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Episode Date: April 18, 2024

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I got to do the intro. Cam, tomorrow I'ma be ready welcome to it is what it is I don't know what that means that's wild boss Cam yesterday at the end of the show you had like five

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I'm doing excellent, man. I was trying to send you this signature, man, so we can have audio up, man. I mean, yeah. We waiting on you. Not to use DocuSign yet. Or you still need pen and paper. Cam, I let you get away with Paul. You got away with a lot yesterday.

And there was so many things you said i i was like i was telling stats that didn't even want to listen no more you you on a roll you on a roll it was like you popped the molly and you were sweating hey yo so do me a favor before we start the show. Yo, Nick, I like to go to a replay from five minutes ago. So the audience can see what happened right before the show. Let's go to that real quick. Players is available in more than 30 states including California, New York, the name of few. I'm your host for the day. And that's it. Y'all have some lotion? Y'all have lotion?

This is fucking Runaway Slave. Y'all have lotion? Yeah. Slave, yeah, man. Y'all have lotion? This is fucking runaway slave. Do y'all have lotion? Yeah. Do y'all have lotion? Yo, Nick, you got that? Yo, Nick, you got that on tape? He said, are you recording? Oh, that's good.

Yeah, I need that, please. Please send me that clip immediately when the show is over. Send me that clip immediately when the show is over. Send me that clip immediately, please. This too. All this. All this right here. Send me all this.

Oh, shit. bring you on a set I read that yeah we back Mason who are you back to full lotion rubbing your hands like this? You know, I need lotion. My hands were ashy. I don't know. But that's that look crazy though. We just watched it. Yeah, Nick, you're gonna be docked tremendously because of this. What are you doing? What are you doing?

What are you doing, bro? What are you doing? Who are you asking? Freeing the people from the bullshit, bro. To probably ask like that. Hey, Paul, bro, what are you doing? That was a good one. That was a good one.

That was wild. That was a good one, Paul. Wow. Nick, Nick, the bonus is out of the question. I thought we was on good terms. Just so you know, just so you know, Nick, he's been waiting for a reason to get out there giving the bonus to you. Boy, it could have been anything. It could have been anything. I can't fuck with you. I can't give you no bonus like that. You can't fuck with you.

I can't give you no bonus like that. You're sparing him today? I'm definitely getting my nose together now. Yo, it's evidence that you're just out there asking people for lotion rubbing your hands.

And then you got the lotion and sued it out it's crazy of course but hey man i dig it i dig so we're gonna start the top of the show discussing ryan garcia and devin haney so ryan garcia accuses devin haney of a hate crime after Haney shoved him while they were on the Empire State Building. He said, Devin touched me without my consent. I'm suing him for putting his hands on me. And I identify as a woman. So he touched me as a grown man and hit a grown woman. And I'm LGBTQ+.

So now it's a hate crime. So thoughts on that tweet, the video footage that we've seen and thoughts on the fight that is coming up this weekend. Nigga say everything. Yo, no disrespect. The nigga was everything. Nigga said, I'm a man, but I identify as a woman, and I'm LGBTQ. So I cover everything, nigga. I'm suing.

Yeah. This is crazy. And no disrespect, and no different reasons. I'm just saying this is wild before a fight, before he got a fight on this weekend. Rob Markman So if he identifies, let's just take the trolling into consideration. is identifying as a woman. Can he fight tomorrow? I mean, on Saturday, can he fight? If he identifies as a woman, can he fight? I mean, if Devin Haney says yeah.

If there's a rule in Vegas. If Mike Garcia says yeah. I mean, there ain't no rules against it. He can't knock a grown woman out under the boxing rules. Whose rules? This is what we're up against. Trying to talk about what's going on. This is what we're up against.

Trying to talk about what's going on. You saw that killer. I got to ask that. She's Generation Z. And in Generation Z, she said, who's rules? Oh, my goodness. This is hilarious. Cam, what do you think?

Can he fight on Saturday or not? Look, I get what you're saying. If we're going to take the trolling to the next level, if he's identifying as a woman, technically a man isn't supposed to fight a woman. Yeah. So that's what Mason's saying. But at the end of the day, he said he's a man, but he said he's a man,

but identifies as a woman. So I really don't know which one it is. More of the story is I think he take control into the next level, bro. Yeah. I seen the nigga, he was snapping his fingers, doing the dance, all type of crazy shit. Yo, listen, I think, I don't know if he gonna be ready to fight, but I know one thing, if he is, he's definitely throwing niggas off. Rob Markman, The Boyz II Men. Rob Markman, The Boyz II Men.

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My yoga? My yoga. Yeah, my yoga. Yeah. Yeah, my yoga. Yeah. This is what came to mind. If he goes out Saturday and have anywhere near a good performance, his ratings are going up.

Because he is definitely making headlines every time that he gets in front of a camera. And I think some people think it's throwing the fight off. But I think when it comes to fighting, all publicity is good. When it comes to fighting, all publicity is good. When it comes to fighting, all publicity is good. Unless you rape someone or kill someone, everything is good. So you support his style of trolling? He's trolling. I don't support his style of trolling, but they tell you to market the fight.

He's marketing. He's bringing a whole new crowd he's bringing a whole new crowd so that's good that's good marketing yeah no i'm just i was looking at your gesture i was like yo that's a mature mace that oh but he really just said as you talking to you mean what you mean Yeah, I said the same thing since that was made goes like this is what he basically said. Yeah. So I want to just it was like, I don't support that. That was fucking you talking to Like I support Like I'm with all that I support it But he's bringing a new crowd

He's bringing a new crowd to boxing If he says now He identifies as a woman And now he's He's actually You know reaching out to a new community To be a part of the boxing. And I think when it comes to boxing, DAZN or Goldenboy, they wouldn't care as long as

them seats get filled up. But will he be able to handle it when they start really approaching him on it? Everybody like to troll until trolling goes wrong and then in response to that do y'all want me to read the other tweet he said or y'all want to go to the next question yeah go ahead and read it we might as well we're here after that then he said about devin haney ryan garcia tweeted bro i thought he was going in for a kiss, no cap. Diddy got him good. Devin whispered in my ear saying,

come do me like Diddy Daddy. Pretty weird. Yeah, he's trolling. He's definitely trolling. That's what he said. He said, come what? He said, Devin whispered in my ear saying, come do me like Diddy. Daddy, pretty weird. Yeah, that's wow.

This is wow. That's probably why he pushed him when he thought. Oh, but he's saying Devin said this to him. No, he said. So Ryan Garcia basically tweeted this after Devin pushed him when they were on the building. Oh, man. This is interesting. Dev got to knock him out now.

And I'm not against I'm not against the community. I'm saying that he definitely got to knock him out now. Yeah. Because if he even gets close to winning and he did this much trolling, like I said before, his stock is going high. Because this means he can sell the fight in unconventional ways and still can come to fight. And if he loses after all of this trolling, like an early knockout, it's a wrap.

All the trolling he did. Well, I'll say y'all are better than me because I'm all for trolling, but I think it's annoying. I think like, which is crazy because I'm usually one to be like, yeah, like do this, do that. But like, I just feel like, all right, can we just get to the fight? Like, I just feel like he's doing the most and it's kind of unnecessary. But if that's his style, that's his style.

But I'm Cam, what do you think about his trolling? Whatever sort of tickets I ain't tripping on this trolling? But that was sort of tickets. I ain't tripping on this trolling like look, he's a little more like flamboyant than Hector Camacho. Camacho was like, like we ain't call it trolling back when niggas was trolling. Yeah, man, niggas trolled Muhammad Ali, the biggest troll. That's why I said different styles of trolling.

You get what I'm saying? Muhammad Ali, this is when you had to go trolling when nigga eating in a restaurant and go harassing nigga. Think about this, Murda. Roy Jones never lost, and I'm not, there's no disrespect. Like, he was invisible, and then Tarver just kept trolling the nigga until we had to fight him. Like, if he ain't trolling in real life, Roy would have curved him.

Because I kept being like, who is this nigga keep trying to fight Roy? You know what I'm saying? So it's different ways to go about it. And maybe he on the side that we don't know about. And that trolling did work. That trolling did work now. That trolling did work now. That trolling did work for Tava. Rob Markman But the nigga Bill said, because the ticket sales haven't been that great.

So they asked Bill Haney why he doesn't think the ticket sales been that great. He said, because New York full of real niggas and they know Ryan is fake. I said, like Bill Haney crazy. He said he'd been invited to a homicide. Bill knows how to march. He'd been invited to a homicide. Yeah, so. Floyd was a good troller as well. Floyd called, what's his name?

Sugar Shane, the leprechaun with his green suit he got on. I remember every time there was a 24-7. That's what made me start watching boxing really, really, because Floyd was on there and he was trolling every time. Whether he was throwing money at the camera, that was the stuff that made me watch. But that's still very different from the way that Ryan Garcia is deciding to troll. That's why I'm just like, okay. He definitely got Twitter fingers, which is like probably the new generation thing for

sure. The whole thing about it is this is like this is like this like yo we're telling you what we grew up on you tell us why he trolling like this i i don't have an explanation for this because i don't even understand like it's close which is crazy i'm usually the one who's like oh like this is what people do like this is different like i've never seen somebody troll like this and people do crazy things i would rather him like do surprise pop ups like even when he came out on the fight like on the on the horse or the goat whatever it was but all of this like he pushes you on the building and then rather than you saying something back

then you wait till you get home and go on your phone and then and then tweet that you now identify as a woman he shouldn't put his hands on a grown woman. Like you had all the opportunity to do something then. So it's just like, that's this generation though. That is definitely this generation. I don't like it. I do not like it. That's definitely this generation.

Cause nobody's letting you push them on camera like that. Right. Amen. It is what it is. Okay. So now let's discuss the play-in tournament. So the Heat lose to the Sixers 105 to 104. In general, what did you guys think of the game,

and did it go the way that you guys expected? Are you surprised? Me? Yeah. I am because we were up in the first half and so coming back um just seeing how things kind of declined quickly and how offensively we just didn't play as well yeah i'm surprised because i thought i thought things were going to pick up momentum and that's exactly what didn't happen so so you was expecting them to win? The Heat?

I did say it was going to be a tough game, but I thought that they were going to be the ones to win this game. Well, you know, games like this is not the ones you want to lose. Especially, you'd rather lose a game by double digits if you're going to lose than right there because you start thinking about all of the things you could have done differently and i mean is it is better that they lost though for real because if they was going into the playoffs without a healthy jimmy butler that wouldn't matter so i think the team that needed to move forward definitely did when when you look at um what how you say his name

but batum huh batum having 20 off the bench anytime somebody's having 20 off the bench that team should normally win i like to go with the obvious so when you got jo Embiid, 23-15, they're definitely looking strong. You got Kelly Oubre. He could have done better. But once, again, once Tyler Hero does what he does and Jimmy Butler gets hurt, it's best that Miami did lose. Because I wouldn't have wanted to see a Miami team without playoff Jimmy Butler. I'm not going to lie.

Even though I know Triple J, you're excited about Triple J, I would not want to see Miami without Jimmy Butler. I just didn't want to see Jimmy Butler get injured at all. Yeah, me neither. Me neither.

Or Duncan Robinson at this point. That's not like a this is a better outcome. It's still a terrible outcome. That's not what I wanted to see at all. But you know how, and Cam, I know you definitely understand this. When you're playing a team and you feel like we lost to a team that's going to lose the next round. Like, we didn't lose to somebody who's going to win it all. You would feel better about that. But if you lose to somebody you know the next series is getting, you know,

knocked out, you're like, man, we shouldn't have lost to them. It was only one point. You get what I'm saying, Killer? Yep, I do. Yeah, like, them niggas ain't even, they're not championship material. It ain't even, but it ain't like the heat is out. They still in it. Yeah, but I'm saying even with that game, thinking about how if Jimmy Butler is not there, they are out.

Actually, their season is over. Love that for us. I don't see them winning a series in the playoffs without Jimmy Butler. No, what I'm saying is, I agree with you, but it isn't like it's over right this very second.

It looked bad for him. The nigga finished the game, but he looked fucked up after the game. Yeah, he finished the game, but, yeah, that shit was fucked up. He limped out of there for us. But I really believe that this is probably better to me. Well, you know, Jimmy Butler's hurt, but looking at the 76ers, they look really good tonight. It was a hard-fought battle. But I believe for me, my opinion, this may be better for the Knicks.

I don't know. Miami just be having fucking New York number all the time, don't matter what place they in, what year it is. They always got these niggas number. I think the Knicks may be okay against the 76ers, man. What you think, Murda? Yeah, I definitely think that.

You know, if... Who would you rather them play if you think they gonna win the series? I think they're better off against the Sixers. I think they're better off against the Sixers. I think they would have a harder time against Miami because, again, they would have that perimeter defense that I'm talking about.

But against the Sixers, I see Jalen Brunson, if he can get 61 against, you know, he definitely going to get 50. He's getting 50 on the sixes. I'm putting that out there. So, Sin going to be excited about this. Sin, you wanted me to say something good. I'm saying it. With that performance that Stephen Curry had, I got a bump pause.

Jalen Brunson ahead of Steph Curry this year. Okay. Yeah, we're wildin'. We're saying a lot of things today. Hard making sense. That was for Sin City, yeah. Sin City, there you have it. You got to take use it now.

He'll be happy. Yeah, i don't need any of that don't yeah he does what he's gonna say don't do it out of pity i think jaylen brunson had a sensational season like i said to me he's the best guard on the east coast um and it's exciting to see because you know as much as the knicks can play nick fans that is oh we doing this and so and so is injured and and randall's injured and og is injured look y'all finished in second place so y'all whatever's going on in the lineup and who's in the game and you got to give thibodeau a lot of credit for figuring it out the chemistry is good right here no matter who's hurt or not y'all have great great chemistry with whoever's playing if it takes jalen brunson averaging 38 points that's whatever the chemistry

is because y'all are winning they got 50 wins and finished in second this is whatever's going on stop complaining about the injuries because this may not have happened if everybody's playing and shout the tits for you know figuring that out yeah i think now they can use the players that are coming back for trade bait because i like the way this New York team is playing. Actually, I really do. It reminds me of, you remember when you was on a team with a bunch of guards and really no big men and you're just pressing pause and winning games because everybody was fast. That's what this team reminds me of. And it reminds me of the early Knicks when they had Trent Tucker and and Mark Jackson and just you remember that team Roy Sparrow Gerald Wilkins just a whole bunch of niggas.

Well, what I didn't just had Gerald Wilkins man. You got the whack Wilkins. You're going to run into Gerald Wilkins. Keep it up. You're going to be running right into Gerald Wilkins. That's a fact. Niggas felt disrespected because Dominique was the real Wilkins. Niggas like, how he get Gerald?

Gerald thought he killed him when he jumped over the chair in the dunk contest. It was trash, B. Well, what I will say is Miami losing this game was probably the best thing to happen for the Celtics because our next game, because Jimmy Butler is injured, I don't see us winning, meaning that the Bulls will probably play the Celtics, which I see the Celtics beating um because if Miami would have won this game we would have played the Knicks and I think we would have had a better opportunity against the Knicks no diss at any Knicks fans that's just what I think would have happened um that that's what I

just said yeah I'm agreeing with you but oh still saying that like the Celtics because we didn't like get to that point I still feel like the Celtics have the best opportunity to win the Eastern Conference finals now because I just feel like they definitely have the upper hand compared to the other team with an injured Miami. Now I know how Cam feels. Now I know how you feel, Killer, when a nigga take your line and don't give you credit for it

and try to act like they said something really brilliant. That crazy it's called plagiarism stat you haven't been out of school that long it's called plagiarism but i know what plagiarism is you have a good grasp on the obvious do you know that you put your name before you put your name on my essay just now, on my thesis. Welcome. Welcome. Okay, so also along those lines, so the Bulls dominated the court beating the Hawks 131 to 116. How did you guys feel about that game and the Bulls' performance?

Should people be more concerned about the bulls team yeah i i knew kobe white was nice but i did i did not know he was that nice pause when he had the when he he put up 42 and he's three for seven from from three point land and this is a good team i mean on the perimeter that he's playing against. So it's not like he's playing against scrubs. But he is around 6'6 at the point guard. So this is something to look out for, especially if they get Lonzo Ball back. This is a very strong team, I think,

when it comes to how they was playing before Alonzo got hurt. And I know that was a year ago. But I think this team with just one solid big man could be a real problem in the East. And I wasn't surprised at them beating the Hawks. Yeah, look, that kid Kobe went off. I watched the game. He killed. DeMar DeRozan's been looking good the last couple weeks before the play-in even started.

This Bull team seems like they're pulling it together the last two weeks of the season because it's been a play-in uh for them for a long time and uh just injury plagued a lot you got to think about this man uh ball is not there and zach lavine's not there yeah so you gotta think think about that that's important pieces man so um where they're at congratulations to them to be honest with you i don't know what the better question is is what's gonna happen with atlanta like the murray and and ice trade ain't working out that ain't working out baby and somebody gotta go i don't think that they want to get rid of a like like trey because he

sells tickets but you're not winning games is actually declining each year since you know he he he sent the knicks home packing like two three years ago yeah and like oh he gonna be one of them and it just hasn't panned out and i don't think murray's happy there either so i would like to know what's gonna happen with that situation but congratulations to the Bulls Yeah and Murray Murray had 30 and 6 Now when I think of Trading each one of these guards

A lot of people Think that Ice Trey Would do better with the Lakers I tend to Agree with that because If you send Murray to the Lakers He's I think he'll play the same as

The combination of Of Austin Reeves And D'Lo He'll be the same type of player In that position pause because LeBron will have the ball so much I think he would do Very well if Murray of playing that position pause because LeBron will have the ball so much.

I think he would do very well if Murray went back to San Antonio, as crazy as that sounds. Right now, because they got Wembe, he probably already got a house out there, but they got to do something about this Atlanta team because it's too stale. You know, it's like you got two players play the same position. They both can get you 30 points. It's a matter of do you want a six-foot guard that's going to get you 30 points or you want a 6'4 guard that could get you 30 points. I don't think you lose anything by keeping Murray and trading Ice Trey

because I've never really seen a six-foot guard or a six-wing guard win a championship in the NBA other than Kyrie. And then what I do want to add about uh and Avery Johnson Avery Johnson what I do want to add about Kobe is that he was in the 2019 draft class so I feel like this is more of an opportunity for him to be able to like kind of put his name on the map because compared to like Zion, Ja, Tyler he was I guess kind of always overlooked so they were discussing how like this is you know that opportunity for him to really be able to reprove himself again. So, I mean, we'll see what happens with the Bulls.

And then I know I gave my prediction, but I got to ask you guys. Obviously, the Bulls will play the Heat. Who do you guys see winning that game? The Heat. Wow. Question mark. I mean, they could pull this off one time pause on the Hawks but they won't

get this off again against the Heat I think they'll be ready Pat Riley will have them ready to play and so will Sepulchre I don't know it depends to me it depends on if Jimmy Butler's playing or not or healthy or not.

Because if Jimmy Butler's not healthy, I think I may go with the Bulls the way that they looked last night. But now Jimmy Butler's playing, I'm going with the Heat. A healthy Jimmy Butler, that is. And you may have a point because DeRozan plays good against everybody but LeBron. So he doesn good against everybody but LeBron. So he doesn't have to play LeBron. He might show up again.

And then for Jimmy Butler's injury update, he did injure his knee, so he's set for an MRI. So with that being said, it is questionable. There kind of goes your answer. Not hoping for the worst, we just are unsure of what next okay we're gonna go to break and when we return we will discuss an nba player who received a lifetime ban don't go anywhere a lifetime ban pink horsepower she's happening babe baby

what's happening why you walking like that that's how that's how I walk and then like you come on breathing on me like that I fucking breathe

to live and like you used to be dark skin and now you act like hella light skin you fucking blind I'm dark skin what the fuck

and then like look at your beard. What the fuck is wrong with my beard? Your beard looks stupid. What the fuck are you talking about? No, I don't even like it. The way you breathe in, all of that. Has this ever happened to you?

Your girl seems to be mad, angry, upset. She's frustrated. There's only one way to handle that. Pink horsepower. It's only one way to handle that. Pink Horse Power. Oh, but your breath! But your breath is really refreshing! No, no, no, no, no. I'm just trying to give you a massage. Plus, have I told you how good your beard looks lately?

It looks so good. No, no, no, no, no. I'm just trying to give you a massage. Plus, have I told you how good your beard looks lately? It looks so good. No, no, no, no, no. I'm just trying to give you a massage. Plus, have I told you how good your beard looks lately?

It looks so good. No, no, no, no, no. I'm just trying to give you a massage. Plus, have I told you how good your beard looks lately? It looks so good. No, no, no, no, no. I'm just trying to give you a massage. Plus, have I told you how good your beard looks lately? It looks so good. No, no, no, no, no. I'm just trying to give you a massage. No, no, no, no, no. I'm just trying to give you a massage.

Plus, have I told you how good your beard looks lately? It looks so good. No. PHP. It works every time. Wait, where are you going? Welcome back. Now let's get into our underdog fantasy picks of the day.

On Saturday, the Cavs will play the Magic. Underdog fantasy has Donovan Mitchell at 6.5 first quarter points. Do you have him higher or lower, Mace? Donovan Mitchell, how much? 6.5 first quarter points. Lower. Okay, Cam? Lower. lower okay cam lower okay darius garland is at nine and a half rebounds and assist you have them higher or lower cam higher higher okay and mace your boy paulo banqueiro is at 21.5 points. Do you have him higher or lower?

Higher. Lower. Okay. Download the Underdog Fantasy app and you can make your picks too. So it was revealed that Jonte Porter has received a lifetime ban for violating the league's gaming rules. They alleged he bet on games, passed on information to gamblers, and claimed illness to influence a wager. So what do you think about him being banned?

And not even just being banned, being caught. If you're going to ban him forever, right? Yeah. Like if you're thinking about banning somebody forever what what did he do just bet on the game yeah but he was like okay like say you know he had to score a certain amount of points like make sure like that's like oh he went crazy he went crazy all right yeah i didn't hear everything you said first. I think the league, if you're going to ban somebody for betting,

I just don't think they should have banned them forever. There's been people that have done a lot of things in the league. There's been major allegations against a lot of people, and they seem to be very tolerant and high-tolerant towards certain things. So I don't know why they would do that with betting when even the sport is starting to open up to betting. You got major networks now talking about sports with with betting present and i know it's going to be a problem to people if they get out of control but i don't think it should have merited a lifetime ban i could see them banning them i could see them banning them for some years

but not a lifetime ban but realistically how long was this career going to be anyway? No, I'm saying, because now I'm thinking it over in my head with a mic in front of me. But when you say lifetime, man. That's crazy. That's crazy. That's crazy. Yo, that's wild. Yeah.

Today has been so like kim i've been spamming you the whole last two days you were on the run that sounds crazy you want to run paul that sounds crazy you were on the run you was on the run kim you was on a roll you just grabbed it you know i'm thinking it over with a mic in my face and grab the mic i did not grab the mic i'm looking at you my you start thinking it over with a mic in my face now i grabbed the mic I grabbed the mic. I said, wow, bro. That's crazy, bro.

That's on you, though, man. I tried to ignore this shit, my nigga. I tried to ignore this shit, man. What's the question stat so I can say what I had to say? This nigga murdered. It's crazy. What was the question stat so I can say what I had to say? This nigga murder is crazy. What was the exact question? Yeah, so basically, John Tate Porter, you know,

has a lifetime ban from the league. Yo, murder. Yeah, my bad. Yo, the nigga. No, I smoke my morning blunt. Yo, listen. The nigga. The nigga.

This is the teacher lesson joint. This little like, yo, you don't kill in this town. Yeah, you know in certain cities, you know in certain cities where you go. Virginia, yeah, you don't kill in this town. Yeah, yeah, you don't do that here. We gonna make sure you know that. We gonna's what you're not gonna do here. We gonna make sure you understand from the jump. And like you said, no disrespect to homie,

I feel bad about it, but you wasn't a superstar. If you was a superstar, they would've figured something out. Like Mase said, it would've been a few years, but it would've been a few years. This was like, yo, can we spare not having this in the league yeah you know how much the average i don't know like i don't know how much he average but whatever it was he wasn't important enough to keep around and he was just not important enough that um pardon me not to keep around to make an example of say yeah matter of fact let's not just

do that let's make a whole example so know not to play you got to get better because if it was certain that would have they would they wouldn't have did it you know what i'm saying certain says zion they're gonna give zion 18 months yeah what what cam is saying basically is that your character doesn't matter if you're a good enough basketball player it's true they'll figure it out true they'll figure it out they'll figure out that's what i'm saying man what do you think about that just not important enough um i just think the whole thing is crazy like because when you hear lifetime ban right automatically that just sounds like a lot it just sounds like that's really severe like we ain't got to do all that like but when you hear lifetime ban, right, automatically that just sounds like a lot. It just sounds like that's really severe.

We ain't got to do all that. But when you really look at the fine details. How old was he? 24. Yeah, so that is like 16 years in basketball. Yeah. Still, no, because like the, okay, so let me read more details, right? He wouldn't play past 40 years old.

But still like gambling the amount that they were like, so for example, I want to read more so people are up to speed on the, because it's kind of crazy the more you read into it. So this is just one of the cases. There's another individual original receipt. He had an $80,000 parlay bet bet to win 1.1 million dollars basically saying that he would underperform against the kings to make sure that the bet would hit he pulled himself out of the king's game after three minutes claiming that he was ill oh yeah they had to do something

like 1.1 million yeah now that i'm hearing it crazy they had to do something about this because if that's the case more players may say you know what my hip i got that seven points i got three assists my hip and they and they just meeting their parlay and they can make two million dollars a night that's more than a game and then because of that the NBA will not be able to control the betting because there's people swaying the bet so I can see it now it's messing up a lot of money and it's messing up the game yeah so especially because like so he was a two-way player we know how those contracts are obviously significantly lower than you know just players on the team but to make 1.1 million in one night and it hits and nobody knows, you're going to keep going. And then go back to the Suffolk County Cougars

playing for the G League. You need that 1.2. You can't afford to not take the 1.2. Yeah, it's the situation is like, I feel bad when you hear it, but that's a lot. Yo, bro, I don't feel bad because niggas are stupid. Yo,

how you get caught? Like, yo, my nigga. Like, that's my old shit. Like, yo, how you get caught, nigga? Alright, cool, you trying to bust some moves, get some extra paper, cool. You get caught, then you're doing you, like get some extra paper cool you get caught then you doing you the like i already knew the information that stats talking about you put up that much bread on the parlay yo come on bro you you the you doing is stupid what was this you're going

to get caught you're bugger what was the chinese guy name what was the asian guy name in baseball What was the Chinese guy name? What was the Asian guy name in baseball? That was betting. Oh, Tony. Yeah. You gotta have a sidekick. Well, well, technically he wasn't betting, but yeah, he was technically. Yeah. But technically, he wasn't. Yeah, he wasn't. It's just in the air.

What makes you saying this, what makes you saying this, this nigga riding with a gun in the car with nobody. Ohtani man was in the passenger and said, give me that. That's mine, my nigga. Don't worry about it. You got to go play. I'm going to take this. He riding solo.

Just get, yo, bro, what's wrong with you? To be honest, I don't really feel bad. Because, I don't know. That's why I be asking Stat, what the fuck really be going on? Nobody talking to these niggas? Tell these niggas, yo, who is talking to these niggas? Me? So nobody's telling you you might be bugging?

Maybe. They're like, yo, I i don't know that may not be a good idea my nigga everybody right around you is like word nah that's it right there that's it nobody yo bro you bugging niggas is dumb b i'm more mad niggas be getting caught that's the thing though like sadly people people don't care like we hear a lot of news stories all the time y'all be like how are they not thinking like why did they do that it's because the people in their corner especially like younger generation like people aren't telling us to do the right thing that's not being told well they better start telling y'all that telling y'all that.

That's the advice? Who's they? Yeah, the OGs got to start talking more and they got to start telling people the real truth. That's why I try to tell the truth because people need it, you know? Young people, they don't know. At least we did have niggas who tried to tell us. We didn't listen, but at least they tried to tell us.

I don't think this generation people are real. Because the people that are older are trying to be the young niggas. So there's really nobody telling you because they're competing with you. That's a good point. That was a word. Yeah. But when somebody's not competing with you, they can tell you because they're not trying to get your spot.

How do we fix that? That can't be fixed. It can. You ready to cook? No. What they used to call them estates, man. The older people got to take a more, they got to take a different role, but everybody's not ready to take that role yet. Well, that leaves us with not a lot of help.

There's a few of us out here, you know, camera tell somebody what they need to hear. I definitely would tell somebody what they need to hear. I definitely would tell somebody what they need to hear. The problem is when I tell niggas what they need to hear, I think my cadence and my voice is deep. So they take it as being disrespectful or talking to them crazy. And I'm not. I'm just telling you, cold, cold, clean. I'm not saying that play.

No, you got a problem. Do you want to fix it? I'm talking to you crazy. They don't know. You know, niggas are sensitive. Yeah, what Cam basically is trying to say. You notice how each time each one of us talk, we have to give the other one have to give a disclaimer because sometimes I'm too straightforward and sometimes Cam is real passionate about what he's saying.

So we can both be misunderstood. So I could definitely see that. I have to say Mase really doesn't mean nothing by that. Cuz I don't I'm actually just saying what I thought needed to be said. But I could see how the delivery is just like, dang. Don't take that well. They want the truth, you know? Yeah.

Ooh, well. Yeah, my God. That's just how I talk, man. I ain't got time to be nice and put, like, for me, totally, honestly, dead seriously, for me, there's really no in between. I mean, but dumb nights, I just gotta tell you what I need to tell you. Yeah.

It's like certain words don't exist to New York people. Like compassionate. It's certain words that just, they don't come with New York. We was on the phone the other day. The nigga, the nigga, the nigga sense that makes you cruel man nigga may set the cruelest. And I respected it. I understood. And there's really not a lot of compassion. He's right.

And then speaking of John T. Porter. But that's really probably only with New York people, though. Because we understand that. Like, we don't expect compassion from each other. Interesting. He's shaking his head too. I'm like, what? Now for you, we'll have compassion,

but he doesn't expect that from me. He's not expecting that. I mean, being from Florida, everything is very like, so chai. Yes. Let's go. And you're like, okay.

Yeah, you better get up you're not that hurt get up yeah I will never forget when that woman fell in the

in the window and you guys were like but she's strong like you know just that was scary that was scary

that was like and this is how people need to be I was like what she high yeah That was like, this is how people need to be. That's crazy. What? She high. Yeah.

I didn't say that. That's crazy. Basically, she's big. That's what I heard. She'll be fine. That generation's got it. And yo, none of y'all, none of us got up to go help. Y'all just all look.

It was eight people in the studio. Yeah, nobody moved. Nick didn't move either. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding.

I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm just kidding. I'm out. Y'all just look. It was eight people in the studio. Nobody moved. Nick didn't move either. Nick didn't move. Oh, Nick went, oh. All niggas did was put the camera on her. That's even better.

Niggas shifted the camera on her. That's how they do it in Queens. He's from Queens. Lisa in Harlem, we're going to wait to see if you're hurt. Then you're not hurt. Then we get to laugh if you're not hurt. Okay. The more you know.

The more you know. And then regarding Jontae Porter, he's the first active player or coach to be expelled from the NBA since 1954. So he made history, but not in a great way. Okay. So Rudy Gobert reveals that his family on his mother's side did not want him around because of his skin color.

Grandma had said, we don't want that baby in our house. Thoughts on the story that he shared? That baby what? Him, like that baby. Like that baby. Because he was the black baby. Wow. I thought he had the complexion for the protection.

Nope. Not in France. Well, that's not true for people in France. Got to clarify that. Yes. In that household. Wow. His grandmother said that?

What do you do if your grandparents are racist? Or I'm learning that people say they're not racist, they say they just have a preference. You think that's true? Cam, do you think that's true? Before we dive, pause deeper into this conversation? My grandfather, I didn't grow up with my blood grandfather. My grandfather that you met mace was just married to my grandmother before i was born but my blood grandfather didn't

with my father because he said he was too dark wow yeah but is it possible that people just have people that they prefer like i, I prefer these type of people. It's not racist. It's just a preference. Is that possible? Like, you have people you prefer? I mean, you can definitely have a preference, but in this context, that's not a preference.

That's blood. That's family. And if you don't want somebody around because of the color of their skin, that's crazy. Do you have family members you prefer? Prefer over others? Yeah. I have family members that I'm closer with than others,

but that doesn't mean that I prefer them more than others. But you didn't answer the question. I didn't answer the question. Do you have family? You can't say it on TV. I know Cam have family members he prefer. Why do you say that? TV. I know Kim have family members he prefer. I'm agreeing with that on this for a minute man before we move on to preference. I think because you know, no, because you have to think about this. You got to think

about this murder. Yeah, I'm talking about from from my family point of view yo you don't fuck with your son because he's too dark but you have if you're light-skinned you had to have sex with a dark-skinned woman so did you prefer that good question now now we're really getting somewhere maybe maybe that was a mistake that night. We don't know. I'm not saying that he was, but it could have been something that... Rob Markman No, no, no. But that's how I even look at it with my grandparents. It's like, yo, you know how it is, nigga. Like, yo, I don't mean to be rude with my family like that or nothing, but it is what it is. But at the end of the day, whether it was a one night stand slip up or whatever, like Stats said, it's still blood.

But nigga was like, nah, I'm good. I'm straight. So I understand the story of Rudy Gobert. At the end of the day, look, if they didn't fuck with you, they didn't fuck with you. But like, don't start being like 34 and start having back flashes and like yo you ain't just winning a chip this ain't time for that story that's so you gotta come with the documentary and all that yeah that story supposed to come with the doc and all that this ain't the time and said yeah we ain't winning. You don't bust out with that to try to pull a tear-jerker force.

Nah, bro. You ain't win nothing yet, bro. Say that. See, this is the non-compassion I'm talking about. Nigga, you ain't win yet, nigga. Nigga, he's broke and far. He's like, my family don't want me in camp. You didn't win yet, nigga.

Same back. That ass though, B. Why you pull that? Well, yo, bro, it's just y'all niggas came in third, my niggas. Yo, get ready for the playoffs, nigga. What the fuck are you talking about? Well, talk about compassion hold on hold on rudy gobert was out here spreading the kobe rudy go best running coven the league wiping microphones doing all type of was in the league. Rudy Rudy Rudy was first. Rudy bought COVID to the NBA pause. You know, allegedly any of any of no compassion

and they can start wiping microphones and all that. Come on, my name. Wait till the doc. Well, that's that. No, it's OK. I just wanted to get more context because I guess this was supposed to be a bit of a tearjerker because he basically, because of all the sacrifices his mom made, because after those comments were made, you know, she did kind of keep him away from family and just

made to take care of him. He was talking about how he recalled the moment he saw his name in an NBA mock draft and it represented a source of validation. He took pride in seeing his family's name plastered in other places, and he wanted to serve as an example for younger players and fans to show it's okay to be emotional and be your authentic self, which is why he gets emotional in a lot of different cases. But the stems, he is the way he is because of his story.

So I don't know if that changes you guys' opinion at all or what you say still stands, but this is just part of who he is. Nah, nah, nah, nah. Now I'm starting to think like Killer. He trying to turn the story. He trying to take the real MVP from KD, mom. That's what I'm hearing. Trying to make a new MVP.

We ain't going with that. You got to do that from where France saw you. You can't going with that. You got to do that from France. You can't do that here. Me saw KD go shoot a real MVP. He said, oh, I'm going to take a page out of that book.

No, you're not not not on my watch you're not gonna take that page right now wait to the dock like it was said wait to the dock yeah man that's how i felt about it i don't change my opinion if you actually meet that no it doesn't change my opinion because i mean don't get me wrong somebody asked him the question cool i dig it but you could just say i'll tell you more later like fam the safe i just told you about just, only even bringing that story up because we talked about this. That's in the doc. When my doc came out.

That ain't for now. Yeah, that ain't for now. That's in the doc, nigga. Story ain't told yet. Yo, fam, fam, I could have, yo, check it, listen, nigga. I could have been like, me and Murda got back together. I could have hit nigg hit the next two days like and and my and then they didn't want me neither it was you know it isn't just about me and murder

getting back together it's about how my family didn't want me and and my grandfather didn't claim We can do these stories every week. Rob Markman Yeah, these are stories. We got a whole series. Rob Markman Exactly. Rob Markman You know what I'm hearing though, for real though, I think it's time for people to really understand they don't prefer you. I think that's a powerful realization. Instead of looking at it one way, a new way to look at it is they don't prefer you. And if you look at it that way, it'll bring the power back to you because you just recognize

that it's not really nothing wrong with you. It's just you're not what they prefer. But there is somebody that prefer you. This is just not the person that prefer you. So are you saying that in general or in context of the conversation? Family, relationship, business, industry, culture. You're not what they prefer. Sometimes people do a great job and they get nothing from it. And then somebody does lackluster performance and they go crazy and people try to figure that out.

When they don't realize, really, this is just a group that doesn't prefer you. You're going to find somebody that prefers you, but this is not it. And that's what it was for Rudy Gobert. They didn't prefer you. You're going to find somebody that prefer you, but this is not it. And that's what it was for Rudy Gobert. They didn't prefer him, even though it's in a family. I know it doesn't make sense right now, but just... It makes no sense to me right now. Just remember I told you it. Because when you're there and somebody's like,

you know what? Now I'm cool. And you're like, but I'm stat, baby. Just know they didn't prefer you. No, okay, face, face, face, face, face. Because when you say statements like that, certain things need clarification. We're talking about a young Rudy Gobert who grew up in France

and his family. It's not a, oh, I just, I don't prefer you, Rudy, because, you know, like on this league, we want a shorter player. Like that's his family saying, we don't prefer you because you're black. Like that's a very different context from just not being preferred by a group of people or not being preferred because, you know, I'm not relationships. I'm not attracted to you. Or I think you're this, or I think you're that.

That's very different from a family member not wanting you in the household because the color of your skin is black. Mind you, he's light-skinned. I hear your plight. I really do hear your plight. But what I'm trying to give you is the keys. I'm trying to give you the keys keys. I'm trying to give you the keys. Hit me out.

Hit me out. Hit me out. Let me land. That's how the young folks there. Okay. Let me land. Let him cook. Yeah.

Let me cook. What I'm actually trying to do is give you the keys so you can make it where you need to go. Cause in family sometime, I know that seems strange because it's rudy gobert but i just asked cam this and i asked you this and you couldn't answer it because the truth is even in family there's people that prefer other people and don't prefer you it's not something we could talk about but that that's why it's so, so revealing when

he says it, but there's people every day that's not preferred in their family. Yeah. I'm going to give you an example. I'll give you, I'll give you an example of what makes it say it's that, and just so you understand it. So it doesn't seem so careless and it's coming off a little bit callous, but I understand what Mase is saying 100%, a million percent. See, you come from a great household, so I'm gonna give you an element.

If you're a grandmother, or let's just use a grandmother, your son has a baby with this one woman mm-hmm this cool then your son has a baby with another woman not even racing on same race they both black the grandmother may not fuck with the second mother like that so she's not accepting this baby like that I'm fucking with the first baby mother even though if you may not whether and that's my real grandbaby so now exactly this baby can't come to the house because i'll fuck with this baby don't that's like another scenario i went through that's what i'm saying is because you know grandmother may not fuck with the girl that you fucking with and already got it you

already got another kid with another girl that she do fuck with. So the kids suffers from that. Yeah. If that makes sense. That's exactly what I'm saying. And normally the child that's not preferred is the one that becomes the most successful. Oftentimes. So that's why I was saying and it happens a lot in families.

I just wanted you to have more clarification because I could see somebody hearing that. Right. Based off of the line that I just said. And we know how social media works. Yeah. Like Mace said that Rudy Gobert's grandmother not preferring him is like, you know what I'm saying? Like, I just like to ask follow up questions. No, I said her not preferring him, if he internalize it, it's going to mess the rest of his life up. He can understand that she didn't prefer me and I can use that as energy and tools to go and be something great. And now, because she'll come back around.

Because when somebody is not preferring you, it's because of something that's normally missing in themselves. Now, when he has success, I can almost guarantee that she's reached out. You don't feel like she's reached out yet? No, I said I can almost guarantee that she has. Oh, okay. Because what's missing in she's reached out yet? No, I said I almost guaranteed that she has. Oh, okay. Because what's missing in the person I'm preferring you a lot of times is in them. It has nothing to do with you.

So that's why I was trying to give you the keys to live around it and go around it because it doesn't have nothing to do with you when a person preferred this. Like a woman that prefers a guy with money and have all this money because she never had money it has something to do with her it doesn't it's not really based on that stat that's why they got me here that's why they pay me the big bucks that the big bucks well let us know what you guys think about the rudy gobert situation but that's all the time that we have for today. Thanks for watching. And as always,

it is time to... Hold on, hold on, hold on. Go ahead, kill him. Hold on. Yo, what do you think, real quick, Murda, that Zion's not playing? He's out with a hamstring. Nah.

I don't think, actually, they're going to be able to win without Zion. Trying to win without Zion is almost like Miami trying to win without Jimmy Butler is I can almost guarantee they're not going to see that win and Sacramento will be hitting the lights. I guarantee you they'll be hitting the lights. Yeah. Yeah.

Tracy Lee. So Sacramento going to beat you? You saying Sacramento's going to beat a Zion-less Pelican? Yeah, if they don't got Zion, they're not winning. I just wanted to ask you that real quick because he's out. That's fucked up, man. Had a really good game last game. I'm sad about that. Oh, yeah, they're going to be able to.

What's that thing? They're going to be able to hit the lights in Sacramento. They got to go to New Orleans, but if they win, they'll have some home games. That's how I feel about it. I'm good. I just wanted to ask something.

But, okay, cool. That's all the time that we have for today. Thanks for watching, and as always, it is what it is.