Starting point is 00:30:30 Yeah. Yeah. That sound like May 25th. That sound like May 25th. That sound like May 25th. That's gonna be our new joke. That's May 25th. That's May 25th right there, man.
Starting point is 00:30:43 I mean, JD definitely, JD needed out, he doesn't need it, but if he needed out, I could wire it to him. I was just wondering. 1.5, zell it to him. I ain't saying 1.5, I'm talking about 1.5. I ain't saying 1.5 is good, I got it. I'll say 10 eventually.
Starting point is 00:31:05 Let's see what he wanna do, you know? He may not want 10 million, you know? Yeah, 1.5 is 1.5. These new phones is when niggas pitches me popping up on nigga phones, it's great. It changes. What would you plan? This little nigga on a campfire.
Starting point is 00:31:25 Yeah, he placed it there, so when he calls, that's his contact picture. I don't want anybody seeing who the fuck pop up on my phone with my phone ring. Imagine, imagine it's like, you know what I'm saying? Imagine you got somebody on your phone under Petsmart and when the picture pop up, she like, ah. Pause, super pause. Like, yo, come like, ah. Ah. Ah. Pause.
Starting point is 00:31:45 Super pause. Like, yo, come on, man. Nobody asked for a whole picture. How you turn that off? You have to change it in their contact card, but that's the picture they want you to have. You can change it. I don't want nobody's face popping up.
Starting point is 00:31:56 That's in their pictures. You can change it, yeah. They put that there. They will have to change it. What I'm saying is- Well, no, he can change it on his side. When you call me, I don't wanna see nobody's face on the card.
Starting point is 00:32:04 That's valid. But it's a nice feature. I think it's good. See the new shit. It is though. I grew up with this new shit. You can't control what picture they use. Yeah, you can't control what picture they use
Starting point is 00:32:16 and not only that, see, I hate saying when we say this shit. I grew up for years and you grew up too without seeing who was calling you stat. Don't act like you grew up too without seeing who was calling you stat. Don't act like you grew up always seeing who was calling me. No, this is some new shit where people's faces is popping up and I don't necessarily wanna see people's faces popping up.
Starting point is 00:32:34 And that's that. Okay, y'all, we're gonna go to break. When we return, we will be joined with our analyst Arabia and we'll be talking NFL free agency. Don't go anywhere. Arabia and we'll be talking NFL free agency. Don't go anywhere. She call this thing a boss toxic Four years and counting Got you feeling like an option Maybe I'm her own problem, babe She tired of hearing, I don't know My stubborn in me won't fold Dealing with this thing called trust but she really thinking bout wanna be free
Starting point is 00:33:28 why am I in this one way free welcome back now let's get into our underdog picks up the day tonight the timberwolves will be playing the nuggets underdog has anthony edwards at 37.5 points rebounds and assists do you have him higher or lower, Mace? They playing the Nuggets. I'm going higher. Ant-Man is different.
Starting point is 00:33:52 Okay. So, the Ant-Man and the Deedas, they just sent me the new Ant-Mans, man. That's pretty dope, man. You know, I love history, man. Salute, man. Fuck with Ant-Man and the Deedas. So, I'm gonna go with the Deedas, man. Salute, man. Fuck with Ant-Man and the Deers. So, man, I need you guys, man.
Starting point is 00:34:07 All right, okay. Higher, lower, I'm gonna hire. Okay. This guy rub up for the playoffs. We already see Denver making the search. Think they're second right now. Timberwolves don't wanna fall into that playing. I'm gonna go hire.
Starting point is 00:34:22 Ant-Man know what time of year it is. Even though he's getting doubled and tripled teamed a lot this season, he gonna figure it out. Okay. Yokech is at 51 and a half points, rebounds and assists. You have my higher or lower. Did you see Yokech have two triple doubles in one game?
Starting point is 00:34:36 Larry, I see that you write that. Nigga had two triple doubles. That's crazy. Yo, how do you have two triple doubles in one game? Crazy. Nigga had 30, 20, 20. Yeah. So if you divide all that in two, it's have two triple doubles in one game? Nigger had 30, 20, 20. So if you divide all that in two, it's still a triple double.
Starting point is 00:34:48 I think it was about a third quarter he had the first triple double, like the first few minutes of the third quarter, then the rest of the game he got another triple double. Yo, the nigger had 30, 21, and 21. And you know what people don't even fucking know? He's in the top three, points, rebounds, and assists, top three.
Starting point is 00:35:09 And niggas don't even realize he's number four in steals. How the fuck is he number four in steals? What the fuck? Number four what, all the time? This season. Oh yeah, this season. I was about to say. A center is number four in steals?
Starting point is 00:35:27 Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's crazy. Nah, bro. He should be the MVP, fam. I know Shay balling, but. This is, yeah, I ain't gonna hold. Come on, man. This is a hard decision, man.
Starting point is 00:35:36 If he doesn't get it this year, it'll probably be over for Shay getting the MVP. And I wanna see Shay get the MVP, but it seemed like Shaq is, I mean, Yoke is just becoming as dominant as Shaq. That's what I said the other day. And it was hard for me to say that. It's hard, it's hard, because you know it boys,
Starting point is 00:35:57 I understand this, it's Shaq. It's Shaq, yeah. This nigga plays point guard for the Denver Nuggets. Word. He plays point guard. 35, 21, and 20 is like. nigga plays point guard for the Denver Nuggets. Word. He plays point guard. 35, 21, and 20 is like. Plays point guard for them. Bro, he is fourth in steals.
Starting point is 00:36:11 I don't think niggas understand, like I know the game changed, but I ain't know to go to the change with the Senators is in the top five in fucking steals. Ain't steals supposed to be for the guards? Like steal yo steals nigga? Okay, block shots, cool. Okay, whatever.
Starting point is 00:36:27 Steals? Nah, come on, bro. But Braun, the kid Braun and Westbrook, they just run down to the street now and now. They don't need to miss. Yeah, I seen the game over. Yeah, he's coming to get the ball like he's the one. He's the point guard.
Starting point is 00:36:42 Yeah, he's like. The way he's doing is. He's the point guard. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he's like. What he's doing is too, they gotta, they gotta, the coaches run some beautiful plays. He'll come off the box, come get the ball, like you said, at the key. Busbrook will pass to it. Busbrook will fake like going to the wing
Starting point is 00:36:58 and cut to the basket, give the wet busbrook, he's just finished. And they got really good plays that they're running with him off point guard. 21 assists. 21 assists. 21 assists is crazy, bro. You know what I'm saying? Like, come on.
Starting point is 00:37:10 Yeah, and they take the big man away from the basket, which is helping them. That's why they're getting the rebound. Exactly. And then on top of that, you can't leave him out there because he could shoot the three. Look, Shay is still favorite to get it, but I think they're gonna base it on the amount of wins
Starting point is 00:37:27 that OKC is in front of everybody in the West. They're like a seven game lead even in front of Denver. So the next closest team is Denver or it was the Lakers, but I believe it's Denver now. And that bigger gap in the Western Conference pause is probably gonna give Shea the reason to get MVP. And if it ain't the season to give it to him, what season are you gonna give it to him?
Starting point is 00:37:49 But God damn, I don't know. As much as I like Shea, I don't know if I can vote for him if I had to vote. This is what Jokers doing, higher, higher. High, definitely high. And then with all, with what you guys just said, that definitely sparks another debate because there's a lot of back and forth
Starting point is 00:38:05 on who is the best player in the league right now, which we'll get into another day, but definitely gonna have to get you guys opinions on that. Lastly, we got Jamal Murray at 22 and a half points. Do you have him higher or lower Mace? I mean, he play on my team, so I'm definitely going higher. Am I your team's slakers, bro? Okay, any please. What team is Lakers, okay? Any of these?
Starting point is 00:38:26 What team is he referring to now? I don't know, I'll guess. I'm just gonna start saying, I don't know. I don't know. Thought the Lakers was your team. Exactly. Look at me. I was just waiting for him to say it.
Starting point is 00:38:41 LeBron out now, nigga. LeBron. I don't know that. Two things could be right. The new hotness. The new hotness, you know. Title town on the move, you know. If LeBron is out, I can't be with the Lakers and LeBron out.
Starting point is 00:38:59 We knew this already anyway, Murda. What's the answer? Yeah, Jamal Murray, 22 and a half points. Do you have him higher or lower? Denver, his team is crazy. The OKC, a lot of teams was his team. Higher, more so. OKC was never my team.
Starting point is 00:39:14 I said Denver was my team since the bubble. Okay. Yeah, we so need to cross check past videos and find the trail I'm not gonna argue you look like you're the moon And you can make your picks too we've got a lot of football to talk about so today we are joined with our analysts Arabia So today we are joined with our analyst, Arabia. Arabia! Hello everybody, nice to see you.
Starting point is 00:39:47 Nice to be back. We figured you would show up with all of the moves that the commanders are making. I figured you was somewhere around if that's going on. Yeah, I'm always in tune with the commanders, at least at the very least. So I've definitely been live tracking them 24 seven. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:40:07 Yeah, all the moves they made that didn't make them to the Super Bowl. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Cam, who's your team?
Starting point is 00:40:18 I look, we wear commander's colors, man. I, I, we wear commander. I don't have a team currently because I'm still looking for one because'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie.
Starting point is 00:40:36 I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie. I'm not gonna lie, I'm not gonna lie. I'm? Growing up, I'm talking about when the Redskins lost, I cried. I don't know, are you familiar with Joe Gibbs? Are you familiar with Art? Are you familiar with Art Monk?
Starting point is 00:40:51 Are you familiar with John Riggins? Are you familiar with Joe Disman? I don't even know if you was born when I was a Redskins fan, all right? I was out here, so don't get at me. You're the new hotness with the Commanders. I've been down for years. And I was a Redskins fan when it was Doug Williams.
Starting point is 00:41:10 Wow. Okay, but actually, I co-signed this. There's a picture of you with the Redskins. This is the one time that I was posting, I was like, dang, he has the footage. I'm listening to you. I was a Redskins fan when it was Doug Williams. I got the jacket on.
Starting point is 00:41:31 I got the jacket on. That was after Joe Dizeman. That was afterwards. That was like the fucking- I'm not gonna argue. I had the jacket on. The year was a fucking, it wasn't an official year when niggas won that year.
Starting point is 00:41:43 I'll sell a fan too. I'm not saying you don't murder. I had the phone, the house phone, that was the helmet. The Redskins helmet, nigga pause, when you got your house phone ring, and it's the helmet, that was my phone. Doug Williams wasn't even, he was probably a young nigga like us at the time.
Starting point is 00:42:01 So all of y'all chill out. Arabia too, was you alive when the Ruskies won the, in the 80s when they won the Super Bowl? Darrell Green. Well their last Super Bowl was in the 90s and yes I was alive. Well I said that wasn't the question. I asked was you alive when they won in the 80s.
Starting point is 00:42:21 Status pull in my picture. I've been out here, it's hard to find murder. Don't kill yourself looking for that rescues picture. Listen, we ain't got that much time, man. I'm gonna send it to Mick because I so found it and I was like, dang, I guess he always was a Commander's fan. This is the one time I'll co-sign it. Not Commanders, not Commanders.
Starting point is 00:42:40 OG team, my fault. Since the Commanders sound, shit. OG team, my fault. Yo, since the, since the, since the, since the commander sound like a G League team. I accept. What? Yo, what you got to say about that, Rabian? My man, since city said the commander sound like a W, not, pardon me, an NBA G League team, man.
Starting point is 00:43:04 It does, but I don't care. If the G League name team get into the Super Bowl, then cool, I don't care what they call it. Mmm. I like that. But... First and foremost, Arabia, you did share some news on your social media, so I just want to say
Starting point is 00:43:18 we are glad you are back and glad you are okay. Is there anything else that you would like to tell the audience because you were missed and people were concerned, so I just want to kind of let you speak on that just a little bit, if you like, and then we'll move on into all this stuff happening at Free Agency. Yeah, so I definitely took a little break, kind of coming back, getting my legs back
Starting point is 00:43:36 with this whole media thing. But found out in October that I had breast cancer. So I just took a pause at the end of the Super Bowl for a few weeks while I dealt with surgery, and still kind of going through it, I have another surgery in April, but just took a little break for my health, and so now I'm kind of getting back.
Starting point is 00:43:56 So thank you for having me back. Yes, of course, we are so glad you were okay, and you were missed. Yeah, we missed you, man, definitely, definitely missed you, man. You were missed. Okay, so, they just saw some inspiration, which will show at the end, let's get into the cults.
Starting point is 00:44:09 They are signing Daniel Jones. Let me see that picture. Like. Let me see. Yo, Wale had posted that, and I was like, yo. Yo, yeah. I wanna send it to Nick,
Starting point is 00:44:22 because y'all are not gonna be able to see it from here. Thank you Wale. Thank you Wale. Thank you Wale had posted that and I was like, yo. Yo, man. He's rocking the jacket. Thank you, Wale. I wanna send it to Nick. Thank you, Wale. Because y'all are not gonna be able to see it from here. Thank you, Wale. I can't make this up. I know I'm gonna do, I'm gonna send it. I'm gonna send it in that error.
Starting point is 00:44:35 All my pictures in Jersey. How about you on that picture? Yo, Larry, stay out of this. Hey, hey, hey. Y'all was on tour in that city. You rocked that ass ass. He was just rocking the jacket. The evidence is there, Mace, he was correct,
Starting point is 00:44:56 he at some point, sent the picture to Nick, y'all will see that. Yeah, you know. Okay, let's get into the cults, they are signing Daniel Jones to a one-year, $14 million deal. He had a chance to return to the Vikings, but we now know that that is not the case. Arabia, do you think that he is a good fit for the Colts,
Starting point is 00:45:14 or does this cause some issues at the quarterback position? What do you think? Yeah, I think so. Daniel Jones is not about to find a second win and come to life on the Colts. That's not why he was brought in. He win and come to life on the Colts. That's not what he was brought in. He was brought in to be competition for Anthony Richardson.
Starting point is 00:45:30 And so it's really just another Shane Steichen motivational move. We saw Shane Steichen do another one of these moves by benching him for Joe Flacco. So this is another move to kind of just try to light the fire under Anthony Richardson's feet to see if he can realize his potential. And it also adds to the larger conversation,
Starting point is 00:45:47 which is kind of a sidebar of drafting and scouting and how it really is not an exact science. We have Daniel Jones, who was the number six overall pick in 2019. We have Richardson, who was the number four overall pick in 2023, both kind of struggling to find their footing. Daniel Jones being signed to a practice squad. So it's kind of like the weatherman.
Starting point is 00:46:04 The weatherman can try to do his best, read data, read analytics, go based on his performance, but you never know until the day gets here. And now that we're here, we see that these two high draft picks ended up kind of, just kind of struggling and trying to find their footing. So Daniel Jones is not about to come in and take over anybody's spot,
Starting point is 00:46:22 but stranger things have happened. I can see Daniel Jones maybe coming in, having a couple of splash plays here and there. He could have a little bit still left in the tank, especially when it comes to his legs. He's one of those mobile quarterbacks who can get you some rushing touchdowns who can make it happen on the ground. But for the most part, this move was made
Starting point is 00:46:39 in order to create competition for Anthony Richardson. So you think the nigga ain't got... Like, he... How old... First of all, how old is he, stat? Daniel Jones? Yeah, because Arabia's just throwing the nigga under the bus. Twenty-seven. He ain't even that old, Arabia. Now, look, I'm not no Daniel Jones fan.
Starting point is 00:46:58 My personal opinion is the Giants really fucked up when they gave him that chicken and then gave it to Saquon Barkley. And they paid him the ultimate price. Niggas in the division, winning the Super Bowl, about two or three years after you paid this nigga. Not only that, he's not on the team anymore. But I'm not, so don't get me wrong,
Starting point is 00:47:17 I'm not a Daniel Jones fan at the moment. But why do you think he can't be a good quarterback in this league eventually? The way you made it seem like he can't even create competition, which I'm not disagreeing with you, but why don't you think that could be his spot eventually? I'm not saying that I don't, but even given the fact that they gave him a one year deal,
Starting point is 00:47:38 it's kind of like, let's just see what you do here. They don't even necessarily believe that. It's not even a two year. They're just kind of like, let's just see if you can create. They don't even necessarily believe that. It's not even a two year. They're just kind of like, let's just see if you can create competition. And if you do come in, we can be the first ones in your ear if we do want to resign you. But I just don't see that for Daniel Jones.
Starting point is 00:47:54 I didn't really see it towards his later years in New York. We didn't see anything from him for the Vikings. So I just, I don't see it. I'll throw him under the bus. I'll be the first one to say, I don't see Daniel Jones coming out and being like a top tier quarterback. He could be a mid tier and find his footing
Starting point is 00:48:08 on somebody's team, but I don't see him being like the guy in the league. Yeah, the reason why to me, and I would take your opinion and your take over mind because I haven't put this much thought into it, but Richardson is, he's always fucking hurt from what I'm fucking thinking of his short career in Indianapolis.
Starting point is 00:48:30 The nigga, he's always hurt or he's always tired. Who the fuck he says that? The nigga was... Yeah, he said he was tired, so he has to be pulled up. Yeah, the fuck, my nigga. So, lucky Joe Flacco wasn't killing, because he might have fucking sat down
Starting point is 00:48:44 the rest of the fucking season talking about Richardson. Very inconsistent since he's been here. Injuries or whatever else to reason. And Daniel Jones, to me, like I said, I have no dog in the fight, but you just never know. People like me, when I see Geno Smith, and I see, I thought it was over for him,
Starting point is 00:49:01 especially living in New York. You play with the Jets, you play with the Giants, you couldn't get it done on either one, the Jets or the Giants, not saying that's an easy thing to do, living in New York. Then you go to Chargers, doesn't look good. Then you're sitting behind Russell Wilson for years.
Starting point is 00:49:14 Now you're about to get a very, very good contract. It was a long road to get back to, people wanted to pay Geno Smith $35 million. You know, he left Seattle because he thinks he's worth 45 million, but I didn't think Geno Smith would ever be in this conversation having this type of offer to him
Starting point is 00:49:35 and not just offer to him at 34 years old. So I think Daniel Jones has time. Is he gonna succeed? I'll take a rabies take and say, maybe he's just there for competition, but seeing what Geno Smith's been able to accomplish the last two or three years, I'm not counting anybody out at the quarterback position until it's all said and done.
Starting point is 00:49:55 And then, so just a follow-up question. So among players with at least 10 starts, Daniel Jones and Anthony Richardson hold the two lowest passer ratings in the NFL over the last two seasons. Richardson also has the worst completion percentage over that span and Jones has the fewest adjusted yards per attempt. This is it is what it is.
Starting point is 00:50:11 We supposed to keep real Arabia in your words. Is there upside or do you feel like the Colts season is still doomed for this upcoming season? Or is there hope? You know, what are we thinking? I think it's way too early to count their season out and the official league year has not even really started. We still have the draft coming up.
Starting point is 00:50:32 We still have OTAs, training camp. So I would not count the Colts out today. Way too early. Like he said, we've seen quarterbacks turn things around. Sam Darnold. Who thought Sam Darnold was gonna come out and have the season that he did? We see it all the time at every position
Starting point is 00:50:48 where people come out and have really great seasons. So, I wouldn't count them out at all. And they're in a division where you can accumulate a few wins. So, I wouldn't count them out at all. Okay. And, Ken, what do you think? The Cots? Yeah. Do we see upside or... It ain't no reason to count them in.
Starting point is 00:51:06 What the fuck we even put them in? Every year some shit with the cults, yo. Cults ain't been, they ain't even been that decent. I ain't been fucked with the cults since then. Well, I ain't gonna go back to Payne, man, but Andrew Luck, since Andrew Luck left, I don't know what the fuck going on with the cults. Most I know about the cults is the owner being high.
Starting point is 00:51:30 Erse, that nigga be high. Erse, that's that nigga name. That's the last famous shit happened with the cults. Them niggas, you know what I'm saying? Niggas here, y'all just look at my nigga. That's the most famous shit that happened with the cults in the last 10 years. Andrew Luck retired early,
Starting point is 00:51:44 and Erse keep getting caught with them pills and them drugs, and that's that. I don't put, I can't invest my time into the Colts. Whatever Arabia said, I don't know. Okay, now we're gonna move on to Myles Gary. He's agrees to a four year, $160 million extension. With the Browns, there is $123.5 million in guaranteed money, which makes him the highest paid non-quarterback in NFL history.
Starting point is 00:52:08 Arabia, are you surprised he took the money as opposed to looking for a win with another team? What do we think about this situation? And what do we think about him being the highest paid non-quarterback? I think he deserves it. He's one of the best at his position in the entire league. He absolutely deserved it.
Starting point is 00:52:24 I hate Miles Garrett on the Browns. the best at his position in the entire league. He absolutely deserved it. I hate Miles Garrett on the Browns. Miles Garrett hates Miles Garrett on the Browns. He just said it. He just said that he doesn't want to be there. You can see it in his eyes. He's tired of losing. And yet, they gave him a bag, and he stayed.
Starting point is 00:52:37 He's kind of like a female that's like, oh, my nigga, not shit. But then you turn around and you get back with him. He's in a domestic, toxic relationship with the Cleveland Browns. Because they threw him a bag, he's sticking beside him. And it's kind of surprising because some of these guys, the more that you go in your position,
Starting point is 00:52:53 you start to think about your legacy, what you're leaving behind. When it's all said and done, yes, the money is a motivation, but you start to think, like, you want wins. You want a Super Bowl. You're trying to get to the mountaintop, especially if you're a really good player. So I am surprised that he stayed.
Starting point is 00:53:08 And he's talking about he wants to bring other free agents to the team and attract people. Don't nobody want to be on a Dan Browns. And it happens a lot with this position group. We see Max Crosby. We don't really get to see him deep in the postseason. No offense to that, but we don't get to see TJ White deep in the postseason because the Steelers hanging on
Starting point is 00:53:24 to the fact that they are a 500 team. But TJ White has yet to win a playoff game. We see it with Trey Henderson, who's a bright spot on a really bad defense. We see it with Michael Parsons, who's from the Cowboys, who really isn't making any noise in the playoffs. So this position group can be very frustrating as far as seeing some of the most elite players deep in the playoffs. So I hate that Miles Garrett is on the Browns, but good for him for making some money,
Starting point is 00:53:51 getting the bag, and hopefully the Browns turn it around. But, you know, and maybe if this was after the preview, like, 2023 season where they had, like, six or seven wins, but, you know, I guess he was looking for a bag and he found it. Good for him. He deserves it. Rabie is mad disrespectful calling, telling niggas that they acting like bitches taking bags. That's why I look at them.
Starting point is 00:54:14 That's a wild disrespectful... Mousin, I didn't say that. I did. I did not say that. I did not. That's not the way I put it. That's Arabia's words. But- I did, I think.
Starting point is 00:54:30 Yeah, that's why we here. Secondly, we gotta stop doing this too, man. That's why I like the show, we're not sugarcoating. I'm just being clear on who said what. Cause Mal Garry be jumping over niggas for us. Niggas see niggas, he can jump over a table, he see you from a place jumping over niggas for us. Niggas see niggas, he can jump over a table, he see the wrong place, that niggas fast.
Starting point is 00:54:48 But what we gotta, all jokes aside on the series now, what we gotta stop doing here, before I give my take on this situation, is we gotta stop saying no offense to people who deserve offense. When Arabia says no offense stat, because TJ, why they been, look, it's offense. If she wanna root for them niggas
Starting point is 00:55:06 and not be her team, that's problem. She's not even from that city. So, it's offense. No offense, yeah, it's offense. We always no offense in society and shit like that. And when you mean, when you say no offense, you really mean to be offensive. So I'm sick of it.
Starting point is 00:55:24 Like, instead of no offense, too bad for you, Stat. The Chet Niggas don't get to go nowhere in the playoffs. And you know what? This is how teams are. This is like, this reminds me of Sin with the New York Knicks when they got to the second round last year and they was feeling so, this is a rabie in the off season because she's gonna be feeling so sorry
Starting point is 00:55:44 that you don't go deep in the playoffs. And this the type of shit that we do because they ain't been doing it in years. This is all the glow in the New York Knicks fans doing the off season. This is what's gonna happen with the commanders now because they had a really, really good season. Be all the commanders fans,
Starting point is 00:56:01 they think they did something because they did. So you have to deal with this in the off season. That's what I actually wanted to say before we got to the actual topic. Lot of people say that Miles Garret's the best player in the NFL, period, no matter what the position is. So, to my personal opinion is, Ramey made great points about all the defensive backs
Starting point is 00:56:22 that she brought up, everybody. You know, Cincinnati is my team. I'm pissed off they can't get this shit together. But, the point being is, I think Miles Garret knew this. There's no way in the world Cleveland was trading him. He knew that. Who the fuck, who they gonna get for Miles Garret?
Starting point is 00:56:43 It's the top of the line. So you're not getting anybody, let me just store some more money out these niggas. Let me act like I wanna get traded. Even though I'm not saying he really did wanna get traded, but you know that's not gonna happen. It's unrealistic. So instead of getting traded, he like,
Starting point is 00:56:58 look, I'm gonna get some more money out these motherfuckers. Pardon me. And that's what he did. That's what he did. Is no, a lot of people could click, cry, scream, yell, and eventually get their way to try and get traded, whether it's football, basketball, or what have you. We just seen a few niggas ask for some trades
Starting point is 00:57:18 and they got them. Niggas say, yo, I don't wanna play it for this fee. Oh yeah, well, go get the fuck out of here, Geno Smith. Or, yeah, go touch yourself out there, go figure it out, you want more money, go figure it out. Miles Garrett, that was not gonna happen for him ever, ever. No, so I think he was smart in grabbing some more bread because he ain't going nowhere.
Starting point is 00:57:44 Okay, and then just before we close, Arabia, just want to ask you, is there anything in particular you think will happen before this window ends? I mean, there definitely are a few people who could potentially be finding landing spots. When you think about the Chargers, right, and maybe not a guy who's on headlines every year, but they are trying to boost that offense
Starting point is 00:58:07 with Justin Herbert and add a run game. So, J.K. Dobbins is still on the table. We're not sure if he's gonna stay there, if he's gonna go somewhere else. So, there are a lot more moves to be made, a lot more free agents that are looking for a home, people who are trying to get signed and re-signed. So, it is definitely not over yet.
Starting point is 00:58:24 Okay, y'all. Make sure you stay tuned. It's not over. You heard it here first, but that's all the time that we have for today, Arabia. It was a pleasure to have you. Glad you were back. Thank you for having me.
Starting point is 00:58:37 And I don't know if I saw correctly, but is Larry, Larry, are you a Cowboys fan? That's a Cubs. He be coming in with different jerseys too. He's not. Oh no, I'm a Cowboys fan. I'm a Cowboys fan? That's a Cubs. He be coming in with different jerseys too. He's not. I'm a Cowboys fan, I'm a Cowboys fan for real. I'm gonna go ahead and put it out there. I'm gonna go ahead and sit, I'm gonna do it.
Starting point is 00:58:52 I'm gonna show you proof too. I'm gonna show you proof. Just cause I thought about this other day cause I be, I don't ever say I be undercover, but my key chain is, oh no, I ain't got my keys on. Yep. No other car, no other car. You lost us. I. Come out of the car. Come out of the car. I'm a cowboy fan.
Starting point is 00:59:06 How'd you know? How'd you know? And cause this match, your Jackie, I see your Jackie got red and blue on it. When it was unzipped earlier in the show, underneath it looked real cowboy. No, no, no, no, that's a throwback. What was the boy named Gates?
Starting point is 00:59:19 Garges. No, that was Gates from the Targets. Oh, I see. Yeah, I was a better, I was a gambler back in the day. So whoever wanted me the money, I would buy their jersey, old school throwbacks. That's why I was- Yo, what is you doing, Nareva? You monitoring their shirts and all that when they open their jacket on?
Starting point is 00:59:34 What they wearing, what team it is and all that? That's kind of crazy. I see. I see. Yeah, I'm trying to talk shit. Like, my commanders made it to the title game. I'm using this window as long as I can. So you a Cowboys fan with a Chargers jersey on.
Starting point is 00:59:47 That's cute. No, no, no, no. I said I was a better. I didn't care who won. I didn't, I just, whoever wins me the money is what team I'm going with. Arabia, let me tell you something, man. Let me explain something to you trolling people
Starting point is 00:59:58 about what they're wearing at this point. Y'all, yo, listen. You, it ain't even like you're the best team in your division. All right, let's start there. You you're the best team in your division, all right? Let's start there. You're not the best team in your division, so calm down. When you're the best team in your division, we can do something about it.
Starting point is 01:00:12 You're the second best team in your division, but you're not the best team in your division. And just so you know, my Cowboys used to beat the, they used to beat the Redskins with, you know, we had Emerson Walls, Tony Dorsett. I'm gonna keep it a hundred, yeah I ain't keeping it a hundred light, I'm days is over.
Starting point is 01:00:28 You know what I'm saying? We all deal with these people right here, I had a bunch right then. And this was a head of us right then. We can't go back in the past, but I'm telling you, they gonna try and do this all year and they're not the best team in their division. They're good, but they're not the best team.
Starting point is 01:00:43 You're not the best team in your division either, or the second best. Like you talking about you a Bengals fan, y'all, what y'all on? Y'all ain't on shit with that defense. So, you're not even the second best team in your division. This is a fact, but we have a bullshit defense. But you see with our quarterback,
Starting point is 01:00:58 you see they not paying our receivers, they see not paying our best defensive line. We got the worst food in the fucking NFL in the cafeteria. You're right, we're not a good organization. But the reason that the worst food in the fucking, and it fell in the cafeteria. You're right, we're not a good organization. But the reason that I'm a Bengals fan and not a Cleveland fan is because I'm an Ohio fan. And me being an Ohio fan means that I'm a champion
Starting point is 01:01:13 and Michigan isn't. So good night. I live in Columbus, Ohio for six years. You have a good night because I'm a champion this year and you're not even in the championship. Wow. We had to cross over with collegiate, that's crazy. I mean,
Starting point is 01:01:34 I mean, if anybody in the DMV is winning right now, just let me know, because the Wizards, if you want to talk about the Wizards. We can talk about the Capitals, Go-Caps. Now I like Alex Oveska and I dig it, but they're not gonna win either. America didn't even win in the fucking All-Star game. That's okay.
Starting point is 01:01:55 All I'm gonna say is, I need to facilitate, no, I'm good on the outside. I just would love to facilitate a debate. I don't know what it's gonna be, but tit for tat, I'm here for it. So. Yeah, I would love to. We'll have to facilitate a debate. I don't know what it's gonna be, but tit for tat, I'm here for it. So. Yeah, I would love to. We'll have to facilitate that.
Starting point is 01:02:08 But again, thanks. But you might be a serious thank you for coming and you look great. I'm happy that you're better and we can't wait to have you back on the show again. Yes. Thank you for having me so much. Cool.
Starting point is 01:02:18 Thank y'all for watching. And as always, it is what it is. it is what it is.

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